1 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: So this is our very first podcast we've ever done. 2 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: This is it for starting brand new called What in 3 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: the Winkler. I'm Zoe Winkler and my mom Stacy Winkler, 4 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: and I are going to be coming together every week 5 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: to discuss very important things, hugely important, groundbreaking things together 6 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: and I'm so excited. But I think we should like 7 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about who we are so that 8 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: people know who we are and they don't just refer 9 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: to us as Okay, Henry Winkler's daughter and wife, the daughter. Yeah, 10 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: should I start? Yeah, start, Okay, tell us about you, Okay. 11 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: My life is that I was born and raised in 12 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: Los Angeles. I have lived so many places in my 13 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: life it's just hard to keep track. Which is a 14 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: joke to say that I have lived here in Los 15 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: Angeles for one hundred and ninety seven years and my 16 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: whole family is here, even though it's crazy and filled 17 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: with traffic and everything. That's just the way it is. 18 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: I actually grew up less than a mile from where 19 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: I live today, and I went to elementary school less 20 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: than a mile from where I am today, Junior high 21 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: school way less than a mile, and then high school, 22 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: and then I made my great leap at going on 23 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: the freeway to the University of Southern California, Go Trojans. 24 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: When I started college. 25 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: Who was there? When you were there? And what did 26 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: he call you? 27 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: Oj? Was there? 28 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: And what did he call you? 29 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: Texas Red? I'm not quite sure, but I could have 30 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: been using Western accent. I'm not sure. But it was 31 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: a crazy, crazy time. And from there I met. 32 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: Your first husband. 33 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: Well I wasn't going to refer to him as that, 34 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: but I guess that was the end result. So my 35 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: first husband, who I cannot say enough about. He was 36 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: the most incredible person in the world, clearly not for 37 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: a first husband, but as a dear friend and as 38 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: like a brother. 39 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think people know that my mom was 40 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: married before to this incredible man named Howard Whitesman who's 41 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: passed away. But they had my older brother Jed. Yes, 42 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: they were married for three years, is that right? 43 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: Well, all together it was that huge number of five oh. 44 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: Five years, and after they got divorced and they both 45 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: moved on and met and married the people that they 46 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: would be with for you know, over forty years. They 47 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: became best best best friends. So our families kind of 48 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: like all melded into one, the Whitesman's and the Winklers, 49 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: and we spend every holiday together to this day, with. 50 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: The Whitesman's as well. And plus I never wanted to 51 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: do like, oh, this year you're at your father's and 52 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: this year is my year. 53 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: That takes a lot of confidence. 54 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: And you know what, tell you what it took. What 55 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: it took was I think number one. I was the 56 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: one who left. Howard was the most extraordinary person ever, 57 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,559 Speaker 2: and to this day, his wife, Margaret. 58 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: You guys are like sister wives, but we call. 59 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: Each other's sister wives, and it is our real family. Yeah, 60 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: that is our family. 61 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a second mom to me, more like a 62 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: sister because she's a lot younger. 63 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: Yes, she's you know, she is younger. 64 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: Okay, But so so you got divorced, Howard met Margaret, 65 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: and then you, oh, wait, tell the story about when 66 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: Howard and Margaret started dating and you saw her driving 67 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: on Sunset Boulevard. 68 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: I didn't really think it was a prob. 69 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: It's an excellent story. Tell the story. 70 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: I don't know the whole story. Apparently I asked her 71 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: to pull over for and you said, tell Howard, I 72 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: need diapers. I guess I did. Apparently. Now I don't 73 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: want to sound this way because but. 74 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: Did you really need diaper's mom? 75 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: Of course, Why would I have pulled her off just 76 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: to be a bitch? No, because I think Jed was 77 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: coming back to me. 78 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: Oh okay, well she was scared shitless though we know 79 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: that to be true. 80 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: You know what, I. 81 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: Should have her on the she needs to come on 82 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: to tell Mario the real unveiled Stacy Waite. That's right, 83 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: that's right. 84 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: Margaret is fantastic and we traveled together. That was aside 85 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: from our oldest son, Jed, that was and Howard, that 86 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: was the best thing that happened. And Margaret, her name 87 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: is Margaret Weitzman, and we will have her come. 88 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd amazing. 