Speaker 1: Questlove Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode
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Speaker 2: Hey, Sugar, Steve and This classic QLs episode takes us
Speaker 2: back to December twenty seventh, two thoy seventeen. Comedian and
Speaker 2: actor Roy Wood Junior looks back on the roller coaster
Speaker 2: year that was twenty seventeen with Questlove and Team Supreme.
Speaker 3: Where were you? I gotta take it on them long
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Speaker 4: So two thy seventeen is over. Yeah, I'm not a
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Speaker 3: Yeah too.
Speaker 5: Suprema Supremo. Roll call Supremo Supreme.
Speaker 4: Roll my name is Fante. Yeah you know I got it?
Speaker 4: Yeah I am why. Yeah, black people ain't patriotic.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Suprema something Supreme, Suprema something Suprema.
Speaker 4: Role still can't be leave. Yeah that this year is done. Yeah,
Speaker 4: seems like yesterday. Yeah it was January one.
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Speaker 6: Supremo role called a year. Yeah, too much to say, Yeah,
Speaker 6: she's got to have it. Yeah, that's all I wanted
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Speaker 3: No Supreme roll.
Speaker 4: My name is Roy. Yeah, I'm from Alabama. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: celebrating Kwanza. Yeah, even though I don't know what quanta is.
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Speaker 4: No, I didn't like in my head it was like
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Speaker 6: I just got to have it, you know? Okay, long years,
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Speaker 4: I've first heard you from the Foxhole, but I mean
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Speaker 3: Also shout out to Conan man. He used to work.
Speaker 3: He used to give me work when nobody else would. Exactly. Yes,
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Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome one of our favorite comedians,
Speaker 4: Roy Wood Junior.
Speaker 7: Alabama's own Yeah man, so out of Alabama. I'm sorry
Speaker 7: about ot of drum Alabama College, y'all.
Speaker 3: This year white folks sorr.
Speaker 4: They ride horses to the polls, and they talked about
Speaker 4: gay people and slavery.
Speaker 6: They bring their guns.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just to a speech, Just bring the gun. I'm
Speaker 3: Roy Moore. I got a gun just in case a pistol.
Speaker 4: So Roy, Okay, So we'd be remiss if we didn't
Speaker 4: say that. Of course, we tape some episodes of Quest
Speaker 4: of Supreme rather week's of advance of us going on
Speaker 4: the air. But this particular taping we are kind of
Speaker 4: awaiting the results. Well, I don't know if we're awaiting
Speaker 4: the results of of of the well, I mean, do
Speaker 4: we kind of know how it's going to go?
Speaker 3: I mean, oh, you have hope.
Speaker 8: I got to a little bit. I got to I
Speaker 8: know a lot of black folks and Bama. I'm hoping
Speaker 8: that you know, as.
Speaker 7: The great philosopher of the game once told us, you
Speaker 7: don't have to anything's possible.
Speaker 4: If fifty Vica, I appreciate.
Speaker 3: It, hated to love it. The underdogs on the top.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we was talking outside, so you got to
Speaker 4: break it down for the audience what it is with
Speaker 4: other cats.
Speaker 7: Here's the thing I don't really like as a black person. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm the Democrat and I locked up the Klan. That's
Speaker 7: what he's running on, Like it's he ran on this
Speaker 7: platform that he was one of the people who prosecuted
Speaker 7: two of the last living Clans members who bombed the
Speaker 7: Sixteenth Street Baptist Church back in the sixties. But the
Speaker 7: truth of the matter is that it wasn't like he
Speaker 7: crusaded to you.
Speaker 3: Know, we got to reopen this case. Gut damn it.
Speaker 3: I know they ever can lock him up.
Speaker 4: No, the FBI reopened the sixteenth Street bombing, and Doug
Speaker 4: Jones was the dude at the time, Like, Yo, you're
Speaker 4: the person in the office that does this type of shit,
Speaker 4: so go prosecute this dude. And they locked the clansman
Speaker 4: up and now he's hanging his hat on that and
Speaker 4: that's fine, dude, what you do.
Speaker 3: He wasn't actively pursuing it like this was nineteenth He
Speaker 3: prosecuted this dude in like the late nineties, don't like
Speaker 3: it was the church wasn't still smoldering when you march
Speaker 3: into the damn porthouse. His nigga did it? Wh Muddy
Speaker 3: Waters came out. Probably a lot of Klansman died like
Speaker 3: two months after he got locked up.
Speaker 4: He was old, So don't and I just feel like
Speaker 4: this what I was telling you outside is that you know,
Speaker 4: as a white dude, he didn't properly crusade for black
Speaker 4: justice because they never gave him his movie. You're a
Speaker 4: white man and you get black justice, you're supposed to
Speaker 4: get your movie. He didn't get his movie. If you
Speaker 4: want to getting a movie, don't know. I don't know,
Speaker 4: Like how low does your steam have to be? If
Speaker 4: a child molester beats.
Speaker 7: You, you gotta get you gotta leave the game.
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, we got bigger fish.
Speaker 3: So you could ask Hillary that question.
Speaker 8: That's where and that's where we are if it's from
Speaker 8: this from the top down.
Speaker 6: Seven seeing everybody. That's how I started with Trump and.
Speaker 4: His rid This dude said I dated some girls that
Speaker 4: might have been teenagers, but I got their mammy's permission.
Speaker 4: He said America was good back when it was still slavery.
Speaker 4: He said being gay should be illegal. He showed up
Speaker 4: to the polls to vote on a horse. If you
Speaker 4: lose to that, dude, you have to get out of politics. Okay,
Speaker 4: so you just got to get out the game. Bro,
Speaker 4: this is not for you. I'm not trying to piggyback
Speaker 4: off of I having recently just found out my entire
Speaker 4: family comes from Alabama, I'm now like sort of taking
Speaker 4: interest in.
Speaker 3: Alabama jokes and ship.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying that, you know, before I could
Speaker 4: ignore Alabama.
Speaker 3: Okay' y'all gave us the Commodores. Who else?
Speaker 4: I mean you, No, I'm just in general. It's like,
Speaker 4: I mean, do we really as Northerners? I mean, as Northerners,
Speaker 4: we've always had this reputation of being snooty and and
Speaker 4: and above it all, sort of looking down at our
Speaker 4: Southern counterparts. But you know, only yes, I understand that
Speaker 4: we we should all the Commodore's.
Speaker 3: You're still on that.
Speaker 4: We also gave y'all Beyonce's mama, So y'all Louisiana, my mama, Alabama.
Speaker 6: My Texas knows something.
Speaker 3: Something country ground. I know that. I mean I didn't
Speaker 3: even get to that part. I mean, we was going
Speaker 3: off with new kids on the block last week. So okay, we.
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is is is there hope for Alabama?
Speaker 3: Is there hope? Yes? Yes, Like are there any parts
Speaker 3: of Alabama that seemed remotely progressive? Yes?
Speaker 7: Absolutely. So I'm from Birmingham. So Birmingham is a blue county,
Speaker 7: deep blue county in the middle of a red state.
Speaker 7: I think Montgomery's a blue county as well. Birmingham just
Speaker 7: got a new mayor, thirty six year old brother named
Speaker 7: Randall Wood Finn Madham, and this dude is all about
Speaker 7: changing everything. This brother came in and Birmingham has had
Speaker 7: black mayor since the seventies, but it's always been an
Speaker 7: older guard sixty or over seventy year over type brothers
Speaker 7: who have a different ideology. So now you have someone
Speaker 7: that's young.
Speaker 4: And the first thing he did, literally the day after
Speaker 4: he was sworn in was fire half of the old
Speaker 4: mayor staff. Like when you talk about somebody serious about
Speaker 4: bringing in new blood and new people from top to bottom,
Speaker 4: what's up man? You the janetor Yeah, I'm gonna need
Speaker 4: you to give me your mob, bro, We're gonna go on.
Speaker 4: Everybody got fired, So you have that. And then also
Speaker 4: Inham there's a Birmingham, and I would argue this for
Speaker 4: the whole I know for the state. It's a fact,
Speaker 4: and I wonder I'd love to check the numbers to
Speaker 4: see what it is nationally. But we have nine black
Speaker 4: women sitting as judges on this city and county level,
Speaker 4: which is important because it's a predominantly black city where
Speaker 4: all the drug laws getting black people locked up. So
Speaker 4: when you're a black person and you go in front
Speaker 4: of a black judge, these black women, a lot of
Speaker 4: them are taking like all of these different sentencing alternatives
Speaker 4: instead of just throwing a Negro away and locking them
Speaker 4: up and leaving them in a rock and jail. Hey,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you a second chance, but go get
Speaker 4: that high school diploma for me. Come back and see
Speaker 4: me in a year after you got that house. Hey,
Speaker 4: I will lock you up, but you know what, go
Speaker 4: to this drug rehab program treating drugs as a disease
Speaker 4: instead of just oh you hold them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: So when you have people like that doing stuff like
Speaker 4: that now, I think it's a slow crawl. And if
Speaker 4: you look at Birmingham and what it was twenty or
Speaker 4: thirty years ago, negroes wasn't getting that type of benevolence
Speaker 4: in the legal system.
Speaker 3: So it's a start. I gotta say that it was.
Speaker 4: I was rather I was surprised we did like a
Speaker 4: showen Bermingham, like maybe last year and was I mean,
Speaker 4: I was thrown off by the tree that the willows.
Speaker 4: I'm still that still scares the living message.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm hanging trees. Yeah they're still up there.
Speaker 3: But uh, it seemed a little more forward than the
Speaker 3: rest of alum.
Speaker 4: It was was overtly friendly, like to a level that
Speaker 4: I wasn't used to almost.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 7: I blame that, don't know, man, Like I'm just being
Speaker 7: it sounds like a cop out because I'm from the state,
Speaker 7: But I just blame it on how the South is
Speaker 7: portrayed more often than not in television and film, especially Alabama.
Speaker 7: More often than not, if Alabama is the focus of something,
Speaker 7: it's either some period piece from back in the day
Speaker 7: where it's Nigga Nigga Nigga and I'm a savior and
Speaker 7: you get out of town boy, or it's First forty
Speaker 7: eight like those are pretty much the only two options
Speaker 7: in terms of how Alabama's portrayed, or some Forest Gump
Speaker 7: Backwood type ship.
Speaker 3: Do you resent that. I mean because even the term Bama,
Speaker 3: like when we oh yeah, Bama is a negative every day.
Speaker 7: But I understand it because you got a dude down
Speaker 7: there who says gay people should be in jail.
Speaker 6: Oh wait, Bama is a bad thing.
Speaker 4: I didn't think, oh yeah, yeah, you're just a country.
Speaker 6: And it's like we turned the bad into the good.
Speaker 6: Sometimes you could be a bad Bama, but then.
Speaker 3: There's a good Bama. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Never knew like it was so bad. Like I wouldn't
Speaker 7: tell people I was from Alabama. I would specifically say
Speaker 7: Birmingham so that it didn't trigger the Bama in their head,
Speaker 7: Like what I mean, people, you're from Alabama.
Speaker 3: Oh you're Abama. You're right, And I can't.
Speaker 4: Get Richie's like straight to you, not saying he wouldn't
Speaker 4: say Alabama, but he said.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how we do. Man.
Speaker 7: It's it's a it's an interesting place. I just feel
Speaker 7: like they're more progressive of parts of the city, which
Speaker 7: is why it's important for me anytime I'm out and
Speaker 7: I'm doing shit that I'm screaming Alabama at the top
Speaker 7: of my lungs. Anytime I'm on television to make sure
Speaker 7: that that people know that good ship can still that
Speaker 7: there's still good shit coming out the state. It ain't
Speaker 7: just wipe my fuck on the horse.
Speaker 8: And off barness to the south though, like how Birmingham
Speaker 8: is to Alabama, Philly is to Pennsylvania, Like people don't
Speaker 8: know that is ready. I mean, and some of the
Speaker 8: largest journey has some of the largest clan population in
Speaker 8: the country.
Speaker 6: So I'm just saying that, you know.
Speaker 4: Yes, Birmingham, I was surprised. I mean I went there.
Speaker 4: We did a couple of shows there. I think we
Speaker 4: was in twenty fifteen. We did a couple of foreign
Speaker 4: change shows and afterwards I took my boys to the
Speaker 4: to the museum, museum and we went to the sixteenth
Speaker 4: the church, and that shit was just crazy just to
Speaker 4: be sitting there and to think like a bomb went off. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean that shit was literally standing in the same
Speaker 4: spot in the church. You know what's interesting though, like.
Speaker 7: I don't know where in North Carolina you all could
Speaker 7: have gone for like the civil rights museums and the
Speaker 7: history and the Rainsford So it's like Woolworth with all
Speaker 7: that the citys and all of that. So you do
Speaker 7: the class field trips and all of that stuff when
Speaker 7: you're growing up. We went to so much historical black
Speaker 7: stuff that in a way, when I grew up and
Speaker 7: I had the option of not going to a lot
Speaker 7: of that stuff, I had to break it up.
Speaker 3: Like even when like.
Speaker 4: Like I was just you know, it's just part of
Speaker 4: your it's part of your educational diet down south. Is
Speaker 4: this happened to you? This is what they did to us.
Speaker 4: Always remember never never forget it.
Speaker 3: Never never know.
Speaker 7: Like and before we moved when I was in the
Speaker 7: third grade, we lived in Memphis until the third grade.
Speaker 7: So we took a tour of Alex Haley's house and
Speaker 7: they took us to all of the civil rights spots,
Speaker 7: Lorraine Motel, the whole WAP. So I got to Birmingham.
Speaker 7: You're fed civil rights every single year. Class movie is
Speaker 7: civil rights movies. So when I became older, I was like, yo,
Speaker 7: I gotta take like I literally need a break on
Speaker 7: some PTSD type ship. I can't absorb this.
Speaker 3: So you haven't been to the have you Guysian? Have
Speaker 3: you been? Haven't been? Yeah, I gotta go. But they
Speaker 3: say it's a four hour and you leave.
Speaker 6: I was about to say, for years is real intent?
Speaker 4: You need five hours to process and you want to
Speaker 4: break it up in days.
Speaker 8: I'm just saying for the Burmah, I understand what you're
Speaker 8: saying now, Like that's the capital of civil rights. It
Speaker 8: is so many things that happened there that you might
Speaker 8: want to at the Smithsonian to one floor one day,
Speaker 8: the next day come back.
Speaker 7: So where I went before the Smithsonian, Atlanta opened up
Speaker 7: a new museum in the past year and a half
Speaker 7: and I went to that one, and that was the
Speaker 7: one where I said, all right, I'll do the Smithsonian.
Speaker 6: Mthsonian, is it? That's that's ground zero.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I mean there's there's also ways to take
Speaker 4: a break. You know, Oprah has their theater in there.
Speaker 4: You can you can.
Speaker 6: Watch you got you gotta do a guy because.
Speaker 4: For him, like I'm certain that Timothy's gonna hold it
Speaker 4: down and take him through.
Speaker 8: You know, everybody else who's listening who don't have a Timothy,
Speaker 8: I would say.
Speaker 7: But there's guys there too. And that was the old
Speaker 7: joke that I used to do. I talked about how
Speaker 7: part of the problem with the Civil Rights Museum is
Speaker 7: that there's no one there to give you a hug
Speaker 7: before you leave, so you leave man.
Speaker 8: Can I tell you the way that the Smithsonian is built?
Speaker 8: You started the bottom, which is like middle passes. Yes,
Speaker 8: and so you kind of start with a heavy weight
Speaker 8: boulder on your back and you in the basement and
Speaker 8: then it kind of it slowly gets better.
Speaker 3: But it's like the second floor is Jim Crow reconstruction.
Speaker 3: Third floor is victory if you can make it. The
Speaker 3: floor is like Obama, like Jordan.
Speaker 4: I was just guessing Jordan. Yes, and it's weird. I've
Speaker 4: been there maybe five times, but again you would have
Speaker 4: to there's you don't You won't have a complete experience
Speaker 4: there unless you spend five hours. In the beginning the
Speaker 4: slave part, you're going to be in there for at
Speaker 4: least an hour. And I know during Civil Rights you're
Speaker 4: gonna want to see they have a recreation of Mattill's funeral. Wow,
Speaker 4: they have the casket, they have the church views.
Speaker 3: You walk up, Yeah, they no, it's it's it's it's
Speaker 3: it's a line.
Speaker 4: It's like I stood in line for twenty five minutes
Speaker 4: to go past.
Speaker 3: His casket is open.
Speaker 6: And you should see what the white people come through.
Speaker 8: Like they they listen, they met, they got a little
Speaker 8: metamorphous they go through, you get to a certain floor,
Speaker 8: it's like, I'm.
Speaker 3: A little contrast. Is the Holocaust Museum like that as well?
Speaker 8: I've never steve that's when you come.
Speaker 3: In somebody saying Holocaust.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure there has to be remnants and more
Speaker 4: like the and Frank, I mean I've been to.
Speaker 3: Trip.
Speaker 6: Don't think you should compare the two. It's kind of
Speaker 6: like this.
Speaker 4: Well no, I'm just because my question is I'm just like,
Speaker 4: other are the monuments and tragedy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's deep.
