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Speaker 5: Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Terrence Bates in for

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Speaker 5: Steve Gruber. It is Monday, August twenty fifth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Let's get right into today's top stories. Alleged MS thirteen

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Speaker 5: gang member human trafficker Kilmar Abrego Garcia is back in

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Speaker 5: Find out where Ice picked him up and the big

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Speaker 5: Uganda or Costa Rica. We'll explain. Plus, President Trump is

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Speaker 5: calling for resignations at the Federal Reserve. It's not just

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Speaker 5: Chairman Jerome Powell, who he wants to see off the job.

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Speaker 5: We've got that story ahead, and then later Gallaine Maxwell's

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Speaker 5: interview with Deputy US Attorney General Todd Blanche the Department

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Speaker 5: that sit down. The big question is there anything new

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Speaker 5: find out. But we start things off in the nation's capital,

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Speaker 5: which has been a haven for crime and blight for decades. Now,

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Speaker 5: President Trump is cracking down with the goal of making

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Speaker 5: the city a beacon of safety. Under his leadership, the

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Speaker 5: Commander in Chief's federalization of the DC Police Department and

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Speaker 5: deployment of the National Guard seems to be working. The

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Speaker 5: proof is in the numbers, with zero homicides just in

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Speaker 5: the last seven days.

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Speaker 7: When the National Guard rolled into Washington last week, the

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Speaker 2: The crime is minimal here.

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Speaker 1: There's not really a lot of crime.

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Speaker 8: Here's lived at the window dress up to me.

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Speaker 7: But with the Guard on the ground, crime is on

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Speaker 7: Carjackings are down eighty three percent robberies are down forty

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Speaker 9: When you have these kind of numbers going down, it

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Speaker 7: Like many big cities, Washington's police department is critically short staff.

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Speaker 9: People who don't feel safe aren't free.

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Speaker 7: Sergeant Betsy Smith with the National Police Association says it

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Speaker 9: More police generally equals less crime.

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Speaker 5: In the wake of President Trump's crackdown on crime, the

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Speaker 2: On illegal immigration.

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Speaker 5: That operation was initially announced last month and is not

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Speaker 5: for the conversation. Gentlemen, thanks so much for being here

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Speaker 1: Our pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to absolutely Steve. I want to start with you.

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Speaker 5: I want to kind of tap into your law enforcement expertise.

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Speaker 5: What do you make of the deployment of National.

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Speaker 5: President Trump has talked about the potential of moving troops

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Speaker 10: Since I'm only fifteen miles west of New York City

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Speaker 5: Doctor Carson, do you see benefits in having National guardsmen

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Speaker 8: Well, clearly we have a problem. You know, I was

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Speaker 8: I lived and worked in Baltimore for thirty six years

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Speaker 5: Doctor Carson, I'd like to take this a step further

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Speaker 5: and tap into your housing experience as a former head

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Speaker 2: And that kind of thing.

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Speaker 5: Once the streets are safe, then does it encourage groups

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Speaker 8: For all without question. If you have an environment that

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Speaker 8: And these are things that affect ordinary, everyday people. It

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Speaker 8: what we're seeing in this issue and in just about

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Speaker 8: for root causes. We've got to understand that the destruction

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Speaker 2: Lieutenant Rogers.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, President Trump's crackdown in Washington DC is working at

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Speaker 5: the moment. The numbers really speak for themselves. But DC

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Speaker 5: is going down the slippery slope. The reality is there

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Speaker 5: could be another administration that now would use some of

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Speaker 5: these powers and not necessarily for good.

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Speaker 10: That's a good point. So it's our objective moving forward

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Speaker 10: particularly the Democrat Party. And I don't like to make

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Speaker 10: things partisan, you know me, but this has become a

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Speaker 10: partisan political battle of an ideology run by the Democrat

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Speaker 10: Party that wants to hinder the ability of the police

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Speaker 10: the people. Those policies against the policies that the Republican

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Speaker 10: and make America safe again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a.

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Speaker 10: Slippery slope, but we could prevent that from happening by

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Speaker 10: making sure we elect people to office who believe in

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Speaker 10: the people. America first, America, streets first, Americans should be

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Speaker 10: the first that we're looking to keep safe, not the

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Speaker 2: You know, Zoways, Listen to you, Lieutenant Rodgers.

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Speaker 5: In our mind, the reality is that President Trump may

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Speaker 5: be creating a blueprint for keeping communities safe, for keeping

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Speaker 10: Well, he certainly is, and and he's going back to

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Speaker 10: some of the things that we did as cops years ago.

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Speaker 10: He's talking about rebuilding these cities and these towns economically.

