1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hey, well, welcome back to that You're Happy Hour. I'm 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Joe and I's Serena and we are here today with Juliana. Juliana, 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: welcome back to batter Happy Hour. 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me guys, no problem. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 3: Where are you today? 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 4: I'm in Newton, Massachusetts. I'm at my parents' house today. 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 3: Nice. 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 5: Last time we had you on this podcast was post finale. 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 5: I think we did like a little catch up with 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 5: you and Grant. You guys were about to go on 11 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 5: a trip with your family. 12 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: Jesus, Serena, don't rub it in. 13 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: Well, that's the last time we saw her. That's just 14 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: a fact. 15 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, a lot a lots haven't since then. 16 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 5: We're gonna get into it. Yeah yeah, yeah, But how 17 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 5: are you doing now? 18 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 3: What's new? Catch us up? 19 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: I'm doing good. 20 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: Everything's been going really great lately in life, which I'm 21 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 4: really lucky for. Just crushing it in my nine to 22 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 4: five and me and my sister launched our Nice Girls 23 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 4: label back in June. That's been so fun and so 24 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 4: amazing and yeah, just getting ready for the holiday season. 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: It is Q four is kicking my ass. 26 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: What what has dating life been like for you? Are 27 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: you dating? 28 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 4: Uh? 29 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: So I have. 30 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 4: I have been dating. It's been really fun. But recently 31 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 4: I actually went on like what they call a stoop date. 32 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: And okay, I saw this. 33 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, so I just moved to Southie in 34 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: September and they have her name is Jules and she 35 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 4: does stoop dating, so she'll like people will apply and 36 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 4: then she'll like matchmake you before you know, like who 37 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 4: you're gonna be dating. It's like a blind date, but 38 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 4: on a stoop and Southie, like on her front steps. 39 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 4: And that went really well. It was fun, it was cute. 40 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 4: We went on a couple of dates afterwards. But unfortunately 41 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 4: he told me like he couldn't handle the people coming 42 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 4: up to him asking him questions, sending him DMS about me. 43 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 4: So I was like, totally understand, no hard feelings. 44 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 5: Gosh, that's so interesting. I I've wed weirdly enough. I've 45 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 5: never dated outside. Sorry, I'm just like my brain just 46 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 5: glitching because I'm just realizing that since I went on 47 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 5: the show, I never dated anyone not on. 48 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: The show, because I got engaged on the show. So 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: I've never experienced what it's like to date. After being 50 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: on reality television and. 51 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 5: The fact that people reach out to this person that 52 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 5: you've been on a few dates with is wild to me. 53 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's still, like, I think, 54 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 4: brand new for people to see me dating, and it 55 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: was a public you know, like dating podcast per se. 56 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 4: So I think people were invested and kind of wanted 57 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 4: to do their own research. I think I've learned and 58 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 4: I will be keeping my next relationship a little bit 59 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 4: more on the down low. 60 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. 61 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: I think if you, like, if you if you start 62 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: someone and then like six months down. 63 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 6: The road, like you post like a photo of like our. 64 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: Six month engagement, like, I don't think that would have 65 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: the same reaction opposed to like meeting somebody on like 66 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: a virtual right. 67 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 5: I guess that kind of opens the door because you're 68 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 5: sharing like, oh, I'm meeting this person and we might date, 69 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 5: and then it kind of opens the roof for people 70 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 5: feel comfortable commenting on it. 71 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, it's fair. 72 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 7: You know. 73 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: I assume when they started casting for this past season 74 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: of Paradise you were pretty like newly single, So I'm 75 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: assuming that's probably why you didn't do it. But if 76 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: they were to ask you to do the upcoming season, 77 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: would you? 78 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I'm far enough away from like kind 79 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: of the emotions of everything that I went through. It 80 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: was like challenging to even comprehend the thought of like 81 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: going on another dating reality show. But you know, I 82 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: learned a lot and I'm sitting here a better person 83 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: than I was before I went on. So I would 84 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: I would be interested. 85 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we'll see. 86 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 6: Okay. 87 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: So so let's say you agree. Mm hmm, you're packing 88 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: your bags. Yeah, what is your plan? 89 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 6: What do you? 90 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: What do you if you've you've seen Paradise before, I'm 91 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: assuming did you watch this last season? 