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Speaker 1: Worrying. Today's episode contains spoilers for the Action Pack. Fifth

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Speaker 1: episode of Night at the Seven Kingdoms be warned. Hello,

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Speaker 1: it was Jason Concepcion and on Meersday night and welcome

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Speaker 1: back to extra vision of the podcast. We dive deep

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Speaker 1: into your favorite shows, movies, comics of pop culture company

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Speaker 1: from my podcast Where We're going you three Episode.

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Speaker 2: Three plus news. Guys, I hope that you are ready

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Speaker 2: because some terrible news. Friendship is over with cozy fantasy.

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Speaker 3: So now brutal, violent fantasy BRUI is our new best friend. Fighting, launching, stabbing,

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Speaker 3: eye gouging, bleeding, shield smashing, boat cutting.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna see it. Also, come with your hearts prepared

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Speaker 2: and your strongest i an armor on because it is

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Speaker 2: a brutal episode. And then of course we will discuss

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Speaker 2: it and send them. Less from the Seven Kingdoms is

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Speaker 2: always given our little feedback. And maybe we're leaving, get

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Speaker 2: a call in, who knows. We'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 1: We open with Baylor coaches speech giving some last second advice.

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Speaker 1: You know they will fight brutally to protect their the prince.

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Speaker 1: They stay together. Keep on your horse as long as

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Speaker 1: you can, Duncan and Raymond or like yacking off the

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Speaker 1: side of their horses and people are rookies. Baylor is like,

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Speaker 1: don't worry about them. Now with the King's Guard guys,

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Speaker 1: don't worry about them. I'm gonna go in there. Body

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Speaker 1: block them. They're both will keep them from harming me.

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Speaker 1: And Sir Reesling the Mad Night One Eyed Night is like,

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Speaker 1: is that necessary? Honorable? He's like, the gods will let

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Speaker 1: us go to folks. They surely did, they.

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Speaker 2: Sure do They surely will let you know, Jason, let

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Speaker 2: me ask you a question here from it now that

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Speaker 2: sports gambling is legal in California, online sports gambling probably

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Speaker 2: legal in westros too, Where is the fixer? I feel

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Speaker 2: like this would have been a great job for Lord

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Speaker 2: Ashford's fixer to come and try and fix again. Why

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Speaker 2: do you think he wasn't fixing because I feel like

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Speaker 2: this would be an easy one to kind of make

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Speaker 2: some underdog bets on and win. Or maybe he didn't

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Speaker 2: need to fix, He just made some bets on Duncan.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Let me correct you. As of February twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: state regulated sports gambling not legal in California.

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Speaker 2: But I love that for me, but.

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Speaker 1: There's a million ways around it. It's like only functionally

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Speaker 1: not illegal.

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Speaker 2: But what it's like online sports betting has allowed.

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Speaker 1: Us to get around Yeah, to continue, I think this

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Speaker 1: was Here's the thing about successful sports gambling. In my view,

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Speaker 1: a story that my colleague Brian former colleague Brian Phillips

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Speaker 1: did some years back a website we used to work at,

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Speaker 1: and he kind of pulled the cover off this web

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Speaker 1: of sports gamblers and where a lot of the action

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Speaker 1: is is in like third tier tennis, you know, second

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Speaker 1: or third level domestic soccer reads stuff that's people are

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Speaker 1: There's not a lot of eyes on it, but it's

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Speaker 1: up there for action at various sports books. And because

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Speaker 1: it's lower money ostensibly lower stakes, and less eyes on it,

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Speaker 1: it's a much more conducive environment to make fix being in.

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Speaker 1: I think there's way too much interest in the first

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Speaker 2: Everyone's watching. If you're small, yeah, you're small. You put

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Speaker 2: a little extra money on Dounk in my opinion because

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Speaker 2: you know there's going to be good. But you're right,

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Speaker 2: a little bit too much heat on this one, Jason.

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Speaker 2: That's why you're in charge of the illegal sports and westerns.

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Speaker 1: I'm not me. So Lionel makes a little comment about

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Speaker 1: Baylor being his mother's favorite son and how you gotta

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Speaker 1: and Baylor has just doesn't answer. He puts on his

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Speaker 2: In this great, great, great bit of foreshadowing here, of

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Speaker 2: hedge night, you know, and we get to see how

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Speaker 1: Duncan Uh says goodbye to Egg in his own particular

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Speaker 1: his young royal squire and ye each other, which is wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love that as well, great energy post pink Panther.

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Speaker 2: The Grammys like, let's embark up memoir when he just goes,

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Speaker 2: I'll hunt you down with dogs, and instead of saying

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Speaker 2: what dogs, he just goes It's like he's the dog.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love that. I love these two together.

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Speaker 1: There is the sisters come out, they do a pregame

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Speaker 1: invocation seven and then they I'll begin.

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Speaker 2: Pre game invacation.