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Speaker 10: And doctor Carson could I couldn't have put it in

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Speaker 10: Make sure the police of the community come together, work

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Speaker 1: Good blueprint he's putting together.

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Speaker 5: Doctor Carson, I did hear you loud and clear? Belising

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Speaker 5: is fine, but we have to come to the root

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Speaker 5: causes crime. What are some of the root causes you see,

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Speaker 8: Well, we see a lot of fatherlessness, young boys growing up,

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Speaker 8: doesn't work out. Well. We need to go back to

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Speaker 8: the fundamentals of where do people get their values? And

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Speaker 8: have policies that are family friendly in developing networks, and

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Speaker 8: we need to encourage men to be big brothers and

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Speaker 8: situations where they are no fathers in the home. This

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Speaker 8: is not to say that women can't be authorities too.

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Speaker 8: My mother certainly was one. But for the most part,

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Speaker 8: if you have formed strong, cohesive family, you're going to

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Speaker 8: do much better. Many studies show that this is well

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Speaker 5: Lieutenant Rogers, I'd like you to chime in on addressing

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Speaker 5: the root causes because I think there is a great

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Speaker 5: point to be made there. Yes, policing sends to be

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Speaker 5: proactive and get ahead of it before the crime even happens.

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Speaker 10: Well, I'm glad you asked me the question because, to

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Speaker 10: for the very reason why doctor Carson has explained there's

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Speaker 10: to be very friendly with a cop. The cop adopts

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Speaker 10: Yes, it's reactive now because it has to be. Crime's

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Speaker 10: You're going to see criminals are conditioned to believe that

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Speaker 5: this time potentially to Uganda. You may remember Brego Garcia

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Speaker 2: Bruce, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, Terry, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's a pleasure. So let's start here.

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Speaker 5: It seems to me that this kil Maar Brego Garcia

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, e all the above, brother Terrence. And this is

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Speaker 6: And like they said, and you saw General Pambondi in

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Speaker 6: So it's like my grandmother say, Teres, everybody can't be lying.

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Speaker 6: So it'd be interesting to see where this goes. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: to your point, this is definitely sending a message out

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Speaker 5: And I would argue that that messages mess around and

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Speaker 2: I'll just keep it there.

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Speaker 5: One of the things that I find interesting, and it

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Speaker 5: Take your pick.

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Speaker 6: Hey, listen, And this is and by the way, he's

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Speaker 6: The Trump administrations once again is putting out a very

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Speaker 6: and that's some of these folks are don't believe it,

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Speaker 6: And yes, they're being apprehended and caught and brought to justice.

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Speaker 6: So I just hope this just sets a pattern. But

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Speaker 6: real quick also, Terrence, also that all these great initiatives

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Speaker 5: Bruce, when you say this particular style, are you talking

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I listen. I served on the police board.

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Speaker 6: But listen, when they all take the oath, you know,

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Speaker 6: He said, there's thirty seven thousand FBI agents, A lot

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Speaker 6: spread them out and go be cops, you know. And

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Speaker 6: that's what policing really is. It's not really going out there,

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Speaker 2: Terence, let me play a little devil's advocate.

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Speaker 5: Then, shouldn't our local police departments just be doing a

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Speaker 1: And where that comes from, Terrence is the people.

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Speaker 6: And like I said, I've served on a really big

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Speaker 6: When the defund spirit and all the other things the

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think it's safe to say that President Trump

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Speaker 5: President Trump recently gave Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook an

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Speaker 2: We'll explain next.

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Speaker 5: Sunday, Tampa, Florida. Good afternoon, and good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: To you as well.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate you being here with us for America's Voice Live.

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Speaker 5: President Trump is threatening to fire Federal Reserve Governor Lisa

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Speaker 5: Richard Stern, the director of the Center for the Federal

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Speaker 5: good to see you.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you too.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: So let me just start here.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to start with the most egregious and then

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Speaker 12: Well, it certainly does, But I'd say for a less

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Speaker 12: money supply, and the truth is it doesn't need to

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Speaker 12: be managed by the government at all. We just take

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Speaker 12: it as granted that government should manage every inch of

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Speaker 12: the money supply. The truth is, even the constitution allows

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Speaker 12: for other money is to compete with a government run money.

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Speaker 3: And so you know, in my mind, this is just one.

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Speaker 12: Small issue in the greater scheme, but it certainly highlights

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Speaker 12: that such a small panel of people have so much

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Speaker 12: outsized control over every inch of the economy and every

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Speaker 12: minute of our lives.

