1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is the one and only 3 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: West Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from our studios 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field West. We are approaching the end of 5 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: I guess you call it the post mortem week for 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. The season is over. Just to 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: get some logistical things out of the way, you and 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: I are going to be doing this show and one 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: more show tomorrow, and then we're gonna go dark for 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: a little while because they're gonna be some days we 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: won't both be in the office and all that kind 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: of stuff because we gotta take our breaks. So we 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: will be back from the combine in Indianapolis a little 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: bit later in February. I always look at this like seasons, 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: where you have like the regular season unscripted, and then 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: like the off season. It's like all your favorite television 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: shows when you're a child, They didn't fifty two weeks 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: out of the year. You had to have some variety 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: mixed in there. So we have to reset. We have 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: to write new scripts. We don't write scripts, it's unscripted. 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: We gotta fake writing some new scripts. And then we'll 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: be back for the combine. My point being that with 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: having two shows left here before, we take a bit 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: of a break, and tomorrow we'll be hearing from Packers 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: general manager Brian Gudakuns. He's going to be giving an 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: end of season press conference, so I want to save 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: that discussion for tomorrow's show. So what I thought we 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: could do today is actually give our thoughts a little 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: bit on this Super Bowl matchup. The San Francisco forty 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: Niners a week from Sunday down in Miami, will be 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: taking on the Kansas City Chiefs. The Chiefs in the 32 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl for the first time in fifty years, the 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: Niners back in the super Bowl for the first time 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: since two thousand twelve. I don't know what you thinks, 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: but I think this is going to be a wildly 36 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: entertaining super Bowl and there are some really really interesting 37 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: things from matchup standpoint that I guess we can jump 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: the gun a little bit because everybody in Miami is 39 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: going to be talking about it next week, so we 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: can we can talk about our thoughts as far as 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: how these teams match up. But I think it's gonna 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: be a whale of a game. Oh, it's gonna be 43 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: a lot of fun for a lot of reasons. I mean, 44 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: the biggest thing is that you have Patrick Mahomes and 45 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: that that style of offense that Kansas City employees going 46 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: up against Robert Sala's defense. I think it's a great 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: test for both of those phases of the game, and 48 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: offensively seeing exactly how this Jimmy Garoppolo led offense functions 49 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: against Kansas City with the defense that I think is 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 1: better than it was a year ago. Oh yeah, there's 51 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: no question that's that's gonna be a big test for 52 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: them and seeing how exactly they defend it. More than 53 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: anything though, I just think that this could really be 54 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: set up to be Patrick mahomes coming out party to 55 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: the NFL. Everybody understands he's he's won an m v P. 56 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: He's one of the most exciting young players in the 57 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: National Football League. But let's be honest. I mean the 58 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: Tom Brady Drew Brees kind of era that that years 59 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: to be kind of fading now. So you know, Peyton 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: Manning's gone, Eli Manning is retiring. There is sort of 61 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: this dearth of like profile superstar quarterbacks out there right now, 62 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes is set up to be one of 63 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah. A couple of things that really intrigued 64 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: me from a matchup standpoint about this game is in 65 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: the a f C playoffs, we saw that running game 66 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: of the Tennessee Titans and Derrick Henry just plowing their 67 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: way through the Patriots, through the Ravens, and really through 68 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: the first quarter and a half in Kansas City where 69 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: Tennessee had a seventeen seven lead in that game. They 70 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: were controlling the ball, controlling the clock. Then Kansas City's 71 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: defense stood up to Derrick Henry and the run, and 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: once they were able to slow that down and take 73 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: it away and the ball was in Patrick mahomes hands 74 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: on a more frequent basis than the Chiefs started to 75 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: get their separation. So given that the San Francisco forty 76 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: Niners ran the ball forty plus times against the Minnesota 77 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: Vike things ran the ball forty plus times against the 78 