Speaker 4: I mean you you've been at the Smithsonian, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like I dude, I did not know uh that for
Speaker 4: the longest uh if we had to see doctors or anything,
Speaker 4: uh veterinarians, Yeah, saw us, and.
Speaker 3: They they showed they had if there's to do denal
Speaker 3: work this black people.
Speaker 4: Right, And I didn't know that black women weren't allowed
Speaker 4: to see gecologists. So just the torture devices they had
Speaker 4: to use for you to give childbirth.
Speaker 3: It that fucked with me.
Speaker 4: So I mean by the time you get to the
Speaker 4: fourth floor and you see like j Dilla's thing and
Speaker 4: the mothership connection and all that stuff, and let's keep.
Speaker 8: It all the way from it ain't no greater tragedy
Speaker 8: in this country than what happened to black people.
Speaker 6: So it was kind of hard to compare Native.
Speaker 8: Americans continuously for the present day.
Speaker 6: Like I don't know if it's been the longer.
Speaker 4: We're just asking, we're just asking if there Yeah, there's
Speaker 4: a facility. Yeah, that's people's brief, you know, made into
Speaker 4: I won't say commercialized, but are they exploited in that way?
Speaker 9: Well, I've never been to the Holocaust Museum, but I
Speaker 9: have been to the nine to eleven Museum, and I
Speaker 9: found that to be really difficult and sort of but
Speaker 9: not not difficult in the way that you're talking about, yeah.
Speaker 6: Because you were alive then and you remember.
Speaker 9: No, I just find it to be like commercialized in
Speaker 9: a way. It was it was like a show.
Speaker 4: Taking selfish the fucking is a fucking gift shop, you
Speaker 4: know or whatever, Like you know, it's like, yeah, there
Speaker 4: is and and they're showing you know, fire department ship
Speaker 4: which is cool whatever, and you know, stuff like that
Speaker 4: for the first responders, like that theme, I guess, but
Speaker 4: like it's just it was like fucking that what a
Speaker 4: fucking like a nine to eleven key chain, you know,
Speaker 4: like you know, it's like, yeah, with the fire Department,
Speaker 4: It's like it's fucking crazy.
Speaker 7: You know what else I do sometimes like if I've
Speaker 7: decided that a Black Struggle movie, If I've decided that
Speaker 7: a Black Struggle movie is going to be too intense
Speaker 7: for me and I just can't sit in the theater,
Speaker 7: I'll fandango a ticket opening weekend and I will not go.
Speaker 7: I will sit comfortably until that ship comes on the plane.
Speaker 7: Or I can stream it somewhere and then watch it
Speaker 7: in thirty minute intervals so that when I start feeling angry,
Speaker 7: I'm halfway through it.
Speaker 6: I don't yeah, wait like Marshall neither, because I'm like,
Speaker 6: what movie?
Speaker 4: Yeahs, I've seen Marsha yet I haven't seen That's good.
Speaker 3: I saw that Marshall.
Speaker 6: Ye, I don't even know that because the end of Marshall,
Speaker 6: y'all know what the end of markin.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think you're spoiling it because it's
Speaker 3: pre Supreme Court, right.
Speaker 4: Wait, he doesn't go to ninety one.
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 8: At the end of Marshall, it's like a moment where
Speaker 8: he takes on his next case, of course, and the
Speaker 8: case is Trayvon his parents, Trayvon Martin's parents, and they're
Speaker 8: like like a period piece and they have lines and stuff,
Speaker 8: and all of a sudden you just end up crying.
Speaker 6: It's like Trayvon's parents and.
Speaker 8: The lawyers because actually they're in it and in the
Speaker 8: next case, but they're dressed in their nineteen, you know, sixties.
Speaker 6: It was awesome.
Speaker 7: Yeah, civil rights movies, man, I love it and we
Speaker 7: need them and they're essential, but it just it just
Speaker 7: like Salem was the last one that I set in
Speaker 7: the theater in its entirety. To watch the rest of them,
Speaker 7: I fandango and then I just have to eat that
Speaker 7: ship in bite sized chunks.
Speaker 4: It's like watching the snuff film, but that's not really
Speaker 4: black stroke. Get Out like three Negro humming in the
Speaker 4: middle of you know, I'm talking about that Negro Jesus
Speaker 4: a white woman. Okay, So I guess since this is
Speaker 4: our end of the year, uh, of course, get Out
Speaker 4: is one of the major miracles of cinema.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Jordan.
Speaker 4: Can I ask, though, do you think that everyone got
Speaker 4: obviously got get Out? Because there's I mean, there's different
Speaker 4: levels to watch it on. Of course, by the first week,
Speaker 4: everyone was talking about the Easter.
Speaker 3: Eggs and the hidden meanings.
Speaker 4: But I still think that that it went over a
Speaker 4: lot of people's heads, like they just saw it as
Speaker 4: a frothy horror film. It's almost to the point where
Speaker 4: I actually think that even the co stars, like I
Speaker 4: don't think that Alison truly, I didn't.
Speaker 3: Think she understands where she knew what she was getting into.
Speaker 4: Well, because I know that underneath all of that, like
Speaker 4: I mean, Jordan's just so many levels of woke, on
Speaker 4: on on on the potent of the message.
Speaker 6: And how is he with his situation too? But okayd with.
Speaker 4: His situation, So I don't know, he may he still
Speaker 4: may get out.
Speaker 3: You know what it's like to be uncomfortable in a
Speaker 3: white family's house.
Speaker 6: It's just so interesting.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm sure I.
Speaker 6: Don't. Don't get me in the bed.
Speaker 3: But I'm sorry saying you know.
Speaker 9: I've seen it a few times. I saw in the
Speaker 9: theater and then I saw it on.
Speaker 3: I saw it.
Speaker 9: I'm proud of you, Steve, But tell me, tell me
Speaker 9: what potentially I'm I'm missing.
Speaker 7: Uh, yeah, that's the origin the question. Did white people
Speaker 7: get the same question?
Speaker 3: What's what's the down under is that?
Speaker 2: Is that that.
Speaker 6: They're over it now?
Speaker 4: It was the idea of the sunken place, the idea
Speaker 4: of black bodies in controlled by white Uh yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean there was a lot of underhanded symbolism in there
Speaker 4: that I think just generally went over people's heads.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm okay, but what what specifically.
Speaker 6: What he just he just broke it down?
Speaker 3: But was that four white people?
Speaker 4: Were those parts of the film ever intended for white
Speaker 4: people to get like the like the scene where Daniel
Speaker 4: is dapping up Lakeith Stanfield and he goes for the
Speaker 4: dap and le Keith gives him the handshake, right, and
Speaker 4: he knew right then something was right right. I kind
Speaker 4: of feel like the last that get Out was almost
Speaker 4: the equivalent of the Rise of the Village People, where
Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy nine you're going the you know, they
Speaker 4: were America's favorite group.
Speaker 3: Everyone's like not.
Speaker 4: Know that this is a whole subculture we got your
Speaker 4: kids thinking about exactly. Like, That's That's what I feel
Speaker 4: like get Out represented as in the message was so potent. Well,
Speaker 4: I think it's something to that. I agree because I
Speaker 4: saw it. I saw three times. One time I saw
Speaker 4: it like we was up here. So I saw it once.
Speaker 4: The first time I saw it was at Detroit. It
Speaker 4: was in Detroit.
Speaker 3: We was on tour.
Speaker 4: Whoa, it was at a theater in Detroit. I was
Speaker 4: about to say, there's one theater in Detroit. It was
Speaker 4: the one that's out the way out, And I knew
Speaker 4: it was a black theater because all the ranch saw
Speaker 4: it was really like I knew the racial demographics already.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, all the damn ranch, all the gona said, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's some niggas in here. So I saw it there,
Speaker 4: and then I saw it in Raleigh. Me and my
Speaker 4: wife went to see it at like the theater like
Speaker 4: in our neighborhood.
Speaker 3: It was like a lot of mostly white.
Speaker 4: So the theme that was so telling every time I
Speaker 4: saw it that at the end when the police pull
Speaker 4: up or what we think is the police, every black
Speaker 4: person in the theater.
Speaker 6: Was like, oh, like that.
Speaker 4: Was the horror, Like that's the horror movie right there. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I did a bleeding white girl and the police show up. Nigga,
Speaker 4: that's horror, yo.
Speaker 6: He had a couple of those dog whistle moments.
Speaker 8: He even had a sister dog whistle moment that I remember,
Speaker 8: I said to you, you ain't catch it. When the
Speaker 8: chick that was the black chick that was already hypnotized
Speaker 8: or whatever was the grandma was in the room and
Speaker 8: he was talking to his girlfriend. He was like, she
Speaker 8: was in here, like you know, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 8: Like remember, I don't know if y'all remember. She was like,
Speaker 8: that's a thing with black women, like she.
Speaker 3: In the room.
Speaker 8: She came, yeah, when he can't mess with his phone
Speaker 8: when she messed with his phone and the and the
Speaker 8: girlfriend was like, why was.
Speaker 6: She mess with your phone? He's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 6: Why was Oh okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I get it.
Speaker 4: I can actually top you, uh on on on that
Speaker 4: Fronte I saw. First of all, it got to the
Speaker 4: point where I was obsessed with seeing the film, but
Speaker 4: more or less watching people watch the watching the right.
Speaker 4: So I think, yeah, I've never seen a film more
Speaker 4: than I've seen get Out. In movie theaters, I think
Speaker 4: I've seen like seventeen eighteen times.
Speaker 3: We were in Palm Beach in Florida. It was like watching.
Speaker 4: A whole nother film because it's literally me and a room.
Speaker 4: It was a small theater, so it was about maybe
Speaker 4: sixty chairs. I'll say forty five of them were older
Speaker 4: white people, and it was just like the complete opposite,
Speaker 4: Like they were appalled and shocked because by that point
Speaker 4: the critical claimness of the film, it became like must
Speaker 4: see movie.
Speaker 6: You know, I M see saw Somebody walk out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was watching It was like watching a whole
Speaker 4: nother film when you watched it in Palm Beach without
Speaker 4: spoiling the movie. Did those people in the theater clap
Speaker 4: at the end or frown? Oh they didn't clap at
Speaker 4: all when they were everybody the scene, the scene where
Speaker 4: the very end when the outside Yeah, right before uh
Speaker 4: rail gets out of his vehicle and uh uh Allison
Speaker 4: is in her position.
Speaker 3: Right. We already talked about the bleeding white girl earlier.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, they're like, that's the first time I heard
Speaker 4: someone express sadness for.
Speaker 3: Her, well for him. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was like, oh, like because when I saw it
Speaker 4: in I went to the Magic Theater, Harlem Harlem were cheering, right,
Speaker 4: but in Palm Beach was like like, oh god, she's
Speaker 4: about that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: Also, I will also add much for that.
Speaker 4: Well, probably this will probably make like you're very happy
Speaker 4: every time I saw the movie, every black woman, my
Speaker 4: wife include.
Speaker 3: Was like, don't trust that bitch. Don't trust that bitch.
Speaker 4: Like they knew the girl with a whole the whole time,
Speaker 4: chopping off hands. They every all the black women they
Speaker 4: knew off rip that she was a part of it.
Speaker 3: She was in on the hit.
Speaker 4: Well, I have to say that, uh, for the maybe
Speaker 4: the second year of that, movies and television have sort.
Speaker 3: Of top music. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yes, as far as entertainments concerned, yes, a thousand times. Yes,
Speaker 4: are there any Are there any other significant movies? Real
Speaker 4: Boys with three Real Boys, Yes, had three billboards. It's
Speaker 4: not a black movie.
Speaker 3: She has and that ship is hard.
Speaker 4: And sam uh uh rock Well, I tell you what
Speaker 4: pissed me off this year was not It wasn't. Jada
Speaker 4: Pinkett had a tweet storm a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 4: about this about the Golden Globe Tupac tweets. So Tiffany
Speaker 4: got snoozed for a Golden Globe and Girls Trip wasn't
Speaker 4: nominated for a Golden Globe. And not only was it
Speaker 4: not nominated, the Hollywood form press didn't even watch the
Speaker 4: fucking movie the number.
Speaker 6: Why would they?
Speaker 3: Why would because it's a black movie.
Speaker 7: But if it's the number one grossing comedy of the summer,
Speaker 7: how yeah, it beat the ship out of Rough Night.
Speaker 7: Well yeah, but I get it. It's it's a black
Speaker 7: movie and these are foreigners. And if somebody told me
Speaker 7: one time, doctor King didn't cross the ocean, so it's
Speaker 7: all the marching he did, he never crossed the ocean.
Speaker 7: So it's still a lot of risks. So they just
Speaker 7: didn't fuck with girls trip. They didn't even affect the
Speaker 7: numbers enough to go all right, maybe this is an
Speaker 7: exception to.
Speaker 3: Our new nigga movie nomination rule. That's crazy because I.
Speaker 4: Thought that Tiffany's story would have been the kind of
Speaker 4: story that they championed.
Speaker 3: Uh oh yeah, coming.
Speaker 8: Up through the it would have been if she would
Speaker 8: have did a white movie, probably if it probably would
Speaker 8: have made a difference.
Speaker 6: I've seen comedies and had a black friend.
Speaker 4: If she would have been like Jennifer Hudson in the City,
Speaker 4: like the Magical Negro that helps.
Speaker 7: The three years ago when Leslie blew the block up
Speaker 7: on s n L because it was a white show,
Speaker 7: then maybe there was more white acceptance of Leslie than
Speaker 7: Tiffany because she blew the block up out the gate
Speaker 7: on a Black productions fucked up considering how Good Girls
Speaker 7: Tripp was like, but.
Speaker 8: It was really black production, Like, it's not just that
Speaker 8: one black writers like, oh, y'all, y'all running.
Speaker 3: It was black.
Speaker 4: The essence super what is it? Essence Festival was the
Speaker 4: black one with the whole movie. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: Speaking of Golden Globe snub just want to shout out
Speaker 6: to Queen Sugar. I just want to say that too.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what I say. Everybody got snubbed, literally everyone.
Speaker 4: This is the snubbiest.
Speaker 8: Except for who was the loudest on the carpet last yo,
Speaker 8: that is Queen nominated, Lisa got nominated, and last year
Speaker 8: actress or rights the category.
Speaker 3: I want to say, I want to say in front
Speaker 3: of you.
Speaker 6: Yeah I do. I just didn't want to do it enough.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but remember last year on the red carpet, everybody but.
Speaker 3: Voting for everybody, but right, yeah, Queen Sugar. Man.
Speaker 4: I think the problem with Queen Sugar not necessarily the show,
Speaker 4: but just I think it's the fact that it's on own.
Speaker 3: I think that's why they keep shitting on it.
Speaker 6: That's true. Don't have no nominations you and.
Speaker 7: That's a quality shows with anything else gorgeous show Man,
Speaker 7: not even it's not even received, I mean love or
Speaker 7: any It's nothing. But I would argue that, and I
Speaker 7: don't know anything about contracts in Hollywood and all that ship,
Speaker 7: but I would argue that that's part of the reason
Speaker 7: why I own changed over from Tyler Perry to Will
Speaker 7: Packerd to handle production the most dramas over the next
Speaker 7: four to five years, to basically change the.
Speaker 3: Entire and the types of shows. She just sold the network.
Speaker 3: Didn't she know?
Speaker 8: She know she took a bigger cut of the network.
Speaker 3: Discovery or something always owned it.
Speaker 6: They always I thought.
Speaker 7: I think they bought a big I think there's Bill
Speaker 7: Packer and Tyler Perry, two totally different types of producers,
Speaker 7: and the type of shows that they were green light
Speaker 7: are night and day. So that may help to that
Speaker 7: problem going forward if there's other shows on the network
Speaker 7: that are more in line with what Queen Sugar is,
Speaker 7: because Queen Sugar for a long time was a anomaly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked like nothing else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because Yo, I haven't watched I have.
Speaker 3: A what do you call it?
Speaker 4: I started on iTunes, Uh, only because the church. I
Speaker 4: can kind of like relate to a lot of this
Speaker 4: fucking missing. It's within the church.
Speaker 3: It's just pastors and people stealing money back dramas you
Speaker 3: can find on own.
Speaker 4: My mother watches the haves and the have nots. I
Speaker 4: can't do it.
Speaker 3: That's another.
Speaker 4: That has and the have nots. And then he had
Speaker 4: like a comedy. It was another joint the pain, pain,
Speaker 4: more pain, but I have not is the one like
Speaker 4: my mother loves.
Speaker 6: She loves none of them touching. This is us because
Speaker 6: it was our year. God damn it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I've still had to watch this show.
Speaker 4: So on the music side, when you all see somebody
Speaker 4: get snubbed, we got snubbed. I will say that, with
Speaker 4: the exception of what's this year's Pixar film Coco Coco. Yeah,
Speaker 4: literally with the song that we did for Detroit shout
Speaker 4: out to fan Tickeolo also including this yeah with with
Speaker 4: and speaking of I should name the song it ain't fair,
Speaker 4: uh for Detroit fulfilling prophets apparently Listen now, yeah, we've
Speaker 4: literally we've been listed. And you know when they give
Speaker 4: the projections of like, you know, songs, Yeah, but then
Speaker 4: when you look at the nominations like even the Shoe
Speaker 4: win like common Song for.
