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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Week four National Football League. Let's dive in. Not

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Speaker 2: wasted any time. It's almost a.

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Speaker 3: Dirty word in sports. The word is system.

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Speaker 2: I want you to think about that word for a

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Speaker 2: second now, what it means, the connotation in your mind

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Speaker 2: when you hear that with regard to sports system, it's

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Speaker 2: used often as a shot at quarterbacks. In fact, he's

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Speaker 2: a system quarterback. Well, we've got some coaches right now

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Speaker 2: who are running a quote unquote system, and we must

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Speaker 2: discuss good evening wherever you are all across this land.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Kyle Rudolph, how you doing tonight?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing excellent? Mark, How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 2: Like that word, I wonder what your thought is about

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Speaker 2: that word system. Every coach has one, right Like when

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Speaker 2: you were playing. Was this said to you at any

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Speaker 2: time or one thousand? Like, this is the system that

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Speaker 2: we're going to run, And how married to that system

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Speaker 2: are you when you're in one Before I tell you

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Speaker 2: who I'm talking about, why I'm bringing it up, what's

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Speaker 2: your relationship to that word in the NFL?

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Speaker 4: Well, I feel like the word system has a connotation

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Speaker 4: depending on which position we're talking about. I feel like

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Speaker 4: when we're talking about the quarterback position, it's almost a

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Speaker 4: negative connotation. If the term system is being brought up

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Speaker 4: and we're discussing a quarterback. Basically, what you're saying is

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Speaker 4: this guy's only having success because of the system, and

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Speaker 4: he is a system quarterback. He's a product of the system.

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Speaker 4: Whereas I feel like I've seen and heard that word

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Speaker 4: used in other phases of the game, whether it be

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Speaker 4: a defensive system and kind of the collective success as

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Speaker 4: an entire unit. And then also the other side of

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Speaker 4: it is the run game. You know, you see the

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Speaker 4: outside zone system, the wide zone system, you know, all

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Speaker 4: the way back of the days of Kyle Shanahan's father

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Speaker 4: and I played in that system under Gary Kubiak for

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Speaker 4: a couple of years, and you know, you look at

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Speaker 4: all of the running backs that have had incredible success,

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Speaker 4: all the way back to Tarle Davis and the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 4: That term system, I feel like the only time that

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Speaker 4: that word has a negative connotation is when it's applied

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Speaker 4: to the quarterback position.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And we can get to that a little.

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Speaker 2: You know, Brock Perdy, for example, suffers from that right now,

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Speaker 2: although he's probably in the top five in the MVP

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Speaker 2: vote if it were to happen today, too early for that,

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Speaker 2: although conversation to be had about that a little bit later.

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Speaker 3: Here's why I ask.

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Speaker 2: It seems to me that the head coach of the

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Speaker 2: don't call them the Los Angeles Chargers, Brandon Staley.

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Speaker 3: It seems to mean that he's got a system.

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Speaker 2: It is very much, as we hear, based on analytics,

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Speaker 2: and that can go a number of different ways. All

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Speaker 2: teams in sports are using analytics to a certain degree.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting you just bring up the name Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 2: This week he sort of spoke about analytics and what

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Speaker 2: if you just really fully commit to the analytics, your

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Speaker 2: brain freeze. It will overwhelm there's almost too much information.

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Speaker 2: And when I watch Brandon Staley coach. This is the

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Speaker 2: second Sunday in a row that you and I have

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Speaker 2: sat here after the Chargers won a football game. They won,

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Speaker 2: because we're watching this guy employ some sort of paralysis

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Speaker 2: by analysis where he continues to go forward on fourth

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Speaker 3: Back to the opponent.

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Speaker 2: Both times his defense has made a pick at the

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Speaker 2: could have been had much easier. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: but if there's a way, I'd like to raise my

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Speaker 4: I certainly don't understand the logic or the analytics and

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Speaker 4: either of those situations that say go for it on

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Speaker 4: about this almost at nauseum on this show with you know,

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Speaker 4: certainly if you know your defense is just going to

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Speaker 4: pick the ball off at the goal line every time, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: why does it go for it on fourth down every time?

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Speaker 4: If that's his analytical stance, that says, oh, well, you

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Speaker 4: know at that point it's on my defense. They got

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Speaker 4: to make a play. Well, why don't you put that

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Speaker 4: pressure on your defense the entire game instead of just

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Speaker 4: at the end of the game when you turn the

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Speaker 4: difficult on your defense. But if I'm Brandon Staley, I'm

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Speaker 4: he's two weeks in a row, just absolutely gambling coming

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Speaker 4: up on the positive side there to get the team

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Speaker 4: to two and two. So I checked before we hopped

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Speaker 4: billion dollars. So he's got to go grab a few

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Speaker 4: tickets on his way home from so far today.

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Speaker 2: I had not noticed that, and so therefore so will I.

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Speaker 2: I will also be purchasing a few tickets on the

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Speaker 2: way home, and we'll see if that works out.

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Speaker 3: But the crazy thing is my man like.

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Speaker 2: You talk about taking a gamble, and obviously he does,

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Speaker 2: and we say he gets away with it twice, but

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Speaker 2: not because the gamble went well. In other words, he

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Speaker 2: gambled that he could get a yard.

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Speaker 3: On fourth down.

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Speaker 2: Both times he was wrong, absolutely wrong, and only because

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Speaker 2: the ball bounced his way. Last week with Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 2: by a Sante Samuel Jr. That was wonderful. However, you're

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Speaker 2: so he got got and maybe that was part of

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Speaker 2: the calculus that went through Brandon Stavey's brain. But Kyle,

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Speaker 2: I also, I would back off on this if this

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Speaker 2: it's not. This guy been ripped on Twitter by his

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Speaker 2: at home going, what on earth are we doing? And

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Speaker 2: for me, the Chargers now sit at two and two,

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Speaker 2: and that's all well and good. But I was having

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Speaker 2: he's kind of like, how would you.

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Speaker 3: How would you describe the Chargers?

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Speaker 2: You know, like, are they good? Are they bad? Are

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Speaker 2: they somewhere in between? I don't even know how to

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Speaker 2: define them other than this, they're the most underachieving team

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. And I know how injured they were today.

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Speaker 2: Believe me, no Eckler, Nobosa, no Derwin James, I get it.

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Speaker 3: But good lord, this talent is going to go to waste.

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert statistically has probably been the best player in

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Speaker 2: him because he's about a breath away from being zero

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Speaker 2: to four. And I just I don't I don't know

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Speaker 4: Quite frankly, well, I think the biggest thing and you

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Speaker 4: hit the nail on the head when you had mentioned

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Speaker 4: even his own players injured at the house, tweeting you know,

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Speaker 4: what are we doing? It's you're putting your players in

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Speaker 4: difficult situations. As as the head football coach, your job

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Speaker 4: And going for it on fourth and one, backed up

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Speaker 4: the exact opposite of setting your guys up for success.

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Speaker 4: And quite honestly, you look at those last two plays.

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Speaker 4: He's a TJ. Hockinson dropped pass in the end zone

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Speaker 4: an interception. And a first start rookie quarterback in Aidan

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Speaker 4: You know, a Sante Samuel, they pass it off. He's

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Speaker 4: that's any veteran quarterback in the NFL, they're going to

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Speaker 4: see that ten times out of ten, probably make you

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Speaker 4: pay for it. Certainly a lot more has to go

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Speaker 4: on after that. That's just to tie the game. But you,

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Speaker 4: just as the head coach, it's your job to put

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Speaker 4: two weeks in a row, just taking blatant gambles that

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Speaker 4: didn't work out but ultimately paid off. You know, I

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Speaker 4: just see it as he's the guy sitting next to

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Speaker 4: he's two weeks in a row.

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Speaker 3: It's unreal.

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Speaker 2: Actually, you know who he is and just made me

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Speaker 2: think of it. It's not the guy who doubles down

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Speaker 2: He's the guy who doubles down or splits when he's

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Speaker 2: there's some mathematical equation that tells this guy there's a

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Speaker 2: different way to do it, and he's a slave to that.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see, we'll see where this conversation is

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Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks. The Chargers are off next week, Kyle,

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Speaker 2: So first and foremost, we will not lead our show

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Speaker 2: with them next week, so that's good.

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Speaker 3: But after that they host the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: I can promise you that Sofi Stadium will be overrun

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Speaker 2: by Cowboys fans in that game Monday Night Football, October sixteenth.

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Speaker 3: The week after that, on short rest, they will.

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Speaker 2: Go to Arrowhead and I don't know, man, if they're

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Speaker 2: sitting at two and four, which seems very very possible,

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Speaker 2: I would bet they might even be underdogs in both

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where this coach leaves this team, because

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Speaker 2: they've got you would think they've got all the pieces

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Speaker 2: they need, but it hasn't really turned into anything tangible yet.

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Speaker 4: It is, it's an extremely talented roster. And I even

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Speaker 4: go back to last year and the way that the

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Speaker 4: season ended. You know, you think about blowing that huge

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Speaker 4: for the entire offseason of disappointment, thinking back to that

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Speaker 4: the next round, going to Arrowhead to play against the Chiefs. Instead,

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Speaker 4: one of your division rivals. But you know, you mentioned

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Speaker 4: they get the week off, then they played the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: football as we speak, you know, you follow to one

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Speaker 4: in three, you're going to be out of it before

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Speaker 4: Aaron even has a chance to come back. If you

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Speaker 4: don't do something. So we've talked about it over the

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Speaker 4: last few weeks. Just how talented this Jets roster is.

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Speaker 4: You know, certainly we've kicked around all the different ideas.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned the Vikings getting their first win over the

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Speaker 4: Winlis Panthers because Harrison Smith decided to play like Ed

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Speaker 4: Reid and had fourteen tackles, three sacks of force fumble

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Speaker 4: that scored a touchdown. So the Vikings can thank Harrison

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Speaker 4: Smith for giving them hope now at this point the season,

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Speaker 4: as they got their first winning Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Not quite done with the Bears. I want to ask

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Speaker 2: you this because we just talked about the coaches and

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Speaker 2: so we're feeling how we're feeling about it, but I'm

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Speaker 2: more interested in how they're feeling about it. Justin Fields

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Speaker 2: was asked a few questions about why he sort of

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Speaker 2: feels out of place or you know, just uncomfortable in

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Speaker 2: the offense. This was prior to last week's game, and

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Speaker 2: one of the first words that popped out of his

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Speaker 2: mouth was coaching.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know exactly how he.

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Speaker 2: Meant it, but he felt compelled to then call another

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Speaker 2: press conference at his locker later in the day to

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Speaker 2: sort of try to walk that back because of how

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Speaker 2: hot to touch. That kind of a comment is but

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Speaker 2: let's go further. DJ Moore on the field a week

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Speaker 2: later is caught by live mics laughing at the idea

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Speaker 2: of how the Bears are using him the coaching staff. Now,

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Speaker 2: Chase Claypool becomes a healthy scratch today because why because

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Speaker 2: two days ago he's at his locker and the media goes,

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Speaker 2: do you feel like you're being used correctly? And he

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Speaker 2: flatly looks at them and goes no. So like it's

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Speaker 2: one thing for everyone to feel that way. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: that happens in every losing locker room, especially amongst receivers.

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Speaker 3: They've got a certain way or tend to.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that everyone is finding microphones to say

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Speaker 2: all this stuff, Kyle, I don't That's not happening anywhere

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Speaker 2: else in the NFL right now. And I just what

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Speaker 2: does that say to you when you hear stuff like

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Speaker 2: that in a locker room less than a month into

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Speaker 2: the season.

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Speaker 3: That tells you what.

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Speaker 4: It tells me that you can't start winning until you

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Speaker 4: keep from losing exactly the quote that I brought up before,

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Speaker 4: and that type of culture throughout your locker room is

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Speaker 4: what equates to fourteen straight losses. It's you know, you

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Speaker 4: have a guy that you trade for, you bring him

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Speaker 4: over and you know certainly he's not happy. No one

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Speaker 4: should be happy you're zero to three. So I believe

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Speaker 4: that if you were to ask anyone in that locker

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Speaker 4: room are you happy with how you being used? I'd

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Speaker 4: be a little upset if I was on the coaching

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Speaker 4: staff or the general manager there, and oh yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: completely satisfied. I think it's great. You know, we're off

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Speaker 4: to an incredible start, especially offensively. That's that's not what

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Speaker 4: we expect. But there's a way to handle it, and

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Speaker 4: there's a way to approach, you know, especially in today's world,

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Speaker 4: media has access to the locker room multiple times a week.

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Speaker 4: You make yourself available. You know these type of questions

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Speaker 4: are going to be coming. Just say the right things

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Speaker 4: and then go out and prove to your coaches that

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Speaker 4: you deserve more touches by being productive. When you get

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Speaker 4: the ball in your hands and you look at the

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Speaker 4: box score from today, and that's exactly what guys like

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Speaker 4: DJ Moore, Cole Comet, Darnel Mooney, that's exactly what they did.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: DJ Moore caught eight of nine targets. Cole Comett caught

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Speaker 4: seven of nine targets. We talked about Justin Fields playing

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Speaker 4: maybe his best game ever as an NFL quarterback today,

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Speaker 4: and now you see it through the first three quarters

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Speaker 4: of the Chicago Bears from an offensive standpoint, exactly what

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Speaker 4: it has to look like, what we've been saying the

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Speaker 4: last couple of weeks, what they have to do on

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Speaker 4: offense to go win games. They showed it for three

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Speaker 4: quarters today. But that toxic attitude and that mentality that

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Speaker 4: arguably sent Chase Claypool home because they told him not

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Speaker 4: to come to the game, and you know, I saw

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Speaker 4: some reports that he came to the game anyways, and

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Speaker 4: it's just like you're inactive because they told you not

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Speaker 4: to come, and then you come to the game. It's

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Speaker 4: like that that's just a losing culture, and that's how

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Speaker 4: you blow a fourteen point lead in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: How do you handle the Claypool situation.