89 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: She's a scream. When I left, Howard, I was not 90 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: working at the time, and you were going right, yes, right, 91 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: And in social work you had a three year old son, Zoe. 92 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: I had a three year old son. My parents were 93 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: extremely helpful, and someone said to me, why don't you 94 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: do kind of what you've been doing all your life 95 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: and put people together connector as we call that, so 96 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: put people together and introduce people to each other. Stuff 97 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: like that. And because I'd been born and raised here, 98 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: it was very easy for me to do until the 99 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: lady I was working for asked me to start picking 100 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: up her dog on a daily basis. And she was lovely. 101 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: She gave me a chance, she really did. But when I. 102 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Said, no, I will not pick up your dog. I 103 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: will start my. 104 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: Own pubb No, No, I did not say that. 105 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: Okay, what'd you say? 106 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: I said, you know what, Joan, I think I need 107 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: to be home earlier for my son. And I love 108 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: what I'm doing for you. You've taught me everything. You're 109 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: so smart. And she was a real crusty kind of 110 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: old gal. Her name was Joan Luther, and she'd be hey, 111 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: baby Joanie. You know she was like, let's just say 112 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: there was We were polar opposites, and she'd come right 113 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: off the tennis court. She weighed six pounds. Are you 114 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: that you? 115 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: Are you confused to you? 116 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: No? No, Joan, she had a collar up. She was 117 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: baby love, baby dauface. Anyway, it was a lot of 118 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: that stuff, and a lot of mentioning of names, because 119 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: that's what you did when you did pr in those days. 120 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: But I ended up doing more fashion work anyway, was 121 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: great you had good clients. I had very good clients, 122 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: Dan cle Van Cleef, I had I Magnin, I had No, 123 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: I had Jerry Magnet. 124 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: Okay, but his store was I Magnan. 125 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: No, that was this isn't that. 126 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: Where you and dad met? 127 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: Do you want to keep up with the pace and 128 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: let me finish. Jed, my oldest son. Jed was having 129 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 2: a fourth birthday. I asked him because for his prior 130 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: birthdays such a long history we had been doing like whoever. 131 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: He liked on his birthday cake like a little figure, 132 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: an action figure or something. And I said, what do 133 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: you want on your birthday this year? And he said, 134 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: I want the six million dollar man and the fonds. 135 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 2: I said, okay, and off I headed to the bakery 136 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: and ordered. They had a great Lee majors and fhnsie. 137 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: That was in June, June twenty sixth and then I 138 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 2: met Henry in August. Jerry was my client, Jerry Magnut 139 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: And actually this really dates us. He is the person 140 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: who brought Ralph Lauren to California. That is a thousand 141 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: years ago. Henry was there shopping and I would meet 142 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: with Jerry on Saturdays. Jerry said, that's who you should 143 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: go out with? And I said who is that? And 144 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 2: he said it's the fonns And I said, oh my god, 145 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: my son had Fhnsie on his birthday cake. Anyway, blah blah. 146 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: Henry came up to me. He held up two jackets. 147 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: He said which one do you think? And he finds 148 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: it very necessary to poke a lot of fun at this. 149 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 2: He said which jacket should I get? And obviously, because 150 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 2: they were both cute and he was adorbs, I said 151 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: get both. 152 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: I know that's so you, I think. I don't think 153 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: he pokes fun at it. It's such a you statement, 154 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: like most people would buy one jacket, but you would 155 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: never like you would always buy both. Well, no, if 156 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: I him if I could, and he could because he 157 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: was the fond at that move love. 158 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: He was the far doing well. And Dad said no, 159 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: I could never get to it once. I could never 160 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: so judgment. Hello, I didn't notice, but I thought it 161 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: was adorable, but it was in fact judgment And anyway, 162 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: to make a very long story short, I then went 163 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: out with Daddy. My parents were in Europe. I was 164 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: staying at their house with Jed. Henry walked to the 165 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: front door, rang the bell. Jed answered, I said, go answer, 166 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: you can answer, because Fansie's gonna pick me, pick you up. 167 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 2: And its poor, poor fragile child opened the front door 168 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: like you know, like he was the host of the 169 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: Olympics and said hi, you Funds, And Henry said to him, hello, 170 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: my name is Henry. Would you like it if I 171 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: called you Ralph? Now it wasn't that he was mean. 172 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: It was just that Henry was very, very various, hell 173 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 2: bent on not being type cast, especially