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Speaker 5: Kavino and Rich aren't college basketball coaches the just in

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Speaker 5: for Dan Patrick this week. They completed their Dan Patrick

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Speaker 5: Patrick earlier today. They're not facing any suspensions. They did

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Speaker 5: not for rate any reporters. They did not shove any

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Speaker 5: iPhones into anyone's face. That is why you don't have

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Speaker 5: Coveno and Rich today. So you've got me and Monci Bolagos.

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Speaker 6: You know you made me think if though, if they

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Speaker 6: were co.

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Speaker 7: Coaches in the middle of a game, who is the

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Speaker 7: first one to get ejected?

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Speaker 1: Rich?

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Speaker 6: So too? I think so too.

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Speaker 5: Rich biget ejected from one of his daughter's games or

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Speaker 5: one of his son's games for the call he's there

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Speaker 5: is no doubt he could get taught.

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Speaker 1: He absolutely could.

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Speaker 5: But mc cronin last night he didn't get tossed, but

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Speaker 5: he tossed his own player. We've got the news that

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Speaker 5: R paled Doug Gottlieb, who joined US earlier this week

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Speaker 5: on the network, explaining his tirade that he had Sunday, Well,

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Speaker 5: the hammer was put down. Today, Doug got a one

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Speaker 5: game ban as head coach of the Green Bay Phoenix

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Speaker 5: for criticizing the officials publicly criticizing the officials, and then

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Speaker 5: on top of that, over the last eighteen hours or so,

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Speaker 5: video surfaced of one Fred Hoiberg, the head coach of Nebraska,

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Speaker 5: not happy that Sam's Iowa Hawkeyes took him down, and

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Speaker 5: he decided to use his hand to get a cell

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Speaker 5: phone out of his face after the crowd decided to

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Speaker 5: rush the court.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: No, I definitely was shocked at the third one more

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Speaker 7: than anything, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: It's shoving of the phone, Yes.

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Speaker 6: Because I was I didn't know what to look for.

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Speaker 7: I just was like, there's so much chaos going on

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Speaker 7: in the video that you kind of don't know what

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Speaker 7: to look for, and then you see it and it

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Speaker 7: stood out a little too much in a video full

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Speaker 6: You get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I am curious on Iowa Sam. I know, Sam,

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Speaker 5: I know you've got a lot going on and you're

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Speaker 5: actually gonna be leaving us at some point because you've

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Speaker 5: been here for the Oh, you're here.

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Speaker 1: All the show, all right, Iowa win. Sam's like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to stay a little a little longer.

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Speaker 1: It was a good night last night.

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Speaker 5: Is it a reason for Iowa? Like, is that win

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Speaker 5: reason for Iowa to storm the court? Woh Man, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's the first. I feel conflicted about this.

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of out on court storming because it's become

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Speaker 3: so it's just happened so much now that you're like,

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Speaker 3: you just beat the number twelve team, or like, this

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Speaker 3: is Iowa over Nebraska, who is number nine. It was

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Speaker 3: their first AP top twenty five win since twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: twenty two, and it was Ben McCollum, head coach, first year.

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Speaker 3: There was his first big win, like ranked team win.

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Speaker 3: So I understand the kids wanted to go celebrate, but

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Speaker 3: I did not actually did not see Heiberg would slap

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Speaker 5: Yes, shove the phone out of an Iowa fan who

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Speaker 5: rushed the court during the handshake line. Somehow some fan

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Speaker 5: his phone in Fred Hoiberg's face, and Heiberg shoved it away,

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Speaker 5: then grabbed an Iowa assistant to show him what the

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Speaker 3: See I watched postgame of this show and they went

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Speaker 3: to Fred Hoiberg did the postgame stuff. None of this

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Speaker 1: Then we had the.

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Speaker 5: Film from the stands where somebody actually caught him, but

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Speaker 5: there was the actual video from the guy's phone of

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Speaker 5: Fred Hoiberg's hand and his mug basically his face was

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Speaker 5: The reason that I break this one up first is

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Speaker 5: because of asking Sam, is it worth Iowa court storming

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Speaker 5: When Iowa is right now, they're in the tournament, they're

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Speaker 5: Now there's reports this week that Nebraska and their former

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Speaker 5: Nebraska's number in football for a while, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've won like ten of eleven, so.

