1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: from House Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: We're about to talk about mirrors. I set up it's 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: a SINCU. How are you Were you in the mirrors 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: growing up? Now that we said, you know, I did 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: it sccinctly, We're gonna just blow like three minutes, right, No, 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: I was asking you if you were in the mirrors 10 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: in the mirrors growing up? Yeah, I mean that didn't 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: every kid go through a phase where they're like very 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: obsessed with their looks and mirrors and things. Oh yeah, 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: I was into myself. I wasn't in the mirrors. They 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: were just means to end, you know. Yeah, But I 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: like I was reading this and I kind of was 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: just thinking myself and remembering laughing about I remember being 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: like fifteen and like stopping to look at mirrors anytime 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: there was one to see what looks like. Yeah, and 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: now I just break them. I'd forgotten all about that 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: phase of my life though, until you just brought it up, 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: remember that. Yeah, it's nice to be able to not 22 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: look at a mirror. Like some days. I'll go out, 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, after getting ready in the morning, and I 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: have no idea what I actually look like. But I'm 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: so and this is um this cross pollination with an 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: earlier podcast. I suffered from body dysmorphic disorder so badly 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: that I don't really know what I look like anyway. 28 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,279 Speaker 1: I think I look a bit like theme from taxidermia. 29 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: What's that? It's not plusant? Okay, well you don't my friend. 30 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: I don't even know what he looks like, but I 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: can tell you don't look like him. I appreciate that, Chuck, Chuck, 32 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: do you want to hear what I had in store? Like? 33 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: I could not come up with an intro for this. 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: Let's Websters defines mirror. I'm kidding. I always going to 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: say something equally bad, though it was going to be 36 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: something along the lines with mirrors are ubiquitous. I've seen 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: at least six of them today. They weren't always that way, though, Chuck. Well, 38 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: it says in the article here the full length mirrors 39 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: have only been around four hundred years. That didn't seem right. 40 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: That's not right, No, um full length mirrors. There is 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: a type of full length mirror UM that has been 42 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: around for about four hundred years. Full length mirrors, as 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: far as I know, are mirrors capable of reflecting a 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: full image of a person, have been around since about 45 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: the first century a D. Actually, UM and mirrors us 46 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: using surfaces, polished surfaces to see our own reflection. UM 47 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: has been around since about six thousand BC. Yeah. The 48 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: earliest ones were found in Anatolia, Turkey, and they're polished obsidian. Yeah, 49 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: it's a volcanic glass. Yeah, so it's it's dark. That's interesting, 50 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: but it's still produced the best reflection, I guess at 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: the time. At the time, I mean, you gotta you 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: gotta go with what you what we have to work with, right, Well, yeah, 53 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: but then after that they led them to um like 54 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: silver and bronze and copper, polished polished reflection spasics and chuck. 55 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever held a hunk of 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: of copper or bronze I haven't, or silver I have. Okay, 57 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: it's heavy, Yeah, it's real heavy. Right. So this actually 58 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: limited the size of mirrors for centuries, right, Yeah, And 59 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: they were just kind of decorative at first two right, 60 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: I think so. And you also had to be extremely 61 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: rich um to own one of these, right um. And 62 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: then around I think the Middle Ages, we became capable 63 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: of making glass, and all of a sudden it was 64 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: like mirror technology just takes a huge leap forward. Well true, 65 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: but not not super uh forward, because the sand was 66 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: pretty impure back then they used to make the glass. 67 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: So I think they, um they said in the article, 68 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: was until like the Renaissance that it kind of really 69 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: started becoming a little more polished, if you will, terrible. 70 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: And then the Venetians are who really you know with 71 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: a glass and everything. They just they just took in 72 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: ran with it. Well. Even still, if you successfully made 73 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: a mirror, um, it was probably extremely expensive as well 74 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: because they were so rare. The process of manufacturing a 75 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: mirror um very infrequently produced a usable mirror. That's what 76 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: you're doing was adhering um melted molten metal onto glass, 77 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: which almost always broke the glass. So when it didn't, 78 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're just like, oh my god's the first 79 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: one in seven years? Right um? But that when I 80 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: was reading this article, I didn't really think about it. 81 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: That's what a mirror is, isn't it. I've even seen 82 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: the back of mirrors and been like others like metal 83 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: looks like spray painted on the back. That's exactly right. 