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Speaker 2: Jason Martin, good to be with you, Bud so No

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Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard in La. But the story is the Clippers

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Speaker 2: are leading by twenty four points in the early going

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Speaker 2: of the second half as Dallas has not shown up

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Speaker 2: offensively at all ice cold all game long. This is craziness.

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Speaker 1: It is look neither one of these two games to

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Speaker 1: start today have been particularly good. But yeah, you anticipated

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Speaker 1: this one. At the very least it was going to

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Speaker 1: be more of a shootout because Dallas was gonna keep

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Speaker 1: on shooting, which they have been. They just can't make anything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kyrie ees three of eight now they're into

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Speaker 1: the third but Doncic has thirteen points on fourteen shots.

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Speaker 1: That is not going to get it done. And it

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Speaker 1: looks as if like if you were just to look

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Speaker 1: at the score, you would think that Kawhi has to

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Speaker 1: be playing, and that is that is not a particularly

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Speaker 1: positive thing to say if you're a Mavericks fan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, not at all. And rough we see this

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Speaker 2: all the time in the regular season, right We'll see

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Speaker 2: a team that's down a star, maybe it's load management,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's an injury thing, and the other team they

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Speaker 2: might have a matchup advantage like crazy on paper. And

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Speaker 2: in the regular season, we'll see the team that is healthier,

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Speaker 2: that has the matchup advantage, that has the personnel advantage.

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Speaker 2: They just aren't focused and they go through the motions

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Speaker 2: and they get beaten. But you don't see this as

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Speaker 2: often in the playoffs. This is Game one on the road,

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Speaker 2: and Dallas comes out as if they're like, no, Kawhi,

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Speaker 2: We're good. It's almost like the NCD tournament were like

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Speaker 2: the fourteen seed advances and you're like, nice, we're in

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Speaker 2: the sweet sixteen, and you don't show up, You're not focused.

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Speaker 2: That's the way Dallas has looked all day today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they have and I'm still kind of

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if I would call it wait

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Speaker 1: and see on Dallas because I just don't think they

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Speaker 1: are built to be a particularly great playoff team. I

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Speaker 1: just don't because I think they're too streaky. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you would expect that donci Is is gonna get his

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Speaker 1: but I just look at it and think they're probably

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Speaker 1: not long for the playoffs. I don't know. I just

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Speaker 1: don't know about their makeup generally. But again, they can't

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Speaker 1: shoot like this. I mean, this is it's almost unwatchably

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Speaker 1: bad at this stage of the game. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: feels already over, even though they do have the firepower

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Speaker 1: to try and potentially get back into it. But if

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Speaker 1: you just look at the efficiency numbers and the plus

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Speaker 1: minus ratio between the Clippers and the Mavericks overall, it

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Speaker 1: is disgusting. Like you've got three of the starters on

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Speaker 1: the floor for for Dallas with at least a minus thirteen,

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Speaker 1: so you got a minus thirteen to two minus nineteen.

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Speaker 1: So then on the other side you got plus fourteen

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Speaker 1: plus sixteen, plus twenty one plus twenty plus fourteen, and

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Speaker 1: two guys on the bench including Russell Westbrook. Might I

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Speaker 1: add plus fourteen and plus fourteen like you're getting from

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Speaker 1: Harden and Russell Westbrook in this game, you have thirty

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Speaker 1: three points. You only have five from Paul George and

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Speaker 1: you're up sixty one to thirty nine. The stats do

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Speaker 1: not indicate just how badly Dallas has looked in this game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that's if I just gave you part of

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Speaker 2: the information and said, hey, no, Kawhi, we're about three

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Speaker 2: minutes into the second half, Paul George has five points.

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Speaker 2: What do you think the score of the game is.

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Speaker 2: You're definitely not saying, oh, Clippers ahead by twenty two.

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Speaker 1: I probably would say Dallas is up like fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it, and it's it's just been a

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Speaker 2: complete swing there. As you said, just ice cold from

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Speaker 2: the floor and Dallas they're thirteen for forty five. They're

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Speaker 2: shooting at a twenty nine percent clip.

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Speaker 1: Nice cruising three for nineteen from beyond the arc two

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Speaker 2: And the thing with Kawhi Leonard is the question becomes

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Speaker 2: when do you get him back? He missed the final

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Speaker 2: eight games of the regular season. I love this description

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Speaker 2: from the Clippers. He's got stubborn and unpredictable inflammation.

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Speaker 1: That's that right there is the most I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: just Kawhi Leonard, like, that's not about I mean, actually,

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Speaker 1: you know what, you can add inflammation to it too.

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Speaker 1: But all of what you just said could actually just

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Speaker 1: be on his Wikipedia page and that could just be

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Speaker 1: the description of him overall. I've never heard a better

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Speaker 1: descriptor of Kawhi Leonard in my life than the sentence

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, no doubt it's the knee inflammation, but stubborn

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Speaker 2: and unpredictable. Yeah, it's more of a Kawhi thing than

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Speaker 2: the inflammation. Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's weird. I mean, this stuff with

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Speaker 1: Kawha is just interesting anyway from so many Like there's

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Speaker 1: that possibility he might play on the Olympic team, And

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Speaker 1: we were talking about this last night and it was

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Speaker 1: just if you're a Clippers fan, how could you watch

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Speaker 1: that with a straight face? Like, if he can't play

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Speaker 1: for my team in the playoffs, then he needs to

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Speaker 1: shut it down. I don't need to see him in

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Speaker 1: the Olympics. Put somebody else in as the twelfth man.

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Speaker 1: Can he at least play the crucial games for my team?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a rough deal, because man, you think about

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Speaker 2: that with Yannis, we wonder when we're gonna see Yannis

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Speaker 2: in the series against the Pacers if at all he's

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Speaker 2: got a calf strain, and man, that's really dicey when

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Speaker 2: you start getting into that territory. And it hasn't been

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Speaker 2: that long. Yanni's just missed the final three games of

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Speaker 2: And then when he's playing in the Olympics. I get it.

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Speaker 2: As a Bucks fan, you might be like, Eh, he

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Speaker 2: couldn't play for US, but he's played for his country.

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Speaker 2: It's a rough deal. Is Jimmy Did Jimmy Butler make

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Speaker 2: the Olympic team as well?

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Speaker 1: That's a good question. I need to look that up.

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Speaker 2: To say he did. I should know that, but we'll

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Speaker 2: get that to you. I think he might be on there.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's tough, man. I get it if

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Speaker 2: it's one of these deals. And listen, Jimmy Butler is

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Speaker 2: an absolute warrior. If Kelly Ubray just lands on his leg,

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Speaker 2: there's really nothing you can do about that. I don't

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Speaker 2: think any Miami Heat fan would be reasonably bent if

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Speaker 2: he's playing for Team USA and not the Miami Heat.

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Speaker 2: But uh man, that's a that's a rough deal with

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Speaker 2: uh No, I don't think he did make it. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: we don't have to worry about Jimmy Buckets and the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: There we got let's see your front, your your backcourt.

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Speaker 2: You've got Staph Drew Holliday, Halliburton, Devin Booker, Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 1: I mean they still I mean as much as like

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, I think they're gonna be okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Be one one would think. I think just the roster

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Speaker 1: seems like it stacks up pretty well with the rest

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think I would favor them over you know,

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Speaker 2: like Latvia or you know, Grease. I'll take Team USA

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Speaker 1: But we got a twenty nine point game like this

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Speaker 1: is just pathetic, that's.

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Speaker 2: Brutal, man, that's I stayed away from the end game

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Speaker 2: betting Jane Martin. I think it would be proud of

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Speaker 2: me there because I'm like, the maps can't stay this

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Speaker 2: ice cold, and I'm like it was plus eight and

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Speaker 2: I'm not interested in that whatsoever. And it looks like

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Speaker 2: probably the right way to go. Anything else NBA playoff wise,

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Speaker 2: that has really stood out to you, that's interested to you.

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Speaker 2: I loved Anthony Edwards and his performance. He went crazy

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Speaker 2: his favorite player of all time. That was a fun moment.

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Speaker 2: There haven't been great games as of yet, but the

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Speaker 2: Denver comeback last night against the Lakers was pretty good,

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Speaker 2: pretty entertaining game, but nothing just incredibly captivating just yet.

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Speaker 1: No, Yeah, I mean it's real early and these series,

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Speaker 1: I think go on forever. These playoffs, it feels like

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Speaker 1: they never end.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of good basketball. So get you get

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Speaker 1: to now, you get to kind of see stories within

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Speaker 1: all of these different series. The things that stood out

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Edwards, that would probably be my number one

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Speaker 1: takeaway from yesterday. And just on the flip side, I

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Speaker 1: was not a fan of the Sun's move originally to

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Speaker 1: in order to acquire a guy who did what Devin

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Speaker 1: another guy not exactly known for his defense. And then

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Speaker 1: when they go out there last night and they're not

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Speaker 1: a failed experiment. I look at that, it was just

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Speaker 1: was happening because when you acquired him, Brian, you were

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Speaker 1: acquiring him to win now, and not only did you

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Speaker 1: not win last year, you're not gonna win this year.

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Speaker 1: He's getting older, and he has a ton of basketball miles,

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Speaker 1: not to mention some pretty considerable injury history as well.

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't look too good for the Suns at all.

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Speaker 1: And you look at the rest of the West, they're

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Speaker 1: getting younger while you're getting older. I don't. And the

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Speaker 1: same thing's true in Golden State, same thing's true with

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. It's very much and very clearly a change,

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Speaker 2: Man, and you look at kd it hasn't been great

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Speaker 2: after his Warrior stints, no, you know, and I hate

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Speaker 2: that he had, you know, the big toe on the

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Speaker 2: line with the long two against the Bucks. Who knows

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Speaker 2: how things shake out if they're able to survive that series,

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Speaker 2: because the Bucks went on to win a championship there,

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Speaker 2: but that was some bad luck. But the rest of it,

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Speaker 2: the body of Warwick has been really bad for Kevin

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Speaker 2: Durant's teams in the playoffs after his Warriors stint there.

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Speaker 2: And look, man, the people that keep pointing this out,

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Speaker 2: you have a stronger lake to stand on. The more

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Speaker 2: that the playoff disappointments moued up and that was just

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Speaker 2: game one. You lost game one on the road. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be possibly a longer series. And Devin Booker, he's

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Speaker 2: I love the NFL draft rumors. This is a great

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear this. I'm not sure I've

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Speaker 1: Based on statistics throughout history that it doesn't generally work. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is where it just seems

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't disagree with that, but maybe there's

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Speaker 1: a reason for it. The thing that would bother me

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Speaker 1: or worry me is, you know, the Patriots need a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and they need a franchise quarterback. They need a guy

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Speaker 1: that can be there for them for the long haul.

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Speaker 1: If they trade out of three when May is sitting there, yeah,

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Speaker 1: then that means they didn't evaluate May high enough. Because

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Speaker 1: if they're then going to say, well, the difference between

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Speaker 1: May and X quarterback is this, so we're willing to

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Speaker 1: do this, then what does that say? I mean, one

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Speaker 1: of those teams ends up being very wrong in that estimation,

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Speaker 1: one would think, because if the Vikings then had stayed

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Speaker 1: where they are and the Patriots quarterback at eleven, for example,

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Speaker 1: if they were to move back in that spot, if

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Speaker 1: he ended up being better then what you would get

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Speaker 1: from Trake May at three for example for the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: then it would just seem like, boy, what a horrible

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Speaker 1: decision that was. So I don't know, but I also

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Speaker 1: know that the Vikings absolutely have to get a quarterback

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Speaker 1: in this draft, and they're gonna take one with their

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Speaker 1: first pick. And I say that as a Denver Broncos

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Speaker 1: fan that holds the pick right behind them that doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the same level of capital to offer in terms

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Speaker 1: of those kind of picks this quickly. Now, could they

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Speaker 1: offer two first in coming years? Yes, And I've seen,

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Speaker 1: you know, several people suggest that that's exactly what they

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Speaker 1: are going to do. And then I've seen I don't

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Speaker 1: believe this, but saying there's seven or eight starting quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in this draft that coming from the Broncos front office.

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Speaker 1: I don't buy that. I don't think that's true. But

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Speaker 1: if that's how they evaluate it, then it's deeper than

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Speaker 1: we think. But we're seeing increasingly people say in the

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Speaker 1: top four picks are going to be quarterbacks. I asked

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Speaker 1: this last night. But how many how many times, Brian,

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Speaker 1: do you think that the first four picks in the

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Speaker 1: NFL draft have been quarterbacks?

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's ever happened.

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Speaker 1: That's correct. It's happened three times, one two, three, But

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Speaker 1: it has never happened one two, three four this It

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Speaker 1: seems crazy to me that it would be this year

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Speaker 1: when you I just McCarthy, the McCarthy May thing. One

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Speaker 1: of those guys has to drop in my estimation. But

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Speaker 1: we'll see. Maybe maybe this is the year where that's

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Speaker 1: going to happen. I just there's gonna have there's I

476
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Speaker 1: think there's gonna be some massive maneuvering going on early.

477
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Speaker 1: There's gonna be some teams that are just gonna try

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Speaker 1: something in terms of the quarterback room. I see that

479
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Speaker 1: the Patriots might draft might trade out of three, so

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Speaker 1: maybe that is the spot for Minnesota. I just think

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Speaker 1: giving up three first rounders to get Drake May seems

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Speaker 1: like that just seems like you are wagering an awful

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Speaker 1: lot on something that I just are all the scouts wrong,

484
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Speaker 1: that there are some major flaws here that you know

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be room, and you wish he would have

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Speaker 1: another year or a year to sit because he's not

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Speaker 1: gonna have any time. If he goes to Minnesota, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna start immediately, and I don't know, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's the best scenario for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I love the rumor that would be. That's

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Speaker 2: a great major move. Yeah, the Vikings jump up to

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Speaker 2: number three overall, make a deal with the Patriots and

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Speaker 2: they get Drake May. We'll have some more draft stuff

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Speaker 2: for you here. First, though, Kevin wired to spin us around.

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Speaker 2: What's going on, keV? What do we need to be

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Speaker 2: aware of here?

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Speaker 7: Bud Well, The number one thing going on right now

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Speaker 7: is Kawhi who to LA Clippers, despite not having Kawhi

499
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Speaker 7: Leonard absolutely demolishing the Dallas Mavericks.

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Speaker 6: It's ninety to.

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Speaker 7: Seventy two with eight and a half minutes ago in

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Speaker 7: the fourth quarter, as La getting contributions from James Harden.

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Speaker 7: He's five to nine from beyond the three point line,

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Speaker 7: seven to fifteen for the game. That's good for twenty

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Speaker 7: three points if it's a zoo box a double double.

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Speaker 7: Twenty points, fourteen rebounds. Paul George Forriz Park also with

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Speaker 7: eleven points. Russell Westbrook coming off the benches five of eight,

508
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Speaker 7: shooting thirteen points overall. In the Dallas Mavericks, it's been

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Speaker 7: the exact opposite game for them.

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Speaker 6: Kyrie Irving has come on strong in this second half.

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Speaker 7: He had a really quiet first half, but Luka Doncic

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Speaker 7: twenty five points, twelve rebounds. Besides those two guys, they've

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Speaker 7: gotten almost no help whatsoever as PJ. Washington nine points

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Speaker 7: for the game, but you got Tim Hardaway with six

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Speaker 7: points and.

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Speaker 6: A couple other guys with three.