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Speaker 1: That's where it hurts.

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Speaker 5: But there is this rivalry for Nebraska, who really doesn't

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Speaker 5: So Fred Hoiberg, I don't think anybody would want a

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Speaker 5: law and to have it happened to Iowa. I can

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Speaker 1: Now you have to.

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Speaker 5: Try to be the better person in that scenario. We've

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Speaker 5: heard what John Shire of Duke feels about court storming.

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Speaker 5: Duke gets the court stormed on them anytime they lose

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Speaker 5: on the road, the visiting fans will storm the court

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Speaker 5: North Carolina it happened to because it was on a

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Speaker 5: buzzer beater we saw stuff with Wake Forest a year

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Speaker 5: or two ago. It always happens to Duke, so Duke

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Speaker 5: always gets used to this stuff. You think Nebraska is

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Speaker 5: used to people storming the court on them. I'm going

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Speaker 5: to say no, no, no. So it's a unique situation,

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Speaker 5: in a personal spot, in a rivalry situation. I'm actually

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Speaker 5: giving Fred Hoiberg.

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Speaker 7: A pass I vacation in college football, college basketball, so casual,

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Speaker 7: knowing what I know, I have no problem with the storm,

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Speaker 7: the storming of the court, whatever, And I had no

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Speaker 7: problem with how he reacted. I understand you're supposed to

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Speaker 7: try to be the bigger person, but in any negative situation,

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Speaker 7: if you get in my personal space with the phone,

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Speaker 7: it's not gonna go.

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Speaker 6: Well, why do I have to.

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Speaker 7: Be the bigger person? Get out of my face? You

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Speaker 7: could have recorded me from afar.

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Speaker 6: There's a zoom, there's a zoom.

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Speaker 7: You could have gotten my face. You did not need

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Speaker 7: to get that close to me. If I can stretch

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Speaker 7: close to me in a type of situation like that,

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Speaker 7: you could have zoomed in and not gotten in my face.

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Speaker 5: It's such a sorry, but it's such a smart ass

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Speaker 5: moment from the fan. Yeah, like to try to do

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Speaker 5: that because you know the stakes, you know what's going on, you.

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Speaker 6: Know what you're doing.

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Speaker 7: You're putting your salts on the wound, you're pushing the buttons,

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Speaker 7: you're trying to make it worse.

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Speaker 6: You're trying to get a reaction.

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Speaker 3: When you that's exactly what we're asking teenagers and twenty

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Speaker 3: somethings to make a good decision. While there's basically a

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Speaker 1: There's a security issue there. And I've always had a

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Speaker 6: This a good decision or just being a decent person.

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Speaker 1: Well, like the again, you have a zoom anytime.

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Speaker 3: See here's the thing. Anytime you're like, you know what,

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Speaker 3: was it really worth worth storming the number fifteen team

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Speaker 3: of six games after starting twenty to zero. The thing

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Speaker 3: is is like you always get people poop poo oh,

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Speaker 3: we'll stop poop pooing their fun. You're a fun hater.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like I was, you know, after a while,

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Speaker 3: these court stormings, like it's maybe fun for them, it's

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Speaker 3: a story for them. But in the long term, like

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Speaker 3: you see these as just a casual fan observing these games,

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Speaker 3: you get kind of tired of it, Like there's just

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Speaker 3: a security issue. You worried about people's safety. You were

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Speaker 3: like court storming used to be reserved for like we

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Speaker 3: beat like the top three teams in the country. Maybe

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Speaker 3: they were undefeated. Maybe when Nebraska lost their first game

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Speaker 3: to let me see here, well they were at Michigan

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Speaker 3: and they actually lost. They wouldn't have court stormed the

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Speaker 3: court for that. But if you were at you know, undefeated,

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Speaker 3: and you were a top three team, then that's fine.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think they're thinking about that context when

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Speaker 3: they're like, oh, well we just won. We just beat

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Speaker 3: the number nine team in the country. We haven't had

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Speaker 3: a ranked team beaten the ranked team in a while.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna do this because we're gonna have our moment.