Speaker 3: That didn't even get nominated. Good, Yeah that didn't get nominated.
Speaker 3: It's it was him and Day and Dyane Warren.
Speaker 6: It is so no seasoning didn't know.
Speaker 8: It's like if you don't stand for something, you gotta
Speaker 8: stand for anything possible.
Speaker 3: The guy that wrote was working with Dian Yeah. It
Speaker 3: was a load. It was a long road. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So no, but I mean he's still got it. Got
Speaker 4: his song got nominated for Grammy and the n Double
Speaker 4: a c P Award like everything. I never heard what
Speaker 4: movie was it in, just very good. I didn't even
Speaker 4: know the movie came out. So he came out, it
Speaker 4: came out. It's like they let's get this ship out
Speaker 4: for Black Panther come out. I think I ignored it
Speaker 4: because Chadwick Boseman was in it and just have him.
Speaker 3: And everybody like that was his third historical Black Girl.
Speaker 6: But Sterling Brown was in that movie as well, and
Speaker 6: he was really good. Sterling.
Speaker 4: He gives Chadwick Boseman twned actor. I just don't think
Speaker 4: he needs to play every historical.
Speaker 3: That was the one yet, and I did think that
Speaker 3: him playing third good.
Speaker 4: That was that was some some Zoe's what wasn't.
Speaker 7: Don't even do it as James Brown.
Speaker 3: I bought him ass Jackie Robinson.
Speaker 7: No, he killed those. He killed both of those. Buy
Speaker 7: him as a mythical black leader to blind black panthers. Okay,
Speaker 7: so I spread the love with that, because.
Speaker 3: Do we get mad?
Speaker 4: If you get mad, and then do you just go
Speaker 4: for awards and just do the work? I don't know
Speaker 4: full q Tip, It's like.
Speaker 3: Never let us tell me how well you know? The
Speaker 3: black Twitter was clapping back of that instantly. So it's nigga,
Speaker 3: you just jealous. No no, no, no no, I just meant that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I knew that someone was going to bring up the
Speaker 4: tribe line. I never need a statue to tell me.
Speaker 4: But I mean I get tips point. Uh what we're
Speaker 4: talking about is, uh, we're trying to get tipped back
Speaker 4: on the show too. I gotta shut up.
Speaker 3: God, we're not slandering him.
Speaker 4: I mean, basically I see where Tip was going because
Speaker 4: this is the last Tribe moment. It would have been
Speaker 4: a nice book ending if they least got nominated, like
Speaker 4: as a moment.
Speaker 3: For I thought they deserve the nomination.
Speaker 8: Just have a real Grammy moment though, for real, like this, okay,
Speaker 8: just because the organization. First of all, I'm curious as
Speaker 8: if q tip is a voting members. So many, so
Speaker 8: many hip hop artists that aren't voting members, Like people
Speaker 8: forget that this is like your whole voting situation. So
Speaker 8: it's like, you don't be mad like he's I guess
Speaker 8: he should be mad at all the other rappers.
Speaker 4: And but the thing with the Grammys, I mean, I
Speaker 4: guess like any other it's not a meritocracy.
Speaker 3: It's a campaign.
Speaker 8: Yes you got but they also have to be a
Speaker 8: voting member and a paint But.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have a point. This is the year.
Speaker 4: This year is the sea change because now we're voting online, man,
Speaker 4: And that's why that to me, that one year solidifies that.
Speaker 3: Back before this year.
Speaker 4: And in conversations with our good friend James Harris Id,
Speaker 4: I kind of figured that really the Grammys are just
Speaker 4: twenty people in a room really deciding that. And he's
Speaker 4: got the most, you know, but not quite trusting the situation.
Speaker 4: I have to say that this is the official year
Speaker 4: that the actual voting body members got a say in
Speaker 4: what is, which can be a dangerous thing because let's.
Speaker 3: Say at sponsored by rock.
Speaker 4: Nation, right, Because the thing is, if there's any time
Speaker 4: for a legacy group like the Roots to pull a
Speaker 4: jeth Row toll, like this is our time to do
Speaker 4: it where it's like, oh yeah, I like those guys,
Speaker 4: you know, twenty years and like us beating I'm just
Speaker 4: I'm giving you.
Speaker 8: Thing.
Speaker 3: You guys gonna beat Cardi B. Yeah, like you don't
Speaker 3: pity votes.
Speaker 4: Now under the old system, I definitely thought that, oh,
Speaker 4: now's our time to cake off of you know, being
Speaker 4: the familiar old name and a monkst that sort of thing.
Speaker 4: But now that this new voting system of us actually
Speaker 4: voting online, yeah, it's it's I predict this is going
Speaker 4: to be a problem because you're really going to see
Speaker 4: the the the barometer of where theote voting members are.
Speaker 6: Because I'm in Cardi B gonna win Grammy this.
Speaker 3: Year, probably it could happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the value of a Grammy is just going to.
Speaker 3: Cardi B. Is a meme to me.
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know what to do about Cardi
Speaker 8: I mean, it wasn't hit record.
Speaker 4: I mean, but if you're judging it on full body
Speaker 4: of work and album, and I don't think there is
Speaker 4: and all of that, but just that record.
Speaker 3: I was in the place it's a jam. I was
Speaker 3: in a sunken place with it. Yeah. Have you heard
Speaker 3: it on loud speakers? I've heard. No, I haven't. I've
Speaker 3: heard it in a car once. That's the only time
Speaker 3: I ever heard the song. I like you. I was
Speaker 3: proud to not have known a Bodak Yellow.
Speaker 4: I was good with it, and then one day, like again,
Speaker 4: the whole slithering Gryffin door.
Speaker 3: I just have to remember, I don't fun with hip
Speaker 3: hop at all anymore. No, I get it.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm borderlined with you. And I'm still trying to
Speaker 4: make a listen off from something I don't fuck. I'm
Speaker 4: just saying that I ain't the reallyship I'm saying backstage
Speaker 4: in the Griffin door dressing room of the Roots show,
Speaker 4: I've never seen Harry Potter either, by the way, I've
Speaker 4: never seen anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And in two weeks and the Griffin doing it was
Speaker 4: quiet as hell. But in the Slithering room it was
Speaker 4: turned city and that song became infectious.
Speaker 3: I couldn't avoid the join it.
Speaker 4: It's a jam, it's a record, and the thing is
Speaker 4: But like when always happened, what does she do next?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Some came it's a.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, we're becoming those people where we need
Speaker 4: someone young to help us. Man, I've been that nigga
Speaker 4: about ten years.
Speaker 3: Because.
Speaker 4: But is that before us? That's not what it's not
Speaker 4: is not but migos is more for me than music.
Speaker 4: That was my that was my listen. I love them
Speaker 4: nigga as a I was on the bubble about all
Speaker 4: that trap rap shup, and then I tried to write
Speaker 4: a fucking parody song, and I realized how ten fifteen
Speaker 4: years of radio I ain't never had no problem putting
Speaker 4: together take that line and make that funey and take that.
Speaker 4: It's easy to build a parody song mirroring the fucking
Speaker 4: You cannot mirror that ship. You cannot, like just even
Speaker 4: just writing a regular verse matches I.
Speaker 3: I can't do it. Well. I think it's hard to
Speaker 3: beard prescription drugs.
Speaker 4: I need to do some concerpt to slow the girl down,
Speaker 4: because the new joint is them, the Gucci gang joint,
Speaker 4: that ship.
Speaker 3: Make that yellow white God damn good game.
Speaker 4: Little Peak, now he wanted to die, Little Peak die.
Speaker 4: That's a little a little somebody. It's a white boy.
Speaker 4: It's called Gucci Gang. Oh yeah, just look it's a
Speaker 4: white dude, little little Troy, No, little Pump, little little Pump.
Speaker 3: No, I'm old. What's the name of that young boy
Speaker 3: that was the one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got Pump and Pete confused, Little Pete, Pete died.
Speaker 3: Pump is Pump is good game? Game? You know, a
Speaker 3: Guccie game coming those that one of those on the
Speaker 3: freeing about little Pump. Look, it was the first time
Speaker 3: that Boss Bields listen like rock him.
Speaker 6: Can we just stop playing trap songs in the year because.
Speaker 3: I got request This is a real song. This is
Speaker 3: a real song.
Speaker 6: Bill took off his headphones.
Speaker 3: Gucci game, your game you? Yeah, what's your head ones on?
Speaker 3: Ain't gonna hand bob men? And what the rang go?
Speaker 6: And I never heard I knew he was gonna do that.
Speaker 3: The funniest thing about this song, though, is.
Speaker 4: It has a behind the lyrics that like you can
Speaker 4: do on really ever was a fucking song that didn't
Speaker 4: need that?
Speaker 3: Ain't seventeen times?
Speaker 6: Can I hear mask off?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 6: We're not taking.
Speaker 3: Future meyl Street Ship, Don't chase no chick. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: get your point.
Speaker 4: Bill Washington proud wash Stield Bill's avoidance of trap culture
Speaker 4: is that similar to nutrition? All right, if you're trying
Speaker 4: to lose weight, if you're trying to live a better
Speaker 4: way of life, are you going to eat one hundred?
Speaker 4: Uh now laters in the morning. He's not interested in
Speaker 4: this ship doesn't mean anything to me.
Speaker 6: He's trailing your mind.
Speaker 3: I know, but you it's junk food.
Speaker 4: It's liricly, it's acoustic junk food that you partake in
Speaker 4: from time to time and it gives me diarrhea.
Speaker 3: But you can't I get it.
Speaker 7: The problem though, to that, to that perspective is fair
Speaker 7: because of how corporations of influence radio playlists.
Speaker 4: I ain't got to explain that to anybody, and how
Speaker 4: we're radio stations give you the same fifty songs every month,
Speaker 4: and they have their corporate meeting and then they add
Speaker 4: in ten more and.
Speaker 3: Then they make sure that the dumbest songs in the.
Speaker 4: World because they also control the touring. They also control
Speaker 4: the venues, and we know everybody's going to show up
Speaker 4: to see the dumb song. Dumb song sells more tickets
Speaker 4: than woke song because they think you're all idiots.
Speaker 6: Yeah good, what about Tyler the Creator. Can we just
Speaker 6: have a moment because I thought.
Speaker 3: That that record it sounds like suicidal Pharrell. I just
Speaker 3: thought it was a happier I mean happy for him.
Speaker 3: I thought it was probably the happiest.
Speaker 7: I mean for Taler. Yes, it's pretty damn happy. Yeah,
Speaker 7: but for anybody else, No, I haven't heard it. I
Speaker 7: haven't heard anything after Camp since Earl Sweatshirts album, and
Speaker 7: I think that's two years ago that.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing this album. You know, I was
Speaker 4: expecting the normal Tyler I'll crush your testicles in my
Speaker 4: teeth that sort of, and it wasn't that.
Speaker 3: It was like, do it again, give me another bar time,
Speaker 3: I'll crush your testiles my teethted women with brittle pass
Speaker 3: that style.
Speaker 4: And he made a very musical, light sounding record which
Speaker 4: shot the ship out of This is the record that
Speaker 4: I think he'll get the old heads with you like
Speaker 4: cast our ad like, this.
Speaker 3: Is the record.
Speaker 8: And to be honest, it's funny because when we interview
Speaker 8: roy Airs, it's just actually ended up being what roy
Speaker 8: Air said he was because just did not know Tyler
Speaker 8: to create his name. He knew, did I work with
Speaker 8: this young dude? And he is so talented and.
Speaker 3: He called him a piano but he said, yeah, he
Speaker 3: played the piano. They played the piano. So we're thinking,
Speaker 3: were like, okay, Robert Blast like no, no.
Speaker 4: No piano. We're just going through every jazz dude like no, no, noah.
Speaker 4: So we're like, okay, well we'll just move on. So
Speaker 4: we know you work with Tyler, creator of all the
Speaker 4: things to described Tyler created as I don't think piano
Speaker 4: player would be the Iceland is very oh that is
Speaker 4: is that?
Speaker 3: You know? That was the Jellies, the one on Vicelands,
Speaker 3: Like a, wait, how many shows his talent have just
Speaker 3: too But it's like a he wants.
Speaker 7: It's almost like a he's just traveling the world and
Speaker 7: it's I don't even want to call it Boordain because
Speaker 7: it's not fair to make that comparison. But he's experiencing
Speaker 7: something with somebody from his camp, and this person's just
Speaker 7: explained he would like a toy shopping like lear toys,
Speaker 7: how to make waffles, learn how to get served, Like
Speaker 7: it was a whole episode of him just in the
Speaker 7: fucking forest in Canada, tapping maple trees.
Speaker 4: The one he designs a go Kart and they build
Speaker 4: it for him. And then there's one where it was
Speaker 4: the one I just saw the other day. Oh, he
Speaker 4: learns how to do stop motion animation that you shouldn't.
Speaker 7: But he asked interesting questions that make you curious about
Speaker 7: it as well. So you're experiencing something through his brain.
Speaker 7: It's a good show.
Speaker 8: It is a good show the creator definitely.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay, so another notable record. Now I have my
Speaker 4: theory on it.
Speaker 3: What were our thoughts on four four four? Oh me,
Speaker 3: first Me, first Me, First first Me, first hit? It
Speaker 3: mixed that album? Holy shit, that sounds horrible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, fall you know, you know what I have to
Speaker 4: say that nevi Ja, I know that. Okay, I'm not
Speaker 4: saying my theory, but I definitely know that, especially based
Speaker 4: on Smile. My theory is that maybe they were late comers,
Speaker 4: lake comers to donuts and yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: Let's call it munchkins. They were late comers to it,
Speaker 3: and that they were trying to give you that vibe. No,
Speaker 3: it just sounded because they recorded in some of the
Speaker 3: best of studio.
Speaker 4: It sounded like it sounded like, really, this is vond
Speaker 4: this is no dis to you, bro. It sounded like
Speaker 4: an ovon p album.
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, I thought it was. It was his best
Speaker 3: album in a long time.
Speaker 6: Okay, we're gonna talk content now.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. Yeah, I know you read, you're ready.
Speaker 3: I personally I'm going to record with this. I don't believe.
Speaker 3: I don't believe Lemonade nor four four.
Speaker 6: So you think it's just conspiracy things.
Speaker 4: I think they know we want blood and we'll take it.
Speaker 4: They're gonna sell us blood. But I can see that,
Speaker 4: I guess, because my question is, how, if that really
Speaker 4: did happen, if either one of them was in was
Speaker 4: cheating on each other, how do you keep that shit
Speaker 4: of secret that I would have to kill a motherfucker?
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I mean the video Solange in the
Speaker 3: elevator beating somebody's.
Speaker 4: Right, right right, and that now that knowing Solange, I
Speaker 4: think that ship was real.
Speaker 3: That was real. That was real.
Speaker 4: There's been talk on what happened to bring that on,
Speaker 4: which was real. But I'm just saying that if you're
Speaker 4: the most famous, I mean, I got D list celebrity,
Speaker 4: me can't. I can't make motherfuckers keep secret. You're not
Speaker 4: a billionaire though, Yeah, but even then, it's like.
Speaker 3: Call but that was a whole other level.
Speaker 4: This nigga was higher massad agents and ship to do
Speaker 4: like that nigga was on some day the Jackal ship.
Speaker 4: I just don't think in the age of of of
Speaker 4: selfie culture and just the needs advertise.
Speaker 3: I know your secrets. Yeah, there's five people that know
Speaker 3: where the bodies are buried.
Speaker 4: In my life, Jay and Beyonce have never really been
Speaker 4: very public people to begin with, So why would that
Speaker 4: should be public.
Speaker 3: To begin with?
Speaker 4: Okay, do you You didn't even know they were officially
Speaker 4: married until like after the Here's.
Speaker 9: The thing though, Okay, I'm writing a book about you.
Speaker 3: When Okay, so I wouldn't deal with that alright, February
Speaker 3: two thousand and six. You're not gonna like it? What? Right? Okay?
Speaker 4: So in two thousand and six, I had the pleasure
Speaker 4: of visiting will Smith's castle, right, and a question I
Speaker 4: asked him was I was like, yo, because again, it
Speaker 4: was the most overwhelming experience I ever had in someone's house. Like,
Speaker 4: he has a stadium inside the house when he wants
Speaker 4: to play basketball, there's like a replica of the forum
Speaker 4: there and all that stuff. So it's basically like at
Speaker 4: one point I was just like, yo, with all these
Speaker 4: people in your property, Like, what is alone? Like, can
Speaker 4: you just walk around the house naked if you want
Speaker 4: to not being He's like, well, you're never alone. You
Speaker 4: just get used to it. I said, so what's being alone? Like,
Speaker 4: what's like no one's home? And he's like, oh, no
Speaker 4: one's home. He's like, that's about eighteen people. So he's
Speaker 4: never just on his own, right, I can't imagine. I
Speaker 4: know people that have signed n d A's that still
Speaker 4: yeat their mouth because they can't hold it in on.
Speaker 3: You know, I know, you know, I know.