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Speaker 7: It's really been a rough going at it for Dallas,

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Speaker 7: as they've shot just thirty eight point two percent for

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Speaker 7: the game. With that's an improvement over what it was

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Speaker 7: earlier in the first half of just eight to twenty seven.

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Speaker 7: Also an improvement from where it was as a eight

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Speaker 7: of twenty seven for three pointers for the game. So

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Speaker 7: far Celtics and Miami, he won fourteen to ninety four.

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Speaker 7: Boston wins this one going away as Jason Tatum a

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Speaker 7: triple double twenty three points, ten rebounds, ten assists. We

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Speaker 7: had several guys contributed for Boston double figure scores, include

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Speaker 7: Derek White, he had twenty points for Boston. Jalen Brown

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Speaker 7: had seventeen Sam Howser off the bench, had twelve points

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Speaker 7: on four to six from three point christophs Porzingis eighteen points,

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Speaker 7: even Al Horford ten points.

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Speaker 6: He's turning back the clock.

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Speaker 7: He had four of eight shooting as Boston takes a

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Speaker 7: one to nothing series lead in this best of seven

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Speaker 7: first round. In the NHL Capitals and Rangers at Madison

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Speaker 7: Square Garden, they got thirteen minutes left in that contest,

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Speaker 7: the Rangers ahead in this one, three to one. It

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Speaker 7: was an all Sunshine State affair in the first game

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Speaker 7: of the day Eastern Conference First Round Game one, Lightning

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Speaker 7: and Panthers, as Florida wins it three too, although they

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Speaker 7: did take a three to one lead late in the

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Speaker 7: game before the Lightning unmatched it so the Panthers in

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Speaker 7: command for much of that contest. Coming up later at

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Speaker 7: seven o'clock Eastern time, Avalanche will face the Jets up

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Speaker 7: in Winnipeg Major League Baseball several games going on right

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Speaker 7: now as we speak to Dodgers man taking out their

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Speaker 7: frustration on the Mets here in this third game after

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Speaker 7: dropping the first two, they're up ten to nothing against

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Speaker 7: New York at the end of the fifth inning. Blue

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Speaker 7: Jays and Padres tied at two. They're in the six Giants,

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Speaker 7: leaving the Diamondbacks two to one at top of the six.

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Speaker 7: In San Francisco, Rareners and Rockies. Yeah, coors Field, believe

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Speaker 7: it or not, they're still scoreless through almost eight innings.

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Speaker 7: They're in the bottom of the eighth inning with two outs.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, they say, no lead is safe at coors Field.

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Speaker 7: But no humid or must be doing its work today

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Speaker 7: because no score. And they do have another game coming

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Speaker 7: up after this later tonight eight o'clock Eastern. The other

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Speaker 7: game coming up this evening, the esp In Sunday night

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Speaker 7: game Rangers and Braves, seven o'clock over in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: That's you, guys.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: keV Brian No and Jason Martin with you here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. You know you mentioned this, Jason, You're

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Speaker 2: a Broncos fan. We've talked about this extensively. But what

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Speaker 2: are you hoping for, right like first round quarterbacks to

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Speaker 2: get all this JJ McCarthy news and rumors, and what

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Speaker 2: are you realistically hoping for?

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Speaker 1: I honestly don't know. I hope they do. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like I think that I've resigned myself that you know,

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Speaker 1: the bow Knicks thing I guess is out there because

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Speaker 1: there's a comparison to Drew Brees in some ways, and

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Speaker 1: maybe that would fit what Sean Payton wants to do.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea McCarty like going up to get McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: I just think McCarthy to use that Daniel Jones of

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Speaker 1: energy thing we did earlier. He's giving me some Zach

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Speaker 1: Wilson energy, just in terms of the height. It's not

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Speaker 1: not how he plays or who he is or anything

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Speaker 1: like that. Attitude and Noily, I like everything I've seen

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Speaker 1: from JJ McCarthy. The thing I don't like is I

580
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: haven't seen enough football from him. I haven't seen enough

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Speaker 1: of him having to go win games. And I am

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Speaker 1: skeptical of all that i've heard, just that all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden he's going to be all world. It just

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Speaker 1: I don't buy it. Not at this stage. I need

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Speaker 1: to see more so to go up and get him.

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Speaker 1: I just can't imagine that. If you're Denver So then

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Speaker 1: you're looking at Appenix, or you're looking at maybe again

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Speaker 1: a bow Knicks or a Day two guy or somebody

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Speaker 1: you know a little bit further down. They've got to

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Speaker 1: have somebody I don't think you just come back out

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Speaker 1: with Jared Stidham and somebody you don't expect to be

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Speaker 1: a starter for you down the road, Like I don't

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Speaker 1: think that you can do that. There's nobody else you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to go and acquire at this stage.

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Speaker 1: So I tend to think that they're still going to

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Speaker 1: find a way they do. If they want to wager

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of the future, they can get up.

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Speaker 1: But if they go up for McCarthy, I'm gonna, you know,

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Speaker 1: cross my fingers and be optimistic about it. And then

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Speaker 1: in the back of my head, I'm gonna say, boy,

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Speaker 1: I hope this is not another disaster, because it could be.

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Speaker 1: That's again, quarterbacks come at a major premium right now,

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Speaker 1: and I just don't know if trading up at this

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Speaker 1: stage for those guys is worth it with with just

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Speaker 1: how many of them don't get it done. It's just

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Speaker 1: the hit rate is like twenty percent for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Man, that's my thing with man with JJ McCarthy to

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Speaker 2: move up and the price tag for him, that's And

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Speaker 2: think about this too. Compare the price tag for where

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Speaker 2: the Broncos are if they move up to get JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: We know it's gonna take a ton or if they're

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Speaker 2: able to get bow Nicks later in the draft, like

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Speaker 2: completely different price tags, right, And do you see the

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Speaker 2: gap between those two quarterbacks being the same, because I don't.

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Speaker 2: The price tag is way different than the separation. I

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Speaker 2: don't even know if JJ McCarthy is clearly separating himself

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Speaker 2: from bow Nicks. There's a lot of you know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, like uh, like guestimating if you will, Like, hey,

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Speaker 2: he's on an undefeated team and hey, they ran the

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Speaker 2: ball a lot and relied on their defense. And it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we get it, but how how does guestimating help you

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Speaker 2: sleep better at night?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Chris purfets on the show with this technical producer and

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Speaker 2: he said a few minutes ago, he's like, this guy

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Speaker 2: played at Southern Myss. We'd never be talking about him.

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Speaker 2: That's right, and it's true. So yes it is, man,

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Speaker 2: if I'm a Broncos fan or one of these teams

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Speaker 2: that moves up to get J. J. McCarthy, and that

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Speaker 2: is a significant price tag, yeh, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 2: especially the Broncos, who are you know, draft capital strapped

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Speaker 2: as it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you'd better be you better be absolutely positive.

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Speaker 1: It can't be ninety nine percent and I and I

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Speaker 1: saw this argument in the same article I was referencing

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Speaker 1: earlier from ESPN and they were discussing going up and

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Speaker 1: how it doesn't work Astley if you look at it

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Speaker 1: by the numbers, like you'll hear the you'll hear the

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Speaker 1: GM after the factor. The coach when they're being interviewed

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Speaker 1: say yeah, man, we had to go up to get

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Speaker 1: our guy. But that's what everybody's gonna do. I mean,

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Speaker 1: everybody's gonna say that same thing. We had to go

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Speaker 1: up because he was our guy. We had to go

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Speaker 1: get our guy. Well, I know he's your guy. That's

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Speaker 1: why you wagered assets to go get him. Like you don't.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to say that. I don't look at

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Speaker 1: dij McCarthy say he's our guy. Like again, I would

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Speaker 1: cross my fingers and hope that it turns out great.

649
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Speaker 1: And again, I really like him as a young man

650
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Speaker 1: and everything I've heard him say in his competitive streak

651
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Speaker 1: and what people say about him, all of that is positive.

652
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: That don't win games, though, Like I needed to see

653
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Speaker 1: more of him at Michigan. Not having that defense, that

654
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: offensive play calling, and that ability to run the football.

655
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Speaker 1: He just he wasn't called into into duty that often.

656
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: Now when he was, he made He made a couple

657
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Speaker 1: of outstanding plays in the Ohio State game and a

658
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: couple of big time he throws into college football playoff.

659
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Speaker 1: But it's gonna take more than that in the NFL, Like,

660
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: it's not going to go that well, it's not going

661
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: to go that easily for him. He is actually going

662
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Speaker 1: to have to do a lot of the heavy lifting

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Speaker 1: from the quarterback spot. And I just haven't seen enough

664
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Speaker 1: to feel that good. And I don't care how good

665
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Speaker 1: his pro day was, because that stuff's not transferable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, he reminds me more of Mac Jones,

667
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Speaker 2: just from this standpoint.

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Speaker 1: Sure remember yeah, sure, that's a good comparison.

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Speaker 2: When Mac went fifteenth overall to the Patriots. Remember they

670
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: didn't move up and he just fell to them, and

671
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: they were like, well, you know, it's worth the risk,

672
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Speaker 2: let's just take him here. I feel the same way

673
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Speaker 2: about JJ McCarthy, where if he fell to you and

674
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: you didn't have to move up to get him, I

675
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: understand why a team would do it, but to move up,

676
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: you know, seven spaces, but you know eight spots if

677
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: you will right to get that guy and knowing the

678
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Speaker 2: price tag. Man, I don't know about that. I know,

679
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Speaker 2: and I don't want to shut the door. I've said

680
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: this many times. I don't want to shut the door

681
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 2: on the possibility that he could grow and be a

682
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Speaker 2: good pro just because he wasn't asked to do a

683
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: ton in college. Some people have made that jump, right

684
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: j Mart where they're like, well, he can't do it.

685
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: It's like, well, we don't know that for sure. He

686
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 2: just wasn't asked to do it. But what I know

687
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: is I don't feel comfortable moving up and paying that

688
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 2: price tag when I haven't seen it yet. But there's

689
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: probably going to be a team that does it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there will be. And that's the point, like

691
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: he absolutely could be that guy. He could be, but

692
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: no one has evidence to prove that that's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean that from the standpoint if we

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Speaker 1: don't know what these guys are going to do in

695
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Speaker 1: the pros. We didn't see evidence of it in college

696
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Speaker 1: because he didn't have to do it. They went undefeated,

697
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: but they could have gone undefeated with other people at

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Speaker 1: quarterback than him, based on the way that the team

699
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Speaker 1: was set up and just the way college football was

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Speaker 1: built last year. That's my issue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now I hear you, hey, coming up what might

702
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Speaker 2: have been? We always talk about the teams that miss

703
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Speaker 2: out on the players. If we flip that around, how

704
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Speaker 2: about a player that missed out on the team. We'll

705
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Speaker 2: throw that your way right around the corner. He's Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Know. Hang with us right here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. I'm Brian Know. He's Jason Martin here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. We're coming to you live from the

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Speaker 2: tire rack dot Com studios. So NFL Draft, we are

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Speaker 2: in an NFL draft mode over here, j Martin. I

711
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Speaker 2: love this. I'm a pig and slop when it comes

712
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Speaker 2: to ball and I was just I read a bunch

713
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Speaker 2: of draft stuff and there is something I ran across

714
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Speaker 2: where it caused me to flip what I normally think, right,

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Speaker 2: I normally think about teams that miss out on the players.

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Speaker 2: Think about last year, Carolina very well could have missed

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Speaker 2: out on the better quarterback and c J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud.

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Speaker 2: That's the way looks so far. But if you flip

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Speaker 2: that around and look at the player who might have

721
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: missed out on the team. Right what does it look

722
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: like if Bryce Young goes to Houston and CJ. Stroud

723
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: goes to Carolina. It might look the same, maybe it

724
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: looks different. I will never know. But if you flip

725
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: that around and think about the player who missed out

726
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: on the team, is there a better example than if

727
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: you go back to the twenty twenty one draft the Niners.

728
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: They jump up to number three overall, a lot of

729
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: rumors they're gonna take Mac Jones out of Alabama, and

730
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Speaker 2: they didn't. They took Trey Lance. The rest is history.

731
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Speaker 2: Think about where Mac Jones in his career is right now,

732
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Speaker 2: he fizzles out in New England. What if he was

733
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Speaker 2: drafted by San Francisco. Are we looking at Mac Jones

734
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Speaker 2: similarly to how we look at Brock Purdy right now?

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Speaker 2: I think there's a great chance that's exactly what we're

736
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Speaker 2: talking about right here, right now.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a really good point. It absolutely does

738
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Speaker 1: matter where you go and what situation you're walking into,

739
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: not even just whether or not it mixes with your

740
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Speaker 1: play style, but just if it mixes with anyone's play style, Like,

741
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Speaker 1: what is it toxic. What is the quality of the environment.

742
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that you could, if we really

743
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: had time, we could go through the last twenty twenty

744
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: five years of the NFL and look at dysfunctional franchises

745
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: and look at guys that you know, just fell through

746
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 1: the cracks because there was nobody. There's no development, there's

747
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: no consistency. There was like a revolving door of offensive

748
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Speaker 1: coordinators in the case of like a quarterback for example,

749
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: something like that. The mac Jones thing is interesting because

750
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Speaker 1: there was there seemed to be a like, at least

751
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: a reasonable floor for mac Jones. I don't think the

752
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: ceiling was particularly high, but the floor wasn't like the

753
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: bottom of the barrel. And even in the first year,

754
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, they've made the playoffs before they got boat

755
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: raced by the Bills, but there was a positivity around

756
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: mac Jones, and it dissipated real quick that second year.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if it would have been

758
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: exactly the same, but Shanahan has won with a number

759
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Speaker 1: of guys that haven't really done much elsewhere. I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's see when games A CJ. Bethard, He's obviously we've

761
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Speaker 1: seen what he's done with brock Party. He's done this

762
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Speaker 1: with a couple of different guys. There's no reason to

763
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: think that he wouldn't have done pretty well with mac

764
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: Jones now, And I think that's a I think the

765
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: larger point is are we blinded in the way we

766
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Speaker 1: analyze and the way we view people historically and we

767
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Speaker 1: don't take into consideration these other factors, Like, boy, what

768
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: a perfect situation brock Party walked into. If brock Party

769
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Speaker 1: had gone to New England, Yeah, nobody'd know what a

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Speaker 1: brock Party was, man. So I mean, I do think

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Speaker 1: that I think there's a lot there, Like there's a

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Speaker 1: whole lot that you can unpack, and then you could

773
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Speaker 1: start to look at this draft and say, well, who's

774
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Speaker 1: going to be the quarterback that goes to the team

775
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Speaker 1: that can't handle him, that doesn't know what to do

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Speaker 1: to help develop him, or that's just the wrong environment,

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Speaker 1: and that guy's not going to have a shot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like you look at the teams that might

779
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: be in the range to move up, you know, you

780
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: look at say your Broncos, the Vikings, the Raiders. There

781
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: are worse situations to go to, Yeah, for sure, quarterback. Right,

782
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: Like we talked about Minnesota what they have and Justin

783
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: Jefferson TJ. Hockinson, it's like, Okay, I show up a

784
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: Day one rookie and I have DeVante Adams as a target.

785
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 2: You know, with the silver and black. It's pretty good.

786
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: Absolutely it is. And man to rewind and go back

787
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 2: to your point, wasn't it the rookie of the year?

788
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: Chase the offensive rookie of the year, And it came

789
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Speaker 2: down to I think it was Jamar Chase who overtook

790
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Speaker 2: Mac Jones at the very end of that season. I

791
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: believe that's the way it went down. But Mac Jones

792
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: was right in line to be the offensive rookie of

793
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Speaker 2: the year. His career got off to a pretty good

794
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: start and then it just fizzled. And a lot of

795
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 2: it had to do with the lack of talent around him.