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Speaker 1: I just stormcorming is a problem.

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Speaker 5: The SEC has gone to great lengths to try to

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Speaker 5: prevent it in their league with fines, whether it be football,

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Speaker 5: whether it be basketball, and there's a way to do it,

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Speaker 5: Duke has always said, and this is why with John

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Speaker 5: Shire claiming and for those that don't know. The duke

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Speaker 5: head coach claimed that certain things happen to members of

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Speaker 5: But this is also on the heels of remember Kyle

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Speaker 5: Philipowski was walking off the court against Wake Forest and

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Speaker 5: a bunch of fans came running in and injured his

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Speaker 5: knee at the time, and there was a there's a

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Speaker 5: player safety issue that has always been there, and it

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Speaker 5: is up to the leagues and it's up to those

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Speaker 5: schools and the conferences to makes you make sure that

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Speaker 5: the schools enforce it that. Yeah, I get what Sam

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Speaker 5: is saying that it's Iowa's responsibility, but ultimately, you could

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Speaker 6: A exactly you know, need to need to happen.

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Speaker 7: We didn't be talking about it. We're not talking about

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Speaker 7: the storming of the court. We're talking about the incident

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Speaker 7: with the coach.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's a few thousand, maybe I don't know, hundreds,

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Speaker 3: if not a thousand or thousand fans on the court

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Speaker 3: and you're asking them all to be on their best

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Speaker 3: behavior and their kids.

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Speaker 6: You do not go up to with the phone to.

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Speaker 1: The more.

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Speaker 3: The more people you have on the court who are

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Speaker 3: not they're just behaving like a bunch of Adams bouncing

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Speaker 3: off each other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's gonna be one person.

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be one person who ruins it for the lot, right,

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Speaker 3: who gets in Fred Hoiberg's face and is obnoxious. Yes,

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Speaker 3: So it's like, if there's fifty kids on the court,

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Speaker 3: the likelihood of that happening is much lower. But there's

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Speaker 3: so many people in the court, there's such a breach

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Speaker 3: of like security almost like it just everything's kind of

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Speaker 3: chaotic that someone's going to make a bad decision along

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Speaker 3: the way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think ultimately, because there's the other situations

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Speaker 5: I want to get to, is Fred Hoiberg with this

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Speaker 5: video is made to look like the bad apple, Right,

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Speaker 5: the bad apple is the kid who felt the need.

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Speaker 1: Look at this video. I was taunting Fred Heuberg, absolutely,

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Speaker 5: Really, when you're twenty years older, you're really gonna think

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Speaker 7: Not all coaches are the same. But I don't know

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Speaker 6: Really Yeah, I think let's let's get a little baground. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Michigan State is destroying UCLA. Yes, Michigan State's destroying UCLA.

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Speaker 5: Last night, there's a breakaway play as UCLA tries to

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Speaker 5: like that, doesn't like that sportsman look play. So I'm like, Wow,

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Speaker 5: you just abandon his player who made a foul from

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Speaker 5: done it. I've seen worse, but not a great foul

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Speaker 5: Michigan State up thirty at that point. But it's what

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Speaker 8: Well, was your thoughts in the student section Channing Hooker's name.

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Speaker 1: I met the overall the way that I would like to.

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Speaker 8: Give you a kudos for your worst question I've ever

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Speaker 2: Do you really think I.

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Speaker 4: Care about the other I don't think you care about

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Speaker 8: Come on, dude, no reason, Yes you were. Everybody's standing

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Speaker 8: Who cares?

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Speaker 5: Okay, let's first of all, get the l in the

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Speaker 5: Jason Stewart Like, that's that's first of all. Where Mick

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Speaker 9: It seems to be a common thing. I think that

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Speaker 5: Yep, all right, now let's get to the comments that

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Speaker 7: What he did after that's separate. But I will say first,

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Speaker 6: But with the foul.