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Speaker 2: I honestly before this week, was surprised he was still

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Speaker 2: on the team, just because of a few things that

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Speaker 2: I've heard. Also just reading tea leaves, there have been

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Speaker 2: whispers that are pretty loud, quite frankly all season long

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Speaker 2: that the Bears felt like Claypool was a problem in

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Speaker 2: the locker room, was a problem outside of the locker room.

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Speaker 2: You're not getting a whole lot of production. And then

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Speaker 2: he goes public with things this week. You know, listen,

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Speaker 2: I'm not close enough to the situation to really say

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Speaker 2: this way or that way. But if you're trying to

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Speaker 2: build a culture, as you're saying, and they clearly are,

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Speaker 2: and the season is not going to go anywhere this year,

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Speaker 2: there were people who thought, gosh, the Bears, if things

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Speaker 2: break a certain way, could they contend for a while

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Speaker 2: card in that division. That was not a crazy thought

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Speaker 2: four weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: It is now. It is now.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised Chase Claypool still on the team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean I wouldn't be surprised if that's

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Speaker 4: something that we see early this week with him being

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Speaker 4: a healthy scratch and asked not to come to the

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Speaker 4: game on Sunday. So certainly, if you're in the Chicago

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Speaker 4: Bears management, if you're on the Chicago Bears staff, you know,

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Speaker 4: we've talked about this losing culture, losing attitude. I mentioned

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Speaker 4: the quote multiple times that Zim just pounded into our

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Speaker 4: foreheads when he came and took over a losing team.

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Speaker 4: You know, most of the time when you get a

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Speaker 4: new head coach in the NFL, it's because you didn't

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Speaker 4: perform under the prior one. So you know you're a

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Speaker 4: losing organization at that time, and you know that's those

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Speaker 4: are the type of people that you can't have around

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Speaker 4: because you know that ultimately affects us. There's in the

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Speaker 4: locker room, especially, you have a young, very impressionable quarterback.

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Speaker 4: You want guys around him that are going to you know,

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Speaker 4: make him better, build off the way that he played today.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I said it last week on the show,

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Speaker 4: just bagging the Bears to do anything to give this

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Speaker 4: kid some semblance of confidence, and I think they finally

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Speaker 4: did it today. You know, when you're justin fields, you

561
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Speaker 4: can go back and you can watch this tape and

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Speaker 4: see a lot more good than bad and see how

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Speaker 4: you have to play moving forward, you know, to get

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Speaker 4: to a respectable number. But at the same time, you're

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Speaker 4: the Chicago Bears right now. You hold the first and

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Speaker 4: second overall picks in the draft, so that's a quick

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Speaker 4: way to turn your franchise around. But you know, if

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Speaker 4: you're the quarterback and you hold one and two, you're

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Speaker 4: probably not going to be the quarterback much longer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, it's it's a fair point, all right, Tyrack

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Speaker 3: That's where we are.

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Speaker 2: Things are going Sunday Night Football the way many of

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Speaker 2: us thought they would.

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Speaker 3: Forty eight yard run Isaiah Pacheco.

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Speaker 2: That's a touchdown and a ten point lead for the Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: and hugs all around for Taylor Swift. So a little

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Speaker 2: the corner. They've been talked about as an upstart Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl contender all week long and then all of a

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Speaker 2: Glad you're with us week four and we're going through

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Speaker 2: the schedule and all the thoughts and all the topics

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Speaker 2: live intheti IRAQ dot com studios. What'd you think of Miami?

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Speaker 2: Man the Dolphins. Look, that's a tough assignment. I absolutely

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Speaker 2: thought the Bills were going to win this one. I

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Speaker 2: didn't think they'd necessarily score forty eight, which is kind

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Speaker 2: of where my mind goes.

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Speaker 3: It's such a week to week league with our opinions.

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Speaker 2: Miami visited, they visited the Fancy House all week. It

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Speaker 2: was like wait a minute, maybe maybe that's a team

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Speaker 2: that's gonna go to the Super Bowl. Out of the AFC,

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Speaker 2: they're the only three to zero team, and then they

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Speaker 2: get this challenge and Buffalo hangs forty eight on them

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Speaker 2: and seemingly did it with ease. And my question about

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Speaker 2: Miami and following Mike McDaniel's career pretty closely, I love

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Speaker 2: their weapons, I love their creativity.

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Speaker 3: I think Tua, if healthy for the year, is good enough.

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Speaker 2: He's an interesting player, and they've got all kinds of

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Speaker 2: great stuff going on. And you notice how everything I

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Speaker 2: said was on the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: To me, that's where this that's where this ends.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Miami Dolphins have the defense to

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Speaker 2: be considered a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you look at offensively they score twenty points,

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Speaker 4: but really when you dive into the box score and

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Speaker 4: you look at the statistics, it was a pretty good

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Speaker 4: day for them on offense. If you take the turnovers away,

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Speaker 4: it wasn't Miami's offense that cost them the game up

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Speaker 4: there in Buffalo. And you know, one of the things

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Speaker 4: that surprises me, and you know, Miami addressed this offseason

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Speaker 4: bringing a guy over in the name of Vic Fangio

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Speaker 4: to try to fix that defense, a guy who's been

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Speaker 4: successful as a defensive coordinator everywhere he's been. And I

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Speaker 4: played against his San Francisco defenses back in the day

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Speaker 4: all the years he was in Chicago, and one of

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Speaker 4: the calling cards of a Vic Fangio defense was always

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Speaker 4: red zone defense. You know, you go back historically look

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Speaker 4: at his defenses and they're constantly ranked at the top

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Speaker 4: of the league in red zone percentage defense. And today

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Speaker 4: they go, you know, the Bills go five out of

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Speaker 4: six scoring touchdowns in the red zone and hanging forty

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Speaker 4: eight on them. So it's it's the Dolphins at some point,

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Speaker 4: you know, that's their eighth straight loss in Buffalo, and

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Speaker 4: you think about it. You're in that division. If you

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Speaker 4: can't go there and win in September early October, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna have to go there again in January, just like

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Speaker 4: they did last year, when you're, you know, a wild

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Speaker 4: card team that ultimately has to go play the division

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00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: winner in the Buffalo Bills at home in Buffalo, and

657
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 4: you know, you talk about the Mike McDaniel offense and

658
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: Tua and all this speed and all these weapons the

659
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 4: easiest way to slow that down is to go play

660
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 4: in ten degrees in Buffalo in January. It doesn't quite

661
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 4: work the same as it does in Miami at any

662
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 4: point during the season. So to me, when I look

663
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 4: at it, it's like if the Dolphins really want to

664
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Speaker 4: solidify themselves as a contender. You know, you see it

665
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: all the time, especially in division. You know, the Bills

666
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 4: have been the bully in the AFC East the last

667
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 4: few years since Tom Brady left, And until you could

668
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 4: go there and win there, I don't know that no

669
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: matter what your wreck is, what the statistics say, how

670
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 4: many points you're scoring, I don't know that we can

671
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 4: say you're a legitimate Super Bowl contender. Yes, you could

672
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 4: be the shiny fancy toy for that week and score

673
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 4: seventy points, But until you can go win those kinds

674
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 4: of games like they played today, I don't know. Especially

675
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Speaker 4: in the AFC, where you have the Bills, you have

676
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: the Chiefs, we can say that you're a contender to

677
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: come out of that conference. And I think you got

678
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 4: to give the Bills credit because sure, you know, we

679
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 4: came out of Week one. They play on Monday Night football.

680
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 4: Josh turns the ball over like crazy. Since that Week

681
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: one game, he's got eight touchdowns in one turnover and

682
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 4: he's throwing the ball all over the place. They're scoring

683
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 4: crazy amounts of points. And to me, that Bills team

684
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 4: looks like the biggest threat to the Chiefs in the

685
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Speaker 4: AFC right now.

686
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Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more. I mean, it's interesting.

687
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: Normally we start a year and all the things that

688
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 2: we've been saying all off season kind of get blown

689
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: up pretty fast. We're like, ook, you know, we all

690
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: thought this, and actually it's that, And truth be told,

691
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: I think through one month of the season, we've pretty

692
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: quickly arrived at the same opinion we already had, which

693
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: was Bill's Chiefs, AFC, Eagles, Niners, NFC. Yes, there are

694
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: other players shout out Dolphins and Cowboys and even the

695
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: Lions and and you know, could Miami be a player? Absolutely,

696
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 2: Like it's not that simple. But even though the Chiefs

697
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: have a blemish and the Bills have a blemish, let's

698
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: be honest, those four teams look like the power And

699
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: when I watch the Bills play ball right now, I

700
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: mean I'm pretty quickly forgetting what.

701
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: Happened on Opening Night. They have been.

702
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely crushing people from weeks two through four.

703
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think you know, you look at really

704
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 4: the way the game played out. I mentioned Vic Fangio

705
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 4: and the Dolphins defense, but what Sean McDermott did after

706
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 4: giving up you know, opening scoring touchdowns the first two

707
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 4: drives and then holding him to six points the rest

708
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 4: of the game. The adjustments that he made throughout the

709
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 4: course of that game to hold this high power Dolphins

710
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 4: offense to only twenty points. You know, I think that's

711
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 4: what makes the Bills such a contender. We know what

712
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 4: Josh Allen's going to do, we know what Stefan Diggs

713
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 4: is going to do, Gabe Davis, all these guys. They're

714
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 4: gonna score points, they're gonna make plays. But you know,

715
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 4: the question mark to me was without Leslie Frazier calling

716
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 4: plays and now Sean taking that defense back over, how

717
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 4: are they going to help the help the Bills take

718
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 4: that next step? And I think we saw that today.

719
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Speaker 2: The AFC has a division that houses two teams that

720
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: ran into the exact they were hoping to not run

721
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: into today. So we'll dive into that a little bit

722
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: more coming up next. Because one specific team they've been

723
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: off to a pretty rough start, but everyone's kind of

724
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: been waiting, like, Okay, just get through the weeds and

725
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: everything is going to suddenly pop.

726
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 3: And I went into today thinking, boy, this.

727
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: Is a bad spot for this team and the season

728
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: could really get on the wrong road today, and Kyle,

729
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: it did and I really want to dive into this

730
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Speaker 2: team with you. Will do that coming up next on

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Speaker 3: Kyle, I know you got kids. My nine year old

748
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: his name is Jude.

749
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: He's sitting right here with me, and apparently I need

750
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: to work on my game because as I built that,

751
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: as we call it in our business, ats to let

752
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: people know there's a team out there that I'm just like,

753
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: this is a bad spot and this is kind of

754
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: the put up or shut up and is there actually

755
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: a problem or not weak? And as I went through

756
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: all that, he looked at me. Right right, we got

757
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 2: to break. He goes, Dad, you're talking about the Bengals,

758
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 2: aren't you, And I said, yeah, I am. I'm talking

759
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: about the Bengals because this one, Kyle, I like, in

760
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: the NFL, we don't really feel sympathy right at. The

761
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: whole vibe of this league is just right. This is

762
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: adult physicality.

763
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

764
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: Nobody's got time to worry about your injuries because everybody's

765
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: got them. But I'm watching the Cincinnati Bengals play football

766
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: right now, and I'm like, I don't even know who

767
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 2: you are anymore. That's not you. I know it's not you.

768
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: I've watched enough of you to know that that's not you.

769
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: And so Joe Burrow can go out there and complete

770
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: sixty seven percent of his passes like he did today.

771
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: But the fact is they've got no juice. There's nothing downfield,

772
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: there's nothing that scares you on the defensive.

773
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: Side of the ball. And it is largely because of

774
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 3: his health.

775
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: So it seems t Higgins now broke a rib today,

776
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: which is gonna make it even tougher. I fear that

777
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna be too far into this season when the

778
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: Bengals are themselves for them to have enough time to

779
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: catch up.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting that you say that you don't recognize

781
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 4: the Cincinnati Bengals team because you've watched them. That just

782
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 4: means you haven't watched them long enough. As someone who

783
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 4: grew up in Cincinnati, this is the Cincinnati Bengals that

784
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 4: we have all known and watched for a really long time,

785
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 4: with the exception of with the exception of the yeah,

786
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: the last two years. And it's it's funny because I

787
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 4: hear it all the time from everyone back home, you know,

788
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 4: since they got Joe and then ultimately they take Jamar

789
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 4: number four overall the next year and it's great. Joe's

790
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 4: got his buddy from LSU and Jamargo's crazy rookie of

791
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: the year. They go to the super Bowl that first year,

792
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 4: and then they come back this past year another AFC

793
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 4: Championship game, losing a tough game to the Kansas City

794
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 4: Chiefs in Kansas City. But the narrative has still been

795
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 4: there for the last couple of years. We have our

796
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 4: friends quarterback. He's one of the absolute best young players

797
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 4: to build your franchise around, but we have to protect him.