92 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 2: I watched a little a little bit of it. 93 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so what's what's going through you? 94 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 6: What do you? What's the plan? 95 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: I think it's just to go in with like a 96 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 4: super open mind. You know, when you go on the Bachelor, 97 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: it's like you know who you're going for, so you're kind. 98 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: Of laser focused. 99 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 4: I think on like getting to know them and making 100 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: sure they know you. But I think I would hold 101 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 4: my cards a little bit closer to my chest and 102 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: just try and like get to know everybody, whether it's 103 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: on like a friendly level or something romantic that I 104 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 4: could see. I have no idea how I would do 105 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 4: with like those like physical challenges. To be honest, that 106 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 4: would probably send. 107 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: Me over the edge. 108 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 4: But if Gia Judice can be the queen of whatever 109 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 4: show she was just on where they really like tore 110 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 4: her down, like I feel like I could. 111 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 5: Forces Yes, I was like wait what and then yeah, 112 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 5: I that we didn't watch that season. We've only seen 113 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 5: a few episodes of that show. But that show is intense, 114 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 5: and you do have people that don't come out of 115 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 5: like sports backgrounds or Olympians or whatever that like do 116 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 5: go on and they just crush. 117 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: It, right, I know. 118 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: And I thought to myself, like, you know, seeing them 119 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 4: on Bachelor in Paradise, I was like, damn, it gave 120 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 4: me kind of like PTSD from the Basketball date. Like 121 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 4: I am not like a physical activity type of gal, 122 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 4: but like if you put me in those positions, I 123 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: guess like just something in me takes over. So I 124 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 4: feel like there's a slight chance I could have, like 125 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: you know, a chance at crushing it. 126 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 127 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 5: I'm curious to see if the formatting changes or stays 128 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 5: the same, or what ends up happening next season. 129 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: I think it changes. 130 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 3: I think it changes too. 131 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 5: Does that kind of play into your decision at all 132 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 5: of like, ooh, I could be walking into something that 133 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 5: I don't actually know what it is, because they did 134 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 5: kind of blindside them this season with like the competition element, 135 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 5: the money, the new format, all the things. 136 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, I mean regardless, I would be putting 137 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: myself in a like a new position and really just 138 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 4: trying to like go into it with, like I said, 139 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 4: an open mind for whatever comes my way. I don't 140 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,559 Speaker 4: know that if they, you know, announced they were changing 141 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 4: the format, if that would sway me one way or 142 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 4: the other. I think I would just have to be 143 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: in a mindset where I want to meet somebody from 144 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 4: within Bachelor Nation on a beach and just kind of 145 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 4: have fun with it. 146 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: Would you be okay with your ex being there? 147 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: That's how you guys met, right or well met on Paradise. 148 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: There was that situation, but yeah, that wasn't like you 149 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: you don't know going into it, So like, yeah, going 150 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: in the paradise. 151 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 6: You don't know. 152 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, you know, Grant comes 153 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: walking down. Is that yeah, could you handle that? 154 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 4: I like to think yes, but I you know, I 155 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 4: don't know what emotions kind of would come flooding out 156 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 4: of me if that was the case, if that like 157 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: came to reality, I'm sure my heart would like sink, 158 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 4: you know a little bit. And I know it would 159 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 4: be a bit uncomfortable to see him talking and kind 160 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 4: of forming those relationships. But then I would also be 161 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 4: like kind of self conscious about him seeing me do 162 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: that without trying to upset him, So it would be 163 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 4: really hard to navigate, to be quite honest, I would 164 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 4: probably pack up my stuff and go the minute his 165 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 4: like feet touched the sand. But that would just be 166 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 4: for my peace of mind. No bad blood, nothing of 167 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: like that nature. 168 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're good friends with Ali Joe, right. Yeah, she 169 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 5: didn't find love on the show, but it seems like 170 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 5: her and Sam em are. 171 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: Oh I was gonna ask are they still together? 172 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're doing great. You know, they're managing the long 173 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 4: distance really well. I just I see her glowing and 174 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: she seems really really happy. So I think Sam for 175 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 4: giving my girl a little love that she deserves. 176 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 5: I was bummed that they didn't cross pass because they 177 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 5: definitely were both going into the show interested in one another. 