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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. And it's a fabulous Football Friday edition
Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys as we get you set for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and the New York Giants, a three twenty five
Speaker 1: kickoff on Sunday afternoon at at and T Stadium. It
Speaker 1: is finally here. It's time for the real deal, and
Speaker 1: I think we're all ready for it, right guys? Absolutely yep,
Speaker 1: nice alliteration. A fabulous or fantastic football football Friday here
Speaker 1: and and what a great football weekend. We're not going
Speaker 1: to belabor the point, but huge games for Rob Phillips
Speaker 1: and Brian brought us as Rob Phillips Aggies will take
Speaker 1: on Clemson and Brian brought us LSU Bayou Bengals will
Speaker 1: play the Texas Longhorns. You're not going down to Austin,
Speaker 1: are you? If you had a high school game there
Speaker 1: tonight and I'm driving home right afterwards. Really gonna stick around, hope,
Speaker 1: I canna stick around. Yeah, my son plays down there
Speaker 1: Friday night, and so yeah, we're gonna head back after
Speaker 1: the game. Okay, all right, very good and uh and
Speaker 1: love the well. And of course, we had a high
Speaker 1: school football game here at Ford Center at the Star
Speaker 1: last night as play O played at El Paso Eastwood.
Speaker 1: A great scene there. Jerry Jones was out in the
Speaker 1: Tostitos Championship plaza greeting the Eastwood team as they made
Speaker 1: their way into the Star. And good feelings all around
Speaker 1: on that. And Mickey, you got a big game tomorrow
Speaker 1: two at eleven am West Virginia. I try that's the
Speaker 1: ugly off. And now we get to the Giants and
Speaker 1: what's Oklahoma? Everyone to play South Dakota. We don't need
Speaker 1: to talk about South Dakota. Okay, it's our one layup,
Speaker 1: all right, So let's move on to the New York Giants.
Speaker 1: And speaking of Jerry Jones and the Zeke Elliott press
Speaker 1: conference yesterday, I just think Jerry Jones has been on
Speaker 1: his game, and not only this week but throughout the preseason.
Speaker 1: And I think one of the reasons is he feels
Speaker 1: very good about where this football team is right now.
Speaker 1: He has to feel better about getting that elite running
Speaker 1: back in here, for sure. And I think that if
Speaker 1: you are a fan of football and you watch last
Speaker 1: night's games, you'll see what a lack of a running
Speaker 1: game will do for you there. And neither teams really
Speaker 1: could do anything offensively. And if you if you're gonna
Speaker 1: have in balance and you're gonna have problems throwing the ball,
Speaker 1: you gotta have something to hang your hat on. And
Speaker 1: I feel like that Jerry Jones knows. Now. You know,
Speaker 1: Tony Poller did a lot of nice things, but Ezeki
Speaker 1: Elliott is an elite player, and to turn around and
Speaker 1: be able to hand him the football if things are
Speaker 1: kind of a little crazy on offense, you know, those
Speaker 1: are the things that can give your offense some stability.
Speaker 1: And so I think he has to be very happy
Speaker 1: about that, about having the group of players he has,
Speaker 1: about having Kellen Moore is his offensive coordina. I'm really
Speaker 1: excited to see what Kellen Moore can do with this offense,
Speaker 1: I really am. I think he's got some some weapons
Speaker 1: that he can work with the defense. We've talked about
Speaker 1: them a bunch yesterday, But I think this offense has
Speaker 1: got the chance to be really good in a lot
Speaker 1: of different areas. In regards to that game last night,
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, I'm laive. I heard on the radio.
Speaker 1: This is right. Their last thirty three plays were past
Speaker 1: plays for a ten three game. You still have to
Speaker 1: have balance in this that quarterback. Yeah, that's the thing,
Speaker 1: and I think that to me. People ask me about
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and what you know, and you know, can
Speaker 1: you throw the ball with him forty times a game
Speaker 1: and have success? You know, last night we saw it
Speaker 1: and I was the guy Yeston heck, I would draft
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is one of my first guys if I
Speaker 1: was looking at a team. But that's what you see
Speaker 1: the quarterback. If you have quarterback inconsistency in a game,
Speaker 1: you're gonna need something else to hang your hat on.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where Ezekiel. This offensive line is
Speaker 1: the difference to things. If Dak were to get into
Speaker 1: a rut like they had last night, at least I
Speaker 1: feel like that they could do things offensively running the
Speaker 1: football to kind of get themselves going. Maybe we need
Speaker 1: more preseason games. That was ugly and neither team was
Speaker 1: ready to play or any preseason games, just you guysenies,
Speaker 1: the penalties, the lack of protection for the quarterbacks. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was we did and we talked about yesterday's terrible
Speaker 1: tackling can be an issue in week one because you're
Speaker 1: not really you're not doing it in practice, your and
Speaker 1: your starters are doing it very minimally. That's a word
Speaker 1: in preseason games. So we'll see. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys I think have been sharp. The starting units
Speaker 1: were sharp and limited preseason action, so we'll see if
Speaker 1: they can carry that over. But to your point about
Speaker 1: Jerry being on his game, I think that press conference
Speaker 1: illustrated better than anything his experience with these types of contracts.