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers to plow their way through the NFC playoffs, 79 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: that to me is interesting. Now that the dynamic of 80 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: this San Francisco running game against that Chiefs defense that 81 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: had to stand up to Derrick Henry. Then the flip 82 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: side of it for me is that the San Francisco defense, 83 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: which is so good up front, and they do such 84 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: a good job getting pressure with just a four man 85 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: rush most of the time, they don't have to blitz 86 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: very often. But if there was one thing San Francisco 87 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: maybe had a little bit of trouble with this year 88 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: because a lot of it was in their division, it 89 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: was with the scrambling mobile quarterbacks like Russell Wilson of 90 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and Kyler Murray of the Cardinals. They had 91 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: four games against those guys, and those might have been 92 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: there four four of their toughest games of the season. 93 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: Now their challenges Patrick Mahomes and uh I think that's 94 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: the the intriguing matchup on on the flip side of things, 95 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: from an X and O standpoint, it's kind of hipster game, 96 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: if we're gonna be honest here, right, because, like, offensively, 97 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: maybe outside of George Kittle, I don't really know if 98 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: you line up any of these San Francisco forty niners 99 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: like skill position players and maybe even Jimmy Garoppolo himself, 100 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: how many, like casual football fans are gonna be able 101 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: to point out, Oh, that's Rashim Mostart. You know, that's 102 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: that's Kyle use Check. They just aren't built that way. 103 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: There just isn't that those those superstars to keep using 104 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: that word in this offense, but they're so effective in 105 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: what they do. And to be honest with you, Mike, 106 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: I think this is probably the most dynamic running game 107 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: that has gone into a Super Bowl since maybe Seattle 108 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: want It. I mean that was more based on one player, 109 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: but it's just it's amazing to watch all these different 110 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: backs compliment one another. I mean, you heard me asking 111 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: the questions during the week leading up to the San 112 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: Francisco game. It is it's a it's an unquantifiable strength 113 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: that I think that they've had all year long that Okay, 114 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: it can be Mostart, it can be Brita when they've 115 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: needed him to be that guy. Jeff Wilson had a 116 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: couple of big runs this season, and seeing exactly the 117 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: way that Kyle Shanahan uses those assets in how Kansas 118 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: City is going to be able to defend against that. 119 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: Because as much as you you you can point out 120 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: things the Packers did wrong against the you know, the 121 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: Forts in that game, it's not like they just were 122 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: running the ball right up the middle for four quarters 123 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: and the packers couldn't stop it. It was the different 124 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: variations of that scheme that maximized those opportunities. It was outside, inside, 125 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: it was end a rounds, it was misdirections that it 126 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: was all. It was all kinds of stuff, and the 127 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: packers were quite frankly, just flustered with all of it. 128 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: And this is a this is an oversimplification, Okay, but 129 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: I remember covering high school football and you might remember 130 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: this too. Now, the threat of the past is not 131 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: there like it is in the NFL, but all the 132 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: top offenses that I covered at that level, it was 133 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: always predicated on deception misdirection. Can you get guys to 134 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: think the defense and make them move a stick slower? 135 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: San Francisco has incorporated those principles at the NFL level. 136 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: That is mind boggling that they've been able to do that, 137 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: because it wasn't just the Green Bay Packers that had 138 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: problems solving it. A lot of teams have had problems 139 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: solving it. Kansas City, as much as this is about 140 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: mahomes in Tyreek Hill and all these offensive weapons they have, 141 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: I think that game is ultimately going to come down 142 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: to can they stop the run and forced Jimmy Garoppolo 143 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: to throw. Well, that that personnel that San Francisco has 144 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: in the running game really is a one of a 145 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: kind combination. Because you talk about the three headed monster 146 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: at running back. Not a single one of those guys 147 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: West had even reached a hundred and forty carries in 148 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: the regular season, which means not a one of them 149 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: average ten yard I'm sorry, average ten carries per game 150 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: in the regular season because the workload was so spread out. 151 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: So you have that on top of the fact that 152 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: you have the best tight end in the game and 153 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: George Kittle and the best fullback by far in the 154 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: game in Kyle use Check. That's your run person now, 155 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: aside obviously from your you know, your main five guys 156 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: up front on the offensive line, that's a that's an 157 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: incredible combination of run offense personnel that no one else has, 158 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, and that's what makes them so special. Now, 159 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: from the tight end position, if George Kittle is the 160 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: number one tight end in the league, Travis Kelsey for 161 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: Kansas City is one A or number two however you 162 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: want to phrase it, and he plays a very different 163 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: role from George Kittle. He's maybe not as involved in 164 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: the running game as Kittle is, but but he's certainly 165 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: a target for Patrick Mahomes in the passing game, whether 166 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: it be in those safety valve instances to move the 167 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: chains or potentially for the big plays down the field. 168 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: So that part is that part is really interesting here 169 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: as wealth just from a personnel standpoint, it's kind of 170 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: like when they hand out like m v P and 171 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: like Offensive Player of the Year. In my opinion, George 172 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: Kittle is the best tight end in the National Football 173 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: because everything if you put up a job description of 174 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: a tight end, he excels at all of it. Travis 175 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: Kelsey is the best playmaking tight end I feel like 176 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: in the National Football League in the areas that especially 177 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: with where it complements this offense. He's exceptional. And Patrick 178 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: Mahomes has that trust in him. And you can't really 179 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: understate the fact that since the very beginning, since Kelsey 180 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: came into this league, he has been a difference maker. 181 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: There wasn't really a let up at all. This guy 182 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: just blew onto the scene and knocked the doors down 183 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: here and and yeah, I think there's a lot to 184 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: be said for both of these offenses. Getting to the 185 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: stage and having those type of tight ends. Because Mike, 186 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: this is putting you on the spot. I don't expect 187 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: you to be able to answer this. I mean, think 188 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: of the last time you've seen a Super Bowl with 189 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: these with with arguably the two top tight ends in 190 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: the National Football League squaring off against each other. It's 191 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: been a hot second. Yeah, I I can't. I mean 192 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: even even thinking back to to do that. Yeah, even 193 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: thinking back to like say the Cowboys dynasty of the 194 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: early nineties, when you know j Novacek is running up 195 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: and down the field. You know they had some of 196 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: those Super Bowls against the Buffalo Bills. That that Bills 197 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: the K gun offense was not built on the title 198 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: it was. It was built on you know, Andre Reid 199 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: and Thurman Thomas and James Lofton and all of those guys. 200 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: So um, you know don Beebie, those types of players. 201 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it is hard to it is hard 202 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: to think of of that type of matchup. But you 203 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: know that's going to be a big storyline in Miami 204 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: next week and both of the I think both of 205 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: those tight ends are gonna be are gonna be rather 206 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: motivated to prove that that you know, now, neither one 207 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: can do anything about the others production on the field, 208 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: but I think they're going to be motivated to prove that, Yeah, 209 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: I'm I'm the best tight end in the league. You 210 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: know that. That's that's the mentality of both of those guys. 211 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: And it's not a coincidence. Like that's the biggest point 212 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to illustrate her. I think there's a direct 213 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: correlation of both of these offenses and both these teams 214 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: getting to the super Bowl with those weapons. Because all 215 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: year long people ask you and I you know, how 216 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: do you stop George Kittle? How do you stop tight 217 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: end X? And it's difficult questions to answer in the 218 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: Packers aren't the only ones having to answer it. The 219 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: tight end is an enigma right now in the NFL. 220 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: I mean the way that this position has evolved and adapted. 221 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: This Rob Gronkowski generation sort of ushered in this new 222 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: wave where you know, it's not just a you don't 223 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: just have to be a pass catching tight end or 224 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: an inline blocking tight end. You can beat all of it, 225 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: and you can play in every down in every situation. 