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Speaker 1: And we welcome you into episode twenty one of the

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Speaker 1: best podcast available on Jason Gibbs alongside Andrew Gribble and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zagura. Happy Tuesday to you and yours, gentlemen, and

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Speaker 1: a lot going up UH still as the National Football

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Speaker 1: League continues to churn towards its schedule release, the next

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Speaker 1: big milestone for the league. But in addition, we have

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Speaker 1: some virtual rookie mini camps coming up, including our own,

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Speaker 1: and UH roster continues to take shape and we continue

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Speaker 1: to march our way toward September, August, maybe October, who knows.

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Speaker 1: We were just trying to figure out when we might

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Speaker 1: get back into our building, and clearly that's not going

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Speaker 1: to be anytime soon. That was the consensus, gentlemen. I

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Speaker 1: hope you both are doing well. UH. Latest NFL news

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Speaker 1: as we come to you on this Tuesday, and it

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Speaker 1: starts off unfortunately the passing of Don Shula and Ohio

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Speaker 1: and went to high school in Ohio went to John Carroll, UH,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately passing away at the age of ninety A full

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Speaker 1: life to say the least. Gribbs, your thoughts on the man,

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Speaker 1: the myth and arguably one of the top NFL coaches

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Speaker 1: in the history of this game. Yeah, I mean he

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Speaker 1: was just a He's a coaching legend and and form

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Speaker 1: for my generation growing up, it was like Don Shula

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Speaker 1: is like the name, like that's just like the greatest

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Speaker 1: coach that's that's been coaching for just he coached forever.

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Speaker 1: I mean he did thirty three seasons and then twenty

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Speaker 1: six with the Miami Dolphins and one two Super Bowls,

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Speaker 1: Guarden between. I mean, like you said, he lived a

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Speaker 1: First one is obviously the perfect season in nineteen seventy

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Speaker 1: two at the Miami Dolphins. And the second one to

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Speaker 1: me is two losing seasons out of thirty three. I

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Speaker 1: so he he was just the consistency in which he won,

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Speaker 1: which made him just a legend and why I think

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Speaker 1: his regular season's record might be might get caught by

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Speaker 1: be tough to catch. That was the guy's got the

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Speaker 1: most total wins in the history as a head coach,

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Speaker 1: freunder in forty seven, four time Coach of the Year,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, growing up it was Don Shula, Bill Walsh,

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Speaker 1: But when you thought of him and you go back Toto,

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Speaker 1: one of the four that's on there. Now. Will Brinson,

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Speaker 1: a friend of the show, had a good comment that

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Speaker 1: it four times, which is the most anybody's ever won it.

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Speaker 1: And I think that would be a nice tribute to him.

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Speaker 1: But a total icon, a legend. And like I said,

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Speaker 1: So unfortunately, our thoughts and our prayers are with him

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Speaker 1: the other news on this Tuesday, and it would be

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Speaker 1: the fifth year option status. All the status is are

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Speaker 1: in now for the top thirty two picks the first

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Speaker 1: round of the NFL Draft, Seventeen out of the thirty

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Speaker 1: Obviously Myles, Garrett, David and Joke who picked up by

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Speaker 1: for Nett, every one of those decisions makes sense. And

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Speaker 1: SEC mix right away from day one as a freshman.

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Speaker 1: Here's welcome to the gauntlet, here's Nick and company, and

429
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 1: you know, going all the way down the list of

430
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 1: teams in the SEC and and how good that conference was. Um,

431
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Speaker 1: I would think that you have to grow up pretty

432
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: quickly as an eighteen nineteen year old there. Yeah, yeah,

433
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: let's have to grow very fast. And you know, basically

434
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Speaker 1: you get to prior to prioritize, uh you know, what

435
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: you want. So you know, that's that's trying to learn

436
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: a playbook even more than you know other people know

437
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: to do is they might have to take those but

438
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: like you probably have to so getting your body right

439
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: do dudes might be able to eat this, but you

440
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: probably have to do this. So it took a lot,

441
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: but you know, uh, you know, very grateful for that experience.

442
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for uh you know, having played early and

443
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: got those reps because in my sophomore year starting every

444
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: game and in my junior years, so you know, I

445
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: think it was needed and uh, you know, I'm good

446
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: I got that with What was it like to go

447
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: up every day and practice against a guy like Joe

448
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 1: Burrow and that not just Joe Burrow, but that entire

449
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: offense was loaded. Yeah, you know, I feel like we

450
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 1: brought the best out of both sides, you know, throughout

451
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Speaker 1: fall camp, scrimmaging in them and uh you know, even

452
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: in practicing we have our competition days. Uh you know,

453
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: I think individually, you know, running backs against linebackers and

454
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: Steve was against thee bees and you know, the whole

455
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: team against the offense. So I feel like we brought

456
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Speaker 1: the best out of each other. You know, we coach,

457
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Speaker 1: I used to tell us that the best offense we're

458
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Speaker 1: gonna face, uh weekend and week out as offense that

459
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Speaker 1: we face a practice. So you know, I feel like

460
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Speaker 1: that was true and I feel like the same was

461
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Speaker 1: for the defense. So uh, you know, I'm grateful that

462
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Speaker 1: we we had a good team and we can make

463
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Speaker 1: each other better. What was that championship game experience like?

464
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Speaker 1: To to be able to end your college career hoist

465
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Speaker 1: in the National Championship Trophy? It was amazing feeling. You know,

466
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Speaker 1: as a kid, you always do me that moment, but

467
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Speaker 1: you know one team can do it so and there's

468
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: so many teams, so I mean you probably just like

469
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Speaker 1: it probably won't happen, but you know, to have worked

470
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Speaker 1: out hard and put in our eduication that we did

471
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Speaker 1: and to go fixteen and over really, uh, you know,

472
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Speaker 1: it's just I feel like we did it from his

473
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Speaker 1: job and you know we'll be we'll be in history forever.