by three year 174 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: old by four year old career then that was career 175 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 2: series aside, everyone at the West La Montessori School would 176 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: have already put mush judgment on. But anyway, so that's 177 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: how we met. And later in life, as Henry has 178 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: become able to take himself less seriously and being so 179 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: kind of Germanic in his way, he understood that he 180 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: had just by saying that little line sentence Jed for 181 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: a year of intense therapy for a lifetime. Let me say, 182 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: but you didn't understand the magnitude of Dad's celebrity at 183 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: that time, like you didn't understand how famous he was. No, 184 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: that is the truth. I did not, and because I 185 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: was working full time, and I, you know, often would 186 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: get home late in the night. I really, I had 187 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: no clue. I guess I was probably you know, being 188 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: a little bitchy, like you know, who cares you are 189 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: taking yourself so seriously. And it had nothing to do 190 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 2: with that. It was like nothing I had ever experienced. 191 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: I didn't know because I had not seen the show. 192 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: I knew his name. 193 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: She was just aiming for Mick Jagger. 194 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: I had bigger fish to fry. The most important thing. 195 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: You know, as a kid growing up here, never and 196 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: I mean never, never, never go out with anyone in 197 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: the entertained in business. Ever. It was considered an extremely 198 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 2: unstable business. 199 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: It was I believe you said those same words to 200 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: me when I married Rob because at the time he 201 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: was an actor. And now look, yes, well we're thriving. 202 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: You're thriving because he's no longer an actor. Let's be honest, jiving. No, 203 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it is just not something you do, especially 204 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: if you've grown up around this stuff. 205 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: Wait and tell about when you guys went to the movies. 206 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: I didn't understand because I knew people. I went to 207 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: some of my girls. 208 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: You're an LA girl, you knew famous people. 209 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: I did. I knew people whose parents were famous, but 210 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: it wasn't like I was going out with their parents. 211 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: But I knew like people who's like the tour bus 212 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: would stop in front of their house and we'd be 213 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: playing in the backyard. Right. So Henry had said something 214 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: and I said, let's go to a movie. And he said, well, 215 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: that might be a little difficult, and I thought, here 216 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: we go, another actor taking himself too seriously. And I just, 217 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: I literally had no idea. And so we went to 218 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: the movies and he said, why don't we just sit 219 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: far in the back, And I said, can't we just 220 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: sit in the middle like normal human beings and just 221 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: watch the movie? And of course Henry said, sure, no problem, judgment, 222 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: but sure, no problem. And so we sat down in 223 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: the seats, and every human being in the entire theater 224 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 2: stood up and came over and moved to our seats 225 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: to chit chat with Henry. And they did chitchat with Henry. 226 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: Because Henry loves people. Yah loves loves anyone everyone. He 227 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: genuinely loves people. And I am a little bit shy 228 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: and a little bit retiring, and it's more of a 229 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: effort for me, but I knew. When we got home 230 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: that night to my mother's house. I wrote on a 231 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: little piece of paper and put it in my mother's 232 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: jewelry box that I was going to marry Henry. 233 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: So, now, how long have you guys been married? 234 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: Forty seven? Maybe? Well I'm forty four, okay, So wait, 235 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 2: we got married in nineteen seventy eight, seventy eight, so. 236 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: Forty forty six years. 237 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: Forty six years are because I'm forty four and I 238 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: was born in nineteen eighty Okay, So then this year 239 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: it'll be forty eight years or forty seven I. 240 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: Don't know, But who cares. 241 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: But let's just say a long ass time. That's true, 242 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 2: and a wonderful time, but a long time. 243 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: Did Dad care that you had a son? 244 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: You know what? I think that it was so much 245 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 2: a part of the conversation at the beginning. And let 246 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 2: me say this, if he cared in a negative way, 247 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: I would never have known. And Daddy's parents could not 248 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: have been lovelier and his entire family could not have 249 00:17:54,640 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: been more welcoming. If you're saying, would they have preferred 250 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 2: he marry a hallowed virgin with no children, I'd say 251 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: I'd say probably yes. 252 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: I feel like you and dad both always wanted to 253 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: be parents. Is that right? Did you always want to 254 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: be a mom? 255 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: I always wanted to be a mom. That was the 256 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: only thing I ever wanted to be was a lawyer. 