84 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 1: And that was the process, um what's it called silver 85 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: ring that was invented by a guy named Justice von 86 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: Liebig and in a team thirty five. If you figured 87 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: out how to spray very thin layer of silver um 88 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: or aluminum on the back or on one side of 89 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: a glass, and they're, my friend, you have the modern mirror. Yeah, 90 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: and now they I think they make it now by 91 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: heating aluminum in a vacuum and kind of much the 92 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: same way or different methods, but the same same concept. 93 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Well, I wanted to say when when you 94 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: were talking about the Renaissance, the Venetians were they? I 95 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: guess they had the secret of mirrors under wraps like 96 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: the Mason's very much so. Um. And if you were 97 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: a mirror maker and it got out that you had 98 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: told someone how to make mirrors, you were frequently killed. Right, Yeah, 99 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: trade secret. But when mirrors were introduced, um, when good 100 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: mirrors were introduced, not polished obsidian, things changed a little bit, 101 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: especially with art. Right. Yeah, I never really considered that, 102 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: but that it spawned something that would become a mark 103 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: of the art world, which is the self portrait. Right 104 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: before that, you couldn't draw yourself because you could not 105 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: see yourself. That's exactly right, And you could, but I 106 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: mean you're gonna use like maybe a pond or a 107 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: piece of polished medal or something like that. Imagine like 108 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: going out and looking at a pond and going back 109 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: and sitting down now as opposed to having a mirror there. Yes, 110 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 1: really simplified it. It's also not coincidental that UM good 111 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: mirrors came about at the same time that UM linear 112 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: perspective was introduced into art. Yeah, there's a guy named 113 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: UM Filippo Brunus Brunelleschi. Nice Chuck, thank you for doing that. UM, 114 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: and he he, I guess discovered linear perspective because I 115 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: think it's one of the things that was always there. 116 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: We just stumbled upon it through mirrors. That's how we 117 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: figured it out. Yeah, because if you look at a mirror, 118 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, linear perspective really comes into focus, right, 119 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: you will. Well, And then scientists UM said, hey, we 120 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: could use these to make like reflecting telescopes, and that 121 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: was what year was at That was a long time ago. 122 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: The first reflecting telescope was invented by a guy named 123 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: James Bradley just off the top of my head. Very 124 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: well then, uh, And the mirrors were also used by 125 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: a very very famous scientist early scientists named Archimedes. Supposedly 126 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: I wrote an article on archimedes death. Ray, Oh did 127 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: you write that? Yeah? Did you ever read it? I 128 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: did back in a while ago, just out of interest? 129 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: How about that? Thanks a lot man? Sure did you 130 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: see in it? Um? Some I can't remember. It was 131 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: one of the Ivy League schools. They tried to set 132 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: things on fire with this system of mirrors, that arch 133 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: that's who it was, and they succeeded. Yes, And the 134 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: MythBusters claimed it was busted, like they set a small fire. 135 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: But I think they busted it because they said it 136 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: wasn't enough to like sink a ship. But m I 137 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: T I mean, they caused quite a fire on that boat. 138 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: And of course they had. I mean I saw this 139 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: set up online today. It was pretty massive. Of Archimedes 140 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: had that kind of technology or at least that many 141 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: mirrors at its disposal, or maybe he did. And plus 142 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: they had I think they used pretty good mirrors too. Yeah, 143 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: well it was legend though. They don't know if the 144 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: Archimedes thing is true. Right, we know that he invented 145 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: the water screw and let's saved countless lives. What's that 146 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: It's a way to deliver water from the ground top side. 147 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: Oh really yeah? Cool? You have to check it out, 148 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: smart dude. Um, so, Chuck, we now know the comprehensive 149 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: broad strokes of the history of mirrors. Right, Yes, let's 150 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: talk about mirror physics. We work for how stuff works 151 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: dot com, which means we're pretty much obligated to discuss 152 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: the physics of whatever we're talking about any time it applies, right, 153 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: And that's true, and mirrors are definitely one of those times. Yes, 154 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: so Chuck take it away. Well, I can cover the 155 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: first part because it makes sense to me. The law 156 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: of reflection um Josh says that when you bounce a 157 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: ray of light off the surface, it bounces back off 158 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: in a certain way, and it is um the angle 159 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: of incidences is when it comes in the angle of reflection, 160 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: it when it bounces off, and it matches so that 161 