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Speaker 1: So you get drafted by the Browns, you come to

475
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Speaker 1: Cleveland virtually, and I believe there will be a rookie

476
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Speaker 1: mini camp here this weekend and then you'll start getting

477
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Speaker 1: acclimated with the veterans. Have you been in touch with

478
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Speaker 1: guys in your in your linebacker room. To this point,

479
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Speaker 1: has anybody reached out even though he's an Alabama guy.

480
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Speaker 1: Mac Wilson reached out here. You're speaking terms. Yeah, yeah, Mac,

481
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Speaker 1: We've reached out and we talked out of town. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I feel like would be great, you know,

483
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Speaker 1: playing playing with each other, and you know, I feel

484
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Speaker 1: like you can really we're taking under his wing and

485
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, even though he's been there for you, but

486
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: so many other things that you know, I don't know.

487
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: This has become kind of l s U of the North, uh,

488
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Speaker 1: in terms of the players that are up here, of

489
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Speaker 1: any of the other l s U alums reached out

490
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Speaker 1: to you that are on this football team. Oh yeah, agreed.

491
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Speaker 1: I pusses a picture of me and uh, you know,

492
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Speaker 1: I still I still got to talk to him. But

493
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, what LU do is that they are close

494
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: to each other, and you know, I know that, you know,

495
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to get to work with him because

496
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Speaker 1: I know what they bring to the table. And I

497
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Speaker 1: feel like when you have a very good team, when

498
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Speaker 1: you take a look at the transition, it can be

499
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Speaker 1: a difficult one to the National Football League, but coming

500
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Speaker 1: in with a guy that you played with on the

501
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Speaker 1: defensive side of the football and Grant Delta. What what

502
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Speaker 1: did Grant do from a defensive standpoint when you were

503
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Speaker 1: at L s U to kind of help you guys

504
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: on the back side? You know, Grant was a dependable player.

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Speaker 1: You know, sometimes we're playing the box beside us and

506
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: sometimes we play back deep. So you know, I know

507
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Speaker 1: that it brings a lot of positive things to the team.

508
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I know he's gonna be successful.

509
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Speaker 1: What are your biggest goals here in your rookie year?

510
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a lot to expect for a

511
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Speaker 1: rookie to transition to the National Football League, but then

512
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: you get thrown this curveball that's going on and you know,

513
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: not being able to practice with your teammates right now.

514
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: What are your goals in the in this football season?

515
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Speaker 1: You know, I feel like I feel like goal is

516
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Speaker 1: kind of limit. You You know, obviously I have aspirations

517
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Speaker 1: and things that I want to do, but you know,

518
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Speaker 1: I have a open mind on you know, whatever guy's

519
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Speaker 1: gonna bust me with, and you know, hopefully that success

520
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: team success, you know, winning the Super Bowl or at

521
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: least making it to the playoffs. And uh, you know,

522
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Speaker 1: doing well there, but then also individually, you know, I

523
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Speaker 1: wanna I want to bring everything that I can to

524
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Speaker 1: the defense and uh, you know, having to be able

525
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Speaker 1: to uh know, basically without upon me to do my

526
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Speaker 1: job and to help the defense. All Right, what is

527
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: your go to food? If you if you can only

528
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Speaker 1: eat one meal, what is your go to food? Go

529
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Speaker 1: to food? Uh, it probably had to be wings. I

530
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: love wings. But if you know, speaking to L. S U,

531
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Speaker 1: if it if it had to be uh some type

532
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: of Cajun food, it would probably be uh it would

533
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: probably be uh tabo oysters a little. Those two really know,

534
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: And I'm assuming you hadn't had those prior to go

535
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: into L. S U. No, I hadn't. None of that stuff.

536
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: The keen cake, the oysters, the cough fis uh basically

537
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: anything you can have, the gumbo. All that stuff is

538
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: amazing food and I'm gonna miss it. Yeah, there's some

539
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: there's some good eats down and down there, that is

540
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: for sure. We have plenty of wings places, and I

541
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: mean there are some fantastic little hole in the walls

542
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Speaker 1: that do some fantastic wings. So uh, life will be

543
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: good minus the dietitian telling you what you can or

544
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: can't do. Obviously, we gotta play by those rules. But uh,

545
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: obviously looking forward to sending you some of those great

546
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: hotspots here once we get you up here. Uh. We

547
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Speaker 1: appreciate the time. We wish you all the best of luck,

548
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: good luck in the virtual offseason, and we look forward

549
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: to seeing you in a Brown's uniform at a position

550
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: that you know you can. You can make some strides

551
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: and I think you could be a pretty big impact

552
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: player here. So we were rooting for you and we

553
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: appreciate your time today. Wish you all the best of

554
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: luck here and I hope you and your family stay

555
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: safe through all this. Yeah, thank you very much. I

556
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: want to thank Jacob Phillips for his time. Definitely a

557
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: fascinating young man. MR Football and Tennessee Nathan. I know

558
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: what you've done some video work with him as well,

559
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: and you're working from home series. Uh. Your impressions of

560
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: the gentleman from l s U who is now a

561
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown, I think he just embodies what you know.

562
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Barry said they want tough, smart,

563
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: accountable football players and people with strong work ethics, and

564
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: he's he. I asked him, you know what, what's your style?