Speaker 1: And you know, he never seemed frazzled by the situation
Speaker 1: when asked about it over the last six weeks. And
Speaker 1: obviously he and Zeke are not taking whatever back and
Speaker 1: forth was the dance involved with that. Nothing was was
Speaker 1: taken personally. Obviously, based on that T shirt that's now
Speaker 1: on sale free order at the Cowboys Pro Shop, all
Speaker 1: proceeds go into Salvation Army. That's right. And there's no
Speaker 1: way that Zeke took a fense to what Cherry had
Speaker 1: said in Hawaii is he does. Anybody asked Zeek that, Uh,
Speaker 1: he said, it's it's so far away now, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was anymore. But I'm in my opinion. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think the agent used that just as you know. May
Speaker 1: maybe the agent took a fense to it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But they have too good a relationship and everybody's happy. Everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got especially you hear the context of what got
Speaker 1: their player and he got his money. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot to be happy about. But you know,
Speaker 1: we need to see that. But to answer your question,
Speaker 1: I think, yes, he understands how good this team could be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think he's feeling good about what he's seen
Speaker 1: so far. And he's no different from the rest of us, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, we can see, we can see what you know.
Speaker 1: If I don't think it was a mirage what we've
Speaker 1: been watching for six weeks, this should be a very
Speaker 1: good team. We talked yesterday Buil at the end of
Speaker 1: the show, what concern I think Brian went around the room,
Speaker 1: what concerns you the most about this team? And it's
Speaker 1: really hard to pick. For me, it's hard to pick
Speaker 1: something and say I'm really concerned about this or this
Speaker 1: like top to bottom, it's a pretty solid football team.
Speaker 1: The one thing for me is, and we talked about
Speaker 1: the kicking, you gotta see consistency there as he moves
Speaker 1: out of preseason Brett Maher, But you know guys coming
Speaker 1: off of injury and the offensive line hasn't been together
Speaker 1: for a little stretch here, so you know some of
Speaker 1: your key guys coming back. Can they get back to
Speaker 1: the standard they're used to? And one concern for the
Speaker 1: overriding concern for me is and I think that this
Speaker 1: team is in good shape because it's got enough veterans
Speaker 1: on the team that understand this. But it's not reading
Speaker 1: your press clippings basically and not being overconfident going into
Speaker 1: the season. Um, I think if they if they are
Speaker 1: ready for in a mental state of mind to understand
Speaker 1: that those New York Giants can beat you on Sunday,
Speaker 1: which they should understand that, and they're ready to go,
Speaker 1: then they're going to be fine. Um. Injuries are always
Speaker 1: a concern, and they've got better depth now as we've
Speaker 1: talked about throughout the last six weeks that the depth
Speaker 1: on this team is the best it's been in years.
Speaker 1: Of course, but there are certain injuries that no team
Speaker 1: could could overcome and reach the goal that your e
Speaker 1: have set out in front of you. But that's my
Speaker 1: biggest concern. It happened in twenty fifteen. You lose Romo
Speaker 1: in your seasons, right, you know it's it's an uphill climb. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I look at the look at it this way
Speaker 1: from an offensive standpoint. Look at the weapons that Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott has at his disposal going into this season opener
Speaker 1: compared to last year. Yeah, You've got Amari Cooper, you
Speaker 1: got Randall cop Cole Beasley, and if you want to
Speaker 1: say that's a washwever Okay, Witton's back, you got Tony Pollard.
Speaker 1: I'm missing a Travis Frederick. Michael Michael Gallup is now
Speaker 1: a second year guy. Yeah, okay, last year and he's
Speaker 1: a rookie. You know, everything's just flying by so fast.
Speaker 1: I mean I count it. There was There's six weapons,
Speaker 1: not even including the return of Travis Frederick. What he
Speaker 1: does front with the whether whether they run the football,
Speaker 1: He's a key part of that six skill position guys
Speaker 1: that chasing this team. Yeah that that weren't here last year.
Speaker 1: Who has to give? And the quarterbacks not lacking in
Speaker 1: confidence even when he didn't have these guys. But you
Speaker 1: can only imagine what he's thinking going into this right now.
Speaker 1: Even this is better than Terrence Williams and Deonte Thompson
Speaker 1: starting at whiten receiver. Well, they made a huge mistake
Speaker 1: and they admit it. They knew that schiever by committee
Speaker 1: was not the way to go. Give him credit for that, yep,
Speaker 1: making the move absolutely, And you might even throw a
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin in that mix. Now that yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: a guy, you know, a year under his belt, truly
Speaker 1: a year under his belt and back practicing. It looks
Speaker 1: like you who was the NFC Offensive Player of the
Speaker 1: Week the last week of the season last year the
Speaker 1: New York Football Giants. That's right, you know, and he
Speaker 1: was he was so green going into last year even
Speaker 1: though he hadn't he had been in the league, but
Speaker 1: he hadn't played, you know, he hadn't played, wasn't and
Speaker 1: the other guy had and Gallup hadn't played, you know,
Speaker 1: and so right right, and Rico hadn't played. And having
Speaker 1: said that about the list, having said that about the
Speaker 1: whole offense, then you look at this defense and go
Speaker 1: the defense, it looks like it's going to be good
Speaker 1: enough that you're going to be in every game, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Oh, there's no question if you
Speaker 1: look at what they did to that offense that you said,
Speaker 1: had all these guys play, and I mean not to
Speaker 1: everybody practiced every single snap, but I thought this defense
Speaker 1: really held this offense to task and having to having
Speaker 1: to pass to football, whether it was a seven on
Speaker 1: seven drill, a team period of two minute drill, whatever,
Speaker 1: Yeah they if it was good verse good out there
Speaker 1: work and you saw it, you know, you saw those guys.
