WEBVTT - Sugar and Spice with Vanessa Lengies

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>an iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to and That's what you really miss podcasts. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a very special audition at Blue Wires Studios at

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<v Speaker 2>WIN Las Vegas, with a very special guest, Vanessa Lenjie.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Oh my gosh. Wow. First of all, selfishly, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just go not even I love the win. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when this thing happened, people are like, you can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the wind, make it sound organic. No, this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually nobody loves the win more than Kevin. I love

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas. And then I'm like the biggest walking billboard

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<v Speaker 1>for Win Las Vegas. I'm always trying to find an

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<v Speaker 1>excuse to come here, and I swear this isn't like

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<v Speaker 1>spawn con. This is me truth. I showed up days

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<v Speaker 1>earlier than Vanessa and Jenna just to be here. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>you did, And as Vanessa Lenji's would say, we're winning,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we are. You are winning with why? Winning with why?

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<v Speaker 3>In Las Vegas specifically, I forgot how much I loved

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<v Speaker 3>Las Vegas. And Jen and I flew here and was

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<v Speaker 3>looking over there's that that that sphere and this beautiful win.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Vegas. Get me an alcoholic can of whipped

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<v Speaker 3>cream and stay at the wind.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll be winning. She walked into the casino, She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>just the smell of liquor.

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<v Speaker 4>And.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my This is our Las Vegas residency. See was

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<v Speaker 1>what when a Dallas a residency? Selene? They all have residencies.

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<v Speaker 1>This is ours. And when you think of interview with

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessla and Jason, you think in line after Adele and Selene,

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<v Speaker 1>you think of us. That's the natural progression.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, if you have no taste, Kevin, I did start

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<v Speaker 2>listening to the Selene Dion Christmas album as you had requested,

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<v Speaker 2>my Canadian queen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and was I wrong? No, you weren't wrong. You

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<v Speaker 1>can see that year round. No, you actually can. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The last time I was in Vegas was to see Celine.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it not the most spiritual experience ever?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I cried. I cried and my friend told me

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<v Speaker 1>to be less loud. What? Yeah, I was screaming a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean, be less loud? We don't talk anymore? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>cut them out? Uh No, it is amazing. I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just I just felt found myself screaming.

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<v Speaker 3>Same experience when I saw dolphins in the wild for

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<v Speaker 3>the first time, where I just started screaming at them.

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<v Speaker 1>The same experience with Celene. I do feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>is watching Celine because I saw Selene a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching her was like seeing a pot of dolphins. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>because there was something so miraculous about it, and like

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<v Speaker 1>you could hear her like smack her own chest. She

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<v Speaker 1>pointed at me and said, do you believe in love?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe. I said, yes, obviously, I don't believe anything.

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<v Speaker 1>She told me to jump off the cliff. I would

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<v Speaker 1>happily swan dive off that. Kevin saw Celine with me

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<v Speaker 1>for the very first time.

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<v Speaker 2>My first time, my first time seeing Selene was with

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin McHale and the lead up too was actually just

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<v Speaker 2>as good as the concert because I was like shaking,

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<v Speaker 2>you were actually shaking.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a picture of her like outside the theater

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<v Speaker 1>and she couldn't She was smiling, but she looked so nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>She's just like, I don't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 3>The same night I saw Selene, Darren Chris was at

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<v Speaker 3>in Vegas as well, and you had to choose between

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<v Speaker 3>the two.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he was like, come come meet me, out. Sorry, Darren.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm in bed. He was like, come,

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<v Speaker 3>you can come in your pajamas. So I literally went

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<v Speaker 3>to meet Darren Chris out in Vegas in my pajamas

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<v Speaker 3>and it was it was he had a VIP private

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Aoki.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know what that's called. Rave, Yeah, Raves,

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<v Speaker 1>did you show up to a club in your pajamas?

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<v Speaker 1>In my pajamas? I feel like that for you though. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's true, because if anybody can pull that off, you can.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just going to say, that is very Vanessa

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<v Speaker 1>Lenngi's to show. I wasn't sure what what you were

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<v Speaker 1>going to show up in today. I wasn't sure, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good thing. She brought outfits and one of

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<v Speaker 1>them has a window.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it's a brick house dress and I'll change into

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<v Speaker 3>it for another episode. Has a little peep window for

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<v Speaker 3>the atas.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of ceiling again, I swear I went to the

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<v Speaker 1>new show here last night, the Wind Las Vegas Awakening.

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<v Speaker 1>I had two friends with me, and when I tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>we were gasping. Were you I have never seen anything

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<v Speaker 1>like gasping. We were like there was a part of

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<v Speaker 1>it where they created water with light and then had

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<v Speaker 1>gigantic jellyfish dropping from the.

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<v Speaker 5>Ceiling real jellyfish. No, they were not real jellyfish. So

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know because it looked so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I didn't know. I had no idea what I

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<v Speaker 1>was myself, Oh you should It was we'll come back

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<v Speaker 1>next time for our It was very surreal because if

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<v Speaker 1>you blink then like the entire set change, like things

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<v Speaker 1>are coming down from the ceiling, things are coming up

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<v Speaker 1>from the floor. There were these like creatures with masks

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<v Speaker 1>that were like eight feet tall that would look at

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<v Speaker 1>you and it was terrifying, but also like don't look away.

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<v Speaker 1>It was I couldn't get over it. It's like what is this? Also,

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<v Speaker 1>how does somebody think of that? And also it ruined

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<v Speaker 1>any other like theater experience for me because now I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's possible, right, And then I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to see more Beyonce do this. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>what does Beyonce in the round look like? Dr that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, let's talk about Vanessa Enjis.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be here all day and I'm prepared

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<v Speaker 1>for it. I know this is a lot. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a hard episode to keep compact, but we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to It feels like we've been friends forever.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't feel like you join the show at season three.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like you've been there from the start because

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<v Speaker 2>you locked in so quickly with all of us, truly

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<v Speaker 2>just coming in very quickly doing your iconic rendition of hey,

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<v Speaker 2>big spender. To have to do that in front of

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<v Speaker 2>a very established show at the time, with friends, your peers,

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<v Speaker 2>your age, and to commit so deeply was actually the

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<v Speaker 2>most impressive thing I think I've ever seen. Telly tell

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<v Speaker 2>us about your your initials, well, well that get to

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<v Speaker 2>that too, but also tell us about like how you

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<v Speaker 2>got Glee and all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this is great, This is great. First I want

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<v Speaker 3>to say, Kevin, you look so sexy to me. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to try to keep it together. You should have

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<v Speaker 3>put us a little further apart to go how did

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<v Speaker 3>I How did I come to be young?

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<v Speaker 1>Glee?

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<v Speaker 3>So it was twenty ten I think I think that

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<v Speaker 3>feel ten or eleven contract and I got this audition.

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<v Speaker 3>It said it's just an episodic one episode. This character

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<v Speaker 3>sugar Mata, and she does she's a terrible tone deaf singer.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry to interrupt, Yes it was was it just a

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<v Speaker 1>guest start.

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<v Speaker 6>Was that's correct, that's correct, that's the power.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember Eric's I always say his name, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that's right, Stilts. Eric Stultz was in the audition room

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<v Speaker 3>with me in the casting room and gift.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a gift. I was like, Oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>so great.

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<v Speaker 3>They really treat actors with respect, the directors here.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>And and there was something that happened in the audition

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<v Speaker 3>where you gave me permission to be as awful as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just thought, Wow, what a what.

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<v Speaker 3>An opportunity, because you know, when you go to audition,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to you want to impress. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like counterintuitive to try to be as awful as possible

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<v Speaker 3>instead of the usual experience of trying to be as

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<v Speaker 3>impressive as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And I could feel it, like I just could.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel this, this sense of oh, I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be with these people like this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's working, but also kind of like what Jenna's saying,

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<v Speaker 3>it's weird that I came in season three because our

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<v Speaker 3>relationship feels like it started before that and will outlast this,

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<v Speaker 3>of course. And I could feel that already in the

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<v Speaker 3>audition room is what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow? Yeah, And then and then I were we nice

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<v Speaker 1>to you when you came in.