798
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 4: And here they are. You know, we're a quarter the

799
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 4: way through this season. And yes, Joe's health has been

800
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 4: the topic of discussion since he injured that calf in

801
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 4: training camp. But it's not the calf that worries me.

802
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 4: It's the fact that this offense doesn't scare you because

803
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 4: they can't throw the ball down field, because they can't

804
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 4: protect their quarterback long enough to throw the ball down field.

805
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 4: And you know, everything is just you know, twenty to thirty.

806
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 4: You mentioned it's sixty seven percent completion percentage one hundred

807
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 4: and sixty five yards. That's not the Joe Burrow that

808
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 4: we've all seen the last couple of years. Where this

809
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 4: Bengals offense is an offense with skill players all over

810
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 4: the field, wide receivers that can threaten you deep and

811
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 4: score every single time they touched the ball, and quite honestly,

812
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 4: right now they just can't protect well enough. And then

813
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 4: Joe's immobility because of the calf injury. He can't buy

814
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 4: more time, he can't execute plays off schedule. So therefore

815
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 4: that's exactly what you get. Twenty of thirty for one

816
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 4: to sixty five, no touchdowns, no interceptions, fairly clean game,

817
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 4: not dynamic, not the Bengals offense that we've come accustomed

818
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 4: to watching for the last two years. So definitely time

819
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 4: for concern in Cincinnati, because you know, you just made

820
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 4: him the highest paid player in football history. You might

821
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 4: want to protect him a little bit.

822
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: You know what, just listening to you talk about that

824
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: brings up something that I don't know if I've ever

825
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: gotten into an in depth conversation with any X athlete.

826
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Speaker 3: And I don't even know if you're comfortable being called

827
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: that yet. I know it's only been a handful of months,

828
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: But like.

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Speaker 2: When I would imagine y'all grow up fans at and

830
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: then you become players, and obviously your fandom sort of

831
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 2: gets put aside because you're putting on a different uniform.

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00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: When you retire, do you go back to being a

833
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: fan of the childhood team, or are you more of

834
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: a fan of like the main team for which you played.

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Speaker 4: I think, well, for me, I could put it two ways.

836
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 4: Explaining to people what blacked out games are growing up

837
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 4: in the nineties, when just about every home Bengals game

838
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: was blacked out, people will think, well, what's that. Well,

839
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 4: when you don't sell out your home game, it's not

840
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 4: allowed to be televised in the local market. So growing

841
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 4: up in Cincinnati, I never watched the Bengals on TV

842
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 4: because they didn't sell out the games. Therefore, I was

843
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 4: watching the forty nine Ers, the Broncos, the Cowboys, the Steelers,

844
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 4: the Packers, all of those dominant teams of the nineties.

845
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 4: Those are the teams that I grew up watching. And

846
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: I never really grew up a fan, not even just

847
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 4: talking about the Bengals. I never grew up a fan

848
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 4: of any one specific team college or pro. So then

849
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 4: as I get into college, into the NFL, play a

850
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: long time in the NFL, then you leave that team,

851
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 4: so I go play for the Giants per year. I

852
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 4: played for the Bucks for the year. I think now

853
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 4: as a former player, I root, you know, certainly I

854
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 4: want the teams that I played for to do well

855
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 4: because I know a lot of the guys in those

856
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: locker rooms, and ultimately I find myself rooting for players

857
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 4: and watching players more so than teams that I grew

858
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 4: up rooting for, or you know, even teams that I

859
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 4: played with, and certainly spending ten years in Minnesota, you know,

860
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: that's an organization a team that I will always root

861
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 4: for and want to do well, because again, it goes

862
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 4: back to people. There are so many people in that

863
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 4: building that I know that I want to see have success.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean that's what I would have guessed.

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Speaker 2: But it's interesting to hear you kind of talk about

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00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: All right, So back to those Bengals. It's interesting the

872
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: way you put it. Maybe injury is not the excuse.

873
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: Maybe this is more about the construction of the team.

874
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: And I do wonder where this is going, because the

875
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: Bengals now find themselves in a really really tough spot.

876
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: They do make Joe Burrow the highest paid player in

877
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: NFL history. I do believe that's going to mean that

878
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: T Higgins doesn't play there next year. And if this

879
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: ends up being a lost year, and it's too early

880
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: to say that, I'll grant you, but they're in about spot.

881
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: And to see an effort like today to get blown

882
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: out by a team that quite frankly, has had a

883
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 2: hard time scoring points all year long, is a really

884
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 2: really bad sign. And at one in three and and

885
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: a division that is filled with capable teams, let's.

886
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: Put it that way. If this ends up being.

887
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: A lost year and next year starts that sort of

888
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: anti Brady process of Okay, what are we doing financially

889
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: going forward? It just feels to me like the Bengals

890
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: might be the team out of the top six or

891
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 2: seven in the NFL power rankings odds for the Super Bowl,

892
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: if you will, that that could fall, that could fall,

893
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 2: quite frankly, off of the map.

894
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because you when you think about Joe

895
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 4: Burrow becoming the highest paid player in the NFL, he

896
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 4: was still on that rookie contract, so his gigantic cat

897
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 4: has not kicked in yet, so you know you have

898
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 4: this window. I feel like we talk about it a

899
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Speaker 4: lot on this show. There's a couple ways to go

900
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 4: about building a championship caliber team. You have the forty

901
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 4: nine ers and their seventieth ranked salary quarterback with all

902
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 4: of the skill around him, and you know, just about

903
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 4: every position having a top paid player at it, Or

904
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 4: you have your quarterback. You believe in your quarterback, you

905
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 4: make him the highest paid player in football or one

906
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 4: of the highest paid player in football because the quarterbacks

907
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 4: are just making so much more than every other position.

908
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 4: Right now, you have to be okay with Okay, we'll

909
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 4: have maybe a year maybe two until his cap number

910
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 4: is going to jump. You know, I look at the

911
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 4: guys that have been signing deals over the last couple

912
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 4: of years, and you know, those are the ones that

913
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 4: are jumping to the top of the cap hit in

914
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Speaker 4: twenty four twenty five, T Higgins being an unrestricted free agent.

915
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 4: Those are the type of players because you know you

916
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 4: can't pay him because Jamar Chase is coming immediately following

917
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 4: after you did the Joe Burrow deal, So his contract

918
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 4: is coming up. You're gonna have to pay him because

919
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 4: you will keep him, and you just start to lose

920
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 4: those really quality starting players. You know, you have your superstars.

921
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 4: You're not gonna let Jamar Chase walk out the door

922
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 4: because you're paying Joe Burrow, but you lose the depth.

923
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Speaker 4: And I think that's what we see happen with a

924
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 4: lot of these rosters who ultimately have a quarterback making

925
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Speaker 4: a ton of money.

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Speaker 2: The rookie of the Year conversation might have started to

927
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 2: take shape today will dive into that because there is

928
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Speaker 2: a very clear front in that conversation.

929
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Speaker 3: So it's Week four in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Sunday alongside Kyle Rudolph, It's Mark Willard.

931
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Speaker 3: That's where we're going next on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

934
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935
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 5: listen live.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll keep you posted live tire Rank dot com

937
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 2: Studios with Kyle Rudolph, Mark Willard. Tell you what's rolling

938
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Speaker 2: out right now is the Jets offense. I don't know

939
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Speaker 2: if we've said that at any other point this year,

940
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Speaker 2: and I don't mean that they're performing all that well,

941
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Speaker 2: I simply mean they're on the field the entire time.

942
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 2: So this went safety because of a penalty and the

943
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Speaker 2: end zone, followed by Jets get the ball, drive down,

944
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: get a field goal, followed by very next play from

945
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Speaker 2: scrimmage from Patrick Mahomes interception and not a good one,

946
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 2: by the way, one like not an unlucky Kadarius Tony taypick.

947
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: And so the Jets now have it at seventeen to

948
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Speaker 2: five and have the ball in chief's territory. We'll keep

949
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Speaker 2: you up to date on everything that unfolds in Sunday

950
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: Night football. But Kyle, the Houston Texans did not defeat

951
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers.

952
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 3: They blew them out. This thing was never in doubt.

953
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: They're up double digits at half, and they were up

954
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 2: by twenty four when this whole thing was over.

955
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: And CJ. Stroud has gone and done it again.

956
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: Completion percentage not perfect, but this guy has got a

957
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,479
Speaker 2: flare over three hundred yards, two touchdowns. And the thing

958
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: that's really important to if I'm CJ's agent, I'm squawking

959
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 2: about this every week right now, there is a goose

960
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: egg in the interception column.

961
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Speaker 3: Four starts into his NFL career.

962
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 2: I like, I've got to look at all the quarterbacks

963
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: this year, Stroud, brock Purdy, who's also in his first

964
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: full season. I mean, he has not started sixteen games yet.

965
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody else can boast the zero

966
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: in the interception column, but to do it right out

967
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: of college in your first four games is crazy.

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00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 3: CJ.

969
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: Stroud so far looks like he looks like the guy

970
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 2: based on all the quarterbacks who've been taking the last

971
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: two or three years.

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Speaker 4: He does. And it's one thing to have a zero

973
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 4: in that I int category in the stack column, but

974
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 4: it's another thing to do it while throwing the ball

975
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 4: over thirty times a game, passing for over one thousand yards.

976
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 4: I think he's at one thousand, two hundred something yards,

977
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 4: second all time amongst quarterbacks in their first four games.

978
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 4: And when you think about like all of the quarterbacks

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00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 4: that have come into the league, the guy's names that

980
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 4: he's around, he's thrown for more yards to the first

981
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 4: four games than Andrew Luck did. And we all know

982
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 4: about the hype and anticipation that Andrew Luck came into

983
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 4: this league, as you know, everybody was talking about. He's

984
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 4: arguably one of the greatest quarterback prospects ever, and yet

985
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 4: for CJ. Stroud, all we ever heard was he's probably

986
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 4: just another Ohio State quarterback. We'll see if he can

987
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 4: have success in the NFL. You know, there really wasn't

988
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 4: a whole lot of conversation with him going number one.

989
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 4: It was kind of Bryce Young all the way going

990
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 4: number one, and through the first quarter of the season,

991
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 4: I think CJ. Stroud's making a huge argument for probably

992
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 4: should have been the first overall pick.

993
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: Apologies to the others to starting quarterbacks who I left

994
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 2: out of this one who have not been picked off

995
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: this year, Josh Dobbs, justin Herbert. But what's really impressive

996
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 2: here when you start to now get into the nuts

997
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: and bolts of what Stroud did and oh, that's right,

998
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 2: Herbert did throw one today, didn't he. So that it's

999
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: now down to Dobbs, Purty and Stroud. Oh just who

1000
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: you would have thought of?

1001
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 3: Crazy? But Stroud, we're.

1002
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 2: Talking about one hundred and fifty one pass attempts. One

1003
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty one pass attempts. You're first one hundred

1004
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: and five to one pass attempts as a professional, and

1005
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 2: not one bad bounce, not one bad decision, none of that.

1006
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: And it's not like he's not throwing the ball downfield.

1007
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: The guy's throwing for three hundred yards per game.

1008
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think that's We talked about the word

1009
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 4: system earlier in the show, and you know, you can

1010
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 4: make the argument that's what everybody said last year when

1011
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 4: when Brock Purty took over late in the year in

1012
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 4: San Francisco. Well, it's a product of the system. He's

1013
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 4: getting the ball to Christian McCaffrey. Their high percentage completion plays,

1014
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 4: the run game is incredible. He's got a great defense,

1015
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 4: like no one ever wants to give that guy credit. Well,

1016
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 4: you can't make any of those arguments around CJ. Stroud.

1017
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 4: He's playing for, you know, arguably one of the least

1018
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 4: talented rosters in the NFL. The Houston Texans had the

1019
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 4: second pick and then traded for the third pick, so

1020
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 4: they had two top five picks last year in the

1021
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 4: NFL draft, which shows you the success they had the

1022
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 4: year before. So, you know, for this guy to come

1023
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 4: into a team that really no one had any expectations

1024
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 4: for coming into this season and has really played well.

1025
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 4: But you look at their schedule coming up, I don't

1026
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 4: know if you've glanced at it yet. They're at Atlanta,

1027
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 4: then the Saints go there, then they're at Carolina, so

1028
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 4: they have a stretch, and then they go to the Bucks,

1029
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 4: at the Bengals, Cardinals. They've got a five six games.

1030
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 4: I mean, we could be looking at the Texans as

1031
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 4: one of these teams. You know, they're two and two

1032
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 4: right now. We could be in mid November in the

1033
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 4: AFC South that's really not that competitive. Jacksonville hasn't shown

1034
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 4: that they're going to run away with it. Tennessee got

1035
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 4: back to two and two today, just kind of a

1036
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 4: lot of average football in that division. Houston could be

1037
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 4: a team that's competing in that division late in the season.

1038
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 2: Well, I am looking at it right now, and you're

1039
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 2: absolutely right. I don't want to guess where things are

1040
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: going to go with certainty, like who's going to be good,

1041
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: who's not, who's healthy, who's not. But when you start

1042
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: talking about the teams that we've discussed earlier, the Buffaloes,

1043
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 2: the Kansas City's, the Miamis of the world, even the

1044
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: Baltimore's go to the other conference San Francisco, Dallas, Philadelphia, Detroit.