178 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 5: I mean they both had said it before filming on 179 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 5: this podcast, I think, so we were kind of waiting 180 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 5: to see them cross pass because I don't think it 181 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 5: was any secret that they were both interested in each other, 182 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 5: and obviously he was gone before she made her way, 183 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 5: so I was happy to see them connect after. 184 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. 185 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 4: Everything works out the way it's supposed to do, so 186 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: if they didn't meet on the beach, they were definitely 187 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: sure it's all going to make sure they met outside 188 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 4: the beach. 189 00:08:54,160 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, after the way everything played out for you, Hey, 190 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: do you are you in grant on good terms? 191 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 6: Do you guys talk or no? Just like whatever? 192 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: No, we don't talk. We have talked since the breakup, which. 193 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 4: Is I think why I got a little defensive when 194 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 4: he said we didn't, just because I didn't understand the 195 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 4: logic behind that. 196 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 2: But you know, we don't talk. 197 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 7: I wish him well, to be honest, if you could 198 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 7: go back to night one and be like a little 199 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 7: angel on your. 200 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: Shoulder, what would you tell yourself? What would you warn yourself? 201 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 7: Like? 202 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 2: Knowing what I know now, Yeah, ask more questions. 203 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 4: I think in the heat of the moment, you feel 204 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 4: like a lot of this is getting somebody to get. 205 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: To know you. 206 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 4: I don't think there's a too much focus on making 207 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 4: sure they know they you know who you are, so 208 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: you know, asking questions just about his goals, his life, dreams, 209 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 4: where he sees himself, you know, after all of this, 210 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 4: And to be quite frank, I don't think that even 211 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: if had I asked those questions that I would have gotten, 212 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 4: like not to say truthful answers, because that's like I 213 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 4: don't mean to say he's like lied or any of that. 214 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 4: I just mean I don't think he knew the answer 215 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: to those questions. So I don't know what answers he 216 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: would have given me, but I definitely would have just 217 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 4: tried to like poke the bear a little bit more 218 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 4: and try to make sure he knew my hopes and dreams. 219 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's that's really important. And I think you 220 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: make a good point because I don't think a lot 221 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: of people do that. And I didn't even really think 222 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: about that till we interviewed Pagan Mel. And that was 223 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: one of Mel's things about Peg was like she asked 224 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: me questions, a lot of questions about my family and 225 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: about myself. Yeah, And I think, yeah, well, because when 226 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: you're when you're a contestant, you're also like trying to 227 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: stand out amongst thirty other people, and it does become 228 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: this game of like I need to. 229 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 6: Let the lead know who I am. 230 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then everyone gets so long and then everyone's 231 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: like I don't even know this fucking guy. 232 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 6: Literally that's what happens. 233 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: So I think that's I think that's really common, and 234 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: I think that's something that like people should start doing more. 235 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so hard. 236 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 5: It's so hard to like figure out the best way 237 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 5: to make the most of your limited time on the show. 238 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: For sure. 239 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 4: And I mean, you know, there were things like afterwards, 240 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 4: like after filming, after the finale, I just like the 241 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: way I try to look at it is exactly that is, 242 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 4: like what what could I have done better for myself? 243 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 4: And there's a lot of things, you know, like hindsight's 244 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 4: the best, but I think I, you know, I let 245 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 4: myself down in a lot of ways throughout the whole process, 246 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 4: and that to me was like I think what hurt 247 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 4: I think the most honestly. 248 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 5: At what point after the finale were you kind of like, 249 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 5: maybe this isn't going as well as I had hoped 250 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 5: it would go, Like was it kind of a slow 251 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 5: decline or was it like what was that? 252 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 3: What did the breakup process kind of look like. 253 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: Honestly, you know, like I know, Grant and I have 254 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 4: tried like our very best to kind of keep a 255 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 4: lot of things under wraps, just because I know that 256 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: he cares about me, and I do care about him, 257 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 4: and I don't want him to have any negative backlash 258 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 4: by any means. But I think there's a little bit 259 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 4: of clarity do here where I will say I woke 260 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 4: up from the morning after. Wasn't the finale, the morning 261 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 4: after the finale, It was the next morning after we'd 262 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: through all of this press. I woke up and there 263 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 4: was some words exchanged between the two of us that 264 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 4: made me just feel completely alone and isolated and like 265 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: I didn't even know why I had tried to stick 266 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 4: around for as long as I did, and it was 267 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 4: like heartbreaking for me. Like that flight home from LA 268 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: was like my sister luckily was with me. She stayed 269 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: with me to do my glam for all the interviews, 270 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 4: but I couldn't have done it if she wasn't by 271 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: my side. 272 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: I was like depleted as a human. 