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<v Speaker 6>So so so I came in to do a practice

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<v Speaker 6>for Big Spender with Brad on piano, and and you

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<v Speaker 6>guys were filming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we were on the auditorium stage right, I remember that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I walked into the audio auditorium and to meet everyone,

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<v Speaker 3>and I met Kelly for the first time. Telly is

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<v Speaker 3>now my best friend. I still will never forget meeting

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<v Speaker 3>mister Aristotle. And then and then and everyone was on

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<v Speaker 3>stage and you guys were either recording or practicing. We

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<v Speaker 3>got the beat with the purple pianos, and I walked

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<v Speaker 3>down and I watched and I felt just this awe.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt this awe of the energy. And then and

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<v Speaker 3>then you cut. And then I think it might have

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<v Speaker 3>even been telling you. It's like, everyone, come meet Vanessa.

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<v Speaker 3>She's gonna play sugar Mata. And I remember I was like, who,

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<v Speaker 3>who the fuck is this? And might have used the

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<v Speaker 3>F word, but that was the energy, was who the

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<v Speaker 3>f is this? And then and Kevin, you were very excited,

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<v Speaker 3>because Kevin would be very exciting, He was very nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I was an actual Vanessa Lnji's fan because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you've anyone seen American Dreams, because that was

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<v Speaker 1>the best show and I was obsessed with it. I

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<v Speaker 1>did not miss an episode and Vanessa was on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I played Roxane but Jorski, the trouble making best friends

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely hussy.

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<v Speaker 1>And was so good and believable as the Hussy. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I pulled from the deep for that. She just showed

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<v Speaker 1>up as herself. She's like and I didn't know, like

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know usually who's getting these roles, and then

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<v Speaker 1>when Kelly brought her in, I was like, I know

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely who this girl is. I have seen her. I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up watching her. And also one of my first

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<v Speaker 1>like young Hollywood quote unquote events in La was at

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<v Speaker 1>I might have been like the Sportsman's Lodge, like years

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<v Speaker 1>before Glee, like I was on a boy band and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a gifting suite, I think for something,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had never been to one of those before.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was like a little step in repeat and

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<v Speaker 1>I looked over and Vanessa Lenji's was there, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was so star struck I had like I left, I

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<v Speaker 1>walked past. I couldn't even look at her or going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to her because I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing a celebrity and I have to leave. And

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<v Speaker 1>then she shows up on the show that I'm on.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? I didn't know that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>knew how good she was. So that's why when there

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<v Speaker 1>was some coldness from other members of the cast, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, you just wait, because this is an

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<v Speaker 1>actual actor. She belongs here. Well the rest of us

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<v Speaker 1>can go yes, like she's legitimate. The rest of us

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<v Speaker 1>are faking it, wow, because I was like, she's been

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<v Speaker 1>doing this longer on TV than all of us have combined. Right, wow.

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<v Speaker 3>First, did they give away Hello Kitty toasters at that

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<v Speaker 3>gifting suite?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>I had never been to a gifting suite either, and

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<v Speaker 3>I remember being like, how much is this toaster? And

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, you just can take it? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I can take this toaster. It puts Hello Kitty's face

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<v Speaker 3>on toast. You're just going to give this to me?

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, yeah, that's that's the point.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, thousand dollars. This is great. Wow, Kevin, I

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<v Speaker 1>love you and that's very sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel I feel just uh honored. And then and

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<v Speaker 3>then yeah, people were so so So I walked into

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<v Speaker 3>that rehearsal or or film and they were weird. I

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<v Speaker 3>were really weird from coming. I'm a sensitive cancer, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>and I could tell that something was up and and

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I had respect for it too. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, you know, everyone has been working together for

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<v Speaker 3>the last you know, two years.

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<v Speaker 1>They haven't had any time off.

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<v Speaker 3>They've gone from filming a season going on tour, filming

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<v Speaker 3>a season going on tour. This is a tight knit group.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think maybe I've had enough experience to know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that there is a whole ecosystem here that

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<v Speaker 3>I do not yet know about. So I think in

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<v Speaker 3>my mind, I was just feeling like I can just

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<v Speaker 3>be as open as possible and be as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of malleable as possible, and just remember, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to show up with love and all the crevices where

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<v Speaker 3>love is needed. And I had known Corey's previously, so

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<v Speaker 3>Corey and I were friends, so that was also. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, Corey was like Vanessa and that moment, so

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<v Speaker 3>you and Corey made me feel very very welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then you know, and women, it's different.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think everyone was going through something and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>and also you were probably fairly being like can.

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<v Speaker 1>You can you roll with this? Because this is intense.

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<v Speaker 3>What we're doing is intense, So you know, what do

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<v Speaker 3>you what are you going to bring? Are you going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a foe? Are you going to be a friend?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you going to be competition? You know, I could,

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like that's a very you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>you're meeting new women, that's kind of through it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's unfortunate in Hollywood that it feels like that, but

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<v Speaker 2>it often feels like that. And in hindsight, like I

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<v Speaker 2>wish we had made more space, but we were also

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<v Speaker 2>personally all going through as you said, that's so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I was ready for it. I mean I was. I

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<v Speaker 1>was there just Vanessa and you like roll.

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<v Speaker 2>With it, and we always watched and when we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the in the podcast when you came on the

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<v Speaker 2>last season, we talk about you because even with like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Heart is like.

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<v Speaker 1>Your first real big episode other than Big Spender. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of characters, there's a lot of story for

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of people, and you always made such

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<v Speaker 1>a mountain over a mole hill, like in the best

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<v Speaker 1>way possible, and like just committed to the one line

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<v Speaker 1>you had in the episode and made it something. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why they always cut to you. That's why, like you

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<v Speaker 1>always made us laugh because it was so genuine and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, in hindsight, like so appreciated that

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't somebody who came in that was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my house now, bitch, Like you came in very respectful.

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<v Speaker 2>You had enough experience. You've been on a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>shows before, You've done a lot of stuff. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I remember though, when you started. I think when Corey

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<v Speaker 2>like set the tone for us. You're like, He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>she's cool. You have somebody you trust, it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>mutual friend. You startarted telling us about your audition for make.

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<v Speaker 1>Stick It the Legendary and Vanessa, I think so much

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<v Speaker 1>because that tale right now. Okay, so in my Sticket audition,

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<v Speaker 1>I commit to.

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<v Speaker 3>Things and I had just I had basically before the

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<v Speaker 3>audition gone to a local gym gymnastics studio and just

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<v Speaker 3>copied them. I just studied them and copied them. I

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<v Speaker 3>tried to get as strong as possible in two weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>which doesn't happen. But then I didn't get I bought

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<v Speaker 3>this gymnastics up top and bottom set like they have

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<v Speaker 3>one before they disrobe, you know, the and it goes

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<v Speaker 3>a zipper goes jumpsuit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Five to two and the jumpsuit was made for a

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<v Speaker 3>taller person, and I didn't have time to get it hemmed,

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<v Speaker 3>or even didn't think of getting it hemmed.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, I go to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like an agility test to this audition, which doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>really happen often, So.

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<v Speaker 1>My agility test.

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<v Speaker 3>They have cameras filming it, and I'm standing there poised,

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<v Speaker 3>like I watched the gymnasts do in the in the

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<v Speaker 3>in the gymnasium, and I, you know, I look to

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<v Speaker 3>the right, I look to the left, and all I

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<v Speaker 3>have to do is run across the matt, the performance matt.

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<v Speaker 1>What do they call that? A floor? A floor? That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>See, I know so much about gymnastics, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>just I just was focused, and I saw my endpoint

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<v Speaker 3>and I gave it my all, and halfway through the floor,

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<v Speaker 3>tripped over my long pants and face planted it like

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<v Speaker 3>like like face planted like rugburn on cheek and I

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<v Speaker 3>was just lying there. It almost blacked out because like

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<v Speaker 3>I opened my eyes and I'm just laying on the

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<v Speaker 3>floor and I feel like the whole room is just

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<v Speaker 3>holding their breath. And I just had this split second

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<v Speaker 3>like fucking pop sorries for you. Yeah, no, children, do it,

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<v Speaker 3>pop up and do the final stick at landing and

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<v Speaker 3>at your audience. And I just did it and people

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<v Speaker 3>burst out laughing. And then when I and then they

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<v Speaker 3>gave me the job, which great. And then I remember

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<v Speaker 3>Jessica bending Or, the director. We were there and filming

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<v Speaker 3>the scene. She's like, I'm bored of the scene, Vanessa.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you do the thing you did in your audition

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<v Speaker 3>where you fall over and then like pop back up

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<v Speaker 3>and make it seem real? And so in the movie

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<v Speaker 3>there's a scene where like do this little jig and

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<v Speaker 3>just face plant and then just like pop up and go.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was that was totally pulled from that audition.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I used humor. You know you guys, you

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<v Speaker 3>you were we you know, the start of us meeting

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<v Speaker 3>was rocky, but you welcome. You welcomed me in really fast.