Speaker 1: It makes you feel a little bit better about it.
Speaker 1: If if Byron Jones doesn't start, at least you feel
Speaker 1: good about Anthony Brown. I used to feel good about
Speaker 1: George Lewis. At least you feel good about a woozy A.
Speaker 1: You feel good about those guys for what you saw
Speaker 1: from them, really all ot a and then all through
Speaker 1: training camp, and that was without Byron Jones, De Marcus Lawrence,
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford. Absolutely get in the field. Yeah, think about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're missing Zeke too on the other side, but in
Speaker 1: Amari for most of camp. But look it'll y'all right,
Speaker 1: Dak nothing Dak got was really easy, and I didn't
Speaker 1: think it was. I thought it was good competition. And
Speaker 1: when people said, well, Dak didn't look good to day,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, it's really not Dak's fault, because what
Speaker 1: happens is Dak was getting, you know, the coverage that
Speaker 1: they you know, even guys like Michael Gallup, who we've
Speaker 1: talked about as potentially being having a great as being
Speaker 1: one b in my mind, you know, he was having
Speaker 1: a fight for space out there on the outside, some
Speaker 1: tight window throws and so some days it was really good.
Speaker 1: Some days it would But I think it wasn't because
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott was just throwing the ball all over the
Speaker 1: park and missing throws. It was because defense was having
Speaker 1: to play and having to cover those good receivers and
Speaker 1: then having to make plays on the football. Mickey, you've
Speaker 1: seen a couple of practice reports and concerns injury wise
Speaker 1: going into Sunday. Not really I expected them to be
Speaker 1: very conservative with Zack Martin, and he was really the
Speaker 1: only one that was that we thought was going to
Speaker 1: play was limited and it sounded like he was going
Speaker 1: to jump into practice today fully, So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that was more of a precaution more. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: Mickey's onto something here because Zack Martin, to me, is
Speaker 1: the one guy that's going to have to play the
Speaker 1: whole game, you know it. Because it's easy to monitor
Speaker 1: the reps of the defensive lineman or the cornerbacks and
Speaker 1: kind of shuffle those guys in and out. It's a
Speaker 1: little bit more different cool to do it with an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. You're not gonna sit there and say, oh,
Speaker 1: Xavier two, Philo is going to go in here now
Speaker 1: for two for two reds or for two series or
Speaker 1: something like that. You need the continuity with the offensive line.
Speaker 1: So if you kind of baby him along to get
Speaker 1: him to the end of the week and get him
Speaker 1: to the game, maybe you're saving a little where and
Speaker 1: tear of him having to potentially play sixty sixty five
Speaker 1: snaps in this football game. You know the feeling I
Speaker 1: get on this team and it's like first games can
Speaker 1: create anxiety, like you don't know, Jason Witten said that
Speaker 1: I just get. I just get the feeling that this
Speaker 1: team is like bubbling to get going. Yeah, like for real,
Speaker 1: it's like they're not scared and it's still a young team,
Speaker 1: but it's a young team with experience. So that's just
Speaker 1: the vibe I get from in that locker room, right
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to compare. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say this is a super Bowl team yet, but it's
Speaker 1: the same. By the way, it's the same type feeling
Speaker 1: that I had for those Cowboys Super Bowl teams in
Speaker 1: the nineties in that two week period leading up to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, where they just were going to get
Speaker 1: unleashed come game day. Now that sort of thing, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you mentioned over confidence. I don't think I would
Speaker 1: worry about that with this group, even though they are young,
Speaker 1: because man, they were. They were left in the ditch
Speaker 1: mid season last year and had to crawl their way back,
Speaker 1: and I think that's a good lesson for a young group, honestly,
Speaker 1: and Amari obviously it's a big part of that. But
Speaker 1: everybody kind of pulled together to get this thing back
Speaker 1: on the road, and I think that's a good lesson.
Speaker 1: I think there was a ditch after the loss to
Speaker 1: the Rams. I don't think people initially, before all this started,
Speaker 1: people took this team seriously. You know, if you looked
Speaker 1: at nationally power rankings twelfth, fifteenth, no one was taking
Speaker 1: them seriously. Now I see the tide turning, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this team might be pretty good. Now Locally people are
Speaker 1: picking the Cowboys to win the division. But now nationally,
Speaker 1: isn't it that they're they're going Eagles. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And usually the players are watching the national shows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's that's what they're seeing. Yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that I think it'll be it's you know, you go
Speaker 1: player by player with Philadelphia, there's a lot of similarities
Speaker 1: between the two teams. If you talk about the offensive lines,
Speaker 1: you know, the skill I think, you know, they Eagles
Speaker 1: have better tight ends, the Cowboys likely better wide receivers.
