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Speaker 1: Alright, Hi, every Balliday. My name is Luke Thomas and

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Speaker 1: what is this. This is episode I think fifty nine

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Speaker 1: of my live chat. Thank you so much for joining me.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. I am one half of the

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Speaker 1: hosting duo for Morning Combat, which airs Monday, Wednesday Friday.

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Speaker 1: But today is just my little podcast that I do

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Speaker 1: with each of you. Please give the video a thumbs up,

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Speaker 1: hit that subscribe button, and uh what else. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to get things sorted. I haven't done one

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Speaker 1: But we're back. We are back, ready to go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So without further ado, let's get this party started, shall we?

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Speaker 1: All Right? There you have it. Okay, So, if you're

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Speaker 1: new here, if this is something you've not watched before,

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Speaker 1: I usually put up a thread in the community tab

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Speaker 1: or been over before or something like that. But in general,

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Speaker 1: if you guys ask it, that's what I'll get to today.

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Speaker 1: I just want to be clear about something. Obviously, there

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Speaker 1: was the terrible assault on the nation's capital, the actual

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Speaker 1: just the nation's capital. There will probably be some political

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Speaker 1: talk today. Listen, let me reason with you if I can.

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Speaker 1: I'm not asking you to watch. If that is something

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Speaker 1: if you agree with me, fine, please don't watch today.

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Speaker 1: If that's something you feel like you don't want to

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Speaker 1: relates to those matters, that's okay, no harm, no foul.

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Speaker 1: But what I don't want to see is somebody commenting

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Speaker 1: while I come here for sports opinions. There will be

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Speaker 1: sports opinions, MMA opinions here. Certainly I will have plenty

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Speaker 1: will be a fair bit of things related to that

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Speaker 1: where I live. And if that's something you don't want

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Speaker 1: to hear, this is your opportunity to just go. There'll

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Speaker 1: be another live chat in a week. There'll be other

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Speaker 1: But don't be the guy or the lady who sticks

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Speaker 1: be today. You have been warned, So no excuses. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I understand that. You know, if that became a constant

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Speaker 1: thing you didn't want to see, that's fine. I've tried

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Speaker 1: to dial it back. As I move this from my

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Speaker 1: Patreon that's sort of sitting dormant. I might kick that

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Speaker 1: That's a you know, totally legitimate concern over the long haul,

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Speaker 1: but for today, as today's episode is being considered, you

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Speaker 1: And there's some real Section two thirty liability there, right

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Speaker 1: I know the Rand Corporation has a big study on disinformation.

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Speaker 1: But I'm also the belief that the left wing fascination

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Speaker 1: level love the country that they come from, feel a

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Speaker 1: sense of joy and I did see this on certain parts,

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Speaker 1: feel a sense of joy and relief in trashing the

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Speaker 1: very institution that is supposed to be I realized that it

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Speaker 1: has failed in many ways, but supposed to be the

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Speaker 1: uh hollowed in hallowed grounds by which problems are solved. Boy,

436
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: there is a huge problem underlying that, a huge problem.

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Speaker 1: The last thing I'll say on this is as somebody

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Speaker 1: who finds Donald Trump an utterly repellent odious, I mean,

439
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: what a vandal of democracy he is Jesus Christ. He

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Speaker 1: should be removed from office and prosecutedymediately. But the one

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Speaker 1: thing I will say, and this is a lesson people

442
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Speaker 1: had to learn from Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, is if

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Speaker 1: you just go after him, you are not solving the problem.

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Speaker 1: You are not solving the problem. He is a function

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Speaker 1: of a much deeper issue. He is the outgrowth. He

446
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Speaker 1: is the manifestation of that. And you can go after

447
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: him all you want, but that's not going to solve

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Speaker 1: the problem. If you want to solve the problem, I

449
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Speaker 1: think that leads to the kinds of instability that we're seeing.

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Speaker 1: You have to take up You have to materially improve

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Speaker 1: people's lives. You have to improve people's lives. You have

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Speaker 1: to have a recommitment to civil rights. You have to

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Speaker 1: find and create an economy that gives meaning and purpose

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Speaker 1: and valuable work to young men. And I say young

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Speaker 1: men because women, you know, they're outpacing men in college.