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<v Speaker 3>And Kevin was like, I'll give you all the tea.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll let you know that's going on. Oh yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>were my you were my little canary in the coal

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<v Speaker 3>miners because my vibe I could feel everything. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't but the but what I was seeing was confused.

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<v Speaker 1>I also knew that I knew how difficult it must

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<v Speaker 1>be for a new person coming in because we had

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<v Speaker 1>been through that a couple of times. But I also knew,

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<v Speaker 1>like your resume, and I knew you weren't not you

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<v Speaker 1>were not new, but you may be new to us,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're more qualified than the rest of us to

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<v Speaker 1>be here. So I felt like I could trust you,

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<v Speaker 1>be like you're going to get these things because you've

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<v Speaker 1>been on You've been a regular on a show. That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And then and then Jenna and I didn't get

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<v Speaker 3>close until later.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even remember, but I do. Memory is too good.

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<v Speaker 3>No, actually I have well, I remember emotional things. So

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when we fell in love because.

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<v Speaker 1>It was later.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like Melissa Buele are wonderful makeup artists

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<v Speaker 2>who did both Vanessa and I kind of brought us

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<v Speaker 2>together as well, because we were both separately very close

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<v Speaker 2>with her and you're like this girl con vibe with

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<v Speaker 2>like anybody. And then like the three of us started

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<v Speaker 2>hanging out, and I just I trusted Buele, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and when I saw her getting close with you, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, there must be something to this girl.

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<v Speaker 2>And to be fair, like I had already been on,

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<v Speaker 2>I was unhinged at that point. My torso was aside

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<v Speaker 2>my from my legs, like I just was not not

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<v Speaker 2>on my body, so.

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<v Speaker 3>And can I just come to your defense? Just here,

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<v Speaker 3>and they stand up for my friend Jenna. What I

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<v Speaker 3>was hearing from my Seam and Kevin McHale at the

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<v Speaker 3>time was that people were fucking mean to you and

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<v Speaker 3>talking about you behind your back, putting you down. You

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<v Speaker 3>were having a sing and no one was showing up

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<v Speaker 3>with like is she okay? Does she need anything? Instead

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<v Speaker 3>they were like can you believe what she's up to

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<v Speaker 3>and how she can't keep her stuff together? And I

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<v Speaker 3>think my response was when she gets back, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>love her like she like, I'm just gonna be the

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<v Speaker 3>thing that I would want somebody to be for me

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<v Speaker 3>at that point. And so I remember kind of waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for you to come back and just being like I

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<v Speaker 3>can't wait to love this woman, and were so kind

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<v Speaker 3>to me, and you responded right like you like you

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<v Speaker 3>were nothing like people were you know, painting, painting and

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<v Speaker 3>very nice, and then you know we had just I

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<v Speaker 3>just remember so much love, falling in love, fall in love,

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<v Speaker 3>oh someone, mousies.

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<v Speaker 1>So many mousies. There's also the fact that like when

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get there. But when the new cast came in,

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<v Speaker 1>there was there was this like new life that breathed

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<v Speaker 1>into this and I was revived at that point. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I had.

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<v Speaker 2>Rid of some of the energy that was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if I can't act like those people and get what

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<v Speaker 2>they're getting, then I need to like find myself again.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it was like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Gift, like all these new people came in and we're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of looking to us for leadership, and I was like, oh, bitch,

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<v Speaker 2>I can do this and like set a new tone,

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<v Speaker 2>and so like we felt like even you were a

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<v Speaker 2>part of that.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to set a new.

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<v Speaker 2>Tone with our new cast members and we had like

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<v Speaker 2>a ball Yeah I think season three, Yeah it did, right, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember saying yes, And because I think it was very

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<v Speaker 1>indicative of Vanessa's portrayal of when she first came on

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<v Speaker 1>to set to meet us, because there were sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like factions being created and like divides happening for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time really and.

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<v Speaker 3>Some wild behavior. Yeah, and I think who can show

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<v Speaker 3>up latest to to set?

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<v Speaker 4>What did you.

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<v Speaker 1>Experience that on your other shows?

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<v Speaker 3>Not to like, I think Grady would be fine if I.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to her about this.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, when I did when I did American Grady,

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<v Speaker 3>when I did American Dreams and we had family dinner

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<v Speaker 3>scenes there, there were for sure games being played the

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<v Speaker 3>older casts of like I'll get there, like I'll wait

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<v Speaker 3>until somebody wait in there, and I want to be

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<v Speaker 3>the last person to set. But when I joined the

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<v Speaker 3>Glee cast, I for sure saw some pretty crazy behaviors happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's hard when you're in it. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>identify that those behaviors are crazy and not normal because

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<v Speaker 1>it's what you're used to, so you have nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>compare it to, because like, this is what we see

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<v Speaker 1>every day, and you make it work around that or

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<v Speaker 1>in spite of it, despite of it, because you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how we just have to balance these personalities.

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<v Speaker 3>With my experience, I could tell you that the Glee

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<v Speaker 3>schedule was not normal and what you guys were asked

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<v Speaker 3>to do was beyond anything I've seen before, and I like,

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<v Speaker 3>I loved the challenge of it. So I really I

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<v Speaker 3>felt like it was amazing, Like my creative being loved

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<v Speaker 3>having to go to dance rehearsal in the studio, then

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, rehearsal, then act and dance and sing

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<v Speaker 3>and like have these fifteen to seventeen hour days all

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<v Speaker 3>the way into Saturday mornings, and the pressure of also

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<v Speaker 3>then having your show be so famous and that whole demand.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved that, but it was in no way normal. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's also why that led to in the

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<v Speaker 1>popular that combined with the popularity of it m HM,

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<v Speaker 1>led to certain behaviors happened, helping mechanisms, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>were just like allowed to happen. Yeah, well that's what

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<v Speaker 1>that's what was. That was what was weird.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's why I just respected Jenna so much.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, why is she getting punished? Yeah, when

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm seeing over here is getting rewarded.

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<v Speaker 1>Feels good. Where somebody else say that, it's nice to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you started the infamous and this podcast is now

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<v Speaker 2>dedicated to the trouble Tones. I had a dream about

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<v Speaker 2>the trouble Tones last night, and I had a dream

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<v Speaker 2>the trouble Tones were real and I was joining the

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<v Speaker 2>trouble Tones and my dance teacher from high school was

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<v Speaker 2>the head of the trouble Tones. Nya was there, actually

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<v Speaker 2>she came. Yeah, she was there. It was She was

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<v Speaker 2>very vivid there. But I was in the silver dresses.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that one. Oh, I will survive, survivor, I will survive. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what a number. So I was in the trouble Tones

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 1>last night.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that I would resurrect the trouble Tones and tour.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Why didn't Trouble Tones make an appearance? I really happen

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 1>enough to tour. Yeah, if we had another tour it was.

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I would have loved to tour. I know everyone was

0:24:55.320 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>ready for never never seen even the more more unhinged

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 1>behavior from everybody. You like, every day was weird. It

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>was there was no oversight. We could do whateveryone wanted

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:22.760
<v Speaker 1>as good as you would have loved it, pregnant absolutely,

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:27.880
<v Speaker 1>even you, Kevin, we would have tried. Let's talk about

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Sugar's wardrobe for TEC because you are infamous for pattern

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>color risk taking, Yes, says Vanessa is known for that,

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 1>and so I trying to know whose idea? Who you know?

0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:47.440
<v Speaker 1>How Sugar's whole being came.

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 3>To be and how it evolved for you, uh pause

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 3>for effect. I think that Sugar as a as a character,

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 3>as a person, and you know, as a backstory is

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 3>ninety percent wardrobe.

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:12.159
<v Speaker 1>Think this what what came to be.

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.400
<v Speaker 3>And this is fun about characters that we play as actors,

0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 3>is you have an idea of who they are and

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 3>what they're about, and then as you be them, you know,

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 3>you're you're schooled in what this character actually wants to be.