Speaker 4: People in his organization and as organization and mad celebrities
Speaker 4: or they have signed crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But at a certain point when you're around people,
Speaker 6: and I mean not for nothing, but I'm friends with
Speaker 6: his sisters and stuff, it's like you respect them in
Speaker 6: a way where you don't do that like they keep
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know, I feel like they keep
Speaker 6: people around that well.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I know stuff that I maybe
Speaker 3: should not know me.
Speaker 6: Too, and I would never because you just respect the situation.
Speaker 4: But my thing is that if you know the line
Speaker 4: about the Minaja Twa and stuff, I'm just.
Speaker 3: Like, how are you going to pull that off?
Speaker 4: Like again, So in and looking at those old Purple
Speaker 4: Rain notes and looking at it in the Purple Rain Notes,
Speaker 4: Prince finds Brown Mark uh for being late the bus call.
Speaker 4: Like there's a thing where some memos like whatever, twenty
Speaker 4: five dollars for being three minutes, Like Brown Mark was
Speaker 4: like four minutes late to lobby call. And kind of
Speaker 4: the thought behind it was like, because Prince was such
Speaker 4: at a high level of celebrity that he can't even
Speaker 4: go in that hotel lobby like he used to during
Speaker 4: the nineteen ninety nine tour and you know, play Girl
Speaker 4: Watcher so was getting all the round. Mark was basically
Speaker 4: kicking up the Purple Rain tour because he his level
Speaker 4: celebrity wasn't so that he couldn't go in a prison
Speaker 4: right exactly. So I can't imagine, like how do you
Speaker 4: broker that deal?
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, who's.
Speaker 6: The super mega pimps?
Speaker 3: Who's the whole runner for Jason?
Speaker 6: There's got to be come on, I mean here, you
Speaker 6: must know this.
Speaker 8: There's got to be like some super millionaire pimpatient.
Speaker 7: Whole Like I won't say his name here, but I've
Speaker 7: heard stories of a famous white actor playboy who if
Speaker 7: he sees somebody in the club, do you want to fuck?
Speaker 7: He send the goon over. Yes, uh, he would like
Speaker 7: the fuck.
Speaker 6: Are you okay with Donald DiCaprio.
Speaker 3: I will not say this, confirm that yo.
Speaker 4: And so they say, yo, you just come up to
Speaker 4: the room and just the bodyguard or whoever just brings
Speaker 4: you in, shift down.
Speaker 7: He will be in in a second, and then he
Speaker 7: just walks in. We fucked, and then he leaves and
Speaker 7: you stay there and put your clothes on, You get
Speaker 7: your phone back, and then you get the paperwork though.
Speaker 4: No paper but in this age, it's like who can
Speaker 4: keep their mouth silent on that ship on.
Speaker 8: To a lot of people who think that there might
Speaker 8: be another meeting of the possibility of getting something more.
Speaker 6: It's more is.
Speaker 7: Potentially the moment you realized that you was just a
Speaker 7: hotel fuck while my bodyguard watched you get your back
Speaker 7: beat out, then the only thing left you got to
Speaker 7: profit from is the story. So then you're more likely
Speaker 7: to go and wring your mouth.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but in my mind, they get a couple of
Speaker 8: dollars in those you know, Jay Beyonce situations.
Speaker 3: That's prostitution. I don't know. I mean, I just I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't believe that's institution when you're when you're that level.
Speaker 4: I just don't believe. I can't believe that someone is
Speaker 4: that silent to not speak on the situation.
Speaker 3: I don't think Becky Becky with the blond hair would
Speaker 3: have been that question.
Speaker 8: It would be the biggest coup ever though. I mean,
Speaker 8: he's came out, and if this is all a lie.
Speaker 6: I don't believe it's the biggest coup ever I feel.
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe the Illuminati connections they can have limit.
Speaker 3: I'm I thought of that too, but I mean you
Speaker 3: got I mean, and you.
Speaker 4: Even said this before, Boss Bill, if it was a
Speaker 4: black girl that he cheated on the balls on that
Speaker 4: black woman to essentially make herself the most hated woman
Speaker 4: in America, like you slept with Beyonce's husband.
Speaker 3: You don't do that.
Speaker 8: How many women have you heard say I slept with
Speaker 8: Denzel even though we all know.
Speaker 3: But I haven't heard nobody.
Speaker 8: I haven't trying to funk with Paul Letter. I mean,
Speaker 8: just you know, the one the one to be thinking, no,
Speaker 8: I'm reading.
Speaker 6: You know, I just.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 8: But the point is nobody want to piss off Paul
Speaker 8: Letter and nobody want to be that one that said
Speaker 8: that messed up.
Speaker 3: I haven't. I personally haven't heard that, but I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 8: Just the one so not story, but I'm saying outside
Speaker 8: that you look at that man and done his business,
Speaker 8: I would believe it was the other ahead.
Speaker 7: I would believe these conspiracy This is first of all,
Speaker 7: let me just say I love a good conspiracy theory.
Speaker 7: And this is the first time I've heard the one
Speaker 7: that Eliminade four for four are incy.
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait for the record.
Speaker 4: I don't want nobody from the Illuminadi or the or
Speaker 4: the Bad Hive.
Speaker 3: To kill me. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not even listening to Pandora anyway, You're gonna
Speaker 4: hold you that.
Speaker 3: They're on title because on the place where Eliminade is,
Speaker 3: I'm just Eliminade. I'll write out, really, yeah it is.
Speaker 7: Gets you all money, get I give you Lemonade as
Speaker 7: a bunch of songwriters creating a facade. But I feel
Speaker 7: like Jay on trip or four would be a little
Speaker 7: more truthful to his life.
Speaker 3: And about his mom's truth. I think he's a smart
Speaker 3: ass motherfucker brother and did a song about it, don't
Speaker 3: you want to believe?
Speaker 4: Come on, Obama's brothers running around with Twitter account going
Speaker 4: off the chain?
Speaker 3: How come I ain't heard from Jay's brother yet because
Speaker 3: j paid him off.
Speaker 4: Is he still alive? Did he in the song he survived?
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, did he die from something? I was
Speaker 4: afraid to ask? We even got to you. But the
Speaker 4: thing about the Jay's brother thing. Jazz mentioned that in
Speaker 4: like another interview or song or something where he said
Speaker 4: that after he shot his brother, he was the first
Speaker 4: one he came to.
Speaker 3: That Jay came to Jazz, like you know.
Speaker 6: Helped me out.
Speaker 4: I think that may be true. I think the tim
Speaker 4: shooting brother, I think that happened. I always looked at
Speaker 4: music as the purest form. Jay's album to me, is
Speaker 4: the most emotionally naked he's ever been.
Speaker 3: But it ain't nothing.
Speaker 4: I've been running and dying to go see him perform.
Speaker 3: I'm not dying to watch him walk back and forth
Speaker 3: on I wish he would have presented it. He said,
Speaker 3: he's very It's true. He's not a concert album either.
Speaker 3: It's not. It's not a.
Speaker 8: Record Rose and finding it out too. I don't think
Speaker 8: it's also not the crime tickets.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like six dollars. Yeah, they were overcharged to
Speaker 3: retur they were overcharging.
Speaker 4: They were overcharging for the floor seats right and hoping
Speaker 4: that they would make up for the cheap seats everywhere else. Wow, wait,
Speaker 4: six bucks? When's the last time my contract ticket has
Speaker 4: been six bucks?
Speaker 8: Speaking of concerts at twenty seventeen, can y'all confirm or
Speaker 8: deny this that the pictures on social media of Janet
Speaker 8: and stuff were more exciting than the actual performance in itself.
Speaker 3: The show was good, Okay, I enjoyed this slow show.
Speaker 6: Well you have to.
Speaker 4: When I saw you asked what she moving slower than normal?
Speaker 6: Somebody said, I heard that she was.
Speaker 3: Friends with some haters, so light, and I.
Speaker 4: Said that fifty one year old Janet is not to
Speaker 4: the level of twenty three year old that's are you?
Speaker 4: Are you imposing some unrealistic standards on her?
Speaker 6: I just had questions.
Speaker 3: I didn't know I heard. I heard this tour was good.
Speaker 4: The tour before that, when she was all when they
Speaker 4: married up woman, she stopped grabbing dicks. That she's not
Speaker 4: doing it on this one.
Speaker 3: Why must you grab the dicks when you're on the stitch?
Speaker 3: You love my wife. I do not want to grab
Speaker 3: it any more. Dicks. Okay, I won't grab it, Oh
Speaker 3: my god, but that's what I do. I grabs no
Speaker 3: nothing anymore. It's not like Boris and Na.
Speaker 6: Say, Janny gonna be with your main eight.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed who I did, say.
Speaker 6: Jan getting back with your eight. I was just giving
Speaker 6: you a little some of that getting back to.
Speaker 3: Pre pre pre Oh how am I No? That's slipper
Speaker 3: ride you see to jump in there with. She was
Speaker 3: on tour of Jermaine jack Thought.
Speaker 6: I was like, he's tour as well. Though he still
Speaker 6: does his thing. He still does his thing, Jermaine Jackson.
Speaker 3: I'm going to stop o. Hey.
Speaker 4: We also forgot to mention I she was a guest
Speaker 4: on the show today. Uh, this is a control how
Speaker 4: we feel about side Chick diaries.
Speaker 3: She's carrying on.
Speaker 4: I had I still on my iPhone that I had
Speaker 4: it on my phone when I went over to Europe
Speaker 4: this fall, and every time one of the songs came on,
Speaker 4: I was into it until she started singing, and then
Speaker 4: I had.
Speaker 6: To skip buck damn you hard on.
Speaker 3: I like that song she did on the tonight show.
Speaker 6: What's It All?
Speaker 3: What was it called. I don't know. It has some
Speaker 3: moments that I that I.
Speaker 8: Did, like love Galore did Drawn with Travis Scott. That's
Speaker 8: like the jaw, that's the hello.
Speaker 3: R and B. I have to be like alone to
Speaker 3: absorb like I can't. It has to be from like
Speaker 3: before nineteen ninety.
Speaker 6: So there's no R and B.
Speaker 3: This I like my record, my early new edition. You
Speaker 3: don't even stuck with the all white suit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of cuts, but yeah, you're right, didn'
Speaker 4: Jim and lewis Hae Whre was the star of the
Speaker 4: story by on Home Again. Then Jerelivert produced that cut
Speaker 4: how did you like Your Love?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they.
Speaker 4: Took like half a New Office star of the story,
Speaker 4: so they weren'tetting a by Rod Sifferton.
Speaker 3: But that was my Joe.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah that think wrote to Nicholas. I didn't know
Speaker 4: that mother because the names were always together. Yeah, it
Speaker 4: hit your and the thing was but to me, I'm like, Hi,
Speaker 4: a nigga named Edwin got a nickname name Tony.
Speaker 3: Like that.
Speaker 4: Shouldn't all right, said my army. My joint was sucking
Speaker 4: my homegirl Bosco Britney Bosco. She had a she put
Speaker 4: out an EPs just called b and that ship is
Speaker 4: fucking dope. It's dope. And also Gwynn as well. I
Speaker 4: really I've been all her ship for a while. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I go crazy with this year.
Speaker 6: Maggie, that chick Rogers, that's what.
Speaker 3: My student. No, yes, Maggie, I love you. Maggie Rochester
Speaker 3: is one of my students at n y U. No,
Speaker 3: she's from Ohio. Oh, I know you're talking about, but
Speaker 3: I can't remember the gospel chick Chris.
Speaker 4: You had her on Instagram. You posted her ship on Instagram,
Speaker 4: and yeah, I can't remember. It must not have been
Speaker 4: that great.
Speaker 3: No, it's just we know that I'm having brain.
Speaker 4: I always have brain for I want to say, Crystal,
Speaker 4: she's like the gospel chick, like with the real thick harmonies.
Speaker 3: And then why are you doing that?
Speaker 4: I remember seeing a whole bunch of people tweeting the posting.
Speaker 4: I didn't because I had a whole bunch I had
Speaker 4: this ship to do.
Speaker 3: I peeped working.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just say but it was like it was
Speaker 4: like a week when everybody was posting about and then nothing.
Speaker 6: Hello, got link, you killed it? Thank you for saving me.
Speaker 3: Gold Link.
Speaker 2: Come on.
Speaker 3: Wait.
Speaker 4: I had high expectations for god Links album because I
Speaker 4: like the mixtape that he had out before this ship
Speaker 4: was great. But then I just found out that I
Speaker 4: like the production because but I think that's true for all, Like,
Speaker 4: I mean, that seems to be the case. Like when
Speaker 4: people say they're tired of hip hop, I don't think
Speaker 4: they're tired of hip hop. They're just tired of rappers. Yeah,
Speaker 4: if I never heard another rapper rap again, I will
Speaker 4: would be too soon. I'm fit and I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I say that as a rapper, I'll be niggas rap.
Speaker 4: But cruise the jam, Cruise the jam.
Speaker 6: I mean, we don't have a lot in DC. We
Speaker 6: got him and you know, and Marvin Gaye.
Speaker 3: That's it. Wait, wait, hold on. Black people don't like
Speaker 3: rap music anymore. No, black people, like they don't like
Speaker 3: rappers all black people. Yeah, this is a question of
Speaker 3: supreme exclusive. Yes, rappers don't like rapp. Not like rappers.
Speaker 6: A Black rappers don't like rappers.
Speaker 3: Like I like rap.
Speaker 7: But then if it's it's gotta be a little bit
Speaker 7: off the beaten path, Like it's got to be something
Speaker 7: that's a little harder to find, and you know, someone
Speaker 7: that you stumble upon you like there was a there
Speaker 7: was a minute for like a decade. Were the only
Speaker 7: way I got put on the new rap that wasn't
Speaker 7: caught up in the radio corporate bullshit was video games.
Speaker 7: Video games introduced me to a ship ton of new
Speaker 7: music across all genres, Like if you play Madden or Fifa,
Speaker 7: it's impossible to not discover new I was listening to
Speaker 7: the K pop fucking around with FIFA.
Speaker 3: Yo.
Speaker 4: They fucking group love out of fucking LA, this fucking
Speaker 4: group epic high, Like half they ship is in Korean.
Speaker 4: They ran and I fucking downloaded ship. I can't speak Korean,
Speaker 4: but I was like, but the hooks are in English,
Speaker 4: but the fucking verses are in Korean.
Speaker 3: I'm like cool. And then I just pulled a ship
Speaker 3: up online, like now, what the fuck was he rapping about?
Speaker 3: Let me read about it.
Speaker 7: And all the same, like in terms of like just lyrically,
Speaker 7: they're talking about the same fucking aspirations to be better,
Speaker 7: and you don't buy it as much because your Korean.
Speaker 7: I don't think he came from the gutter the same
Speaker 7: as every fucking black rapper.
Speaker 3: But it's coming to me. Uh. I actually I like
Speaker 3: Sid's album.
Speaker 6: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Why am I looking at Bill?
Speaker 6: Looking at Bill so quiet saying louder?
Speaker 3: I wasn't.
Speaker 4: I was trying to debate if it came out in
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, seventeen, that was then Bill's sipping a lot
Speaker 4: of tea right now. So insecurities with my jam on
Speaker 4: net record. That shit was dope. I like the backgrounds
Speaker 4: on that joint for what it is. It's cool, but
Speaker 4: I still think Jack Davy should be where she is,
Speaker 4: A could have been a contender, has been so close
Speaker 4: to music for so long. Changed Yes, how you even
Speaker 4: just absorb a song? Yeah, we we ruined our palace.
Speaker 3: It's like I ate too much good food for too long, well,
Speaker 3: in some good ways, in some bad ways.
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it's in the same way like
Speaker 4: if you're seeing a comic and like you see him
Speaker 4: killing it, you can appreciate him killing it, but on
Speaker 4: a deeper level.
Speaker 3: You see analyzing it exactly you analyze.
Speaker 4: So for me, when I hear a great record, I
Speaker 4: still I'm like, damn, this is dope, just you know,
Speaker 4: just instinctively I feel it.
Speaker 3: But then I'm listening like damn, how do they mix
Speaker 3: that vocal? Damn?
Speaker 4: Listen to how they did this. So it gives you
Speaker 4: a great appreciation of it. But on the other side
Speaker 4: of it, when you hear some bullshit, for me, it
Speaker 4: does the same thing. You know, you can see the tricks,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like you can see here's
Speaker 4: how they around.
Speaker 3: Here's an example.
Speaker 4: So all right, who's millennial of Okay, let's take Playboard CARDI.
Speaker 3: Okay, now, no clue, no clue that is I know
Speaker 3: who he is. Like Magnolia was like.
Speaker 4: The reaction I get when I play Playboard CARDI is Magnolia.
Speaker 4: I'll put in context twenty five years ago. It was
Speaker 4: like when you heard the first four seconds of like
Speaker 4: Jay Ruse, come clean.
Speaker 3: Magnolia. So we okay, but it's just like.
Speaker 4: But even then, it's like for me, it's like again,
Speaker 4: it's the whole effective versus good. I played it so
Speaker 4: many times, and I guess the elation that I get
Speaker 4: from when I play the joint.