273 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want to share what those words are? 274 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 5: No? 275 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: You don't have to, No, No, I mean I think. 276 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: The thing I would like to share is that, you know, 277 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 4: I had expressed some severe hurt, you know, and I 278 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 4: felt like I was kind of carrying a lot of 279 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 4: the emotions between both parties throughout the entire like watching 280 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 4: it back because I had a sports system, right and 281 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 4: I knew I could lean my people. 282 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 2: I was good. I could put my stuff on the 283 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 2: back burner till I needed to deal with it. 284 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 4: So like his mental headspace was like my top concern 285 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 4: because I cared about him and I wanted to make 286 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: sure he was okay, and he was getting a lot 287 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: of backlash, and ultimately, you know, I had watched things 288 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 4: back because I couldn't hear things like live in it light, 289 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: live time. I guess that what you want to call it. 290 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: But like I had watched things back, and I had 291 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: knew basically everything. Nothing Latia said had like struck a nerve. 292 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 4: I think it was just the matter of how it 293 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 4: was handled from his end and trying to get him 294 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: to take some accountability in that. And I was really 295 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 4: upset and I probably spoke out of anger and said 296 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 4: some really hurtful things that night before, and then when 297 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 4: we woke up, the first thing he said to me 298 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 4: was like he had gain planned like different ways we 299 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 4: could announce our breakup. And I hadn't even made that 300 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 4: decision and on my end, and I was supposed to 301 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 4: be leaving to go to La, I mean to come 302 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 4: home from LA and I was like, that's how we're 303 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: going to start this day and have this conversation. And 304 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 4: after everything I felt like I did for us and 305 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 4: putting myself on the back burner. 306 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: Like it's back to the optics. It's back to. 307 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: What people are going to think and like, not about 308 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 4: us and our relationship, it's what the outside world thinks. 309 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 4: And I just I couldn't handle that anymore. 310 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, the audience, I think it's hard. The audience sometimes 311 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 5: becomes a third person in your relationship. 312 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 313 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was rough. Yeah, that's very tough. 314 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 6: As we laughed, Okay, so we do. 315 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: I think Carolina did recently did a podcast Ben in 316 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: Ashley's podcast, Yeah almost famous. 317 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 5: Have you heard any clips from the podcast or anything 318 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 5: about what was said by her? 319 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: Uh? 320 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: No, I just I saw the teaser pop up on 321 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: my Instagram where she said she's gonna be very honest 322 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 4: about her thoughts on me. But you know, in the 323 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 4: nicest way possible, I simply do not care. I don't 324 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 4: have the time or energy to listen to what she 325 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 4: thinks of me, or how she felt I was, or 326 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 4: how you know, how she views me. I think that 327 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 4: you know, when she started to utilize my breakup as 328 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 4: a way for her to get some like clout online 329 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 4: or to kind of come back into the limelight and 330 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 4: speak her truth on our relationship and then go ahead 331 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 4: and text me to let me know that she was 332 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 4: strategically doing things online but private, privately wishing me well. 333 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: Again. 334 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: I say this in the nicest possible way, but in 335 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 4: the wise words of Taylor Frankie Paul, that's a snake 336 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 4: in the grass and I'm not a gardener, so she 337 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 4: can live there all she wants, but I'm not going 338 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 4: to take her out. 339 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: Do you watch Do you watch The Secret Lives of 340 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: Mormon Wives? 341 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: I don't really obsessed with it. Yeah, good on my 342 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: list of things like to watch. 343 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 4: Especially with Taylor being the new bachelorette, I like want 344 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 4: to know her. I think she's so cool and unique, 345 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 4: like for all the reasons, and so I'm excited. 