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: the way they pointed out in the article, which makes 162 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 1: sense to me is like at sunset, the sun is 163 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: very low on the horizon, so it bounces off at 164 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: a low angle, or approaches the water at a low angle, 165 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: like at a lake, let's say, and then it bounces 166 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: off of that lake at the same low angle, like 167 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: right into your face. But if it seems brighter if 168 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: the sun's overhead though, yeah, the sunlight is coming down 169 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: under the lake and it's reflecting back up basically over 170 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: your head. Yeah, you're looking at a horizontal angle pretty much, 171 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: and this is happening on a vertical angle. Yeah, that's 172 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: why you'll get like more glare at a sunrise or 173 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: a sunset scenario. Um. And what you're saying, the angle 174 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: of incidence equals the angle of reflection, right. Indeed, if 175 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: you take if if a if a beam of light 176 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: is shot at a ninety degree angle or no, let's 177 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: say eighty degree angle, it's gonna bounce off at an 178 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: opposite eighty degree angle. So both are at eighty degrees. 179 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: But if you look at the whole thing, the incidents 180 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: and the reflection, it's going to cover a hundred and 181 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: sixty degrees right, all right. So that's the first part. 182 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: That's that's how That explains how light reacts with the reflection, 183 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: and that's where the smooth surface with with most things 184 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: like say, look at my hand man, take a look 185 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: at these hands. Um, the the the light that's bouncing 186 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: off of them. What's giving us the ability to see 187 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: these huge, awesome hands, Um, is that they're not huge? 188 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: Are they are the smaller than average size? No, they're 189 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: they're bigger than mine. I got small hands. I wouldn't 190 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: see you have small hands. Let's see now those are like, 191 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: those are totally normal. I don't have hair in the 192 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: back of my hands either. I've got hair on my 193 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: first knuckles. Yeah, Robin Williams. Um, what's allowing us to 194 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: see our hands right now and judge their size and 195 00:10:55,240 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: scale is, um, what's called diffuse reflection, which the light 196 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: that's coming off of all of these light bulbs right 197 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: now are hitting all these different areas, these different services 198 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: on my hands, and it's bouncing off, it's being scattered 199 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: right the mirror the highly reflective surface. Um, what we 200 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: have is called specular reflection, and that is where it's 201 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: pretty close to the law of reflection, where the angles 202 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: coming in at one or the lights coming in at 203 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: one angle, and coming off at the same degree in 204 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: the opposite direction, right, Um, which is why we're allowed 205 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: to see ourselves in a piece of glass with metal 206 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: on the back. And what this creates when you're looking 207 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: at yourself is called the virtual image. Right. I find 208 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: it fascinating. Yeah, me too, and it's a little brain 209 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: melty for me, of course. But at the same time 210 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: you realize, like, well, you've grown up around mirrors the 211 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: whole time, and no one has any real concept of 212 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: of how they work. Right. We just take for granted 213 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: that they do work, but you don't really give much 214 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: thought to how they're working, right, Like the Venus effect. 215 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: Did you read about that? Yeah? That that's explained that 216 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: because this is where when we talk about or actually 217 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: the Venus effect is two different things, and both of 218 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: them kind of melt my brain that the left and 219 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: right being reversed, which is not actually true, and then 220 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: the venus effects. So let's talk about both of those. Okay, Well, 221 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: the Venus effect is basically just shows how little we 222 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: can grasp or how little we grasp mirrors and how 223 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: they work. If you look at um, paintings of the 224 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: Venus de Milo or Venus the goddess um Almost always 225 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: she's holding a hand mirror, and in the painting you 226 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: can see her face in the mirror, but she's looking 227 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: at herself in the mirror, and her face is painted 228 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: in the mirror for the benefit of the viewer. But 229 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: you take for granted that she's viewing herself, when in actuality, 230 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: if you could see Venus's face in the mirror, she 231 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to see herself. She'd see you in 232 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: the mirror because of that angle or the law of reflection. Yeah, 233 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: and that's the only way I only understood that was 234 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: when I remembered, like in my film set days, when 235 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: you shoot a person looking in a mirror, they aren't. 236 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: They don't see themselves in the mirror clearly, because he 237 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: would see the camera behind them, so that the mirror 238 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: is angled and it looks like they're looking at themselves 239 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: and primping, but they're not seeing themselves. Pretty cool, right, 240 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: So that makes sense to me now, it does, doesn't it. Okay, 241 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: the other thing you were saying is left and right, Yeah, 242 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: it's not actually left and right. Yeah, this one was 243 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: a little brain melty, but I think I finally got 244 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: it too. Okay, So consider that what you're not what 245 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: you're seeing isn't actually your reflection, but another version of 246 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: yourself in the mirror world. Right. If you look at 247 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: it that way, then the mirror represents the halfway point. 