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 3>And I love that about acting. And so with Sugar,

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 3>it was she became just her clothes like that. That

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 3>was ninety percent of this of who she was. And

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 3>I can and I can't I get it because she

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, she was a spoiled, rich kid who was

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.400
<v Speaker 3>told nothing but good things about her all the time,

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 3>so she could have that delusion that she actually knew

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 3>how to sing. And I imagine that she just watched

0:26:57.000 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, pop culture movies, television or or older you

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 3>know whatever. She was just a consumption or as far

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 3>as you know, television and film and music, and so

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 3>every so when she saw clothes and she would just

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 3>think of those things that she had seen in a

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.200
<v Speaker 3>movie or a TV show or an artist and then

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 3>became that, you know, and it was like the opposite

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 3>of cocoax Chanel, Like instead of taking something off before,

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 3>one item off before you leave the house, Sugars put

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 3>on five more because it's not done until you have

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, until it's not. And then because I didn't

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 3>have a lot of lines and a lot of storyline,

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 3>I just as an artist was having so much fun

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 3>with the clothes so that I could feel this sense

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 3>of fulfillment just by what I wore.

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I mean in the Heart.

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Episode, I was, I watched it last night and when

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 3>I jump on your chair and you wheeled me out,

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like the socks and the neck like this,

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 3>just the shoes, just like everything was delightful, like it was.

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:12.919
<v Speaker 3>It brought me pleasure, Each item of clothing brought me pleasure.

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 3>And then I would I would kind of be like

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.439
<v Speaker 3>what did she who? Just this is Sugar dressing as

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Britney Spears in you know, right, you know this music

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:25.879
<v Speaker 3>video or this is Sugar being Julie Andrews in the

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:27.639
<v Speaker 3>sound of music and this, you know, just would be

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 3>like Sugar being who Who's Sugar being?

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Right now that was one of my favorite things about

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>getting to work with you was the moment you came

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>into that choir room and there was still like some

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>weird and deserved tension. I knew how like serious. I

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>could tell after the first few takes, Like how serious

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>you were as an actor, Like how much thought you

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>had already put into this character that is only going

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>to be here on paper for one episode. And you

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>have like been a regular on other TV shows, like

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>you've been in movies, like you've done things, and to

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 1>come in and like be a guest star can be

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>like a hard thing. And how much thought and care

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>went into that one character for that one episode. I

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:19.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, the rest of us, to a certain

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>extent may not be thinking as deeply about our characters,

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>or by that point you're an autopilot. I think it

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 1>happens to a lot of TV shows where you become

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>caricatures of the original character.

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you guys, also, coming to the defense of

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 3>my friends, you were also your personal lives were mind

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 3>for your characters totally, and I don't think you had

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 3>a chance to opt in or say like I'm okay with.

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>This, and for me, you're totally right. I wouldn't. Well,

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>first of all, this is just where I was as

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 1>a human.

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I would never let anybody in to be able to

0:29:56.120 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 3>mine my inner world for you know, extort my a world.

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>At the time.

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 3>Now I'm like, my whole game is trying to be

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 3>more vulnerable and more honest. But at the time, I

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 3>was like, no, I play a character.

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>That's how I live, right. But but y'all, I felt

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like I didn't have that separation of self and character.

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So I just I want to just you're right to

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>come to my friend. And I also think that was

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the starting point of this weird thing that was also happening,

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 1>not to like I don't want to like be gossipy

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and like talk shit. I thought that's what weird. I thought,

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what this podcast. But but there was like this,

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>you have missed the memo. No, no, you're right, Okay, yeah,

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>season three, this is what happened. Hey, season three, I'm

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>just a season three bitch, because like we were asked

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>to do like crazy, weird, big things like hey, big

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Spender was like a big you have to come in

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>there and like let loose basically, And there were lots

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 1>of times during the season and beyond where we had

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>to do really big, wacky things. Yes, and if the

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>other person is judging you and you can tell they're

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>judging you, it is the worst thing because the only

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 1>way you can make that work is like we're in

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>this together totally absolutely, And Vanessa coming in and doing

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Big Spender, I was like, I don't trust. I remember

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>having this thought that everybody in this room is going

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>to be on board or get what she is doing

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>because they're uncomfortable or like they don't care, or like

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they're thinking. And it was like

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Vanessa's an actual actor, a serious actor, and is coming

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>in here to do a job that she's paid to

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>do and cares about. And it was a real wide awakening,

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>like kicking the ass for me, like I need to

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 1>step up my shit even if I don't have a

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>bunch of lines in this episode, because that's what Vanessa's doing.

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>And it was nice to be like reminded of like

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:57.239
<v Speaker 1>what our jobs were because we could get caught up

0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>in the schedule and like the fame of it all

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and that he said, she's the stuff that was happening

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes, and so having you there was a

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>very excellent lesson and just like the originally what we

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>were hired to do, Like, hey, guys, focus, focus up.

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Here's someone like putting one hundred percent into everything they're doing.

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Anytime the camera cuts to Vanessa, she is fully even

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 1>if she's just like staring at someone talking or singing,

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>she's sugaring. There was never not a moment where she

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>is not Sugar. Like we were like, there's Jenna, there's Kevin,

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>there's Amber, there's Naya Sugar. Vanessa was like, that's a

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>testament to your ability. It's like you were a professional.

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I only broke during our love affair hardly you were

0:32:54.080 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>still you were still Sugar. I also love like because

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you can sing much better than Sugar can. Yeah, anyone

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>can sing much, Yes, I'll take the complimation. Yeah, like

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you can actually sing. And then American Dreams is also

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>musically based, and you came on which there were not

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of musical shows that people could pull from

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 1>to be like I was on this or at any experience.

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Did you feel like having that in your repertoire in

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>your past somehow like did you think that was going

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>to help inform you of how you integrated into the show. Obviously,

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>it was very different.

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I think I just got really excited

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 3>that I was asked to come back for another episode,

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 3>and then another episode, and then oh, Sugar, Mota's dad

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 3>created the Troubletones, and that is a whole thing. I

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 3>was just I just kept being excited that I was

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 3>welcomed back, and I, uh, it was episode by episode

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 3>that you get well, episode by episode, I didn't you

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 3>just wait.

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>For her the first one? Did you know you're going

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 1>back by the second one? Oh gosh, I don't know.

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. I also think it's like we were

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 1>all up.

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 3>I didn't answer your question because the answer is no.

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 3>It was just like, now you're going to a dance rehearsal.

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh wait, I'm dance. Oh now I'm dancing. Oh now

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 3>you're going to the studio to record the Chicago what's

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 3>the Chicago one we did?

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Sugar has a.

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Whole I don't even think they used it on the show.

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 3>But if you if you download cell Block Tango down Beaudiful,

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm thirty eight years old. The full version you stream

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.439
<v Speaker 3>it on Spotify, I don't know whatever. If you see

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 3>the full version of Cello, I actually have.

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>A part in it.

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Somewhere along the line, Sugar was singing and dancing and uh,

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 3>and I never thought, oh I can because I'm.

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Qualified to do this.

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 3>I just thought, oh, I get to they're inviting me

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 3>in to do this now, Oh cool. It was always exciting.

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:02.479
<v Speaker 1>I also feel like because very quickly we all became

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with you, Like it was a very quick turnaround

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 1>from like any sort of resistance too stretch to let

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>this load, like we can't let her go. And I

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like every department felt that, which is also probably

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>why you like immediately like keep writing her in like

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>we need her, because like the energy was so good.

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>And also I imagine for the writers too, to get

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody who's as good as you with comedy and like

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 1>physical comedy, where we had a lot of people who

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>were really good at that, but like you were another

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>like powerhouse powerhouse coming in. I imagine from a writer's perspective,

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>that was very fun to write for, knowing that like, oh,

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to write this, and I know Vanessa's just

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>going to make this even better, so take that.

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm taking it, letting it in, and it's like uncomfortable

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:51.879
<v Speaker 3>but also feels good and gooey.

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I know it should feel good and gooey, which is

0:35:56.000 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>what's wild to watch. Vanessa is the biggest ray of

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>sunshine and like ball of love. And it's wild that

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it can be uncomfortable for somebody like that to receive

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 1>all these compliments because you deserve it all. There's not enough.