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Speaker 5: So you somewhat answered my question, but I just want

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Speaker 5: to make sure I fully understand you. Then you would

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Speaker 5: you seem to be on board with the idea of

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Speaker 5: dissolving the FED.

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Speaker 12: Oh, I've been on board with that for a very

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Speaker 12: long time. But yes, I look, it's not the worst

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Speaker 12: way that we could manage the money supply. But I

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Speaker 12: prefer private currencies, I prefer local things. I prefer a

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Speaker 12: more complicated and competitive market. I don't like the federal

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Speaker 12: government having a monopoly in almost anything.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's an argument to be made that the

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Speaker 5: FED is nonpartisan, that it's a central bank, unaffiliated that

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Speaker 5: I think there are a lot of people who really

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Speaker 5: look at what's happened who would argue, and probably rightfully so,

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Speaker 5: that it is to some degree partisan and political.

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Speaker 12: Look, I think all human beings are biased as much

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Speaker 12: as you want to not be, and that's politics as

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Speaker 12: well as other things. Look, I'll tell you I think

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Speaker 12: probably the vast majority of the Fed's decisions have been nonpartisan.

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Speaker 12: There's certainly been things that have been suspicious, as you

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Speaker 12: pointed out, but you know, I'd say beyond that, it

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Speaker 12: really gets to the question of do you really think

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Speaker 12: that a dozen or so people or less in some cases,

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Speaker 12: should should make the decisions in such an integral thing

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Speaker 12: for three hundred and forty million Americans.

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Speaker 1: That's really the question to me.

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Speaker 12: I don't care how impartial you are or nonpartisan you are.

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Speaker 12: It's about central planning versus giving people control over their

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Speaker 12: livelihoods in the market, and that's what it always comes

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Speaker 12: down to.

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Speaker 5: As for Jerome pal, he of course has been fairly

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Speaker 5: reticent to drop the interest rates to lower interest rates.

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Speaker 5: He's saying that he may do so at the next meeting.

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Speaker 5: How do you assess his behavior as it relates to

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Speaker 5: interest rates? Is he literally as President Trump calls him

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Speaker 5: too late.

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Speaker 12: Well, it's a little hard to figure out exactly what

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Speaker 12: he is looking at. I mean, be told, he and

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Speaker 12: the FED cut rates by half a point right before

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Speaker 12: the election, which obviously I think for good reason. There's

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Speaker 12: been a lot of political scrutiny over. But you know,

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Speaker 12: beyond there, what I would tell you is we're in

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Speaker 12: a weird area in terms of FED policy because the

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Speaker 12: federal government is running a two trillion dollar deficit per year,

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Speaker 12: and that creates an enormous burden on Americans. It means

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Speaker 12: that you have to face some combination of higher prices,

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Speaker 12: inflation and higher interest rates, which is why mortgages are

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Speaker 12: still around six and a half percent, why the prime

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Speaker 12: lending rate is seven and a half. That's what business

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Speaker 12: owners see when they want to hire people and expand

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Speaker 12: their operations. And the truth is the FED can choose

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Speaker 12: which of those two burdens you feel, but it can't undo,

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Speaker 12: it can't wish away with a magic wand the burden

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Speaker 12: created by reculus overspending from government. And that's honestly why

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Speaker 12: the Fed's decision making is so hard to pin down

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Speaker 12: these days.

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Speaker 5: Is your expectation, though, that the FED will in fact

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Speaker 5: lower interest rates next month or at its next meeting,

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Speaker 5: And I guess caveat to that. Is it because of

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Speaker 5: pressure from President Trump? Or is it because it's about

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Speaker 5: that time.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think they are going to cut rates, and

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Speaker 12: of course the betting markets are solidly in favor. That

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Speaker 12: have become a huge fan of using the betting markets

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Speaker 12: as a proxy for checking your predictions on things.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think there might be a little bit.

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Speaker 12: Of pressure from Trump, but keep in mind, you know

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Speaker 12: there were two governors who dissented and voted the cup

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Speaker 12: rates at the last meeting. There's an enormous amount of

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Speaker 12: pressure from the business community.

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Speaker 2: But really it's.

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Speaker 12: Because, as you point out, it's a little bit of

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Speaker 12: that time. When you look at the data, it would

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Speaker 12: imply that.

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Speaker 1: We could cut rates.

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Speaker 12: That being said, though, very important about this. You know,

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Speaker 12: the Fed cup rates a full percentage point over the

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Speaker 12: last year, and mortgage rates actually went up.

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Speaker 3: Just because the Fed changes.

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Speaker 12: Their target, the economy doesn't have to respond to it.

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Speaker 12: So just because he might cut rates doesn't mean it

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Speaker 12: solves the problem.