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Speaker 7: my god, let me look at this foul. I was

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Speaker 7: we just saw, Saint John's what's that player with a

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Speaker 6: How he took that guy down Providence? Thank you. I

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Speaker 6: I was like, this is what he got? Mad bout? Huh?

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Speaker 6: So I watched it again. Why is he mad about this?

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Speaker 7: I think what I don't think he handled it right,

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Speaker 6: I feel like that's what upset cronin you. You thought

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Speaker 6: by twenty. Why did you step up like that?

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Speaker 5: I don't think if that was his perspective, right, it's

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Speaker 6: And what you like doing the small sign when you're.

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Speaker 5: I understand that, but that doesn't equate I think to

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Speaker 5: I talked about the time when reporters I asked a

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Speaker 5: And that's where McK cronin had some Napoleon complex and

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Speaker 7: Here, Yes, Daniel, a terrible moment to double down. Yes,

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Speaker 7: that wasn't the worst question that, like you said, And

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Speaker 6: Coogle bird, you know what I'm saying, Like, what are

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Speaker 1: This is Judge Judy?

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Speaker 5: Would I think if this was a case, she would

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Speaker 5: stop it. Sam, focus your.

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Speaker 8: I could give a rat's ask about the other team

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Speaker 2: You a.

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Speaker 8: Kudos for your worst question I've ever been asked?

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Speaker 1: Did you like there should take it?

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Speaker 8: The preparation? Do you really think I care about the

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Speaker 7: Question after asking a question too, you really think I care?

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Speaker 6: No, I don't care. Are you raising your voice on me?

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Speaker 5: You asked me a question, yes, I the I'll take

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Speaker 5: it that the reporter said, I think was the straw

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Speaker 6: He didn't like that.

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Speaker 5: because then mccronan wouldn't let it go then took it

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Speaker 5: mccronan's going to stay. But this year seems to get

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Speaker 6: It's hard, it's hard to defund.

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Speaker 5: Him, and and uh, you know there's there. I'm going

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Speaker 5: Greg Campy, I believes number one longest tenured at his

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Speaker 5: So I feel that the Horizon League and I get it.

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Speaker 5: I know Doug. I worked with Doug for eight years.

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Speaker 5: I feel that they were trying to make an example

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Speaker 5: out of him, and that they felt that this was

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Speaker 5: their opportunity because if you spended the head coach at

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Speaker 5: Youngstown State, where you suspended the head coach at Robert Morris,

440
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Speaker 5: it doesn't make the headlines, but this this will. And

441
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Speaker 5: I felt that they tried to make an example out

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Speaker 5: of him.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's hard to disagree with that because I felt

444
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Speaker 7: the frustration for Doug Hey coach. I felt the frustration,

445
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Speaker 7: and I don't want to admit it, but I think

446
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Speaker 7: I'd be a lot closer to Doug Gottlieb as a

447
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Speaker 7: coach than not sure I would that was him because

448
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Speaker 7: he was upset for his players.

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Speaker 6: There were some bad.

450
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Speaker 7: Calls that I was I didn't watch the game, but

451
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Speaker 7: you knew what he was upset about. It came from

452
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Speaker 7: a place of no, let me show you why I'm upset.

453
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Speaker 7: I'm not just pulling this out of, you know, anywhere.

454
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Speaker 7: There was a reason I feel like this, and I

455
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Speaker 7: don't blame him. I don't blame him for how he acted.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you I think I would have done the

457
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Speaker 6: same thing. I can't be a coach.

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Speaker 5: Jay film me in here. Do we have Doug's audio

459
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Speaker 5: from earlier in the week or where? What do you

460
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Speaker 5: want to do with this? Let's just do it quick,

461
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Speaker 5: because we had Doug on Monday and this can kind

462
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Speaker 5: of put a bow on all of this. We asked

463
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Speaker 5: Doug about his choice of words, how he acted Sunday

464
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Speaker 5: in the postgame press conference that ultimately led to was

465
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Speaker 5: one game suspension. This is what Doug Gottlieb told us

466
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Speaker 5: on Monday. Is there anything you would like to say

467
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Speaker 5: differently than what you said after yesterday's lost to Milwaukee?