226 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: You can motion out when you need to, you can 227 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: be in line when you need to. Heck, George Kittle 228 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: will take a carry when he needs to. That's just 229 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: the way that this thing has gone. And yeah, both 230 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: of these teams, I'm sure practicing against that tight end 231 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: are going to be ready for what it takes to 232 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: go up against a high level guy in a high 233 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: level athlete. But it just adds in another wrinkle that 234 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: I think this makes us a very interesting and captivating 235 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: matchup on so many levels. Yeah, and to back up 236 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: for a second what I was talking about before with 237 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: the forty Niners and their standard foreman rush, that is 238 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: that's very much the foundation of that defense and how 239 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: they did have trouble with the mobile quarterback Russell Wilson 240 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray. From a strategic standpoint, if they want 241 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: to stick with the four man rush but then have 242 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: somebody spy Patrick Mahomes and whatnot for the scrambling, that 243 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: changes the type of coverage you've been playing all season long, 244 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: because they've been a Cover seven, you know, rush four, 245 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: Cover seven team. Well, if you want to spy, if 246 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: you want to spy Patrick Mahomes, suddenly your Cover seven 247 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: becomes Cover six in terms of the numbers back there, 248 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: and that's you know, that changes things. And I think 249 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: that those are the those are the types of tweaks 250 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: from an x is and O standpoint, that where the 251 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: Seahawks and the Cardinals in that NFC West Division gave 252 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: them some trouble. And that's why I said last week 253 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: when we were standing in the locker room for my money. 254 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: Right now, as it stands, that's why Mahomes is the 255 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: best five tool running running back quarterback in the National 256 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: Football League because of the running threat he possesses. H 257 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: he has, the arm, he has, the accuracy, has the 258 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: the willpower to stand tall in the pocket deliver a 259 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: big downfield strike and then by the way, when everything 260 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: breaks down, he can make it remarkable run like he 261 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: did last week that touchdown to help them win that game. 262 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: He's just he's a threat on so many levels. When 263 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: I it was in, you know, the Packers won the game, 264 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: and that was fun and it obviously was important to 265 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: to get the buy and what it all meant for 266 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: their season. But the fact that we kind of got 267 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: robbed of that Rogers and Mahomes matchup was you know, 268 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: that kind of stunk because it's like it goes back 269 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: to these these Brady and Roethlisberger and Breeze matchups, you 270 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: just don't know how many times you're gonna get them. 271 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: For whatever reason. Russell Wilson seems to be here every 272 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: three weeks playing the Packers, but for the most part, 273 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: those franchise quarterbacks you just don't get those matchups. So, uh, yeah, 274 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: like I said, if this goes the way it needs 275 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: to for Kansas City, you know, last year they felt 276 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: like they were the team. This year, I think they 277 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: still felt like they were the team, even though they 278 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: had a weather through some adversity mid season. The Andy 279 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: Reid angle to all this, I just feel like it 280 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: is set up for this to be a really statement 281 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: game for Yeah, that was the other the other thing 282 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to get to here because you just brought 283 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: up Andy Reid. There are some interesting storylines with regards 284 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: to the coaching in this And to start with Andy Reid, 285 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: this was his seventh time as a head coach in 286 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: a conference championship game and before this year, he had 287 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: only been to the Super Bowl once, got the Eagles 288 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: there one time they lost at the wire to the Patriots, 289 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, So Andy Reid and that was 290 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. So he's back in the Super Bowl 291 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: for the first time in fifteen years, still trying to 292 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: win his first Super Bowl, having now been to seven 293 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: conference championship games as a head coach. On the other side, 294 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: I don't believe, and again I'll put you on the 295 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: spot here, but I don't believe there has ever been 296 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: a father son combination that had both won Super Bowls 297 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: as head coaches. So you have the Kyle Shanahan now 298 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: as the son of Mike Shanahan. He's the two time 299 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning coach of the Denver bronco So that's 300 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: some potential history that could be made here. Um. Obviously, 301 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: two very different coaches at two very different stages of 302 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: their careers, but some really interesting stories that go into 303 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: how these guys got here and what's at stake for them. 304 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: You know what I love about Kyle Shanahan's story. In 305 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: addition to I think he's just a phenomenal coach. I 306 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: love his temperament. I even remarked to you when we 307 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: were in the press box in San Francisco, he just 308 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: seems like a guy that is a media member you 309 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: would really enjoy covering. Based on the few interactions I've 310 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: had with him, and sure looks like players enjoy playing flame. 