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Speaker 2: Keep that in mind.

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Speaker 5: That's a great point, Richard Stern. We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 5: What a great point. It's true just because your cut

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Speaker 5: rates doesn't mean the economy is necessarily going to respond.

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Speaker 2: Such a good point. Thanks so much for being here

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Speaker 2: with us.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's a pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me on always.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Coming up after the break, I'm going to be discussing

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Speaker 5: the Department of Justices release of the audio and transcript

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Speaker 5: for Giselle Gallaine Maxwell's interview. We'll have more on that

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Speaker 5: after the break. Welcome back to America's Voice Live. We

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Speaker 5: appreciate you being here with us. The Department of Justices

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Speaker 5: out with the tapes in transcript with Jeffrey Epstein's accomplished

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Speaker 5: Glaine Maxwell. The interview was conducted back in July. Investigative

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Speaker 5: team continues trying to get to the bottom of the

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Speaker 5: case surrounding convicted human trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and who may

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Speaker 5: have broken the law by also victimizing underage girls link

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Speaker 5: to Epstein. Deputy US Attorney General Todd Blanch conducted the

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Speaker 5: interview in this particular case. The questions included whether Epstein

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Speaker 5: kept the client list. Blanche also asked for names of

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Speaker 5: people involved with the CD affairs. However, Maxwell claims that

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Speaker 5: she is unaware of any such list. Justice Department reporter

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Speaker 5: for The Washington Examiner, Kaylin Deese joins me now with

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Speaker 5: more on the Gallaine Maxwell interview.

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Speaker 2: Kaylen, good to see you.

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Speaker 13: It's great to be here, Terrence. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 5: All right, so let's just set expectations. How much can

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Speaker 5: we trust Gallaine Maxwell?

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Speaker 13: Well, I think anyone who is listening to nine hours

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Speaker 13: of content from an interview with Glenn Maxwell should think

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Speaker 13: at the very outset of that, what am I about

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Speaker 13: to witness, what am I about to listen to in

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Speaker 13: how much of it can be trusted? And I think

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Speaker 13: that that is something that the Deputy Attorney General Todd

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Speaker 13: Blanche made very clear at the outset, and that it's

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Speaker 13: that he wanted her to be as forthright as possible

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Speaker 13: and told her that there could be potential charges if

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Speaker 13: she is caught saying anything that is inconsistent or it

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Speaker 13: can be proven false. But that still is not always

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Speaker 13: enough when it comes to criminal defendance like this, because

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Speaker 13: oftentimes they can lean on certain phrases, things like I

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Speaker 13: don't recall such as that, and I feel like we

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Speaker 13: did see a little of that on display with this

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Speaker 13: nine hour transcript from Glenn maxwellship. Of course, she was

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Speaker 13: there with her attorney the entire time, and so there

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Speaker 13: was a little bit of a back and forth where

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Speaker 13: there was a discussion about you know, you know, you

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Speaker 13: know this this supposed birthday book and you know, and that,

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Speaker 13: of course, we know, is the subject of a lawsuit

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Speaker 13: now Trump the spot against the Wall Street Journal after

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Speaker 13: it claimed that he had a page that he signed

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Speaker 13: in there for Jeffrey Epstein's fiftieth birthday. And it seemed

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Speaker 13: as though, at least, you know, Glenn Maxwell didn't really

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Speaker 13: think that Trump had any involvement or part in that.

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Speaker 13: But of course there's things, you know that we have

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Speaker 13: to take into account with her testimony. You know, you

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Speaker 13: would think that you know, hopefully if there's anything that

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Speaker 13: she said that was false, this DOOJ would potentially try

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Speaker 13: to bring you know, some kind of perjury charges against her.

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Speaker 13: But it was very fascinating, you know, interview, and I

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Speaker 13: think that you know, there was a lot of stuff

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Speaker 13: to glean from it, but of course there wasn't really

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Speaker 13: anything there so to speak about any like you know,

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Speaker 13: major revelations or things like that. So I think there's

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Speaker 13: still more to be done with investigations, additional document filings

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Speaker 13: coming out.

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Speaker 5: All right, So that's my big takeaway the end of

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Speaker 5: what you just said there, I felt like it was

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Speaker 5: much ado about nothing.

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Speaker 2: I'm still wanting more. I'm wanting more details.