1045
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: What do they all have in condom.

1046
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: None of them are on Houston's schedule. That's it, like,

1047
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: none of them, So that what they've got left. As

1048
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: you stated, right, there's Carolina, there's an Arizona, there's Denver,

1049
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: there's the Jets. You know obviously all the division opponents

1050
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: they have, none of whom are terrifying. They're all solid.

1051
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 2: I mean, did you keep the standings in that division?

1052
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: Do you notice who's in first place?

1053
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 4: Everyone?

1054
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:48,479
Speaker 2: It's all of them, Yes, it's They're all two and two.

1055
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: All four of them are two and two. I don't

1056
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: know how to pull this thing apart. I know Jacksonville

1057
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: is supposed to be the best one, and based on

1058
00:58:55,440 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: what they did very early this morning in London, I still.

1059
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 3: Think they are.

1060
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 2: But everybody is capable. Yet everybody also has warts. And

1061
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: you would figure that a team quarterback by CJ. Stroud

1062
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: has a young skill position set of players as well,

1063
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: like you'd figure they're gonna get better as the year

1064
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 2: goes along too.

1065
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and when you look at the schedule, you mentioned

1066
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 4: all those teams that we talk about as our Super

1067
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 4: Bowl contenders from both conferences, and none of them are

1068
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 4: on the schedule. They have a bunch of games where

1069
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 4: if you let this young roster of inexperienced players continue

1070
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 4: to play well and gain confidence throughout the course of

1071
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 4: the year, you know, Houston could be a team. Like

1072
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 4: I said, we could get to the middle of November

1073
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 4: and you know, you say you got to win nine

1074
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 4: or ten games to make the playoffs as a wild

1075
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 4: card team. I can find nine or ten wins on

1076
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Speaker 4: this schedule, like absolutely, especially if they play the way

1077
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 4: they played the first quarter of the season.

1078
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Speaker 3: I love it.

1079
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Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, I mean, and even look, I know

1080
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: that it was kind of a devastating loss for the

1081
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts today.

1082
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 3: But Anthony Richardson, like, boy.

1083
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Speaker 2: This is a guy who's come up on our show

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Speaker 2: already a lot in the first four weeks. He's already

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Speaker 2: missed one and a half of the first four games.

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Speaker 2: But when you dive into what you're actually watching when

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Speaker 2: he's playing, are their health concerns because of.

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Speaker 3: A lot of hits? Yes, there are, dot dot dot.

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Speaker 2: There's also a hell of a lot of intrigue based

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Speaker 2: on some of the physical skills.

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Speaker 3: That you're watching.

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Speaker 2: So that division the Tennessee Titans are sitting here in

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Speaker 2: a spot where they might be turning over the quarterback

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Speaker 2: position soon. And I wonder if they're going to really

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Speaker 2: take a step back because the other three teams just

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Speaker 2: right now. I know it's still very early. I'm not

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Speaker 2: putting anything in ink, but the three young quarterbacks on

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Speaker 2: the other three teams, man, that could present, you know,

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01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: flash forward, I don't know, two three years from now.

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Speaker 2: Does that feel kind of like a Josh Allen to

1101
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: type of a situation, Ama Holmes Herbert type of a situation.

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Speaker 2: That could be a very interesting group of quarterbacks in

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Speaker 2: that division not too long from now.

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Speaker 4: It could be in when you think about the Tennessee

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Speaker 4: Titans as that fourth team in the division, that's a

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Speaker 4: team that has built built themselves around Derrick Henry. And

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Speaker 4: I feel like that's been the question for the last

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Speaker 4: five years, Well, how many times can you keep giving

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Speaker 4: this guy the football down after down, game after game,

1110
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 4: season after season, where ultimately he hits the cliff, like

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01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 4: his body starts to break down, he can't carry the

1112
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Speaker 4: load that he wants carried. And here he is proving

1113
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Speaker 4: us wrong time and time again. And he went out

1114
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Speaker 4: there and threw a touchdown today. So maybe Derek Henry

1115
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 4: will be the guy who say, Well, you can talk

1116
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 4: about all the other quarterbacks in the division, but as

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Speaker 4: long as I'm here, this team will go through me.

1118
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 4: And if I have to throw touchdowns to help us

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Speaker 4: win games, I'll do that too.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. Speaking of who's here,

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Speaker 3: guess who else is here? It's Martin Weise.

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Speaker 2: Let's find out what's trending, and then we'll keep things going.

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Speaker 2: Tonight Week four NFL, Hey Martin, what's going on?

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Speaker 10: Well, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 10: Major League Baseball regular season ended today. The Astros clinched

1131
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Speaker 10: the AO West and to buy the Mets fired manager

1132
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 10: book Show Walter. They finished twenty nine and a half

1133
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Speaker 10: games back from the NLST. That season was cursed from

1134
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Speaker 10: the beginning, and the Tigers won in Miguel Cabrera's last

1135
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 10: game some late afternoon scores. In the NFL, the Chargers

1136
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 10: improved to tune in two somehow after Brandon Stelly wentford

1137
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 10: on fourth and one on his own side of the

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01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 10: field for the second week in a row. They hang

1139
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 10: on beat the Raiders twenty four to seventeen after a

1140
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 10: Sante Samuel had an interception in the end zone.

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Speaker 4: The clinch it.

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Speaker 10: Forty nine Ers roll the Cardinals thirty five to sixteen.

1143
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Speaker 10: Rock Purty, you just talking about the mark twenty one attempts,

1144
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 10: only one incompletion, two hundred and eighty three passing yards.

1145
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 10: Forty nine is undefeated through four weeks and have scored

1146
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 10: over thirty points in all four. That's the league's bess

1147
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 10: offense right there. Dallas beating New England thirty eight to three, Cowboys,

1148
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 10: scoring two defensive touchdowns and adding insult to injury for

1149
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 10: the Patriots, Matthew Judon reportedly suffered a lower bicep Tendantyre

1150
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 10: unsure how much time that he'll miss. I'm sure the

1151
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 10: Swifties aren't quite nervous yet, but don't look now. After

1152
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Speaker 10: her new favorite team jumped out to a seventeen and

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01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 10: nothing lead, the Jets have scored eleven straight with the

1154
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Speaker 10: safety a field goal, and believe it or not, Zach

1155
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 10: Wilson threw a touchdown pass and that afore mentioned Zach

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Speaker 10: Wilson he got to start tonight for the Jets.

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Speaker 3: But apparently Aaron.

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Speaker 10: Rodgers told NBC's Melissa Stark, he and somehow it tends

1159
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 10: to play this season af they're suffering an achilles injury

1160
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 10: on the fourth play of this season.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Mark, Oh my goodness, can we talk

1162
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 2: about that for a second.

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Speaker 3: Do you buy that?

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Speaker 5: Kyle?

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Speaker 3: What are we talking about here?

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Speaker 2: First it was, Hey, Aaron Rodgers might be back for

1167
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 2: the playoffs, And I don't know if we all have

1168
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 2: the same thought. I'm like, that would be a miracle,

1169
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 2: but the bigger miracle would be the Jets making the

1170
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Speaker 2: playoffs with Zach Wilson. So I don't like, I just

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01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 2: sort of blew it off. Now he's going to be

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Speaker 2: back in the regular season, Like this is an achilles

1173
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Speaker 2: injury just before age forty, Like the world I live in,

1174
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Speaker 2: that's a career threatening injury. And Aaron Rodgers is like,

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Speaker 2: I'll be back in a few weeks.

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Speaker 3: What is this conversation?

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Speaker 4: It's incredible, And you know, it's one thing with like

1178
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 4: the great athletes across all of sports, it's one thing

1179
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 4: that you learn not to do is doubt them, or

1180
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Speaker 4: you know, we're hanging on on every word that Aaron

1181
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 4: says because you know, whether he's on Pat McAfee's show

1182
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 4: with his weekly appearance, whether he's talking to Melissa Stark

1183
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 4: on the sidelines before the game. Anytime Aaron says something,

1184
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 4: we take it as the bible. Aaron's like, well, I'll

1185
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 4: be back. Like now, we all believe it because you

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Speaker 4: just as a fan, as someone that watches the game

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Speaker 4: as much as we all do, You've seen him time

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01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 4: and time again, either play through injuries or come back

1189
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Speaker 4: from injuries, or be written off and say that you

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Speaker 4: can't do something, and they always find a way to

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01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 4: do it. Now, how he's going to do this, I

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01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 4: have no idea. So whatever doctor Elatrosh did and that

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Speaker 4: surgery to even give him the thought of coming back,

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Speaker 4: you know, within four months, you know, I think of

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Speaker 4: some of the fastest Achille injuries. You know, Cam Akers

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Speaker 4: from the Rams is one that always gets brought up.

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Speaker 4: He did it in the summer and then came back

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Speaker 4: for the playoffs. Obviously, his style of play as a

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Speaker 4: running back and as a young I don't mean this

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Speaker 4: in the wrong way. Aaron as a young athlete, his

1201
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Speaker 4: his game is a little different than the Aaron Rodgers

1202
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Speaker 4: that we see. If he comes back at some point

1203
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 4: this season. So you know, if you're the New York

1204
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 4: Jets and Aaron tells you I can go out there

1205
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 4: and stand in shotgun and take my three step five

1206
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 4: step drop and get rid of the ball, You're going

1207
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 4: to take that option over Zach Wilson. That gives you

1208
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 4: a better chance to win games. So I've kind of

1209
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 4: learned just you believe everything these guys say and until

1210
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 4: they till it doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I've like the guy he popped

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Speaker 2: his achilles.

1213
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Speaker 3: That's like, it's the worst injury in the league, is

1214
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Speaker 3: it not.

1215
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Speaker 2: I know we've we've all been conditioned on the torn

1216
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 2: acl and and there's nothing you can do with that

1217
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: for a year or so. However, we've you know, yes,

1218
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: we've watched out liars Adrian Peterson take less. But at

1219
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Speaker 2: the same token, it's one of those where we're like,

1220
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Speaker 2: we watched guys come back and it's a slow process.

1221
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Speaker 2: The achilles. I mean, come on, I don't know, man,

1222
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 2: I just I don't even know what this conversation is.

1223
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 2: There's no way that Aaron Rodgers is playing football this year.

1224
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 4: The only reason why I give him the benefit of

1225
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 4: the doubt is because the position that he plays, he's

1226
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 4: plenty smart enough to protect himself to be in the game,

1227
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 4: to be back there at quarterback. You know, this conversation

1228
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 4: came up a lot when people were just assuming when

1229
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Speaker 4: he got hurt on opening night, that this is over.

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Speaker 4: You're almost forty years old. It's a torn achilles. You

1231
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 4: can never come back from that. And I actually saw

1232
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 4: one person actually said, if Tom Brady can play quarterback

1233
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 4: at forty five years old with his limited athleticism, Aaron

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Speaker 4: Rodgers can come back from this achilles injury and play

1235
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Speaker 4: quarterback in this league. And to me, that's that's the

1236
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Speaker 4: biggest factor here. And I mentioned before, if you mean

1237
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 4: to tell me that a sixty percent Aaron Rodgers has

1238
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 4: a chance to be on the field, You're going to

1239
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 4: put a sixty percent healthy Aaron Rodgers on the field,

1240
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 4: and that gives you a better chance of winning the

1241
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,799
Speaker 4: game than one hundred percent healthy.

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, Tyrack dot Com Studios, Mark Willer, Kyle Rudolph,

1243
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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I should open my mind based

1244
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 2: on what you just said. A forty five year old

1245
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 2: man like was playing in the NFL eight months ago,

1246
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: that doesn't make any sense either, so.

1247
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 4: In playing at a very high level, at.

1248
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Speaker 2: A high level, although hey, we have brought this up,

1249
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 2: you know it was your team last year as well.

1250
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay Bucks. One on Earth is going on there.

1251
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 2: I mean, they were the last team this year to

1252
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 2: name their starting quarterback.

1253
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 3: They were the last one.

1254
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 2: And whenever you've got a quarterback battle that goes into

1255
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: mid August, in my opinion, that pretty much means you

1256
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 2: don't have a quarterback.

1257
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 3: If you can't figure.

1258
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 2: It out by you know, August fifth, then that's probably

1259
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: not a great sign. But Baker Mayfield wins that job.

1260
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 2: He has been serviceable at a minimum. And now you're

1261
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 2: looking at a team in a division that we know

1262
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 2: is going to struggle this year. No one's going to

1263
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 2: run away from anyone but three and one, and to

1264
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: go do what they did on the road this week

1265
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 2: at New Orleans, I don't know that was a legitimizing effort.

1266
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Speaker 3: To a certain degree, I would say.

1267
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Speaker 4: I would agree with you, and partly just because of

1268
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 4: the team they played, the stadium that they played in,

1269
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 4: you know, the I got a taste of it for

1270
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 4: the first time last year being on the Buccaneers and

1271
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 4: that rivalry between the Saints and the Bucks, and it's

1272
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 4: going down to New Orleans and playing in the Superdome

1273
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 4: is not an easy place to play. And I think

1274
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 4: if you were to make an argument as to you know,

1275
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 4: of those three teams that started the year two to

1276
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 4: zero in the division, who who of those three teams

1277
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 4: would you have guessed we're gonna probably be the one

1278
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:35,799
Speaker 4: to ultimately take the upper hand and lead the division.