257 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: And that was not like with a passion, but my 258 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 2: passion was the thought of not having children never once 259 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: entered my mind. Never, never, never. And you can tell 260 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: by what a fabulous mother it was and what a 261 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: laugh riot we had all growing up. Yeah, it was 262 00:18:58,760 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: so fun. 263 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay, let's talk about me and my birth 264 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: because that's the best. I feel like that's just like, 265 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: who wouldn't want to talk about that? Okay, that was 266 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: the best day of your life? 267 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 2: Is the best day except for the day that Jed 268 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: had been born. But it was totally unbelievable, and Daddy 269 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: was like a crazy he was so excited about your birth. 270 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: I had been in the bath soaking, and we knew 271 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: we were going to go to the hospital that night. 272 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: So then we woke Jed out of bed. He had 273 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: put out his little overalls and everything. He jumped out 274 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: of the Jed was nine when I yeah, we said 275 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: it's time, and he promptly put both legs into one 276 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: leg of the overalls tripped himself fell down, and then 277 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 2: as we were on the way to the hospital, he 278 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: was so beside himself and so excited, and then he said, 279 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: but when we bring her back home with us, for sure, 280 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 2: that's the plan. 281 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: It was just adorable. 282 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: And then when we got to the hospital, my parents 283 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: were there to take care of Jed and watch him 284 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: until Zoe was born, and it was just the best. 285 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: And when Zoe was born, it was like a happening. 286 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 2: It was like the tracks. I feel it was big. 287 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 2: It was a big deal. And I kept thinking who 288 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: sent this pillow? Who is this blanket sent? From not 289 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 2: having a clue. One of the things that your dad 290 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: has always felt very strongly about is his fans, and 291 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: so he loves them, he just does, and they love him. 292 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: And also when there is someone on television as opposed 293 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: to someone in a movie, because they're in your home, 294 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: you feel like you know them. Yeah, you feel like 295 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: they're you know. So I'm in my pajamas, I'm watching 296 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 2: him on TV. You know, I mean, it's very intimate. 297 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: It was unbelievable when you were born, there were it 298 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: was like a national holiday, and somehow that was how 299 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 2: you always thought of your birth. Yeah, that's true, as 300 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: in fact, in fact, it just passed. 301 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: You know, it's so much last month and. 302 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: It was a national holiday. Zoe is a force and 303 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: a trip and unlike anyone you will ever meet, I 304 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 2: am the luckiest person in the world. They have a 305 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 2: daughter like her. I will, however, say she has a 306 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: tad of a temper, just a tad. And when she 307 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: has a temper. 308 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: It's a little difficult. But it doesn't really affect you. 309 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: It affects Dad way more. He gets very anxious when 310 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: I get angry, but you don't. 311 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: Really it affects me so much and I cry now, 312 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: Daddy is is just afraid of you? And let me say, 313 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: as is the world in general, because when this one 314 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 2: is on a tear, you best move out of the 315 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: way immediately. It's like she, I mean, we brutalize her, 316 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,719 Speaker 2: But we do. We do brutalize her because sometimes it 317 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: is a little like walking on eggs. Takes one to 318 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: know one, Bibe certainly does. But so let's hear a 319 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 2: little bit about you. At what age did you realize 320 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 2: that your life was kind of different than other kids? Okay, 321 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 2: that's enough, now kidding JK. I don't know. 322 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's funny because recently my dad 323 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: wrote an autobiography and so many of the memories and 324 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: when you know, I heard him speak, he did a 325 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: book to her and I went to the LA stop 326 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: and it was so incredible how much he's accomplished in 327 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: his life and all of these insane experiences and memories 328 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: and remembering all of those things and living through them 329 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: were two very different things. And so you know, when 330 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: you're young and this is all you know, it just 331 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: felt like a very normal life. Growing up. We always 332 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: had dinner together every night Monday through Thursday at five o'clock. 