248 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: It's always halfway between you and your virtual self, right, right, 249 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: because your virtual self, that image of yourself in the 250 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: mirror is always twice as it's always two times away 251 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: from you, with the mirror representing the halfway point. Right, 252 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: So your two feet from the mirror and your virtual 253 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: self is another two feet away from you. Right, You 254 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. Yeah, And the left and right 255 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: thing isn't really left and right, it's really front and 256 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: back that are reversed. You again, think of yourself as 257 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: the virtual image. Yes, you walk into the mirror world, 258 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: you take you go another two feet away from where 259 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: you were just standing, So you're now your four feet 260 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: away from where you're just standing and turn around, right, 261 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: Which is weird because it actually gives the virtual image 262 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: something of its own identity, doesn't it does. It's a 263 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: little creepy. Yeah, So when you're looking at a mirror, 264 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,239 Speaker 1: you're it's not a reflection of you from the mirrors perspective. 265 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: It's like that. The one example they gave was if 266 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: you wrote something on a piece of paper and then 267 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: held that paper up to the light and looked at 268 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: it from the back, it would appear backwards. But it's 269 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: not right. You're just behind it, yes, isn't it. Yeah, 270 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting stuff. And I gotta say when you 271 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: two things, when you mentioned doing mirrors, I said to myself, really, 272 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: And then when we told Jerry what we were doing 273 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: this on, she was like really, yeah, but it's I 274 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: think it's much more interesting than I originally thought. Well again, 275 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: it's like the butterfly swings, you know, like we just 276 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: have to know that if we're gonna understand absolutely everything 277 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: that's going on in the world, which is our mission. Yes. Uh, 278 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: should we talk about curved mirrors now? Yeah, because we 279 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: were talking about virtual images. There's actually a way to 280 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: project a real image where this thing isn't in the mirror. 281 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: It's outside of the mirror, but it's not really there. 282 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: It's a projected image, and that uses um concave mirrors. 283 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: You might be familiar with holograms, right, is that the 284 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: same concept the concave mirrors? And actually, if you want 285 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: to see a really cool example of UM a hologram 286 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: produced by a set of concave and flat mirrors. Um. 287 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: You should type in mirrage in YouTube and look for 288 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: the one that's a lowercase just mirrage and it's a 289 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: little piggy um, and it's pretty cool the demonstration that 290 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: this guy does. Yeah, check that out. But chuck, there's 291 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: concave and convex, right, Yeah. Convex is the one that 292 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: curves outward and uh, it reflects at a wider angle 293 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: near the edges in the center, so things are actually 294 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: smaller and you can cover more areas. So that's why 295 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: they'll use those. Uh, they'll stick them on like your 296 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: passenger mirrors, so you can see more area around your car. 297 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: And it also notes, you know, objects or smaller than 298 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: they appear or closer than they appear. Objects are smaller 299 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: than the appear, but they are smaller than they than 300 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: they appear. But that's not really that doesn't matter. It's 301 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: whether they're like in your back seat or not. Yeah, 302 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: and they actually Um. There are have been rumors over 303 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: the years that department stores put convex mirrors slightly convex 304 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: mirrors in their changing rooms to make you like a pear, tallerant, 305 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: thinner in the clothing that you try on. Remember that 306 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: Seinfeld where Eline like buys that dress, They had a 307 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: skinny mirror, And I think Barneys are blooming deals. Yeah, 308 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: forget about that. Yeah, I don't know. I think that's 309 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: probably urban legend, but who knows, um chuck. The other one, 310 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: like we said, was concave converging. We use this for holograms. 311 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: They also use that to light the Olympic torch. Yeah. 312 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that either. I think that's a nod 313 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: to Archimedes too, probably, so you're probably a little more 314 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: um acquainted with convex mirrors. No concave mirrors for like 315 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: shaving or No, those horrible mirrors that show your like 316 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: hair into jail. Those are awful, they really are. Don't 317 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: ever look in those nonreversing mirror, which really is pretty simple. 