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Speaker 5: I don't feel like I'm any more enlightened today than

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Speaker 5: I was, you know before this release.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, that's precisely the problem. I think that, you know,

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Speaker 13: there was a little bit of an effort by the

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Speaker 13: DOJ to extend in all branch to the people who

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Speaker 13: felt like the DJ wasn't providing enough information before. I

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Speaker 13: think that for the Epstein heads, the fanatics, it was

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Speaker 13: probably interesting to see some of her takes on things

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Speaker 13: that we know already, but it definitely didn't really move.

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Speaker 1: The ball forward at all.

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Speaker 13: But what we do know is that the DOJ is

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Speaker 13: in compliance with the House Oversite Committee's investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 13: That investigation is taking a whole look at a whole

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Speaker 13: lot of things, notwithstanding the fact that they want to

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Speaker 13: figure out what went wrong with the initial two thousand

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Speaker 13: and six two thousand and seven plea agreement and how

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Speaker 13: he was able to only get thirteen months served even

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Speaker 13: though he was convicted to the prostitution with a couple

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Speaker 13: of girls, one of them a girl, one of them

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Speaker 13: a woman.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean I think that.

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Speaker 13: There's a lot to really still unpack from that investigation.

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Speaker 13: We just learned actually today that the Oversight Committee is

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Speaker 13: going to be getting is going to subpoena materials from

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Speaker 13: the estate of Jeffrey Epstein that they think could further

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Speaker 13: that investigation. We also know that they have subpoenaed Alex Acosta,

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Speaker 13: the prosecutor who helped broker that plea agreement or that

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Speaker 13: you know, sort of soft you know, sentence that Epstein received,

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Speaker 13: and he's going to be sitting for a voluntary transcript

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Speaker 13: interview on September nineteenth, so we will be seeing finally

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Speaker 13: some testimony from alex Acosta. And I think that that's

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Speaker 13: something that a lot of people who have been grilling

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Speaker 13: the DOJ and the Oversight Committee have been seeking his,

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Speaker 13: you know, his answers to everything that went down with

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Speaker 13: that agreement.

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Speaker 5: So, Caitlin, how optimistic are you that we're going to

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Speaker 5: get some real substantive answers even from the House Oversight

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Speaker 5: Committee's investigation.

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Speaker 13: I think it's really going to come down to what

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Speaker 13: did the DOJ offer the Oversight Committee last week and

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Speaker 13: its initial batch of information that it delivered to the committee,

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Speaker 13: that how much of that information is things that we've

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Speaker 13: already seen versus things that might be new. We do

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Speaker 13: know that there are you know, tons of evidence and

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Speaker 13: information that has been kept under lock and seal within

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Speaker 13: the fa BI that's never been released. Perhaps there could

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Speaker 13: be something in the DJ's information that they gave that

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Speaker 13: involved FBI materials. We just don't really know quite yet,

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Speaker 13: but the Househovers that committee has said that they are

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Speaker 13: going to take a look at all the information, make sure,

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Speaker 13: you know, the names of victims are redacted, to make

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Speaker 13: sure there's no you know, child sexual abuse materials that

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Speaker 13: are in the files that they've received that they don't

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Speaker 13: accidentally or send to the public. And I think that

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Speaker 13: they are trying to create the most comprehensive investigation trope

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Speaker 13: of evidence that they can. And I think that the

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Speaker 13: also a good nudge in the right direction. We're also

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Speaker 13: going to be getting some you know, written testimony from

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Speaker 13: former Attorney generals like Eric Holder, Alberto Gonzalez, session Jeff Sessions,

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Speaker 13: and those are going to be under a penalty of

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Speaker 13: prosecution if any false statements are made in there. So

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Speaker 13: we already saw Attorney General Bill Barr go through that

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Speaker 13: serious they are going to try to put new information

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Speaker 13: out on the table. I think there's obviously we have

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Speaker 13: a lot of conspiracy surrounding Epstein where people think that

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Speaker 13: he maybe had intelligence ties things like that. It seems

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Speaker 13: that from the Glenn Maxwell interview that she thinks that

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Speaker 13: her father, Robert Maxwell, wasn't still doing any intelligence for work,

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Speaker 13: you know, in his retirement years. So it seems like,

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Speaker 13: you know, there's this effort maybe you know, coervertly under

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Speaker 13: the scenes to try to quash any long standing theories

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Speaker 13: about Epstein's you know operation, and you know how extensive

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Speaker 13: was his operation. But the one underlying thing that I

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Speaker 13: think people need to be pressing still on this is

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Speaker 13: that DOOJ has said that there were over a thousand

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Speaker 13: victims that Jeffrey Epstein made through his sex abuse and

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Speaker 13: exploitation over the years, and I think that we need

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Speaker 13: to press further on how do we get to a

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Speaker 13: thousand victims. Where are you getting that number from ham Bondie,

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Speaker 13: because I think that's the still the sticking you know

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Speaker 2: Caitlin.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate you being here with us today and look

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Terrence.