796
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Speaker 2: You put him in that Niners offense this whole time.

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Speaker 2: J Mart, He's still a Niner. I guaranteed he is

798
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Speaker 2: not on his second team right now? Yeah, yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: Let's stay with the Patriots and talk about him again.

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Speaker 1: Next hour to open. How about their old coach?

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, A lot of news with Belichick and maybe

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Speaker 2: a little Robert Kraft sprinkled in there. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: that right around the corner. He's Jason Martin. I'm Brian No.

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Speaker 1: Hope your Sunday is going better than it is for

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks, even though they tried to make it

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Speaker 1: a little interesting late. They're gonna go down oh one

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Speaker 1: to the Clippers. His name is Brian No, Mine is

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Speaker 1: it's almost over. B I'm actually surprised Doncic and Kyrie

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Speaker 1: have been in this long. Like it didn't like it.

818
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: They chipped away at the lead a little bit, and

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00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: now they've gotten it to like twelve or whatever. But

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Speaker 1: it just seems like I don't know if I want

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Speaker 1: that much mileage on Lucas tires in a game that

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00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: feels like it's a lost cause, especially his Maybe I'm

823
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: off base there, but I think they've played enough. It's

824
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: not like they're going to be rusty. If you're not

825
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: gonna win this game, I don't want to risk an

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Speaker 1: injury in a long series.

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Speaker 2: No, I hear you, Man, in forty two minutes, that's

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Speaker 2: a heavy workload for Luca Kyrie right around thirty nine,

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Speaker 2: when I mean, what were the odds that they were

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Speaker 2: going to claw their way back and actually win the game?

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Speaker 2: Slewmed to none, But yeah, a lot of wear and tear.

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Speaker 2: I think they can handle it this early in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: But I hear your point, And how crazy is that.

834
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Speaker 2: I mentioned this in the first hour, where the in

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Speaker 2: game line in the first half was plus eight and

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00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 2: a half for Dallas and I was like, no thanks.

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00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: And it got real close, man, It got very clat

838
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 2: closer than I thought it would. But yeah, Clipper's gonna

839
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: win this game, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they are. And it may be a long series

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Speaker 1: and maybe a fun series as well. This hasn't been

842
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: a great watch, but this day hasn't been a great watch,

843
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: and really, even yesterday those games were they were Okay.

844
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: There's definitely some series with some meat on the bone though,

845
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: some stuff that I'm really excited about. I'm really interested

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Speaker 1: in that Nick sixer series. Oh yeah, because there's just

847
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: a lot there. There's some franchises. Like I was talking

848
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: to Torrez last night when we were doing our program,

849
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Speaker 1: and he mentioned, you know, he's kind of rooting for

850
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: Joel Embiid because in Beads worked so hard and he's

851
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: dealt with a lot of bad stuff in Philadelphia in

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Speaker 1: terms of teammates and things that have gone awry and

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00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: coaching changes and all those things. And I said, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the same thing can be said

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Speaker 1: about the Knicks, because in most cases it's not the

856
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: Knicks players that have been the problem. It's been ownership

857
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: and all these things. So I think there's a lot

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Speaker 1: for both of those two teams. You know, I think

859
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: you still probably got some long series though to come,

860
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: plus a couple of games still left today and those

861
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: should be good ones too.

862
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

863
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: I love that the Knicks didn't shy away from the

864
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 2: two seed because they could have said, you know, there's

865
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: a chance that we're gonna get Joel Embiid and the

866
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: sixers in the first round. Let's just lose our last

867
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: regular season game to the Bowls and you know, Indiana,

868
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: that doesn't scare us as much as the potential of

869
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: Embiid with Tyrese Maxi, and I love that the Knicks

870
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: didn't shy away from that at all, because I think

871
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: when teams do that, it reveals what their realistic ceiling is.

872
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: If you're thinking about, oh, I don't want to play

873
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: this team in the first round, it's like you're not

874
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: gonna realistically compete for a championship. So I love that

875
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 2: the Knicks didn't shy away from that. They got Game

876
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: one and within Embiid clearly not himself physically, and then

877
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: the little alley oop to himself right off the backboard

878
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 2: and he comes down and his knee was gimpy, Like

879
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: you're getting Embiid at I don't know, maybe sixty five

880
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 2: seventy percent right now. It's gonna be really tough for

881
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 2: Philly if he's not close to one hundred percent and

882
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 2: he's not no.

883
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I mean I've pretty much already written them

884
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: off for the year when he got hurt, and then

885
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: you find out, well, he can come back before the playoffs. Well,

886
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: maybe that's perfect scenario because he's definitely not somebody that

887
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: you need to play all year long just because his

888
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: body doesn't hold up for him. So maybe he comes

889
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: back and he's able to do something that at least

890
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: makes them intriguing. But you know, the two teams that

891
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: you expected to be really in this mix deep into

892
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: this postseason, looking at Milwaukee and looking at Philadelphia, both

893
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: of those teams right now, like they're just not factors

894
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: in my head in terms of contenders. And that's a

895
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: shame because it's not really due to ability, it's due

896
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: to availability.

897
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, how many games do you think the Celtics are

898
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: gonna lose in the East. They might lose what like

899
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 2: three games en route to the finals. I don't see

900
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 2: them getting upset, But I don't know if these series

901
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: are even gonna be competitive where they're probably gonna sweep

902
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: Miami and then it's like whoever they face round two

903
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: Conference finals. Unless Yannis is good to go and looks

904
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: like Giannis, I mean, this could be a clear cake

905
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 2: walk for Boston.

906
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean that game and really the

907
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: one earlier did nothing to dissuade you if you felt

908
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: really good about Boston coming into the postseason, and everybody

909
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: should this really should be their year, right, like you

910
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: really look at it. If not this year, then win.

911
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: Like you look at the way they're made up, in

912
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: the way that they've played during the regular season. They've

913
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: been on the doorstep a couple of different times in

914
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: years past, like this has to be the one where

915
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: you get this done. Like if not, then something else

916
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: needs to happen. I was not a big fan of

917
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: bringing Joy and Brown back, especially at the money that

918
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: they paid him after last year. But they find themselves

919
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: where they find themselves right now. So I might be

920
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: eating Crow in two months when the playoffs end.

921
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: I know it, right, They're right there, and this does

922
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: it seems like the fork in the road type season

923
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: because if they win, you're like, well, see, they were

924
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 2: on the doorstep just a couple of years ago, lost

925
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference finals last year, but they got

926
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: it done this year and they were smart to stick

927
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: with that formula. But like you said, if they crash

928
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: and burn again, it turns into the same mode argument

929
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: where it's like, well, Tatum and Brown basically play the

930
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: same position. Is this really gonna bear championship fruit it's

931
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 2: gonna be the same discussion all over again if they

932
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: don't get it done.

933
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: And that was the same story in New England, and

934
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: that's why they decided they were going to turn the page.

935
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: They move into the Jiro Meo era and Bill Belichick

936
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: moves out. Why are we talking about Belichick right now?

937
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: He didn't have a job. Well, that's why we're talking

938
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: about him. Because when Seth Wickersham's attached to a Patriot story,

939
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: you probably read it. And indeed he was the story

940
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: that came out this week about Robert Kraft contacting Arthur

941
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: Blank during the search for the falcons new head coach

942
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: and basically saying the word that was usual was warning

943
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: him against Bill Belichick as his choice. What did you

944
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: What was your initial takeaway when you read that story?

945
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: My takeaway was how fake Robert Kraft is. Where it's like,

946
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: you'll hear publicly all nice things about Belichick and all

947
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 2: we're gonna have him in the Ring of Honor, we're

948
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: gonna have a celebration and YadA, YadA, YadA YadA, and

949
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 2: then the next thing we read is he's calling up

950
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: Arthur Blank to warn him not to trust Bill Belichick,

951
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: and that was my takeaway. I get it that you

952
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 2: have to put on a nice smile from time to time,

953
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: but this is different when you're calling up somebody else

954
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: and saying, do you probably better off not hiring this

955
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: guy at all?

956
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: Yeah?

957
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: I know he won six championships here, but trust me,

958
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: this guy is annoying as hell or whatever he had

959
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: to say. I just hate when people are fake. If

960
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 2: you don't like someone, fine, just don't smile in their face.

961
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what Robert Kraft does. So that was

962
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: one of the things I took away from this is

963
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: all the PC answers or things that he'll say, the

964
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: flowery comments about Bill Belichick when there's a microphone in

965
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: front of his face, and the next thing you know,

966
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: he's calling up colleagues to say, don't hire this guy.

967
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: That is beyond the hater move and totally unnecessary. He's

968
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: not in your organization anymore. What do you care if

969
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: Arthur Blank wants to hire a six time champion with

970
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: the Patriots alone. That's just that was crazy to me,

971
00:48:59,000 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 2: all right.

972
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: See from a completely different perspective, And I wondered if

973
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: that was your perspective, because I saw a lot of that,

974
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: and it makes sense. But when I read the article, Brian,

975
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: I took it from the perspective of One thing that

976
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: is made clear here and seems obvious, is the Craft

977
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: and Blank are pretty tough. That they're friendly, that they

978
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: get along, that they've run in similar circles, all of

979
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: those things, and you've heard the old boys club talk

980
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: and all this, but clearly they're friendly. What I read

981
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: in the article that stuck out was after that first

982
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: dinner that you have with Belichick, Kraft basically called him

983
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: and said, I know you, Arthur, and I know the

984
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: kind of guy you are, I know how important relationships

985
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: are to you, and having real personal contact with the

986
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: people in your organization and knowing them well and having

987
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: them be open and all of those kinds of things.

988
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: And basically, that's not this guy. And you can try

989
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 1: and try and try and try, believe me, I did

990
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: for decades, and that's just not who he is. You're

991
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to make him into the guy

992
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: with another dinner or another fifty dinners that you want

993
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: him to be. He's not a personality that you're gonna

994
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: be able to mold the way that you want I

995
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: didn't look at it like he's calling to try and

996
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: make sure Bill Belichick gets no job elsewhere anywhere in

997
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: the league. It looked to me like he was calling

998
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: a friend and he's like, I know you, and I

999
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: know what you want, and in this specific case, I

1000
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: understand why you would want to hire him. I do.

1001
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't know that his personality is right for you,

1002
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: like the guy that I know you to be and

1003
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: who you like to surround yourself with. I don't know

1004
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: that this is a match. I think that that was

1005
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: more it, and I felt like that I just took

1006
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: it from a different perspective. I didn't think it was

1007
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 1: completely phony. I didn't think it was from a really

1008
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: bad place. I thought it was actually calling a friend

1009
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: and just having a real conversation with him about a

1010
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 1: major decision that he was making.

1011
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 2: I think it's so different if Arthur Blank calls him

1012
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: and says, hey, Bobby Kraft, you know we go way back.

1013
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: What do you think about this guy? Rights. That's what

1014
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: teams do all the time when they're about to draft players, right,

1015
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 2: You're trying to get as much information as possible. There's

1016
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that, but for Robert Kraft, to pick

1017
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,959
Speaker 2: up the phone himself, according to these reports, and reach

1018
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: out to Arthur Blank and then just say don't trust

1019
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: this guy at all. That's completely different in my mind,

1020
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: because it is it's like you're proactively trying to get

1021
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: in this guy's way, and it's like one thing after another.

1022
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: I've heard so many flowery things that Robert Craft will

1023
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 2: say about Belichick publicly, But the next thing, you know,

1024
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: there's a Patriots documentary that's trashing Belichick and it's like, oh,

1025
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: what do you know? Robert Kraft is the one who's

1026
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: like behind this whole thing and owns the production company

1027
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: and that's producing this. It's like, well, that's not just

1028
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: the coincidence. He's clearly got an ax to grind against Belichick.

1029
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: And I get it. If you've dealt with Belichick for

1030
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: over twenty years, I can only imagine what that is

1031
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: like over time, where Robert Kraft says, hey, do this

1032
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: and Belichick's like, no, not doing that, like time and

1033
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: time again. I could absolutely see that being the case.

1034
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 2: But when you're proactively trying to get in someone's way

1035
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: who produced to those levels, I understand he's not cuddly

1036
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 2: and easy to get along with but when he's produced

1037
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 2: to those levels and you want to take on yourself

1038
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: to reach out to the Falcons team owner, and they

1039
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: haven't had any success. The only time they got to

1040
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 2: the super Bowl they lost to the Patriots in Bill Belichick,

1041
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: and you're gonna say, don't trust this guy. Don't do it.

1042
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that is so weak. It's like, if

1043
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: you hate me, fine, just don't smile in my face.

1044
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what Robert Kraft does.

1045
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you could be right. I mean, they

1046
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: certainly have bad blood. I don't disagree in terms of that,

1047
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: like their relationship had soured and that informs some of

1048
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: the things that are happening. I didn't see directly that

1049
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: he's the one that called the craft is the one

1050
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: that called what I read And I actually pulled up

1051
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: the article just to see if I could find that

1052
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: particular part of it, and it basically said that they

1053
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: checked each other's references on both sides, that you know,

1054
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: Belichick looked into people that had been associated with Blank,

1055
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: and that Blank had done the same thing and had

1056
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: two separate conversations with Robert Kraft. And it says among

1057
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: the NFL owners, Blank considers Craft his closest friend, and

1058
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: they you know, said very kind stuff and supporting each

1059
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: other and all of this stuff, and it came down

1060
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: to character. And the one thing that I don't like

1061
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: is that don't trust Bill portion, which is what you

1062
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: just kind of laid out. I do agree on that side.

1063
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: The part that I kind of went past that because

1064
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: that felt like it was sort of the hot button thing.

1065
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to see what the nuance was. It sometimes

1066
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: gets lost if you don't read a little further. And

1067
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: that's when I said, you'll never have a warm conversation

1068
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 1: with Bill. Is one thing that Kraft told blank blank

1069
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: likes coaches who feel part of a family. It wasn't

1070
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: gonna be that way with Bill because Bill can tell

1071
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: you until he's you know, I've changed. I'm not the

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00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: same way that I used to be in all this

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00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 1: And basically Kraft said, look, he's a stubborn guy and

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00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: he can be very very difficult. And if that is

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00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: what he's regarding when he's talking about trust, you can't

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00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: trust it. He's gonna change a leopard can't change his spots.

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00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: This is who this guy is. He's been here for

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00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: a long long time. Why would he change that? Now,

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00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: You don't bring in a Bill Belichick and then try

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00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: to change him into your kind of guy. You just

1081
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: kind of know what's baked in to the cake. You

1082
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: know what's in the sauce at that point in time.

1083
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: So I don't, I don't. I don't think that. I

1084
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: don't think it was all bad blood that caused all

1085
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: of this. I think that this just kind of was

1086
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: the perfect storm of all of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's two things. I think it's he's

1088
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: clearly bents and is not the biggest fan of Bill Belichick,

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00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 2: just based on how he carries himself. And yeah, he's

1090
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: he's buddies with Arthur Blank. I totally get both of

1091
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: those things. But man, when you're proactively reaching out. This

1092
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: was according to a source who spoke to two people.

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00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 2: He talked to a close Craft friend and a longtime

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00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: Belichick confidant. He said that, yeah, Robert called Arthur Blank

1095
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 2: to warn him not to trust Bill. That's the Belichick

1096
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: source source. And that was backed up by the other guy, right,

1097
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, so Bobby Kraft is the guy

1098
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 2: picking the phone to say, yeah, you know, I just

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00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: got to tell you Arthur, I respect you and Belichick

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00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: he's more than a handful man, this freaking guy and

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00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 2: so forth and so on. I just I look, man,

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00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: I get it, I understand it. But again, then just

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00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: if you're going down that road, stay down that road.