318 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: It's just two mirrors perpendicular to each other, right, Yeah, 319 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: And the deal is with that they meet at the angle, 320 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: and so you technically can see a non reverse image, 321 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: but you've got that line running down the center of you. 322 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: They don't make like a flat, single nonreversing mirror, No, 323 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: they don't. I think it's physically impossible. It's not like 324 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: they don't make it like they're not interested. It's just 325 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: can't be done. But what's funny is there's a guy 326 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: named Um John Derby who has a patent. In seven 327 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: when he was alive, he had a patent for a 328 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: nonreversing mirror. By sticking two mirrors together, I could get 329 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: a patent for that. I could fill out the patent 330 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: application for that. Could Yeah, it's like take mirror A 331 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: and you stick it perpendicular to mirr B right there, 332 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: give me my patent. Well, but then John Derby's family 333 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: would come after you. Hopefully it ran out by now, 334 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: and just for simpleness, Josh, two way mirrors as seen 335 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: in every cop shakedown movie ever made. Yes, now, this 336 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: is fascinating, Chuck. How does the two way mirror work? Well, 337 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: it's really pretty easy. It's just it's the same concept 338 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: of the mirror, but it's a very thin. It's very 339 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: much a lighter reflection the material they use and the 340 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: coated side. When it faces the lit room, some of 341 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: the light reflects and some goes into the dark room 342 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: behind it. So basically, like you know, you can't you 343 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: can see only see one way right because of the 344 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: light mainly, so it's just like very thin reflective surface 345 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: where if you're not if you turn in, if you 346 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: turn on lights in both rooms, you'd be able to 347 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: see through that reflective surface. Right. Yeah, it's all about 348 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: the lighting. And that's a movie there. There's several movie 349 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: mirror things that are done in like every movie, and 350 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: that's one of them with the Coton movie. And inevitably 351 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: the person getting questioned will always walk right up and 352 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: like be staring into the face of the person on 353 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: the other side that they can't see. And then the 354 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: other favorite of mine, which one of the SNL shorts aped, 355 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: was um the classic horror movie scene where you where 356 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: you look in the medicine cabinet in the mirror and 357 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: then you open the medicine cabinet and then you close 358 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: it and the dude is right behind you. That's a classic. 359 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: It is there's UM again on YouTube. I think there's 360 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: a a montage, like a four minute montage of that 361 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: being used over and times. Dude and it still gets people. Yeah, 362 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: but now that the whole spin is to do that 363 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: and then there's not someone there, and then they'll turn 364 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: around and that's where they are something just jerking the 365 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: audience around. That's in there too. Oh it is, huh yeah, yeah, 366 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: it's not just people closing there, someone saying there's ones 367 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: where they're not standing there. Yeah. I love those movie 368 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: conventions that are The other one too, is it doesn't 369 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: even do with mirrors, but the scene where you're where 370 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: someone is searching for the files and then the person 371 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: office after dark and you know they're coming up the 372 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: steps and they opened the door and you're like they're pinched, 373 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: and then they open the door and the person's gone 374 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: and there's like a window open, right, and it's just 375 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: like the curtains. Hundreds and hundreds of time is still 376 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: done yet I'm still like, oh my gosh, here they come. 377 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: What about Poultergeist, the great classic mirror scene of the 378 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: guys like picking at that little clister and ends up 379 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: pulling his whole face off. Yeah that's pretty creepy. Yeah, classic. 380 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: Thank you Toby Hooper. Did he make that? Yeah? I like, oh, 381 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: that's right, he reproduced it, right, that's right. I always 382 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: think he directed that. What else, Chuck, Well, there's some 383 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 1: superstitions around mirrors in folklore, um summoning bloody Mary by 384 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: saying her names three times in a mirror, or candy 385 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: Man if you're a little more recent, breaking a mirror 386 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: supposedly bad luck because um for seven years, because they 387 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: believe that the soul regenerates every seven years. Yeah, that 388 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: explains it, doesn't it. Yeah, And that's why vampires have 389 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: no soul. That's why they can't see themselves in mirrors. 