333 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 1: Five point thirty six was very late, and since Dad 334 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: was working, you know, on a sitcom, he was home 335 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: for dinner except for when he taped, and we would 336 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: go to that. I think it was Friday nights, right 337 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: Friday nights, and. 338 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 2: We took all the kids, like Zoe. I was breastfeeding 339 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: Zoe in the audience while we were watching Henry on 340 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 2: his show. Yeah, I mean, each child went that was 341 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: that was our life. Yeah, I mean, I don't remember 342 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: that part, but I do remember, you know, it was 343 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: always very different, but I didn't understand, So we would 344 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: walk somewhere and everybody would stare, And to this day, 345 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: you cannot walk down the street with this man without 346 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: everyone staring. And it's funny because now my kids are 347 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: starting to understand what it's like and what does it 348 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 2: feel like for them. 349 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: Well, I mean they all are very different. Like Ace, 350 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: you know, he's the oldest, and he kind of just 351 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: like doesn't really know what to do with it. Jules 352 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: definitely likes it. Gus is obsessed with it and apparently 353 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: told everybody at school in first grade and brought in 354 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: Dad's books and did a full show and tell when 355 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 1: it was not a show and tell day, and you know, 356 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: like it's just but it was. But you know, at 357 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: the time, especially when you're a kid, you're so focused 358 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: on yourself that you don't realize that there's something bigger 359 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: than you. So everyone's staring and you think it's at you. 360 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: And then as you get older, you get more self conscious, 361 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: so that makes it a little bit tougher. I remember 362 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: getting frustrated because Dad and I would be in a 363 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: conversation and somebody would come up to him. I remember 364 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: when we were at his parents' funeral in the middle 365 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: of like the funeral, somebody came over and I was 366 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: crying and I was like, excuse me, can you just wait, 367 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: like we're at a funeral. And Dad was frustrated at 368 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: me because he's always put his kids first, no matter what, 369 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: like if and so of you. Anytime we call, no 370 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: matter where you are in the world, it's always if 371 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: it's one of your children, you know, you speak immediately 372 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: to us, and so does Dad. No matter what. He 373 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: could be filming, it could be doing anything, he could 374 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: be on a talk show. He answers his phone like 375 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: if it's one of us. But it was hard, like 376 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: when you'd be having this moment and you'd be walking 377 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: down the street and people would just stop you. And 378 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: I remember I was frustrated one time and Dad said 379 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: to me, like everything you have in this life is 380 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: because of these people. So the school that you're able 381 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: to go to, the house that you're able to live in, 382 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: you know when I was sixteen, the car that you have, 383 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: like all of that is a gift from the people 384 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: because they invest their time and their energy into me, 385 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: and I'm able to provide for our family. So these people, 386 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, are are so important to me and to 387 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: our family, and I'm so grateful for them, and so 388 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: it really changed the way I thought about it. I 389 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: still got annoyed just because I, you know, am self 390 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 1: centered and was like, it's my time, not yet. 391 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: Daddy would usually say, you. 392 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: Know what, I'm with my family right now, and he 393 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: would not take pictures because he would say, if I 394 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: have to take one, I have to take So he 395 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: was always very good but it but you can only 396 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: do so much. He's a one person and there's I 397 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: mean literally you cannot walk down the street with him now. 398 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: And it's he's seventy eight years old, you know, so 399 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: this and I'm forty four. So this has been going 400 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: on for forty four years. So it's very different now. 401 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, I love it also because 402 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: it's definitely like helped. I'm so proud of him. I'm 403 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: so impressed, and especially as an adult now realizing how 404 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: hard it is to have any career for as long 405 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: as he has and to continue reinventing himself and try 406 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: new things. It's so scary to try new things, and 407 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: he's constantly trying new things. It's an amazing quality that 408 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: he really, Yeah, one of the very few people yeah, 409 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: I know who can utterly reinvent in and also and 410 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: does Yeah, you know, like when I was younger, I 411 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: remember saying to him, like when he would ask me 412 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: to like feed my bunny or something, and I would 413 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: be like, I don't understand why anyone likes you, and 414 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: I would be so mad. And then I remember one 415 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: time we went to the Dodger game and I was 416 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: being so awful because I was a teenager. I was fourteen, 417 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: and I was just being awful and we were at 418 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: the Dodger game and all of a sudden, they showed 419 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: him on the jumbo tron. 420 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: And you had made a plan before you went to 421 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: the Dodger game. 422 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: What was it. 423 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: The plan was you were going to straighten up your room. 424 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: Oh right, I was going to straighten up my room. 425 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: And I didn't do it. And so Dad said, when 426 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: you get home, you have to straighten up your room. 427 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: And I said, okay. 428 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: So we when the Dodger game they put his face 429 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: on the JumboTron. All of a sudden, I guess it 430 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: was similar to the movie theater, except it was, you know, 431 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: fifty thousand people started coming towards our seats, screaming, chanting, 432 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: and the security had to come and take me and 433 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: Max and Dad out of the before the game was over. 434 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: And we got the gar and I was like, wow, 435 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: that was crazy, you know. I was like definitely, like 436 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: it was scary. And Dad said, Okay, we're going home now. 437 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: I said, can we stop it somewhere to get something 438 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: to eat? I didn't get to eat, and he was like, no, 439 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna go home so you can straighten up your room. 440 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: And I literally looked at him dead in the face 441 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know why anyone chanced 442 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: your name. I'm so angry, and you know, like so 443 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: this man. And everywhere I went people would say what's 444 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: it like having this person as your dad? And I 445 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: would say, like, what's it like having your dad? Because 446 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: he is so regular. I realized now that that was 447 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: an insane response, but growing up with him, he was 448 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: so it was. We had a very For as insane 449 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: as the upbringing was, it was also very normal, and 450 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: we had dinner together, and we had chores and every 451 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: Saturday my dad would splatter paint with us. He would 452 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: put up an easel and we would sit in the 453 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: playroom and do splatter paint and he would take us 454 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: to the farm and we would ride ponies, and at 455 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: that time, paparazzi was so different. If you said, like, 456 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: do not take a picture of my children, they were 457 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: really really respectful. It was a very, very very different 458 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: time he was famous, when there were like, you know, 459 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: a handful of famous people. Now it's such a different experience, 460 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: but it was were the same ones, same ones, right, 461 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,959 Speaker 1: I mean there were so many moments that were just 462 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: so abnormal. I didn't understand that when you went to 463 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: Disneyland you had to wait in a line. I didn't 464 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: understand that that was like something that people did because 465 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: we always were taken and he would still take us 466 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: to Disneyland, but we always had a guide, and so 467 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: we we. 468 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: Had a rarefied life beyond. 469 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: But but it's this fair Yeah, it felt normal normal. 470 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: So it's this weird thing where it's like our normal, yeah, 471 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: and you can't pretend like you had this normal life 472 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: because you didn't. I mean, my tenth birthday was a 473 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: villa in Palm Springs with ten girls. You know, like 474 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: it definitely wasn't normal, but it was also normal. I 475 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: don't It's like this weird dichotomy. So it was definitely interesting. 476 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: And then also you get this sort of thing where 477 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: like teachers were like so nice to you, and so 478 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, like I mean, a part of it must 479 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: have been that I was just an amazing kid, but 480 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that was all of it. 481 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: And kids wanted to be very differently differently, very easily. 482 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: You can tell the ones who are like saying to 483 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: their kids, I think it'd be fun if you write 484 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: her yeah with Zoe yeah. And I remember begging you 485 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: to like speak to the other parents, and you refused, 486 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 2: and you begged me to be nicer to the other parents. 487 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: Right. I knew very early on that people looked at 488 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: us differently, and I wanted us to be looked at 489 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: kind of the same, and I wanted I knew why 490 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: they wanted to be, you know, friends with you, but 491 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: I wanted you to do the same. And it, you know, 492 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: wasn't I get it now. I get it, especially as 493 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: a parent, you know, because it's like, why do you 494 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: want to be friends with somebody that just wants to 495 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: be friends with you to get to your husband? It's like, 496 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: what's the point, you know, you know. 497 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: It's a compliment, I understand, but there are plenty of 498 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: times that it's a drag. Yeah, and but with all 499 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: due respect, you can never forget. The whole deal is that. 500 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: You know, if you remember any interaction with any actor, 501 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: any entertain or once that did not go back, well, 502 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: I remember a housewife that was so mean to me, 503 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: and I to this day I'm not a fan. So 504 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: that's how long it lasts, right. 505 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: No, I know, And that's why they say, like, never 506 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: meet your idols. Didn't you like, never want to meet 507 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: Robert Redford or something? 508 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: Never? 