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Speaker 2: You know he can't he just can't criticize the officials publically.

469
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Speaker 2: I mean, he can't do it. I have no I mean,

470
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Speaker 2: no one should have any problem with saying I just

471
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Speaker 2: I deserve an explanation on technical foul, which I did get, but.

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Speaker 1: You got the I got the explanation you finally did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was that is that the official heard the

474
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Speaker 2: F word, which I have a comfortable relationship with the

475
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Speaker 2: F word, but I absolutely didn't say it there. And

476
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Speaker 2: you know, you know, look here, here's the way it

477
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Speaker 2: actually works on the sidelines. And honestly, like, well, I

478
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Speaker 2: think about it. We can pull the tape because I'm

479
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Speaker 2: miked up so we could see I did see the

480
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Speaker 2: F word, but because I definitely said it afterwards, yes

481
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Speaker 2: he did, but yes, no, but I mean, you know,

482
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Speaker 2: muttering the mess for like, everything requires context. You know,

483
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Speaker 2: even the F word doesn't get you a technical foul.

484
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Speaker 2: It's you know, how it's used, when it's used. How

485
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Speaker 2: the monsters you are you on the court? Have they

486
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Speaker 2: warned you? You know, quality officiating in it was a

487
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Speaker 2: three point game at the time, and quality officiating is

488
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Speaker 2: a coach. That's it. That's what they that's what they do.

489
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Speaker 2: The really good ones say hey, that's it, or they

490
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Speaker 2: come by you and they like, hey, one morning, I'm

491
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Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to ban

492
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Speaker 2: all right, But that never happened.

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Speaker 5: So Doug was upset over the technical foul, and there

494
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Speaker 5: were other calls in the game, and one of the

495
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Speaker 5: calls that was made led to his technical foul, So

496
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Speaker 5: some of it's all kind of jumbled. Ultimately, what I

497
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Speaker 5: think is interesting in all of this, the chancellor at

498
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Speaker 5: green Bay, the athletic director at green Bay back to Doug.

499
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Speaker 5: They did not agree with the one game suspension. They

500
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Speaker 5: thought a rep public premand would have been enough. Yeah,

501
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Speaker 5: sufficient in this case, But I feel the Horizon League

502
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Speaker 5: tried to make an example because it was Doug. And

503
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Speaker 5: Doug will admit it himself. Some Doug doesn't do himself

504
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Speaker 5: favors at times, but I felt like they tried to

505
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Speaker 5: take advantage of the situation by giving him the one

506
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Speaker 5: game ban. May be biased to feel that way, but

507
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Speaker 5: when we see all of these things happening, none rises

508
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Speaker 5: to the level of the absurdness of what mccronan did

509
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Speaker 5: last night in East Lancing for UCLA. I give Fred

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Speaker 5: Hoiberg a pass all days not you know, you should

511
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Speaker 5: be the villain and all of this. You know, Doug

512
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Speaker 5: may have brought some of this on himself, but the

513
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Speaker 5: one game suspension I thought was too much. Whatever happens

514
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Speaker 5: to mccronan has probably deserved.

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Speaker 6: I think right, I think so, I want him your

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Speaker 1: Party's here, it's on camera. It's on camera.

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Speaker 6: Man, he should have said I am and what I am?

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Speaker 5: And Mick Cronin was on camera with with his words.

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Speaker 5: Kevin Durant was on camera, Yeah, he was, actually was

548
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Speaker 5: today those Burner texts, those Burner tweet messages that somehow

549
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Speaker 5: got leaked, and there were dots connecting Kevin Durant to

550
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Speaker 5: those messages. There was some question on whether Kevin Durant

551
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Speaker 5: was the actual author of those With AI nowadays, you

552
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 5: have no idea what's real or what's fake. So I

553
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Speaker 5: gave Kevin Durant the benefit of the doubt on addressing

554
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Speaker 5: these allegations up until the second he answered this question

555
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Speaker 5: today on if he wanted to address the topic of

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Speaker 5: the leaked text messages or tweets.