346 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's going to be. 347 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 6: I think it's going to be. 348 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: Really, I think it's going to be a really good season. Yeah, 349 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: what was I going to ask? Who are you friends 350 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: with from your seasons or anyone that you actually still 351 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: talk to now? 352 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 2: Oh? 353 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I talked to Ali Joe, of course, I see 354 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 4: her quite a lot when I go to Florida. I 355 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 4: talked to Parisa and Beverly. You know, there's a few 356 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 4: girls that we just kind of like show love online, 357 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 4: don't like really text all that much. But you know, 358 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 4: I have love for all all the girls on the season, 359 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 4: and I'm silently all of their fans. 360 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 6: Are you and Latia good? Was there ever like beef with. 361 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 3: You guys, Like a conversation had between you guys? 362 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 4: No, I feel like I'm just like spilling all the 363 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 4: tea here today, But do it? You know, I think 364 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 4: it's not something I want to like talk too much 365 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 4: about because it's something I've like kind of healed and 366 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 4: moved on from, to be honest, But me and Latia's 367 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 4: relationship was pretty complicated from like the first ever FaceTime 368 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 4: we had. It was me her and Sarah Fina and 369 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: I'd spoken to like the other girls, and you know, 370 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 4: no one had like really confirmed or knew how it ended, 371 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 4: and everyone was treading so lightly and cautiously with me, 372 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 4: and I appreciate them all so much for that. And 373 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 4: her and I and Sarafina were doing the same thing, 374 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: just kind of like catching up. And then she sprung 375 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 4: it on me towards the end of the call that 376 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 4: you know, her producer had told her how everything ended. 377 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 4: And I was totally caught off guard, and I was like, 378 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 4: oh shit, like I haven't told any of the girls. 379 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: I hadn't even told Ali Joe. 380 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 4: I was just like so anxious, and I walked her 381 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 4: kind of through like everything that happened in the best 382 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 4: way that was like kind of the most polite. I 383 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 4: felt so uncomfortable and sad, but I knew she kind 384 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 4: of wanted to know, and I wanted to give her 385 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 4: maybe some closure with that, and I expressed that, you know, 386 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 4: I was really, really really anxious for the other girls 387 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 4: to find out. I didn't want it to deter you know, 388 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: our friendships. And she promised me, you know, she wouldn't 389 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 4: tell anybody, and she did, and she told multiple girls 390 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 4: and they called me and said, Lysia told me the news, 391 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 4: blah blah blah, and you know, they were all so 392 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 4: gracious about it, and it's not about the fact that 393 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 4: I didn't want them to know. It was just I 394 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: was in such a fragile kind of time frame right then, 395 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 4: and I was trying to find the words and also 396 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 4: understand everything I had just been through, and so I 397 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 4: think from there, I told my sister and I called 398 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 4: one of the producers, who she was like, there's no way, 399 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: you know, her producer would have. 400 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: Said that, and like that's a he said. 401 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: She said that, I don't ever think I'll care to 402 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: know the true truth of it all. But you know, 403 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 4: it rubbed me the wrong way, and it made me upset, 404 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 4: and it made me a little bit weary of the friendship. 405 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 4: And I try my best to like put myself in 406 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 4: her shoes. And I don't know that I would have 407 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 4: done that, but I could understand like the emotions driving 408 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 4: those behaviors. So I gave her grace with that, and 409 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 4: we continued to kind of just have a you know, 410 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 4: friendship at arms distance, and towards the end of things, 411 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 4: I was texting her, you know, saying you did great, 412 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 4: Like this can't be easy, you know, I wish you well, 413 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 4: And I texted her before the live show being like, 414 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 4: you know, at least we get to. 415 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: Like serve on stage together one last time, like, I. 416 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 4: Know it's going to be really hard, and she didn't answer, 417 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 4: and I think that's when I started to kind of 418 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 4: sense I was unsure of the magnitude of her feelings 419 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 4: about it all, and I wasn't going to intrude myself 420 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: in her healing process or prevent her or make her 421 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 4: feel like she couldn't speak her truth because we had 422 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: a relationship. So I thought it was best to kind 423 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 4: of like withdraw myself, and that's what I did. 424 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, damn, what show were you on? 425 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: This is a did you ever think when you like 426 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: signed up for this and when you got ready to 427 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: go on, did you ever think like this would be 428 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: your experience? Because it is pretty I mean, it sounds 429 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: pretty heavy. Like as we're asking you all these questions, 430 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, damn, yes, this this kind of sucked. 