565
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: And he goes, I want to be the most dependable

566
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Speaker 1: guy on the field that there's like, whatever Jacob Phillips

567
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: is supposed to be doing, he's gonna do it, and

568
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about that. We can worry

569
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Speaker 1: about anything else. And so I think he wants to

570
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: work hard, he wants to learn this all uh and

571
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: get out there. But a kid that wants to be

572
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: dependable and reliable, and certainly as a tackler last year

573
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: he was just that right. I mean a hundred what

574
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: do you have? A hundred thirteen tackles? Only three miss

575
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: tackles led to sec in tackling. So uh, that's I

576
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: liked him. I was very impressed. I'm definitely a hard worker,

577
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: excited to do whatever he has to do to contribute

578
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: to this football team. Hass relationships obviously with two other

579
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: guys on the defense, and Greedy and and Grant Delpit

580
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: and obviously knows the legends on l s U and

581
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: O'Dell and Jarvison said they've all been talking and a

582
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: close relationship with Mack Wilson as well, which I found

583
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: pretty interesting. Two guys who are big time. You know,

584
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: recruits out of high school end up in the SEC together,

585
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: and he always emulated and looked up to Mack, he said,

586
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: And they talked for quite a bit after the draft,

587
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: and he loves being in the room with him because

588
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: Max trying to help him out as much as he can. Gribbs, Uh,

589
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: you take a look at our linebacker room. I mean

590
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: Phillips a kid that played freshman year at l s

591
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: U and had some success right from the get go.

592
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: Um a lot expected of him, but still with the

593
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: third round grade, Uh, probably more of a chance to

594
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: develop under and behind the guys that are currently in

595
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: that room. He's writing that in between zone where you'd

596
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: say good training camp, then he might be playing pretty

597
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: a lot. But at the same time, it's like Taki

598
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: Taki last year. If he doesn't get on the field,

599
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: it's not the worst thing in the world. So I

600
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: think there is definitely I would say Phillips has more

601
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: opportunity to get on the field this year than maybe

602
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: Taki Taki had last year. So it's gonna be a

603
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: young group no matter what. I think. The two guys

604
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: that I would say you could pencil in for sure

605
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: probably are B J. Goodson and mac Wilson. I think

606
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 1: they were going to have some kind of role this year,

607
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,239
Speaker 1: and then I think it's up for grabs between a

608
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: lot of other young players and we'll see. There's there's

609
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: always room for potentially more to add to this roster

610
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: h in the coming weeks and months. So uh, definitely

611
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: probably not done adding to that group. But no matter

612
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: what it's, it's gonna skew young when you get to

613
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, no question about it. All right, Well, anyways,

614
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: we appreciate his time, wish him all the best of luck.

615
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: It is just tough right now for rookies. Everything's virtual,

616
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, there's no there's nothing in person. There's no

617
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: O T A S. There's no rookie mini camp, there's

618
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: no mandatory mini camp for vets and rookies in June.

619
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Speaker 1: Right now, there's nothing except virtual learning. So here's hoping

620
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: that he picks up that playbook as quickly as he

621
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: picked up the one at l s U. Alright, moving

622
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: on overall big picture NFL draft winners and losers from

623
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Speaker 1: the trade market. I would love to say that I

624
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: came up with this on my own. I did not.

625
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: I saw it in Peter King's column. I thought it

626
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: would be fun for us to go through and talk

627
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: about some of the winners and the losers, and you

628
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 1: guys tell me who won which particular trade as we

629
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: go through some of the bigger ones in this draft

630
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: and leading up to this draft. Uh, the DeForest Buckinger

631
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: trade will start off with that a team near and

632
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: dear to Zagura's heart, the forty Niners trading Buckner to

633
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: Indianapolis for a first round pick thirteenth overall. The Colts

634
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: get a top three NFL defensive tackle and paid Buckner

635
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: like one four years eighty four million san France for

636
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: trading down one spot in the first first round pick

637
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: defensive tackle Javon kin Law. Zagura, since the forty Niners

638
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: are your second team, that's right, let you go first. Well,

639
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: I think if you're looking today, you saying the Coats,

640
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: because they got a great player in DeForest Buckner. You

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Speaker 1: know what he's got, what he is if and if

642
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Speaker 1: Javon Kinlaw is as good as a lot of people

643
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be coming this draft, and the

644
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: Niners just pulled off a magical move in the sense

645
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: that they replaced the guy that they feel has similar

646
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: talent similar upside, but is gonna be compensated like a

647
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: rookie for the next four maybe five years, as opposed

648
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: to shelling out this money because they're gonna have to

649
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: pay and they know it. Kittle's coming up, They're gonna

650
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: have to pay, you know, Nick Bosa in the future.

651
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: So they had decisions that they had to make, and

652
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: they decided, we can save money, put that to other guys.

653
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: We know we want to keep more than Buck or

654
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: nothing against him, but and get a guy that we

655
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 1: think might be just as good replacing it. So if

656
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: kim Law is what he's supposed to be, the Niners

657
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: win it in a landslide. I think it's one of those.

658
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: It's a win win the cold scope. They got Philip Rivers,

659
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: they're going after it, and they got a player who

660
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: could immediately come in and play an all pro level.

661
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna agree with you, but I'm gonna take this

662
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: one step further. I think that even if kin Law's average,

663
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: I think the forty Niners won this trade. I I

664
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: just don't the price that you had to know the

665
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: forty Niners weren't and we're not in a position to

666
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: keep this guy and I think that giving up a

667
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: high draft pick, I mean at first half of the

668
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: draft draft pick to get a guy in and then

669
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: pay him a ton of money. I just I think

670
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: I thought I could believe that trade, and it just

671
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: seemed so unlike what the Colts have done in these

672
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: last few years, uh with Chris Ballard's their GM. I

673
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: was I was surprised by it, and I think that

674
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: obviously the Colts are going to be better because of it,

675
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: But I just I don't. I don't like parting with

676
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: a first round pick to get a guy that I

677
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: then have to pay a ton of money too. I

678
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: just don't. I didn't understand that trade. And I think

679
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: that I think Buckner's a really good player, but I

680
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: and I get that he's probably I would I'd say

681
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 1: odds are safe he'll be a better player than Javon

682
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: Kimlaw will be because that's a lot of pressure on

683
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: kim Law. But that's a big asset to part with

684
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: with a team that really I didn't think the four

685
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: Ner has had that much leverage. Yeah, And the flip

686
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: side of it is the Colts could have just stayed

687
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: right there, spent that money on free agents and just

688
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: drafted kid law themselves, right. I thought it was I mean,

689
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: I thought, what is paid to get D four the

690
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: previous year? It was like a second round pick that

691
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: that's the most. I mean, look what the Browns had

692
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: to give up to get Jarvis Landry, you know, like

693
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: a future fourth and a seventh, Like for teams that

694
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: are in a position to not sign these guys yet.