1104
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: Don't avert and be like, oh yeah, Belichick, he was amazing.

1105
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 2: When you're doing interviews, it's like, if you don't like

1106
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: the guy, just stick with that, say it as professionally

1107
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 2: as possible. But he won't because he knows it doesn't

1108
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: land well. And that's what makes Robert Craft so fake.

1109
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: He gives fake answers and says flowery things because he

1110
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 2: knows it doesn't land well, when that's truly how he

1111
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: feels about Belichick.

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Speaker 1: NFL NFL Draft will be a few days away, and

1113
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: we can actually want to ask Adam Kaplan on the

1114
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: other side, the FSR NFL insider, what he thinks of

1115
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: this as well. But I think a lot of our

1116
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: chatter will be about the draft, but we'll at least

1117
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: lead off and ask him the Belichick question and just

1118
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: see what he thinks of the discussion we've been having

1119
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: over the last couple of minutes and where he lands

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00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: on it. I think there's a lot there. It was,

1121
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: it was. It was quite a nugget to come up

1122
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: the week before the draft, for that to for that

1123
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: to reach out. So we'll have Adam Kaplan again. He's

1124
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: your fr NFL Insider Inside the Birds podcast host as well.

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00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: He will join us on the flip side. With four

1126
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: days to go before the NFL Draft, you won't want

1127
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: to miss that. That's next here with Brian O and

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00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: Jason Martin on Fox Sports Radio Welcome back tire rack

1129
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: dot Com Studios, Fox Sports Sunday. He's Brian Oh, I'm

1130
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: Jason Martin. Well, Tom Petty bringing us back. B Love

1131
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: came into my ear and asked me for some song

1132
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: references and immediately went to Tom Petty, who I love.

1133
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: But also this generation is gonna say, oh, yeah, that's

1134
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: the Grand Theft Auto six trailer, which is indeed true,

1135
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: that is indeed accurate. I'm glad this song is finally

1136
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: getting the love it deserves. So they said, I if

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00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: they asked you, you would just pick a bunch of

1138
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: death metal. I said, yeah, he's probably gonna pick Slayer

1139
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: because I remember seeing you or I remember talking to

1140
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,439
Speaker 1: you about Slayer on radio years ago.

1141
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely love Slayer, but I'm pretty eclectic, yeah, j Mart,

1142
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: I'm pretty eclectic, man. I can go in a lot

1143
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: of different directions. Heavy metal is my favorite. It's definitely

1144
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: my go to. Chances are I would have taken Slayer

1145
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: or something crazy, but you never know. I could go

1146
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: wild card band or artist on you. From time to time.

1147
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: I will give it. I look forward to chatting with

1148
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: you about that because I want to know what your

1149
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: wildcard selections would be speaking of, well, not really wild card,

1150
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be cards and hopefully Roger Goodell is

1151
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: actually gonna be able to read the names correctly. The

1152
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: NFL draft's coming up on Thursday, and we just spent

1153
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: you know, eight minutes talking about Bill Belichick as well.

1154
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: Before the break, let's bring an FSR NFL inside er

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00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: Inside the Birds podcast host Adam Kaplan. You can find

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00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: him on the X at Kaplan NFL. Adam good afternoon.

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00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 3: How are you guys.

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00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 8: I'm well, yeah, we're about four days away, looking forward

1159
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 8: to it on Thursday night, which is going to be

1160
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 8: interesting draft because we know it's quarterback driven, but once

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00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 8: you get past the quarterbacks, there's a lot of mystery.

1162
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was looking at your latest mock draft.

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00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: I guess from a couple of days ago, and I've

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Speaker 1: seen the convention or not really conventional wisdom, but I've

1165
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: seen like increasing hype. The first four picks are going

1166
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: to be quarterbacks, which has never happened before. You've seen

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00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: i think three times in the history of the draft, Adam,

1168
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: there've been one, two and three have been quarterbacks. You

1169
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 1: don't have it that way. You do have the first

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Speaker 1: three picks being quarterbacks, but you don't have McCarthy going

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Speaker 1: until eleven, and that's the last quarterback that you have.

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Speaker 1: So those talks of six quarterbacks going in the first round,

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00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: you don't appear to be buying that.

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00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: No.

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00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 3: I here's what I do think.

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Speaker 8: So the over one hundred's funny you mentioned that the

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Speaker 8: over innner total buy that books is about four and

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Speaker 8: a half.

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Speaker 3: See, it's real simple.

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00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 8: If Michael Penicks would get cleared medically from clubs to

1181
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 8: go in the first round, he'll go in the first round.

1182
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 8: He's suffered the same aco injury twice. They had to

1183
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 8: fix the first one to one of his knees. He's

1184
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 8: had a major shoulder injury, and that's Look, that's an issue.

1185
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Speaker 3: He is twenty four. He turns twenty four next month.

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00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 8: That's not a big deal at quarterback, but it's the

1187
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 8: injury history. So he's Look, he's talented enough and he

1188
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 8: should without the injuries. He's certainly, you know, a mid

1189
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 8: first round pick. But it only takes one team to

1190
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 8: take a player and say, listen, we could deal with this.

1191
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 8: He's healthy, It's been healthy for a couple of years now.

1192
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Speaker 8: But that's a factor. Bo Nicks. He's a top forty,

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01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 8: top forty five pick. I've kind of gone back and

1194
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 8: forth on him. But again, if there's gonna be a

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Speaker 8: fifth guy to mean, it's probably more penis at this point.

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Speaker 2: I like that you mentioned the word mystery, cap'ain right, Like,

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01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: what would you say is the biggest non quarterback mystery

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Speaker 2: about the first round here?

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Speaker 8: I would say there are a couple things, a couple

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Speaker 8: of things here. The cornerback group, there's a major drop

1201
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 8: off or after like the first three or four. The

1202
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 8: rusher group, this is not a good ed Russer group overall.

1203
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 8: Dallas Turners. The Dallas Turner will probably the first one

1204
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 8: to go off the board. Leatu Latu is a guy

1205
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 8: without the concern about his neck because remember he left

1206
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 8: the University of washing because they wouldn't clear him to play.

1207
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Speaker 3: The only reason.

1208
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Speaker 8: Why he's going to drop out of the top ten,

1209
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 8: perhaps through the twenties and an outside chance he drops

1210
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 8: out of the first round is do that that medical concern.

1211
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Speaker 3: But it's just not a good draft.

1212
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Speaker 8: In fact, typically for an NFL draft, true what we

1213
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 8: call true first round grades, you have to you could

1214
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 8: have up to twenty or twenty two. I'm told so far,

1215
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 8: I'm getting sixteen to eighteen. Now, obviously they're thirty two picks,

1216
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 8: but after the top sixteen or eighteen, these players really

1217
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 8: should be taken the first round, but excuse me, the

1218
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 8: second round, but they're not because again, you have to

1219
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Speaker 8: make thirty two selections. So what this does tell me, guys,

1220
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Speaker 8: you may see some trading down from the twenties to

1221
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Speaker 8: maybe the second round on those teams that have early

1222
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 8: second round picks that say, you know what, we've got

1223
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 8: a lot of needs, like Washington and some other teams who,

1224
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 8: by the way, watching it's got six picks in the

1225
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 8: top one hundred. Those are the type of teams that

1226
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 8: could look to trade up because they know they have

1227
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Speaker 8: a lot of needs and they need to use these picks.

1228
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Speaker 1: Adam has Drake May lost steam in terms of his

1229
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: name compared to where he was maybe a year ago

1230
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: at least, I would say entering last season at least,

1231
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like people are talking about him even

1232
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: as much as they are JJ McCarthy over the last month.

1233
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, look again, it sets all internet hype. But

1234
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 8: in scouting, this guy's very, very gifted. I know there's

1235
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 8: some worts there, needs to play more within structure, misses,

1236
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 8: some throws he should be able to make, and he

1237
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 8: just he needs a good coaching at the next level.

1238
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 8: Now New England has put it out there that they're

1239
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 8: willing to move down, it would take a hall to

1240
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 8: do it, particularly from those teams like the Raiders. You

1241
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 8: look at the teams picking in the teens here, like

1242
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 8: you know, the Vikings, the Raiders, the Broncos and the Broncos. Unfortunately,

1243
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 8: they're missing a couple of draft picks due to the

1244
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 8: Russell Wilson trades. So that's a concern, but more likely

1245
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 8: than not that the Patriots will stay there. But you see,

1246
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 8: here's the thing with Drake May. Right, Let's just say

1247
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 8: that Patriots find a team to trade down. Well, if

1248
01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 8: they're not getting Drake May, are they in love with

1249
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 8: JJ McCarthy because he's a guy. As I've said repeatedly

1250
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,439
Speaker 8: on FSR, I've talked to teams have second round grades

1251
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 8: on them.

1252
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 3: I've talked to teams that have some third round grades

1253
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 3: on them. I get it.

1254
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 8: He's going to go mostly go in the airpayer for

1255
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 8: the first round. It's a quarterback driven league. But you

1256
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 8: better being low with that player if if you're in

1257
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 8: New England, because that's that's the thing they have to

1258
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 8: be assured of that they can get quarterback by trade down.

1259
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 2: How about this juicy rumor cap where maybe the Vikings

1260
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 2: would make an offer with the Patriots to move up

1261
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: to number three and trade three first round picks. What

1262
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 2: would you think if the Vikings did, I know, Yeah.

1263
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Speaker 3: Well you'd be flipping.

1264
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 8: You're giving up too really, you're flipping and then you're

1265
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 8: giving up yeah, twenty three, and then you're giving the

1266
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,439
Speaker 8: future one. It's a lot now. They have a lot

1267
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 8: of needs. Yes, quarterback is a disaster for them. They

1268
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 8: can't go with Sam Darnold. They know that he's just

1269
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 8: he's basically as an insurance policy, but they've got a

1270
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 8: major cornerback need. They know they have to address it.

1271
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 8: They have a need to guard, they have a need

1272
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 8: for you remember, the draft is about the few. They

1273
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 8: haven't need at running back past the season. Aaron Jones

1274
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 8: is on a one year deal. I mean, they've got

1275
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 8: they've got some challenges. They kind of shock the world

1276
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 8: two years ago and made the playoffs. They got handed

1277
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 8: their lunch by the Giants. But they have to get

1278
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 8: the quarterback done. And that's why KOs Dolpha Mensa, their

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Speaker 8: GM made the extra He made the trade to get

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Speaker 8: that extra one because they knew they needed an AMO

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Speaker 8: to trade up. So on your point, yes, that's definitely

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Speaker 8: in play. But what I try to warn people is

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Speaker 8: that the reason why there've been no trade so far.

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Speaker 3: I mean lately, we've had.

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Speaker 8: A couple in the off season, but we're talking the

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Speaker 8: last two or three weeks, is because teams are having

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Speaker 8: trade calls now. They're setting up what could potentially happen

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Speaker 8: during the first round. Because you've got these trade calls

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Speaker 8: done now, if a quarterback drops to them where they're

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Speaker 8: picking the Vikings with their first round pick, their first one,

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Speaker 8: they don't have to do anything. See, they have to

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Speaker 8: kind of see what the board looks like, looks like

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Speaker 8: it's also.

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Speaker 1: A really deep class Adam at wide receiver. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we know Marvin Junior, and we know about my league neighbors,

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Speaker 1: but just how deep is it in terms of wide

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Speaker 1: receiver talent that could really help teams going forward in

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Speaker 1: this draft?

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Speaker 8: All right, so kind of by my count, and again

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Speaker 8: I know, look, I don't have access to team's draft boards.

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Speaker 8: No one does who doesn't work for a team. In fact,

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Speaker 8: coaches generally don't. Harrison neighbors are doing. Say I see

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Speaker 8: Brian Thomas making, yet I see Xavier Worthy because his

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Speaker 8: incredible speed making in the first round. Your second rounders

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Speaker 8: are a d Mitchell from Texas. I know there's a

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Speaker 8: rumors about him going the first round. I don't see

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Speaker 8: it based on the coaches I've spoken with, But she

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Speaker 8: go in the second. Trey Franklin of Oregon, Lad McConkey,

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Speaker 8: Ricky Piersaw, Zavier Leaguet has had a great offseason.

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Speaker 3: He'll go in the second round.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you're right, if you really look at it,

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Speaker 8: there could be twelve to fourteen receivers going in the

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Speaker 8: first two rounds. That's almost a record. But I'm telling you,

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Speaker 8: this is a super deep drafted receiver.

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Speaker 2: If you put the quarterbacks to the side cap, what's

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Speaker 2: the most interesting non quarterback storyline to you? Is the

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Speaker 2: wide receivers or something else.

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Speaker 8: It terms of interesting, they're usually really good individual stories

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Speaker 8: where you know, some guys have kind of overcome, you know,

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Speaker 8: some some tough challenges in their life and the career,

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Speaker 8: and you always.

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Speaker 3: Have those things.

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Speaker 8: But I like the stories where you know the son

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Speaker 8: is going to be drafted this year.

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Speaker 3: You know the father played in the NFL.

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Speaker 8: You know Frank Corr junior, who could go late in

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Speaker 8: the draft, but the Marvin harerson junior going off as

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Speaker 8: early as number four. And by the way, he's widely

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Speaker 8: regarding the end for this draft. That's the best player overall.

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Speaker 8: And I've told people this is what I got from

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Speaker 8: NFL teams. Some teams think it could be better than father. Wow,

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Speaker 8: So which is pretty special because his dad's in the

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Speaker 8: Hall of Fame. It's just kind of and then here's

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Speaker 8: a good one for you. This is the the most

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Speaker 8: intriguing situation is there's only one tight end who is

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Speaker 8: going to go in the first round. This Brock Boers.

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Speaker 8: Could he go as early to the Jets, who I

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Speaker 8: willy do not believe we'll go to the quarterback? Could

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Speaker 8: he go to the Jets at ten? I know fans,

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Speaker 8: I know some fans don't want that. They want to

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Speaker 8: get a left tackle. They've got a left tackle for

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Speaker 8: the season in Tyron Smith, but they don't want they

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Speaker 8: don't have one.

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Speaker 3: For the future.

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Speaker 8: Brock Bauers is fascinating because he's so gifted. He's one

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Speaker 8: of the highest graded tight ends and got the last

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Speaker 8: seven or eighty years.

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Speaker 1: Real quick, just with a couple of seconds left at him.

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Speaker 1: If you just had to pick right now, do you

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Speaker 1: think the Patriots take Drake May or do you think

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Speaker 1: somebody else is going to take Drake May? Three?

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Speaker 8: I would say odds. I'd put the odds are pretty good.

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Speaker 8: Not a lock, Absolutely not a lock, because I don't

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Speaker 8: do trades.

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Speaker 3: In my mock.