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know enough words to say all the good

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 1>things about you. Let's just talk about some bad things

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>about me for a second. So I don't know, do

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 1>you come on, No, there's no bad things. I don't know,

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 1>there's no bad things. Let's not sit here long enough

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>to figure it out.

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious, like, do you have like distinctive memories of

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>being on set? Because you were with us for so long,

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 2>for us, a lot of it melds into one. It

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 2>all kind of is a blur.

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Each day was kind of the same in some you

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:46.360
<v Speaker 1>know respect, But like, do you have core memories of

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 1>being on set things that you did I have.

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 3>I have a really good memory of Corey and I

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 3>and it was like we were in the in the

0:36:57.239 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 3>holding room and there were sets everywhere, and almost everyone

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 3>was napping in.

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>A different in a different position.

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 3>There were people lying on the floor, there are people

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 3>who had chairs set up in a row of three

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 3>and were sleeping on that, and it was everyone was

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:15.240
<v Speaker 3>sleeping and Corey was sitting. Corey was the only one awake,

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 3>and I was sitting next to him, and like I said,

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, we had been friends from before, but it

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 3>was very trippy. He was looking at everyone with this

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 3>kind of loving papa vibe. And I remember we had

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 3>this talk about his experience that's that that you know,

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.399
<v Speaker 3>to that point on Glee, and he was talking about

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 3>each of you as you slept with so much love

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 3>and and it was it just was a cosmic conversation.

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how else to describe it, where I

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 3>really just saw his holding of.

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Everyone and silently.

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, he wasn't he wasn't a man of many words,

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.840
<v Speaker 3>But that conversation really stands out to me. So that

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 3>one stands out. That was kind of a heavy one.

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:08.799
<v Speaker 3>But I also remember I remember these shorts I wore

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:11.720
<v Speaker 3>in a dance rehearsal. There were like these cotton shorts

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 3>that made my butt jinggle and everyone said something about it,

0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 3>and I just remember that moment being like, oh man,

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 3>you're just so hot. This is a sexy group're so hot,

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 3>thank you, And I just I don't think I saw

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:28.360
<v Speaker 3>myself as hot at the time. My personal life was

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 3>not hot at the time. And I'm and and so

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 3>I think like, just like my own the way I

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 3>saw myself and the way you guys reflected who you

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 3>saw in me was there was a gap there. But

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 3>so those moments really stand out for me when I

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 3>got that kind of reflection, So that that that stands

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:49.400
<v Speaker 3>out for me.

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think of we were all just like

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>we said that everyone was attracted a grant, everyone was

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:55.720
<v Speaker 1>also attracted.

0:38:56.520 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh thanks as I was to you. I remember breaking

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 3>up with that person that I was with while I

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:06.240
<v Speaker 3>was on Glee and thinking, I have so many regrets

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 3>that I didn't I didn't hook up with people on

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 3>the cast because I wanted to be a good girlfriend

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 3>to this this person.

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 1>That was a mistake. That was a mistake.

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Venosa, do you remember when we did tell him in

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 2>the blue Dresses? No, it wasn't tell him. It was

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 2>maybe the same so when we did, we did look

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 2>at me, I'm Sandra d And we went, all of us.

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 2>We were having such a fun time on set. We

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 2>all went to Chipotle together on Vine Street and picked

0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 2>up a party box of Chipotle.

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 1>We got like a cater You and I were like,

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 1>let's get the catering box. And we went and we

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 1>got a catering Chipotle. Picked it up in our pajamas.

0:39:57.600 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>We were all in like our pana hats and like

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.800
<v Speaker 1>flannels and this is always in pajamas. That's right. That

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:04.839
<v Speaker 1>was our card dream. But we're having such a fun

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.800
<v Speaker 1>on set, are going to Chipoli.

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 3>That's when I found out that Jenna love Chipotle as

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 3>much as I did, and that Chipotle had given her.

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 1>In my memory, it's a lifetime. I wish it was

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a time friends. All of our friends remember those cards

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:25.720
<v Speaker 1>as a lifetime year of free Chipotle is a daily

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 1>breed on you to use it though, Oh you had one,

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and I would get it for all my friends. She'd

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 1>get it for all her friends.

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 2>I would also, and they would let me use it, like,

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 2>welcome Chipotle. If you're listening, I'd like.

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>That card back. Yeah, and we won't abuse it, we promise.

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about it. I had to start switching

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>uplications because they're catching me like, oh, I'm sorry, this

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.320
<v Speaker 1>is for I'm like, oh, I had no idea. I

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>lived down the block from Chipotle, that was the issue.

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 2>Would like, on the way home from set, I would

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 2>just veer off, grab it, and then go home. I

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 2>would go home for lunch and pick up Chipotle and

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 2>then go eat it in my loft and then drive

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 2>back to work. But anyway, my most vivid memories of

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:06.839
<v Speaker 2>Chipotle there though, were when Kevin and Vanessa we would

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 2>all partake in it together, because I think the three

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:11.759
<v Speaker 2>of us actually love Chipotle the most. I'm actually so

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 2>glad that we're here right now. We had a bond

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 2>totally trio Amba. Like I'm just remembering, You're like feeling

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:25.799
<v Speaker 2>that we had coming back. We were special, we did.

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 1>We are special. One of the most special trips I've

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:31.480
<v Speaker 1>ever taken in my entire life was with Vanessa.

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes giving gold, giving Gold, Mexico, Giving gold in Mexico.

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 3>We went to Cancun, and it was was this Was

0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 3>this the trip I always forget? Was this the trip

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 3>where Naya crashed into the family trip where Nya and

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 3>Brittany Parks were like spooning on this pair of sailing

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:59.919
<v Speaker 3>umbrella umbrella crashed into a family.

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 1>They landed into a family, family dinner on the beach.

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:06.320
<v Speaker 3>So this was not that trick, and it wasn't the

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 3>trip where we did and everyone realized that I was

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 3>a connive.

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>That was the same trip as the Mafia trip. Was

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.919
<v Speaker 1>the same trip as the parasale into the family, Okay,

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:18.439
<v Speaker 1>two different trips. That was also incredible because we also

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>we all played Mafia as a cast regularly and we

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 1>took it very seriously. Yes, Naya like, in addition to

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 1>having sticks with parties every Christmas, she would also invite

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of us on trips every summer. And so

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>we went Tusay one to Naho and the first night

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 1>we had this huge dinner with how many were there,

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 1>like fifteen of us or something A lot that many

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 1>people went. Was that the tequila tasting right? No, that

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:47.840
<v Speaker 1>was that was a different trip. Most of my memories

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 1>are about Mexico with teven. It takes about ninety percent

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>of your brain. We played the craziest game of Mafia

0:42:56.120 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 1>and started several fights between couples and we were to

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 1>them on because we like people were swearing on their

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:06.919
<v Speaker 1>own children to their partners, and we were all like, yes,

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:11.359
<v Speaker 1>get into it. And then afterwards we were all like, oh,

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 1>that was a great game. My good job, Vanessa like

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>murdered everyone. It was fine, And then couples had to

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 1>like go away and to reconcile and then come back

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:21.320
<v Speaker 1>and join the festivities.

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 3>I think somebody a couple didn't talk for a whole day,

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 3>and I need to know who these people were.

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you. But okay, so giving gold because Vanessa,

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting to hear you say also that you weren't.

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe when we were at work, you were in the

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:42.320
<v Speaker 1>space to be like completely open with your life personally,

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 1>but outside of work it felt like the complete opposite.

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.840
<v Speaker 1>You were very, very open and free with us, and

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>we were with you in return. And so we went

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.360
<v Speaker 1>to this. We went to kan Kun at this like

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>all inclusive resort, and like amongst other things we were

0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>giving away. We didn't realize it was all inclusive until

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 1>like halfway through the truth and we started because we

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.160
<v Speaker 1>had to like pose for fake paparazzi pictures and we

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 1>got the stay. Remember this is one of those things.

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I remember this, And we ended up meeting all these

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:11.360
<v Speaker 1>people that probably were not old enough to drink, and

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>we were playing volleyball with them, and like their parents

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:15.880
<v Speaker 1>are watching, We're like can we get shots for everyone?