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Speaker 1: All the Jousters jump forward on their steeds, but Dunk

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Speaker 2: Oh got terrabol. Look, bro, you gotta go. Even Daryn

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Speaker 2: knows Darren said you've got to go in looking strong

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Speaker 1: Got it just in there.

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Speaker 2: It sets Dunkop for basically how the whole fight will

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Speaker 2: go Aka and him taking a fucking batter ring.

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Speaker 1: it starts early. That first lance pass ends up with

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Speaker 1: boom we flash back, oh Uestros. Some fifteen years prior.

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Speaker 1: It is the wake of the Battle of the Red

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Speaker 1: in favor of the ruling Targerian family. The loyalists scavengers

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Speaker 1: idea geographically of where the Red Grass Field is in

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Speaker 1: reference to King's Landing. The scavengers find a night still

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Speaker 1: we realize is young Dunk tries to do him a

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Speaker 1: mercy by asphyxiating him with his hands over his mouth,

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Speaker 1: this is merciful. But Dunk has some steel in him

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Speaker 2: I was just to like his throat or something.

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Speaker 2: He was like, sorry, just gonna choke you for two minutes.

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Speaker 1: I was like, wow, Dunk, you are not the innocent

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Speaker 1: knafe that I thought you were here capable of doing this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he felt bad about it, but it was crazy.

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Speaker 1: His friend arrives and he says, no, no, no, don't

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Speaker 1: they're talking about well, battles over us and that nice

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Speaker 2: literally in this episode nothing is ever over written ever finishes.

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Speaker 1: We go to Flea Bottom and it's a tangle of

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Speaker 1: are waylaid by a sinister group of of bandits, and

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Speaker 1: the lead bandit says, hey, what's in the what's in

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Speaker 1: the bag? Oh it's rats, some lovely rats. And the

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Speaker 1: Then let's see the rats. And before Duncan can uh,

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Speaker 2: I love Rafe. I get it. She's living in the moment.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't ye where the next meal is coming from.

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Speaker 2: She's doing what she can. But Alistair is not the

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Speaker 1: Can we talk briefly about Dunk and his his his

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Speaker 1: romantic interests very very much a Western ros se. I

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Speaker 2: He's got the type. Okay, I love it. I don't

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Speaker 2: love it for the women not going so far?

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Speaker 1: So uh, they go Raife and Duncan go off to

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Speaker 1: They sell their lude to a local blacksmith who doesn't

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Speaker 1: want any of the blackfire gear because it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's treasonous and it's very dangerous to sell. But nevertheless

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Speaker 1: they now have enough money to leave. Rafe says Duncan

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Speaker 1: is worried that the Free Cities will be the same

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Speaker 1: different place. And Rafe's like, don't worry, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, what do you care? Like, let's just

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Speaker 2: Like you're going to try something different. And Dunk's like, well,

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Speaker 2: if you're going, I'm going yes.

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Speaker 1: Dunk then says, you know, I know it's silly. This

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Speaker 1: because I know that it's been many, many years in it.

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Speaker 1: my mom won't be able to find me if she

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, now, Sir Arland was essentially fighting three

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Speaker 2: he did clearly teach dunking off of that real night ship.

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Speaker 1: He came into that alley like the Tasmanian devil, whirling

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Speaker 1: Well, duncan follows Arlen to his horse, and then everything

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Speaker 1: Dunk wakes up. It's the middle of the fight. He

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Speaker 2: I know I love that too. I also think something

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Speaker 2: Game of Thrones is this is like an eye on

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Speaker 2: And you also see here that this notion of kind

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Speaker 1: Dunk is getting absolutely lashed from pillar to post by

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Speaker 1: Aria everywhere, who is beating the fucking shit out of him,

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Speaker 1: stabbing him with blades. Uh.

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Speaker 2: You see the difference between like the arm of the

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Speaker 1: Arian digs is blade into Dunk's legs and through his hand,

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Speaker 1: Arian closes for the kill. At one point, the two

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Speaker 4: Like a hole.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 1: The issue is Dunk has like four hundred HP like you.

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Speaker 1: It's like a boss a little bang. He's a didn't brandalized.

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Speaker 2: He was fighting the boss at the end of Copy's dreamline.

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Speaker 2: Who gets the big Hama Like yeah, no, gang past

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a video game correct, two stage boss

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Speaker 2: Great cool, Jason, great cool.

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Speaker 1: So you know Arians chopping, chopping, chop and chopping, trying

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Speaker 1: from the earlier hit, takes off his helmet, which is

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Speaker 1: absolutely foolish. But the thing is Arian is gas. Now

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Speaker 1: He's gassed out from like beating the ship out of

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Speaker 2: Yes, he just l carteroid to read like pumping that

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Speaker 2: blood out that we love to see it and you

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Speaker 2: could hear make bar but Dunks boys stop him from

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Speaker 1: Duncan gets a hold of Arion and you know, Duncan's exhausted,

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Speaker 1: and they grapple for a little bit, but then Dunk

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Speaker 1: It's over. No, that's merely stage one of the boss fight,

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Speaker 1: as anybody knows, as anyone who's.