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Speaker 2: Of course, So here's a question for you.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back, everyone, Real America's Voice correspond to. Ben Berklem

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Speaker 5: is traveling the southern border, bringing you stories that you

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Speaker 5: won't see anywhere else. He's literally digging into the current

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Speaker 5: situation at the border, as he participated in a ride

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Speaker 5: along with border patrol agents in Tijuana, Mexico, in order

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Speaker 5: to shed light on a tunnel that was being used

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Speaker 5: by cartel members to smuggle contraband into the United States.

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Speaker 5: Ben's busy weak also included a trip to Nagallis, Arizona,

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Speaker 5: to assess the cartel lookout that was being used to

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Speaker 5: smuggle illegal immigrants across the border there. Ben is here

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Speaker 5: now to share his latest reporting with you. Ben, good

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Speaker 5: to see you. Where exactly are you if you can

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Speaker 5: give us a general look at your location?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Terren's good to be with you.

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Speaker 14: I'm in uh, just outside of Rodeo, New Mexico, for

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Speaker 14: those of you don't know. It's off the eighty and

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Speaker 14: the nine and uh kind of middle of nowhere, just

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Speaker 14: north of Douglas, Arizona, and heading out towards El Paso, Texas.

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Speaker 14: We've got, you know, make it several stops along the way.

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Speaker 14: Going to be ended up riding with Ice later on

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Speaker 14: this week, but showing you what we what we found.

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Speaker 14: So starting in Tijuana and with Oscar Blue Ramirez and

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Speaker 14: then going across I was with the Board Patrol in

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Speaker 14: their with their tunnel teams. This is, you know, one

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Speaker 14: of the things as the above ground border becomes shut down,

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Speaker 14: the anticipation is the cartel is going to use new

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Speaker 14: tactics and some old tactics to try to subvert law

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Speaker 14: enforcement to be able to get the drugs across. And

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Speaker 14: one of those is tunnels, and San Diego is a

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Speaker 14: major sector they've already uncovered since that tunnel team has

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Speaker 14: been in existence since twenty ten, ninety eight. Tunnels so

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Speaker 14: they're anticipating more of those. They just found a new one.

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Speaker 14: I was actually fifty feet below ground when they discovered

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Speaker 14: it with you know technology, ground penetrating radar and other technologies.

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Speaker 14: So it's an ongoing fight to secure this country.

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Speaker 5: And I think those tunnels, in that tunnel system that

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Speaker 5: you just described there really goes to show how far

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Speaker 5: these cartels are willing to go in order to get

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Speaker 5: their contraband be it people or drugs, into the United States.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and again writing, we'll be releasing some of the

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Speaker 14: interviews I did with the San Diego chief and the

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Speaker 14: Border Patrol Tunnel team, and that's you know, that's basically

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Speaker 14: the messages these guys. They have endless amounts of time,

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Speaker 14: and now because of Joe Biden's administration, they have virtually

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Speaker 14: endless amounts of money where they can just send people.

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Speaker 14: Some of the people are slave labor. They're they're held

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Speaker 14: in houses in Tijuana and forced to work until that

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Speaker 14: tunnel is built.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes those tunnels will take, you know, three four months.

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Speaker 14: Sometimes they can take years, like the ones they just

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Speaker 14: found that are fifty feet underground. That takes it an

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Speaker 14: awfully long time when you're doing it with hammer and

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Speaker 14: chisel and roto hammer, and so these guys are willing

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Speaker 14: to do what it takes again, if it means getting

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Speaker 14: their drugs across. The nice thing is this new tunnel

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Speaker 14: that was just discovered. They actually discovered it before it

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Speaker 14: ended up and one of the warehouses in O Tai

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Speaker 14: Mesa on the US side.

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Speaker 3: That's the other thing to understand.

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Speaker 14: You know, when the tunnels come in from Mexico, they

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Speaker 14: all end up in the United States somewhere, and there's

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Speaker 14: an entire section of businesses there, logistics companies that have

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Speaker 14: been implica implicated corrupted. Many of those businesses working in

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Speaker 14: either directly with the cartels or forced into working with

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Speaker 14: the cartels. And so these guys are they'll do whatever

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Speaker 14: it takes. So some of that's coming above ground across

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Speaker 14: the ports of entry. I've got some contacts that are

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Speaker 14: working on some corruption store actually intel within the Customs

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Speaker 14: and Border Protection that have reached out to me and

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Speaker 14: said we've got some information, so work in that angle.