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Speaker 8: And by the way, the mock that you sold from

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Speaker 8: Pro Football Network dot com, My final one comes there

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Speaker 8: tomorrow early tomorrow morning. I actually just finished it. I'm

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Speaker 8: turning in about an hour. Yeah, it's see the things

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Speaker 8: I don't on your point earlier, I don't sense the

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Speaker 8: love for Drake May from other teams. H No, you

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Speaker 8: never say never, because again, the Vikings need one. The

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Speaker 8: Raiders are looking now. I know Tom Tellesco is kind

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Speaker 8: of conservative as a as a GM, he usually doesn't

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Speaker 8: he's not got hip. We will trade up. But there's

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Speaker 8: a seg the National FOOTBA League. When you don't have one,

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Speaker 8: you're always looking for one. That's a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, Adam. We appreciate it, brother, We're looking for

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Speaker 1: I'll be looking forward to seeing your final mack tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Sounds good. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Adam Kaplan. Follow him on the X at

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Speaker 1: Kaplan NFL Profootballnetwork dot com. You'll have that mock out tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We can talk a little bit more about that, maybe

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Speaker 1: in some of the things we just chatted with him about.

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Speaker 1: But let's go out and catch up with the latest.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk to Kevin.

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Speaker 6: Wirre Kevin Yeah, NBA action.

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Speaker 7: We've had a couple of playoff games already conclude today

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Speaker 7: Western Conference first Round Game one between the LA Clippers

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Speaker 7: and Dallas Mavericksan. It was going to be seen as

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Speaker 7: a tall task for the LA Clippers today because Kawhi

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Speaker 7: Leonard was ruled out for this game, so the Clippers

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Speaker 7: had to go without him, but it seemed like that

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Speaker 7: it was the Mavericks who are missing something today.

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Speaker 1: Pardon with his running mate and Zubox, the two of

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Speaker 1: them have combined for thirty two more than Dallas as

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Speaker 1: a team. Teams from the rating a lot it up.

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Speaker 7: West guys I parked the rip with hem Westbrook with

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Speaker 7: they thundery throwndown Clippers Radio Network with the calls. The

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Speaker 7: La Clippers win against the Dallas Mavericks one oh nine

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Speaker 7: to ninety seven, and the game was not even that close.

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Speaker 7: The score was a lot closer than what that game

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Speaker 7: really was, as the Mavericks really struggled for the first

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Speaker 7: half and well into the third quarter shooting the basketball.

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Speaker 7: They finished thirty eight point eight percent for the game,

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Speaker 7: but it was in the low twenties for much of

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Speaker 7: the early part and uh Kawhi Leonard or excuse me,

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Speaker 7: Kyrie Irving and Luka Dancic the only guys for Dallas

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Speaker 7: who actually did anything. Luca had thirty three, Kyrie had

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Speaker 7: thirty one. The only other guy in double figures was PJ. Washington,

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Speaker 7: who had eleven points. Contrast that to the Clippers. Not

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Speaker 7: only did James Harden have an outstanding gave me a

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Speaker 7: twenty eight points off six of eleven three point shooting,

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Speaker 7: eight to seventeen overall if he Ta Zubots had a

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Speaker 7: double double twenty points fifteen rebounds. Paul George also had

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Speaker 7: a twenty two points. The Clippers a team win as

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Speaker 7: they take a one to nothing as series lead. Earlier

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Speaker 7: today Eastern Conference First Round Game one. Celtics A and

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Speaker 7: head and Boston win this one and convincing fashion as

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Speaker 7: Jason Tatum had a triple double twenty three points, ten rebounds,

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Speaker 7: ten assist. Christops porzingis also in double figures with eighteen points,

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Speaker 7: Derek White twenty points, Jalen Brown had seventeen, Sam Howser

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Speaker 7: at twelve off the bench, Al Horford even had ten

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Speaker 7: points on four of eight shooting, and bam Adebayou the

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Speaker 7: top of the score sheet for Miami as he had

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Speaker 7: twenty four. In the NHL Stanley Cup playoffs, we've had

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Speaker 7: a couple of games that conclude Battle of Sunshine, staying

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Speaker 7: Panthers over the Lightning three to two.

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Speaker 6: Over at Madison Square Garden.

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Speaker 7: It's the Rangers taking a one nothing lead in their

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Speaker 7: series with the Capitals beating Washington four to one. In

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Speaker 7: Major League Baseball, it was a blowout in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 7: the Dodgers losing in frustrating fashion of the Mets on

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Speaker 7: Friday and Saturday. But see him to exactly the frustration

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Speaker 7: on Sunday as Tyler Glassnell getting the win as he

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Speaker 7: moves to four and one on the air, beating the

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Speaker 7: Mets ten to nothing. LA wins a Rockies in ten

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Speaker 7: innings get by the Mariners in game one of a

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Speaker 7: doubleheader two to one. Marlin's over the Cup sixty three.

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Speaker 7: Brewers top the Cardinals two nothing, Tigers over the Twins

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01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 7: six to one, Orioles blank the Royals five nothing. Guardians

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Speaker 7: beat the Athletics six to two, Red shot out the

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Speaker 7: Angels three nothing. Yankees edge of the race five to four.

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Speaker 7: Nationals will a shoutout win against the Astros six nothing.

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Speaker 7: Phillies over the White Sox eight to two. The Red

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Speaker 7: Sox beat the Pirates six' one and just getting started

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01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 7: out in Atlanta, Rangers and Braves, and then one more

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Speaker 7: game coming up at eight o'clock Mariners and Rocky second

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Speaker 7: game of that doubleheader.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, guys, Thank you Kevin. We are live

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Speaker 1: in the tire rag dot Com studios. Since we kept

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Speaker 1: atam kap on a little bit longer, we appreciate his time.

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Speaker 1: We can come back, we can react a little bit

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Speaker 1: to what he said. Also, Brian, there's a coach and

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01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: there's ink, but we're not talking about a contract. We

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Speaker 1: will discuss when we come back. On the other side,

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Speaker 1: it's Fox Sports Sunday here on Fox Sports Radio from

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Speaker 1: uh Tom Petty to Maroon five? Is this one of

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Speaker 1: your wildcard picks here?

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01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 2: B It's not, But I'll tell you what, Jay Mart's

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01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,560
Speaker 2: a catchy tune right there. I can't talk trash about it.

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01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 2: I was just in the mood to Maroon five.

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01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 1: As long as you go old Maroon five, I'm with you.

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01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the best.

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01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: This will probably argue with their best song.

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Speaker 1: Mary.

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01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 2: Is this singer dreamy?

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01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 3: Would you say that?

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01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 9: Like?

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01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 6: Look wise, Yeah, Adam Levine is not my type.

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01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 2: So no, no, thumb's down. He's not ugly.

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Speaker 6: I'm not he's not. He's just not my type.

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Speaker 2: Okay. He's a great singer though, so I'll give you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look that that first record was good, and then

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01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: after that they it wasn't their first record anymore. Let's

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Speaker 1: just say that, speaking of records, I gotta mention this

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna do the uh, we'll do this, We'll

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Speaker 1: pay off the teas. But I just saw this story

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Speaker 1: Miles Russell. Did you see this, bri Miles Russell, teenager,

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Speaker 1: Corn Ferry Tour. No, I haven't down him. He's down

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Speaker 1: in Florida, fifteen years old. He was third place, he

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Speaker 1: ended up, He ended up finishing in twentieth. Right, He

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Speaker 1: had a final round sixty six, fourteen under par. He's

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01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: not sixteen years old. He broke par at age six.

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01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: Started playing golf at two, shot a sixty six at

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Speaker 1: Sawgrass as a high school freshman at a Junior Players

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Speaker 1: Championship event.

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Speaker 2: He broke par at age six at six. Wow, that's insane, man.

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Speaker 2: That shouldn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Not only should not happen, there's a lot of people

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01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: listening right now that are just gonna take their clubs

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Speaker 1: and throw them away. I know, right, dude's breaking part six.

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01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:52,520
Speaker 1: Then what are we even doing here? What that is insanity?

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Speaker 2: That really is, man, that's yeah.

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Speaker 1: Again, just the fact that he's on the corn Ferry

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Speaker 1: Tour shooting fourteen under not even sixteen had a front

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01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: nine thirty one had a seventy yesterday, Like, that's ridiculous.

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01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: Maybe we need to pay attention to Miles Russell, the

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Speaker 1: fifteen year old man that's destroying pros right now.

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Speaker 2: And is this right? Did Kelly Korter win again? Did

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Speaker 2: she win like her fifth straight? Dude? That's insane? She

1492
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: won her second major. She's on an absolute tearor I

1493
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 2: think this would be a record if she wins the

1494
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 2: next event, If that's sixth straight, I think that'd be

1495
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 2: a record on the LPGA too.

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01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 1: I mean, winning golf tournaments is so unique week to week.

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01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: The fact that you could go on a run like

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01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: that is preposterous. Yeah, like it really is impressive. It is, okay, So,

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01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: speaking of runs, Michigan had a run last year. I

1500
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard about the Michigan Wolverines, but

1501
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: they went fifteen to OHO and won the national championship.

1502
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: And now Jim Harball has exited stage left and now

1503
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: he is with the Los Angeles Chargers where he is

1504
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: going to inherit justin Herbert and hopefully do more with

1505
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 1: him than the previous regime did. But he went to

1506
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: Michigan as part of the Spring Game festivities this weekend

1507
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: to celebrate the championship and all of this. Did you

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01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: see what he did while he.

1509
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 2: Was there, Brian, I did, Yeah, I saw this.

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01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: He got a tattoo and it's like a block M

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01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: and fifteen to er is what the tattoo is like.

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01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: It's as generic as a tattoo could be, which when

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01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: you think about pleated khakis and just the whole Jim

1514
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: Harbaugh experience, like, I like that he did. First off,

1515
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 1: he did it because he's paying off of bet. He said,

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01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, if we run the table, I'll get ink,

1517
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: and so he gets ink. Didn't have any ink prior

1518
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: to this. I have not Do you have ink?

1519
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: B I've got ink?

1520
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: Do you I do? I guess you should, right, like

1521
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: with Slayer and all that, I guess I should have

1522
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: figured that. Do you have a lot of ink?

1523
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of ink. I would say

1524
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 2: tastefully done ink, But yeah, I think it's the metal

1525
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: community would be like, what kind of metal head?

1526
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 3: Are you?

1527
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 6: No ink?

1528
01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 2: What's going on here?

1529
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? Out of an anti ink personally, But so Harball

1530
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 1: does this and then he says in the interview afterwards,

1531
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 1: he's explaining why he's doing it, and he says, you know,

1532
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: after getting this, he's like, I'm impervious to pain, and yeah,

1533
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: so I didn't feel any of that. And I can

1534
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: see after having this why people add on to it

1535
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: like he's gonna get more. Uh oh, yeah, Harball doesn't

1536
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: need sleeves like Jim Harball with sleeve tattoos like that's

1537
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: that just that's not Harball is in any way, shape

1538
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 1: or form. But my take on it, I laughed about

1539
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 1: it because I'm like, of course Jim Harbaugh did this.

1540
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 1: This is the this is the thing that makes him

1541
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: endearing to people that love him and infuriating the people

1542
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: that don't, because if you don't like him, you just

1543
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: roll your eyes at this and think it's another gimmick

1544
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 1: and another stunt. And if you love him, then you

1545
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 1: just see this as another genuine kind of Jim Harball.

1546
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: Like if you could make getting a tattoo sort of nerdy,

1547
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: that's kind of what this is. What was your take

1548
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: on the Jim Harbaugh tattoo.

1549
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 2: Well, the first part is this is so on brand. Yes,

1550
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 2: and I love Jim Harbaugh.

1551
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 3: You know me.

1552
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 2: I'm from South Bend, right, and I love Notre Dame football,

1553
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 2: so I'm contractually obligated to hate Michigan football, which I do.

1554
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 2: I freaking hate them, But I can put that hatred

1555
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 2: to the side and give credit where credit is to.

1556
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 2: I love Jim Harbaugh. I love his quirky weirdness. I

1557
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 2: love his competitiveness. He was absolutely awesome for Michigan's program,

1558
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 2: and for them to go fifteen to zero win a

1559
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 2: national championship, it's the perfect drop the mic walk off

1560
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 2: moment and he goes back to the NFL. Worked out

1561
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 2: perfectly for Jim. So I love Harbaugh and his goofiness.

1562
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 2: But the tattoo itself. I love that he's a man

1563
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: of his word. But that is the most broken down

1564
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 2: prison tat I have ever seen. It doesn't even look

1565
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 2: like the block him. It looks like someone's first crackhead.

1566
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 3: Well, you know, there's.

1567
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: My first go at it as a tattoo artist. I'll

1568
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: get better. There's nowhere to go up. There's nowhere to

1569
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 2: go but up from this, you know, m fifteen to

1570
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 2: oh tattoo on Harbaugh? It just should look way better,

1571
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 2: that's all.

1572
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 3: Well.

1573
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 1: I look at it and I'm just like the most

1574
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: horriball thing about it is this record means nothing where

1575
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:21,879
Speaker 1: he is now, Like the fact he's in the NFL

1576
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: and he's got a tattoo now that reads that he

1577
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: was undefeated last year at Michigan to be is hilarious,

1578
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: Like what you're gonna do show off the guns to

1579
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 1: like Mike Tomlin on a random Sunday. But you see

1580
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: what we did last year, It's just like like it

1581
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: doesn't even matter. Like if you're gonna do this and

1582
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: stay there for fifteen years, it's one thing. But to

1583
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: do it as you've already left is just the height

1584
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: of Harbaugh to me. Yeah, in all the best ways.

1585
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the tattoo now, I had to bring

1586
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: up the photo. It is a busted looking tattoo.

1587
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 2: It really is man that M has.

1588
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: That m has no girth to it, right, Like, there's

1589
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: no there's no width, there's no depth of field, there's

1590
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: nothing like it is like somebody grabbed a mailbox stencil

1591
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 1: and use that on Jim Harbou's right arm.

1592
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:08,680
Speaker 3: You know.

1593
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 2: But I gotta give you props, Jay Mart because it's

1594
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 2: something that we talked about a couple of weeks ago.

1595
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 2: We were talking about Dan Hurley, Yes at Yucon and

1596
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 2: how he's just different and he's so unfiltered. He'll just

1597
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 2: come out and say it like we knew that if

1598
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 2: we we just let Zach Edy do what he does

1599
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 2: and guard everybody else, they had no chance to beat us.

1600
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 2: And you're like, wow, But Dan Hurley's great for college basketball.

1601
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh was sensational for college football, and it's college

1602
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: football's loss that he's gone back to.

1603
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: The NFL YEP completely. And I could see Dan Hurley

1604
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: getting a terrible looking tattooed as well. In years to come.

1605
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: We got another hour here on Fox Sports Sunday, more

1606
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, more NBA playoffs, all of that's still to come.

1607
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: He's Brian No, I'm Jason Martin, Hour number three after

1608
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,839
Speaker 1: the break right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1609
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Speaker 2: Man, are we acting like this stud is a dud?

1610
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Speaker 2: should be. You know, before we get to the draft stuff,

1616
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 2: just for a couple of minutes here for no no

1617
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 2: reason whatsoever, not that I have a betting app going

1618
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 2: right in front of me or anything. Jane Martin, any

1619
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 2: strong feelings about Pacers Bucks game one this evening.

1620
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: Not really. I mean that's that I'm fascinated to watch it,

1621
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 1: but I don't know what you're gonna get out of

1622
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 1: the Bucks. I just and and the Pacers. It's are

1623
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: the Pacers the classic team of all right, they're ahead

1624
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: of schedule, but now's when they're going to run into

1625
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: the wall. But let's watch them going forward? Or are

1626
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 1: they the team that's going to crash through that wall

1627
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: kool aid style and go a little bit deeper. I

1628
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: don't have any strong feelings one way or the other.