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Speaker 2: Fought the ninth Sisto in a fucking Jedi Survivor game. No,

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Speaker 2: she never really dies, No, he never dies.

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Speaker 1: Duncan respawns with a new health bar and gets top

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Speaker 1: mount on Arion, and oh sorry, foking batters him battering

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Speaker 1: battery arian very quietly. Are you hm hmm? So Dunk

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Speaker 2: No, what do you mean? What do you mean? We know?

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Speaker 1: There's no replay there.

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Speaker 2: Dunk did a great job here because I think what

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Speaker 2: he's also seeing is that everyone else is still in

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Speaker 2: It's really good.

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Speaker 1: So h Dunk wins. It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Everything's good. Nothing bad could have happened.

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Speaker 1: Nothing bad. Hey, it's great. We go to the immediate

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Speaker 1: aftermath where Steely Paid is there and Dunk's boys and

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Speaker 1: they're you know, they're getting his arm. You know, Raymond

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Speaker 4: Happened?

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Speaker 1: Dunk looks like like ground beef.

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Speaker 2: Like he do look like Hamburger helpod Definitely, he looks very,

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Speaker 1: They're cutting his armor off of him so they can

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Speaker 1: tend to him. Apparently Beesbury died immediately. First charge rip

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Speaker 1: And he's like, hey, we want to know how you do.

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Speaker 1: And Dunk is like, my my grace. He yeah, falls

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Speaker 1: at his feet. I am your man. Whatever you want,

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Speaker 1: whatever you know, like, I will follow you whatever you need.

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Speaker 1: I am the guy. And Baylor's like, you know what

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Speaker 1: we need good men? The realm needs good men. This

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Speaker 1: is great, everything's gonna walk out. Everything's greatly or squire.

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Speaker 2: Happily ever off the back to the cozy time. Nothing

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Speaker 2: bad could happen. I'm feeling great, you're feeling great.

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Speaker 1: The Wise, the Wise Crown Prince who everybody loves you.

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Speaker 1: The honorable Knight who's just making this is a new ear.

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Speaker 1: We're bringing sunlight and changed to the seven Kingdoms.

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Speaker 2: It's a day union.

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Speaker 1: Ramon, take off my helmet. It's a little tight. I'm

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: Raven takes the helmet off and my guy's portion of

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Speaker 1: my guy's brains just fall out the back of a

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Speaker 1: cracked egg time at Dent in the back of his cranium.

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Speaker 2: Way old egg, and soldier, you could be dipping that

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Speaker 2: in that ain't just fallen right out, Like oh that

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Speaker 2: just like, maybe they're gonna change it, like maybe this

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Speaker 2: he seems fine. I was like, And then I was like,

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Speaker 2: just go yep and it just full right out. And

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Speaker 1: AI AI the tun Gary Jason, what does this mean

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Speaker 1: for succession? Well, you know, George has certain he has

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Speaker 1: certain tropes, and one of his most classic tropes is

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Speaker 1: is going to take the throne or rule at some

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00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: point and they're so good, they're so fair, they're so

432
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: wise and fair and just, and you just know there's

433
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: no way that this can be an interesting universe if

434
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 1: this guy takes takes the throat, and so we must

435
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: do away with him. And here it happens, and what

436
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: is the outcome of this Well, first of all, succession

437
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: passes to his little brother macar meaning that the innkeeper

438
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: slash fortune teller is was correct because Egg is now

439
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: in the direct line of succession. There's brothers ahead of him,

440
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: but like Darren is too drunk to do it. Arion,

441
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: We don't like that guy. Seems like everything could happen,

442
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: and it's now absolutely plausible that Egg will one day

443
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: become king. We go to Black and it's the end

444
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: of the episode.

445
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: She really was onto some shit too, because the tog,

446
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: you know, the dragon falling on Dunk, but Dunk still surviving.

447
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: It really does read as if I know, like when

448
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 2: we spoke to us, she's as he's inn a shia

449
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: from the history of wester Ro's podcast. We did talk

450
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 2: about how it could maybe mean something else, but I

451
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: think right here we see that whatever happens, she was

452
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 2: really in a oats feeling. Our oats that day about

453
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: the twenty because it seems like she was correct.

454
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and then we'll come back,

455
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: and we're at wow, wowser. You know, it's been a

456
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: show kind of light and I think, wonderfully light on action.

457
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: I haven't missed it at all, especially in a half

458
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: hour run times. But when they when they went to it,

459
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: they really did it. It was chaotic, it was brutal,

460
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: it was violent.

461
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 4: Again.