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Speaker 14: And then some of it is going below ground. But basically,

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Speaker 14: anyway they can get their drugs into this country, they're

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Speaker 14: going to continue to do it. And to your point,

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Speaker 14: I was just out in Nogallas, one of those locations

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Speaker 14: I was at under Joe Biden just about a year ago,

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Speaker 14: where it had a it was just bald face in

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Speaker 14: your face.

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Speaker 3: They had this massive compound set up on top of

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Speaker 3: the hill.

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Speaker 14: Well, apparently when President Trump got into office, he forced

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Speaker 14: the Mexican military to go take that bunker out. But

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Speaker 14: as of yesterday, I just was down there, flew my

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Speaker 14: drone and there's another cartel lookout manning that location. So

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Speaker 14: as soon as the Mexican military leaves, the cartel takes

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Speaker 14: their position back. And that's why it's so important when

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Speaker 14: President Trump is talking about sending our military into Mexico.

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Speaker 3: This is the war that really matters for America.

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Speaker 14: It's not going to happen, unfortunately, just by Mexican military,

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Speaker 14: because so much of the Mexican government is already corrupted

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Speaker 14: as well.

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Speaker 3: So there's so.

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Speaker 14: Many avenue news that we have to go to secure

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Speaker 14: our country, and part of that is securing Mexico.

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Speaker 3: And that's a that's a major major undertaking.

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Speaker 5: Ben just very quickly, what you're describing sounds a lot

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Speaker 5: like whack a mole to me. You get one down

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Speaker 5: and then another one pops up elsewhere.

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Speaker 14: That's exactly what it is. They're endless supply of people

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Speaker 14: that are willing to take those positions. And just the

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Speaker 14: final thought is I asked one of the the my

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Speaker 14: counterparts media down there, Aerity Barr, who's going to be

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Speaker 14: on our next episode of Long Border, how do you

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Speaker 14: fix this? You know, we take the heads off the cartels,

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Speaker 14: he said, it's only going to change when you start

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Speaker 14: arresting the politicians and the law enforcement DNA and judges DA.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, das and judges that go down below.

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Speaker 14: They're the ones that really run the cartels now. So

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Speaker 14: that that just to give you an idea of how

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Speaker 14: difficult this task is.

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Speaker 5: Ben Berkham reporting for us along the Border. Safe travels, Ben,

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Speaker 5: and we'll be.

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Speaker 2: Talking to you soon.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Terrence.

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Speaker 11: You loved one and uh, so sad and so unnecessary.

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Speaker 11: And you know what people don't know, there were a

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Speaker 11: They made it, but what they got to go through hell?

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Speaker 11: And uh, we have thirty two at a minimum thirty

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Speaker 11: two and then you had hundreds of people killed. Overall,

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Speaker 11: you had hundreds of people killed that day. That was

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Speaker 11: and somehow this this group is just uh we get

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Speaker 11: uh thank you for four years now, I went to

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Speaker 11: because he saw how incompetent our military was under Biden

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Speaker 11: We knock the hell out of people if we have to,

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Speaker 11: honored to be with you again, and we'll be with

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Speaker 11: each other for a long time. And you loved ones

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Speaker 11: are looking down and they're very proud. This is the

880
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 11: new and improved Oval Office. We had an Oval Office

881
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 11: which was still the Oval Office, so I don't want

882
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 11: to disrespect it, but now it's very special and you

883
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 11: see what's happened, and everyone loves it. It's all the

884
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 11: real deal, twenty four carrot gold, and people come from

885
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 11: all over and I do believe they're serious. They're not

886
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 11: rolling their eyes, you know, the roller of the eyes.

887
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 11: But we don't have any of them. And we brought

888
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 11: the pictures up. They were in the vaults. Those are

889
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 11: pictures of some of our great presidents, a lot of them,

890
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 11: and they were in the vaults for over one hundred

891
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 11: years in many cases, and they were just there, beautiful pictures,

892
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 11: works of art. Lincoln, it's Lincoln, Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson,

893
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 11: that's Monroe of the Monroe Document. All mostly great presidents.

894
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 11: We have a couple of nun you're Benjamin Franklin, not

895
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 11: a president, but we figured he'd make the cut. I

896
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 11: would say he discovered electricity, a couple of other things.

897
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 11: But we have a lot of great presidents. But think

898
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 11: of it. They've been down there. It is George Washington,

899
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 11: the big one. They've been down there for in some

900
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 11: cases much more than a hundred years, and we brought

901
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 11: them out. I went through the vaults myself. I spent

902
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 11: hours down there looking. That's in between Russia, Ukraine, China,

903
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 11: all the other stuff. We do it. I want to

904
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 11: thank Doug Collins for being here, the secretary who's done

905
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 11: an unbelievable job. Thank you very much. And JD thank

906
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 11: you very much. You've been fantastic, and all of the other's.