311 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: But the thing that I like more than anything with 312 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: his stories that this wasn't a guy that was the 313 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: son of Mike Shanahan, so he just got everything that 314 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: he received. Mike Shanahan was out of the National Football 315 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: League after what two he had to go to Cleveland 316 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: to be an offensive coordinator. With all due respect to 317 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: Mike Petton in the Browns, it isn't considered to be 318 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: one of the pristine jobs in the National Football League 319 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: over the last twenty years. It's an uphill battle. It's 320 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: a grind. He he leaves there after one year, goes 321 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: back to being a you know, you look at this. 322 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: You know. Now he's in Atlanta and then suddenly he 323 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: gets to a super Bowl with Atlanta, and then he 324 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: gets this opportunity with San Francisco. Everybody's high on San 325 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: Francisco after one year. Then Garoppolo tears his A c 326 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: L and they go four and twelve. They luck into 327 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: bosup in the early part of this draft. It's just 328 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: all these things had to line up for him to 329 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: be back in this moment, and for a guy that 330 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: has talked about it before when he was in what 331 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: was it ninth grade or eighth grade or whatever it was, 332 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: when when Mike Shanahan won the super Bowl in thirty two. 333 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: It's it's a remarkable story. And that that's the part 334 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: of it that I think I kind of enjoy out 335 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: of this. Either you're gonna see Andy Reid finally get 336 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: that elusive super Bowl championship, or you're gonna see history 337 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: be made. And one of those two things the other 338 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: one that doesn't happen. That's that's a huge reality that 339 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, that's the beauty and also the real I 340 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: don't want to say horror, that's the only way that's 341 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: coming to mind. But it's it's the heartbreak of it, 342 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: the heartbreak of this game. There's the eisen Lowes are 343 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: going to swing Sofia so far well. And when you 344 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: and when you talk about Andy Reid and and I 345 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with his entire coaching tree. It would 346 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: take me a long time to, you know, to put 347 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: all the names together and whatnot. Man, but the fact 348 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: that Andy Reid is not won a super Bowl, but 349 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson from his coaching tree has won a super 350 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: Bowl ten years ago was coaching right exactly. So I mean, 351 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: you know they're I think they're I think there, yes, 352 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: in Philly where Andy Reid, uh, you know, took five 353 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: Eagles teams to the conference championship in the NFC, only 354 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: got to one Super Bowl and then lost to Tom 355 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: Brady and Bill Belichick. This is a remarkable coaching tree 356 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: for read just take this with you for a second. 357 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: Ten former assistants have become head coach John Harbaugh. John 358 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: Harbaugh was one of them. So there's a there's a 359 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: there's another one off the Andy Reid coaching tree. You 360 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: has who has a Super Bowl ring? But look, listen 361 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: to this tree man, this is insane. Brad Shoulders, whatever 362 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: you think of Brad Shoulders, he had success in in 363 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: in with the Vikings for a short time. Steve Spagnola, 364 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: who's now his defensive coordinator, Leslie Fraser, Ron Rivera, Pat Shermer, 365 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles, Doug Peterson, Sean McDermott, and Matt Neggy. That's 366 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: a heck of a t I didn't I mean I 367 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: knew obviously about and I didn't remember that McDermott was yeah, 368 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: that's right. And then as we mentioned with regard to 369 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: Peterson and Harbor having one Super bowls. Ron Rivera has 370 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: been to a Super Bowl and unfortunately came up short. 