431 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, you know it, It felt like it did 432 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: in the moment, and like I'm not lying when I 433 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 4: like was a shell of a human for a little bit. 434 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 4: After the finale and even throughout watching it all back, 435 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 4: I totally disassociated and just was like I just got 436 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: to get through it. 437 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: I just got to get through it and then I 438 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: can figure my shit out, you know. 439 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 4: But it was it can end in all sort of ways, 440 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 4: right Like sometimes they never they don't get engaged to either. 441 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 4: Sometimes you know, it's it's you. Sometimes it's not. 442 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes it gets sent home night one. So I kind 443 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: of just went in being like, I really hope this 444 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: is all awesome. 445 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 4: It was when we came back from filming when things 446 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 4: started to get all weird and like uncomfortable, and I 447 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 4: was like, what, like can I like opt out? Like 448 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 4: can we just like end this season early? Like I'm good, 449 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 4: Like don't show me on TV anymore. Like I appreciated 450 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 4: all the like love and support that I got because 451 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 4: that was like insanely overwhelming in the. 452 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: Best way possible. 453 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 4: But it doesn't really mean as much when you're internally 454 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 4: fighting like some hard battles, and I felt like it 455 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 4: was just one thing after the other. 456 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you got hit with a lot. What did 457 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 3: your healing journey look like? 458 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: Just surrounding myself with my people again. 459 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 4: I think a really cool thing about why I wanted 460 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 4: to come back to Boston after all of this was 461 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 4: because you know, Newton in particular is a place that 462 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 4: shaped me as a person, as a daughter, as a. 463 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: Friend, and all these things. 464 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: And I think Boston is a little underrated in a 465 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 4: lot of like categories from fashion to entrepreneurship businesses, and 466 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: you know, I think the healing part of me was 467 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 4: the ability to give back to my community. 468 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: You know, small side stories. 469 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 4: My dad started at a Honda village in Newton Corner 470 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 4: as a valet, like over forty years ago, and he 471 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 4: worked his way up to he's now the general manager 472 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: there and his favorite thing is like giving back and 473 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 4: he's making a change in like the lives of people 474 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 4: he sees on a daily basis. And I think that 475 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 4: that was my goal and he is my role model. 476 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 4: So I just really locked in on like, Okay, now 477 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: I have, you know, over one hundred thousand people that 478 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 4: care about me, what can I do? And it was 479 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 4: I can give back to the people that helped me 480 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 4: get here. And that was just I think what I 481 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 4: like dove into. And luckily my sister and I had 482 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 4: you know, the brand and the platform of nice Girls 483 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 4: labeled to show up to all these really amazing fundraisers 484 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 4: and galas and sure like the notoriety from the Bachelor's 485 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 4: Maybe what they wanted me therefore invited me from and 486 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 4: I'm so thankful for that. 487 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: But when I was there, it wasn't back lurgely on. 488 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 4: It was trying to spread the message of like kindness, 489 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 4: inclusivity and just like loving yourself. 490 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: Through the mission of Nice Girl's Label. 491 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 4: And I think that that has helped kill me tenfold 492 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 4: because it's making me focus on really positive and healthy things. 493 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: Would you consider so? Yeah, I mean that all makes sense. 494 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: And I think like going back and like being in 495 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: Boston where you're from and around your friends and family 496 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: is like really important because it's just okay, like this 497 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: is my this is this is real life. Like everything 498 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: else was just kind of like this experiment that I 499 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: did that didn't really pan out. But let's say you were, 500 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: hypothetically you were to go on paradise and you do 501 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: meet someone and he lives in Wyoming. 502 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, are you are you can we go like Chicago, 503 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 3: New or. 504 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 6: He lives in Chicago? Like are you are you. 505 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: Willing to potentially move for someone else? Or is it 506 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: like I want you to come to Boston. 507 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 4: No, I think that I'm open. I think that you know, 508 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 4: Boston will always be my home. But like home in 509 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: the sense of where I feel like most at ease. 510 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 4: And I think that if somebody is willing to include 511 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: me in their life, in their home, like of course, 512 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 4: I would give them the opportunity to show me that. 513 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: It just would have to be. It would have to 514 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: make sense. 515 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 4: I you know, I also had a nine to five, 516 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 4: and I have a nine to five that keeps me 517 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 4: kind of locked in at Boston, and I'm and so 518 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 4: like a lot of things would have to change. But 519 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 4: it's not to say that I'm so dead set like 520 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 4: never leaving. 