390 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: And a couple of them I haven't heard of are 391 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: if you give birth and look in a mirror too 392 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: soon afterward, you will see ghostly faces peek out from 393 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: behind the reflection. I've never heard that one in you know, 394 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: I had heard of suiting Shiva though, Yeah, what's the 395 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: deal with that one? Well, if you're Jewish and somebody dies, 396 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: part of the morning process is to cover all the 397 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: mirrors in the house to say that in the talmud. 398 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: Shut up, Chuck. Also, we have gotten conflicting um information 399 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: about whether or not it is taboo among Judaism to 400 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: be cremated. Did you notice? Yeah? And what we and 401 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: I'll stand behind what we found, which was that reform 402 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: Jews will do it, but they it's still not like 403 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: encouraged and then but it is actually forbidden in the 404 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: actual Jewish text. So there, fine, is that it? I 405 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: think that's about it? Um? Oh New Year's Eve? Right, Yeah, 406 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 1: I hadn't heard this one in there. If you go 407 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: up to a mirror on New Year's even a candle 408 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: in your hand, and you say the name of a 409 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: dead person, probably a dead loved one, UM, in a 410 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: loud voice, their face should appear in the mirror. Never 411 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: heard that. And this is my favorite one, the ancient 412 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: Chinese mythology. Um. You know how you see weird movement 413 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: in like the corner of a mirror every once in 414 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: a while. Have you ever noticed that? Uh? Sure, I 415 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: just figured it was like your mind playing tricks on you. 416 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure it is, unless you're Chinese pal then what 417 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: it is are the um, the mirror people, the mere Kingdom. 418 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: There's a group of opposites who live in the Mirror Kingdom, 419 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: and they are sworn to do battle with us. Yeah, 420 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: and if this were North mythology, we'd lose, and we 421 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: may lose in this case too. But they are in 422 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: a I guess a magical slumber. Um. But when we 423 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: catch a little weird, unexplained movement in the corners of mirrors. Um, 424 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: this is these people stirring in their sleep, waiting to 425 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: wake up and kill us all in our sleep. I'll 426 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: remember that next time I see something in the corner 427 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: of my eye. Yeah. So that's it for mirrors. Um, 428 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: that's it. I mean, that is it? Nothing else? There 429 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: is literally nothing else to say about mirrors. Nope, and 430 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: uh if you think that there is, we defy you 431 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: to go to house stuff works dot com and type 432 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: mirrors into the search bar. Pal dare you listener mails? 433 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: Listener mail Josh, this is a little uh cool organization 434 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: that we want to support here And how long you've 435 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: been smoked free buddy? It's over four months now, crazy, 436 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: isn't so proud? Hi chucking Josh. I travel outside the 437 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: city every weekend, listen to your podcast, and I always 438 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: share my new knowledge with friends. Needless to say, I'm 439 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: the Friday Night smarty pants and I'd rather like it. 440 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: Why I'm writing I want to promote the New York 441 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: City Walk to Beat Lung Cancer. I'm one of the 442 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: head chair persons. At years old, I never thought I 443 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: would share anything, but I love my new responsibility as 444 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: I am making a huge difference to an underdog cause, 445 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: how could cancer be an underdog? Josh is the question. 446 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's pretty bad. When you 447 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: hear someone has lung cancer, the first thing that comes 448 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: to your mind is probably did he or she smoked? 449 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: It never fails, it is a valid question. Uh. Funding 450 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: for lung cancers, completely dwarfed by other cancers that are 451 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: nearly as fatal and is completely due to the stigma 452 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: of a smoker's disease get turned away by sponsors and 453 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: media all the time because no one wants to support 454 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: a disease that is so preventable. But the thing is, 455 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: it isn't people who get LC second hand? UH, for 456 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: no reason at all, happens all the time. Why don't 457 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: people ask those with skin cancer if they wore sunscreen 458 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: or people who have heart attacks if they ate. Well, 459 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: it's just silly, But looking at the numbers, it just 460 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: doesn't add up. Um. So here's what we're gonna do, Jess, 461 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: since you were the chair, there's an event in New 462 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: York City, New York City. It's called the Walk to 463 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: Prevent I'm sorry, the Walk to Beat Lung Cancer Lung Cancer, 464 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: and it is October two thousand ten in Battery Park 465 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: and if you would like to take part in this 466 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: walk to beat Lung cancer, Jess would really appreciate it. 467 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: You can go to a website www dot longevity see 468 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: what they did there, dot org slash NYC walk, so 469 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: that is l U n G E v I T 470 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: Y dot org slash NYC walk. 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