Speaker 3: I mean, have I been uh, what do you call
Speaker 3: Stockingham syndrome? Brainwashed? What you want to come out of here?
Speaker 3: This in New York? My thing is like I can't
Speaker 3: tell this apart from like fifteen of the songs. All
Speaker 3: that shit sounds the same. This ain't called No, this
Speaker 3: is not milliy rock magnolia. I didn't know my soft
Speaker 3: I didn't know myself.
Speaker 6: You got a rot with your mouth opere.
Speaker 3: No, that is my first time ever hearing. I was
Speaker 3: hoping for my last time too. No, I think it's
Speaker 3: like I just don't. I don't. I can't tell the
Speaker 3: part from fifteen other songs. It sounded just like it. Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I did. So have we become our parents? Yes, y'all
Speaker 3: have it sounds that way? And what?
Speaker 4: But the thing is, all right, did our parents have
Speaker 4: a point when probably? Okay, I we need bus some them,
Speaker 4: all right?
Speaker 6: So when two live crews, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: No no, because my palate was way better than that,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 4: When the night I heard the day that I brought
Speaker 4: Nacon millions by public, getem me, it was blasting, not
Speaker 4: living bass.
Speaker 3: Heads or my stereo system in my room, my dad
Speaker 3: was like, this is this is no, this is garbage.
Speaker 3: But you can understand what you say. Am I wrong
Speaker 3: for thinking that it was a work of art?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: But but then again, the millennials after me also think
Speaker 3: it's bulls.
Speaker 4: But to me, the difference between the two generations is
Speaker 4: that there aren't When you listen to Public Enemy acoustically,
Speaker 4: there weren't twelve other Enemy of the Public Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Enemy, Liberal Rhythm, the Renegade. But no, I think, and
Speaker 3: they would get called it.
Speaker 4: The fact that you just called them a bier you
Speaker 4: get called out for How dare you even try to
Speaker 4: sound similar? Now that's rewarded. No, because like in our
Speaker 4: era of hip, it was my style is better than yours.
Speaker 4: Now the mo o is, oh I can do your
Speaker 4: style too, There's no more, there is nothing there.
Speaker 3: Originality is not really rewarded.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh I can do this, I can do
Speaker 4: an R or it's on the radio stations because they
Speaker 4: won't play anything else.
Speaker 3: They don't want to think too hard. I'm shocked.
Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't think Pandora they're great, agree with any
Speaker 4: thing too, Like with the biers like back then, I
Speaker 4: mean with somebody like Public Enemy. I mean that ship
Speaker 4: requires skill to bite that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: It does not require skill. I mean if I want
Speaker 4: to make uh the gang or whatever I mean, and
Speaker 4: those records are what they are, But that's still very
Speaker 4: easily up. They're five minute beats, and the people that
Speaker 4: make them are proud of the fact that they're five
Speaker 4: minute beats. Yeah yeah, I mean the the the upper
Speaker 4: echelon of music. Any of you guys funk with uh?
Speaker 4: Come on, see Washington's the three hour jazz album that
Speaker 4: because Russ Russy forty minutes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just put out another one. It's uh a
Speaker 3: new one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a new one. Differences something harmony different, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I listened to some of it.
Speaker 3: It's good. I fuck with it. But I really like
Speaker 3: the epic though, the three hour joint. I think I
Speaker 3: made it. Steve. Steve made them five hours, six hours.
Speaker 3: It's not just don't don't don't give me a copy?
Speaker 7: That what I what I've gained in like sitting with
Speaker 7: you all though, It's like, it's so interesting how if
Speaker 7: you're in a different prism of entertainment, like how for Bill,
Speaker 7: like music is too noisy, so you go to TV
Speaker 7: to escape. I feel like TV is too noisy, so
Speaker 7: I try to go to music.
Speaker 6: Because there's so many options that you mean, like, did
Speaker 6: you watch this watch.
Speaker 3: Already? Half ship? I gotta watch just on some research.
Speaker 4: So I'm already losing half of my attention span to
Speaker 4: there's less time alloted to even watch it that I
Speaker 4: want to enjoy, discover, and.
Speaker 6: Now you got to binge it and you can't just
Speaker 6: catch up on the one.
Speaker 3: We got the whole, which is the only advantage because
Speaker 3: then when I do get a moment, I want to
Speaker 3: see it. Give me all the punisher, let me.
Speaker 6: That's funny. I'm just on that in mind Hunter.
Speaker 3: I haven't. I haven't, I haven't checked funished yet. I'm
Speaker 3: waiting on Black Mirror.
Speaker 4: They got season, not the second season, the last season,
Speaker 4: the last one, the one from the last season, the
Speaker 4: sands you in apparel, that one, that one, That one
Speaker 4: was a good Black Mirror fucked me up because all
Speaker 4: that ship could kind of happen, all of it. It's
Speaker 4: like it's too close.
Speaker 3: Like this was the one where they were rating people
Speaker 3: that actually about to happen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, fucking Bitcoin, mister Robots, Sorry.
Speaker 3: Mister rob Robot. Mister Robot still got to get on it. Man,
Speaker 3: And you did your post on faith then I got
Speaker 3: lost into it.
Speaker 6: Yeah it's good.
Speaker 4: I enjoyed, mister Robert, But you're saying that as a
Speaker 4: person on television. You don't see how awesome television is now.
Speaker 4: I see awesome television, but there is so much awesome
Speaker 4: television that I can't get to it all that some shows,
Speaker 4: I'm just straight up like, you know what, fuck it?
Speaker 3: I give you a perfect example. I love Arrow.
Speaker 4: I ain't no real superhero procedural, ass dude. I think
Speaker 4: most superhero procedurals it's just you just fucking cash in
Speaker 4: the check and you're gonna stream it.
Speaker 3: But see that's table I'm talking to. This is c W.
Speaker 4: Arrow.
Speaker 3: C W.
Speaker 4: I sucked around and missed a season and blink an
Speaker 4: Arrow is now six seasons.
Speaker 3: And the flash spun off of the Arrow and then
Speaker 3: legends of that.
Speaker 4: We're talking literally eighty episodes of fucking television across all titles,
Speaker 4: and I just I can't fucking fuck so I'm done
Speaker 4: with Arrow.
Speaker 3: Is there gonna be like a is it gonna bubble?
Speaker 3: It's gonna burst with television because there is a lot.
Speaker 4: There back of the day, like if you missed one
Speaker 4: episode of Dallas at Dynasty, like it wasn't an end
Speaker 4: of your world. Are you saying now that we have
Speaker 4: to be super completest and watch every episode of well,
Speaker 4: because a lot of well, back in the day, the
Speaker 4: story's storylines weren't always continuous, especially with like sitcoms and
Speaker 4: ship so I'm one always continuous and that was the
Speaker 4: way we watched it was different. You had to wait
Speaker 4: week the week.
Speaker 6: Now now you don't.
Speaker 8: And now it's funny because I'm like, meanwhile, on Netflix,
Speaker 8: you gotta watch Luke Case. Then you want to watch
Speaker 8: Jessica Jones, then you want to watch The Defenders, then watch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you just go fucking I'm going to bed,
Speaker 4: Like you just just sit there, like I think there's
Speaker 4: three shows that I watch religious religiously, and then the
Speaker 4: rest of them is I'll just catch it.
Speaker 3: The other two god, well, broad City just ended? What
Speaker 3: is it? What was the other one? That's true? You
Speaker 3: watched Orange and New Black? I watched it.
Speaker 4: I stopped her the second season. Actually, I'm actually still
Speaker 4: watching Scandal, but that's all that's good network drama. I
Speaker 4: just I'm watching it because I just want to see
Speaker 4: how it ends.
Speaker 3: And this is a lot evil Olivia. I don't know
Speaker 3: if I don't know if I like it either, but
Speaker 3: I've stuck with it this long. I just that's how I.
Speaker 6: Feel that it might be the jump to Sharks season.
Speaker 3: No jumps show was seasons ago.
Speaker 4: Like, I'm amazed that they find new ways to make
Speaker 4: Stevie Wonder's song still newscandal like it. Look, I'm not
Speaker 4: trying to have Sean to Cindy the whole Illuminati after
Speaker 4: but I you know, man, the music clearance person is
Speaker 4: so for that and get away on that show? Man,
Speaker 4: It's like, I stop, how I get away with Murder?
Speaker 4: I didn't finish it was too I mean I watched.
Speaker 4: I'm not lying to you. I watched like forty shows.
Speaker 3: I don't know how. You know how people ask like,
Speaker 3: how do you have nineteen jobs? I'm amazed that.
Speaker 4: I'm actually keeping up actively with forty television shows.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you do that. I have to.
Speaker 4: Just traveling and just you know, I find time. But yeah,
Speaker 4: for some reason, I know that How to Get a
Speaker 4: Murder is quality TV. But it's just a wait, who
Speaker 4: said that?
Speaker 3: That was me?
Speaker 4: No, because I know a lot of people that are
Speaker 4: usually there into the Shonda world that aren't really into
Speaker 4: How to get Away with Murder?
Speaker 3: I never got into it.
Speaker 4: It's good there's some payoff there, but I I just
Speaker 4: think I don't have I don't have enough time for
Speaker 4: I traded. I traded in Murder for Queen Sugar and
Speaker 4: Green que Sugar Watch. I did some trade in and
Speaker 4: I watched Queen Sugar.
Speaker 3: Had to give up the numbers. I couldn't get into it,
Speaker 3: but see.
Speaker 4: That you should go go to Queen Sugar, like, give
Speaker 4: it five episodes. I think I think I got three
Speaker 4: episodes in then I stopped. If you have it, if
Speaker 4: it's a slow bill, you just like the season there?
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, the thing with the Wire. It took me
Speaker 3: like ten years to watch The Wire.
Speaker 7: You ever watched there. I've watched The Wire with someone
Speaker 7: who's watching it for the first time and I have
Speaker 7: to literally go, trust me, stick with Season two is
Speaker 7: the hardest thing season for anybody.
Speaker 6: That's the Europeans.
Speaker 4: And but that's the most important because in five that's
Speaker 4: how the don't get in the city, so you meet
Speaker 4: the Greek and the whole watch. But it's certain shows
Speaker 4: I like watching, even though I know it's junk food
Speaker 4: and I know and I can see the tricks from
Speaker 4: a mile away. The same with the fucking Audio ship.
Speaker 4: For me, my ship is Chicago Fire and lethal weapon.
Speaker 8: It is.
Speaker 3: You know what. After the first season, it was good
Speaker 3: fun basically shoot him up, catch the criminal. Whoo we
Speaker 3: almost died. Good episode critic, it's funny, it's fucking.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I can't even think of new Riggs name, but
Speaker 4: he's a fucking great agree from Alabama.
Speaker 3: Riggs name like Riggs.
Speaker 4: He don't hit it with that Danny Glover base though
Speaker 4: he ain't. He ain't Danny Glover with it. But it
Speaker 4: honors the movie and it's I ain't. It ain't gonna
Speaker 4: never get nominated for an Emmy for writing, but it
Speaker 4: is a fun, solid show. It'll be on ten fucking
Speaker 4: years as long as they want to do.
Speaker 3: I know it was still on. I didn't. It's like
Speaker 3: come out like I stopped watching Empire. Like Empire, oh dog,
Speaker 3: I left after the Prince episode. Here's the thing. I
Speaker 3: love the first episode. I love your Family.
Speaker 7: But Empire is one of those shows where if you
Speaker 7: don't because it's a twenty episode drama and it's not procedural,
Speaker 7: so if you miss three episode, it's who is this nigga?
Speaker 3: And where? Yeah, my girlfriend watches Star, so I watched.
Speaker 6: I was scared to mention it was my girlfriend watching Star.
Speaker 6: I sit on the couch.
Speaker 3: That cool. I watched it, and then it'd be three fuckers.
Speaker 3: I'll be like, who the is that? Oh? She from Empire.
Speaker 3: This is a crossover episode.
Speaker 8: Half of a New Edition movie is cast on Star
Speaker 8: and you want to like support, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I watched the Ship and I'm just like, God,
Speaker 3: damn it, I want to follow, But I got this right.
Speaker 3: Back to Arrow forty episodes.
Speaker 6: Speaking of good TV twenty seventeen New Edition.
Speaker 3: Movie, Oh I love it. It was good. The best
Speaker 3: things Happened has changed. Shout out to Barry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Here's the here's the downside to the New Edition. It
Speaker 3: has inspired a slew biopics that do not have the
Speaker 3: budget or the music clearances or the acting prowess with
Speaker 3: the talents of the people that pulled off the New
Speaker 3: Edition is on his way?
Speaker 6: What are you talking about, d H.
Speaker 3: We'll see. That's I'm excited. We'll see.
Speaker 6: So you like the TLS.
Speaker 3: You sit down with the Bobby Christina movie. When that
Speaker 3: come out, I was like, wait, there's a Bobbys Lifetime. No,
Speaker 3: it's t Yeah, I think it's somewhere.
Speaker 6: But the white though.
Speaker 3: It was the lifetime.
Speaker 6: One you like that, my girl?
Speaker 3: Which one was that?
Speaker 4: It was fine? Next time it was fine? Was it
Speaker 4: as good as the new edition? Fucking ya?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Was it as good as the new edition? Like
Speaker 3: this is?
Speaker 6: That was all? But that that was standard? Was new edition?
Speaker 3: Was new edition?
Speaker 7: Showed that there's a audience and retro the same reason
Speaker 7: we got all these retro nineties hip hop tours that
Speaker 7: are starting to bubble up and escape going back out.
Speaker 7: But I just feel like the stories need to be
Speaker 7: done properly and don't just rush me some bullshit to
Speaker 7: the screen because you know, listen, listen man. It was
Speaker 7: one of those movies I saw like I saw like
Speaker 7: all the people like trashing it, and I was like,
Speaker 7: and I walked in, like, damn, this is gonna be bad.
Speaker 3: So then I walked in my wife we saw it,
Speaker 3: and I was just we was watching, like, yo, this
Speaker 3: is because they trashed right.
Speaker 4: But but the next night I saw it was like
Speaker 4: two nights later, we was at home and straight out
Speaker 4: and came on HBO and we watched and it was
Speaker 4: just like, yeah, that was tracked. You haven't seen Trayla
Speaker 4: coming before. I mean, I hadn't seen it before, but respect,
Speaker 4: I was like, oh god, yeah, that ship was bad.
Speaker 4: It was it was the pop movie was like mister Robot,
Speaker 4: I like.
Speaker 3: Can I ask a question? Though? Oh good, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no. I was just gonna give a plug for
Speaker 3: Smith on show time. You know what everyone came for?
Speaker 4: Smells funny. Here's this step mother like, did you have
Speaker 4: single mom?
Speaker 3: Sing? Did he describe it to me as smelf? As
Speaker 3: a single one woman? Shameless? There you go? Just had.
Speaker 6: By herself?
Speaker 3: You watched I don't watch it.
Speaker 6: I watched every episode.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 6: I love to see white people in situations like that.
Speaker 4: Broke white people struggle, struggling. It's like white people of Bruceter's.
Speaker 6: It's money almost the same way about.
Speaker 8: But you know what, the fact that they put back
Speaker 8: with Shameless look like damn white ladies winning.
Speaker 3: But that was wow. Oh Steve, you love television? Do you?
Speaker 3: I mean? You know me? I used to what do
Speaker 3: you right now? I'm watching the Crown? What's yeah?
Speaker 8: And uh?
Speaker 3: I like my guilty pleasure this year was Riverdale. I
Speaker 3: thought that, oh.
Speaker 4: That's one of my forty I watched on Netflix to
Speaker 4: catch up. Yeah, what's the show. Everybody's caping for the
Speaker 4: child is just.
Speaker 3: Like, listen, I have a question about the mayor. I
Speaker 3: got one, I got okay, the mayor.
Speaker 4: I have a question about the mayor because all the
Speaker 4: ratings are off the chain. It's but again, it's like
Speaker 4: Shyraq also got.
Speaker 3: An eighty five and rotten tomatoes. That shouldn't have.
Speaker 4: Happened, right, And I almost feel like when I saw
Speaker 4: Cyrat get a eighty five then I was like, Oh,
Speaker 4: you're afraid to You're you're afraid to criticize it.
Speaker 3: So Beau, give me a ten.
Speaker 4: Let's get out of here. Have we watched I'm still sticking.
Speaker 3: To the mayor.
Speaker 4: I'm sticking to the mayor because I'm a complete its.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna finish the season, right. They got like a
Speaker 4: three have you guys episode back in? Yeah, I finish,
Speaker 4: gona have it.
Speaker 3: Have you watched it? And he's gonna have it? No? No, no,
Speaker 3: the mayor. No, no, I watched the pilot. I watched
Speaker 3: the pilot and you're not aboard. No, not really, but
Speaker 3: you know, most pilots suck. Yeah I know that.
Speaker 4: I know that, and usually to me, it was it
Speaker 4: was just the PRIMI the premises didn't really it felt
Speaker 4: real eighties. It felt like it felt like wrapping Mayor. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't want to watch it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like didn't we see that with Kwime kirk Patrick
Speaker 3: didn't have I don't think I want to see that show.