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 1>You were giving gold and no, and so then towards

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the end of it, we had had so much tequila

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 1>over like the four days we were there, we were shattered,

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>just broken versions of ourselves. And we had lunch or

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>brunch on the beach and like it was hot and

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:39.359
<v Speaker 1>we were all so hungover, like dying and emotionally fragile, yes,

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 1>because we hadn't really slept and we're only drinking tequila

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 1>for most of the days. And we decided to go

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 1>around the table and give gold and like pick to

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 1>each person and say what we love about yeah or Vanessa, yeah,

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>very Vanessa, Like pick a moment, yes you remember with

0:44:58.080 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 1>the person, and then tell you how you felt. Like

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 1>if you talk to any of us that were there,

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 1>none of us have forgotten it. And it was like

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 1>so deep, weirdly transcendent. We're like, we shouldn't it shouldn't

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 1>be that meaningful at this moment, it was everyone was bawling, sobbing.

0:45:16.360 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 3>We couldn't look at hold we were. We were, we

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:22.760
<v Speaker 3>were clenching each other, we were we were holding hands,

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 3>holding bodies, sobbing. Who was there? Kelly, Kevin justin Thorne,

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:33.919
<v Speaker 3>Alex the butcher Marcus. It was also like a weird

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 3>random group.

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what group? Is this the only You're the

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:42.960
<v Speaker 1>only China? Yeah wow Yeah. And it was fascinating and

0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 1>it was like this weird like everyone just came like

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 1>it was a mixture of like several different groups and

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:51.800
<v Speaker 1>everyone was just so open. And I will say Vanessa

0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:55.799
<v Speaker 1>and Telly, I think inspire that when you're around them

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 1>for everyone to just be like accepting and open to

0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 1>whatever is going to come our way in most in

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 1>a very positive way. And so by the end of

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 1>that trip where we all felt like we're family with

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:11.400
<v Speaker 1>those I even told them at the airport we're a

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 1>new kind of family. When I tried to she was

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:17.919
<v Speaker 1>going through immigration and they said are you people family?

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:20.320
<v Speaker 3>She said, yes, that's my family, and they're like, you

0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 3>should we be together? And I was like, well, we're

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 3>We're a new kind of family, like.

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 4>The old ABC family slogan, like a new new kind

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:30.360
<v Speaker 4>of During that trip, we had what they called like

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 4>a butler a house A house. I don't know, and

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 4>I feel like we shouldn't.

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:38.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, if be good, I don't know what

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 1>the word was, but sway was with us like all day.

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm beside the point right now, but it

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 1>was just he's just looking at you like you are

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:51.480
<v Speaker 1>off the plot, off the out of the rails. The

0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 1>rails brought us to security and cried. Yes, that's how

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 1>crazy this trip was. What were you guys on? I

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:02.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know out nothing love. Yeah, yeah, I'm not talking

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 1>any friendship rumors, but you know what I mean. Speaks

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to the power of Vanessa's love. Oh that was the

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:14.480
<v Speaker 1>That was the point on it, because if you were

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 1>not there, that absolutely would not have happened.

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Fair.

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I usually like to end with people crying. That's

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>the killer. Dream wedding dream, dream wedding.

0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, wait, so before we and Jen feverally looking at

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 3>her papers trying to get us back on.

0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:34.920
<v Speaker 1>At least we have someone respond there's an adult in

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 1>the room. No, I have some questions. Well, some people

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 1>wrote in, lots of people wrote in questions.

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:44.759
<v Speaker 2>We asked people for questions for you, and I was

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 2>just browsing through all of these and I wanted to

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:51.239
<v Speaker 2>know this as well. So Aaron Charlotte asked, what did

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:54.200
<v Speaker 2>you think of Diana's impression of sugar and what was

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 2>it like playing Quinn?

0:47:57.880 --> 0:48:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I love that day. That was a great day. It

0:48:03.560 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 1>was really fun.

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 3>I think Diana is one of the most stunning people, yeah,

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 3>of all time. Just like to look at her. I'm

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 3>sure I've told her this a million times, just like

0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:20.800
<v Speaker 3>it's captivating. It's like your brain shuts off and you

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of just tilt your head and get lost in

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:24.959
<v Speaker 3>this like beauty.

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:25.400
<v Speaker 1>That she eminates.

0:48:26.520 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 3>And then I also think she's quite an interesting actress.

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:33.719
<v Speaker 3>Like I remember, like she's like constantly positive, even if

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:37.439
<v Speaker 3>she forgets the line halfway through, you know, so she'd

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 3>be like she'd be like talking or saying her line,

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:43.799
<v Speaker 3>and then there'd be this pause, and I remember thinking,

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 3>is she.

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Taking a dramatic pause? And then she'd just be like

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 1>what is it? With no guilt, no shame.

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 3>I would feel I would I would go home and

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:57.360
<v Speaker 3>just you know, beat myself on the back with something uncomfortable.

0:48:57.520 --> 0:49:00.279
<v Speaker 1>That's a weird thing to say, but whatever was like

0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:05.319
<v Speaker 1>delighted and so and so to switch with her. I've

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:08.919
<v Speaker 1>sent them off. I've sent Jenna. And that's the best

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:12.439
<v Speaker 1>way anybody's ever explained it, because it's true.

0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 3>So I think so I think the opportunity to get

0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:20.920
<v Speaker 3>to play her, for me was more to get to

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 3>play that because I had been just like observing her

0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 3>with this awe and reverence for the you know, for

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 3>however long I had been a part of the cast,

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 3>and so when I saw that I got to play her,

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 3>it was more really for me to play that part

0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:37.880
<v Speaker 3>that I just like this.

0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Really, I told you, I like it when people cry.

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>She has power. She's going to make you cry. You

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 1>will get there.

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I'll know you're feeling right now, Jenna,

0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 3>how do you feel there's a feeling of elation because

0:49:58.080 --> 0:49:59.840
<v Speaker 3>I think we're all in a room together, and so

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:01.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm feeling like buzzy.

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like I'm drunk, but I'm not. I'm drunk on love,

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 2>and I just this is a really great observation and

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 2>a way to explain something that I never fully could

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:19.839
<v Speaker 2>put words to. So it felt very rewarding in them.

0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:21.239
<v Speaker 3>That's it.

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Wow, there's a revelation. I hope that answers her question.

0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for a good question. What watching them play

0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 1>each other? You both have extroversive energy. You guys were

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:39.719
<v Speaker 1>my favorite, Like Dana was up and like dancing, Like yeah,

0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, who are these people? We really

0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 1>did see like people transformed in that episode. It was

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 1>really so fun and different. It was like we were

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:52.879
<v Speaker 1>honoring each other. You know, yes, exactly, except some people

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:57.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't take it well. But yeah, if you can't make

0:50:57.080 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 1>fun of yourself, I know, crash test comic wants to know,

0:51:09.040 --> 0:51:16.360
<v Speaker 1>did you prefer Sugar was Rory or Artie? Oh, crash Test, pardon,

0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:22.279
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about that. Okay, I want to say, because

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hurt his feelings. Is the problem

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:30.239
<v Speaker 1>is in the room. We won't tell him. No, okay, no,

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:31.839
<v Speaker 1>I won't tell him.

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:35.560
<v Speaker 3>I The thing I never got out of Glee was

0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 3>that we didn't have a relationship. Sugar and Lartie did

0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 3>not have a full relationship. That there was no makeout scenes.

0:51:44.920 --> 0:51:48.879
<v Speaker 3>I really would have loved to see that. There's still

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:52.719
<v Speaker 3>time when we apparently there's like reboot whatever, or just

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:54.839
<v Speaker 3>let's make our own show. Okay, we can just make

0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 3>or we can just make out after this, that's perfect.

0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:02.880
<v Speaker 3>What happens at the Win in Vegas gets on this podcast. No,

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 3>of course already I know whatever Rory got me a puppy,

0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:11.360
<v Speaker 3>But you know what I'm at the time, I was

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:16.360
<v Speaker 3>very allergic to dogs, so actually that was a terrible gift. No,

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:20.800
<v Speaker 3>I've i've, I could get into it, but I've convinced

0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:24.960
<v Speaker 3>myself I've i've, i've, i've got I'm not allergic to

0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:25.600
<v Speaker 3>dogs anymore.