1279
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 4: Most people would have said the Saints. And you had

1280
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:42,759
Speaker 4: been like, Derek Carr's there, good defense. They were doing

1281
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 4: all of that without Alvin Kamara. So Alvin Kamara comes

1282
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 4: back today, it's his first game of the season off suspension.

1283
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 4: You think, okay, this this has to be a game

1284
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 4: that the Saints win to really kind of get the

1285
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 4: upper hand in the division. And you know, the Bucks

1286
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 4: went down into in a tough place to play. Baker

1287
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 4: has a one to sixteen quarterback rating, throws for three touchdowns,

1288
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 4: you know through the interception. Ultimately the Saints gave the

1289
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 4: ball right back after he threw the pick, and they

1290
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 4: win in a double digit fashion.

1291
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Speaker 2: Really impressive, man, really impressive, and a very winnable division.

1292
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 3: And off to a three and one start.

1293
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:26,759
Speaker 2: Already, Okay, let's do a little exercise, and I wonder

1294
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,640
Speaker 2: if we come up with the same thing. I do

1295
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 2: a pickpool with my family every single year. We've been

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Speaker 2: doing it for more than twenty years. And whenever you

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Speaker 2: have a pickpool, when you get even halfway through the season,

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Speaker 2: you always have at least one team where you're like,

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01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 2: they're my kryptonite. I cannot figure them out. I do

1300
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 2: not know what the hell you're gonna do from one

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01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 2: week to the next. You look like a different team

1302
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 2: every single time I turn my television set on. I

1303
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 2: think I've already got my team for the year. So

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01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 2: I want you, and I promise everyone listening we have

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01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 2: not talked about this. Think about the team that is

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01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 2: making you scratch your head the most. Already, four weeks in,

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Speaker 2: I've got mine. We'll compare notes. Coming up next. That's

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Speaker 2: Kyle Rudolph. I'm Mark Willard, and this is Fox Sports Radio.

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1310
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,080
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1311
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01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 5: listen live.

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Speaker 3: We're four weeks in.

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Speaker 2: We're just starting to take shape, and there's already a

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Speaker 2: team that.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, let me think to one, two, three, four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I've only picked their game correct one

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01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 2: time this year. Only once have I picked their game right?

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01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 2: Who is it for you? Who has you scratching your

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01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 2: head the most so far this year?

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Speaker 4: I feel like as you go through this stands and

1322
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 4: you go through the teams, it's like we we talked

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01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 4: about the AFC South and you have the entire slew

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01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 4: of the AFC South that's two and two. So it's

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Speaker 4: like you look at all these teams that are playing inconsistent. Uh,

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01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 4: but you know, you and I talked about it a

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01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 4: little bit. I think the two and two team that's

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01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 4: hardest to figure out is the Rams. I think that

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01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 4: when when you talk about that team, we kind of

1330
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 4: just all assumed that they would go away because Cooper

1331
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 4: cups not playing the first four weeks of the year.

1332
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 4: He goes on ir he's got this lingering hamstring injury.

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01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 4: No one knows really anyone else on that team. Uh,

1334
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 4: no one really. We definitely didn't know who Puka Nukua

1335
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 4: was before the first four games, and so real, I

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01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 4: mean just record setting pace for wide receiver number in

1337
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 4: terms of catches and yards. And you know how fitting

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01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 4: was it that today he's the one that makes the

1339
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 4: play and overtime to end the game. But the thing

1340
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 4: with the Rams, and you know, I shot you a

1341
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 4: note about this just before they it doesn't matter who

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01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 4: else is on the field as long as Matthew Stafford's

1343
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 4: on the field. You saw essentially this same team last

1344
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 4: year when Matthew Stafford got hurt, and they were not

1345
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 4: very good. They did not compete the back half of

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01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 4: the year. Certainly Baker came in and won the Thursday

1347
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 4: night game for him. That was probably the highlight of

1348
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 4: the back half of the year that they had without

1349
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford last year. But you see him today, the

1350
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,759
Speaker 4: pain that he's in throughout the course of the game.

1351
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 4: He has the hip injury. He can hardly move late

1352
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 4: in the game, and yet he's he's got that Patrick

1353
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 4: Mahomes and it really shouldn't even be called Patrick Mahomes

1354
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 4: arm talent because Matthew's been doing it since Patrick was

1355
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 4: in high school. I watched him across the division in

1356
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 4: Minnesota and it was like every time we played the Lions,

1357
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 4: you're expected to beat the Lions because they were the Lions.

1358
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 4: But yet you have this guy on the other side

1359
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 4: of the field and Matthew Stafford who just slings it

1360
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 4: around and they always have a chance to win, and

1361
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 4: they were so hard to go against because the elite

1362
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,560
Speaker 4: arm talent that Matthew Stafford has. So I got to

1363
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 4: give props to Matthew Stafford for the performance that he

1364
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 4: showed today. Gutsy and overtime walk off touchdown finding Puka

1365
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 4: Nakua there down the stretch. So yeah, that's my rams

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01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 4: take for you.

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01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 3: Yep, that's and that's that's the team. That's the one.

1368
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 2: The only time I picked their game right this year

1369
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,799
Speaker 2: is when they lost to the forty nine ers, although

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01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 2: they certainly didn't indict themselves in that game, like they

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01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 2: hung in there, they had shots at times to maybe

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01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 2: take more him in that game. They've certainly played the

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01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 2: forty nine ers better than anybody else has so far

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01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: this year and they lose it by seven. You know,

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01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 2: shout out to Sean McVay and Vegas, but whatever, let's

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01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: call him Sean mcvegas.

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01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 3: At least he was on that play. But anyway, more on.

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01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 2: Nikoua in a second, just the Rams. What's happening here?

1379
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 2: When you have a team they go to Seattle and

1380
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: they have an unbelievable second half, shut him out and

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01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 2: get a surprising win. And then they're right there, some

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01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: would say, even taking it to the forty nine ers

1383
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 2: in the third quarter of Week two. Then damn goes downhill,

1384
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 2: Niners beat him. Then you go Monday night to Cincinnati

1385
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: the Bengals, who can't do anything against anyone with a

1386
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 2: compromise Joe Burrow and the Rams look terrible. And then

1387
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 2: they come right back out this week, blazing on fire

1388
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 2: in the first half, then cough up a huge lead

1389
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 2: to a rookie quarterback, only to then go on a

1390
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 2: drive that was very Stafford ask at the end. And

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01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 2: it ends as you said with with Nikua, it's not

1392
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 2: even weak to week Kyle, it's half to half the way.

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01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 3: This team looks complete Jekyl and Hyde well, and.

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01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 4: You mentioned the the forty nine ers game. Yeah, that's

1395
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 4: probably the best game they've played all year and ultimately

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01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 4: and ended up in a loss for him. But you

1397
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 4: know you're going against the cream of the crop, not

1398
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 4: only in the NFC West, but in the NFC and

1399
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 4: in the entire league, and ultimately for me, like I

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01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 4: love studying kind of the other side. So when I

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01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 4: think about all of the scenarios that go into the

1402
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 4: Rams up and down throughout the course of the year,

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01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 4: Like it was not a surprise to me that they

1404
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 4: went to Cincinnati and Cincinnati beat him, only because what

1405
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 4: was on the other side. You had an zero to

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01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 4: two Cincinnati Bengals team, Jamar Chase is getting frustrated, he's

1407
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 4: not getting the ball. It's like who's backs up against

1408
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,799
Speaker 4: the wall more in that situation. So you know, seeing

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01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 4: a Bengals team come out, fight for the life, ultimately

1410
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 4: get their only win of the season, Jamar Chase goes

1411
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 4: off for his more typical Jamar chasepe type statistics. So again,

1412
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 4: like I love studying the other side of it. And

1413
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, so they play well week one, then

1414
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 4: they lose it the second half of week two, then

1415
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 4: they lay an egg week three. It's like, what was

1416
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 4: on the other side that forced those performances, and you

1417
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 4: know the forty nine ers being the forty nine ers

1418
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 4: and then the Bengals having their backs against the wall?

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01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 4: To me, is the other part of that second loss?

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01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 2: Hey, real quick, where is this Puka Nakoua thing going

1421
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: when Cooper Cup is back eligible in the next game.

1422
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 2: He's already over five hundred yards receiving the rookie the

1423
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 2: rookie in four games, He's over five hundred yards already.

1424
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 4: I don't see it going anywhere. I think Puka Nukua

1425
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 4: becomes your Robert Woods. He becomes that accessory to Cooper Cup.

1426
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 4: They just elevate this offense even more. Now you can't

1427
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 4: put as much attention on him because you have one

1428
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 4: of the best receivers, if healthy, back for the Rams.

1429
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 4: I see him complimenting one another really well.

1430
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 3: Unbelievable man.

1431
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 2: Just an incredible story and maybe the most fun name

1432
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 2: to say in the NFL. All right, coming up next

1433
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 2: the NFL Quarter Pole MVP.

1434
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 3: That's next.

1435
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,559
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Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

1438
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 5: listen live. Polly Fosco here with Tony Fosco.

1439
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: Yo. Of course you know us.

1440
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 7: As the host of the number one rated show and

1441
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 7: all the sports talks, The Polly and Tony Fusco Show.

1442
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 5: YEA.

1443
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 7: Now the suits at Fox Sports Radio gave us this

1444
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 7: add because they wanted us to tell.

1445
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 1: You how great our show is.

1446
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 8: Why Yeah, instead of us doing that, let's just let

1447
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 8: our millions of fans do the talking.

1448
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 3: Ye ain't played the tape.

1449
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 9: You don't know crap about pool? Why am I even

1450
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 9: owned crap? Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

1451
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: That's the wrong tape, wrong tape.

1452
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 3: Just forget that.

1453
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 7: Look, listen to the Paully of Tony Pusco show on

1454
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 7: the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast orherever you get your podcasts.

1455
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this man, Kyle Rudolph is not that far

1456
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 2: removed from playing in the NFL, so I bet it

1457
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: still rings in your ear. I bet a time or

1458
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 2: two you've been told, Kyle by a coach, don't you

1459
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 2: dare get caught looking ahead?

1460
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 3: Do not get caught looking ahead? But huh.

1461
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 2: Now you're a member of the sports media, so you

1462
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 2: can get caught looking ahead every damn day if you want,

1463
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 2: because that is what we do, and that is something

1464
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 2: I want to do. Right now, it's way too early

1465
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 2: for this, but it's fun. So so what it used

1466
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 2: to be called the quarterpole, Now they're seventeen games, so

1467
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 2: we're not quite there. I don't know if it's twenty

1468
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 2: two percent or whatever it is through the season, but

1469
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 2: as we sit here at what used to be called

1470
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 2: the quarterpole.

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01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 3: I don't know about you.

1472
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 2: I think this is one of those few years where

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01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 2: we may have an NFL MVP that does not play

1474
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 2: the position of quarterback. For me today, Christian McCaffrey's the

1475
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 2: NFL MVP so far.

1476
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 4: I agree. I was actually on the team of the

1477
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 4: last running back to win the NFL MVP and the

1478
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 4: season that Adrian Peterson had in twenty twelve, and when

1479
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 4: I look at what Christian McCaffrey does for that forty

1480
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,799
Speaker 4: nine ers offense, and you know, when we had Adrian

1481
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 4: in twenty twelve, everybody that we played knew we were

1482
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 4: turning around and we were handing the ball. We had

1483
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 4: multiple tight ends in the game, we had a fullback

1484
01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 4: in the game. You know, we didn't look like the

1485
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 4: San Francisco forty nine ers. And the fact that, yeah,

1486
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 4: they have the same personnel in the group, but it's

1487
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 4: not just power football. Every time you turn around and

1488
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 4: hand the ball to Christian McCaffrey. Something we've talked about

1489
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 4: a lot on this show is how do you continue

1490
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 4: to get your elite running backs touches without beating them up,

1491
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 4: and back in the day, that wasn't a thing. Adrian

1492
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 4: got better, almost as if the more he got hit

1493
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 4: he tended to wear the opposing team. I remember there

1494
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 4: were games in the fourth quarter where guys were just done.

1495
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 4: They did not want to tackle Adrian anymore. They're like,

1496
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 4: this guy runs way too hard, like I'm just I'm

1497
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 4: over it. And then all of a sudden, he would

1498
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 4: he'd break an eighty yard run in four minute, and

1499
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 4: not only would it it seal the game, but then

1500
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 4: you know he ran for a buck sixty five because

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01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 4: he just cracked an eighty yarder in four minute, And

1502
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 4: that's not Christian McCaffrey. Like when you see Christian McCaffrey's

1503
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 4: he's getting the ball in SPA and the run game

1504
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 4: and the pass game. You mentioned the quarter pole, and

1505
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 4: it's not the quarter pole anymore because we have that

1506
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 4: extra game. But if we were just doing simple math

1507
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 4: and you look at the pace that he's setting right

1508
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 4: now as he's approaching the quarter mark of the season,

1509
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 4: I mean, you're talking about potentially two thousand yards rushing.

1510
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 4: You're talking about potentially the single season record for touchdowns,

1511
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 4: and that's just rushing the football, not to mention a

1512
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 4: possible almost eighty receptions and multiple touchdowns and yards because

1513
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 4: he just does it all for that offense.