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Speaker 7: I know you got to ask these questions, but I'm

558
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Speaker 7: here to get into Twitter nonsense sometimes, here to focus

559
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Speaker 7: on the season.

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Speaker 1: Keep it pushing. But I know, I get you have

561
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Speaker 1: to answer those questions. Know what it is. We've been

562
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Speaker 1: locked in the whole season.

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Speaker 4: He's been enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: R Bradon had a great practice today with a force.

565
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Speaker 2: Of his road trip.

566
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Speaker 5: How many times has Kevin Durant went toe to toe

567
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Speaker 5: with the reporter on what he may have thought is

568
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 5: a BS question? Plenty of times, plenty of times, and

569
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Speaker 5: they may have been legitimate questions. Now he's got an

570
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 5: understanding of the media now he does. Now, Hey, I understand, man,

571
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Speaker 5: I am with you. You have to ask that question.

572
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 5: But guess what, I'm locked in with the team right now.

573
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Speaker 5: The whole reason, yeah, keep the whole reason that you

574
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Speaker 5: have a burner account is to immediately respond to things

575
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Speaker 5: that you would normally need a filter for or wouldn't

576
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Speaker 5: want to address with anyone else like those are the

577
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Speaker 5: reasons for it. But Kevin Durant today does not want

578
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Speaker 5: to talk about it yet. He is has a burner

579
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Speaker 5: account because he can't stop talking about these things on

580
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Speaker 5: x That's absolutely crazy to me and contradicts all of

581
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Speaker 5: Kevin Durant's actions that he has done prior.

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Speaker 7: This is not the first time we've had we've heard

583
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 7: of Kevin Durant with a burner account or a burner phone.

584
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 7: We've heard this throughout the years, And when the story

585
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 7: first came out, I was like, yeah, it was probably him,

586
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 7: only because.

587
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Speaker 6: He loves being on Twitter, even on his own account,

588
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 6: and talking smack with everybody.

589
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Speaker 7: He loves it and listen, I appreciate it because it

590
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Speaker 7: gives me something to laugh about.

591
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Speaker 6: But I thought that is probably him, So I actually

592
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Speaker 6: cared more about who leaked this. That's actually who I.

593
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Speaker 1: Want to know.

594
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Speaker 5: You the Golden State Warriors. They didn't care that Draymond

595
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 5: punched Jordan Poole. They want to know how the video

596
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 5: got out.

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Speaker 6: Yes, like kind of the same.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's that's bad that you're putting me in

599
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 7: that same But I get it, Yes, agreed, I kind

600
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 7: of want to know, kind of snitched on him because

601
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 7: I'm not surprised about this And is that sad maybe, but.

602
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Speaker 6: This is Kevin We've known this about him. He loves

603
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 6: talking smack on Twitter. That's pastime.

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00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: That's the most damning thing about this.

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Speaker 5: Yes, by the way, Isaac Longnkrown's going to have an

606
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Speaker 5: update for us as the US men's hockey team is

607
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 5: in overtime with Sweden in their quarterfinals, so you'll want

608
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 5: to stay tuned for Isaac's update. Kevin Durant is always

609
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 5: engaged in all of this. In fact, Monty, if he

610
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 5: just would have said, you know what, I saw the list,

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Speaker 5: I'm always on my phone. I may have said one

612
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 5: or two of those things, but there's no way I

613
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 5: said all of them right and left it to be,

614
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 5: then it leaves us being like, okay, he was just

615
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Speaker 5: There's no way he said that about Steve Kerr. There's

616
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Speaker 5: no way he said that about you know, uh Shengoon.

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Speaker 5: There's no way he said that about these players. Maybe

618
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 5: he said that, but at least he owns up to it.

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Speaker 5: But not even not even addressing it. I feel that

620
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 5: he has now taken on responsibility for every single one

621
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Speaker 5: of those that we don't even know if they're real

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Speaker 5: or not.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like he knew what he was doing.

624
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Speaker 7: I think he wants to tell us it is him,

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Speaker 7: but he can't say it.