Speaker 1: You know, say what you want about their quarterback, your quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know, both the same draft, you know, both similar records,
Speaker 1: both similar stats. Kind of a thing. So one stays
Speaker 1: healthy the other doesn't, you know. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: if you look at overall, you would say these teams
Speaker 1: are pretty evenly matched. And that's why I feel like
Speaker 1: that that that national people are looking at the Eagles.
Speaker 1: You know, the Eagles have in the last couple of
Speaker 1: years want a super Bowl with that coach, So that's
Speaker 1: you know, that's probably thinking, okay, with that talented of
Speaker 1: roster and with that coach that gives them the edge
Speaker 1: O with the Cowboys right now, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: And then if you look across the conference, man, you
Speaker 1: can I mean, I think everybody feels like it's the
Speaker 1: Eagles are the biggest threat to the Cowboys over the
Speaker 1: course of the entire season in the division. But you
Speaker 1: can look at the other divisions and look at maybe
Speaker 1: at least two teams and say, wow, that's that's a
Speaker 1: playoff caliber team. It's a really good conference. And a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are on their schedule, so they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to be read. They're gonna have You're gonna
Speaker 1: see if this team is in fact what you would
Speaker 1: say bill a super Bowl team. By the time you
Speaker 1: get to the schedule, when you get to first of
Speaker 1: December and then you've made a trip to Foxborough and
Speaker 1: you've already played you know, you get the Rams, I
Speaker 1: think ahead and some other games like that. But you'll know,
Speaker 1: you'll know because you'll have a couple of Philadelphia games done.
Speaker 1: You'll have a you'll have your Saints game done, You'll
Speaker 1: have your Packers game done. You know, you'll you'll have
Speaker 1: a really good understanding of where your team is at
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Speaker 1: Check out the Thursday show for some of the breakdown
Speaker 1: on these New York Giants. But let's go around the horn.
Speaker 1: What concerns you the most about this opponent this week?
Speaker 1: The Giants? You know, I'll leave everyone else to talk
Speaker 1: about the runner, because I kind of feel like that's
Speaker 1: the direction I'm going to talk about something that could
Speaker 1: be a problem. I don't think the Giants can create
Speaker 1: much of a pass rush, Okay, So I feel like
Speaker 1: though that the James Betcher, the defensive coordinator for the
Speaker 1: Giants is going to have to come up with some
Speaker 1: creative ways to get pressure. I think that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: upfront can protect if if, in fact, he just tries
Speaker 1: to rush for but where he's going to have to attack?
Speaker 1: And I think he attacks because if Ezekieli does play,
Speaker 1: and he's one of the best bullets pickup guys I've
Speaker 1: ever seen, but how much is he really going to play?
Speaker 1: Can they catch him when he's not on the field
Speaker 1: and take advantage of say Tony Pollard or take advantage
Speaker 1: of Jamais Olawally. This is going to be the for
Speaker 1: what the Giants are going to have to do for
Speaker 1: their game plan, because if they just sit there and
Speaker 1: rush four all they Dallas will eat them up. And
Speaker 1: Garrett talked about their secondary being good and all that
Speaker 1: and having respect. He's right. They've got a couple of rookies.
Speaker 1: They got a rookie at the nickel, they got a
Speaker 1: rookie on the outside, they got a gambler on the
Speaker 1: other side. So you know, there's some things I think
Speaker 1: you could do this group, but they're going to have
Speaker 1: to create pressure. If the Giants are going to have success,
Speaker 1: it's going to be blitzing the Cowboys and seeing if
Speaker 1: these cowboy running backs can pick up the blitz and
Speaker 1: can handle the pressure in order to get the football off.
Speaker 1: That's something that would be concerning to me because Zeke
Speaker 1: hasn't had the training camp practices. Can you get him
Speaker 1: off the field? Is that Pollard in there? Is that
Speaker 1: Oldiwally in there? Who is the guy that's gonna be
Speaker 1: blitz picking up That's going to be the key for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys right now, Mick, would you like to take
Speaker 1: the runner? I'll take the runner. I just knew you, guys.