1514
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 2: Four hundred and fifty nine yards on the ground already,

1515
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: he is averaging five point seven yards per carry, six touchdowns,

1516
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 2: as you said, another eighteen catches for one hundred and

1517
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: forty one yards through the air. Another touchdown through the

1518
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 2: air that came today. I wonder how many people have

1519
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 2: also zeroed in. And this, to me is why you

1520
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 2: can start talking about MVP. There's always there's stats. There's

1521
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 2: a lot of people who stuff stat sheets, and we

1522
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,759
Speaker 2: get excited about him in the fantasy world, and in fact,

1523
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 2: the fantasy world has often blurred our vision in terms

1524
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:18,919
Speaker 2: of who actually is a really good football player. Sometimes

1525
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 2: I think we get a little out of whack about

1526
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 2: who's a good quarterback, who's not, you know, who's winning

1527
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 2: games versus who's putting up stats all of that stuff.

1528
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 2: Like I mean, even take this year and Justin Herbert's

1529
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 2: probably a bad example because his stats are fantastic and

1530
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 2: I think he's fantastic, but his team is having a

1531
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 2: hard time winning and closing out games. Someone like Brock

1532
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: Purdy gets a lot less attention. The stats aren't quite

1533
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 2: as as sexy, nor is the arm, nor is the size,

1534
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 2: nor is the anything except for all of the you know, winning,

1535
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 2: Like every single time he plays type thing. Today he

1536
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 2: had a sum total of why in completion one.

1537
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 3: That's it. That was the deal for Brock forty today.

1538
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 2: So this team has obviously got it going on, and

1539
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 2: there's a lot of talk about why and who kind

1540
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 2: of drives the bus. But I wonder if everyone knows

1541
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 2: this Sunday, October thirtieth, twenty twenty two, that was Christian's

1542
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 2: first start as a forty nine er. Now he had

1543
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 2: played a couple of snaps the week before, but he

1544
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 2: had just been acquired like three days before that game

1545
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:37,759
Speaker 2: Sunday October thirtieth at the Rams last year christians first

1546
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 2: start as a forty nine er. Do you know how

1547
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 2: many games they've lost since that day?

1548
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 4: One? And I think it would have been the NFC

1549
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:48,959
Speaker 4: Championship game.

1550
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 2: That is correct, And obviously they played the majority of

1551
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 2: that game quarterback lists, and so you know there are

1552
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 2: reasons for that. They haven't lost. They've not lost a

1553
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 2: regular season game since this guy started. And I don't know,

1554
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 2: I feel like that's that that's not being kind of

1555
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 2: shouted from the mountaintops quite enough.

1556
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 4: Well, No, And I think when you talk about the

1557
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 4: most valuable player in the league, it is something that

1558
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 4: has become a who's the quarterback with the best stats

1559
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 4: or who's the quarterback on the best team type award.

1560
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 4: And I think when if there's ever an a year

1561
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 4: to make an argument where you know, you look at

1562
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 4: all of the quarterbacks and their statistics, you know, to

1563
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 4: the Dolphins went up to Buffalo and stubbed their toe today.

1564
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 4: Prior to that, Tua had as good of an argument

1565
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 4: as anyone because his team was three and zero. He

1566
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:56,799
Speaker 4: was playing a huge part in their success, scoring seventy

1567
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 4: points the week before. But you know, it's like here

1568
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 4: we are this week. He's kind of brought back to life,

1569
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 4: although he's still leading the league in pass yards. Then

1570
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 4: you have Matthew Stafford, Kirk Cousins, the rookie CJ. Stroud

1571
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 4: that we just talked about Justin Herbert, and then you

1572
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 4: get to like Josh Allen, Jared Goff, guys whose teams

1573
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 4: are three to one and up there leading their division.

1574
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 4: So if there's ever a year where another offensive position,

1575
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 4: whether that be a Christian McCaffery or someone else, there

1576
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 4: really is no other else in terms of importance to

1577
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 4: their team. You just said it. The forty nine ers

1578
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 4: have not lost a football game since he became the

1579
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 4: starting running back of the San Francisco forty nine ers,

1580
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 4: And you know, we can say a lot about brock

1581
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 4: Purty and the fact that brock perty also hasn't ever

1582
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 4: lost a regular season game as the side quarterback of

1583
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 4: the San Francisco forty nine ers, but it's kind of

1584
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 4: you know, which one is more important to their success?

1585
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 4: And personally, I'm going to say Christian McCaffrey because of

1586
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:09,560
Speaker 4: all the arguments we've made about you know, system quarterbacks

1587
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 4: and the players that surround him, and the fact that

1588
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 4: he's the seventieth highest paid quarterback in the NFL allows

1589
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 4: him to have a lot of talent around him. So

1590
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 4: I think, you know, certainly through the quarter pole here,

1591
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 4: Christian McCaffrey's making the strongest case of any non quarterback

1592
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 4: in recent memory for an MVP season.

1593
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 2: And a team that averaged over thirty points a game

1594
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 2: when brock Purty started last year. They have not scored

1595
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 2: less than thirty points a game in any effort so

1596
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 2: far this year. I'm going to sort of begrudgingly agree

1597
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 2: with you with where we sit today with regard to

1598
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 2: that conversation, which I'll share with you, and it won't

1599
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 2: surprise you. This is a conversation that comes up here

1600
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 2: in San Francisco a lot, which is sort of like

1601
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,679
Speaker 2: who drives the bus, who's the most important and cog

1602
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 2: in this wheel? And you said it's McCaffrey, And I

1603
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 2: think it's hard to argue.

1604
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:07,879
Speaker 3: Against that today.

1605
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 2: However, I'll also say it's hard to argue against the

1606
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 2: opposite answer if I asked it a different way, like,

1607
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 2: if the names are on it, McCaffrey, is he more

1608
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,719
Speaker 2: important than anyone? Well, I just said he's currently the MVP.

1609
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 2: The other way to say it, though, is it's pretty

1610
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 2: hard to diminish the importance of a quarterback no matter

1611
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 2: what's around him. There's only one player who has the

1612
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 2: ball on every single play. There's only They're the highest

1613
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 2: paid players in the game for a reason, and so

1614
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 2: I get very tripped up when people say, oh, well,

1615
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 2: his stats and his record and what the forty nine

1616
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 2: ers are doing, are a product of Kyle Shanahan, great

1617
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 2: play caller, McCaffrey's over here debos, over there, kittle Ayuk

1618
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 2: best left tackle in the game. These things are all true,

1619
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 2: but he's still the quarterback with the ball on every

1620
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 2: single play, and it seems a little odd that people

1621
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 2: would try to diminish that in some sort of a way.

1622
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 2: Those deliveries still need to be on time and in

1623
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 2: the right place every play they do.

1624
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 4: But my argument to that would be, except for you're

1625
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 4: a guy who plays on a team that went thirteen

1626
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 4: and four. Now, certainly you weren't responsible for any of

1627
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 4: those four losses last year, but you still were the

1628
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:48,799
Speaker 4: third quarterback that started for that team that went thirteen

1629
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 4: and four. So clearly the starting quarterback position wasn't the

1630
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 4: cog that keeps everything together and you know, the engine

1631
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 4: behind that incredible offense. Yes, you you went undefeated as

1632
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 4: a starter, and that again, I think Rock Purty deserves

1633
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 4: a lot of credit, especially because it wasn't something that,

1634
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,600
Speaker 4: you know, a flash in the pan. He burst on

1635
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 4: the scene late last year and then fizzled out. He's

1636
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:19,120
Speaker 4: continued to get better from his first start last year

1637
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 4: to the unfortunate injury in the NFC Championship game to

1638
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 4: Week one to Week four. This year, he's becoming more

1639
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 4: and more of He's making more and more of an

1640
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 4: argument to say, like, hey, look, I'm just as big

1641
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 4: of a piece of this as Christian McCaffrey, as the

1642
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 4: left tackle, as the tight end, as the receivers. But

1643
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 4: I think it's still just too soon for him to

1644
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 4: be able to have a strong enough case because of,

1645
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 4: you know, the track record of that forty nine ers

1646
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 4: offense with so many other quarterbacks under center as well.

1647
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 2: I get it, however, that that thirteen and fourteen was

1648
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 2: was seven and four until he came along and averaging

1649
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 2: twenty three a game.

1650
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 3: And then he came along and they averaged thirty three

1651
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 3: a game.

1652
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:10,759
Speaker 2: And now again McCaffrey wasn't there for the whole time,

1653
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 2: but he had played and started a full four games

1654
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 2: prior to brock Perty's arrival last year. Look, it's an

1655
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: embarrassment of riches. I think we can all agree on that.

1656
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 2: Very very different for another great head coach in the

1657
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:30,759
Speaker 2: NFL who may have reached one of his most challenging moments.

1658
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,800
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1665
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1668
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1669
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:05,960
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1670
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 2: Kyle Rudolph. I'm Mark Ward and Kyle, I don't know

1671
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 2: a world where Zach Wilson outplays Patrick Mahomes, and I

1672
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 2: don't know if I want to live in such a world.

1673
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 2: I'm a little uncomfortable with what's happening right now. We've

1674
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:25,680
Speaker 2: got a twenty to twenty tie at the home of

1675
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 2: the Jets. And if you look at these stat lines,

1676
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 2: one quarterback is twenty three of thirty two for two

1677
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 2: sixteen with two.

1678
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:35,719
Speaker 3: Tuds no picks.

1679
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,719
Speaker 2: The other one is eight of seventeen for one hundred

1680
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 2: and thirty five one touchdown, but has been intercepted twice

1681
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 2: and largely has thrown a couple of wobblers out there.

1682
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 2: Any guests on which quarterback is.

1683
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 4: Which, Yeah, I certainly wouldn't want to live in that

1684
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 4: world either, especially one where we talked about Week one

1685
01:33:55,680 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 4: and just the way Josh Allen turned the ball up

1686
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 4: over the way he let the Jets kind of hang around,

1687
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 4: and certainly Zach Wilson didn't do anything that week to

1688
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 4: win the game. Yet here we are tonight. Patrick's doing

1689
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 4: the same thing that Josh did, turning the football over.

1690
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 4: They're letting him hang around. Now we're about halfway through

1691
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:20,759
Speaker 4: the third quarter and you've got a twenty twenty tie game,

1692
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 4: and he's getting more and more confident, like he's starting

1693
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 4: to make some decent throws. Certainly he's missed those fair

1694
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 4: share of throws tonight as well. But it's like it's

1695
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 4: just the worst thing that you can do when you're

1696
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 4: a far superior team is just let this team that

1697
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 4: you should have put away hang around to ultimately screw

1698
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 4: up and win it somehow. You know, they have one

1699
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 4: big drive or a punt return for a touchdown in

1700
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 4: overtime like Week one. So we talked about it earlier

1701
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 4: in a segment that it's time for the Chiefs to

1702
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 4: quit playing with your food here. Let's just you know,

1703
01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 4: put him away, or you're gonna give them confidence and

1704
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 4: you're gonna you're gonna have your hands full in the

1705
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 4: fourth quarter.

1706
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the way you put that.

1707
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 2: The funny thing is is the whole idea of letting

1708
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 2: another team hang around usually comes from like, ah, we

1709
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,559
Speaker 2: came out flat, we just couldn't really get it going,

1710
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 2: and the other team hung around and built confidence. The

1711
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 2: Chiefs came out and steamrolled them seventeen to nothing in

1712
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 2: the first quarter.

1713
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 3: Steamroll them.

1714
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 4: It's almost like it's almost like you fall asleep though,

1715
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:30,679
Speaker 4: like it was too easy, too early.

1716
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 3: Yep.

1717
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 4: And you know, certainly there's we all know the fair

1718
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 4: share of distractions around the Chiefs over the last week.

1719
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 4: I'll say, the extra attention, the extra storylines. And you know,

1720
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 4: here you are in New York City, Sunday night football.

1721
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 4: Every celebrity in the world, including Taylor Swift, is at

1722
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 4: the game, and boom, we're up seventeen to nothing, just

1723
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:00,639
Speaker 4: like that, and you almost forget that, Oh, we still

1724
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 4: have three and a half quarters of football left to play,

1725
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 4: and that is an NFL team across the field from us.

1726
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 4: So it's almost as if they just it was too

1727
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 4: easy for him and they just went to sleep, like,

1728
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 4: all right, this is over, We'll just coast the rest

1729
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:19,799
Speaker 4: of the way. Now here they are twenty twenty, Tie, Kyle.

1730
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 2: She looks worried. I don't know if you've seen. She

1731
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 2: looks very, very worried up in her suite right now.

1732
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 4: It's definitely not the Chicago Bears across the field and

1733
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 4: all the shots of the box that we saw last

1734
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 4: week of the whole crew up there in the suite

1735
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 4: just getting fired up for random touchdowns because Patrick Mahomes

1736
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 4: wanted to make sure that Travis Kelce scored for her

1737
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 4: first game. I'm sure the conversations are a little different

1738
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 4: on the sideline right now.

1739
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 2: Almost a million new followers on Instagram for Travis just

1740
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:52,679
Speaker 2: this week.

1741
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I mean, like I said, definitely probably not

1742
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 4: his normal week going into this game. And then you

1743
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 4: know the way it starts. You know, here we go,

1744
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:06,719
Speaker 4: we're just gonna go right down the field, Zach turns

1745
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 4: the ball over. You know, we're up seventeen to nothing.