695
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: First round pick was a lot, especially a high first

696
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 1: round there. Wait till wait to get to the Tannehill trade.

697
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: Think about what the Tennessee Titans gave up to get there.

698
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: What looks like maybe a franchise quarterback. Let's get to that.

699
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: Nice tease. The Minca Fitzpatrick Ryan Tannehill intertwined trades. Gribble,

700
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: you'll leave this one off. In two thousand nineteen, Miami

701
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: traded Tannehill in a sixth round picked Tennessee for a

702
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: fourth round in and a seventh, and Miami traded safety

703
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: makeup Fitzpatrick and Tennessee's fourth round pick this year to

704
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh for first and fifth round picks this year and

705
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick next year. I'll be a quiz

706
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: after I get done getting through this. Miami got the player.

707
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: Who better be their left tackle the future, USC's Austin

708
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: Jackson and a fifth round defense event Tennessee got Tannehill

709
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: and a backup linebacker. Pittsburgh got Fitzpatrick and a guard

710
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: from Louis sienna In Kevin Dotson Gribble Miami, Tennessee, Pittsburgh.

711
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: Who won who lost? Of these three? I'm gonna go

712
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: with Pittsburgh won the trade, and I think the Dolphins

713
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: lost the trade. I just, I just I don't understand

714
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: how when you're rebuilding the team, why why are you

715
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: not rebuilding with the guy with a second year safety

716
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: who could be really really good? And I just who

717
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: apparently as all the high character that you want and

718
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: a player has been everything for the Steelers. He completely

719
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: transformed the Steelers defense and one of the best in

720
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. And I just, I mean, I I assume

721
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: Austin Jackson will be good, but they could have gotten

722
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: another tackle without that pick. So I just think I

723
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: think the Steelers won that trade because they got an

724
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: all pro safety for a first round pick that would

725
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: not have produced an all pro safety as young as

726
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: makeup Fitzpatrick. And I think that the Titans, I mean,

727
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: it's it's some good circumstances, but they didn't exactly reinvent

728
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: the wheel with that kind of acquisition. I mean that

729
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: that was I mean that was there was a basic

730
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: They got lucky with the guy that that could be

731
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: pretty good next year, maybe he won't be. The Titans

732
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: won the trade because they get a they get a

733
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: guy that they think, I mean, they want ninety million guaranteed.

734
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: They think he just took him the n f C

735
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: Championship gameplay as well as any quarterback league, and they

736
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: give a fourth and a seventh. So, just from the

737
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: quarterback value standpoint, if Tannehill is good and it isn't,

738
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: if let me go and I'm a big Bryan Tannehill guy,

739
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: I think he was very very good last year. But

740
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: just to get you can't get quarterbacks for that, I mean,

741
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: you can get position players that you can't get a

742
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: quarterback for that, let alone a ninety million dollar man

743
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: for a fourth and a seventh. Big deal. They win,

744
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh wins number two. They're in a class all themselves,

745
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: and then the Dolphins lose this trade so badly. Basically,

746
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: the Dolphins got Austin Jackson for Minka Fitzpatrick and Ryan

747
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: tan Hill. That's not a good trade. That's not good trade,

748
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: no matter even if if he ends up being the

749
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: next Joe Thomas, that's not a good trade. So Dolphins lose.

750
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: Everybody else would Yeah, I would say the risk factor

751
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: on the Steeler's end makes me that's why I picked them,

752
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: because they were owin two and Roethlisberger was hurt when

753
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: they made that trade. I mean, they put it all

754
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: on the line, on the on the shoulders of Mason Rudolphin,

755
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: Duck Hodges to get that pick to where it would

756
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: be when it could have been a top five pick,

757
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: could have been top five, they could have had four

758
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: and five Minca Fitzpatrick almost along with the rest of

759
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: that defense, which played great, turn that into a later

760
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: pick than then it would have otherwise been. And that's

761
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: where again, that's where things get a little bit dicey.

762
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: But the yeah, the Dolphins, the net and net of

763
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: it is not good for them at the time, a

764
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: little too obsessed with assets at the time. It could

765
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: have been good if it ends up being a fourth pick,

766
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: like for the Browns when we made that trade and

767
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: end up getting Denzel Ward and Baker in the same draft.

768
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: You know, then you look at it a little bit differently,

769
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: But unfortunately that's not what happened in Minka. Fitzpatrick, by

770
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: the way, is young and is a star. I mean,

771
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: I loved that pick. I loved him in Alabama. I

772
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: want him to come to the Browns. I don't understand

773
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: why you just give him away, And what were you

774
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: gonna hope to get, like replace him with somebody that

775
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: you thought was just as good as him. I don't know.

776
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: I just didn't make a lot of sense. I think

777
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: they were doing it. They've given up on Sill. Turns

778
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: out maybe Gates was more of the problem, because everybody

779
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: as soon as he leaves, Hanna Hill blows up. Drake

780
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: gets out of there, he blows up, DeVante Parker blows up.

781
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: So maybe they just evaluated a lot of stuff poorly

782
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: down there. Yeah, all right, the girl, you kick us

783
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: off on this one like that. The Montes, so I

784
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: knew you'd find a way to work it in Indianapolis

785
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: traded its first round pick in to Washington for second

786
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: round picks in nineteen and twenty. The Colts turned the

787
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: twenty second rounder into a into second and fifth round picks.