Speaker 1: I mean I was just trying to. I mean, there
Speaker 1: were very few things to worry about other self infliction.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that he's a guy that can
Speaker 1: take over the game. They did a pretty good job
Speaker 1: early last year against him when he was a rookie though,
Speaker 1: just starting off. But he did catch enough passes for
Speaker 1: eighty yards receiving in that first game. You know, the
Speaker 1: second game, I canna throw it out. They didn't play
Speaker 1: everybody on defense. I know Dak played and the whole bit,
Speaker 1: but they didn't have all their defensive guys on the field.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that they got to make sure
Speaker 1: that he doesn't single handedly take over the game because
Speaker 1: any play he's gone, right, he's gone. And I thought
Speaker 1: Rod Maronil he talked about it yesterday, comparing him with
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders. You know, you stop him for two, you
Speaker 1: stop him for three, and then he goes eighty. So
Speaker 1: I think that's the one thing they can't not allow
Speaker 1: to happen. They've got to make sure if the Giant
Speaker 1: score touchdowns, they got to drive the field. They don't
Speaker 1: get it all in one fail swoop. I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is a concern necessarily, but we've been pumping
Speaker 1: up this Cowboys defensive line all offseason, training camp, preseason,
Speaker 1: and speaking of the ditch, I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: people feel like Eli Manning, you know, he's in the
Speaker 1: twilight of his career all that if they can protect him,
Speaker 1: he can still beat you with his arm. And we
Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday. They've added a couple of pieces
Speaker 1: to the offensive line to try to help that. They've
Speaker 1: got to be able to get to him and affect
Speaker 1: him and prevent him from using that play action that
Speaker 1: they've they've used throughout his career that's been so effective,
Speaker 1: especially now at sa Quon as the runner. So we'll
Speaker 1: see how much does the Marcus Lawrence play How effective
Speaker 1: is he? And Mickey talked about the other guys in
Speaker 1: that rotation, Dorn's Armstrong, if Taco, whoever's active, can they
Speaker 1: can they affect the quarterback from mult multiple spots. That's
Speaker 1: a question off periscope, Rob and actually good ones. How
Speaker 1: much does the d line depth affect these this game?
Speaker 1: How much will that affect And you went right into
Speaker 1: that with you know all those and they've got some
Speaker 1: guys that that you know, haven't played a lot of
Speaker 1: snaps or played no snaps in training camp. When you
Speaker 1: talk about the two starters with Lawrence and then Crawford,
Speaker 1: you know, how do they go Do they go light
Speaker 1: at defensive tackle heavy at defensive end to kind of
Speaker 1: make up for that? So how they set up their roster?
Speaker 1: Usually they'll address eight, will they dress nine? You know
Speaker 1: if you take if you add one, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to take someone from somewhere else. So, yeah, the depth
Speaker 1: is going to be key for how they play in
Speaker 1: that rotation. I know Rod Marinelli Shoby Rod Mirinelli was
Speaker 1: talking about that yesterday. Yeah, and yeah, Rod said he
Speaker 1: likes what he's seeing from Tank and from Tyrone. To
Speaker 1: your point, they hadn't played much, hadn't practiced a whole lot,
Speaker 1: so he didn't give us an idea of how many
Speaker 1: snaps they might play. But we'll see. We'll see how
Speaker 1: they rotate those guys. And they've beefed up that interior too.
Speaker 1: You know, Antoine Woods was a godsend last year coming
Speaker 1: out of nowhere to help this defensive tackle rotation. Christian Covington,
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill. Can those guys get in the mix and
Speaker 1: help there as well. I think the key thing is
Speaker 1: when they put that forty six man roster together, and
Speaker 1: normally you only keep eight on the defensive line. I
Speaker 1: think maybe the last two spots come down to versatility.
Speaker 1: I agree, who can play end and who can brush
Speaker 1: the quarterback inside? Now we know Crawford can do both.
Speaker 1: We've seen Carrie Hyder do both good points, So I
Speaker 1: think you keep an eye on that. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they want to try to put our I'm strong
Speaker 1: inside or not. That's probably not Jackson maybe, but Jackson
Speaker 1: is a guy that can do both also, So they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to figure out. You know, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: two guys they're odd man out, So how do they
Speaker 1: come to that conclusion? But it could be I'll guarantee
Speaker 1: you it's a it's a rotation for sure, because they
Speaker 1: cannot wear out to Marcus Lawrence, you know, you can
Speaker 1: have all the legs you want, but remember he hadn't
Speaker 1: been taking much punishment on that shoulder that got repaired.
Speaker 1: Can I ask a question, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: put anybody on the spot here, but have you seen
Speaker 1: more from Taco than Dord's Armstrong? If you had to
Speaker 1: say if if you know, I mean, I know they
Speaker 1: love Doret's Armstrong, and they they you know, he got
Speaker 1: all the work and the OTA's and got a lot
Speaker 1: of work in training camp. But have you seen more
Speaker 1: from him or have you seen the improving Taco the
Speaker 1: last two not he didn't play the last preseason game,
Speaker 1: but the the the Rams game and then the Texans
Speaker 1: game to kind of make you feel like, well, maybe
Speaker 1: putting him in there might be a good thing. That's
Speaker 1: a good question because I think we talked about Lawrence's
Speaker 1: first step. That's pretty evident in the practices we watch
Speaker 1: every day. In the games, I'd say Taco has been
Speaker 1: more productive in the preseason game. But I think the
Speaker 1: key thing will be who's playing the run the best.