462
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: I love, I love the dedication to creating something that

463
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: is both visually compelling but also totally confusing and chaotic

464
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: where you're not even sure who's very like you know,

465
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: when when Dunk, when they take Dunk over to the

466
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: stables or wherever to cut his armor off, like he

467
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: has he has to get update, He's like, has no

468
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: idea what happened Beesbury? We don't know what happened to

469
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: that guy? We were not unaware.

470
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: Do you have no idea?

471
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: And that was so well done. And then to see

472
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 1: Dunk's you know, a lot, a lot comes together in

473
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: our understanding of Dunk when you see how he came

474
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: up and where he came from. Yeah, what are your

475
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: thoughts about this? Oh?

476
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 2: I just I definitely wasn't expecting them to do such

477
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: a heavy flashback episode, but it totally worked for me.

478
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: It was definitely I love everyone knows a story about kids,

479
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: so I kind of loved this kind of kid's eye

480
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: view of Wests. It reminded me of the you know,

481
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: early seasons where we had Aria living as a secret boy,

482
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: you know, trying to work her way up. I loved that.

483
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: I loved to meet Rafe. I was very sad about

484
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: her unfortunate demise. But I also think that something this

485
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: show is doing really well is showing the realities of

486
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: the lives of the small folk. And I think that

487
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: one of the realities, sadly, is that the small folk's

488
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: life has seen as completely disposable. You can get away

489
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: with just murdering a girl in the street. It's not

490
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,239
Speaker 2: a problem, no matter. Yeah, and I think like that

491
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: heartbreaking reminder is very Game of Thrones, But it's also,

492
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: like you said, Jason, it's part of George's storytelling legacy

493
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: because even when he introduces someone that we root for,

494
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: Denares and obviously very controversial with the TV show, we

495
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: don't know how he's gonna choose to end it. But

496
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: generally That's another great example of these characters that he

497
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: introduces us to who we want to root for them,

498
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: who we want to hope can do better, but who

499
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: eventually end up becoming you know, corrupted or cursed or crazy,

500
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: or we can never get the true goodness at the

501
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: heart of West Roast because then the story becomes uninteresting.

502
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just I just thought it brought all

503
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: of those things together. I'm also really interested to see

504
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: how it lands with people, because hardcore Game of Thrones

505
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: fans have been loving this show and the tonal difference,

506
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: and so of people who've never really been into Game

507
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: of Thrones. So I really want to see how kind

508
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: of a peak Game of Thrones episode hits. I think

509
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: it's going to be a big, emotional kind of success

510
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: because it really does connect us with Dunk even more

511
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: and put us even more on his side. Plus it

512
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: does one of my favorite things that we talk about

513
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: a lot with every kind of TV show, the Game

514
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: of Thrones is really well established for is the big

515
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: action episode and then the emotional fallout episode. So I'm

516
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: really excited for that because I think all the best

517
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: Game of Thrones season enders have been the big battle

518
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: and then the calm after the storm, what really happens?

519
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: How do we survive? And I know that that was

520
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: for some people not something they loved about House of

521
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: the Dragon kind of how that the fallout was focused on.

522
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: But I love those moments. So now we've had this big, emotional,

523
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: crazy episode, and especially as book readers, we know what

524
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna get to see at least a smidgeon of,

525
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: and I'm really there's some certain conversations. I just cannot

526
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: wait to see how they put them to screen. And

527
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: I want to see more Duncan Egg. That's my main thing.

528
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: They've been apart for a little while. Now let's get

529
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: that Duncan Egg time back together. Let's see how they

530
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: deal with fall out, because obviously that's not something IgG wanted.

531
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: Egg wanted Arian to die, but he never considered that

532
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: baylaor the one good Targarian, the uncle he trusts so

533
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: he can be himself around who he can say I

534
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: wish Arian was dead around would die?

535
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: This is I mean, this is going to be news

536
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: that shocks the entire country.

537
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: Right, That's what I'm saying, Like on a level of

538
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: cultural cataclysm, ravens are getting sent everywhere.

539
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: This is this is a big, big deal. What do

540
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: you mean the crown Prince died in a once in

541
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: a century trial of seven over what? Over the honor

542
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: of a hedge night his word versus Prince of the

543
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: blood Aryan bright flame Targarian. It's it's instance and has

544
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: the blow that has who struck the blow? It hasn't

545
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: been talked about, yes, but oh so we'll save that

546
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: as a spoiler. But and that will be a big

547
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: question too, is well who actually hit him?

548
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: And Kevin, do you still like you can't be angry

549
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: with that personal punish them, but the Tagarians are still

550
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: going to want to know who it is, you know

551
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: what I mean?

552
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: Like it's it's one of those things I mean, this

553
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: is This is obviously a tragedy on various levels, though

554
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: a triumph for Dunk, and one way to read this

555
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: is a triumph for Macar who is will now So

556
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: there will surely be a lot of talking about that

557
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: particular part of it. And I would imagine if you

558
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 1: lived in West Ros and you heard this news, the

559
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: whole Aryan Dunk part of it would get lost in

560
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: the That's not what anybody would be talking about.