509 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 1: Yeah? 510 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: I didn't. Never could meet Robert were you're supposed to be, 511 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: like sitting next to him at a dinner once and 512 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: you I would have I would have wet myself. 513 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: Okay, well, thank god you didn't. But it was actually 514 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: so my parents take Ace out to dinner every year 515 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: for his birthday because he's a super big foodie. He 516 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: loves food. He's like a little chef. And he turned 517 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: twelve and my parents took him to Matsuhisa this last time, 518 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I just get start getting 519 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: pictures from my dad of Ace and my dad and 520 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: Robert de Niro and Ace had no idea, Ace had none, none, 521 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: But it was just Sady. 522 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 2: Was like fan. 523 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because here's the other thing about Dad is 524 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: he's a huge fan. So if you run into him, 525 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: if he sees one of his you know, celebrity people 526 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: out in the world that he loves their work. Although 527 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: let's talk about this. So it was my birthday on 528 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: September thirtieth. We went to Toscana for dinner and kid 529 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: LaRoy and Tate McCray were at dinner in the restaurant 530 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: and I made the mistake of pointing out to Gus, 531 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: my youngest, that they were there, because he's a big 532 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: fan of Tate McCray. And so I said to my 533 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: dad like, can you just can you get up and 534 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: take take him over to meet her? And he was 535 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: too embarrassed. 536 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 2: You wouldn't. 537 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: He was like, what if they don't know who I am. 538 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: It's a different generation. And I was like, get the 539 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: fuck up, walk your grandkid over to Tate McCray and 540 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: kid LaRoy. But it was fine because my best friend 541 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: Alison came over from another restaurant. She knows them, and 542 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: she introduced them and then Gus came back to the table, goes, 543 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: I freaking met Tate McCray in the middle of Toscana dying. 544 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, life is just it's different in 545 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: the best way, and so I'm so grateful for it. 546 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 1: But it also gives you a skewed view of what 547 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: life is because you never know if someone is being 548 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: genuine or they're wanting something else. I cannot tell you 549 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: how many people have been like, oh can you give 550 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: this script? And now that Max is also a big 551 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: director and producer, it's like it's like I'm reliving it. 552 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you're Max's sister. I was like, actually, 553 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm older. And someone said to me the other day 554 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: how much older is Max than you? And I was like, oh, 555 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: you're mistaken, Like I'm older and he's my brother. But 556 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: it's just I don't know what. People behave very differently 557 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: around famous people, and so when you're in the vicinity 558 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: but you're not the famous person, it's a little confusing 559 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: because you're you're regular. I mean, I'm not regularly, but 560 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, right, And so, like, I 561 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: remember my mom used to be like they would step 562 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: on her tights. She'd be like, you, they're stepping on 563 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: my tights, you know, like they're ripping my. 564 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: Tights wearing stockings at the time, and they literally a 565 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: group of women would walk over me, over me at 566 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 2: a black tie kind of thing on a red carpet, 567 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 2: and I would have holes in my tights. 568 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: Wait, we went to a wedding recently, you me, Rob 569 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: and Dad, and this woman was so drunk and she 570 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: was flirting with Dad in the craziest way, and I 571 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: had words with her. I was like, you have got 572 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: to get control of yourself, Like you've got to calm 573 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: yourself down. Like it was the craziest it was. It 574 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: gave me like I could vomit thinking about it. But 575 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: then also, you know, like we go out of town recently, 576 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: we went to San Francisco, You me, Dad, and I 577 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: took Ace and we get to the hotel. First of all, 578 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: I thought we were staying at a different hotel, which 579 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: is the only reason I agreed to go. And then 580 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: Dad wanted to stay at a different hotel that was 581 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 1: less money. So we get to the hotel and the 582 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: manager comes out to greet us as we're getting to 583 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: the hotel and they were saying, like the suite that 584 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: Dad and you were in and there was like no 585 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: mention of Ace in my room. So I was like, 586 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: excuse me, Like what sweeten am I in? And he 587 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: was like, you're not. You're in a room with a 588 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: very low ceiling and it's highly depressing. And I'm just 589 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: kidding it wasn't, but it was just like but it's 590 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: like that kind of stuff, you know what I mean, 591 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: Like it's like, wait, I'm standing right here, like do 592 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: you have another one for me? Nope, sure don't. So 593 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: it's like you know that kind of thing. And also, 594 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: do you remember that when we used to fly as 595 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 1: soon as we were old enough, you guys would sit 596 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: in first class and we would sit and coach with 597 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: the nanny, and you'd bring us back cookies. 