0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:25.879
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:27.959
<v Speaker 3>I also had to be a dog trainer on Turner

0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 3>and who really figure it out? And those are not

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:32.960
<v Speaker 3>hyperlog which actually will just give you the rundown because

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:34.400
<v Speaker 3>it's so weird. And I think you're going to really

0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 3>love this about me. I read this thing that said

0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:40.319
<v Speaker 3>sometimes kids with childhood allergies make them up because their

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:42.239
<v Speaker 3>parents aren't giving them enough attention, and they have no

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:45.200
<v Speaker 3>other way to like call for attention other than to

0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:48.320
<v Speaker 3>have this reaction because they're competing with the animals, and

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:52.439
<v Speaker 3>that as an adult, we are allowed and we don't

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 3>realize or remember that we can ask for the attention

0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 3>that we need and that we can create a new

0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 3>sense of safety for ourselves and we don't have to

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:01.840
<v Speaker 3>be in competition with these animals.

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:04.080
<v Speaker 1>And I kid you not, I hope this is for you.

0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you have an allergy that you can get over.

0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I kid you not.

0:53:08.239 --> 0:53:10.319
<v Speaker 3>I just started telling myself, Vanessa, you're safe and if

0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:12.719
<v Speaker 3>you want attention, you can ask for it. And I

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.759
<v Speaker 3>am no longer allergic to dogs. And I'm telling you

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 3>I was full on, like sneezy nose hives the whole thing.

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:22.280
<v Speaker 3>So I mean, you know, wow, I am also Vanessa.

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a doctor.

0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Please do not like, get off your allergy medication and

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:28.040
<v Speaker 3>blame me for your hospital visit.

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not. But I just think that that's you know,

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 1>if anyone else said that, I would have been like, yeah,

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:38.120
<v Speaker 1>they're lying. Yeah, but I believe it. If you don't

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:42.040
<v Speaker 1>understand or believe in the power of Vanessa after this episode,

0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:45.920
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing. Nothing away from this I have. I

0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:51.120
<v Speaker 1>have one What was your biggest takeaway from Glee? Professionally

0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and personally? That's from Coco five to five. But then

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:58.759
<v Speaker 1>additionally Bella new Grace said, why did you disappear from

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:02.879
<v Speaker 1>the show's so great, so three parter?

0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:09.520
<v Speaker 3>Personally, I think our friendships, like, without a doubt, I

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:12.440
<v Speaker 3>can't believe how many hard times that we've gone through

0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:15.560
<v Speaker 3>together after the show, which also deepened our friendship. But

0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:17.880
<v Speaker 3>even if let's say we hadn't had those things happen,

0:54:18.200 --> 0:54:21.080
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like there was there is something about

0:54:21.280 --> 0:54:23.400
<v Speaker 3>being together for fifteen to seventeen hours a.

0:54:23.440 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Day for years. That makes you close with someone forever

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 1>and you still like each other. We like each other.

0:54:31.880 --> 0:54:35.480
<v Speaker 3>And also just yeah, just like come yeah, I just

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:37.920
<v Speaker 3>felt really, I think this is the vibe that I

0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:41.040
<v Speaker 3>told you I felt in the audition. There's some vibe.

0:54:41.040 --> 0:54:43.480
<v Speaker 3>I felt like, Oh, I've found a family. I'm going

0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:44.920
<v Speaker 3>to be in this family. This is what the family

0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:47.480
<v Speaker 3>feels like and it hasn't changed. So that was my

0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:51.440
<v Speaker 3>biggest personal takeaway. And also shout out to Tally Kusakis

0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:53.080
<v Speaker 3>Aristotle Causakis because.

0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:55.399
<v Speaker 1>He's my ride or die.

0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:59.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I met him through Glee and he's save

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:02.719
<v Speaker 3>my life not to sound dramatic, but definitely saved my

0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:06.959
<v Speaker 3>life emotionally and and and so I'm just like, wow,

0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:08.120
<v Speaker 3>I gotta tell you out of it.

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 1>So there's that.

0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 3>And then professionally, I think, you know, Instagram gives me anxiety,

0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:18.120
<v Speaker 3>but all of those followers that I have on Instagram,

0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:22.319
<v Speaker 3>which now in today's world is you know, not that many,

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:25.560
<v Speaker 3>but all of those people who give me so much

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 3>love on a regular basis came from Glee. So I

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:32.239
<v Speaker 3>think professionally that was just like a big shift in

0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:34.279
<v Speaker 3>my life. I love that for you, thank you.

0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:38.680
<v Speaker 1>And then the third question was probably the why did

0:55:38.680 --> 0:55:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Trigger disappear from Glee? That's right, do you know? Okay,

0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:48.600
<v Speaker 1>so this is my this is my yeah thought. I

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:53.480
<v Speaker 1>love this. I think that, Okay, this is this is

0:55:53.560 --> 0:55:54.000
<v Speaker 1>what I think.

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:58.200
<v Speaker 3>I think that when they were filming scenes, I wasn't

0:55:58.239 --> 0:56:00.719
<v Speaker 3>the best dnswer and I wasn't the best singer and

0:56:00.800 --> 0:56:02.680
<v Speaker 3>it was probably costing them a lot to try to

0:56:02.760 --> 0:56:03.799
<v Speaker 3>like make it work.

0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:07.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I that's what I took that to mean.

0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:10.440
<v Speaker 3>And then if I could take one hundred percent responsibility

0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:13.279
<v Speaker 3>for why, like you know, because that's what I do now,

0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 3>just try to take responsibility for everything.

0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I was really mad that they killed Corey's character. I

0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:27.319
<v Speaker 1>really wanted.

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Him to live on, Like I wanted it to just

0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:36.600
<v Speaker 3>be written that he went somewhere and just is living

0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 3>a great life and h m hmm. Inside I was like,

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:45.960
<v Speaker 3>that's fucked up. It's fucked up, like you know, in

0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:49.360
<v Speaker 3>my in my my opinion, which is not you know,

0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:51.960
<v Speaker 3>it's just me. I just and I think it's just

0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:54.439
<v Speaker 3>it's it's actually just that I had a really really

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:58.319
<v Speaker 3>deep desire for him to live on somewhere and then

0:56:58.400 --> 0:57:00.160
<v Speaker 3>they just took that away and I was like this,

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:03.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't I'm my heart is broken.

0:57:03.719 --> 0:57:04.520
<v Speaker 1>That was very so.

0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:06.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's if I'm taking responsibility for

0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 3>why there was a but it came back for the

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:11.320
<v Speaker 3>wedding episode, which was like the vest.

0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Day Ever did you ever did you voice that to

0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:19.520
<v Speaker 1>anyone or do you just feel like you emanated that?

0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:21.120
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like it emanated it.

0:57:22.120 --> 0:57:25.360
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I probably told Telly because he knows

0:57:25.400 --> 0:57:27.880
<v Speaker 3>every single thing for just to know about me. But no,

0:57:28.080 --> 0:57:30.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I made a stink about it. I

0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:33.880
<v Speaker 3>just like judged, just silently judged.

0:57:34.360 --> 0:57:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I did. I'm glad that when we had Ryan on

0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:38.560
<v Speaker 1>he talked about that. But tell me what he said.

0:57:39.800 --> 0:57:43.720
<v Speaker 1>He said, wouldn't do it again? Yeah, because there was

0:57:44.560 --> 0:57:47.760
<v Speaker 1>there was. I think there's no right way, no to

0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:49.680
<v Speaker 1>do it. Definitely not. It was a lose lose no

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:52.480
<v Speaker 1>matter what, absolutely and like none of us wanted to.

0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:55.120
<v Speaker 3>Do it the show there he said, Yeah, it's just

0:57:55.240 --> 0:57:56.920
<v Speaker 3>like one of those things where you might have this,

0:57:57.200 --> 0:58:00.360
<v Speaker 3>you might be like making this a part of the

0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:04.800
<v Speaker 3>show might be good for processing and digesting this really unfathomable,

0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:08.440
<v Speaker 3>un yeah, you know, I can't say the word we

0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:13.720
<v Speaker 3>did baffling experience, but I don't feel like that's actually

0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:17.200
<v Speaker 3>what happened. I felt like it it created more distance

0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:22.560
<v Speaker 3>between people to have to bring the grieving process to

0:58:24.600 --> 0:58:31.800
<v Speaker 3>the set and have it, you know, and and uh, yeah,

0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:33.440
<v Speaker 3>I have a lot of opinions about that. I think

0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:36.040
<v Speaker 3>that's probably why energetically I popped out.