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Speaker 1: They're I think they're getting hired for the rate of

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Speaker 1: I think women are getting hired to eighteen percent of

458
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Speaker 1: higher clip than men these days. I'm not so much

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Speaker 1: worried about them at this stage. And he might be asking, well,

460
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: shouldn't you worried about both? Right? Prisons are ninety percent men,

461
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Speaker 1: both at the federal and at the state level. I mean,

462
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Speaker 1: a society functions when the men are much more likely

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Speaker 1: to work than they are to take up arms because

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Speaker 1: they feel like they can't find work or whatever other

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Speaker 1: grievance that they might have, legitimate or otherwise. So to me,

466
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Speaker 1: this is a major major wake up call about so

467
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Speaker 1: many different things about our information pipeline, about our shared

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Speaker 1: American identity, about you know, policing of important pieces of

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Speaker 1: democratic infrastructure, about the fragility of institutions. I mean going

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Speaker 1: to go on and on, but I just hope folks

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Speaker 1: understand it's very very easy, and it turns people off

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Speaker 1: when protests and turned into riots, and riots from into

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Speaker 1: violence are into mobs. And you want to say oh, well,

474
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Speaker 1: these just must be, you know, crazy actors. Well, maybe

475
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: they are individually, and certainly you would want to prosecute

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Speaker 1: people who break the law. But in either case, in

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00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: either case they are they are telling you, they are

478
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Speaker 1: telling you something is wrong. The growth and popularity of

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, to me, is incomprehensible other than that seventy

480
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: million plus voter for him tells you that something is

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Speaker 1: up in America, that he has attended to that the

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Speaker 1: other side it has not. And figuring out what that

483
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: is and materially improving people's lives all the way through

484
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Speaker 1: reduces violence. It reduces political instability. It reduces political violence.

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Speaker 1: We have to we have to find a way, if

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Speaker 1: at all possible, to stage to get back to that.

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Speaker 1: All right, put a stamp on that for just a second,

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Speaker 1: or a pin in that for just a second. I

489
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: was so fucking angry yesterday, less so today. But I

490
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: was sitting here, right here, watching this monitor. I had

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Speaker 1: my window open right here, and it was just siren

492
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Speaker 1: after siren after siren. A friend of mine lives over

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Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill. He and his wife had to flee

494
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Speaker 1: their home because there were all those we don't wanna

495
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: call them rioters whatever, marching through the stump marching but

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Speaker 1: like sort of road teeming and roaming the streets, and

497
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: said there was like explosions going off and shit like

498
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Speaker 1: it was just crazy. So they went over to they

499
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Speaker 1: went over to Northern Virginia and then stay there for

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Speaker 1: the curfew. It was a bad day yesterday. It was

501
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: a bad day, all right. CBS asked me to do this,

502
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Speaker 1: and I told them no. But he asks who is

503
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Speaker 1: the title holder by the end of twenty twenty one

504
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Speaker 1: in each weight division? I mean, how could anyone possibly

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Speaker 1: know that? I sort of hate these questions because Brian

506
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: Campbell and I debate this all the time. He wants

507
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Speaker 1: to do stuff like this, and I understand the argument

508
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: because listen, I've been in mmy media for what fifteen

509
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: years at this point, sixteen something like that on one

510
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Speaker 1: level or the other, and there's always these questions, you know,

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Speaker 1: let's sort of just sort of speculate for fun about

512
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Speaker 1: who at the end of the year is going to

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Speaker 1: be doing X or y or blah, you know, And

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00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: to me, it's like, I mean, there's some room for prediction.