561
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: No, And also that's what I'm wondering is like, what

562
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: are the stories gonna say, like, because obviously you can

563
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: see in this fight why Dunk becomes duncan Tol, why

564
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: there are stories for him to even be told to

565
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: brand in Game of Thrones, and you can see why

566
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: he is like, like Jason said, he's basically like infinite HP.

567
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: Like this man can just keep taking hits and hang up.

568
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: He's like a real giant, right. It looks great, so bo.

569
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: At the same time, obviously it's gonna take a while

570
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: for that side of the story to get out, because

571
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: the big part of this story is, Hey, one of

572
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: those dragon Blood families just fucking died, and it was

573
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: the one who was kind of okay, so what do

574
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: we do now, you know, which is very interesting.

575
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that flashback for a moment because it

576
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: was so instructive about oh who who Dunk is? And

577
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: again I found myself really it is a kind he's

578
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: trying to do this fallen night of kindness. But I

579
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, man, I can't believe this

580
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: kid has to steal in his heart to do something

581
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: like that.

582
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: The things you've seen in fleebottom.

583
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 1: Clear to make you able to do something, and then

584
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: of course, you know later Raife is like, oh, you've

585
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: never seen somebody die before. He was like yeah, but

586
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: not like that, which is like wow, imagine being you know,

587
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: fifteen here like he having seen multiple people die, to

588
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: the point where asphyxiating someone, as you said, over the

589
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: course of what would probably be like a.

590
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: Minute too, is not some air tight situation there with.

591
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 1: Your bare hands is a kind that's a kind thing

592
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: that you could do for somebody. It's it's shocking how

593
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: brutal this world, you know.

594
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes What is really interesting to me as well is

595
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: I actually think that this adds more to the argument

596
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: that Sir Alan could have actually nighted Dunk, because I

597
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: think that when we see a lot of Dunk's flashbacks,

598
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: it's more about his own guilt and his own failings

599
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: and the things he hasn't done. And I'm sure that

600
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: because he wasn't able to save Ray, because he wasn't

601
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: able to act honorably, and because he wasn't allowed to

602
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 2: do these things, and because he has killed people, probably

603
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: I think there's probably a lot of reasons why he

604
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: doesn't feel worthy to be a knight. And I actually

605
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: think that while this backstory does add to the layer

606
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: of he'll do anything he can to survive, so you

607
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: know he could be lying about it. I also like

608
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: the notion that actually, like maybe he did, and it's

609
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: all these other things that he's done that he feels

610
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: ashamed of or he doesn't feel worthy enough to be

611
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 2: a knight because of the brutality and kind of lawlessness

612
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: that you have to survive to get out of Flea Bottom.

613
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: I just thought it was so interesting, Yeah, because it

614
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: was very It tells us a lot about what Dunk's

615
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: been through and who he is. But also that could

616
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: be an origin story for a villain, right, Like a

617
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: lot of times we see a tragic story or a

618
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: vengeful person, their family member is killed, they're on a

619
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: hunt for avengers. But Dunk has become a very generous, loving,

620
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: kind person, a compassionate person in nature. I think that's

621
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: so interesting and I really want to see more of

622
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 2: Dunk's post as we continue on this journey with him

623
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: an Egg and see kind of what the choices were

624
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: that helped shape that too. And I do think one

625
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 2: of them is all in handing him that war and saying, okay, well,

626
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: if you're going to follow me, like, just get up,

627
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: let's let's make this worth my while.

628
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: And even before that, I think the thing that made

629
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: Dunk follow Arlen in the first place is that when

630
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: he appeared through that door of what was probably a

631
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 1: wine shop. Yeah, exactly to save Dunk's life, he cried

632
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: out in the name of the Mother released that boy,

633
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: which Dunk must have taken as a sign from his mother,

634
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: you know that in his moment of dire need, of

635
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: ultimate need. You know, he's been desperate before, but this

636
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: is the moment where it's it's going to be over,

637
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: like it's done, and here comes a savior with the

638
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: word mother on his lips, and it must have seemed

639
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: to him like an answer, And it makes complete sense

640
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: then that he would follow that he would follow, uh,

641
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: Sir Arlene. After that, that's such a great read.

642
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we get a lot here as well

643
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: about that kind of notion of being parentless in West ROAs,

644
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: like it's horrendous, like you are literally just left to

645
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: fight for yourself. We meet these children scavenging from dead bodies.

646
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: This is a level of kind of poverty and hardship

647
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: that we've only seen momentarily and rarely from the viewpoint

648
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: of the people experiencing it. So I'm very interested that

649
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: once again they're bringing us back down to that flea

650
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 2: bottom level and making us consider kind of how people

651
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: get to become the legends, the stories. It's sort of

652
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: in its way, a little bit andorish in that way.

