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Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to and That's what you really miss podcasts. This

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Speaker 2: is a very special audition at Blue Wires Studios at

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Speaker 2: WIN Las Vegas, with a very special guest, Vanessa Lenjie.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Oh my gosh. Wow. First of all, selfishly, let's

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Speaker 1: just go not even I love the win. And so

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Speaker 1: when this thing happened, people are like, you can talk

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Speaker 1: about the wind, make it sound organic. No, this is

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Speaker 1: actually nobody loves the win more than Kevin. I love

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas. And then I'm like the biggest walking billboard

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Speaker 1: for Win Las Vegas. I'm always trying to find an

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Speaker 1: excuse to come here, and I swear this isn't like

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Speaker 1: spawn con. This is me truth. I showed up days

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Speaker 1: earlier than Vanessa and Jenna just to be here. Yes

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Speaker 1: you did, And as Vanessa Lenji's would say, we're winning,

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Speaker 1: Yeah we are. You are winning with why? Winning with why?

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Speaker 3: In Las Vegas specifically, I forgot how much I loved

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas. And Jen and I flew here and was

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Speaker 3: looking over there's that that that sphere and this beautiful win.

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Speaker 3: I love Vegas. Get me an alcoholic can of whipped

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Speaker 3: cream and stay at the wind.

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Speaker 1: And we'll be winning. She walked into the casino, She's like,

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Speaker 1: just the smell of liquor.

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Speaker 4: And.

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Speaker 1: That's my This is our Las Vegas residency. See was

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Speaker 1: what when a Dallas a residency? Selene? They all have residencies.

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Speaker 1: This is ours. And when you think of interview with

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Speaker 1: Vanessla and Jason, you think in line after Adele and Selene,

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Speaker 1: you think of us. That's the natural progression.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, if you have no taste, Kevin, I did start

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Speaker 2: listening to the Selene Dion Christmas album as you had requested,

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Speaker 2: my Canadian queen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and was I wrong? No, you weren't wrong. You

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Speaker 1: can see that year round. No, you actually can. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The last time I was in Vegas was to see Celine.

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Speaker 3: Was it not the most spiritual experience ever?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I cried. I cried and my friend told me

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Speaker 1: to be less loud. What? Yeah, I was screaming a lot.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean, be less loud? We don't talk anymore? Okay,

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Speaker 1: cut them out? Uh No, it is amazing. I was.

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Speaker 1: I was just I just felt found myself screaming.

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Speaker 3: Same experience when I saw dolphins in the wild for

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Speaker 3: the first time, where I just started screaming at them.

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Speaker 1: The same experience with Celene. I do feel like it

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Speaker 1: is watching Celine because I saw Selene a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: Watching her was like seeing a pot of dolphins. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: because there was something so miraculous about it, and like

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Speaker 1: you could hear her like smack her own chest. She

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Speaker 1: pointed at me and said, do you believe in love?

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Speaker 1: I don't believe. I said, yes, obviously, I don't believe anything.

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Speaker 1: She told me to jump off the cliff. I would

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Speaker 1: happily swan dive off that. Kevin saw Celine with me

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Speaker 1: for the very first time.

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Speaker 2: My first time, my first time seeing Selene was with

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Speaker 2: Kevin McHale and the lead up too was actually just

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Speaker 2: as good as the concert because I was like shaking,

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Speaker 1: I have a picture of her like outside the theater

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Speaker 1: and she couldn't She was smiling, but she looked so nervous.

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Speaker 1: She's just like, I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 3: The same night I saw Selene, Darren Chris was at

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Speaker 1: No, he was like, come come meet me, out. Sorry, Darren.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm in bed. He was like, come,

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Speaker 3: you can come in your pajamas. So I literally went

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Speaker 3: and it was it was he had a VIP private

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what that's called. Rave, Yeah, Raves,

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Speaker 1: did you show up to a club in your pajamas?

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Speaker 1: In my pajamas? I feel like that for you though. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's true, because if anybody can pull that off, you can.

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Speaker 1: I was just going to say, that is very Vanessa

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Speaker 1: that's a good thing. She brought outfits and one of

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's a brick house dress and I'll change into

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Speaker 1: Speaking of ceiling again, I swear I went to the

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Speaker 1: new show here last night, the Wind Las Vegas Awakening.

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Speaker 1: I had two friends with me, and when I tell you,

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Speaker 5: I don't know because it looked so good.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't know. I had no idea what I

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Speaker 1: was myself, Oh you should It was we'll come back

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Speaker 1: next time for our It was very surreal because if

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Speaker 1: It was I couldn't get over it. It's like what is this? Also,

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Speaker 1: know it's possible, right, And then I was like, I

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Speaker 1: would like to see more Beyonce do this. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: what does Beyonce in the round look like? Dr that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's talk about Vanessa Enjis.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be here all day and I'm prepared

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Speaker 1: for it. I know this is a lot. This is

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Speaker 1: a hard episode to keep compact, but we're not going

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Speaker 1: to It feels like we've been friends forever.

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Speaker 2: It didn't feel like you join the show at season three.

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Speaker 2: It feels like you've been there from the start because

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Speaker 2: you locked in so quickly with all of us, truly

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Speaker 2: just coming in very quickly doing your iconic rendition of hey,

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Speaker 2: big spender. To have to do that in front of

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Speaker 2: a very established show at the time, with friends, your peers,

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Speaker 2: your age, and to commit so deeply was actually the

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Speaker 2: most impressive thing I think I've ever seen. Telly tell

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Speaker 2: us about your your initials, well, well that get to

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Speaker 2: that too, but also tell us about like how you

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Speaker 2: got Glee and all of that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this is great, This is great. First I want

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Speaker 3: to say, Kevin, you look so sexy to me. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to try to keep it together. You should have

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Speaker 3: put us a little further apart to go how did

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Speaker 3: I How did I come to be young?