Speaker 8: The show what they took the Kelsey Grammar show off.
Speaker 8: That was a really good show. It was called The
Speaker 8: Mayor on Stars. It was I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Kelsey Grammar had another show besides Fray.
Speaker 6: It was called The Man. Yeah, he was the Mayor
Speaker 6: of Chicago. It was on Stars.
Speaker 3: The Boss. Yeah, I remember seeing that.
Speaker 7: I didn't watch It was a sinister It was like
Speaker 7: House of Cars, but like as a mayor before.
Speaker 6: House of Cars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, damn, you never watched You go deep sometimes, like
Speaker 3: these cuts are deep. The Ozarks was good too, that
Speaker 3: what's what's the deal with it? What's the deal with Like?
Speaker 3: What's it about? He only gets pulled into the dope game? Yeah,
Speaker 3: memo I couldn't like like walk White Killed.
Speaker 4: The whole sub genre of white Man goes into scary
Speaker 4: underworld with niggas like we bring yeah breaking Yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: good with.
Speaker 6: That, but it's a different industry. He's the one that
Speaker 6: looks like the money, hetches the money.
Speaker 3: It's the same. I mean he a drug dealer. Nonetheless, like.
Speaker 6: Steve, it's a good show.
Speaker 4: Since we're there, since I was such a stand for
Speaker 4: Breaking Bad, I got I'm struggling with Saul and I
Speaker 4: know everyone still it's still trending.
Speaker 3: Have you are you? Are you current on it? I'm
Speaker 3: on season two. I'm hanging on. Season two is tough.
Speaker 3: Season three is the better call? So that there's an episode?
Speaker 3: Was the episode the one you saying? Season two is
Speaker 3: like the Russian season of like That Bad.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but you're still on those lines. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: need some magic that happened season three. On season three,
Speaker 4: they start bringing you start seeing more a lot more
Speaker 4: Breaking Bad.
Speaker 3: String shows up. You know, you're actually introduced to the
Speaker 3: Saul Goodman.
Speaker 4: Character and you start seeing the how he falls into
Speaker 4: what he became and Breaking Bad and the way they
Speaker 4: wrote the art, the relationship between him and his brother.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh man, I forgot about it. That's string. That
Speaker 3: ship is hard, but you got just for that alone.
Speaker 3: You gotta watch that.
Speaker 4: I forgot what the name of the so then y'all
Speaker 4: know the one the court one court nigga, Oh god, yo.
Speaker 3: I think I'm back. My My surprise discovery this year
Speaker 3: was Gomora that ship. What's it's on? It's on? Does
Speaker 3: it come on Sundance? I think it comes on Sundance.
Speaker 3: So Gomorra is it's a it's a true story and
Speaker 3: it's based on like the crime, the Camorra crime family
Speaker 3: in Italy.
Speaker 4: So best way I can describe it, it's basically the Wire,
Speaker 4: but with no misbeats. Like so if a nigga does
Speaker 4: something in the opening and you be like damn, like
Speaker 4: this nigga deserve to die, like in the Wire, he
Speaker 4: wouldn't die to like episode nine, Gomora, that niggas dead
Speaker 4: in the next.
Speaker 3: Twenty minutes like that. Sh It's so is it a period?
Speaker 4: It takes place like in current day in Italy and so,
Speaker 4: and it's based on the book the name of the
Speaker 4: book is I think it's called It's on Sundance. But
Speaker 4: you can I think you can probably you know what
Speaker 4: it's on that flicks. The first two seasons are on
Speaker 4: Netflix and the more it's like super brutal, super violent,
Speaker 4: but like the story is just so fucking it's it's
Speaker 4: no way to beat. It's just boo boom boom bom
Speaker 4: bom bom boom, and like that shit is crazy. I
Speaker 4: watched it because it is it's subtitles, so I got
Speaker 4: into it. I was one day the guys were in
Speaker 4: my kitchen. They were doing some work in my kitchen
Speaker 4: and it was loud, noisy, so I couldn't watch nothing
Speaker 4: that I had to listen to me watch, Let me
Speaker 4: just watch. Yeah, man, Speaking of that whle, I didn't
Speaker 4: watch the latest Narcos.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. It was it was fine.
Speaker 7: I mean, we marry ourselves to the creator said that
Speaker 7: it's the story of Cocaine, not the story of Pablo.
Speaker 7: So the story of Cocaine continues beyond and to that
Speaker 7: whole point. About the British ship season three, I thought
Speaker 7: they I thought halfway through.
Speaker 3: They're gonna I see what they're doing. They said, this
Speaker 3: up it is season four. This dude, No, they fucking
Speaker 3: tied that ship up in a bow. Goddamn it.
Speaker 7: Season four is some whole new other ship that will
Speaker 7: eventually bring us up to l Chapel, like to the whole.
Speaker 3: So it's like as they follow it all. Speaking of
Speaker 3: TV shows about cocaine, did anybody watch snow Fall. Yes
Speaker 3: I did. I was kind of this one. Talk to me.
Speaker 3: It's John Singleton and he's telling the story cocaine in
Speaker 3: the eighties and how crack cocaine came to be.
Speaker 7: So that is an interesting backstory that I didn't know
Speaker 7: anything about. But it's three separate characters you're watching. You're
Speaker 7: watching three separate shows concurrently, and eventually by the finale,
Speaker 7: they show you how they all converge together.
Speaker 3: So it's one of them. You gotta stick with it.
Speaker 4: Because I was like, from gave a fu of two
Speaker 4: of the three storylines, the storylines I didn't give a
Speaker 4: fuck about.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember the three services. It was the Mexicans,
Speaker 3: the black Kid, you got the black Kid, Black.
Speaker 4: Kid, the Mexican wrestling niggas, and that's the third one,
Speaker 4: that's the nigga I give no fun about it.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, And that was when I was like, fuck you.
Speaker 3: But but it came together, didn't together.
Speaker 4: I didn't finish the season, so it was it's worth finishing.
Speaker 4: It comes together. But now let's see what season two
Speaker 4: now that we have them ultic I thought it would
Speaker 4: have been a better show if they would have just
Speaker 4: focused on the Black Kids and then see how watch
Speaker 4: it go out? You know what I'm saying, like to
Speaker 4: see Okay, you start here, but now I'm fucking with
Speaker 4: the Mexicans. Now it goes up to the c I
Speaker 4: A but trying to introduce all those stories at first,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of ship that I watched off the
Speaker 4: respect of the creators, and I go, all right, I
Speaker 4: respect your body of work. I'm gonna give you ten
Speaker 4: episodes and I'm gonna go ahead.
Speaker 10: And.
Speaker 3: Speaking of already, let's go to let's go to John's counterpart.
Speaker 4: She's got a bike, Lee, Okay, she's gotta. Now I
Speaker 4: have to say that I am torn. I'm torn. And
Speaker 4: it's like I'm at the fifty yard line and do
Speaker 4: I step to the to the right, make it fifty
Speaker 4: one forty nine or do I make it forty nine
Speaker 4: fifty one.
Speaker 3: So it's like.
Speaker 4: I've only seen two episodes, and a lot of that
Speaker 4: was mirroring the film, so I feel like I haven't
Speaker 4: seen it.
Speaker 3: You gotta.
Speaker 4: The thing is is like, do you know at the
Speaker 4: inception if you're going to like like I want to
Speaker 4: like it. So I'm already there, like all right, Spike,
Speaker 4: I want to like this. I don't think Spike Lee's
Speaker 4: method of storytelling is suited for episodic television.
Speaker 3: Okay, talk to me. That's it. That's a critique. That's
Speaker 3: it sounds like a sound what I thought it was.
Speaker 4: It's funny you said that. I kind of felt the
Speaker 4: opposite way. I thought that watching it all in one dose,
Speaker 4: I didn't do that, so you didn't. We watched it
Speaker 4: took them to the head. The thing I couldn't stop
Speaker 4: watching it. I watched that I like needed to break
Speaker 4: because it's just Spike Lee. So it's going to be
Speaker 4: a lot of in your face, over the head, you
Speaker 4: know type, you know, beating. But I can consider that
Speaker 4: like little breaks like the album covers and no, no, no,
Speaker 4: I'm talking about just like just just the way Spike
Speaker 4: Lee tells stories, like it's a lot of very obvious
Speaker 4: overt in your faces. This is me, Spike Lee. I
Speaker 4: have a message to tell you through these characters. These
Speaker 4: aren't real people. This is just me spotting my views
Speaker 4: that you you know. But that's kind of his whole
Speaker 4: complete But so that's what I'm saying. Spike Lee's method
Speaker 4: of storytelling, I don't think it's suited for we like
Speaker 4: to see, in a perfect world, how would we improve
Speaker 4: She's got to have.
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have to get some younger writers
Speaker 3: in the room and let other people direct it. He
Speaker 3: directed every episode. He didn't he directed every episode, So
Speaker 3: I liked.
Speaker 4: I like that's the thing I feel like Spike, like
Speaker 4: Spike and the camera work is such a beautiful work
Speaker 4: of art.
Speaker 3: Like I'm used to it. His his his DPS. I
Speaker 3: mean it's not really his camera, yeah, but it's still his.
Speaker 8: All the things y'all say. When Spike has already left
Speaker 8: the building. You know, we interviewed him this year, Roy, Hey,
Speaker 8: how you doing.
Speaker 3: It was before we seen something. We talked about you
Speaker 3: you talked about she hate me and in his face.
Speaker 3: Yeah and yes, yeah, like we were semi critical.
Speaker 6: Don't know we were, we were you were good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying that.
Speaker 4: Okay, So building like the album cover ideas, Yeah, I
Speaker 4: hated album as a musician.
Speaker 3: I love the idea. I just thought it was it
Speaker 3: was too distracting.
Speaker 4: And you didn't like the pedia, like super specific, like
Speaker 4: what the album cover is so blurry that you were
Speaker 4: like they didn't even use the right you like the.
Speaker 3: The straight when they compilation, I was they could have
Speaker 3: easily found like the I mean, they found every other
Speaker 3: image off of discock, so just grab you know, the
Speaker 3: twelve so I mean Bill.
Speaker 4: The first thing Bill was mad at was the fact
Speaker 4: that some of the PDFs that they used blurry or
Speaker 4: super blurry. I'm sure Netflix gave him a budget that
Speaker 4: he could have gotten account from whoever's doing you got
Speaker 4: somebody actually take the record they could have gotten too,
Speaker 4: like the Universal's B to B site and downloaded high
Speaker 4: quality images off the ship. Like this is Spike for
Speaker 4: next season that he should just have people holding someone
Speaker 4: with the car Quest Jazz video where they just hold
Speaker 4: like the.
Speaker 6: Cards or whatever, like Yo, can I ask you a question?
Speaker 3: You don't like those QT things? And Spike? Why? Bill? Why? No?
Speaker 3: It's just not it takes the viewer out of the story.
Speaker 6: Did y'all watch that, Spike? Did y'all.
Speaker 8: All were watching this? Did you feel like you needed
Speaker 8: to go back to the movie because I want to
Speaker 8: just kind of.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen the movie in a long time, and
Speaker 3: I'm scared to go back and watch. I don't want
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 8: Back to the movie because there were moments when I
Speaker 8: was like, wait a minute. I was looking at like
Speaker 8: the character Greer and I was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 8: grew was not that of naxious and kind of feminine.
Speaker 3: But he but he was kind of like he was
Speaker 3: a pretty boy.
Speaker 4: But this nigga Greer is like borderline gay, like like
Speaker 4: he could be right yea, I mean it go either way.
Speaker 3: Like I don't think he's good. I just think he'd
Speaker 3: just rather marry himself, like the narcissist original Green was
Speaker 3: a narcisst.
Speaker 4: But when it's taking in twenty seventeen, like that's narcissism,
Speaker 4: is is rewarded narcissism and social medium.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. And that's the thing too with the
Speaker 3: problem I think he's gonna have with the show. I
Speaker 3: mean I loved it. I mean I thought it was
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it. I hate it.
Speaker 4: I didn't hate it, Yeah, I enjoyed it. But I
Speaker 4: think the problem is going to be how do you
Speaker 4: make this relevant to now? Because in eighty eight it
Speaker 4: was like Noah thought of a Nola Darling was like, oh,
Speaker 4: this girl is everywhere. Now nigga, nig whole shit is rewarded. Now,
Speaker 4: that's just the way of life.
Speaker 3: And I'm not calling Nola Hope, but I'm just saying what.
Speaker 8: You call her right there, says I'm just saying that
Speaker 8: things haven't changed because she's not supposed to be.
Speaker 3: I didn't say nothing.
Speaker 4: About I still felt like I was watching uh an
Speaker 4: older conservatives view of what black feminism is. And you know,
Speaker 4: that's sort of the thing. And plus it's like with
Speaker 4: brilliant stuff like Atlanta, things competing with it, and y'all
Speaker 4: know how much I hate don Don Glover's music, but
Speaker 4: Atlanta's brilliant, and.
Speaker 3: It's like, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: It's like if I didn't see Atlanta and dear white people,
Speaker 4: and I'll you know, I still ride for Insecure.
Speaker 6: But I wrestled.
Speaker 8: You know, it's funny because I wrestled with the storyline,
Speaker 8: the part about the assault on the street, right Like,
Speaker 8: I had a moment myself where I went.
Speaker 6: He just grabbed her, what's the big deal? Why is
Speaker 6: she tripping? Why does she need to do all this stuff?
Speaker 4: I think he did that because he that's still him
Speaker 4: trying to tone from the rape scene.
Speaker 8: But I also had to, as a woman, and especially
Speaker 8: in the current climate, go, who am I to say
Speaker 8: that that's not acted right right, Like I had to
Speaker 8: have that whole moment with myself too, So I don't know,
Speaker 8: maybe when you're talking about like the way he.
Speaker 4: Kind of came over, it was kind of starling, like
Speaker 4: I probably would have had the same reaction. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: because it was it wasn't wasn't it? Well no, no, no,
Speaker 4: I'm thinking of the guy that when she was putting
Speaker 4: up the posters and came.
Speaker 6: Up by this is the guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: First, but even in having that conversation with my mother
Speaker 8: after we both watched that scene, like my mom was
Speaker 8: kind of even like, I mean, you know, we would
Speaker 8: have just fought back, we would have did it.
Speaker 6: And I was like, you know, mommy, this is what
Speaker 6: it is.
Speaker 8: Culture is starting to end, and I think we're starting
Speaker 8: to witness that, like maybe the way we used to
Speaker 8: handle things is not the way that we're going.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's going I don't think we're gonna
Speaker 3: see that with black women though.
Speaker 8: I mean, I mean if white women do it first
Speaker 8: and they say, we can say go and then you know,
Speaker 8: we'll pick out the thing and we'll you.
Speaker 3: Know, we'll go, Am I only person in here that
Speaker 3: still loves power?
Speaker 6: No, I like Power. I love.
Speaker 3: I love the ship.
Speaker 4: It's a different type of black show to me because
Speaker 4: I know that there. I feel like black shows that
Speaker 4: are ruded are connected to reality. There's more of a
Speaker 4: it's like wine and you judge it the way you
Speaker 4: do wine, where Power is just fucking whiskey. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: if it's a blacks show, Atlanta insecure, we must pontificate
Speaker 4: on this is just a fucking dope boy who prosecute.
Speaker 8: Old because he got his sister killed, because he's a
Speaker 8: dumb motherfuckeriler.
Speaker 4: No spoiler alerts, spoiler I see it, but just for
Speaker 4: our listeners out there too late now. But okay, speaking
Speaker 4: of which, can we say? Can we say that Blackish
Speaker 4: is now the official.
Speaker 3: Black bull black people bullhorn. I try to figure out
Speaker 3: what what's more cultural important?
Speaker 4: And then and then I figure and then then I
Speaker 4: figured that, oh Cosby was the first, I guess the
Speaker 4: first uh not I'll say dog whistle of see we
Speaker 4: can be civilized or that that sort of thing. It
Speaker 4: was like, oh, well, that was the some of my
Speaker 4: best friends or black show. I mean, but because I
Speaker 4: grew up watching it, it means a lot to me
Speaker 4: emotionally and We've had many a guests on the show
Speaker 4: that says that, hey, the Huxtables were my family too,
Speaker 4: so I can't just totally dismiss it. But I mean
Speaker 4: there's never been a show like Blackish that is tackled
Speaker 4: like real what it means to be black and what
Speaker 4: it's like. First of all, are only black people watching Blackish?
Speaker 4: Like is this is this a water cooler moment?
Speaker 3: It's got It's plenty of white people watching that show
Speaker 3: be on the air. Yeah, I've been, I've been watching it.
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, my kids watch Blackest, like
Speaker 3: my mom wat Yeah, my mom doesn't watch anything that
Speaker 3: isn't about Jesus, so I watch it with them.
Speaker 4: But like the thing I'm kind of starting to see
Speaker 4: in that, you know, first off, anytime a baby comes
Speaker 4: on the show, that's immediately kind of jumped struck moment.
Speaker 4: So I get kind of their name, Sam, the baby's
Speaker 4: name is Davante. Yeah, it was a whole episode about it. Okay,
Speaker 4: I missed that.
Speaker 6: I didn't because he wanted to keep it black.