788
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 1: Washington got sweat Indianapolis got usc white out Michael Pittman

789
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: this year, plus a defensive end and a corner last year.

790
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: Montes Sweat trade winner or loser? Uh? And which team

791
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: is a girl? I'm pulling up right now. I'm trying

792
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: to look at his stats as a rookie month as

793
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: Sweat and so I'm guessing where it is here. Right here,

794
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: he had since sacks as a rookie. That's pretty good too,

795
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: forced fumbles, so you think he's a long term edge

796
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: rusher compliment on the other side of Chase Young, so

797
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: you feel like you got a long term edge rusher

798
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: and him. Now, I don't know that anybody likes a

799
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 1: player in this draft as much as Frank Reich seems

800
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: like Michael Pittman. So from the cold standpoint, they're probably

801
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: thrilled to have Michael Pittman. Uh. This is this is

802
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it's this. This is a too early

803
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: to call. I think if Montes Sweat ends up being

804
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: an eight plus that guy you know for his career,

805
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: then they're gonna win the trade. But Pittman could end

806
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: up being a yard twelve touchdown receiver. I think this

807
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: one's it's too early to tall because they're both still

808
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: the prospects and developing. In my mind, Yeah, I'm glad

809
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: you got that one first, because that my answer too.

810
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: I think probably the Redskins end up winning this. But

811
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: if Montes Sweat stays healthy because remember in that draft,

812
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: he was supposed to go a lot higher. Yeah, but

813
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: then there was the issue with the medical. But it's

814
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: it seems like everything's okay, So they got some value there.

815
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, pass rushers can come and go.

816
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean I'll take the gamble and a pass rusher

817
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: because Colts probably could have gotten a wide receiver at

818
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: some point in this draft. It was pretty loaded no

819
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: matter what. So I'll side with the Redskins for now.

820
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: All right. Next up, Uh, I don't even we don't

821
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: even need to talk about the DeAndre Hopkins trade. I

822
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: think we can all agree no matter what Ross Blacklock

823
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: might develop into, um Arizona won the trade hands down.

824
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: We'll just move on to them as today. Yes, absolutely, yeah. Uh.

825
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: The Rob Gronkowski trade, Patriots trading Grounk and the seventh

826
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: rounder to Tampa for a fourth rounder. The Patriots package

827
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: that fourth round pick to the Raiders and a larger

828
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: deal for a third New England got a tight end

829
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: from U. C. L A. With the ninety first overall

830
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: pick is the main piece. Tampa got Gronk and a

831
00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: linebacker Gribble. Who won this trade? Who lost? I would

832
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: go with the Patriots won the trade because they went

833
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: from having zero tight ends to one tight end. That

834
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: I would say if I could trade zero tight ends

835
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: for a tight end, that that that's a win for me.

836
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: Gronkowski wasn't gonna go play for the Patriots to get

837
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick out of it that you turn

838
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: into a third to win for me? Yeah, A lot

839
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: of people like Devon ASIASI, So we'll see what he becomes.

840
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: I think they both win. The Buccaneers get Rob Gronkowski

841
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: for a fourth round pick to play with Tom Brady.

842
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Their goals to win a Super Bowl

843
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: this year, certainly to go to the playoffs, Oh, come

844
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: on down grown. Yes, it's spectacular. But the Patriots get

845
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: says he said something for nothing. There was an asset

846
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: that was gone and that was back, and it turns

847
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: into a player and maybe he'll be good. But I

848
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: think they both went ideal for both sides. Does Tampa

849
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: have any three tight end sets to get Gronk on

850
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: the field this year. Yeah, they're gonna have to figure

851
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: out look, Caper and Break might get bumped out of

852
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: the rotation grip. Sorry all right. Next up, the Khalil

853
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: Mack trade. Uh and this is the next interesting one.

854
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: Chicago traded the first in sixth round pick in nineteen

855
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: and first and third round picks in twenty for Khalil

856
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: mack is second and seventh round pick in twenty. So

857
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: Chicago got Mac, tight end, Cole Commit and a guard.

858
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: Las Vegas got running back Josh Jacobs, a tight end,

859
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: and Foster Moreau not in that exact draft slot because

860
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: the pick was traded back twice, more a corner, and

861
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: Damon Arnett and white out Brian Edwards Zagura Who won

862
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: the trade this one? I think it's too early to tell.

863
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 1: I think initially obviously the Bears won the trade. Khalil

864
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: Mac came in made a massive impact on that Chicago team.

865
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: You have two guys that are pretty much projections in

866
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: the sense that Damon our nets very very talented from

867
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Brian Edwards, a lot of people thought was

868
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: maybe a first round talent, but was injured. It couldn't run,

869
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: and so they do. They get a good value on him.

870
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: Time will tell. I mean, in reality, could end up

871
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: being three number one type of talents and Jacobs in

872
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: our net and Brian Edwards. I would wish the Bears

873
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: and maybe cool Comets gonna be great. Maybe he will be.

874
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people wish the Bears

875
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: maybe did something more with that second round pick from

876
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: the trade to to even it out. But this will be.

877
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: It depends on what the Raiders guys become. But Khalil

878
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: Max certainly is the most impactful player in this entire

879
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: group and plays the most important position of anybody in

880
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: this group. Yeah, I'm ready to rule this in favor

881
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: of the Bears. I just I'm I don't believe in

882
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: these four quarters for a dollar trade, which I think

883
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: is is kind of what fantasy football. It's a staple

884
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,479
Speaker 1: of fantasy football, the four quarters for a dollar. Yeah,

885
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: and I get Joss Jacobs is really good. Uh, Damon Arnett.