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Speaker 1: Glee?

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Speaker 3: So it was twenty ten I think I think that

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Speaker 3: It said it's just an episodic one episode. This character

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Speaker 3: sugar Mata, and she does she's a terrible tone deaf singer.

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Speaker 1: Sorry to interrupt, Yes it was was it just a

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Speaker 6: Was that's correct, that's correct, that's the power.

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Speaker 3: And I remember Eric's I always say his name, Yes,

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Speaker 3: that's right, Stilts. Eric Stultz was in the audition room

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Speaker 3: with me in the casting room and gift.

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Speaker 1: It was a gift. I was like, Oh, this is

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Speaker 3: They really treat actors with respect, the directors here.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 3: And and there was something that happened in the audition

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Speaker 3: where you gave me permission to be as awful as possible.

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Speaker 1: And I just thought, Wow, what a what.

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Speaker 3: An opportunity, because you know, when you go to audition,

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Speaker 3: like counterintuitive to try to be as awful as possible

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Speaker 1: And I could feel it, like I just could.

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Speaker 3: Feel this, this sense of oh, I'm going to be

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Speaker 3: I'm going to be with these people like this. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it's working, but also kind of like what Jenna's saying,

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Speaker 3: it's weird that I came in season three because our

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Speaker 3: of course. And I could feel that already in the

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Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah, And then and then I were we nice

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Speaker 6: So so so I came in to do a practice

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Speaker 6: for Big Spender with Brad on piano, and and you

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Speaker 1: Yes, we were on the auditorium stage right, I remember that.

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Speaker 3: And I walked into the audio auditorium and to meet everyone,

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Speaker 3: and I met Kelly for the first time. Telly is

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Speaker 3: now my best friend. I still will never forget meeting

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Speaker 3: mister Aristotle. And then and then and everyone was on

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Speaker 3: She's gonna play sugar Mata. And I remember I was like, who,

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Speaker 1: I was an actual Vanessa Lnji's fan because I don't

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Speaker 3: I played Roxane but Jorski, the trouble making best friends

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Speaker 1: And was so good and believable as the Hussy. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: First, did they give away Hello Kitty toasters at that

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Speaker 3: I'll let you know that's going on. Oh yeah, you

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Speaker 3: the way into Saturday mornings, and the pressure of also

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00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 3: then having your show be so famous and that whole demand.

436
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: I loved that, but it was in no way normal. Yeah.

437
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: I think that's also why that led to in the

438
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: popular that combined with the popularity of it m HM,

439
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: led to certain behaviors happened, helping mechanisms, and then they

440
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: were just like allowed to happen. Yeah, well that's what

441
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: that's what was. That was what was weird.

442
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 3: And I think that's why I just respected Jenna so much.

443
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: I was like, why is she getting punished? Yeah, when

444
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,239
Speaker 3: what I'm seeing over here is getting rewarded.

445
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: Feels good. Where somebody else say that, it's nice to hear.

446
00:23:59,080 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: Thank you.

447
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:12,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you started the infamous and this podcast is now

448
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: dedicated to the trouble Tones. I had a dream about

449
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 2: the trouble Tones last night, and I had a dream

450
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 2: the trouble Tones were real and I was joining the

451
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: trouble Tones and my dance teacher from high school was

452
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 2: the head of the trouble Tones. Nya was there, actually

453
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 2: she came. Yeah, she was there. It was She was

454
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 2: very vivid there. But I was in the silver dresses.

455
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: Remember that one. Oh, I will survive, survivor, I will survive. Yeah,

456
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: what a number. So I was in the trouble Tones

457
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: last night.

458
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 3: I love that I would resurrect the trouble Tones and tour.

459
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

460
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: Why didn't Trouble Tones make an appearance? I really happen

461
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: enough to tour. Yeah, if we had another tour it was.

462
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: I would have loved to tour. I know everyone was

463
00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: ready for never never seen even the more more unhinged

464
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: behavior from everybody. You like, every day was weird. It

465
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: was there was no oversight. We could do whateveryone wanted

466
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: as good as you would have loved it, pregnant absolutely,

467
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,880
Speaker 1: even you, Kevin, we would have tried. Let's talk about

468
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: Sugar's wardrobe for TEC because you are infamous for pattern

469
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: color risk taking, Yes, says Vanessa is known for that,

470
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: and so I trying to know whose idea? Who you know?

471
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: How Sugar's whole being came.

472
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: To be and how it evolved for you, uh pause

473
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 3: for effect. I think that Sugar as a as a character,

474
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 3: as a person, and you know, as a backstory is

475
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: ninety percent wardrobe.

476
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: Think this what what came to be.

477
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 3: And this is fun about characters that we play as actors,

478
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 3: is you have an idea of who they are and

479
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 3: what they're about, and then as you be them, you know,

480
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 3: you're you're schooled in what this character actually wants to be.

481
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: And I love that about acting. And so with Sugar,

482
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: it was she became just her clothes like that. That

483
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: was ninety percent of this of who she was. And

484
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: I can and I can't I get it because she

485
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: you know, she was a spoiled, rich kid who was

486
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 3: told nothing but good things about her all the time,

487
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: so she could have that delusion that she actually knew

488
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: how to sing. And I imagine that she just watched

489
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: you know, pop culture movies, television or or older you

490
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: know whatever. She was just a consumption or as far

491
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 3: as you know, television and film and music, and so

492
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: every so when she saw clothes and she would just

493
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: think of those things that she had seen in a

494
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: movie or a TV show or an artist and then

495
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 3: became that, you know, and it was like the opposite

496
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: of cocoax Chanel, Like instead of taking something off before,

497
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: one item off before you leave the house, Sugars put

498
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 3: on five more because it's not done until you have

499
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: you know, until it's not. And then because I didn't

500
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: have a lot of lines and a lot of storyline,

501
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: I just as an artist was having so much fun

502
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: with the clothes so that I could feel this sense

503
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: of fulfillment just by what I wore.