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Speaker 5: I don't think for the stuff that was said in

627
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Speaker 5: those in the list of things, I don't know if

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Speaker 5: I would be running, you know, running around with my

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Speaker 5: hand up saying I said those things.

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Speaker 7: I feel like Kevin Durant is at a point in

631
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Speaker 7: his career where all he knows, he thinks everyone is

632
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Speaker 7: out to get him.

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Speaker 6: Sure you know what I'm saying. I think he and

634
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Speaker 6: he's out there. That's why he's fighting back. So it's like,

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Speaker 6: I don't I don't think he thinks it's going to

636
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Speaker 6: affect him if we.

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Speaker 7: Realize that those those text messages whatever were real or not.

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Speaker 5: Well, every everywhere Kevin Durant is went, there's been a

639
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 5: problem that wasn't him. And I'm not saying that he

640
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 5: hasn't reached that he's been the problem. I'm just saying,

641
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 5: like there was, there's there's Oklahoma City, and the relationship

642
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 5: with with him and Russ maybe isn't as great anymore.

643
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 5: So then he leaves, and then him and Draymond and

644
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 5: whatever he said about again, I don't know what was

645
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 5: real and what's not. But since he's not taking any

646
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 5: responsibility for any of the texts. I'm just assuming that

647
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 5: he did say all these things, and that may not

648
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 5: be fair, but I think his history shows us. But

649
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 5: every stop, like it always seems like it's someone else's problems.

650
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 5: It was James Harden's problem in Brooklyn, you know, he

651
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 5: and Kyrie ended up getting hurt as their problem. In Phoenix,

652
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Speaker 5: you know, it was his team for a while, but

653
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Speaker 5: then they you know, they wanted to cut him loose

654
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Speaker 5: and it's their fault. And now now he's in Houston

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Speaker 5: and he's saying that they're all committed. Well, then why

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Speaker 5: you throwing shade at even somebody your Houston players. You've

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Speaker 5: only been there a minute. I understand that you're mad

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Speaker 5: about the leak, which I think would be frustrating to anyone,

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Speaker 5: but it's also why you got to know who your

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Speaker 5: as it can be when you're Kevin Durant. And he

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Speaker 5: didn't do that, and now he's facing the wrath of it.

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Speaker 5: And I think that his comment today puts him on

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Speaker 5: the hook for every single one of those comments that

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Speaker 5: was leaked, instead of maybe just one or two.

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Speaker 5: Wow, somebody hit the post. Somebody hit the posts on

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Speaker 5: a Wednesday. We're not talking about US hockey because it

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Speaker 5: hit the net, didn't hit the post, but someone hit

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Speaker 5: the post on that one.

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Speaker 1: Job well done.

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Speaker 5: Caleb Williams says, the job's not finished and the job

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Speaker 5: was not accomplished this year because well. Moncy in speaking

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Speaker 5: on Max Crosby's podcast, this is what the Bears quarterback

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Speaker 5: had to say about what he wants from his offense

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I really want to become the greatest offense this year.

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Speaker 7: That's that's really on my mind, being able to, you know,

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Speaker 7: find ways to put up points every single time we're

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Speaker 7: out there.

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Speaker 5: So there it is greatest offense put up points every

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Speaker 5: single time that they have the football.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I don't blame him. He's a quarterback, and I feel

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Speaker 7: like that's what he wants. You know, he's never sit

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Speaker 7: and sniffed a Super Bowl, so he wants to actually

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Speaker 7: get there. He wants to get the offense. I don't

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Speaker 7: think that's a bad thing to say.

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Speaker 5: As Caleb wi MONTI, I think that's very reasonable. Is

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Speaker 5: the way it hit my ears is the way it

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Speaker 5: hit your ears. It did not hit the years of

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Speaker 5: Jason Stewart that way. Jason Stewart, the show's executive producer.