886
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: Most people did not like that pick, but I mean,

887
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: he's still it's not fair to even judge him yet.

888
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: But Clil Mac is a I would say I tossed

889
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: this around lately. He's a generational pass thresher and generational defender.

890
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: He's really good and he he's a franchise changing player.

891
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: He near he nearly took them to the to the

892
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I think if the league were disbanded and

893
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: drafted in a fantasy draft, Khalil Mack is probably going

894
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: in the top half of the first round. That's with

895
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks being included. Right, No, none of these guys that

896
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: are going in the first three rounds in a draft.

897
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: It's you're you're put your stack in the odds against

898
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: yourself because it's it's really easy to make these trades

899
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: and get get these assets, but then to turn those

900
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: into like great players, it's tough. Like it's you're you're

901
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: got you gotta hit on you gotta not only hit

902
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: on some of these players, but hit on them like

903
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: really well. And I think they got they hit up.

904
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: I think they got more value out of Josh Jacobs

905
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: than they might have anticipated in year one. But it's

906
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: a it's a wait and see on the rest of

907
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: these guys. Alright, final one. This again compliments of Peter

908
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: King and Football Morning in America. Appreciate the the the

909
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: material for today's best podcast available to Stefon Diggs trade GRIBs.

910
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo traded at first, a fifth and a sixth and

911
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: a fourth rounder next year to Minnesota UH for wide

912
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: receiver Stefon Diggs and a seventh round pick. Buffalo gets Diggs.

913
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: Minnesota got diggs replacement l s U White out Justin

914
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: Jefferson with the twenty second pick in the draft, and

915
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: trade of the other two picks for fourth and fifth

916
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: round picks next year. Ribbs who won this trade today,

917
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what to say because, like

918
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: I think that I think the Bills will have a

919
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: better player ultimately than than what the Vikings will get.

920
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: I just think that they still overpaid. I just didn't

921
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: think that a first round pick was maybe necessary in

922
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: this kind of trade. I think that the Vikings might

923
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: be a better team overall after this, but I think

924
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: the Bills got a better player, so I'm calling it

925
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: a draw at this point. I just can't. I didn't

926
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: love the trade because I thought it was too much,

927
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: especially when DeAndre Hopkins when day before for for so

928
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: much less. And I'll be interesting to see how Diggs

929
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: does in his environment, because, like I mentor with Tennessee earlier,

930
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo is a place that that doesn't exactly bring the

931
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: best out of some of these wide receivers. And and

932
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: we'll see how he fares with Josh Allen. You gotta

933
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: go back to the days of Eric Moulds and Andre

934
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: Reid to get some good Bills wide receivers. So this

935
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: is gonna be I think that are Steve Johnson when

936
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: he was the only person who could solve Rivas Island.

937
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: But I think from your the point you just made,

938
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: from the value proposition, the DeAndre Hopkins train in this rate,

939
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: the Bills lost it from the fact that this was

940
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 1: one of the most historic wide receiver drafts. They could

941
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: just stay there and take it a receiver because they're

942
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: gonna have to paste upon Daggs and the receiver would

943
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: be a rookie. So I think I would. I think

944
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: the Bills lost it from a strategic standpoint. I think

945
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: that when they step on the field Week one, Stefon

946
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: Diggs will be a better player than Justin Jefferson will

947
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: be long term, I don't know. I think Justin Jeffson's

948
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: pretty darn good. I do think they'll they're trying to

949
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: say Brady's gone, Let's win the A F c East

950
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: this year. Let's get this guy in here and let's go.

951
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about Stefan Days is

952
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: a true number one receiver either, I don't. I don't know.

953
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: If it was more of a product of a dynamic

954
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 1: duo in Minnesota, I'll be interesting to see him can't

955
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: really carry load in Buffalo. What they're gonna hope is

956
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen's athleticism stresses defense. Is obviously single arry

957
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: in the ground game, but that John Brown speed and

958
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: John Brown had a very nice year last year, opens

959
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: up the crossing routes and all the things that Stefon

960
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: Diggs does very very well. The problem is, and he's

961
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: gonna learn this. Josh Allen, while very good, you have

962
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: to respect he did last year, is not going to

963
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: be as precise with the football as Kirk Cousins was.

964
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: And for a guy that does a lot of his

965
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: best work catching and stride making plays after you wonder

966
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: how that's gonna impact him. The body language police will

967
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: be out in full force. Yeah, maybe as early as

968
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: the preseason. After that, let's hope we have them. Yeah,

969
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: well yeah, if we have one. Alright, So those are

970
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: the draft winners. And losers draft trades. All right, let's

971
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: have a little fun. Which contract would you rather have?

972
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, Ryan Tannehill, Tom Brady or Drew Brees. We

973
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: will start with you because I can see the girl

974
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: need some I'm gonna need some numbers here. I didn't.

975
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I was prepped pre show for

976
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: these fridge Waters. Basically like three year sixty three forty guaranteed,

977
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: tanne Hills over ninety guaranteed, and Brady and Breeze are

978
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: making a ton of money, but they're Brady and Breeze.

979
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: Breeze got two years fifty million. Brady, I'll go with

980
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rank this, and I'm gonna surprise you with this.

981
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rank it Breeze. So the contract I would

982
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: much prefer, I'm ranking it Breeze, Brady, Bridgewater, Tan Hille.

983
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: I think that those were some bigger numbers than I

984
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: would have liked for two guys that I don't know

985
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: if I can bank on them, like I just I

986
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: think Bridgewater and Tannehill had good individual time seasons, but

987
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: nothing that tells that nothing that tells me up that

988
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 1: my quarterback position is fully settled, Like I'm not taking

989
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: I can't take the Panthers out of the Trevor Lawrence

990
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: Sweepstakes next year just because I got Teddy Bridgewater to

991
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: Night with Tannehill. I that's he was fine last year.