504
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean in the Heart.

505
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: Episode, I was, I watched it last night and when

506
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 3: I jump on your chair and you wheeled me out,

507
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: I'm just like the socks and the neck like this,

508
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: just the shoes, just like everything was delightful, like it was.

509
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 3: It brought me pleasure, Each item of clothing brought me pleasure.

510
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: And then I would I would kind of be like

511
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 3: what did she who? Just this is Sugar dressing as

512
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: Britney Spears in you know, right, you know this music

513
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 3: video or this is Sugar being Julie Andrews in the

514
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 3: sound of music and this, you know, just would be

515
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 3: like Sugar being who Who's Sugar being?

516
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: Right now that was one of my favorite things about

517
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: getting to work with you was the moment you came

518
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: into that choir room and there was still like some

519
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: weird and deserved tension. I knew how like serious. I

520
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: could tell after the first few takes, Like how serious

521
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: you were as an actor, Like how much thought you

522
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: had already put into this character that is only going

523
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: to be here on paper for one episode. And you

524
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: have like been a regular on other TV shows, like

525
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: you've been in movies, like you've done things, and to

526
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: come in and like be a guest star can be

527
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: like a hard thing. And how much thought and care

528
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: went into that one character for that one episode. I

529
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, the rest of us, to a certain

530
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: extent may not be thinking as deeply about our characters,

531
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: or by that point you're an autopilot. I think it

532
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: happens to a lot of TV shows where you become

533
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: caricatures of the original character.

534
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you guys, also, coming to the defense of

535
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: my friends, you were also your personal lives were mind

536
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: for your characters totally, and I don't think you had

537
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: a chance to opt in or say like I'm okay with.

538
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: This, and for me, you're totally right. I wouldn't. Well,

539
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: first of all, this is just where I was as

540
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: a human.

541
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: I would never let anybody in to be able to

542
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: mine my inner world for you know, extort my a world.

543
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: At the time.

544
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: Now I'm like, my whole game is trying to be

545
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: more vulnerable and more honest. But at the time, I

546
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: was like, no, I play a character.

547
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: That's how I live, right. But but y'all, I felt

548
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: like I didn't have that separation of self and character.

549
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: So I just I want to just you're right to

550
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: come to my friend. And I also think that was

551
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: the starting point of this weird thing that was also happening,

552
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: not to like I don't want to like be gossipy

553
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: and like talk shit. I thought that's what weird. I thought,

554
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: that's what this podcast. But but there was like this,

555
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: you have missed the memo. No, no, you're right, Okay, yeah,

556
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: season three, this is what happened. Hey, season three, I'm

557
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: just a season three bitch, because like we were asked

558
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: to do like crazy, weird, big things like hey, big

559
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: Spender was like a big you have to come in

560
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: there and like let loose basically, And there were lots

561
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: of times during the season and beyond where we had

562
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: to do really big, wacky things. Yes, and if the

563
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: other person is judging you and you can tell they're

564
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: judging you, it is the worst thing because the only

565
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: way you can make that work is like we're in

566
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: this together totally absolutely, And Vanessa coming in and doing

567
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: Big Spender, I was like, I don't trust. I remember

568
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: having this thought that everybody in this room is going

569
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: to be on board or get what she is doing

570
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: because they're uncomfortable or like they don't care, or like

571
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're thinking. And it was like

572
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: Vanessa's an actual actor, a serious actor, and is coming

573
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: in here to do a job that she's paid to

574
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: do and cares about. And it was a real wide awakening,

575
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: like kicking the ass for me, like I need to

576
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: step up my shit even if I don't have a

577
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: bunch of lines in this episode, because that's what Vanessa's doing.

578
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: And it was nice to be like reminded of like

579
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,239
Speaker 1: what our jobs were because we could get caught up

580
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: in the schedule and like the fame of it all

581
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: and that he said, she's the stuff that was happening

582
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and so having you there was a

583
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: very excellent lesson and just like the originally what we

584
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: were hired to do, Like, hey, guys, focus, focus up.

585
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: Here's someone like putting one hundred percent into everything they're doing.

586
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: Anytime the camera cuts to Vanessa, she is fully even

587
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: if she's just like staring at someone talking or singing,

588
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: she's sugaring. There was never not a moment where she

589
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: is not Sugar. Like we were like, there's Jenna, there's Kevin,

590
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: there's Amber, there's Naya Sugar. Vanessa was like, that's a

591
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: testament to your ability. It's like you were a professional.

592
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: I only broke during our love affair hardly you were

593
00:32:54,080 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: still you were still Sugar. I also love like because

594
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: you can sing much better than Sugar can. Yeah, anyone

595
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: can sing much, Yes, I'll take the complimation. Yeah, like

596
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: you can actually sing. And then American Dreams is also

597
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: musically based, and you came on which there were not

598
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: a lot of musical shows that people could pull from

599
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: to be like I was on this or at any experience.

600
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: Did you feel like having that in your repertoire in

601
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: your past somehow like did you think that was going

602
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: to help inform you of how you integrated into the show. Obviously,

603
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: it was very different.

604
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think I just got really excited

605
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: that I was asked to come back for another episode,

606
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: and then another episode, and then oh, Sugar, Mota's dad

607
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 3: created the Troubletones, and that is a whole thing. I

608
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: was just I just kept being excited that I was

609
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: welcomed back, and I, uh, it was episode by episode

610
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 3: that you get well, episode by episode, I didn't you

611
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: just wait.