1629
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 1: I think maybe if you've just asked me to lean

1630
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean, do you look at experience or do you

1631
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: look at youth? This is usually the time when a

1632
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: Damian Lillard steps up and has those playoff day you

1633
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 1: lived in Portland, Yeah, like you saw him do this

1634
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: in the past. There's more around him right now. But

1635
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: does the Doc Rivers effect than negated that? That's the

1636
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: question mark for me. I'm just gonna go with where

1637
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: my my heart feels right now and Lean Pacers.

1638
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 2: I can't wait for Dame versus Tyrese. That's a great matchup.

1639
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 2: And remember the the in season tournament where the Bucks

1640
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 2: the ist, Yeah they lost to the You had the

1641
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 2: East they the Bucks lost to the Pacers, and Halliburton

1642
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 2: did the Dame time thing like kind of tapped his

1643
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 2: wrist and it was supposed to be in fun. It

1644
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 2: wasn't quite like Anthony Edwards trash talking KD and KD

1645
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 2: was just kind of smiling and having fun with it.

1646
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 2: Dame is a lot different where it's like, okay, all right,

1647
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure he put that in his memory bank. I'm

1648
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 2: like you, though, I'm curious which Damian Lillard we're gonna

1649
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 2: see here, because with Yannis out, this should be If

1650
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 2: it's vintage Dame, this is attack mode Damian Lillard.

1651
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 1: Five point like shooting from thirty five feet kind of Dame.

1652
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 2: But he hasn't been that guy Milwaukee, and a lot

1653
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 2: of that has to do with he's going through a

1654
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 2: divorce and he's away from his family, and that's had

1655
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 2: a lot to do with it. Some of it's been

1656
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 2: he's playing alongside a superstar with Yannis, and you're not

1657
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 2: gonna get the same volume, the same looks. You're trying

1658
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 2: to figure out your role. But with no Yannie here,

1659
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 2: you would think it's gonna be attack mode. I'm just

1660
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 2: not sure. He's a little bit. He's got a groin

1661
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 2: issue going on, he's got the adductor thing, he had

1662
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 2: surgery on that years ago. And Portland he always has

1663
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 2: like this ab issue going on. So I don't know

1664
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 2: how healthy the guy is, but I'm really curious to

1665
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 2: see how he plays. And also Halliburton, who's sensational, but

1666
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 2: he's dealing with a hamsterring injury. He's not quite himself

1667
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,719
Speaker 2: yet either, So but it should be a good series.

1668
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 2: I got the Pacers in the series. You okay draft

1669
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 2: stuff here. I'm just sitting here. Uh Like, sometimes we're

1670
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 2: in we're into it, we're in it too closely. Well,

1671
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 2: I think you have to take a step back for

1672
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 2: a second. And that's what I just did with Drake May. Okay,

1673
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 2: there was like months ago it was it was supposed

1674
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 2: to be Caleb Williams and Drake May one two, like

1675
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: no questions asked, and then Jaden Daniels had a sensational

1676
01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 2: Heisman winning season at LSU, and now most people have

1677
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels over Drake May. And it's like, okay, I

1678
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 2: get that, but now it's regressed even more for Drake May,

1679
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 2: where most of the conversations are Drake May versus JJ McCarthy,

1680
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 2: and I'm like, wait a minute, whoa, whoa, whoa. I

1681
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 2: don't know why we're getting so much negativity with Drake May.

1682
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. I understand that there are

1683
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 2: some alarming things in terms of reads or throws or

1684
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 2: forcing it or what.

1685
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 1: He also a pretty important by the way.

1686
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: Very important, But it's not like he's screwed up in

1687
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 2: those categories all season long, you know what I mean.

1688
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 2: There's gonna be an alarming thing here or there, but

1689
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 2: it wasn't a consistent thing, just over and over and over.

1690
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 2: Outside the pocket numbers aren't great, but he's got wheels

1691
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 2: he can move. Is this You could look at all

1692
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 2: these prospects, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, pressure to sack rate

1693
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 2: freaking terrible. Okay in college? How's that going to translate

1694
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 2: to the NFL? And I think that both of those guys,

1695
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 2: especially Caleb Williams can be special. But the point I'm

1696
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 2: trying to make is all these quarterbacks have a downside.

1697
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 2: All these quarterbacks have something that is negative that can

1698
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 2: be pointed out. You could be critical of them, you

1699
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 2: can be suspicious. But it seems like we're spending all

1700
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 2: of our time. We went from Caleb Williams and oh

1701
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 2: he was crying and painting his fingernails, and we're like, yeah,

1702
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 2: we're done with that. Let's pick on this Drake May

1703
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 2: guy over here, this freaking guy. It seems like we've

1704
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: shifted from Caleb Williams scrutiny to Drake May scrutiny here.

1705
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that this is cyclically like eventually you

1706
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: run out of things to try and not Caleb Williams

1707
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: for because every time you watch the film and be like,

1708
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 1: oh yeah, they're still like when you see his comparison,

1709
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 1: the name that always pops up his mahomes, which I

1710
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: think does nobody any and I don't think this you

1711
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 1: need to invoke that name. You need to let Caleb

1712
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 1: stand on his own two feet and determine what he's

1713
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: going to be. But when you watch the film and

1714
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: when you watch what he did at Oklahoma and usc

1715
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 1: you recognize how good he is, and so you can

1716
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 1: knock his character or his personality, or his father or

1717
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: all these other things, but eventually it's just noise. And

1718
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: then it gets down to, well, they're still going to

1719
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 1: take him number one, so we probably need to stop

1720
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: knocking him. So what's next, Well, Jaden Daniels won the Heisman,

1721
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 1: and there's not really a whole lot of things to

1722
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 1: say negatively there. Let's go out to Drake May. Because

1723
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 1: Drake May didn't have a great year. He threw a

1724
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: decent number of interceptions, he didn't have a lot around him,

1725
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: but he certainly did not raise the level of the

1726
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: guys around him to the degree that maybe we thought

1727
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: we got McCarthy out here who just went undefeated. We'll

1728
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,759
Speaker 1: forget about the fact that he threw about four passes

1729
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: a game that were actually meaningful, but Drake May's Let's

1730
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 1: also look at the fact he plays at North Carolina

1731
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: and not Michigan. He played in North Carolina, and the

1732
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 1: last couple of guys that played in North Carolina that

1733
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 1: came into the draft that were highly touted Sam Howell,

1734
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 1: and he's out pretty much. And then you look at

1735
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky, who somebody went up to number two to

1736
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,879
Speaker 1: get that, somebody being the Bears, and that was a disaster.

1737
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: Didn't work out, and we still tried to have like

1738
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 1: a reclamation project after he was a backup with the

1739
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 1: Bills and that failed as well. We all like Mitch

1740
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: Trubisky as a guy, but yeah, I don't know about

1741
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: his football player. Maybe they just don't churn out great

1742
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks here. And because there was nothing that just stood

1743
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: out dramatically about Drake May, I think it becomes trendy

1744
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 1: to knock him now because he's been on the radar

1745
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: for so long when it was him and Caleb before

1746
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: the year. If you're done knocking Caleb, what are you

1747
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 1: gonna do? Well, you're gonna knock the other guy. And

1748
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 1: I think that's what's happened. That's why my bold take was,

1749
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 1: I felt like McCarthy might go before Drake May.

1750
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 3: Now.

1751
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 1: When we had Adam Kaplan on last hour, you know,

1752
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 1: he said that, you know, he's talking to people inside

1753
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 1: the league, some of them have a second round, even

1754
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 1: a third round great on McCarthy, and I'm like, well, good,

1755
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: there's still sanity out there, because maybe he is going

1756
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 1: to live up to it and be the number three

1757
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 1: pick if the Vikings were to go up, for example,

1758
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:18,759
Speaker 1: and go grab them or whatever. But we haven't seen enough.

1759
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing about McCarthy right now that would make

1760
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: me place him above Drake May. But I think there

1761
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 1: are some teams that would.

1762
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing to me is this goes back

1763
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 2: to last year. This is something that we heard about

1764
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 2: Ohio State quarterbacks where it's like, who's the good Ohio

1765
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 2: State quarterback before c J. Stroud was drafted? Right, And

1766
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 2: look how that's turned out for CJ.

1767
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 3: Stroud.

1768
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 2: He looked sensational last year. So just because you know

1769
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 2: Terrell Pror or Justin Fields or whoever doesn't pan out, JT.

1770
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: Barrett in the.

1771
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 2: NFL, whoever you want to go with Cardie Old Jones,

1772
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,719
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean the next guy up is doomed to fail.

1773
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 2: I think the same can be true with Drake May

1774
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 2: and the North Carolina Roots. You could play that game

1775
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 2: with a lot of quarterbacks, right, Like it was the

1776
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:13,600
Speaker 2: Tedford curse at col before Aaron Rodgers came around, and

1777
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 2: it's like, well, it's no longer a curse guy.

1778
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: Is what's the best, what's the best example, the best

1779
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 1: example is probably Alabama, Like you look at it now

1780
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 1: and it's turned but for a while it was Aj

1781
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 1: McCarron and it was Greg McIlroy. Yeah, And I mean

1782
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 1: there was a list and USC was another one. I

1783
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:30,600
Speaker 1: mean a lot of the guys in the USC were

1784
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 1: pretty highly touted and they got to the league and

1785
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 1: then you end up with Matt Barkley and it doesn't

1786
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: work out, or you end up with Sanchez and it's

1787
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 1: kind of you know, quicken out and now he's doing

1788
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 1: well in media, and the same thing for Matt Lionert

1789
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 1: and guys like that. So I know it's not an

1790
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: exclusive problem, but I think the difference is the level

1791
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: of brand on the football side. For UNC is just

1792
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 1: not viewed the same way, and I think that that

1793
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 1: might harm him a little bit.

1794
01:29:54,720 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I also think that we we love the highlights, Jason,

1795
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 2: We love highlight plays. That's why a lot of people

1796
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 2: to this day are propping up justin fields as if

1797
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 2: he's good when he's not, because he makes some jaw

1798
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:18,560
Speaker 2: dropping highlight plays with the Bears. He had some insane runs,

1799
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 2: some insane passes, but it's like it's not built you

1800
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 2: can't build a career off of just highlights, right, It's

1801
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 2: gotta be It can't just be the sensational thing that

1802
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 2: you do. It's how consistent are you on third and

1803
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 2: five when there's a little out route that you have

1804
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,719
Speaker 2: to complete to move the chains? Like that stuff matters.

1805
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 2: That's why Mahomes is so sensational. It's not just the

1806
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 2: jaw dropping highlight stuff. It's the simple plays. It's the

1807
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 2: consistency that he plays with. But that's where if you

1808
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 2: bring it back to the draft prospects, Drake May didn't

1809
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 2: produce the highlight plays that Caleb Williams or Jaden Dan

1810
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 2: Annuals produced. And so when you've got like North Carolina

1811
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 2: and that brand, which is not outstanding in college football,

1812
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 2: and then you don't have a lot of those jaw

1813
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 2: dropping highlights that are gonna lead Sports Center, I think

1814
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 2: it turns into like, hey, who are we gonna pick

1815
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 2: on here? You know, It's like, all right, we talked

1816
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 2: trash about Caleb Williams for a little while. Now we're

1817
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 2: outright questioning JJ McCarthy. It's time for some new blood,

1818
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 2: you know. And I feel like you're right, that's a

1819
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 2: great word trendy. It's gotten very trendy to talk about

1820
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 2: the downside of Drake may as if there isn't a

1821
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 2: high upside, which there is.

1822
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you seen the The other thing that's kind

1823
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:45,679
Speaker 1: of mind boggling to me is Spencer Rattler's name starting

1824
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 1: to pop out.

1825
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like yeah, I get a lot They're like, hey, man,

1826
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 2: this guy, right, there's a lot of positivity think about that.

1827
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 2: It was like he was supposed to be the first

1828
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 2: overall pick. It was supposed to be him and Sam Howell, right, yeah,

1829
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 2: and now he's who knows where day three and and

1830
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 2: now the other way people.

1831
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 1: Saying he might go before Penix, he might go. That's

1832
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 1: just like what man. Yeah, there's there's so much smoke

1833
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 1: that gets blown the final week of this, Like we

1834
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 1: got to get to Thursday so that a lot of

1835
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 1: this stuff can be revealed to be what it is,

1836
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: which is just you know, total fiction, like this is

1837
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 1: this is the season of lies, That's what it is,

1838
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 1: Like Spencer, Like Spencer Rattler, You want to talk about

1839
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 1: a fall? What happened to him at Oklahoma and then

1840
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 1: South Carolina? I mean, he wasn't bad, but South Carolina

1841
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:34,879
Speaker 1: didn't have the kind of season that they were expecting

1842
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 1: to have this past year. But now it's like, well, boy,

1843
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 1: his stock is rising again, rising to what exactly it's.

1844
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 2: Turned where it's like, hey, man, if he ends up

1845
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 2: in the right situation, you know, I don't know, it could,

1846
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 2: it's okay.

1847
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: It just there's just that one. Just I was not

1848
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 1: expecting to be reading as much about Spencer Rattler in

1849
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks as I tended to, because

1850
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 1: there's just more articles there. I'm like, wait, there's another

1851
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler piece. Don't you care where is this coming from?

1852
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 7: Don't you guys feel like that's kind of the same

1853
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 7: thing we're doing with JJ McCarthy. Yeah, Like Spencer Rattler

1854
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 7: has all the tools, he has the arm.

1855
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.

1856
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's a good point.

1857
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what a lot of this is most

1858
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 2: of the time, like the players at the very top,

1859
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 2: it seems like we get the magnifying glass out and

1860
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 2: we're like, what doesn't he do well?

1861
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 3: Though?

1862
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 2: Right, because the price is so high, especially if you're

1863
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: trading up for one of those guys. But now that

1864
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,639
Speaker 2: you're kind of getting Spencer Rattler at a quote unquote bargain.

1865
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 2: Now now we look at, well, what can he bring

1866
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 2: to the table. It's just weird how we look at it,

1867
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 2: where I think the guys that are the top prospects

1868
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 2: get picked on the most, and it's just strange how

1869
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 2: that works out. But that's often how it goes.

1870
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it does.

1871
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 3: I just.

1872
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 1: There are a lot of quarterbacks in this draft, and

1873
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: a lot of them are gonna miss. That's just that's

1874
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 1: just the way it goes. I mean, we had that

1875
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 1: conversation last hour or two hours ago about c J.

1876
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 1: Strout what if he had gone to Carolina and Bryce

1877
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 1: Young had gone to Houston. I don't think c J.

1878
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:08,640
Speaker 1: Strou would have had the same kind of season. But

1879
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 1: I also think that we were just wrong on Bryce Young.

1880
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 1: Maybe he's gonna turn around. I hope so. I like

1881
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 1: Bryce Young a lot, but he looked so small out

1882
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 1: there in a way that it didn't strike me the

1883
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 1: same way when he was in Tuscaloosa, Like, all of

1884
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 1: a sudden, he just looked like he didn't belong on

1885
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 1: the same field. He couldn't see over guys all that

1886
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 1: confidence that he played with. I mean, you talk about

1887
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy and what he wasn't asked to do with Michigan.