992
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: I think he was. He's okay. I think he won

993
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: games for them. I just I don't know if I

994
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: can bank on a long term Freeze and Brady. Those

995
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: are short deals. You know what you're gonna get, and

996
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: you have quick escapes with both those. That's why I

997
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: like those better. I think I think all four of

998
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: them are fine. But if you're looking at it from

999
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: the Breeze, the Breeze Brady perspective, you know who they

1000
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: are and you're getting him. As he said, short deals,

1001
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: the Bridgewater deal, they could get out in two years,

1002
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: no problem. Uh. And it's significantly cheaper than Taniel. Taniel

1003
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: is probably the most expensive on a year per year

1004
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: ninety certainly the highest guaranteed dollars going to Ryan Taniel.

1005
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, he looked, he was great. He was incredibly efficient.

1006
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: That's tough to be. I feel much better I from

1007
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: Carolina with Teddy. I think that he fits what they

1008
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: what they've done from a personnel standpoint very well. Obviously,

1009
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: John Payton and say enough good things about him. The

1010
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: Saints love them, so I think he's gonna be fine. Tannehill,

1011
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: there's a lot riding on Ryan Tannihill will be under

1012
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: immense pressure, little little uh. The deal is a little

1013
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: osweiler ish. It's a lot of pressure. And it's not

1014
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: a situation where a J. A. J. Brown turned out

1015
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: to be really really good last year. Johnny Smith is

1016
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: a nice tight end, but it's still a team that

1017
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: doesn't have you know, those dynamic playmakers, and it's still

1018
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: a team that's gonna be centered around you know, making

1019
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: plays when they're there. But Derrick Henry for as long

1020
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: as they can keep, you know, running the football with him.

1021
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: So what I rather, if I was the Titans, I

1022
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: would feel just as good as I had Bridgewater and

1023
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: knowing that I had forty million into him instead of Night.

1024
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: I feel just good about my chances to go back

1025
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: to the the NFC Championship game. I questioned to not get

1026
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: answered the way I was hoping. I was really hoping

1027
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: that's all the NFL is about. Yeah they can escape, Yeah,

1028
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: I understand, all right, here's hoping this one spurs a

1029
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: little bit more. Which backup quarterback? Would you rather have

1030
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: Cam Newton? Because when he signs, he's going to be

1031
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: a backup somewhere, Marcus Mariota, Jamis Winston or Andy Dalton.

1032
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: It's a girl you're itching. First of all, the fact

1033
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: that Cam Newton's not gonna be starting quarterback in the

1034
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: NFL is here, if that actually comes to pass, is outrageous.

1035
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: It's absolutely who's Who's It's bonkers. If someone signs and

1036
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: you're telling me that he's immediately gonna No, no, I'm

1037
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: saying it's crazy. The fact that the Bears didn't get him,

1038
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it has something to do with what's

1039
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: going on and evaluating him from a health standpoint, but

1040
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: I would have waited for that. I don't think I

1041
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: needed to pull the trigger on Nick Foles. That's just me.

1042
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: I don't think you know. If I'm the Chargers and

1043
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: I'm really committed to sitting Justin Herbert this year, I'd

1044
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: much rather than Rod is a great guy, we had

1045
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 1: him here, I'd much rather have Cam Newton there because

1046
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: I think there's talent on offense and defense that's plus

1047
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: down there with the Chargers, and you need to draw

1048
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: your in l A. If I'm the Patriots, of course

1049
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: I want Cam Newton. If I'm the Jags, I want

1050
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. But I'm the Jags aren't trying to win

1051
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: per se, so I think that would mess with their plans.

1052
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: If I'm the Redskins, even rock Riverboat Ron, I'm thinking

1053
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 1: about it. But no, he's going to be a backup.

1054
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: He's going to be expensive. I wonder from how he

1055
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: would handle being a backup. So I think that it's

1056
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: easy for me on here. Uh and my number. My

1057
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: order might actually surprise you. I would say Jamis first,

1058
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: Mariot to second, because I think he'll be just a

1059
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: consummate pro backup. Uh, Cam third, and Dalton fourth. Dalton's fine,

1060
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Speaker 1: Don't's fine, but he's costing me seven million. Jamis at

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00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: one million dollars to go basically to quarterback university. Tremendous.

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00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: What a value. So I'm just gonna I'm gonna go

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00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: into this assuming that Cam is a healthy because like

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00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 1: you said, it doesn't make sense that he hasn't signed anywhere,

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00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna assume he's healthy. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: put him last, So then I'm ranking him the best,

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00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: who I think is best and who I think is worst.

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00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: Saw go Andy Dalton one, Jamis Winston to Mariota three.

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00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: Those are the chances that to help me win games.

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00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: I I was it was a little late for me

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00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 1: on Saturday is probably eight thirties, so I was getting

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00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: close to bedtime on Saturday when when that Andy Dalton

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00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: news dropped. I was stunned. I just I couldn't believe it.

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00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 1: And I did like make sure it wasn't a darn

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00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: schefter or someone else that was putting out the news.

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00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: And I mean, I just think, I think I'm just

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00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: alone here on Andy Dalton Island thinking that this guy's

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00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: like pretty good, and I would think he would be

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00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: just fine coming in and winning you some games. I'm

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00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: still stunned the Patriots hadn't had no interest in me too.

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00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: I think it's wild. That's gonna be one of the

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00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: great storylines of the season, that that Jared Stidham is.