612
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: For her the first one? Did you know you're going

613
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: back by the second one? Oh gosh, I don't know.

614
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I also think it's like we were

615
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: all up.

616
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: I didn't answer your question because the answer is no.

617
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: It was just like, now you're going to a dance rehearsal.

618
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: Oh wait, I'm dance. Oh now I'm dancing. Oh now

619
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 3: you're going to the studio to record the Chicago what's

620
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: the Chicago one we did?

621
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: Sugar has a.

622
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: Whole I don't even think they used it on the show.

623
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: But if you if you download cell Block Tango down Beaudiful,

624
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 3: I'm thirty eight years old. The full version you stream

625
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 3: it on Spotify, I don't know whatever. If you see

626
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 3: the full version of Cello, I actually have.

627
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: A part in it.

628
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: Somewhere along the line, Sugar was singing and dancing and uh,

629
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 3: and I never thought, oh I can because I'm.

630
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: Qualified to do this.

631
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: I just thought, oh, I get to they're inviting me

632
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 3: in to do this now, Oh cool. It was always exciting.

633
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,479
Speaker 1: I also feel like because very quickly we all became

634
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: obsessed with you, Like it was a very quick turnaround

635
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: from like any sort of resistance too stretch to let

636
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: this load, like we can't let her go. And I

637
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: feel like every department felt that, which is also probably

638
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: why you like immediately like keep writing her in like

639
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: we need her, because like the energy was so good.

640
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: And also I imagine for the writers too, to get

641
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: somebody who's as good as you with comedy and like

642
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: physical comedy, where we had a lot of people who

643
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: were really good at that, but like you were another

644
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: like powerhouse powerhouse coming in. I imagine from a writer's perspective,

645
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: that was very fun to write for, knowing that like, oh,

646
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to write this, and I know Vanessa's just

647
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: going to make this even better, so take that.

648
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: I'm taking it, letting it in, and it's like uncomfortable

649
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 3: but also feels good and gooey.

650
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: I know it should feel good and gooey, which is

651
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: what's wild to watch. Vanessa is the biggest ray of

652
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: sunshine and like ball of love. And it's wild that

653
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: it can be uncomfortable for somebody like that to receive

654
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: all these compliments because you deserve it all. There's not enough.

655
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: I don't know enough words to say all the good

656
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: things about you. Let's just talk about some bad things

657
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: about me for a second. So I don't know, do

658
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: you come on, No, there's no bad things. I don't know,

659
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: there's no bad things. Let's not sit here long enough

660
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: to figure it out.

661
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: I'm curious, like, do you have like distinctive memories of

662
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: being on set? Because you were with us for so long,

663
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: for us, a lot of it melds into one. It

664
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: all kind of is a blur.

665
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: Each day was kind of the same in some you

666
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: know respect, But like, do you have core memories of

667
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: being on set things that you did I have.

668
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: I have a really good memory of Corey and I

669
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: and it was like we were in the in the

670
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: holding room and there were sets everywhere, and almost everyone

671
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 3: was napping in.

672
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: A different in a different position.

673
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 3: There were people lying on the floor, there are people

674
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 3: who had chairs set up in a row of three

675
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 3: and were sleeping on that, and it was everyone was

676
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 3: sleeping and Corey was sitting. Corey was the only one awake,

677
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: and I was sitting next to him, and like I said,

678
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: you know, we had been friends from before, but it

679
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: was very trippy. He was looking at everyone with this

680
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: kind of loving papa vibe. And I remember we had

681
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: this talk about his experience that's that that you know,

682
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 3: to that point on Glee, and he was talking about

683
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: each of you as you slept with so much love

684
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: and and it was it just was a cosmic conversation.

685
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: I don't know how else to describe it, where I

686
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: really just saw his holding of.

687
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: Everyone and silently.

688
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: You know, he wasn't he wasn't a man of many words,

689
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 3: But that conversation really stands out to me. So that

690
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: one stands out. That was kind of a heavy one.

691
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 3: But I also remember I remember these shorts I wore

692
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 3: in a dance rehearsal. There were like these cotton shorts

693
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: that made my butt jinggle and everyone said something about it,

694
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 3: and I just remember that moment being like, oh man,

695
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: you're just so hot. This is a sexy group're so hot,

696
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: thank you, And I just I don't think I saw

697
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: myself as hot at the time. My personal life was

698
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: not hot at the time. And I'm and and so

699
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: I think like, just like my own the way I

700
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 3: saw myself and the way you guys reflected who you

701
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: saw in me was there was a gap there. But

702
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 3: so those moments really stand out for me when I

703
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: got that kind of reflection, So that that that stands

704
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: out for me.

705
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of we were all just like

706
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: we said that everyone was attracted a grant, everyone was

707
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 1: also attracted.

708
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 3: Oh thanks as I was to you. I remember breaking

709
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: up with that person that I was with while I

710
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 3: was on Glee and thinking, I have so many regrets

711
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: that I didn't I didn't hook up with people on

712
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: the cast because I wanted to be a good girlfriend

713
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: to this this person.

714
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: That was a mistake. That was a mistake.

715
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: Venosa, do you remember when we did tell him in

716
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: the blue Dresses? No, it wasn't tell him. It was

717
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: maybe the same so when we did, we did look

718
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: at me, I'm Sandra d And we went, all of us.

719
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: We were having such a fun time on set. We

720
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: all went to Chipotle together on Vine Street and picked

721
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: up a party box of Chipotle.

722
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: We got like a cater You and I were like,

723
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: let's get the catering box. And we went and we

724
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: got a catering Chipotle. Picked it up in our pajamas.

725
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: We were all in like our pana hats and like

726
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: flannels and this is always in pajamas. That's right. That

727
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: was our card dream. But we're having such a fun

728
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: on set, are going to Chipoli.