Speaker 1: See we all focus on who's rushing the quarterback, who's
Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback. If you remember last year early
Speaker 1: when the defense had problems, they were having problems against
Speaker 1: the run. They were having problems setting the edge to
Speaker 1: the point they needed Crawford to go back out to
Speaker 1: defensive end. So again, if DeMarcus and one of the
Speaker 1: great things DeMarcus Lawrence does is play the run. He's
Speaker 1: not just a fancy pass rusher. So that guy on
Speaker 1: that strong side better be able to play the run.
Speaker 1: And if Lawrence has to come out, who is it.
Speaker 1: They've been using Armstrong there if you think about it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes Jackson, I haven't seen Taco on the strong side.
Speaker 1: He's been on the right side. Jac Garrett told us
Speaker 1: that he felt like that Taco's best position was playing
Speaker 1: left end. Well, cho said, that's his best position. I said,
Speaker 1: but you got all your production trying in a preseason
Speaker 1: playing the right side. Used to playing that in college too,
Speaker 1: he was a left defensive end in Michigan. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you better be able to stand up against the run.
Speaker 1: He said, he'll play anywhere, but he was very he
Speaker 1: was asked the question, and you know the guy with
Speaker 1: the most power then is Joe Jackson. Yeah, Joe Jackson's
Speaker 1: the one that you got to kind of keep an
Speaker 1: eye on. And I'll tell you this though, keep an
Speaker 1: eye on what they might do with Tristan Hill, because
Speaker 1: if you know, if it if it comes down to, okay,
Speaker 1: we can get by with just having these many defensive tackles.
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill could be an odd man guy out here.
Speaker 1: And Okay, we've got a dress. We've got a dress. Armstrong,
Speaker 1: we gotta dress. Taco, We've got address Hider, we got
Speaker 1: a dress. You know. I mean, you start talking about
Speaker 1: all the guys that they need to have, and then
Speaker 1: Mickey's right. The flexibility. Joe Jackson has flexibility. He could
Speaker 1: play either end or he could play as the under tackle.
Speaker 1: So Joe Jackson might be a surprised dress over say
Speaker 1: a Tristan Hill. Well, I could see, I mean, I
Speaker 1: could see that. Yeah, I mean I look about that.
Speaker 1: That's a good man. Haven't considered the fact that Tristan Hills.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at Mickey got me to look at
Speaker 1: They're they're gonna have to go long there and you
Speaker 1: go short on the offensive line. We can keep more
Speaker 1: than seven on the offensive lines. We said yesterday, you can.
Speaker 1: You can knock out three guys for the forty six already. Yeah, Gifford,
Speaker 1: Thompson Wilson haven't practiced all week. If they're not practicing today, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got some issues at safety, even to the point
Speaker 1: even to the point where C. J. Goodwin is having
Speaker 1: to take some reps safety, And that affects things as
Speaker 1: far as special teams go. When you've got when you've
Speaker 1: got two safeties and a linebacker already, Okay, that aren't
Speaker 1: going to be on your game day roster, right and
Speaker 1: then so when we are we still in agreement on
Speaker 1: the roster move to get Zeke on the roster, which
Speaker 1: would have to come by tomorrow. Yeah, And I asked you,
Speaker 1: you know, I I've still you know, to me, I
Speaker 1: was trying to read between the line with Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: today and the press conference questions about Alfred, a lot
Speaker 1: of questions about Alfred Morris. He talked about Alfred Morris
Speaker 1: in a very positive light. And I just feel like
Speaker 1: though that I'm gonna still go with it. I'm still
Speaker 1: gonna go with that thought that they're gonna, they're gonna address,
Speaker 1: They're gonna, they're gonna they need Chun. Now, they could
Speaker 1: switch Chun out if they feel like that. Okay, Alfred's okay,
Speaker 1: but Alfred plays. Alfred's gonna play. How many plays is
Speaker 1: Alfred gonna play at running back? And how many plays
Speaker 1: is he gonna play on special teams? I could tell
Speaker 1: you that he's gonna play none. So although early in
Speaker 1: the week they had him working with the coverage units. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: now I don't know if that means yeah, but that
Speaker 1: was before Zeke. See that's what I'm saying. Yeah to
Speaker 1: me that if you're addressing a guy in your forty six,
Speaker 1: that's or that's only gonna play three plays because you're
Speaker 1: gonna trust Pollard to play. And we talked about it.
Speaker 1: If it comes down to passing and they don't trust
Speaker 1: him to play in the Blitz pick up Olva Wally
Speaker 1: is one of your better Blitz pick up guys. So
Speaker 1: bigger picture the season, Zeke hasn't been hurt in his career.
Speaker 1: But if Zeke got hurt, do you want Alfred Morris
Speaker 1: on this roster? Yeah? Yeah, So I didn't look at
Speaker 1: and are the coaches can look at Okay, yeah, but
Speaker 1: they were. They were prepared Bill to start Pollard. They
Speaker 1: were prepared. I mean, I'm one of these guys. It said,
Speaker 1: if they had to play tomorrow against the Giants, they
Speaker 1: would coach. I mean you would still need another season
Speaker 1: running back. Yeah, you know that you can depend on
Speaker 1: if if there was an injury, I watch it would
Speaker 1: be how far do you want to extend this insurance policle,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put him Taxi squad. Taxi squad. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a back in the day line that's way over my head.