653
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: It's kind of like, Okay, well, here's at the end,

654
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: and is the legacy, the songs, the bards. What happens

655
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: to lead you to a place where you can get

656
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: that recognition, and who are all the people on the

657
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: way who helped you get there. That's endlessly intriguing, and

658
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: especially in a world like this, where we're so often

659
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: focused on the high born and the people who are

660
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: chosen in prophecies, it's kind of incredible to just get

661
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: to see what it's like for the kids scrabbling around

662
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: in the dut Let's discuss Baylor for a moment.

663
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: Because he said it himself in terms of the ethicalness

664
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: the level of honor of his particular plan, that he

665
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: would be the meat shield keeping the king's guard at

666
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: bay who cannot strike him. Well, he waited for the

667
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: judgment of the gods, and the judgment of the gods

668
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: would be that he would get his head cracked like

669
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: an egg and die. Your thoughts, I mean people will.

670
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure people will say that the the that the

671
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: gods have, the gods judged him, that it was a

672
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: dishonorable plan, and look what happened.

673
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: That's interesting because I wonder if I want, I do

674
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: think that's a reading, but I also wonder if it's

675
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: also like the this is what had to happen for

676
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: the worthy thing to happen. You know, it's almost like

677
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: a sacrifice. It's like you, he sacrificed himself doing the

678
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: right thing, and the gods judged him because well, you

679
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: help this guy. Now Duncan gets to live on your name,

680
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: will live in infamy or whatever. I think it's very interesting,

681
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: but it does kind of also readers like probably shouldn't

682
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: gone up against your brother mate, Like maybe not the

683
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: best plan. I don't know what does the god? How

684
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: does the god judge? How does how do the Targarians

685
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 2: read this? Because there because really they lose either way.

686
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they read this as yet another incredibly

687
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: ill timed bit of bad luck, just when they could least,

688
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: whether you know, because it's like we're knitting the we're

689
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: knitting the kingdom back together the wake of the Blackfire rebellion,

690
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: darre On the Second has brought Dorn into the realm

691
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: through diplomacy. We're you know, we're we're we have a

692
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: crown prince that will add stability onto this kind of

693
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: uh uh firm basis that dare On the Second has

694
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: has set up for us. And now we have what

695
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: could be a succession dispute. Now we have what people

696
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: will some people conspiracy theorists around the realm will consider

697
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: a plot. What do you mean this guy who came

698
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: out of nowhere insulted the crown prince and then that

699
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: turned into a trial of seven that idea which ended

700
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: up with his add now the crown ship.

701
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: Like, people will say that looks scandalous, right, People will.

702
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: Be like, oh, the fix is in. It's a fucking setup,

703
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: and that at a time when the Targarian family is

704
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: already struggling with its legitimacy is not good. It's not good.

705
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: The fallout from this will be bad politically.

706
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: It's gonna be bad. It's gonna be bad, guys. So

707
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: I think that's why we really leave. Even though obviously

708
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: Mayka's feeling from the death of his brother. I think

709
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 2: we also leave him in machiavellian planning mode, like how.

710
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: You shall see episode six. Yeah, that's my guess.

711
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: It's like, how do you get out of this without

712
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 2: destroying the Tagarian name or what's left of it.

713
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: And like we said before, you know my sense of

714
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: Macar through this show, and one of you know, one

715
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: of the things I've enjoyed most about this show is

716
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: the way that's added depth to my conception of the characters.

717
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: It hasn't changed them, but it's added different facets to them.

718
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: And you know, my conception of Macar through the show

719
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: is a guy who was simply very very happy, maybe

720
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: even a little relieved that he wasn't going to get

721
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 1: the big chair. Yeah, he could just and he could

722
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: just hang back, be a prince, be rich, try and

723
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: raise his sons as best he can, and not worry

724
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: about that whole rigamarole with the politicking. And and I

725
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: think he is going to be on top of like

726
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: the serious personal tragedy, because it appeared that he and

727
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: Baylor had a very good relationship. Yeah, on top of

728
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: the personal tragedy. I think it's going to be he's

729
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: going to be at best a reluctant king.

730
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: Yes, at bath.

731
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: Well, let's take a quick break and then we'll be

732
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: back with our letters from the Seven Kingdoms. Our quick

733
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: thoughts on this episode back after this.

734
00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, now we're back.

735
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: We're back. I have I have one quick thought, so

736
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 2: I'm starting. There's my major quick thought. Guys, Yes, please,

737
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start. We need to arm the women of

738
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: wester Ross. I'm talking about the moment. I'm like, the

739
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 2: moment that maybe pops out and the maybe's like, give

740
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: them a knife. I gotta be seeing. I gotta be

741
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: given these women's swords. I gotta be giving them knives.

742
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: There's no way Race should have been out there Robin

743
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: men like that without a single blade on her. That

744
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: was a failure. I feel like we need to give

745
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: more women in west Rows knives. Let's train them to

746
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 2: be swordsmiths. Let's make sure that it's not just the

747
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 2: Sparrows and the spiders and the whisperers who have got

748
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: the weapons. We need all girls from a young age

749
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: to be holding at least a sharp object in west

750
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: Ross because they should not be able to be getting

751
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: taken out like that by Alista, who is on my

752
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: it's on site list. Fuck that guy.