Speaker 3: And keep it real black.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's like every show is kind of like
Speaker 4: Anthony Anderson is like the mouthpiece for like how you
Speaker 4: were saying, like his characters hot Spike's characters just feel
Speaker 4: like vehicles for his views and the Anderson's character it's
Speaker 4: kind of starting to feel like that. To me, it's
Speaker 4: like where he's the guy that's starting to feel too
Speaker 4: uh kind of pre common uh, Ernest, No, not proper
Speaker 4: down Earnest.
Speaker 3: It's to Ernest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, very yeah. To me,
Speaker 3: it's kind of like that.
Speaker 7: I would have shunned the cosmic comparisons early on, but
Speaker 7: then as the show has progressed, it's definitely been that,
Speaker 7: even right down to Zoe.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, y'all. Shahiti spinoff Black.
Speaker 7: Different World, Like it's to show the black college experience
Speaker 7: of what it's like to be a black I don't
Speaker 7: know what from the previews, I assume she's at a
Speaker 7: white school and then she's a black person at a
Speaker 7: white school. Otherwise she's at the nicest goddamn black college.
Speaker 8: That i've.
Speaker 3: Some of them rooms. I'm like, that ain't no black college.
Speaker 4: But even now, and you're from you find the South
Speaker 4: like me, so you know black college is now is
Speaker 4: not what it used to be. I was from the family.
Speaker 4: I was furious, you motherfuckers got old as ship brou
Speaker 4: was ninety six to oh one.
Speaker 3: So you were there when COmON got arrested for theodoran no,
Speaker 3: I miss I missed Common two years when.
Speaker 4: He his freshman year. I think he got arrested for
Speaker 4: it steal Theodore. I thought, you like he was doing the.
Speaker 3: Show you no back when that nigga was an undergrad
Speaker 3: getting lot to tried out.
Speaker 6: He got out.
Speaker 3: Well, he only went for one year.
Speaker 4: But I think dead the story about well, let Common
Speaker 4: tell I thought that was comment. I thought that was
Speaker 4: in the press already.
Speaker 3: It was. Yeah, but yeah, I like, she's got to
Speaker 3: have it before we leave.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 3: What's our verdict on season two of of Insecure? I
Speaker 3: liked it.
Speaker 7: I enjoyed it. But what annoys me about Insecure is
Speaker 7: how some people receive it. So it's the only show
Speaker 7: in which I find some of the fans of the
Speaker 7: show annoying because people can't agree that both Lisa.
Speaker 3: And Lawrence are horrible. They're both horrible, thank you they are.
Speaker 3: They've both done irredeemable ship. It's almost like all up
Speaker 3: now as a member, Lawrence time, what did you do
Speaker 3: that was irredeemable? Tsha, there you go? How is that irredeemable.
Speaker 3: Well that's break up, no official breakup, that was a
Speaker 3: pre breakup breakup.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know he didn't you know, you went
Speaker 4: to the barbecue with the you know you don't want
Speaker 4: to take seriously, that's some dirty they don't. You don't
Speaker 4: behave as a boyfriend with somebody that you know, it's
Speaker 4: just pussy. And I don't think that that was irredeemable.
Speaker 4: I think that was him just being a human being, Like,
Speaker 4: that's just human being. He left that barbecue without saying goodbye.
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, that was fun. Yeah, yeah, he come back.
Speaker 3: It was his problem is that he was he was
Speaker 3: the proverbial nice guy like he wasn't. They don't know how.
Speaker 4: It was the nice that I'm putting in quotation marks
Speaker 4: a nice guy like you don't think.
Speaker 3: Okay, he wasn't the gangster lives, He wasn't in her building.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's the only show I watched that
Speaker 3: I won't talk with people about.
Speaker 7: I just know what's gonna it's started talking to a
Speaker 7: Trump motherfuckers that I can't change your mind about how
Speaker 7: you feel about.
Speaker 3: But I think that, But I think that's the mark
Speaker 3: of a great that much I don't know what what.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you have time to watch all
Speaker 3: this fucking television? What the fuck your work? Yeah? Sometimes
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 6: Which show is insecure?
Speaker 4: The one with only for black women la time. I
Speaker 4: don't think he was irritable. I think he was just
Speaker 4: a flawed person, like East flawed. And I like the
Speaker 4: way they brought the them having that.
Speaker 3: They deserve the end.
Speaker 7: They're so flued, they deserve each other and they earned
Speaker 7: a powerful fucking soul and his brother type moment of
Speaker 7: at the end, and.
Speaker 6: It is something for a woman who has a nurture
Speaker 6: nurtured India, and that he leave and he gets a
Speaker 6: better situation. There was like a whole there's layers in that, so.
Speaker 3: You feel so you're basically saying that it wasn't ship
Speaker 3: okay because you said he went to a better situation.
Speaker 8: No, I say, I say he was going to a
Speaker 8: better situation. I was talking about his professional career and
Speaker 8: ship like time.
Speaker 3: Out because that job didn't work out.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, though, sometimes I I find problems with
Speaker 4: people that watch television that hate the characters so much
Speaker 4: that you don't acknowledge the fact that they pulled an
Speaker 4: emotional view now different. I don't spend time with people
Speaker 4: I don't like. But the thing is is that, uh wow,
Speaker 4: I mean no, no, no, There's there's some villains I
Speaker 4: cheer for, like like Power.
Speaker 3: Yeah a villain, I mean he was, but there were
Speaker 3: still you still like there were still things to like about,
Speaker 3: something redeemable in his choices. But the thing is is
Speaker 3: that there was still hold up, hold up and hold on.
Speaker 3: That's a Paul.
Speaker 10: Okay, you can understand, you can under irredeemable. Why you
Speaker 10: can understand the logic, but isn't the kid is dug.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to my family.
Speaker 4: Look, I'm just again like if like most of the
Speaker 4: characters on Power, our villain our villains, and I kind of.
Speaker 3: I didn't like it. I don't think it'd be your cup. Yeah,
Speaker 3: already know it's he's a great actor. But that's the snake.
Speaker 3: Most rappers are rappers are. What I'm saying is that.
Speaker 4: I mean I can see if they pulled no emotions
Speaker 4: out of you, like say, uh no, I get what
Speaker 4: you're saying. Yeah, okay, say Jeff from Curby your enthusiasm,
Speaker 4: like he doesn't pull any rage out of me?
Speaker 3: Or I can't watch it's too uncomfortable.
Speaker 6: Oh, I love this season.
Speaker 3: I can't watch it ever I've seen it. I can't
Speaker 3: watch it. It's uncomfortable, uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: And loveby enthusiast, uncomfortable, like I watched the ship that
Speaker 4: Larry gets himself FROMTOHI late, I mean, but have to
Speaker 4: turn away.
Speaker 3: I can't watch it. Well, I was given a hypothetical thing.
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is that it is.
Speaker 4: If you hate the characters so much, doesn't that mean
Speaker 4: that they did a good job at drawing you in?
Speaker 4: Maybe it means they did too good of a job.
Speaker 4: But like I said, you're still watching it, not anymore,
Speaker 4: you're not watching watch season three. No, I don't care.
Speaker 4: I don't care anymore. I'm still rhynd large.
Speaker 3: They get a season to fix it. If you didn't
Speaker 3: like it, that's always I gave him season two. That
Speaker 3: was it. Season two is season one? You're talking about
Speaker 3: Laurence Fishburn. No, we're done with so to that point
Speaker 3: quest I did.
Speaker 4: That's where like, wait side question before you make your point, Okay,
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna ask you, yes, you're representing all white people. Great,
Speaker 4: with the exception of the Cosby Show. Is the general
Speaker 4: feeling for black shows that are on television? And I
Speaker 4: know you're gonna be like, I don't watch the only
Speaker 4: watch three shows. But is the general feeling like with
Speaker 4: movies and black shows and black television whatever, black movies that,
Speaker 4: oh well, that's not for me.
Speaker 3: I don't you know. Do you see how television? Do
Speaker 3: you watch Fresh off the Boat? Yes? I do. I
Speaker 3: didn't watch First Off the Boat?
Speaker 6: Actually want to hear that answer?
Speaker 3: No? No, And I don't mean like to put you on.
Speaker 3: Do you feel that shows are just like this not
Speaker 3: gonna relate to you? So I'm coold with it.
Speaker 9: I guess it depends on the on the show, show,
Speaker 9: on the quality of the show, you know, like, because
Speaker 9: the thing is there's some I was tuning in back
Speaker 9: in the day to good times in the Jefferson's as
Speaker 9: much as you were Black show.
Speaker 3: Now, But I mean, I don't watch any Have you
Speaker 3: ever watched Blackish? No?
Speaker 4: No, I haven't watched The Cosby Show. Yeah, it is
Speaker 4: probably more important.
Speaker 6: Don't do that, don't do that, don't do that, don't
Speaker 6: do that, do that, don't do that.
Speaker 8: It wouldn't be no blackist if it wasent for no
Speaker 8: Cosby Show, So how could it be more important?
Speaker 6: I don't understand.
Speaker 4: That's what he was crazy, is that you have to
Speaker 4: like literally jump twenty years from one to the next
Speaker 4: and maybe you stop off at Martin for free seasons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the whitest show.
Speaker 6: But when it comes to good jobs though, I mean,
Speaker 6: he was the elevator operator at the.
Speaker 3: End of the day. Okay, I'm not trying to say
Speaker 3: that sentence. But they're.
Speaker 9: I don't know, it's like, what's it seems like they're trying,
Speaker 9: Like I haven't seen a full episode, but from clips
Speaker 9: I've seen, it seems like they're trying too hard to
Speaker 9: be the New Cosby Show or the Cosby Show of today.
Speaker 9: Like it just seems like very transparent in that way,
Speaker 9: like Okay, we're going to try and get across this message.
Speaker 3: We're gonna try and you know, like it's very message message.
Speaker 6: You know that should be bombed. No, they make cartoons
Speaker 6: and stuff.
Speaker 4: We really know what Juneteenth was. If it weren't for
Speaker 4: that episode, we would know what Juneteenth was.
Speaker 3: No, it was. No. I can applaud what they're doing,
Speaker 3: and I mean, and I still again, it's a too earnest.
Speaker 3: It feels like it needs to be.
Speaker 4: Though maybe it needs to be. It's too earnest for us.
Speaker 4: Everything on that show isn't for us. It's pulling back
Speaker 4: the cursions.
Speaker 6: Wait.
Speaker 4: But the postpartum depression episode was a good example of
Speaker 4: you know something that I learned, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 4: I don't think she I never thought the day that
Speaker 4: Tracy Ellen's character was going to go off on Jennifer
Speaker 4: Jennifer's character and deal with postpartum depression and what I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that a lot of.
Speaker 4: I find a lot with with with there's a lot
Speaker 4: of our secrets that we're afraid to let America.
Speaker 3: But what America know about what.
Speaker 7: I appreciate about Blackish as a program. And I don't
Speaker 7: know if they set out to do this every year
Speaker 7: when they break all the stories, but every episode.
Speaker 4: Isn't black any black blackness and black dog, black Afro
Speaker 4: pick black. Like there's some episodes where it's some very
Speaker 4: benign shit, it's just dressed for a holiday park, and
Speaker 4: then the next episode is the nod where he's trying
Speaker 4: to teach Junior how to nod it other black people.
Speaker 4: And it's subtle, but it's explained in a way where
Speaker 4: I think it's digestible for But I guess my bigger
Speaker 4: point is that, you know, for me, when critically acclaim
Speaker 4: ship comes out, like I'm looking at rotten tomatoes, I'm
Speaker 4: you know, I want to see what the most critically
Speaker 4: claimed shit is. But I almost feel like with white
Speaker 4: people sometimes it's almost like, well, they don't want to
Speaker 4: know about.
Speaker 6: They want to qualities, they don't want to know.
Speaker 4: I mean, That's what I'm saying, what's going on. But
Speaker 4: I mean, but we can say the same thing about that.
Speaker 4: Like for me, it's like it's certain white ship. It's
Speaker 4: just too white for me.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but we still know the different difference between that is.
Speaker 8: But we are very well burst in the white world.
Speaker 8: But that's because we have to be there, right, But
Speaker 8: that's regardless, we're burst.
Speaker 9: So I'm just saying, like they, what other show besides Blackish,
Speaker 9: you know, are there is an example of what you're
Speaker 9: talking about.
Speaker 7: I would say it's not a sitcom. It's unscripted but
Speaker 7: hood adjacent on Comedy Central with James Davis. So brother,
Speaker 7: it's a half hour in scripted show where he comes
Speaker 7: down and explaining to a particular concept like today, I'm
Speaker 7: gonna show you how black people fuck with golf. And
Speaker 7: so then he goes to a golf course in Inglewood
Speaker 7: and shows this young black golf prodigy who you probably
Speaker 7: would have never met in any other capacity, and then
Speaker 7: he talks to black men who fuck with golf and
Speaker 7: he just explains it because of Tiger Woods.
Speaker 4: Look at all of this shit that has happened. And
Speaker 4: if you read the reviews on Hood to Jason White
Speaker 4: people who wrote reviews of that show when it first premiered,
Speaker 4: it was all from a place of being.
Speaker 3: Voyeuristic about black culture. And I think that's part of
Speaker 3: what Blackish does for that viewership on ABC, because you
Speaker 3: can't sell no hardcore straight up on apologetic black man
Speaker 3: like I would love to see and we'll never know,
Speaker 3: but I would love to have seen what the pitch
Speaker 3: was for Insecure for a network. And I don't know
Speaker 3: where Easter Ray took the show before it landed on HBO,
Speaker 3: but I would just be curreus. I would love to
Speaker 3: just see some of them girls. You could be like,
Speaker 3: were just hanging out black girls, black girls. You know
Speaker 3: it's better, But how did these shows? You know?
Speaker 9: I brought up Good Times, Samford and Son, anything from
Speaker 9: the Times the muscle of normally okay. But my point
Speaker 9: is like, certainly that was a way for white people
Speaker 9: to see into the black world, So like, how are
Speaker 9: these shows even original?
Speaker 8: We didn't get to tell those stories as much. We
Speaker 8: were just acting in those stories. Sometimes they weren't our voice.
Speaker 3: Good Times.
Speaker 9: It sounds like there's a question mark what you're saying,
Speaker 9: because Good Times addressed like all the but I'm just.
Speaker 6: Saying at times we weren't that the helm of writing
Speaker 6: those things.
Speaker 4: So the difference is that now we're getting to tell
Speaker 4: our stories. That's that's just saying that's the difference.
Speaker 3: But I want to know. But it's like, so like
Speaker 3: if you see show like black, is it like it's
Speaker 3: for me?
Speaker 9: Or is it is that more blackish, more potent in
Speaker 9: showing us these things? Then I feel like, I mean,
Speaker 9: for God's sake, yeah, I think this is a different time.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 8: In my in my in my black communications class in college,
Speaker 8: we discussed like JJ and the the hypocrisy of like yeah,
Speaker 8: there's yeah, so yes, it is very different forty years
Speaker 8: ago and the way blacks were portraying the stories were told.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying no.
Speaker 3: Flavor.
Speaker 4: Flavor was needed for a public enemy to be more accepted.
Speaker 4: That's kind of role was in good times, Like the
Speaker 4: message was still.
Speaker 3: The sneaky.
Speaker 4: You weren't expecting you, but JJ was the distraction that
Speaker 4: pulled you in and then you learned the less.
Speaker 3: Well this is J like this. Yeah, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I forgot. Somebody told me he charges comedy clubs extra. Yeah,
Speaker 3: say dynamite.
Speaker 4: We wanted him to come on to say dynamite on
Speaker 4: the tonight show, and I believe he charges.
Speaker 3: I think it's rates fifty thousand dollars. Just say no
Speaker 3: one ever, Yeah, no one? Yeah, I mean why not?
Speaker 6: You do get paid for us? Get ready to I
Speaker 6: can't even finish it because I'm scared. I get soon.
Speaker 3: You're caping for JJ. But uh you know Colter, Yeah forgot,
Speaker 3: never hold on, that's really a thing. Google. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 3: google that couple's photo.
Speaker 6: Forgot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, all right, we were gonna go
Speaker 3: in a circle. I forgot to tell about Jossy that story.
Speaker 3: Oh we have a story.
Speaker 7: It's a quick, simple you got time for jo all right,
Speaker 7: So bookmark whatever you're closing with. So we're talking about
Speaker 7: Jodasy earlier, and this is like the first time I
Speaker 7: ever saw what I consider real celebrity was Jodasy. Like
Speaker 7: I've never seen like fucking celebrity. And it's also why
Speaker 7: I feel like there haven't been a lot of like
Speaker 7: these black as many black entertainers getting caught up in
Speaker 7: the bullshit. And maybe it's just black women keep secrets
Speaker 7: or they just cut your ass out for grabbing.
Speaker 6: What is the jo.
Speaker 4: So I'm doing a comedy show in Valdosta, Georgia, and
Speaker 4: I'm doing a comedy show, comedy show Valdosta v A
Speaker 4: l d o s t A home of the Valdosta
Speaker 4: State University Glaziers.
Speaker 3: It's a city Augusta, where R. E. M. Is from.