729
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: That's when I found out that Jenna love Chipotle as

730
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 3: much as I did, and that Chipotle had given her.

731
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: In my memory, it's a lifetime. I wish it was

732
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: a time friends. All of our friends remember those cards

733
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 1: as a lifetime year of free Chipotle is a daily

734
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: breed on you to use it though, Oh you had one,

735
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: and I would get it for all my friends. She'd

736
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: get it for all her friends.

737
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: I would also, and they would let me use it, like,

738
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: welcome Chipotle. If you're listening, I'd like.

739
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: That card back. Yeah, and we won't abuse it, we promise.

740
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't know about it. I had to start switching

741
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: uplications because they're catching me like, oh, I'm sorry, this

742
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: is for I'm like, oh, I had no idea. I

743
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: lived down the block from Chipotle, that was the issue.

744
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: Would like, on the way home from set, I would

745
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: just veer off, grab it, and then go home. I

746
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: would go home for lunch and pick up Chipotle and

747
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: then go eat it in my loft and then drive

748
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: back to work. But anyway, my most vivid memories of

749
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: Chipotle there though, were when Kevin and Vanessa we would

750
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: all partake in it together, because I think the three

751
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: of us actually love Chipotle the most. I'm actually so

752
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: glad that we're here right now. We had a bond

753
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: totally trio Amba. Like I'm just remembering, You're like feeling

754
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: that we had coming back. We were special, we did.

755
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: We are special. One of the most special trips I've

756
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: ever taken in my entire life was with Vanessa.

757
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: Yes giving gold, giving Gold, Mexico, Giving gold in Mexico.

758
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: We went to Cancun, and it was was this Was

759
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: this the trip I always forget? Was this the trip

760
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 3: where Naya crashed into the family trip where Nya and

761
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: Brittany Parks were like spooning on this pair of sailing

762
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 3: umbrella umbrella crashed into a family.

763
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: They landed into a family, family dinner on the beach.

764
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 3: So this was not that trick, and it wasn't the

765
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: trip where we did and everyone realized that I was

766
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: a connive.

767
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: That was the same trip as the Mafia trip. Was

768
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 1: the same trip as the parasale into the family, Okay,

769
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 1: two different trips. That was also incredible because we also

770
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: we all played Mafia as a cast regularly and we

771
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: took it very seriously. Yes, Naya like, in addition to

772
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: having sticks with parties every Christmas, she would also invite

773
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: a lot of us on trips every summer. And so

774
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: we went Tusay one to Naho and the first night

775
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: we had this huge dinner with how many were there,

776
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: like fifteen of us or something A lot that many

777
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: people went. Was that the tequila tasting right? No, that

778
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: was that was a different trip. Most of my memories

779
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: are about Mexico with teven. It takes about ninety percent

780
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: of your brain. We played the craziest game of Mafia

781
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: and started several fights between couples and we were to

782
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: them on because we like people were swearing on their

783
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 1: own children to their partners, and we were all like, yes,

784
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: get into it. And then afterwards we were all like, oh,

785
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: that was a great game. My good job, Vanessa like

786
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: murdered everyone. It was fine, And then couples had to

787
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: like go away and to reconcile and then come back

788
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: and join the festivities.

789
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 3: I think somebody a couple didn't talk for a whole day,

790
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: and I need to know who these people were.

791
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. But okay, so giving gold because Vanessa,

792
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: it's interesting to hear you say also that you weren't.

793
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: Maybe when we were at work, you were in the

794
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: space to be like completely open with your life personally,

795
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: but outside of work it felt like the complete opposite.

796
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: You were very, very open and free with us, and

797
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: we were with you in return. And so we went

798
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: to this. We went to kan Kun at this like

799
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: all inclusive resort, and like amongst other things we were

800
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: giving away. We didn't realize it was all inclusive until

801
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: like halfway through the truth and we started because we

802
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: had to like pose for fake paparazzi pictures and we

803
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: got the stay. Remember this is one of those things.

804
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: I remember this, And we ended up meeting all these

805
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: people that probably were not old enough to drink, and

806
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: we were playing volleyball with them, and like their parents

807
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: are watching, We're like can we get shots for everyone?

808
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: You were giving gold and no, and so then towards

809
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: the end of it, we had had so much tequila

810
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: over like the four days we were there, we were shattered,

811
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: just broken versions of ourselves. And we had lunch or

812
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: brunch on the beach and like it was hot and

813
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: we were all so hungover, like dying and emotionally fragile, yes,

814
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: because we hadn't really slept and we're only drinking tequila

815
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: for most of the days. And we decided to go

816
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: around the table and give gold and like pick to

817
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: each person and say what we love about yeah or Vanessa, yeah,

818
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: very Vanessa, Like pick a moment, yes you remember with

819
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: the person, and then tell you how you felt. Like

820
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: if you talk to any of us that were there,

821
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: none of us have forgotten it. And it was like

822
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: so deep, weirdly transcendent. We're like, we shouldn't it shouldn't

823
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: be that meaningful at this moment, it was everyone was bawling, sobbing.

824
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: We couldn't look at hold we were. We were, we

825
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 3: were clenching each other, we were we were holding hands,

826
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: holding bodies, sobbing. Who was there? Kelly, Kevin justin Thorne,

827
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 3: Alex the butcher Marcus. It was also like a weird

828
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: random group.

829
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

830
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, what group? Is this the only You're the

831
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: only China? Yeah wow Yeah. And it was fascinating and

832
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: it was like this weird like everyone just came like

833
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: it was a mixture of like several different groups and

834
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: everyone was just so open. And I will say Vanessa

835
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: and Telly, I think inspire that when you're around them

836
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: for everyone to just be like accepting and open to

837
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: whatever is going to come our way in most in

838
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: a very positive way. And so by the end of

839
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: that trip where we all felt like we're family with

840
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: those I even told them at the airport we're a

841
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: new kind of family. When I tried to she was

842
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: going through immigration and they said are you people family?