1888
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 1: Bryce Young did everything for Alabama. He was all they

1889
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 1: had a year ago in his final year after the

1890
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 1: Heisman win, and then he gets to the NFL and

1891
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know what it is, Like maybe

1892
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 1: it was just that was his wall and this league

1893
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 1: is just not because of the way he's built and

1894
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 1: everything else. It's just not there for him. But a

1895
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:00,639
Speaker 1: lot of this does come down to scenario. If let's

1896
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: say we talked about in the first hour, Brian, but

1897
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 1: let's say the Vikings do give up the farm, go

1898
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 1: up to three, take it from the Patriots, and go

1899
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 1: take Drake May at three. Well, Drake Mays walking into

1900
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 1: scenario where he's got weapons, he's got a coach that's

1901
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 1: forward thinking, that's positive in terms of the environment, that's

1902
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 1: created a fan base that has would love to see

1903
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 1: him succeed. They go get Aaron Jones out of their

1904
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 1: own division. Like there's a lot to like about that situation. Like,

1905
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:28,640
Speaker 1: I bet you Mac Jones is looking back, like, man,

1906
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: I wish I could have fallen into that number three pick.

1907
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, man, that would be that's a great landing spot.

1908
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 2: You know, let's get to that around the corner the

1909
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 2: landing spots, because we tend to look at it where

1910
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 2: what can the players do for the teams? What can

1911
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 2: the teams do for the players? Hey, be sure to

1912
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:50,639
Speaker 2: check Fox Sports Radio's Draft coverage out. It's live throughout

1913
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 2: the entire first round that starts this Thursday, beginning at

1914
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 2: eight pm Eastern Time. It's presented by Express Bros, The

1915
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 2: official employment agency. Sports Radio's Draft coverage insider Jay Glazer,

1916
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:07,719
Speaker 2: Former Cardinals GM, Steve Khim, College Football Hall of Famer

1917
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 2: LeVar Arrington, and Big Noon Kickoffs Rob Stone. That's not

1918
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 2: it also Brian No FSR host. I'm just kidding. I'm

1919
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 2: not part of the.

1920
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 1: News here.

1921
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 2: They'll all have by big predictions and reactions to every

1922
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 2: first round pick. That's Thursday at eight pm Eastern Time,

1923
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 2: throughout the entire first round of the draft, live right

1924
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart App, presented

1925
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 2: by Express Pros. What is the best landing spot for

1926
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,759
Speaker 2: a QB? What's the worst landing spot? We'll compare notes.

1927
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 2: He's Jason Martin, I'm Brian No. Hang with us right here.

1928
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:49,759
Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian No he's Jason Martin

1929
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. I'll tell you what, Jay Martin.

1930
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 2: You know me in my metal ways, but I got

1931
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:59,799
Speaker 2: love for dirt on my boots by John Party.

1932
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 3: Kid me.

1933
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:02,600
Speaker 2: This is a mega hit, righting. How can you not

1934
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 2: have a smile on your face when you hear this?

1935
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 1: You kidding me? Look it, I'm not gonna shade this.

1936
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 1: There's no reason to have you ever heard of billy strings?

1937
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 2: I don't think I have.

1938
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 1: All right, you need to look that up after the show.

1939
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 1: Not because of this, I just for some reason, I

1940
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, you need to listen to

1941
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:24,679
Speaker 1: some billy strings.

1942
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:25,759
Speaker 2: I've got a post.

1943
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 1: You need to educate yourself. Look it up.

1944
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 2: I'll check it out, man, I will. I'm writing it

1945
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 2: down to hurt all my boots. I wasn't expecting that.

1946
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 2: That's definitely wild card, very very much wild card. By

1947
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:40,679
Speaker 2: the way, Damian Lillard in attack mode got eleven points quickly.

1948
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 2: We're not even eight minutes into the first quarter here,

1949
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:45,680
Speaker 2: He's got eleven points, hit a couple of threes, so

1950
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 2: this is vintage Dame.

1951
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 1: Thus far, he's got thirteen.

1952
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 2: Actually he's up to he tried another three man he's

1953
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 2: firing away. He's up to thirteen now.

1954
01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: Got thirteen of the seventeen for Milwaukee.

1955
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, where the pace is quickening here. We're

1956
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 2: used to seeing these teams score at will, especially against

1957
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:14,799
Speaker 2: each other, right and it was off to a sluggish start,

1958
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 2: but the pace has picked up quite a bit right here.

1959
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 2: How about this, Jason, if we look at not just

1960
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 2: the players, especially the quarterbacks, and which teams they could

1961
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 2: go to and who they could help the most. We

1962
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 2: always look at it like that, but what can the

1963
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 2: teams do for the quarterbacks? Think about this. We started

1964
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 2: off the show talking about the rumor of maybe the

1965
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:42,560
Speaker 2: Vikings trading up to number three overall with the Patriots

1966
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 2: to get Drake May. Think of the difference between being

1967
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 2: a quarterback with the Patriots right now and being a

1968
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 2: quarterback with the Vikings right now. If that plays out.

1969
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 2: If you're Drake May and New England is sitting there

1970
01:38:56,640 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 2: at number three, and your agent calls you and says, hey,

1971
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 2: I think the Vikings are moving up, You're like, oh

1972
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 2: my gosh, that sounds amazing. That's night and day in

1973
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 2: terms of supporting cast that you have to work with.

1974
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 1: It's true. Now the one difference here. Instantly, Yes, in

1975
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 1: the short term you're definitely right, and maybe in the

1976
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 1: long term you're right too. But you are going to

1977
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 1: a new era with the Patriots. You're going to the

1978
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 1: Jira Mao era. You're not necessarily things are going to

1979
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:25,640
Speaker 1: change to some degree. Now how much are they going

1980
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 1: to change? I don't know, because may Or Mayo was

1981
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 1: there for a long long time. But you're right instantly,

1982
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 1: especially on the offensive side of the ball. If I've

1983
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 1: got Justin Jefferson and Aaron Jones and Hockinson, I've got

1984
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 1: an offensive minded head coach that's forward thinking and has

1985
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 1: shown the ability to maximize guys that are far worse

1986
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:48,800
Speaker 1: than me at the quarterback position and win games with them.

1987
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:51,639
Speaker 1: I like my chances there, I do. And it does

1988
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 1: feel like it just feels like that would be a

1989
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 1: real positive environment to walk into. I don't know that

1990
01:39:56,920 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 1: New England is negative. I think it was trending that way.

1991
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: It's not toxic. It's just kind of flat, like there's

1992
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: not really a good feel and you're just in a

1993
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 1: loaded division.

1994
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 2: Also, man, it's just I'm just looking at coach Kevin

1995
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 2: O'Connell is a great offensive mindre head coach right, and

1996
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 2: Girod Mayo might be. It's similar to what the Texans have,

1997
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 2: you know, like the Texans have a defensive minded head

1998
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 2: coach and Damico Ryans a former linebacker.

1999
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 1: But c. J.

2000
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 2: Strad was just fine. I think sometimes we take that

2001
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:34,759
Speaker 2: a little bit too far. So this is no slight

2002
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 2: towards Gerrod Mayo, who could be a very good head coach.

2003
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 2: It's just that if you're a young quarterback and you

2004
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 2: can work with Kevin O'Connell, I think that's desirable. Yeah,

2005
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 2: I agree, And there's no comparing the personnel like what

2006
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:53,559
Speaker 2: you have in Justin Jefferson and TJ. Hockinson alone. What

2007
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 2: do you have with the Patriots? You've got what do

2008
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 2: Mario Douglas out of Liberty or Kendrick.

2009
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 1: Born still there? Yeah?

2010
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've got Hunter Henry who is good at times,

2011
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 2: but that's not TJ. Hockinson. It's not even close. I

2012
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 2: think that the Vikings would be one of the better

2013
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 2: teams to get drafted by if you're one of these

2014
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 2: top quarterbacks. The Patriots have to be the worst. Who's

2015
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 2: worse than the Patriots at least for the short term.

2016
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 1: Right now? Hmm, yeah, I mean that's a well. I mean, certainly,

2017
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: if you went somewhere where you would be in a

2018
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 1: quarterback competition, you could look at that. But I mean

2019
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 1: Chicago stepped up and got more in the move and

2020
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 1: they've actually done a nice job of trying to build

2021
01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 1: with what they have. So Caleb Williams isn't walking into

2022
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 1: a completely barren cupvered situation. Washington is Washington. But the

2023
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 1: thing about it is the thing that made no sense

2024
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 1: to me last year, and I don't think it will

2025
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 1: continue even though I'm not the world's biggest Dan Quinn

2026
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 1: as your head coach. Fan Terry McLaurin is better than

2027
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 1: he was used last year. He's really good, he's superb.

2028
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 1: He is such a good player. And then you've got Dotson,

2029
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 1: who's a speedster. They got a lot of talent. They've

2030
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 1: got a lot of wide receiver talent in Washington. I

2031
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:09,680
Speaker 1: do look at those situations and it's like, do you

2032
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:11,680
Speaker 1: want to go to Chicago or do you want to

2033
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 1: go to Washington or do you want to go to Minnesota.

2034
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 1: Like I had to change my vocal range in the

2035
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 1: way that I said that because Minnesota's on the cusp

2036
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 1: of the playoffs, whereas those other teams still are on

2037
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 1: the build. Although I do think this Chicago took more

2038
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 1: strides this past season, and you know they're they're more

2039
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 1: ready I think to inherit a quarterback that could be

2040
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 1: ready to take them to the next level than maybe

2041
01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: we thought they would be.

2042
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:40,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about that. Hey, right around the corner.

2043
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 2: If it's true, it can't automatically be negative as well.

2044
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 2: We will get to that story right around the corner,

2045
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 2: But first, Kevin wired with us k Dubb as his

2046
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 2: friends call him from back in the day, Right Kate, Sir,

2047
01:42:57,120 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 2: am I am I allowed to use the same whatever

2048
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 2: you want, Okay, I appreciate that.

2049
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 7: I'm easy here, so, but it came up, where are

2050
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 7: you from? Originally I am from southern California. Lake Forest

2051
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 7: in South Orange County is my hometown.

2052
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, and.

2053
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 7: Then bounced around a few places. Now I'm back here

2054
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 7: in La.

2055
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:20,960
Speaker 2: Do you root for the barely above five hundred Dodgers?

2056
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 7: By the way, yes, I do you do? Okay, barely above.

2057
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:25,640
Speaker 7: That hurts me to hear you say that. I mean,

2058
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 7: it's true, It's true. They have not played up to expectations,

2059
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:32,719
Speaker 7: but it is still early. It is April. I never

2060
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 7: get worried about how a team does in April, nor

2061
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 7: do I get excited either. It's still early. The Dodgers, though,

2062
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 7: did respond to the Mets. They seem to take out

2063
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 7: their frustration on New York because they dropped the first

2064
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 7: two games of that series in frustrating fashion. But the

2065
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 7: Dodgers ten nothing. They blank New York out. In Los Angeles,

2066
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 7: Rockies and Mariners, first game of a doubleheader, it's Colorado

2067
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 7: winning it two to one. It was scoreless for much

2068
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 7: of that game in the forced extra innings before the

2069
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:06,719
Speaker 7: Rockies able to get that win. Second game in action

2070
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 7: between Actually it's gonna get going in about thirty forty

2071
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 7: minutes or so as a day night doubleheader, so that's

2072
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 7: set to get going. Over in Denver Rangers and Braves,

2073
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:17,080
Speaker 7: it's Atlanta in front.

2074
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:17,679
Speaker 6: Three nothing.

2075
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 7: They're on the top of the second inning in Atlanta

2076
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 7: as actually the inning has just ended, so Atlanta three

2077
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:28,719
Speaker 7: nothing as they go to the bottom of the second inning,

2078
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 7: Atlanta coming up to bat. In the NBA, we actually

2079
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:33,760
Speaker 7: have a playoff game going on right now. We had

2080
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 7: two conclude earlier today and right now, it's Milwaukee in

2081
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 7: front of Indiana twenty three to nineteen as they've got

2082
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 7: about a minute in fourteen to go before halftime. Damian

2083
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 7: Lillard with sixteen points so far for Milwaukee. The Clippers

2084
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 7: and Mavericks Western Conference First Round Game one, no Kawhi

2085
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 7: Leonards so is expected to be a difficult time for

2086
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 7: the Clippers, but it was actually the Mavericks who really struggled.

2087
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 7: The Clippers win it one oh nine ninety seven, but

2088
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 7: it wasn't even that close. It was a much larger

2089
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 7: deficit for the Mavericks. They were down by twenty at

2090
01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 7: one point, shot the ball in the low twenties before

2091
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:12,639
Speaker 7: Floria shots kind of cut into that to make it

2092
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 7: seem closer than what it really was. As the Clippers

2093
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 7: win it largely thanks to James hard In twenty eight

2094
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 7: points eight to seventeen, shooting six of eleven from beyond

2095
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 7: the three point RC. If it's a Zubots had a

2096
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:26,599
Speaker 7: double double twenty points, fifteen rebounds, and Paul George had

2097
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 7: twenty two points.

2098
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 6: Contrast that to Dallas.

2099
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, they shot thirty eight point eight percent for the game,

2100
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:33,400
Speaker 7: but again much of that came late in the game.

2101
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 7: Kyrie Irving, Luca Dontrits the only guys who actually did anything.

2102
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:39,280
Speaker 7: Luca had thirty three, Kyrie had thirty one.

2103
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:39,599
Speaker 6: PJ.

2104
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 7: Washington with eleven points the only other guy to score

2105
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 7: in double digits for Dallas on the afternoon, as they

2106
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 7: now face a one nothing series deficit. As LA looking

2107
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 7: to advance. Earlier today, Celtics run away with it against

2108
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 7: the Miami Heat, won fourteen to ninety four. Jason Tatum

2109
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 7: with a triple double twenty three point points, ten rebounds,

2110
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 7: ten assists, But it was a team effort all around.

2111
01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:07,639
Speaker 7: Chris Tops had eighteen points, Derek White had twenty, Jalen

2112
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 7: Brown had seventeen. Sam How's rough the bench at twelve points.

2113
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 7: Al Horford even had at ten points. I can't remember

2114
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 7: the last time I said that, as he was four

2115
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 7: of eight shooting. Bam Adebayo good effort in the lost

2116
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 7: twenty four points off ten of seventeen shooting. Also hav

2117
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 7: himself six boards and three assists. One more game coming

2118
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 7: up in the NBA Tonight nine thirty is a scheduled

2119
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 7: tip between the Pelicans and Thunders, game one of that

2120
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:34,560
Speaker 7: series out in Oklahoma City. NHL Action Jets and Avalanche

2121
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 7: are in the first period about seven minutes ago, and

2122
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 7: it is Winnipeg leading at two to one. Two other

2123
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 7: games earlier today, Battle of the Sunshine State, Game one

2124
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 7: of that series, the Panthers taken an early one nothing

2125
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 7: series lead by edging the Lightning three to two. Rangers

2126
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 7: with a big four to one win over the Capitals

2127
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 7: to take a one to nothing lead in that series.

2128
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 6: Back to you guys, Thank.

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01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 2: You, keV. It's Brian Nough and Jason Martin here with

2130
01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 2: you on Fox Sports Radio. I'll tell you, man, what

2131
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 2: a career Al Horford has had, because I.

2132
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:04,840
Speaker 1: Can't believe it. Like when I heard his name mentioned,

2133
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 1: I forgot Al Horford was still playing.

2134
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 2: Oh man, he's still a really hard yeah of what

2135
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:14,440
Speaker 2: the Celtics do. But when we were watching the NCAA

2136
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:17,719
Speaker 2: tournament and Yukon was winning their second straight, they showed

2137
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:20,639
Speaker 2: all those highlights of Florida because that was the last

2138
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 2: team to repeat before Yukon did, and they showed those

2139
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 2: like the team pictures or whatever, and it was you know,

2140
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 2: the big Three. It was Corey Brewer, it was Joe

2141
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 2: Kiem Noah, it was Al Horford with Florida and it's like, man,

2142
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 2: how long has Joe Kim Noah been retired and Al

2143
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 2: Horford is still doing his thing. Man, he's had a

2144
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 2: sensational career.