753
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: My quick note will be R I P. To Humphrey Beesbery.

754
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: Mister bees Uh, I love I love the stimilar in memoriam.

755
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: I love the beehive sigil. I love the way it

756
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 1: was arranged across the pauldrons and chest of his armor.

757
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: And honestly, we barely got to know know this fucking

758
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: guy because he r I P.

759
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: We hardly knew ye Jason any Raymond Besbury facts? I mean,

760
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: what was his name, not naming him Raymond Humphrey any

761
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 2: Humphrey Beesbury Facts for the people or second Humphrey.

762
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 4: Uh.

763
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: Little is known of the man. Little little is known

764
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: of him. He was a ball. He was like a

765
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: very obviously a courageous night who believed in honor, as

766
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: evidenced by the fact that he was willing to pick

767
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: up Dunk's standard in what was, you know, a very contentious,

768
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: certainly very dangerous, and certainly very politically sensitive trial of seven.

769
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: But like, honestly, we know very we know very little

770
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: about the man.

771
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: Very send us on a postcard, We'll read it. We'll

772
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 2: read it up him.

773
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: Dying, is it so? R Ipeter that guy?

774
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: Thank you to thatman.

775
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, what else? Well?

776
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: Other thoughts from West Roast this time around. Okay, I

777
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 2: want to shout out my guy Raymond, because no one

778
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: thought he was coming out of the fight alive, like

779
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: he he got knighted on a step, Like if you

780
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: didn't know who that man was, you would be like,

781
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: this man just got knighted just before he came in

782
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: the fight. He puked, he's getting laughed at, and you

783
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: know what, he survived. I want to say that that

784
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: man is a loyal friend. I hope you're going to

785
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: keep him on side. Duncan. I hope that's gonna be

786
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: your boy. I feel like, let's get Egg out of there.

787
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: I don't feel like he should be allowed to be

788
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: a squire anymore. He's ten and in the fucking legion

789
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: to the like he's in line to the throne. I

790
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 2: want you guys to go on together, but I feel

791
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: like that's gonna end badly. I feel like it's not

792
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: a smart idea, So uh yeah, I just want to

793
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: shout out Raymond. I'm proud of you. I think you

794
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: did a good job. I never thought that you would survived,

795
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: but here you are. Fuck the Targarians. You did it. Jason,

796
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 2: what's your next next one?

797
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna just shout out the fallen rip

798
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 1: reef oh ri ip raef ri ip raef. Love the spirit,

799
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: love the fight, love the the warrior, scrappiness, like I

800
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: love the entrepreneurial drive. Like, let's go out there to

801
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: the battlefield, cut some rings off some royals. Oh here's

802
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: a half dead royal. Let's take him ostade.

803
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: And raisom what I like it.

804
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: That's metal, I mean, that's some that is that's a

805
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: money making mentality. That's a that's a future boss bitch

806
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: seat of she could bandit industries see but sadly, a

807
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: little too much spunk in a little bit more wisdom

808
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: we needed to.

809
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: We need more weaponings, a little bit of just a

810
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 2: little bit of impulse control. You know, sometimes you I

811
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: was gonna say, sometimes when you escape from a man's

812
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 2: clutches and he's just about to kill you, you can't rob

813
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: him straight away. You gotta come back off the lay

814
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: up with a batter plan. You can't just rob him

815
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: because then he's gonna kill you. As she learned, sad

816
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: story for rape. But I liked that she was never

817
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: living in fear of the truth of patriarchy. She knew,

818
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: she did not care that a man could just cut

819
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 2: her throat. She was still gonna rob him, and she lived.

820
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 2: Were proud of her. She lived doing what she loved,

821
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: robbing a man.

822
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 1: And she had her eyes open about this place. She's like, listen,

823
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: flem Westros really like, I'm so it's not good.

824
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 2: We're no way, no way. It couldn't.

825
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: I got she had it write R I P to

826
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: R I P two D three. Wait, hold on, we're

827
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna go. Getting a call from from hold on,

828
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: speak up the fire. Hey, Mike, this is his other Maory.

829
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Sir Alan today. You know,

830
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: not a lot of people remember Sir Arlin. His stats.

831
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: You know, he his stats. You're not gonna find his

832
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: stats on night reference dot com. He did a lot

833
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: of independent work, and he did a lot of work

834
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: in leagues that you know, we're not uh official leagues.