907
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 11: Pete good. We did a little thing with Pete about

908
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 11: Secretary of Art and it seemed to be well received.

909
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 11: We'll do it a couple of more times and if

910
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 11: everyone likes it, will make that change. Pete. You'll decide.

911
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 11: But I just want to thank everybody for being here.

912
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 11: Very special to me, a very special day. Four years

913
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 11: is a very special time. And now it's lightening up,

914
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 11: but it'll never be really light. But there are some

915
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 11: great souls that are looking down on you right now,

916
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 11: and they're very proud of their parents and brothers and

917
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 11: sisters and but moms and dads especially, and that's what

918
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 11: I seem to have dealt with. Mostly. It's a tough

919
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 11: there's nothing tougher. So thank you very much. In the media,

920
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 11: I want to thank you because you've been very respectful

921
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 11: of this group of people and they deserve it. They

922
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 11: went through hell for no reason. It should have never happened.

923
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 11: And I'm going to sign the proclamation now and we

924
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 11: will have our we will have a very special proclamation

925
00:46:52,840 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 11: done and completed. Okay, Oh that's a good one. That's

926
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 11: a good when we read them, I don't put them

927
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 11: under the autopen. I don't say have the autopen sign

928
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 11: it right. We don't do that. I don't know how

929
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 11: anybody who's allowed to do that. They actually weren't.

930
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 8: Good.

931
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 11: One night you asked a couple of good questions. Today

932
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 11: it's been very fair. Actually, Okay, do you have any

933
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 11: questions on this subject, please.

934
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 15: Mister President.

935
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 16: Yes, the depend Secretary's word a review of Afghanistan withdrawal

936
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 16: that is ongoing.

937
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,959
Speaker 15: I'm curious if you have any update.

938
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: On that review.

939
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 15: And then for the families.

940
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 16: I know that there was frustration with previous investigations on

941
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 16: Capitol Hill. Are you satisfied with the speed of this

942
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 16: investigation thus far?

943
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 15: H Pete?

944
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 4: You want to answer that, yes, Sir, I'm on behalf

945
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 4: of this beautiful group, on behalf of these.

946
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 15: Families, on behalf of your loved ones and fought for

947
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 15: our nation.

948
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: America deserves answers as far as what happened in Afghanistan.

949
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 4: The military needs to answer for what's happened in Afghanistan.

950
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 15: So upon the President's direction.

951
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 4: Immediately we initiated an investigation which showed that they're needed

952
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 4: an even deeper dive. So Sean Parnell, depending on spokesman

953
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 4: who himself is an Afghanistan veteran, is leading this effort.

954
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 15: It's a top priority for us.

955
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 4: We're getting access to all documents necessary, why decisions were made,

956
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 4: why they weren't made, why certain force protection measures were ignored.

957
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 15: Again, there's never been accountability for this.

958
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 4: It's something that Joe Biden allowed to happen that never

959
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 4: should have happened.

960
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 15: Anybody who any objective observer knows.

961
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 4: That's not how you leave a country, and certainly these

962
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 4: families know better than anyone else.

963
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 15: These families deserve answers. We're going to be honest about it.

964
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 15: We're going to get to the bottom of it.

965
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 4: Sean Parnell in Afghanistan VET is leading it, and we're

966
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 4: doing another behalf of the American people. So I would

967
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 4: anticipate middle of twenty twenty six, that's how thorough of

968
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 4: the review we're doing. Hopefully a little bit sooner, but

969
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 4: we're going into everything to get in under standing of

970
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 4: what happened.

971
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 11: So we remember these great thirteen Souls but we also

972
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 11: remember the people that were so badly injured our soldiers,

973
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 11: thirty two of them approximately, and uh we're in contact

974
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 11: with them always also. But they lost arms and legs

975
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 11: and their faces were blown to pieces, and they're incredible

976
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 11: and they, uh they suffer with it. And so we

977
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 11: understand that it should it never happened, should have never

978
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 11: been allowed to have happened, and they were in the wrong,

979
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 11: the wrong place. Bargram was the place to be, big

980
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 11: massive airfield with hundreds of acres surrounding it. Nobody could

981
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 11: get near it, and who would not have done that?

982
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 11: But we had a bunch of incompetent people running our country. Uh,

983
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 11: So we are going to uh talk for a little while.

984
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 11: We'll talk about uh people that I've got