2145
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean he's like a statesman too. He's an

2146
01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:50,640
Speaker 1: elder statesman kind of player in the league like he

2147
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 1: was he was in Atlanta forever. Yeah, and he's just

2148
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 1: he's really been good, Like he's been one of those

2149
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 1: kind of players that you know, he's not I can

2150
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 1: end up in the Hall of Fame, but he's definitely

2151
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 1: going to be somebody that contributed and is going to

2152
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:08,639
Speaker 1: be regarded very highly across the NBA when he's done. Yeah.

2153
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 2: By the way, our guy Damian Lillard is locked in.

2154
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:14,720
Speaker 2: Just hit another three. He's up to what sixteen at

2155
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:19,480
Speaker 2: least for the first nineteen in the first quarter. Wowep,

2156
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 2: he's cooking.

2157
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 3: Man.

2158
01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 2: How about this story with Dion Sanders, head coach at

2159
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 2: Colorado and he had fourteen players enter the transfer portal

2160
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 2: and it's the spring portal, and you might have seen

2161
01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:37,719
Speaker 2: his comments where he said, hey, we're good. I trust

2162
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 2: the recruiting team, I trust our coaches, and please please

2163
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 2: have some faith in me. We're good. We're all right.

2164
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 3: We're all right.

2165
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:51,559
Speaker 2: And his former cornerback, this is Cormani McClain. Now he's

2166
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 2: a former five star guy, and he transferred away, and

2167
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 2: he gave a quote believe this was today, Jason. He said,

2168
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 2: I just don't want to play clicks, which is like, wow, man,

2169
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 2: it's one thing to transfer away, but that's gonna be

2170
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 2: the parting shot as you leave, you know, I just

2171
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 2: leave it like this. This is not great for Colorado whatsoever.

2172
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:21,679
Speaker 2: And that's not automatically negative. When you've had a four

2173
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:25,720
Speaker 2: and eight season when it seemed initially like this is

2174
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 2: the it program. They beat TCU, who was in the

2175
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 2: title game the season prior. That was the first game

2176
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:35,120
Speaker 2: of the year. Dion's like do you believe now to

2177
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 2: ed Wardour and it's like, okay, this is the it

2178
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 2: school and it's like the recruiting hasn't been there. The

2179
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 2: transfer portal is going the wrong way for Colorado. I'm

2180
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:51,640
Speaker 2: not rooting for Dion to fail. Dion is sensational for

2181
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:56,720
Speaker 2: college football. It's not automatically negative to point something out like, man,

2182
01:49:56,760 --> 01:50:00,000
Speaker 2: you've got fourteen players entering the portal, including a five

2183
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 2: star guy that on its way out is saying I

2184
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:04,639
Speaker 2: just don't want to play for clicks. None of this

2185
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:06,639
Speaker 2: is good for Colorado.

2186
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:08,640
Speaker 1: No, it's not. I mean I think the number I

2187
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 1: had seen something like they've had twenty five players leave

2188
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 1: and thirty one come in. I think the thing. And

2189
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:17,679
Speaker 1: if you look into the McClean story, there's those guys

2190
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:20,639
Speaker 1: are not fans of one another, meaning McLean and Dion,

2191
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 1: because Dion had been kind of vocal about mcclan needs

2192
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 1: to show up to team meetings, he needs to be

2193
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:30,960
Speaker 1: more ready to go on game day, all of that

2194
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But I will say this, I'll tell

2195
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 1: you what is kind of a bad look is when

2196
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:42,720
Speaker 1: the critique gets kind of pushed back from Dion, who

2197
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 1: then says, I mean, who do we lose? And a

2198
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 1: reporter says starters. He's like where basically he's saying, we

2199
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 1: lost backup scrubs. Yep, that don't matter, and so we're

2200
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. I don't know that we need to

2201
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 1: be saying that, Like, I don't know that that I

2202
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:03,719
Speaker 1: don't know that that's helpful. Like clearly the Dion thing

2203
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 1: is there's some guys that are really going to go

2204
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 1: to the mat and want to play for him, want

2205
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 1: to coach with him. But there I think there is

2206
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 1: another group that can't abide by what he does and

2207
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 1: how he does it and how it's a lot of

2208
01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:19,719
Speaker 1: it is self promotion, a lot of it is about him,

2209
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:22,760
Speaker 1: A lot of it is the whole for clicks thing,

2210
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 1: like it sounds like man with a shot, but there's

2211
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 1: some truth behind it too. Oh Like there's a whole

2212
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 1: lot of pizazz and a whole lot of fluff there.

2213
01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:34,559
Speaker 1: But when the rubber met the road around mid season

2214
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 1: last year, Colorado couldn't win a football game anymore. And

2215
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:39,920
Speaker 1: I think the other problem is if you're going to

2216
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 1: be their long term, are you convinced he's going to

2217
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:44,800
Speaker 1: be their long term? And I don't know the answer

2218
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:47,639
Speaker 1: to that, I really don't. I do think he enjoys

2219
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 1: doing it, and I think he likes coaching, But does

2220
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 1: he like coaching at Colorado? Or is he going to

2221
01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 1: want to find a different method. What's going to happen

2222
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:57,759
Speaker 1: when his sons leave? All of those kinds of things

2223
01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:01,719
Speaker 1: I think play into it. I am not out on Deyon,

2224
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 1: but I said this to Aaron Torres when he asked

2225
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 1: me the same question. I said, I am cocking the

2226
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 1: Dwayne Johnson rock eyebrow. I'm cocking the people's eyebrow towards

2227
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 1: the Colorado program this year. Like I'll continue to watch

2228
01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 1: and give it the benefit of the doubt a little bit,

2229
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 1: but my eye I'm observing closer. My skepticism alarm, my

2230
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:24,639
Speaker 1: red flag alarm is starting to trigger a little bit.

2231
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, there's some really good stuff in there. I

2232
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 2: think that if you're trying to trace back to why

2233
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:36,719
Speaker 2: would a guy like Cormani McLain say after hitting the portal,

2234
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 2: I just don't want to play for clicks, right, Like

2235
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:42,320
Speaker 2: where does that come from? And I think you did

2236
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:44,679
Speaker 2: a good job with that. Where some of that traces

2237
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 2: back to a reporter asking Dion Sanders, you know about

2238
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:51,639
Speaker 2: the players they've lost. He's like, who do we lose? Yeah,

2239
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 2: essentially saying we didn't lose starters, we didn't lose any

2240
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:59,839
Speaker 2: difference makers whatsoever. If you're a competitive person, forget athlete,

2241
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 2: you're just competitive in general. If someone says that about you,

2242
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 2: that's gonna absolutely fire you up and tick you off

2243
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 2: at the same time. And so, yeah, Dion does generate

2244
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:15,480
Speaker 2: some of those comments. I think the thing about clicks,

2245
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 2: I don't think it has to be clicks versus wins,

2246
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:21,439
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, what's wrong with doing

2247
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:27,960
Speaker 2: things that get attention that should lead to better recruiting

2248
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:31,320
Speaker 2: and it being the truly IT program. I don't think

2249
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 2: there's anything with that. I don't think it necessarily gets

2250
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:37,320
Speaker 2: in the way of losing automatically, but I think that's

2251
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 2: what it's turned into. It was Oregon's coach Dan Lanning

2252
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 2: when Oregon lamb baseded Colorado, saying in the locker room,

2253
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 2: they're playing for clicks, we're playing for wins, and I

2254
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 2: always thought that was unfair. You can play for both. Colorado,

2255
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 2: make no mistake, they're playing for both. And I don't

2256
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:59,599
Speaker 2: think being click savvy means all of a sudden you're

2257
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:02,880
Speaker 2: in winning whatsoever. The as one of the best winners

2258
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 2: we've seen in professional sports, So I think we get

2259
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:10,520
Speaker 2: that twisted a lot. But until Colorado gets an offensive

2260
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:13,599
Speaker 2: line and better personnel and starts cranking out the wins,

2261
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:16,640
Speaker 2: that's going to be the perception is that they just

2262
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 2: care about clicks instead of wins, when I don't think

2263
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:19,839
Speaker 2: that's the truth.

2264
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think I think those things being

2265
01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 1: mutually exclusive doesn't make any sense, because most of the

2266
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 1: things that generate clicks are spectacular things, meaning wins, championships,

2267
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:32,680
Speaker 1: all that you're gonna raise your profile if you're doing

2268
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:35,800
Speaker 1: those things, as opposed to the antics, like unless you're

2269
01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 1: winning doun't contests and you're in the G League, like

2270
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 1: generally it comes from success. So I think those things

2271
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 1: kind of go hand in hand. I just think that

2272
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:49,920
Speaker 1: McClain making those comments just reeks of well landing. Took

2273
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:52,720
Speaker 1: a shot that landed, Yeah, so I'm just gonna take

2274
01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 1: the same shot to allude to that, to just make

2275
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 1: sure that I take this wound and dig it in

2276
01:54:58,360 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 1: a little deeper.

2277
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt out all right, Coming up next, Loyalty

2278
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 2: can sometimes be a bad thing. He's Jason Martin. I'm

2279
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 2: Brian No hang with us right here on Fox Sports Radio.

2280
01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 2: He's Jason Martin. I'm Brian No here on Fox Sports Radio.

2281
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:18,400
Speaker 2: So we're in NBA playoff mode. There was a team

2282
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 2: that didn't actually make the playoffs. That would be the

2283
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors, Jason, and the question now becomes what

2284
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 2: do you do? What do you do going forward? And

2285
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting, right, this was earlier in

2286
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 2: the week. This is what Draymond Green had to say

2287
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 2: about the future of the Golden State Warriors. This was

2288
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 2: after they got smacked around by the Sacramento Kings lost

2289
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:47,560
Speaker 2: in the first the game of the play playing around there,

2290
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:49,879
Speaker 2: they were out. So this is Draymond.

2291
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 9: They've shawn nothing but respect, loyalty, love, trust us. So

2292
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 9: I got no reason to go into it like, oh man,

2293
01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 9: they're not going to do right Clay, they did right

2294
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:03,640
Speaker 9: by me, They've done right by stuff, They've done right

2295
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 9: by all of us. You know, Clay got Clay towards

2296
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 9: ACL they paid them one hundred and sixty million dollars.

2297
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 9: So I have no reason to think that our ownership

2298
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 9: group aren't going to take care of us the way

2299
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 9: we've taken care of this organization.

2300
01:56:20,760 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Jason, they don't like any of that. You

2301
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:24,280
Speaker 2: don't like it.

2302
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 1: Huh, You're you couldn't say what you were going to

2303
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 1: say though, I had not heard that quote, so that

2304
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 1: was that was just a yeah, jerk response.

2305
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 2: The thing is, look, man, loyalty can be a bad thing,

2306
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 2: and the Golden State Warriors, I can understand how they

2307
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:43,560
Speaker 2: would have the urge to want to be loyal to

2308
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 2: the guys that laid the groundwork were four championships, but

2309
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:51,040
Speaker 2: the reality is they were a tenth place team that

2310
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 2: got blown out by the Kings, who didn't even make

2311
01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 2: the playoffs themselves. You know what I mean, Like, if

2312
01:56:57,000 --> 01:56:59,160
Speaker 2: you run it back, what do you expect to happen?

2313
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:01,880
Speaker 2: There's a reason why Klay Thompson's coming off the bench

2314
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 2: and went over against the Kings in that play in

2315
01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 2: game right. There's a reason why Bob Myers was like,

2316
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm good, let me do some studio

2317
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:14,160
Speaker 2: work with ESPN instead of coming back as the GM

2318
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:17,480
Speaker 2: the handwritings on the wall man. And if you want

2319
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 2: to win, if you're serious about building around Steph Curry,

2320
01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 2: who is still in hit peak form absolutely an assassin.

2321
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 2: Still it's not with Clay and Dre. It's time to

2322
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:32,560
Speaker 2: revamp and move on if you're serious about winning. If

2323
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:34,960
Speaker 2: you're not, then bring it back, keep the band together,

2324
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 2: sell some tickets, have some feel good moments, but you're

2325
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 2: still going to have to move on from those guys. Eventually.

2326
01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:42,440
Speaker 2: You're better off doing it now than later.

2327
01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 1: Totally agree. I mean, what does do right by me mean? Exactly? Jerrymond,

2328
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 1: because they did right by you by what paying you

2329
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:53,440
Speaker 1: a ton of money to come back and then not

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01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:56,280
Speaker 1: do right by the organization. Like, because that's how I

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01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 1: look at it. I mean, what did he do? He

2332
01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 1: got ejected, suspended, He's not the same player. He creates

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01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 1: more problems than benefits. At this stage, Klay Thompson is

2334
01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:08,560
Speaker 1: just not who he used to be. I mean, he

2335
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 1: had an incredible run, was an amazing defender, obviously an

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01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 1: incredible shooter. But it's kind of over now he needs

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01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:17,640
Speaker 1: to go. He probably goes to LA maybe and plays

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01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:20,680
Speaker 1: there for a little while. But I mean, yeah, like

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01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 1: this organization, I have no qualms about this ownership group

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01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:26,280
Speaker 1: doing right by us doing right. How about they do

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01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:29,360
Speaker 1: right by their organization. How about they do right by

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01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:31,800
Speaker 1: their fans that want to see them win games. And yes,

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01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:34,320
Speaker 1: if you want to do right by one guy right now,

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01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:37,680
Speaker 1: it's Steph because he's still an All Star. None of

2345
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:41,080
Speaker 1: the other ones are, Like, you're gonna do right by

2346
01:58:41,160 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 1: Shaq when he's a Celtic because he's going into the

2347
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. But no, you're gonna do right by

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01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:49,240
Speaker 1: the guy who's still able to go night after night

2349
01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 1: after night. Doesn't mean you don't appreciate what Draymond Green

2350
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:56,080
Speaker 1: or Klay Thompson or anybody else provided that organization during

2351
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 1: the great run. Yeah, but you do have to eventually

2352
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 1: acknowledge that it comes to an end, like it's over

2353
01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 1: doing right now. Needs to be what do we do

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01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:09,320
Speaker 1: for our organization, our fans, all of the people that

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01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:12,080
Speaker 1: are invested in this franchise is success for the next

2356
01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:14,760
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen years. And that is not bringing dray

2357
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 1: Bond back and not bringing Klay Thompson back.

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01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey man, some of these organizations that are in

2359
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 2: tough they have to make tough decisions. There have been

2360
01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:28,880
Speaker 2: iconic players that are embraced and well loved and you're like,

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01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 2: we don't want to get.

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01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:31,000
Speaker 1: Rid of them.

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01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:34,480
Speaker 2: This sucks, but that's what you have to do sometimes.

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01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:37,680
Speaker 2: And there are some franchises that made those tough decisions.

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01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 2: You think the Niners wanted to get rid of Joe Montana,

2366
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 2: Of course not, but it was the best thing for

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01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 2: their future. So if you keep it in the Bay,

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01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 2: I think it's time to turn the page with Clay

2369
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 2: and dre Man, run it back with Steph, build around

2370
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:55,800
Speaker 2: the guy. It was fun hanging with you, Jason always Man. Yeah, definitely,

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01:59:56,160 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 2: everybody keep it locked Sports Radio, have a great evening,

2372
01:59:59,640 --> 02:00:02,240
Speaker 2: joy some chaffs or whatever you feel like doing. Maybe

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Speaker 2: some John party