843
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 3: She said, yes, that's my family, and they're like, you

844
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: should we be together? And I was like, well, we're

845
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: We're a new kind of family, like.

846
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 4: The old ABC family slogan, like a new new kind

847
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 4: of During that trip, we had what they called like

848
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 4: a butler a house A house. I don't know, and

849
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 4: I feel like we shouldn't.

850
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, if be good, I don't know what

851
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: the word was, but sway was with us like all day.

852
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: I know I'm beside the point right now, but it

853
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: was just he's just looking at you like you are

854
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: off the plot, off the out of the rails. The

855
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: rails brought us to security and cried. Yes, that's how

856
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: crazy this trip was. What were you guys on? I

857
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: don't know out nothing love. Yeah, yeah, I'm not talking

858
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: any friendship rumors, but you know what I mean. Speaks

859
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: to the power of Vanessa's love. Oh that was the

860
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: That was the point on it, because if you were

861
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: not there, that absolutely would not have happened.

862
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 2: Fair.

863
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I usually like to end with people crying. That's

864
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: the killer. Dream wedding dream, dream wedding.

865
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, so before we and Jen feverally looking at

866
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: her papers trying to get us back on.

867
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: At least we have someone respond there's an adult in

868
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: the room. No, I have some questions. Well, some people

869
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: wrote in, lots of people wrote in questions.

870
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: We asked people for questions for you, and I was

871
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: just browsing through all of these and I wanted to

872
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 2: know this as well. So Aaron Charlotte asked, what did

873
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: you think of Diana's impression of sugar and what was

874
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: it like playing Quinn?

875
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: I love that day. That was a great day. It

876
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: was really fun.

877
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: I think Diana is one of the most stunning people, yeah,

878
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: of all time. Just like to look at her. I'm

879
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 3: sure I've told her this a million times, just like

880
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 3: it's captivating. It's like your brain shuts off and you

881
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: kind of just tilt your head and get lost in

882
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,959
Speaker 3: this like beauty.

883
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: That she eminates.

884
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 3: And then I also think she's quite an interesting actress.

885
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 3: Like I remember, like she's like constantly positive, even if

886
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 3: she forgets the line halfway through, you know, so she'd

887
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 3: be like she'd be like talking or saying her line,

888
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 3: and then there'd be this pause, and I remember thinking,

889
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 3: is she.

890
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: Taking a dramatic pause? And then she'd just be like

891
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: what is it? With no guilt, no shame.

892
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 3: I would feel I would I would go home and

893
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 3: just you know, beat myself on the back with something uncomfortable.

894
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: That's a weird thing to say, but whatever was like

895
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: delighted and so and so to switch with her. I've

896
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: sent them off. I've sent Jenna. And that's the best

897
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 1: way anybody's ever explained it, because it's true.

898
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: So I think so I think the opportunity to get

899
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 3: to play her, for me was more to get to

900
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 3: play that because I had been just like observing her

901
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: with this awe and reverence for the you know, for

902
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 3: however long I had been a part of the cast,

903
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 3: and so when I saw that I got to play her,

904
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: it was more really for me to play that part

905
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 3: that I just like this.

906
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: Really, I told you, I like it when people cry.

907
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: She has power. She's going to make you cry. You

908
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: will get there.

909
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'll know you're feeling right now, Jenna,

910
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: how do you feel there's a feeling of elation because

911
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 3: I think we're all in a room together, and so

912
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 3: I'm feeling like buzzy.

913
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: It's like I'm drunk, but I'm not. I'm drunk on love,

914
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: and I just this is a really great observation and

915
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: a way to explain something that I never fully could

916
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 2: put words to. So it felt very rewarding in them.

917
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 3: That's it.

918
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: Wow, there's a revelation. I hope that answers her question.

919
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: Thank you for a good question. What watching them play

920
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: each other? You both have extroversive energy. You guys were

921
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: my favorite, Like Dana was up and like dancing, Like yeah,

922
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, who are these people? We really

923
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: did see like people transformed in that episode. It was

924
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: really so fun and different. It was like we were

925
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: honoring each other. You know, yes, exactly, except some people

926
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: didn't take it well. But yeah, if you can't make

927
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: fun of yourself, I know, crash test comic wants to know,

928
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: did you prefer Sugar was Rory or Artie? Oh, crash Test, pardon,

929
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: don't worry about that. Okay, I want to say, because

930
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to hurt his feelings. Is the problem

931
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: is in the room. We won't tell him. No, okay, no,

932
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: I won't tell him.

933
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 3: I The thing I never got out of Glee was

934
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 3: that we didn't have a relationship. Sugar and Lartie did

935
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 3: not have a full relationship. That there was no makeout scenes.

936
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 3: I really would have loved to see that. There's still

937
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 3: time when we apparently there's like reboot whatever, or just

938
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 3: let's make our own show. Okay, we can just make

939
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 3: or we can just make out after this, that's perfect.

940
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 3: What happens at the Win in Vegas gets on this podcast. No,

941
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: of course already I know whatever Rory got me a puppy,

942
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm at the time, I was

943
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 3: very allergic to dogs, so actually that was a terrible gift. No,

944
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 3: I've i've, I could get into it, but I've convinced

945
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 3: myself I've i've, i've, i've got I'm not allergic to

946
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 3: dogs anymore.

947
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: Wow.