Speaker 1: We don't get we don't get that. We don't do that.
Speaker 1: And he would literally just be a taxi or be
Speaker 1: an uber, right, yeah, taxi squad. I just don't Rob
Speaker 1: was talking about her. I think everybody agrees this is
Speaker 1: a really deep roster. Now, okay, do you sit there.
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to put they They've gone
Speaker 1: through this whole struggle of getting Brandon Knight on the
Speaker 1: active roster. Obviously they feel like, you know, if you
Speaker 1: just said, oh, well, Brandon Knight, we're gonna now maybe
Speaker 1: it's a thing where Okay, nobody's gonna claim Brandon Knight
Speaker 1: on a Saturday, you know, that kind of thing. But
Speaker 1: put it by one. Are these personnel guys around the
Speaker 1: league to go, wait a minute, an offensive lineman's out
Speaker 1: there and we're playing with like we got three bad
Speaker 1: offensive lineman at the end of our roster and maybe
Speaker 1: we had a draftable grade on him. And that's that's
Speaker 1: what I always say about those rookie guys. Or do
Speaker 1: they or do they look at it? Okay, we can
Speaker 1: get through special teams this week without Chun until you
Speaker 1: run Chun off the roster and then back on whatever. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. If you needed think about the
Speaker 1: linebackers that don't play special teams, vander esh Smith, Lee,
Speaker 1: that's three of your six that are dressing that played
Speaker 1: no special teams. They might turn around say, okay, Chunt's
Speaker 1: off and Gifford's probably not going to be active. Yeah
Speaker 1: exactly right. Yeah, so chucking off and then do you
Speaker 1: bring Cubington up? You know, I mean there's all kinds
Speaker 1: of po you still have to cut somebody. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's why I think Alfred Moore's
Speaker 1: to me makes the most sense. Alfred Moore's thank you
Speaker 1: I kind of it was kind of like a little
Speaker 1: kind of seeing my mind is Jason Garrett giving him
Speaker 1: a nice sind off, like thank you for everything you've done.
Speaker 1: Alfred Moore's kind of a thing. So if Alfred's off,
Speaker 1: chun's gotta be active, right right, right, So now he
Speaker 1: plays special teams for all those linebackers. Yeah, he's line
Speaker 1: or they switch Cubington out. They bring Cubington up to
Speaker 1: play special teams and switch. Yeah, two ros. So the
Speaker 1: only the only way I can see you do it.
Speaker 1: If if Saint Morris is off, right, Okay, you've got
Speaker 1: three guys that are injured, they're they're inactive, right, You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to do two defensive linemen and two offensive linemen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to get to seven for right, to get to your
Speaker 1: forty six. Yeah, because otherwise you can't. You can't. I
Speaker 1: don't think you can cheat it. You can go four
Speaker 1: wide receivers. I would not dress Smith Smith Smith is
Speaker 1: Smith is a luxury. Yeah, Smith's a luxury to me.
Speaker 1: You're not doing it at safety. I got three tight
Speaker 1: end cornerback because you're already down one one safety right
Speaker 1: right right, See that's what tight ends. Only three three
Speaker 1: and need your full back, right, you need a backup quarterback?
Speaker 1: That's yeah. So yeah, the wide receiver. Can you go
Speaker 1: in with four? Yes, yeah you could. I'm going some
Speaker 1: of the wide root. Now. The problem is if something
Speaker 1: happens to Cooper, but but the Randall cobbs your next
Speaker 1: guy up. But then you're then you're in a situation
Speaker 1: too where you can say Pollard could play as if
Speaker 1: you had what I was thinking, you can line him up. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: you know there you go? Yeah, all right, uh, all right,
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Speaker 1: Zeke zee ze Yeah it was Zeke. I wish Jerry
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Speaker 1: to go with some picks to click in our last
Speaker 1: five minutes here? Let Mike you start this day. You
Speaker 1: know what? I got it backwards because it was dak
Speaker 1: It was who da remember? Day to help myself out
Speaker 1: last shovel full of right on top. What do you want?
Speaker 1: I want you get a pick to click in the game.
Speaker 1: Pick a player, Pick a player. I just know what
Speaker 1: he's gonna steal mine. Who's that? Michael? Ahead and take it?
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup? Okay, I was ahead. I knew it. I
Speaker 1: knew it well. I mean we talked about it. It's
Speaker 1: a young secondary, it's a talented, giant secondary. I'm more
Speaker 1: looking at the fact that Gallup has been excellent in
Speaker 1: the preseason and all the camp games or camp practices. Um.
Speaker 1: I think he's prime for a big year. I really do. Um.
Speaker 1: Now it's gonna come doubt how many balls he gets
Speaker 1: thrown out him. Mamari Cooper's back, but um, he's he could.
Speaker 1: He might be able to light it up on Sunday.