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Speaker 9: It's just something about this guy that that rubs me

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Speaker 9: the wrong way. He's not he's not the first or

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Speaker 9: the last cocky athlete, but there's something about maybe his

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Speaker 9: specific behavior that rubs me the wrong way. And maybe

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Speaker 9: the context of how he came into the league, or

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Speaker 9: a year before he came into the league, he and

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Speaker 9: his dad were to do this power move where he

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Speaker 9: might get ownership stake, and he was going to be

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Speaker 9: this paradigm shifting, game changing prospect that he was going

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Speaker 9: to change the way the NFL did business. And then

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Speaker 9: he had a rookie season that was like mediocre, and

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Speaker 9: you think that would kind of humble him from saying

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Speaker 9: stuff like this. And then he gets the new head

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Speaker 9: coach in there and gets some success, and now he

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Speaker 9: wants to score every time down the field. I was

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Speaker 9: just hoping that maybe some humility would have entered in

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Speaker 9: at some point. And yeah, it's just something about the

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Speaker 9: way this guy carries himself that runs me the wrong way.

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Speaker 5: I I actually felt that his goal say like, we

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Speaker 5: want to be the best offense. Every team is not

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Speaker 5: built like that, but I think that the Bears, yea,

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Speaker 5: the Bears could be like, listen, the Seahawks just won

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. They're my team. Mike McDonald brings in

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Speaker 5: a new offensive coordinator. Their goal is not to be

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Speaker 5: the best offense ever. Their goal is to have the

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Speaker 5: defense work with what the defense is going to do,

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Speaker 5: and then they work in concert with each other. I

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Speaker 5: think that Caleb Williams, I don't even read that much

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Speaker 5: into it. That's what I love Jason's take on it,

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Speaker 5: because I don't think that he's going into Ben Johnson's

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Speaker 5: office and and and Ryan Poles and saying, why do

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Speaker 5: we have a punter on our roster? You are wasting

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Speaker 5: a roster spot because we are going to score every time.

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Speaker 5: Like I think he's just saying that in general a

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Speaker 5: little bit maybe hyperbole, but yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it comes off cocky.

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Speaker 5: But I think that the previous actions of Caleb Williams

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Speaker 5: make Jason's ears jaded.

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Speaker 6: That's exactly what it is for Jason.

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Speaker 7: Certain things that he's going to say maybe forever are

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Speaker 7: going to sound differently because he already set up and

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Speaker 7: you have an opinion of him, and it's going to

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Speaker 7: take a lot, I think.

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Speaker 6: For it to change.

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Speaker 9: Do you guys find him to be likable?

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Speaker 1: Do you root for a Caleb?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I root for a Caleb. I don't know if

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Speaker 6: he is likable.

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Speaker 7: I don't like I don't dislike him, I don't have

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Speaker 7: but I don't know if he's likable.

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Speaker 5: I will answer that question by saying, I can't deny

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Speaker 5: some of the plays that he makes.

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Speaker 1: Ye third, and so the plays, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, in the rams, in the touchdown pass to cole Comet, Like,

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Speaker 5: as much as you want to hate and as much

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Speaker 5: as you want to be sick of what he's saying

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Speaker 5: or how he says it, I don't know how you

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Speaker 5: can deny that right.

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Speaker 1: And that's where I am with him.

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Speaker 6: I agree. I don't think he was.

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Speaker 7: I think there was a lot of pressure for him

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Speaker 7: coming into the NFL. They were like a transcendent No,

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Speaker 7: he's not so in the short career he's had, he's

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Speaker 7: been fun to watch, can't hate on him.

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Speaker 5: I wish there would have been a little bit of

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Speaker 5: humility because of the success they had this year, in

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Speaker 5: appreciating his success, in saying, guess what, this is a

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Speaker 5: tough game.

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Speaker 1: It's the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Maybe a little bit, But then again, I can't get

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Speaker 5: mad at someone who just says what they feel. And

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Speaker 5: I don't think that he was to Jason's point where

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Speaker 5: it was exact words of zero punts in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: If the zero in twenty twenty six is the punts

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Speaker 5: the Bears are gonna have, I don't think he literally

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Speaker 5: meant that, But if you have the history that Jason

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Speaker 5: does with him, I can understand why you would.

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Speaker 6: I like that slogan zero punts in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: She's Monzi blagno. So I'm dan by her, in for

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Speaker 5: Cavino and Rich. What Olympic sports stands above all that's next,