521 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: Like shoot, I want to move to Florida. You know, 522 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure that out. Like, but I'm open. 523 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 6: Nice. 524 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say, before we get close to 525 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 5: wrapping up here, is there anything else in terms of 526 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 5: like the perception of you, your relationship rumors you've seen 527 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 5: online comments people have made that you want to clear 528 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 5: up or address what we have you here. 529 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's only one thing, and it's it's kind of shitty. 530 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: But I think that. 531 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: Taking away the breakup and the public kind of going 532 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 4: through being in the public eye, the ups and downs 533 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 4: of that, I think that the one thing that really 534 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 4: hurt my feelings the most and was disheartening was when 535 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 4: Letia went on a podcast and insinuated things about my 536 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 4: sex life, and then Zoe chimed in in the comments 537 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 4: online to basically confirm that Letia was talking about me, 538 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 4: to make sure people knew that. I only say that 539 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 4: because I think it was such a dagger and it 540 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 4: added fuel to this fire of she was the easy choice. 541 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 4: You know, he chose lust over love, and I think 542 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 4: it was so embarrassing for me to deal with that, 543 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 4: and I was embarrassed for my family. I was embarrassed 544 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 4: for my employer. I was mortified that, you know, people 545 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 4: that didn't know me would think that I, you know, 546 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 4: slept with this man just to get a ring on 547 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 4: my finger or to win a reality show. I think that, truly, 548 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 4: if I was her, I would be embarrassed for saying that, 549 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: because I think as women we do have to stick together, 550 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 4: and of course there's gonna be little tidbits here and there, 551 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 4: and things we don't agree on and hate spread whether 552 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 4: we like it or not. 553 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: But to bring another sex another. 554 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 4: Woman's sex life into a public eye conversation when she 555 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 4: didn't hear it from the source and heard it through 556 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 4: the Grapevine and doubled down on it in the last 557 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: podcast she did that I probably should have listened to, 558 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 4: but I had my sister do the recon on that 559 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 4: is it's. 560 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: Disheartening, and it's it's. 561 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 4: I don't I'm not calling her ugly, but it's ugly 562 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 4: behavior and that's not the case, and that wasn't the case. 563 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 4: And I would just love to put that to bed 564 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 4: so that she can stop talking about it and I 565 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 4: can stop getting dms calling me some uncomfortable names because 566 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 4: somebody is out there saying that I'm sleeping around to 567 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 4: get a ring. 568 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: Well, now that we're on the topic of Lousteau, are 569 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: there any guys in bachelination that you would be interested 570 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: in in potentially dating? 571 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, let's let's Will you give us tea? 572 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: You can't give us all, but you could give us 573 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: how about this, give us initials. 574 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: Or see the season that they were from. 575 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm bad the seasons. I can't do that. I don't, 576 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 4: I don't, I don't know it like that. 577 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 6: Okay, but you can give her about this. 578 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: Just I'll go as easy as a last name initial. 579 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: That's not gonna do anything for anyone. 580 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: And if and if I guess it, and if I guess, 581 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: you got to tell me I'm right. Oh that this 582 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: is a crazy game. 583 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 5: She's gonna give you one letter of the alphabet and 584 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 5: you're gonna guess out of the hundreds of men from 585 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 5: this franchise, which when she's interested. 586 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 6: In Yeah, let's go. 587 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: Okay, M. 588 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: Like maybe. 589 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Joe, thank you 590 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: so much for coming on. 591 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 6: We really appreciate it. 592 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: And yeah, this was fun. Thank you, Thank you so much. 593 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 4: I was so surprised when you guys said you want 594 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 4: to be on because it feels like we're such old news. 595 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: Now, you know, never old news. 596 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 3: Never old news. 597 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 5: Everyone's still chatting about it. So we had to bring 598 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 5: you on. And thank you so much for being open 599 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 5: and vulnerable, and we're wishing you all the best in 600 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 5: your healing journey. 601 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 3: We hope to see you in paradise maybe in the future. 602 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much. 603 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: Appreciate and to our listeners, thank you guys so much 604 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: for tuning in the Better Happy Hour. Make sure you 605 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: download and subscribe to the podcast. 606 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 3: We will have new, in specive interviews for you every 607 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: single week. Thanks for listening. 608 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 6: Bye.