948
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,959
Speaker 3: I also had to be a dog trainer on Turner

949
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: and who really figure it out? And those are not

950
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 3: hyperlog which actually will just give you the rundown because

951
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 3: it's so weird. And I think you're going to really

952
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: love this about me. I read this thing that said

953
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 3: sometimes kids with childhood allergies make them up because their

954
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 3: parents aren't giving them enough attention, and they have no

955
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: other way to like call for attention other than to

956
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 3: have this reaction because they're competing with the animals, and

957
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 3: that as an adult, we are allowed and we don't

958
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: realize or remember that we can ask for the attention

959
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 3: that we need and that we can create a new

960
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 3: sense of safety for ourselves and we don't have to

961
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 3: be in competition with these animals.

962
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: And I kid you not, I hope this is for you.

963
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: Maybe you have an allergy that you can get over.

964
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: I kid you not.

965
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 3: I just started telling myself, Vanessa, you're safe and if

966
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 3: you want attention, you can ask for it. And I

967
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 3: am no longer allergic to dogs. And I'm telling you

968
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 3: I was full on, like sneezy nose hives the whole thing.

969
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 3: So I mean, you know, wow, I am also Vanessa.

970
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor.

971
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: Please do not like, get off your allergy medication and

972
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 3: blame me for your hospital visit.

973
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. But I just think that that's you know,

974
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: if anyone else said that, I would have been like, yeah,

975
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: they're lying. Yeah, but I believe it. If you don't

976
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: understand or believe in the power of Vanessa after this episode,

977
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Nothing away from this I have. I

978
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: have one What was your biggest takeaway from Glee? Professionally

979
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: and personally? That's from Coco five to five. But then

980
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: additionally Bella new Grace said, why did you disappear from

981
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: the show's so great, so three parter?

982
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 3: Personally, I think our friendships, like, without a doubt, I

983
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 3: can't believe how many hard times that we've gone through

984
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: together after the show, which also deepened our friendship. But

985
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 3: even if let's say we hadn't had those things happen,

986
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 3: I just feel like there was there is something about

987
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 3: being together for fifteen to seventeen hours a.

988
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: Day for years. That makes you close with someone forever

989
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: and you still like each other. We like each other.

990
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 3: And also just yeah, just like come yeah, I just

991
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 3: felt really, I think this is the vibe that I

992
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 3: told you I felt in the audition. There's some vibe.

993
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 3: I felt like, Oh, I've found a family. I'm going

994
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 3: to be in this family. This is what the family

995
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 3: feels like and it hasn't changed. So that was my

996
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: biggest personal takeaway. And also shout out to Tally Kusakis

997
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 3: Aristotle Causakis because.

998
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: He's my ride or die.

999
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I met him through Glee and he's save

1000
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 3: my life not to sound dramatic, but definitely saved my

1001
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,959
Speaker 3: life emotionally and and and so I'm just like, wow,

1002
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you out of it.

1003
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: So there's that.

1004
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 3: And then professionally, I think, you know, Instagram gives me anxiety,

1005
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 3: but all of those followers that I have on Instagram,

1006
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: which now in today's world is you know, not that many,

1007
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 3: but all of those people who give me so much

1008
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 3: love on a regular basis came from Glee. So I

1009
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 3: think professionally that was just like a big shift in

1010
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 3: my life. I love that for you, thank you.

1011
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: And then the third question was probably the why did

1012
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: Trigger disappear from Glee? That's right, do you know? Okay,

1013
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: so this is my this is my yeah thought. I

1014
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: love this. I think that, Okay, this is this is

1015
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: what I think.

1016
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 3: I think that when they were filming scenes, I wasn't

1017
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 3: the best dnswer and I wasn't the best singer and

1018
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 3: it was probably costing them a lot to try to

1019
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 3: like make it work.

1020
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: And that's what I that's what I took that to mean.

1021
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 3: And then if I could take one hundred percent responsibility

1022
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: for why, like you know, because that's what I do now,

1023
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 3: just try to take responsibility for everything.

1024
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: I was really mad that they killed Corey's character. I

1025
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: really wanted.

1026
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 3: Him to live on, Like I wanted it to just

1027
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 3: be written that he went somewhere and just is living

1028
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 3: a great life and h m hmm. Inside I was like,

1029
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 3: that's fucked up. It's fucked up, like you know, in

1030
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 3: my in my my opinion, which is not you know,

1031
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 3: it's just me. I just and I think it's just

1032
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 3: it's it's actually just that I had a really really

1033
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 3: deep desire for him to live on somewhere and then

1034
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 3: they just took that away and I was like this,

1035
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 3: I don't I'm my heart is broken.

1036
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: That was very so.

1037
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's if I'm taking responsibility for

1038
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 3: why there was a but it came back for the

1039
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 3: wedding episode, which was like the vest.

1040
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: Day Ever did you ever did you voice that to

1041
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: anyone or do you just feel like you emanated that?

1042
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: And I feel like it emanated it.

1043
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 3: I feel like I probably told Telly because he knows

1044
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: every single thing for just to know about me. But no,

1045
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 3: I don't think I made a stink about it. I

1046
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: just like judged, just silently judged.

1047
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: I did. I'm glad that when we had Ryan on

1048
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: he talked about that. But tell me what he said.

1049
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: He said, wouldn't do it again? Yeah, because there was

1050
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: there was. I think there's no right way, no to

1051
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: do it. Definitely not. It was a lose lose no

1052
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: matter what, absolutely and like none of us wanted to.

1053
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 3: Do it the show there he said, Yeah, it's just

1054
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 3: like one of those things where you might have this,

1055
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 3: you might be like making this a part of the

1056
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 3: show might be good for processing and digesting this really unfathomable,

1057
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 3: un yeah, you know, I can't say the word we

1058
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 3: did baffling experience, but I don't feel like that's actually

1059
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 3: what happened. I felt like it it created more distance

1060
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 3: between people to have to bring the grieving process to

1061
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 3: the set and have it, you know, and and uh, yeah,

1062
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 3: I have a lot of opinions about that. I think

1063
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 3: that's probably why energetically I popped out.