1746
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 4: Just assuming everything's gonna just continue to play out like that,

1747
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 4: and they get a little laxataisical with the ball, turn

1748
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 4: it over a couple times, and like I said, that's

1749
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 4: an NFL team across the field from you. So if

1750
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 4: you give them opportunities short fields with turnovers, you're allowing

1751
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 4: them to hang around and just get more confidence as

1752
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,639
Speaker 4: the night goes on. And they've already shown we said

1753
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 4: earlier in the show that the Bills are kind of

1754
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 4: that other team in the AFC that can compete with

1755
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 4: the Chiefs. And now here are the Jets right there

1756
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 4: in the thick of it with the other team that

1757
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 4: they already beat this year.

1758
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. I mean it's fascinating. You never would

1759
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 2: have thought it, but they look a little shaken. And

1760
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 2: as you said, like the Jets, this is a good defense,

1761
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:00,720
Speaker 2: you know, you just the rest of that team was

1762
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 2: all in place. We all thought that this was one

1763
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 2: of the top ten teams in the NFL. And then

1764
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 2: the quarterback left. But the rest of those players, if

1765
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 2: you give them either a lead or something here in

1766
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 2: the game, that kind of gets them going, like they're

1767
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 2: all still there.

1768
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 3: The talent is on this roster.

1769
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 2: So if you give them a second half in a

1770
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 2: close game.

1771
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, this thing gets real dangerous, real fast.

1772
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 4: It does get dangerous, and it really gets dangerous when

1773
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 4: you have all of those things, and then you have

1774
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 4: a quarterback who is super talented but may not be

1775
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 4: living up to that talent. Certainly hasn't lived up to

1776
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 4: that talent over the first few years of his career,

1777
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 4: being the number two overall pick. But when you give

1778
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:52,599
Speaker 4: that guy some confidence, when you give him short fields,

1779
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 4: when you allow him to throw a couple of touchdown passes,

1780
01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 4: that's the worst thing that you can do as a

1781
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:03,599
Speaker 4: Chiefs fan, because now we're giving this guy who weak

1782
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 4: in and week out, he's just been getting bashed and

1783
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 4: his confidences through the floor. Now now all of a sudden,

1784
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 4: you're giving this guy who does have arm talent a

1785
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 4: confidence about him to go out there with all of

1786
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 4: that talent that we've talked about and all those surrounding pieces.

1787
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:25,639
Speaker 4: Now you're in. You're in for a four quarter battle

1788
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 4: to try to to try to make sure you get

1789
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,719
Speaker 4: out of there with a win after having a seventeen

1790
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 4: point lead.

1791
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:34,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell you what the afternoon session today in

1792
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 2: uh in the NFL was uh. You know, the Rams

1793
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:42,719
Speaker 2: are Raiders Chargers game got interesting. It got interesting because

1794
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 2: because Chargers. That's why it got interesting. But like it

1795
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 2: was right, it was largely games that that looked like

1796
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 2: they were under control. I kind of fell into that

1797
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 2: hazy zone like, oh, it's going to be the same

1798
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 2: thing tonight. But man, no, we've we've got we got

1799
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 2: a hell of a thing going on here and an

1800
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 2: interesting watch for sure between these two squads. But speaking

1801
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 2: of the blowouts in that afternoon session, one thing I

1802
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 2: want to get to you and we can keep doing

1803
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 2: it after Martin jumps in here as well, where are

1804
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 2: we with Bill Belichick? And and look, the man's legacy

1805
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 2: is in cement. This isn't to go down that road.

1806
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 2: But we've learned in professional sports. You know, when Phil

1807
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 2: Jackson doesn't have Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neil,

1808
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 2: it looks different. And the same thing here when when

1809
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, your teammate from last year. Same thing when

1810
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 2: when he's not there. But this thing, this was one

1811
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 2: of the worst games of Bill Belichick's coaching career. The

1812
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 2: Mac Jones thing feels like there's even more under the

1813
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 2: surface than we know. In terms of the frustration and

1814
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 2: ineptitude around that he did get pulled out of the game.

1815
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 2: Part of that was because they you know, it was decided.

1816
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 2: But and then you look up and down that division,

1817
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 2: you see the power sitting with Buffalo and Miami, and

1818
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 2: you just start to wonder where New England Patriot Bill

1819
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 2: Belichick football is right now.

1820
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because you go back over the course

1821
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 4: of the three years without Tom in New England and

1822
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 4: the first year you draft Mac Jones. I actually was

1823
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 4: in New York that year and we practiced against the

1824
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 4: Patriots before our preseason game, and at that point it

1825
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 4: was mac Jones and Cam Newton and they hadn't named

1826
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 4: a starter. They were kind of rotating who was taking

1827
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 4: the starting reps with the Ones at the time. And

1828
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 4: we practiced there in New England two days. The first day,

1829
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 4: Mac Jones took all the reps with the Ones and

1830
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 4: I ended up going back with some of the other

1831
01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 4: guys on a team after sitting around the hotel, and

1832
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 4: we like charted his practice because because you know, you're

1833
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 4: you have one field, and when the Patriots offense was

1834
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 4: going against the Giants defense, the Giants offense was on

1835
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 4: the sideline watching and the whole time, you know, we

1836
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 4: all kept looking at each other like have you seen

1837
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:14,679
Speaker 4: the ball hit the ground yet? Like has he thrown

1838
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:17,640
Speaker 4: it in completion? And we end up going back. He

1839
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 4: finished that day like thirty three of thirty five and

1840
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 4: just absolutely diced our defense up in that particular practice,

1841
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 4: and we were like, hold on a second, there's no

1842
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 4: way there's actually a quarterback competition, Like this is their guy.

1843
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 4: Like he looked like a mini Tom Brady in that

1844
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 4: court in that practice. And you know, with all that

1845
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 4: being said, he was under Josh McDaniels. He had this

1846
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 4: We've talked about the word system multiple times, like he

1847
01:42:48,040 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 4: knew exactly what he had to do to go out

1848
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 4: there to allow his team to have success, but also

1849
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 4: to allow one of the greatest head coaches and one

1850
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 4: of the greatest defense on my mind coaches do what

1851
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 4: he does, and that's keep the game close. And you know,

1852
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 4: we talked about it a little bit talking about the

1853
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 4: Chicago Bears and the fact that you can't win until

1854
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 4: you keep from losing. Well, that New England Patriots team

1855
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 4: over the last twenty five years or so has been

1856
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 4: a team that does not beat theirselves they you know,

1857
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 4: you know that when you play them, when you either

1858
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 4: go to Foxborough or they come to you, you have

1859
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 4: to beat them. They're not going to beat themselves. And unfortunately,

1860
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 4: now you know, we're looking at a one in three

1861
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 4: Patriots team that is starting to find ways to beat themselves.

1862
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:39,600
Speaker 4: And they really beat themselves today in Dallas, especially on

1863
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 4: the offensive side of the.

1864
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 2: Ball, No doubt about it. It was it was not

1865
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 2: even it was not even a game. It was not

1866
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 2: even a game. Got out of hand real quick.

1867
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 3: Okay.

1868
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 2: Balance of power among coaches in the AFC has been

1869
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 2: something that's.

1870
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 3: Been on the move a lot this.

1871
01:43:55,520 --> 01:44:00,240
Speaker 2: Year, for sure. So more on that coming up in

1872
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 2: just a moment. But let's get Mark weis in here,

1873
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:05,320
Speaker 2: find out what is trending with him.

1874
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 10: Hey, Martin, Mark Kyle, you guys just were talking about

1875
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:09,600
Speaker 10: Bill Belichick. Well, he's been a head coach in the

1876
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 10: NFL for twenty four years. That's only five years shorter

1877
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 10: than I've been alive. And he's never took an ass

1878
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:18,120
Speaker 10: whooping like this Dallas beating New England thirty eight to three.

1879
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:21,719
Speaker 10: Dran played with the pick six. Matthew Judon reportedly suffered

1880
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 10: a lower bicep tendentire unsure currently how much time he'll miss.

1881
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 10: He's getting a MRI today. Had four sacks on the year.

1882
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 10: Mac Jones, like you just said, he hit the bench

1883
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 10: in the second half, but Belichick said without a doubt

1884
01:44:32,600 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 10: Jones is the starter in his postgame interview. More late

1885
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 10: afternoon game scores, the Khalil Mack had six sacks as

1886
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 10: the Chargers improved a two to two with a twenty

1887
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 10: four to seventeen win over the Raiders. Christian McCaffrey four touchdowns.

1888
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 10: That's a career high. He scored a touchdown in thirteen

1889
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:52,599
Speaker 10: straight games, including the playoffs, as tying Jerry Rice's franchise record.

1890
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 10: As the forty nine Ers role the Cardinals thirty five

1891
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 10: to six, and the Chiefs jumped out to a seventeen

1892
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 10: and nothing leader. But it's like a freaky Friday situation

1893
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 10: going on here. Zach Wilson has two touchdown passes a

1894
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 10: scramble to convert a two point conversion. The Chiefs and

1895
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 10: the Jets now tie at twenty a piece with four

1896
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 10: point thirty left in the third quarter. Swifties everywhere shaking

1897
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 10: their boots as Mahomes has not looked good today two

1898
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 10: interceptions for Patrick Mahomes, and I figured maybe maybe Zach

1899
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 10: Wilson heard the news that broke pregame. Aaron Rodgers told

1900
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 10: NBC's Melissa Stark he intends to play this season after

1901
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 10: suffering achilles injury in week one. And I first heard

1902
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 10: this and thought it impossible. But I saw a video

1903
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 10: today of him walking around on them crutches. He's got

1904
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:38,719
Speaker 10: weight bearing on the foot. I don't know. Maybe modern

1905
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 10: medicine has advanced further than we all knew.

1906
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 4: But back to you, guys, Mark, Kyle.

1907
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark, I tell you even just watching him watch

1908
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:48,600
Speaker 2: this game. And I know, Kyle, we already sort of

1909
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,680
Speaker 2: discussed this, and you seem to maybe be, you know,

1910
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 2: be open to believing this even.

1911
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:54,599
Speaker 3: More than me. But I'll tell you this.

1912
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,640
Speaker 2: I've had friends who have had the popped achilles and

1913
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:02,440
Speaker 2: you watch them go through what that looks like in

1914
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 2: the next few weeks. The difficulty in getting from point

1915
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:10,679
Speaker 2: A to point B, the gizmos that are on your leg,

1916
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:13,719
Speaker 2: the crutch is like, how difficult it is to move around.

1917
01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:17,559
Speaker 2: Aaron is in the suite with his leg up on

1918
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 2: the chair in front of him, and he sort of

1919
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 2: just looks like, yeah, it twisted an ankle, That's what

1920
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 2: he looks like. He just looks like it's wrapped, like

1921
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:30,679
Speaker 2: you know, I got a little auchy, and but here

1922
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 2: I am. But again, no one's hit no one's there

1923
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:33,719
Speaker 2: with him, no one's helping him around.

1924
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 3: It's like, what on earth.

1925
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:38,080
Speaker 2: I still don't get it. I don't know if I

1926
01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:39,960
Speaker 2: believe it, but I certainly don't get it.

1927
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 4: And that's exactly what I thought when I saw him

1928
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 4: walking around pregame. You know, it looks like he has

1929
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 4: like a little brace on that lower leg, you know,

1930
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 4: had a high ankle sprain or something. Even guys that

1931
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 4: have high ankle sprains look like they're moving around more

1932
01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 4: gingerly than he was on the field in pregame, and

1933
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 4: look like they're in more discomfort sitting in the suite

1934
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Speaker 4: than he does tonight. And yeah, like I said earlier,

1935
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 4: we got to get a hold of doctor Latrodge and

1936
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Speaker 4: see what the heck he did during that surgery or

1937
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Speaker 4: how he actually fixed that achilles. Because you know, one

1938
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 4: of my good friends that I grew up with, he

1939
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 4: was we played basketball and football together and he ended

1940
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:24,599
Speaker 4: up playing college basketball and he typical thirty five year

1941
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 4: old that pops in Achilles in Church League. You know,

1942
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 4: we all have those buddies, And so he popped in

1943
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 4: Achilles like back in December, and you know, he came

1944
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 4: down for our playoff game against Dallas in January and

1945
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:41,360
Speaker 4: he's in the walking boot. You know, that's a full

1946
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 4: month after his surgery. He wasn't getting around as good

1947
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 4: as Aeron's getting around now, and then taking a step

1948
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Speaker 4: further a month later. We were down here in Florida

1949
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 4: and we played golf after the season ended in February,

1950
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 4: and you know he was hardly getting through the golf

1951
01:47:57,080 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 4: ball with that, you know, two month prior ter Achilles.

1952
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Speaker 4: But his his was just a partial tear like we

1953
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:09,839
Speaker 4: all saw Aaron's completely rupture on national television. Like Aarons

1954
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:12,679
Speaker 4: wasn't a little partial tear that they could say, oh well,

1955
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Speaker 4: you know, well we'll let it scar down and then

1956
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 4: you'll you'll be okay. His is a complete rupture that

1957
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Speaker 4: like you said, it looks like he just has a

1958
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 4: little aUI out there and he'll be back in a

1959
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Speaker 4: month or two.