Speaker 1: We'll see, Okay, Michael Gallop, So since you did that,
Speaker 1: I will go with de Marcus Lawrence. I think he's
Speaker 1: chomping at the bit to get going after kind of
Speaker 1: holding him back all during the preseason, all during training camp,
Speaker 1: and I think he will take advantage of whatever the
Speaker 1: Giants put out there on their offensive line. Okay, do
Speaker 1: you want to go ahead? I'll go with the star
Speaker 1: of the preseason, Malik Collins. There you got. He's my guy,
Speaker 1: whether it's in the run game or getting some penetration
Speaker 1: up the middle. One, Lie Manning, do you want to Collins?
Speaker 1: And his presence will be felt whether it's on a
Speaker 1: stat sheet or not. Do you want to walk him
Speaker 1: upstairs and see get him a new contract? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's any how much of that pie
Speaker 1: is like plenty of pie. You know the guys will
Speaker 1: be happy to see him if he shows up in
Speaker 1: that door. I'm gonna go with Layton vander esh because
Speaker 1: I think the Giants offensively are going to it. This
Speaker 1: is a big offensive line, it's approved offensive line. They've
Speaker 1: had some problems I talked about Rumers the right to tackle.
Speaker 1: I think he's better than what they played at with
Speaker 1: the Bobby Hearts of the world. The Wheelers guys like
Speaker 1: that that they've run out there in the past. So
Speaker 1: I feel like though, but he's been a little banged up,
Speaker 1: but he should make to start there at right tackle.
Speaker 1: But I think overall the Giants with their offensive line
Speaker 1: are gonna have trouble getting blockers to these linebackers. You
Speaker 1: could have gone either way. You could have gone Smith
Speaker 1: or vander Esh. But if you allow either one of
Speaker 1: those guys to run to the football the way they can,
Speaker 1: they're gonna make a ton of tackles. And you need
Speaker 1: to make tackles with the Sequon Barkley in the backfield.
Speaker 1: So give me Layton vander Esh at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, Yes, look at that stat sheet. He will
Speaker 1: likely be on the very top of it after playing
Speaker 1: very well against these New York Football Giants. How do
Speaker 1: they handle Evan Ingram. That's gonna be a trick and
Speaker 1: you it's likely going to be there, or it's safeties
Speaker 1: like we talked about, They're likely going to use Jeff Heath.
Speaker 1: We've seen that in the past. The way he's had
Speaker 1: to deal with the tight ends to play in this division.
Speaker 1: I think they will mix some things up. I think
Speaker 1: you'll see Xavier Woods played down in the in the
Speaker 1: box and try and help them with some coverage with
Speaker 1: with Ingram, I would personally treat him like a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: So you might see Byron Jones maybe that they played dime.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll see some Byron Jones or or or George
Speaker 1: Lewis walk over the top of him and match them
Speaker 1: the way they had. But it's gonna be Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: initially and then figure out how you want to kind
Speaker 1: of mix things up, not to give them a good
Speaker 1: read on that. All right, very good, and hopefully I
Speaker 1: don't want to go to school with what the Rams
Speaker 1: did when Heath was trying to cover the tight end
Speaker 1: in motion yea in that game and he got blocked
Speaker 1: in the middle of the play and no flag. It
Speaker 1: was a huge play too. Just want to point that out. Rob, Yes, Rob,
Speaker 1: are you going to take us home with a well,
Speaker 1: do you have you made predictions on a Cowboys record
Speaker 1: this season? Around the horn? Have you all made a
Speaker 1: prediction on that? I'll show up in my column today.
Speaker 1: One good feeling. Right, here's the way I break down
Speaker 1: the schedule. Okay, especially after watching Chicago and Green Bay,
Speaker 1: two opponents on this schedule, and I'm sitting there driving in,
Speaker 1: going all right, let's just break it down by division.
Speaker 1: I think they'll go three and one against the NFC North. Okay,
Speaker 1: they'll go three and one against the AFC East, five
Speaker 1: and one in the division, and they'll split the two
Speaker 1: games Rams Saints, which gives him a twelve and four
Speaker 1: record and a division title. That's the way I got
Speaker 1: it broken down. That seems very reasonable. Yeah, the loss
Speaker 1: the losses in New England, right, is that the loss?
Speaker 1: I'll put that in. What is your North loss? Well,
Speaker 1: I was thinking Minnesota, but they got Minnesota at home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it might be a surprise I'll go. I'll still
Speaker 1: go in Minnesota, whether Detroit Detroit, ye, yeah, flukey games
Speaker 1: if if lukey things always happened in that where yeah? Yeah? Uh.
Speaker 1: You think to split with the Saints and the Rams,
Speaker 1: which do you think they get? Let's get let's get
Speaker 1: the Rams at home at the Saints. That that to
Speaker 1: me is very reasonable. That's a very reasonable way of
Speaker 1: looking at this. It's weird when I went through it,
Speaker 1: I felt like that they would lose a game to Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: but I thought they'd lose the game to Philadelphia at
Speaker 1: home and then win the one on the road, which
Speaker 1: I kind of It's usually that's not the case, but
Speaker 1: you know, I I if I had two twelve and
Speaker 1: fourth sounds very reasonable to me as well. Final seconds.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on the record right now, Okay, and
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