1064
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: I think that's I mean, that makes a lot of

1065
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: sense because we were all feeling that way. Yeah, I

1066
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: think you just voiced it because I didn't have a

1067
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: solution either. I'm like, can we just ignore it? I

1068
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: put like the greatest Moment's greatest hits together or something. Yeah,

1069
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: like that's I mean, there's no right way to do it,

1070
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: but I agree that there's could be wrong ways to

1071
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: do it.

1072
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and there there isn't a wrong way,

1073
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: you know, because it was done that way. So I

1074
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 3: guess like, looking back, like that's just and that that

1075
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 3: really does represent how why Glee was so beloved because

1076
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: they they they took those inside your insides and put

1077
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 3: them on the outside, and people were just drinking it up.

1078
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: They're like, I just love this.

1079
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 3: This is like look at these all these amazing, talented

1080
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Speaker 3: beings and I can I get to see the inside

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Speaker 3: of them, no matter how exploitive and you know, vulnerable.

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Speaker 3: That was for everyone on the cast, So you know,

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Speaker 3: so that was good. And then I guess when I

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Speaker 3: think of the audience, I don't know, I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what. You guys have.

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Speaker 3: Feedback you've gotten from their experience of how they wanted.

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Speaker 3: You know, Glee is like that because people loved it

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Speaker 3: so much, you kind of do want to take care

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Speaker 3: of them in a sense like I wouldn't. I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: give anybody advice to validate fans because that can be messy.

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Speaker 3: But there's there is something in me that wants everyone

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Speaker 3: who loved Glee to know that they're not alone and

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Speaker 3: that they're loved. And this grief is hard, and especially

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Speaker 3: all the grief that you know has piled on. But

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Speaker 3: what am I even trying to say? I'm just trying

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Speaker 3: to not make it wrong. But yeah, at the time, I.

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Speaker 1: Was like, yeah, yeah, it felt yeah, yeah it was yeah,

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Speaker 1: just really it was really easy to cry in a scene.

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Speaker 1: The opposite, I was angry. Yeah, I was just like,

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Speaker 1: you're not getting this from me. Oh God, that's hard,

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Speaker 1: because it was just hard not to.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think, just like they they should have counselors and

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Speaker 1: therapists there, you know.

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Speaker 2: Well, Ryan had said also in the when he came

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Speaker 2: on the show, like we're mental health was not a

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Speaker 2: thing in the workplace when we were there, things would

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Speaker 2: be so different, and the way they handled my whole

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Speaker 2: thing would have been different, the way they handled Corey

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Speaker 2: would have a different they handled a lot would have

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Speaker 2: been different, and everybody would have had support and would

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Speaker 2: have felt like they had something that was offered that

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Speaker 2: felt normalized.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I think they had offered like if we needed a

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Speaker 2: grief counselor they could get one for us, but none

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Speaker 2: of us were doing that at the time, and none.

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Speaker 1: Of us felt like and it didn't feel Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a very strange experience, but fortunately like learning

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Speaker 1: whilst going through it. Yeah, right, So no, you're allowed

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Speaker 1: to feel the way you feel. And a lot of

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Speaker 1: people felt that way. And I actually don't know how

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Speaker 1: many how people feel about that, particularly, I mean I

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Speaker 1: think people that I have spoken to me about it,

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Speaker 1: like the episode, I guess they wouldn't speak to me

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Speaker 1: if they didn't like the episode, right, But I've always

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Speaker 1: found that really interesting. I'm always shocked by it because

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Speaker 1: of how we all felt about it, like, oh, you

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Speaker 1: liked that.

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Speaker 2: But I think I can understand they were watching the

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Speaker 2: characters though they weren't watching us, and so we were

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Speaker 2: doing ourselves. We weren't doing our characters. Yeah, that's the difference. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that's really hard because they don't know. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: can only understand.

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Speaker 3: That's why you have this show, because this is this

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Speaker 3: is this is the actual processing, by the way, what

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Speaker 3: you guys are doing, this is this is where you

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Speaker 3: get to go back and alchemize the experience because now

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Speaker 3: people do get to know and then there's not this

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Speaker 3: separation right between what was what was remembered as as

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Speaker 3: the truth and then there's like, no, there's there's more

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Speaker 3: to it.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's amazing. I think that's amazing. I

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01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: think what you're doing is amazing. On a lighter note

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01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: that when we're right in that, I am, but I'm

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Speaker 1: so grateful that you're here. And then, how does you

1147
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: feel about pom Poms? We know how you feel about

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Speaker 1: sure Sugar was pompoms? Did your back hurt from carrying

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Speaker 1: the comedy of Glee throughout the series, I will go

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Speaker 1: on a date with you does a great line me

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Speaker 1: pb uh seven oh one? Thank you because that really

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Speaker 1: just took me. Yeah, I was like Vanessa, Yes, darling,

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Speaker 1: we are just so grateful that you are here with us.

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Speaker 1: You are such a light you have you have always

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Speaker 1: been a light to us, and then you continued to

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01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: shine so brightly for us. Every time. It seeps through

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Speaker 1: your pores and it is contagious and unavoidable. Damn you

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Speaker 1: did that, you did that. I have nothing else to add.

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Speaker 1: We love you. Vanessa is also like our new co

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Speaker 1: host for a couple episodes, a couple episodes, so this

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Speaker 1: is strap In and she's here for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: So Vanessa, thank you so much. Thank you. See you

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Speaker 1: next week. Yes, and that's what you really bess by.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening and follow us on Instagram at end,

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01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: that's what you really miss pod and make sure to

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Speaker 1: write us a review and leave us five stars. See

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Speaker 1: you next time.