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00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: They're they're locked in, They're they're ready to go. And

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00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: I talked to somebody who knows the mccordy is very

1085
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: very well, and they're like that this is what this

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00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: isn't a joke. This they really think Jared. They were

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00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: they knew Tom was leaving. They thought Jared Stidham was

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00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: the answer. They believe he's the answer, and and he's

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00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: going to get the chance to beat the answer. But

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Speaker 1: the Dalton one was interesting and what I meant more

1091
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: from and I guess I wasn't thinking about it, But

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00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: if I was the cow Boys, I probably would rather

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00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: have Mariota as my backup than Dalton because I just

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00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: think he's such a good a model guy. Not the

1095
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: Dalton isn't. I just think that if they signed Mariota,

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00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: you're not getting kind of the reaction that you got.

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00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: And that does the reaction matter? I don't know. I

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00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: don't know if it actually is going to impact anything

1099
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: with that, but that signing and the reaction that it generated,

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00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 1: it would have been different if it was Mariota. I think.

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00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: I just don't think that people have seen him and

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00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: he lost his job Tannehill and nobody's he's not as

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00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: threatening per se as Dalton. I don't wonder if if

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00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: is a team just gonna go out and sign Cam

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00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: as a back and say do you want that? I mean,

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00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: that's that's where it becomes. Of those four Cam is

1107
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: gonna draw the most headlines that you don't want. Not

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00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: that he's a bad guy, it's more like Cam's on

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00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: the bench, he'd probably be bearing this guy that's starting,

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00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: Like I think that's the that's the thing you'd have

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00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: to worry about. But if you, if you truly tune

1112
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: out the noise, then you get him in there. Because

1113
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: he's he's if he's healthy, he's a top twenty quarter. Yeah,

1114
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: all right, gentlemen, interrupting takes from both of you. There,

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00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: it'll be it will be interested to see how the

1116
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: Dalton situation plays out, because if you're Dallas, do you

1117
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: have to move off of the number that you're offering

1118
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott right now, knowing that Dalton is still there

1119
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: and Dalton has a couple of years left on that deal.

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00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: If you think Dak Prescott's your guy, you make him

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00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: the offer that says, I believe that you're my guy

1122
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: and who're going long term? And if you don't, then

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00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: you don't. But Dak Prescott, he can sit there and

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00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: get franchise and franchise and make all the money that

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00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousin's way. He's got no pressure on him whatsoever

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00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 1: in terms of taking a deal that he doesn't like. None,

1127
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: and if the salary cap goes up and up and up, none.

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00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: I think Dak Prescott's in a much better position than

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00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. And perhaps this was a sign that they

1130
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: that they know that and they wanted to have an

1131
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: insurance policy not to mention. And we talked about this

1132
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: little bit on Brown's Daily yesterday. But we don't know

1133
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: what's going on with coronavirus exth center. We don't know

1134
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: what's going So let's say, let's say Dak Prescott or

1135
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: your your team's quarterback does test positive. Are they quarantined

1136
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: for two weeks? I mean, this year it might be

1137
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: more important than ever to have a backup that you

1138
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about being able to step in there

1139
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: and play, because they might play for a reason different

1140
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: than they would have ever played in the past. In

1141
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: the NFL, Yeah, I think it's something that bears watching,

1142
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: especially when you look at who are backing up some

1143
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: of the franchise elite quarterbacks excuse me, in the National

1144
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: Football League. All right, at some point this week, we

1145
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: think the NFL schedule is going to come out. Obviously

1146
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: we're there are no international games. Those have been canceled

1147
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: by the league, so everybody's gonna stay stateside and there

1148
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: will be nothing internationally. In a quick prediction from both

1149
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: of you on how many prime time games the Cleveland

1150
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: Browns will have when the schedule comes out, Zagara cared

1151
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: to explain yourself. Three Thursday night, Monday night, and I

1152
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: think we will get one Sunday night game, whether it's

1153
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: Baker versus Burrow or US against the Ravens. I think

1154
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: we'll get three ultimately, but I don't think we'll get

1155
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,479
Speaker 1: more than that. We could get to but I still

1156
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,479
Speaker 1: think you Baker O'Dell Jarvis Miles, I think we'll get three.

1157
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: So would you count a Thanksgiving game as prime time? Yes,

1158
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: even if it's an afternoon game. Yeah, that's a national

1159
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: it's itself. Yeah Yeah, then I'll probably go with three

1160
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: in a traditional schedule setting. But I'm I'm I'm open

1161
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: minded to getting weird if the if the the way

1162
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: this schedule gets met moved around with all the loose ends,

1163
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: like let's get let's get football on TV every day

1164
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: of the week, like let's let's figure out like I mean,

1165
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: every let's let's be as open minded as we could

1166
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: probably be with what with what could happen? I mean,

1167
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: but in a traditional sense, I would say the Browns

1168
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: performance last year dropped him from a four prime time

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00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: time game team to three prime time game. Just those

1170
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: are the rules. So but you still got you still

1171
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: got stars on this team, and that's that's who they

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00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: want in these primetime games. Yeah, I would go Thursday

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00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: night and two Mondays. Nah, I don't. I don't tell.

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00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: I feel like that could be Steelers Cowboys. I've been

1175
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: married to that Brown's Cowboys Thanksgiving Day game for like

1176
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 1: a year and a half, and now I'm not so sure.

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00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like that could be Steelers

1178
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys and we get knocked from that, knocked from that route.

1179
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: Now that being said, the one Thursday night game, what

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00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: if that's Thanksgiving Night against say a Ravens team or

1181
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: a Steeler football team. You know, if you get the

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00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: Thursday night game, that opens if you get the Thanksgiving game,

1183
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: that opens up the possibility of multiple Thursday Night games.

1184
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: I think we're getting three. I think three is the

1185
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: right number for us. I think that's a good spot.

1186
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: Then if you're playing well at the end, maybe you

1187
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: get flexed. I My only disagreement I think three in

1188
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: a traditional schedule. I think it's one Thursday and two Mondays.

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00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: No Sunday for us. No Sunday. We have enough stars.

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01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: We have the star power for us Sunday. All right, gentlemen,

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