Speaker 7: So we're sitting out front waiting for the club promoter
Speaker 7: to come pick us up, and limo pulls up and
Speaker 7: it's like twenty gorgeous women in the lobby and the
Speaker 7: limo pulls up, they all stand and they all come
Speaker 7: out into the little, you know, the little patio area
Speaker 7: in front of the hotel and me and the other
Speaker 7: comedian we're just watching this shit unfold.
Speaker 4: And some fucking sharp promoter. This is all going back
Speaker 4: to the to the whole wrangler. Who's the whole wrangler?
Speaker 4: So this dude comes up, he looks all the women
Speaker 4: up and down, and he just goes you you you
Speaker 4: it picks like six women and walks him into the limo.
Speaker 4: The other women just sit there kind of sad, but
Speaker 4: they don't leave, and I'm like, why don't you leave?
Speaker 4: You didn't get chosen.
Speaker 6: They get tagged in for later.
Speaker 3: So to that point, wow, how do you know this?
Speaker 6: Like, so we're watching something, So we're sitting there.
Speaker 3: Wait, can't plate Jonesy, why are you tell the story?
Speaker 4: So we're sitting there and these gorgeous women and I've
Speaker 4: just never seen a ship like this before.
Speaker 3: I'm like twenty too.
Speaker 7: And they walk into the fucking limo and through the
Speaker 7: lobby comes Casey and Jojo just all these niggas, diet
Speaker 7: shirt unbuttoned just for you know how I'm.
Speaker 3: R and B niggas.
Speaker 4: No chest yeah bird Joe at all, he did push
Speaker 4: a shirt un button and and they come walking through
Speaker 4: the lobby and just on some black man shit. They
Speaker 4: see me in at the community, go, what's going on?
Speaker 3: Fellas?
Speaker 4: We go what's up man? Yeah, yeah, things they getting
Speaker 4: the limo. The whole wrangler dude before he closes the door,
Speaker 4: leans his head inside the limo and goes, alright, ladies,
Speaker 4: just so y'all know, we all adults and we're gonna
Speaker 4: get into some adult shit in this limousine. If you
Speaker 4: ain't about no adult shit. Now it's the time to
Speaker 4: leave the limousine. And you see the girls that's waiting
Speaker 4: on the bench all take a half step to the
Speaker 4: limo waiting for one of them chicks to get out.
Speaker 4: Nobody fucking moved in the limo.
Speaker 3: Oh shit.
Speaker 4: And the fucking promoter whod wrangling nigga gets to the limo,
Speaker 4: closes the door, looks over at me and Henry kob
Speaker 4: and sitting on the bench, and just goes, one day, boys,
Speaker 4: one day.
Speaker 3: It just rolls up to yo, and immediately I have
Speaker 3: to go tell fifty dollars worth the jokes at a
Speaker 3: fucking pizza bar. Look, can we can we just we?
Speaker 3: Steve wants to go home? Can we? We always about
Speaker 3: to go around the table? Do something.
Speaker 6: Gave up on that up?
Speaker 3: So I want to go home?
Speaker 4: Tell us one great thing that happened in twenty seventeen, Memories, music, TV, whatever,
Speaker 4: Just this was a shitty year.
Speaker 6: It was a shitty year.
Speaker 3: What very? What nice? What was your cat video?
Speaker 8: Don't try to play me on what I'm gonna say,
Speaker 8: but I'm gonna just say this. It is real pop culture.
Speaker 8: Like it was a shitty year. But at least I
Speaker 8: got Sterling K.
Speaker 6: Brown.
Speaker 3: This is us.
Speaker 6: That's how I feel because.
Speaker 3: Okay, that was your cat video.
Speaker 4: Now I would like to assume what your answer was, Fante,
Speaker 4: but I will ask you who was your highlight of
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: My light twenty seventeen, it was getting married. Man.
Speaker 4: Okay, what I'm saying now, what was your real answer? Okay,
Speaker 4: my real answer was Goodmora Season two, Nigga, Nigga, I'm
Speaker 4: not watching that. No, no, no, seriously, the way you
Speaker 4: describing uh, like she's got to have it in comparison
Speaker 4: to Atlanta and how it feels kind of Gomora is
Speaker 4: like that for the wire, Like you watched Gomora and
Speaker 4: then you look at the wire like, yeah, nigga, these
Speaker 4: young boys about to run your ass off the court.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like that I'm starting. I take that.
Speaker 3: I don't take that silim and and it's on Netflix.
Speaker 6: I feel like I should explain.
Speaker 3: But this is us, This is saving NBC.
Speaker 6: This, this is us in all his emotion speeches and
Speaker 6: and and being a strong black man with a strong
Speaker 6: black wife that both work on the same show together.
Speaker 6: And then his wife Collecchi that faith.
Speaker 3: He's married to the woman.
Speaker 8: He's married to the woman who plays kind of like, uh,
Speaker 8: the woman who took on him as a little kid
Speaker 8: on the show.
Speaker 3: And this is in real life.
Speaker 6: In real life, that's when he thinks her all the time.
Speaker 6: I would like to think, my beautiful black meant his
Speaker 6: wife on the show. I love her wife.
Speaker 3: He didn't have a good year, man, he didn't. We
Speaker 3: just skipped over the that was all the sexual.
Speaker 4: So that's the whole other show. So all right, Bill,
Speaker 4: best thing that happened? Yeah, anything I got okay. I
Speaker 4: moved out away from my cokehead alcoholic roommate and his
Speaker 4: weirdo friend.
Speaker 3: Damn that nig coke and nigga. How you do a
Speaker 3: stimulant and a depressant? He turned away? Was that even
Speaker 3: your stuff missing, no surprise. I need it for the rent.
Speaker 4: For though, like the two years I lived in that apartment.
Speaker 4: That was partially the reason why I hardly ever left.
Speaker 3: WHOA protect your ship? Damn. I mean there was my
Speaker 3: TV in the living room, my Mac media up there.
Speaker 3: You should have locked that ship up like a Motel six.
Speaker 3: But that love Colin on the back of the TV. Well,
Speaker 3: you can't take the co acxive cable y sue. That
Speaker 3: was the best thing to happening this year.
Speaker 9: I had a tough summer with the sciatica, but I'm
Speaker 9: doing good with the diabetes.
Speaker 3: Let's leave it at that. Damn. You know what's gonna be,
Speaker 3: sugar Steve Bill's not here Bill Sherman Center. So I
Speaker 3: think that's why.
Speaker 4: Scrolling through my photos because Apple, this album ll show
Speaker 4: you the moment you zoom out to like the year
Speaker 4: and your pictures of your you were like, oh you were.
Speaker 4: I was, That's what I should have been doing.
Speaker 3: Knee jerk.
Speaker 7: Starting to this is gonna sound fucked up, like I'm
Speaker 7: a horrible father, And I don't want you to think.
Speaker 4: I'm a horrible fither uh. Leaning into fatherhood a little more.
Speaker 4: He's nineteen months now, twelve.
Speaker 7: Right right now that he's fifteen, I figured, yeah, I
Speaker 7: mean that's a noise box. Yeah, and so this year
Speaker 7: he's like doing bills and ship and I'm like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 7: I can get with this ship.
Speaker 3: Motherfucker, repeated me. Yeah he's starting to get a personality. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I caught him in the pot. Well, like he was
Speaker 7: in the kitchen and pulled a pot out the cabin
Speaker 7: and had a spoon. It was like pretending to stir.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I want to cook Okay, So yeah,
Speaker 3: I'd say that on some life ship like that was
Speaker 3: like dope, and like that's like having a kid is
Speaker 3: weird because it makes you focus more.
Speaker 7: Like I have less time now as a human being,
Speaker 7: but I'm more productive than I've ever been. And I
Speaker 7: don't know how that balances out. It's the whole quest
Speaker 7: love thirty job things.
Speaker 4: But yeah, because I realize you don't realize how much
Speaker 4: time you had until you have a kid, like less
Speaker 4: you like.
Speaker 3: Man, I got a I was just fucking around all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 6: No more.
Speaker 3: You know what I did that was amazing. I cleaned
Speaker 3: up motherfucking shop, clean up shot like five people. Yes, well.
Speaker 6: Right now, I'm I mean.
Speaker 4: You have to sometimes, no, I mean a spring clean
Speaker 4: the fuckery out of your life.
Speaker 3: I did that on my birthday. You gotta do that?
Speaker 4: Wait, why are you looking all depressed? Like well, your
Speaker 4: gripes are legit?
Speaker 6: Somebody losing their job to be the high.
Speaker 4: Even two of them aren't on payroll. It's just like
Speaker 4: I literally cut people off, decided that I have done
Speaker 4: with this. Yeah, you want me to be happy, right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Cutting people off was like the greatest thing I ever
Speaker 4: ever learned how to do. I think I might have
Speaker 4: gotten too addicted to it.
Speaker 3: Is one of them, of course, Okay, yeah, edit edit, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I'm just that was my Oh nice one.
Speaker 6: I don't know what.
Speaker 7: How do you all firings? I got fired over Twitter?
Speaker 7: Oh wait, you got fired over I found out over
Speaker 7: Twitter that I was fired.
Speaker 3: What what was the job? Radio?
Speaker 7: Radio is one of the coldest firing They just fucking
Speaker 7: one day. You just get a call, Yeah, don't come here,
Speaker 7: no more? Like what yeah, just don't come here.
Speaker 8: You want to see through room in front of everybody?
Speaker 8: Is they going to get breakfast in the morning?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I got I woke up to like twenty text messages
Speaker 7: talking about hey man, are you okay?
Speaker 3: What's going on? I get on Twitter?
Speaker 4: Trip on Twitter that morning and as we love Roy,
Speaker 4: we always miss We're gonna miss him and like somewhere
Speaker 4: in the bottom of the toller, No, this was terrestrial.
Speaker 7: This is ninety five seven. If you just google Roy
Speaker 7: with Junior fire, like the article is still there. I'm
Speaker 7: still reading the Birmingham News like.
Speaker 3: That morning on Twitter. I'm getting ready to get up,
Speaker 3: go to work, brush my teeth and I go, what
Speaker 3: the oh, I ain't got no job? All right, well,
Speaker 3: I guess I'm moving back to La Yo.
Speaker 6: Can I tell you the last the last radio job
Speaker 6: I got fired from. They got us.
Speaker 8: They was like, yo, we having a staff meeting, right,
Speaker 8: so everybody come to the staff meeting.
Speaker 6: Ready?
Speaker 3: Do you already know?
Speaker 6: You know envelopes?
Speaker 8: So we switching signals and changing the and you know
Speaker 8: it's a little bit of separate because it was a
Speaker 8: black on radio.
Speaker 3: Of course radio.
Speaker 7: The coldest man I fired to do this year over
Speaker 7: email and I've I've been told that I was an
Speaker 7: asshole for it.
Speaker 4: You know what that whole all right, y'all believe that
Speaker 4: whole face to face thing, dumping, dumping or firing, like, okay,
Speaker 4: do you believe in that whole like face to face
Speaker 4: it depends on how much time was invested in the
Speaker 4: will you but do you really respect it? It depends
Speaker 4: on how much time was invested in the over eight years.
Speaker 4: But they live in another city so that I could
Speaker 4: have done it's by phone. But my feelings as I
Speaker 4: started making the decision to fire this person was, no,
Speaker 4: You've had this entire time to get better and you
Speaker 4: did not. So the totality of our relationship has you've
Speaker 4: been you half asking it to me. That's more egregious emailing. Yes, yes,
Speaker 4: we workshop the relationship and therapy and all of that ship.
Speaker 4: And then when it came time to do it, I
Speaker 4: was like, man, fuck it, I ain't gonna waste some
Speaker 4: more time on this ship because I know if I
Speaker 4: call you it's gonna be a whole nother all that.
Speaker 3: Man, I mean, just send this email, clicks in, make
Speaker 3: it clean, and keep it moving.
Speaker 4: Wow, this has been an incredible, lengthy, lengthy two part
Speaker 4: Uh no, that's probably just one part. You're gonna serve
Speaker 4: it up straight. Yeah, ain't nobody gonna make it through this?
Speaker 4: They didn't skip ahead now it ain't it ain't twenty
Speaker 4: sixteen out the dope a little bit Jesus Christ. Please,
Speaker 4: let's cut it, well, everybody, let's cut it. Let's let's
Speaker 4: let's have let's just say that, uh you know, let's
Speaker 4: let's be happy that and grateful that we're still here
Speaker 4: and alive and yeah yeah man. And one last thing, sorry,
Speaker 4: before we leave, can we attempt to name everybody that
Speaker 4: was on the show in twenty seventeen to thank you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just just to see what we can, just to
Speaker 3: see what we can do, ready, just.
Speaker 4: To recapitulate, capitulate, just to see if we can. Jimmy Jam,
Speaker 4: Jimmy Jam, Baby, Babby Face, The Emotions, Carmichael Saita, Garrett
Speaker 4: Roy roy As, Chris Rock and the Soul Training Search,
Speaker 4: Q Tip, Q.
Speaker 3: Tip Prodigy, Man in Peace, who else? Damn Peterson, Chiles Peterson,
Speaker 3: I can't even name one.
Speaker 4: God just Blaze, DJ Premier, Heather Hunter, Donny Simpson, Booty Collins.
Speaker 6: Sheila Stephen Hill.
Speaker 3: Where are you?
Speaker 4: I talked to him, I saw him the other He's
Speaker 4: doing stuff. He's still has juice. I'm getting, uh, not
Speaker 4: that y'all care, so, yes, exactly, Okay, Yeah, I'm getting
Speaker 4: the rest of my SO episodes. You know, my dad
Speaker 4: had a chance to buy into that buying the soldier
Speaker 4: like in the early days, like my dad hired Don
Speaker 4: Cornelia in Chicago.
Speaker 6: What oh my god.
Speaker 3: We never got to the story.
Speaker 4: All right, so you're gonna have to come back so
Speaker 4: we could have the official royal Wood episode because you
Speaker 4: were just here recap.
Speaker 3: This was fun, just kicken. I know that, But this
Speaker 3: was our year in recap episode, not the roy Wood.
Speaker 3: You saved my daddy's civil rights work ship for later.
Speaker 3: I tell you that I did that twelve years and
Speaker 3: I and I have questions about doing prink calls professionally,
Speaker 3: like how does that wait to the roy Wood junior
Speaker 3: in ten years?
Speaker 6: It's like two three services?
Speaker 3: Wow, but they fake him. I was a lunatic. You
Speaker 3: were doing was legit?
Speaker 7: Okay, you were a master? You were And I kept
Speaker 7: the wrolls in case anybody wanted ballenge me. I got
Speaker 7: like ten minute fucking any prank I've done, I got
Speaker 7: a ten minute fucking master for anybody who dare say
Speaker 7: that my ship was fake. Like, that's the one thing
Speaker 7: I'll get. It's the only thing I get. Question people questions, comments, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a lot of affection. Were you the one
Speaker 4: that did the roaches and chicken called that's a classic, man,
Speaker 4: come on, that's that was based on some real ship.
Speaker 4: A lady went to a hood seafood spot in Birmingham
Speaker 4: and she found roaches fried into the breading of the chicken.
Speaker 4: And I called her as the supervisor of the restaurant said,
Speaker 4: you line, because that roaches roaches ain't even that color.
Speaker 3: I wrote all that, Oh man, that it was funny.
Speaker 3: Look at Nigga'm trying to be professional about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we gotta talk. We got to talk about that
Speaker 4: because I'll tell you how pranks connected with hip hop
Speaker 4: and how like so many fucking Southern mixtape niggas.
Speaker 3: Yes, really helped me.
Speaker 4: Out anyway, Uh we didn't think shout out Robin Thid
Speaker 4: as well, haven't anyway, And also Michael McDonald want to
Speaker 4: give a shout out to Alex and Tyler, who are
Speaker 4: our fearless editors who helped make the show.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Slits and James l are you and
Speaker 3: King Jane Yes anyway, Uh we will see you guys
Speaker 3: next year.
Speaker 4: And uh thank you Pan Like literally, we're not taking
Speaker 4: any time off. We'll be back next week. Well, I
Speaker 4: don't know if I'll be here.
Speaker 3: But you know, Jason, take that episode god willing.
Speaker 4: If I'm Bryan, yeah, any anyone else, I'm just doing
Speaker 4: credit g well.
Speaker 3: I mean we already hit up all those people. Just
Speaker 3: forgot to mention Alex and Tyler. East Coast ain't got
Speaker 3: love for doctor dres New Dog. You robbed your eyes
Speaker 3: when I said.
Speaker 8: East Coast because I'm thinking the Barns. But yes, okay, yeah, anyway, anyway, all.
Speaker 4: Right, yes, this is has been a two lengthy episode
Speaker 4: of of course, I forgot the name of my show,
Speaker 4: Quest Love Supreme.
Speaker 3: We will see you on the next go round.
Speaker 4: Hollo us up on Instagram and check out the mixed
Speaker 4: Supremium because we put our favorite songs of the year.
Speaker 3: Let's go, let's stop. What are we not professional? Anyway,
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. We'll see you
Speaker 3: on the next go round.
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