1960
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Speaker 2: It's wild, man, It's absolutely wild. We're in the tyreq

1961
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Speaker 2: dot Com studios Mark will and Kyle Rudolph here on

1962
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Week four National Football League, and we're

1963
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 2: talking it out. And while we're on Belichick, you know,

1964
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 2: we might want to mention who I sort of feel

1965
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 2: is his counterpart in the AFC. And and maybe I'm

1966
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 2: leaving John Harbaugh out of this conversation, but for those

1967
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 2: of us who have been watching football for the last

1968
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 2: two decades, it just feels like there's two things from

1969
01:48:57,160 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 2: the coaching ranks in the AFC that you can count on,

1970
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 2: and that is that in the end, Bill Belichick's going

1971
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 2: to be there and and Mike Tomlin's going to be there.

1972
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:12,639
Speaker 2: That's that's the normalcy. That's the measure of success. And look,

1973
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 2: the Steelers are only two and two, not a disastrous

1974
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 2: start at all in their division, especially with Cleveland getting

1975
01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 2: the beat down with Deshaun Watson out today and the

1976
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 2: start that Cincinnati has had. But Kenny Pickett left the

1977
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 2: game today and was immediately announced out. It did not

1978
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 2: look good and he went looking all that hot.

1979
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Speaker 3: To begin with.

1980
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Speaker 2: And it it just feels to me, Kyle, like the

1981
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 2: whole AFC is in the midst Yes, there's still Andy Reid,

1982
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:47,959
Speaker 2: we get that completely but it feels like the balance

1983
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 2: of power in the of the guard has finally arrived.

1984
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Speaker 3: That's what it feels like.

1985
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Speaker 4: It does. We I don't know if it was last

1986
01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 4: week or two weeks ago, but we talked about those

1987
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:05,120
Speaker 4: AFC coaches and Bill Belichick and Mike Tomlin and the

1988
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:08,839
Speaker 4: fact that they had a Hall of Fame quarterback for

1989
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 4: so long. And you know, for Mike Tomlin, I don't

1990
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:14,599
Speaker 4: know if it's his seventeenth or eighteenth year. Well, however

1991
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 4: many years he's been the head coach at the Pittsburgh Steelers,

1992
01:50:17,479 --> 01:50:20,000
Speaker 4: he's never had a losing record, which I don't care

1993
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,439
Speaker 4: who your quarterback is and how long you've had him

1994
01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:26,639
Speaker 4: as your quarterback. That's incredible, especially the last few years

1995
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:31,280
Speaker 4: when you look at the quarterbacks that he's had post Ben,

1996
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 4: and you know, certainly Ben did not stay healthy like

1997
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:37,800
Speaker 4: Tom did throughout his entire career in New England. So

1998
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 4: the thing that you could always count on in Pittsburgh

1999
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 4: was that defense and the way the defense plays. And

2000
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 4: you know, he watched Mike Tomlin's press conference after the game,

2001
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 4: and you know he addresses it head on. He's like,

2002
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:53,280
Speaker 4: if we want things to change, if we want different results.

2003
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 4: We have to make the changes. We can't keep doing

2004
01:50:56,160 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 4: the same things and expect different results. So certainly everyone

2005
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh and around that organization are awaiting the results

2006
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 4: of Kenny Pickett's MRI because I do believe Kenny gives

2007
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 4: them a chance to compete in that division. He showed

2008
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 4: incredible improvement throughout preseason, had had a lot of really

2009
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 4: really clean drives and clean appearances in the preseason, which

2010
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 4: for me, when I'm looking at a young quarterback, that's

2011
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:27,800
Speaker 4: all I care about in the preseason. And you know

2012
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 4: it until today, and certainly he went down with the injury,

2013
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Speaker 4: you felt like Pittsburgh was a team that could hang

2014
01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:37,680
Speaker 4: around in that division. But now you look at Baltimore

2015
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Speaker 4: and I think John Harball is another one who's kind

2016
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Speaker 4: of been a mainstay in that AFC, A guy who

2017
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Speaker 4: has won a Super Bowl and you know, has done

2018
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Speaker 4: it very heavily on the defensive side of the ball

2019
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Speaker 4: as well. But you look at them at three and

2020
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Speaker 4: one in the AFC North, the ball that they're playing

2021
01:51:57,479 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 4: in a division that who knows what the other three

2022
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 4: you're gonna do with. With Deshaun Watson being hurt, Miles

2023
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 4: Garrett left the game and was in a walking boot today.

2024
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 4: So it's certainly an interesting division, and the powers that

2025
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 4: be in the AFC are not what they weren't were.

2026
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Speaker 2: All that said, there was I thought today another example

2027
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 2: that teaches us a very clear lesson that I want

2028
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 2: to make sure we talk about tonight. And if you're

2029
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 2: listening to us, put it in your hip pocket, because

2030
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 2: you're not gonna need it this year, but you'll need

2031
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 2: it next August. You're gonna need this next August. I'll

2032
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 2: tell you what I'm talking about. Come it up next

2033
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 2: with Kyle Rudolph mark Ward on Fox Sports Radio.

2034
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Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2035
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Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

2036
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2037
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Speaker 5: listen live.

2038
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Speaker 6: Parkcap Back Wilson in the shotgun. Michael Carter two is right,

2039
01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 6: takes the snap, drops back, looks left, pros in to.

2040
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Speaker 1: The ends up good Hell and Lazzard.

2041
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:12,879
Speaker 6: That's a Jet touchdown a rifle shot from Sack Wilson.

2042
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 6: He finds Lazard and the Jets will go for two

2043
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 6: to try and tie the game down at one point

2044
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 6: seventeen to nothing. To two point, try to tie the game.

2045
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Speaker 6: Sack Wilson takes the snap, drops back, quarterback, Draw takes

2046
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:29,639
Speaker 6: a m mess runs, Phillis left dive.

2047
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 4: Put the goal.

2048
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:32,439
Speaker 2: One breaches the ball out He's got it.

2049
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:34,439
Speaker 6: Zach Wilson breaks the plane.

2050
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Speaker 4: The Jets score two.

2051
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:43,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you heard right on Jets Radio. That's Zach Wilson

2052
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 2: out there making plays. And the game remains tied in

2053
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:50,439
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Speaker 2: Mark Weather, Kyle Rudolph Live Tyrak dot com studios. The

2059
01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 2: Chiefs are lining up for a field goal effort that

2060
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:14,679
Speaker 2: would unbreak that tie.

2061
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Speaker 3: Just under eleven minutes to go in the game.

2062
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 2: Harrison Butker is good from twenty six yards, so the

2063
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 2: Chiefs are back in front. Will keep you posted with

2064
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 2: the rest of the time that we have. Lef and

2065
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:30,520
Speaker 2: Arnie and Chris are standing by as well to continue

2066
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:35,680
Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday into the late evening look, we were

2067
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 2: just talking about Kenny Pickett, and I do agree with

2068
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 2: you that Kenny Pickett is a young player who I think,

2069
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 2: you know, there's some good, there's some bad there. When

2070
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 2: the Steelers in forty nine, Ers were about to play

2071
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 2: on opening weekend, there was a Steelers podcast that reached out.

2072
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:56,680
Speaker 3: To me and asked me to come on as a guest.

2073
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 2: And one of the things they asked me, they said,

2074
01:54:58,320 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 2: if you're going to take one of these young core

2075
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:03,320
Speaker 2: for the next five years, which one would you take?

2076
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 3: Picket or Party?

2077
01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:07,839
Speaker 2: And obviously, everybody all jumped into their little biased holes

2078
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, I understand why you're asking,

2079
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 2: and you know, but here's why I would pick Party.

2080
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:19,440
Speaker 3: And they were like, yeah, the right answer is Picket, obviously.

2081
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 2: And the reason they felt that way was largely because

2082
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 2: Pickett had a perfect preseason. That's a lot of peas,

2083
01:55:30,240 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 2: by the way, but Pickett had a perfect preseason. They

2084
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:37,520
Speaker 2: scored a touchdown on every one of his drives. He

2085
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 2: looked fantastic. You know who else looked fantastic in the preseason.

2086
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:49,960
Speaker 2: Dorian Thompson Robinson dtr who today came in for the

2087
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns and had as many interceptions as points. And

2088
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 2: this is not to take shots at young quarterbacks by

2089
01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 2: any stretch. We'll see where they're careers go. There are

2090
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 2: many chapters left to be written. But for the love

2091
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 2: of it, next August, can we all please remember that

2092
01:56:13,520 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 2: the preseason.

2093
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 4: Is just that, it's not.

2094
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 2: It's not regular season football. So yes, there are examples.

2095
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott like, yes, I'm not saying it doesn't matter

2096
01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 2: at all, Kyle, how would you describe it, the difference

2097
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 2: between the preseason and the regular season.

2098
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:36,480
Speaker 4: Well, in the previous segment I talked about Kenny Pickett

2099
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 4: looking extremely clean in the preseason and doing what he

2100
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 4: was supposed to do. When you go out and you

2101
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 4: play in the preseason. I used to tell people this

2102
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:49,800
Speaker 4: all the time, Like we would go play the first

2103
01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:54,200
Speaker 4: preseason game of the year. We knew in that preseason

2104
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 4: game we got to play as the starting offense one series.

2105
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:02,360
Speaker 4: You knew that if you went out on the field

2106
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 4: and went down the field, clean football, consistent, run the ball,

2107
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 4: execute on third down, sustain a drive, you are getting

2108
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 4: off the field in one drive if you did it right.

2109
01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:18,240
Speaker 4: And then the second game we might get two drives.

2110
01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:21,160
Speaker 4: We might get to play the first quarter and depending

2111
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Speaker 4: on how those go, the third game. Back when we

2112
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 4: used to have four, maybe we got to play the

2113
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:30,600
Speaker 4: whole first half most of the time. If we had

2114
01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 4: a preseason like Kenny Pickett and the Steelers starting offense

2115
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 4: had you go touchdown drive, touchdown drive, touchdown drive, you're

2116
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:41,040
Speaker 4: probably not seeing the field again for the rest of

2117
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 4: the preseason because the offensive coordinator, the head coach, everybody

2118
01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:48,520
Speaker 4: in the organization has seen what they need to see.

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01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 4: You're ready to go for the season. The opposite of

2120
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:56,240
Speaker 4: that is, you know, guys that are playing late in

2121
01:57:56,320 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 4: the game. Mike Zimmer used to joke at times in

2122
01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 4: the preseason, I can't tell you how many preseason games

2123
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:07,320
Speaker 4: we won, you know, late in the game because you know,

2124
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:09,920
Speaker 4: we may not have played well, or the starting defense

2125
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 4: may not have played well, but we were able to

2126
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:15,400
Speaker 4: rally late in the game. And he would joke around

2127
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:17,800
Speaker 4: as we watched the film the next day, like, that's great.

2128
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:20,040
Speaker 4: You guys came back against a bunch of guys who

2129
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:21,840
Speaker 4: are gonna be working at seven to eleven in a

2130
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:25,120
Speaker 4: couple of weeks, but they're not gonna be playing on Sundays.

2131
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:29,480
Speaker 4: So when you look at Dorian Thompson Robinson and his

2132
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:33,840
Speaker 4: success in the preseason, Well, who was it against? Was

2133
01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 4: it against guys who are currently playing on Sundays in

2134
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:43,800
Speaker 4: the NFL? Or like Kenny Pickett and the Steelers starters

2135
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 4: who played against other starters early in preseason games. To me,

2136
01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:50,040
Speaker 4: that's how you have to look at the preseason. You

2137
01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 4: can't just you can't just go off of, oh, well,

2138
01:58:52,440 --> 01:58:55,160
Speaker 4: this guy had a great preseason, so he's gonna be

2139
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 4: having a great regular season. Or he's a young quarterback

2140
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 4: that's ready to play because he had a good preseason.

2141
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, like it means something. I would

2142
01:59:05,920 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 2: never just flick it and dismiss the whole process. It's

2143
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:14,880
Speaker 2: it's evaluation, it's it's all of that. But by the

2144
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Speaker 2: same token, to translate that into snap your fingers immediate

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Speaker 2: success in the NFL always feels a little bit funny

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Speaker 2: to me. Hey, I wonder next week, are you ready

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Speaker 2: to just host the entire show by yourself?

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Speaker 3: Do you do feel ready to do that?

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Speaker 10: Uh?

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Speaker 4: No, not yet. I'm still in my rookie year of

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Speaker 4: broadcasting here.

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Speaker 2: So reason I asked, well, listen, you're you're obviously fantastic

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Speaker 2: at this, but I just want to remind everyone that

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Speaker 2: when you and I get back here next week, uh,

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers will be playing the Cowboys in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the game.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to say about my performance before

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Speaker 2: it even happens, Like it might just be a wee

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Speaker 2: bit distracted as possible.

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Speaker 4: Well, we'll make sure that you know you can throw

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Speaker 4: me up some softballs and then make sure you have

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Speaker 4: the game on the background. Maybe we just talk about

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Speaker 4: that game the whole time. We don't have to talk

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Speaker 4: about the other fourteen games from the day of football.

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Speaker 2: We could do a Rudolph cast Yes, instead of a

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Speaker 2: Manning cast, let's do a Rudolph cast Man. Great job,

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Speaker 2: great stuff is always can't wait to talk to you

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Speaker 2: in a week. Yes, Arnie and Chris coming up. That's

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Speaker 2: it for us on Fox Sports Radio.