835
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: A lot of people forgot about this guy. But I

836
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: saw him work when he was a young man. I

837
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: gotta tell you he had something. He had grit, He

838
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: had fight in him. It wasn't pretty, Mike, Okay, it

839
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: wasn't pretty, but he was the type of a knight

840
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: who was just gonna keep going for you could hit him,

841
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: you could bash him, you could stab him, and he

842
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: was gonna keep coming forward. Now, some of that, Mike

843
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: was because he was drunk and he could not feel

844
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: a thing. Mike. Okay, he was out there to the guils,

845
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: Mike with wine coming out of his ears. But well,

846
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: what a what a sight he was to behold back

847
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: in his day. I'll take my hands off the he

848
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: can fight, he shouts to him, shouts to him, he did.

849
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 2: Did anyone else die? Jason?

850
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: Anyone else? R I p Prince Prince Baylor. Ah, I

851
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: just I I don't know what he could have done differently.

852
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: It was a good plan, right, I think what he

853
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what he could have done differently other

854
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: than just watch his head.

855
00:49:59,200 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

856
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 2: I I would say like I'd probably have like gone

857
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: to my brother before and been like, don't use the

858
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: Morning Star near me.

859
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: Like just don't Like, I don't know who did cut

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Speaker 1: it out?

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Speaker 2: Cut it out? Cut out? No, I would probably like,

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Speaker 2: what could Baylor have done? I don't know. I feel

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Speaker 2: like he did have a little bit of arrogance going in,

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Speaker 2: a little bit of privilege, assumption that he was not

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Speaker 2: going to get hit in the head with some kind

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Speaker 2: of heavy object. You know, So what could he have done?

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Speaker 4: Nothing?

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Speaker 2: But I'm glad he stood up with Dunk. I will

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Speaker 2: take a targarian dying to keep our hedge night going.

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Speaker 2: That's the kind of exchange I can accept.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, it speaks highly of Baylor as a

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Speaker 1: as a fighter.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk about taking hits, taking a lick

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Speaker 1: and keep on ticking. True, this guy had one twentieth

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Speaker 1: of his brain gone gone, smashed potentially, you know, smashed,

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Speaker 1: bits of bone shoved deep into the into the brain.

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Speaker 1: And he was walking. He got off his horse, walked

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Speaker 1: over Rosie. He got off his horse, that's okay, walked

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Speaker 1: over He's like, where's Doug. I gotta talk to that guy.

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Speaker 2: If they'd have kept the helmet on, could he have

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Speaker 2: survived held a helmet and they just bandaged it up? Like,

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Speaker 2: I think they could have survived.

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's a good thought, right, he just.

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Speaker 2: Do a really good job. Get it was only when

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Speaker 2: Raymond pulled it off and it.

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Speaker 1: Was like the blood depressure dropped, come.

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Speaker 2: Off, the brain stuck to the shield.

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Speaker 1: He gets off his He finishes the battle, rides to

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Speaker 1: the sideline, gets off his horse, says to somebody, where's

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Speaker 1: where's that Duncan Okay, walks over, appears in the doorway

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Speaker 1: of the of the stable, where Duncan happens to be

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Speaker 1: laid up very lucid, and then holds a minute conversation

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Speaker 1: with most people with multiple people, where Dunk throws him

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Speaker 1: his allegiance and and Baylor is like, yeah, good, good,

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Speaker 1: that's a good idea. Let's do it. And it's only

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Speaker 1: to your point when the helmet comes off about a

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Speaker 1: minute or so later that he finally succumbs that you

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Speaker 1: want to talk about tough, we don't talk about it enough.

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Speaker 1: That guy was tough because he was dead on his feet, and.

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Speaker 2: That he was more eloquent right then than a tulgarians

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Speaker 2: when that brain's off fully walking.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, is that a you know your

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Speaker 1: word is your bond in Western's words or wind? But

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Speaker 1: also it's important mm hmm. Crown Prince said, I have

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Speaker 1: a job now.

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Speaker 2: His important.

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Speaker 1: His brains were falling out and he would dive fifteen

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Speaker 1: seconds later. But if I'm Dunk, like if I'm dunk.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a contract.

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Speaker 2: I got a job first, that's a contract. Where's my job?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to see where we finish up with

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Speaker 1: this show. It's it's it feels perfectly paced. But I

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Speaker 1: just six episodes. I wish it was more sat I know,

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Speaker 1: having such a great time six weeks feels like almost nothing.

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Speaker 1: But I'll see you, see you next week. As we

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Speaker 1: talk about the finale of a Night of the Seven Kingdoms.

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Speaker 1: On the next episode of extra Vision, we are covering

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Speaker 1: the final two episodes of Fallout season two. You demanded it,

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Speaker 1: we are doing it.

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Speaker 2: You're doing it.

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Speaker 1: Wuthering Heights, question work ends more Night of His Seven Kingdoms.

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Speaker 1: That's it for this episode of Actual Estate. X ray

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Speaker 1: Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie Knight and

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Speaker 1: is a production of iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abu Zafar.

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Speaker 2: Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Faye wag.

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Speaker 1: Our theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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Speaker 1: songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 2: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman, and Heidi,

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Speaker 2: our discord moderator,