0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that's I mean, that makes a lot of

0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:41.560
<v Speaker 1>sense because we were all feeling that way. Yeah, I

0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:44.520
<v Speaker 1>think you just voiced it because I didn't have a

0:58:44.640 --> 0:58:48.480
<v Speaker 1>solution either. I'm like, can we just ignore it? I

0:58:48.560 --> 0:58:52.760
<v Speaker 1>put like the greatest Moment's greatest hits together or something. Yeah,

0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:54.920
<v Speaker 1>like that's I mean, there's no right way to do it,

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 1>but I agree that there's could be wrong ways to

0:58:57.680 --> 0:58:57.880
<v Speaker 1>do it.

0:58:58.600 --> 0:59:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, and there there isn't a wrong way,

0:59:01.080 --> 0:59:03.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, because it was done that way. So I

0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:06.720
<v Speaker 3>guess like, looking back, like that's just and that that

0:59:06.880 --> 0:59:12.480
<v Speaker 3>really does represent how why Glee was so beloved because

0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:16.040
<v Speaker 3>they they they took those inside your insides and put

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:18.440
<v Speaker 3>them on the outside, and people were just drinking it up.

0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:19.720
<v Speaker 1>They're like, I just love this.

0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:23.120
<v Speaker 3>This is like look at these all these amazing, talented

0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 3>beings and I can I get to see the inside

0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:28.920
<v Speaker 3>of them, no matter how exploitive and you know, vulnerable.

0:59:29.000 --> 0:59:33.280
<v Speaker 3>That was for everyone on the cast, So you know,

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:35.680
<v Speaker 3>so that was good. And then I guess when I

0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:39.720
<v Speaker 3>think of the audience, I don't know, I don't know what.

0:59:40.040 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what. You guys have.

0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Feedback you've gotten from their experience of how they wanted.

0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, Glee is like that because people loved it

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:52.120
<v Speaker 3>so much, you kind of do want to take care

0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:55.960
<v Speaker 3>of them in a sense like I wouldn't. I wouldn't

0:59:56.440 --> 1:00:01.040
<v Speaker 3>give anybody advice to validate fans because that can be messy.

1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:04.560
<v Speaker 3>But there's there is something in me that wants everyone

1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:07.920
<v Speaker 3>who loved Glee to know that they're not alone and

1:00:08.040 --> 1:00:10.560
<v Speaker 3>that they're loved. And this grief is hard, and especially

1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:14.440
<v Speaker 3>all the grief that you know has piled on. But

1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:17.120
<v Speaker 3>what am I even trying to say? I'm just trying

1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:20.360
<v Speaker 3>to not make it wrong. But yeah, at the time, I.

1:00:20.480 --> 1:00:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Was like, yeah, yeah, it felt yeah, yeah it was yeah,

1:00:27.560 --> 1:00:30.320
<v Speaker 1>just really it was really easy to cry in a scene.

1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:35.720
<v Speaker 1>The opposite, I was angry. Yeah, I was just like,

1:00:35.800 --> 1:00:39.439
<v Speaker 1>you're not getting this from me. Oh God, that's hard,

1:00:39.520 --> 1:00:42.800
<v Speaker 1>because it was just hard not to.

1:00:44.280 --> 1:00:44.440
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1:00:45.240 --> 1:00:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I think, just like they they should have counselors and

1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:52.040
<v Speaker 1>therapists there, you know.

1:00:52.360 --> 1:00:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, Ryan had said also in the when he came

1:00:55.320 --> 1:00:58.280
<v Speaker 2>on the show, like we're mental health was not a

1:00:58.400 --> 1:01:00.760
<v Speaker 2>thing in the workplace when we were there, things would

1:01:00.800 --> 1:01:03.480
<v Speaker 2>be so different, and the way they handled my whole

1:01:03.560 --> 1:01:05.880
<v Speaker 2>thing would have been different, the way they handled Corey

1:01:05.920 --> 1:01:09.280
<v Speaker 2>would have a different they handled a lot would have

1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:12.280
<v Speaker 2>been different, and everybody would have had support and would

1:01:12.320 --> 1:01:15.280
<v Speaker 2>have felt like they had something that was offered that

1:01:15.800 --> 1:01:16.800
<v Speaker 2>felt normalized.

1:01:17.240 --> 1:01:17.440
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1:01:17.520 --> 1:01:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I think they had offered like if we needed a

1:01:20.120 --> 1:01:21.960
<v Speaker 2>grief counselor they could get one for us, but none

1:01:21.960 --> 1:01:23.760
<v Speaker 2>of us were doing that at the time, and none.

1:01:23.600 --> 1:01:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Of us felt like and it didn't feel Yeah, it was.

1:01:26.960 --> 1:01:32.560
<v Speaker 1>It was a very strange experience, but fortunately like learning

1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:36.680
<v Speaker 1>whilst going through it. Yeah, right, So no, you're allowed

1:01:36.680 --> 1:01:37.920
<v Speaker 1>to feel the way you feel. And a lot of

1:01:38.000 --> 1:01:40.200
<v Speaker 1>people felt that way. And I actually don't know how

1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:44.640
<v Speaker 1>many how people feel about that, particularly, I mean I

1:01:44.680 --> 1:01:47.960
<v Speaker 1>think people that I have spoken to me about it,

1:01:48.200 --> 1:01:49.800
<v Speaker 1>like the episode, I guess they wouldn't speak to me

1:01:49.840 --> 1:01:53.200
<v Speaker 1>if they didn't like the episode, right, But I've always

1:01:53.240 --> 1:01:55.880
<v Speaker 1>found that really interesting. I'm always shocked by it because

1:01:55.880 --> 1:01:58.080
<v Speaker 1>of how we all felt about it, like, oh, you

1:01:58.360 --> 1:01:58.600
<v Speaker 1>liked that.

1:01:58.880 --> 1:02:03.280
<v Speaker 2>But I think I can understand they were watching the

1:02:03.400 --> 1:02:05.560
<v Speaker 2>characters though they weren't watching us, and so we were

1:02:05.600 --> 1:02:09.080
<v Speaker 2>doing ourselves. We weren't doing our characters. Yeah, that's the difference. Yeah,

1:02:09.480 --> 1:02:13.160
<v Speaker 2>and that's really hard because they don't know. Yeah, they

1:02:13.200 --> 1:02:14.000
<v Speaker 2>can only understand.

1:02:14.240 --> 1:02:16.360
<v Speaker 3>That's why you have this show, because this is this

1:02:16.520 --> 1:02:19.200
<v Speaker 3>is this is the actual processing, by the way, what

1:02:19.360 --> 1:02:21.200
<v Speaker 3>you guys are doing, this is this is where you

1:02:21.280 --> 1:02:25.560
<v Speaker 3>get to go back and alchemize the experience because now

1:02:26.040 --> 1:02:28.120
<v Speaker 3>people do get to know and then there's not this

1:02:28.200 --> 1:02:33.240
<v Speaker 3>separation right between what was what was remembered as as

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<v Speaker 3>the truth and then there's like, no, there's there's more

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<v Speaker 3>to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's amazing. I think that's amazing. I

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<v Speaker 1>think what you're doing is amazing. On a lighter note

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<v Speaker 1>that when we're right in that, I am, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so grateful that you're here. And then, how does you

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<v Speaker 1>feel about pom Poms? We know how you feel about

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<v Speaker 1>sure Sugar was pompoms? Did your back hurt from carrying

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<v Speaker 1>the comedy of Glee throughout the series, I will go

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<v Speaker 1>on a date with you does a great line me

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<v Speaker 1>pb uh seven oh one? Thank you because that really

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<v Speaker 1>just took me. Yeah, I was like Vanessa, Yes, darling,

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<v Speaker 1>we are just so grateful that you are here with us.

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<v Speaker 1>You are such a light you have you have always

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<v Speaker 1>been a light to us, and then you continued to

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<v Speaker 1>shine so brightly for us. Every time. It seeps through

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<v Speaker 1>your pores and it is contagious and unavoidable. Damn you

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<v Speaker 1>did that, you did that. I have nothing else to add.

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<v Speaker 1>We love you. Vanessa is also like our new co

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<v Speaker 1>host for a couple episodes, a couple episodes, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is strap In and she's here for a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>So Vanessa, thank you so much. Thank you. See you

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<v Speaker 1>next week. Yes, and that's what you really bess by.

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