371 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 1: So yeah, that that is uh um, that is an 372 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: impressive coaching tree. I think from a coaching standpoint, nothing 373 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: against the Shanahans by any means, but I think there's 374 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: going to be a lot of national fan sentiment towards 375 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: Andy Reid here to uh you know, to finally be 376 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: able to hoist that Lombardi Trophy. That that's just what 377 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: I sense from the general national football fan. Yeah, because 378 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: I mean there's how many guys have been head coaches 379 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: in the National Futball League him and Belichick. I mean 380 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: like it's a short list, and he obviously had to 381 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: go through two different organizations to be here. But this 382 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: is a guy that when things finally went the way 383 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: they did in Philadelphia, he got picked right back up 384 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: by Kansas City and then you know, again, this a 385 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: lot of this goes to John's Dorsey. I will continue 386 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: to bring up his name because he's the guy that 387 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: had the intuition to go and draft Mahomes. Yeah, he's 388 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: the guy. He's the guy who picked him, and a 389 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: lot and a lot of people question that pick with 390 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: how high he took him in the first round, and uh, 391 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: Dorsey had the courage of his convictions there he turned 392 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: out to be dead right, and for the moment that 393 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: they got there, they that was a really weak class 394 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen for quarterbacks. I think Geno Smith 395 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: was the one that got taken first as far as 396 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: the quarterback's position was concerned, maybe him or forget maybe 397 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember, but be that as it may. 398 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: He went and traded the second round pick Dorsey did 399 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: to get Alex Smith. They draft Eric Fisher, who's now 400 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: they're starting left tackle, and they won right away read 401 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: one right away with a team they ended up making 402 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: the decision to move on. They felt confident Mahomes and 403 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: it's only been winning in success ever since then. But yeah, 404 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: to the original point for Andy Reid, this is a 405 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: huge part of the storyline because he's back in the 406 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: spotlight and that doesn't happen a lot. Yeah, I think 407 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: it's uh um, I think it's gonna be a whale 408 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: of a football game. I I remember leaning over to 409 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: you in the third quarter of the NFC Championship last 410 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: Sunday and saying the over under for this game might 411 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,239 Speaker 1: be a hundred points. And I and I say that 412 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: with all due respect to both of these defenses, which 413 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: are not slouches by any means, but with the way 414 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: San Francisco can run the football, and with the way 415 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes can run around and throw and make plays 416 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: and everything, I just I think this is potentially a 417 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: Now I don't know if it will be the same 418 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: as that Eagles Eagles Patriots super Bowl from a couple 419 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: of years ago, but I think this has the potential 420 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: to be to be a really high scoring super Bowl, 421 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: even with what have been some pretty darn good defenses 422 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: out there on the field. Yeah, and two former Packard 423 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: connections in this game to Mike Pennell, who has signed 424 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: mid season by Kansas City actually started uh in the 425 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: a f C Championship game at nose tackle for them, 426 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: and then also Bashad Breland, who spent a starting corner 427 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: for Kansas Both play for Kansas City. So yeah, it's uh, 428 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: it's great. It's gonna be a fun week in the 429 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: week leading up to that. UM, I still want to 430 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: be able to be a part of one of those things. 431 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: I still want to cover one of them. It's always 432 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: been sort of weird, uh, watching these things from home. 433 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: But you know, maybe soon enough, and Aaron Jones said 434 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: after the game on Sunday, I mean he stood out 435 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: there for a couple of seconds extra. He wanted to 436 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: watch them put on the hats and get the trophy 437 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: and everything. You wanted to feel that. So then maybe 438 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: next year they can reverse those fortunes. Yeah, we shall see. 439 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: The Packers are certainly going to do everything they can 440 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: to make a run, and we will hear from general 441 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: manager Brian Gutacoont's tomorrow on his thoughts moving forward here 442 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: as the as the Packers try to take that next 443 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: step in in the season finale or season A of 444 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: Packers on Scripted, Yeah we will. We will be signing 445 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: off after tomorrow's show. For now, we're calling it a 446 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: rap on this particular edition of Packers on script would 447 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: be sure to continue following all of our coverage of 448 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: the team on Packers dot Com. 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