598 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 2: I would bring. 599 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: Yes, the steardesses were way nicer to us because they 600 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: knew that, you know, you and Dad were up there, 601 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: and Dad was Dad. Didn't you didn't you say to 602 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: me recently on the flight home with you and you 603 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: and Dad took ace fishing, and didn't you say that 604 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: The stewardess got on the thing and said it's an 605 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: honor to have Dad on the plane. Oh no, no, 606 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: she was like like leaning over to make out with 607 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: him and not even asking me if I wanted like. 608 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 2: A tomato juice, So what did you do? I was obnoxious. 609 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 2: I tried to be nice. I just thought, you know what, 610 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 2: there are different kinds of women. A lot of women 611 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 2: will say, I'm so sorry, this must be so awkward 612 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 2: for you. I'm totally taking up time with your husband, 613 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 2: or I'm totally interfering. And then if someone is like that, 614 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 2: I'll say, don't be silly. He's thrilled to meet you 615 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 2: and all yours, babe. You know what, I just have 616 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 2: a problem with people who are disrespectful. I really do. 617 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 2: And so many people are disrespectful that it makes me 618 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 2: feel bad. And I would never go up to a 619 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 2: man who I had a crush on and say, you know, 620 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 2: not say to his wife, this must happen to you 621 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 2: all the time. I am so sorry. I mean, it's 622 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 2: my version of going up to my gayna collegist. You know, 623 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 2: he delivered you. 624 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: So this man delivered. 625 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 2: You, you know, So that is that was my similar. 626 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: Well, you know, you win some, you lose some. What 627 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: I'm most excited about is that today is going to 628 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: be the day that we launch our podcasts, and it's 629 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: also Dad's birthday. He's seventy nine today, Yeah, which is 630 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: very old and great, and I have anxiety saying that 631 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: number because I still, to this day, at forty four, 632 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,439 Speaker 1: speak to both of you multiple times a day, which 633 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: is mentally ill. 634 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 2: And I'm so grateful. 635 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: And apparently my husband thinks it's weird that I dad Daddy. 636 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 2: I understand. We've been over that with Robbie, and so 637 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 2: Robbie needs to ixnay on the judgment too. 638 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: Rob is my husband, who's the best. He is the best, Yeah, beyond, 639 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 1: but that is what? Okay? But I should just call 640 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: him dad. No, it's not daddy, Mom, I'm forty four, 641 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: it's weird to call him daddy. It's Dad's birthday, yes, 642 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,800 Speaker 1: which is a national holiday. He loves his birthday almost 643 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: as much as I love my birthday. 644 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 2: I think it would be very hard to figure out 645 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 2: the winner on this competition, but I'm very excited to 646 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 2: celebrate him tonight at his favorite restaurant in the whole 647 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 2: wide world, Matsuhisa. And I also am excited because tomorrow's Halloween, 648 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 2: and tomorrow you guys are going to come over. Daddy 649 00:40:54,080 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 2: schedules all travel plans, all anything on Halloween around Halloween 650 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 2: because he sits on my stoop and he hands out candy, 651 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 2: and it's the and everybody you know it's it's kind 652 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 2: of the same thing. 653 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: There's a line like down the street for him to 654 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: hand out the candy. But do you remember, like two 655 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: years ago, Bradley Cooper came in. I do, and you 656 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: were so and you happen to be like somewhere else 657 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: in the house, and so then you sat next to 658 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: Dad and you were like, I'm just gonna wait right 659 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: here on the stairs till he comes back. But Dad 660 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: literally just sits out there and hands out candy and 661 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: comments on every single child's costume and just is like 662 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: so excited and happy to be there and it's a 663 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: moment for him and his fans. Just kidding, but he 664 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: loves it so much, and I'm so excited. And I'm 665 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna surprise him tomorrow with a cake with the kids 666 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: so that like we can have like a big cake 667 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: for his birthday because tonight's just grown up. So tomorrow 668 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: I'll have like a big cake at the house for 669 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: the Halloween party. Oh yes, of course, I would love 670 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: to continue talking about me, So I would like next 671 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: episode to be about my marriage and my children. But 672 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: we'll just have to wait we'll have to wait. We 673 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: have so much good stuff, We'll just have to wait 674 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: till the next pod. 675 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 2: Okay, bye, bye, love you, love you, Thank you so 676 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 2: much for listening to What in the Winkler. We're so 677 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 2: excitt we really are