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Speaker 1: We did that on Wednesday show. So we're talking about

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Speaker 1: like what we think would be the big thing, because

517
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Speaker 1: if you what's the best way to make a prediction,

518
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: it's to see what has already happened in the past,

519
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Speaker 1: process the information, to try to see where that that

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00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: that trajectory might be headed. You might be right or wrong,

521
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Speaker 1: but there is some space for that. I think right,

522
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: and these ones they don't mean anything right. But at

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Speaker 1: the other time, it's like, dude, are we just jacking

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Speaker 1: off in the audience's face? Like to me, it's to me,

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Speaker 1: it's everyone does it, So one is just as a

526
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Speaker 1: just as a differentiator. I don't want MK to do

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Speaker 1: the same things that everybody else does. And part of

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Speaker 1: it is like who the fuck knows? Who the fuck knows? Man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna get popped or injured, or

530
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Speaker 1: what fights are gonna get me. There's no way to know.

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Speaker 1: There's no way to know. So it's a fine question.

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Speaker 1: People ask it all the time. I'm miss maybe I'm

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Speaker 1: missed no fun, you know, And I should be answering it,

534
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Speaker 1: but I always feel like it's I don't want to

535
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Speaker 1: answer questions. I'd rather be wrong than be disingenuous, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like i'd be both probably doing that, and

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Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel right. What happened to the paid questions?

538
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: And then someone asks about DCL skip DC, But what

539
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: happened to the paid questions? So that was a function

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Speaker 1: of my personal channel. We don't only do that here.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know of a better way

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Speaker 1: to replicate that for this channel. If you've got a

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00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: good idea, by all means, let me know. Look Thomas

544
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: news at gmail dot com. But I don't know. I

545
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: don't know what to do about that, because that was

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Speaker 1: a really easy way to, like, you know, skip the

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Speaker 1: que if you wanted to. Maybe I could make good

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Speaker 1: money from that. But I don't know what the best

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: answer to that would be. Do you think Jones versus

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Speaker 1: Izzy will be boring? Considering the stylistic matchup and Hay

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Speaker 1: see the ul versus rumble going. I don't think Jones

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Speaker 1: versus Izzy will be boring because Izzy to me, can

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Speaker 1: fight either way. He can counterfight or he can fight

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Speaker 1: going forward. John to me, I don't know that I

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Speaker 1: would call him a counterfighter. I have to think about

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Speaker 1: this for a second. But John, if you notice, just

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Speaker 1: generally he's gonna get better as the fight goes along,

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Speaker 1: at least in his more recent phase. Right, So if

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Speaker 1: you go and look at the Anthony Smith fight, or

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Speaker 1: in particular like the that was the last fight he

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Speaker 1: had against Dominic Reyes. So in those fights, you know

563
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Speaker 1: he was he would he would, he would, you know,

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Speaker 1: he take his pound of flesh early on, but then

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Speaker 1: he'd really wait, wait, wait, because he understands what it's

566
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Speaker 1: like to fight twenty five minutes. I mean, he's maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe of anybody of currently fighting in the UFC, he

568
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Speaker 1: might know what twenty five minutes asks of you both,

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Speaker 1: you know, from a cordiovascular standpoint to a strategic standpoint,

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Speaker 1: all the spaces in between. He might know that better

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Speaker 1: than anybody. And so I think he wants to use

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Speaker 1: that to his great effect, and he has. Again, I

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Speaker 1: think if you want to ask, why is John still successful?

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Speaker 1: Not not not what he did previously, but like, uh today,

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Speaker 1: how does he fight? To me? His defense is tremendous.

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Speaker 1: I saw Cory interessting me like his defense is not good.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why he would say that his defense

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Speaker 1: is excellent. His offense to me is good, but not

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Speaker 1: what it once was, and that to me, there's a

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Speaker 1: bit of a drop off there, in part because the

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Speaker 1: game has sort of caught up in any case, So

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Speaker 1: the question is like, how much would Izzy press the

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Speaker 1: issue early? Right? How do you beat a guy like

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Speaker 1: John who has good defense, who could be conservative early,

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Speaker 1: Wait until the fight gets a little bit longer. We

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Speaker 1: start to get a little bit tired and not quite

587
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Speaker 1: having the same zip and pop, and that's when he

588
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Speaker 1: really starts to leverage some of his strengths. That's a

589
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Speaker 1: very hard guy to beat. John has extremely high fight IQ,

590
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Speaker 1: he's got good cardio, he's got sensational defense, and he

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Speaker 1: understands twenty five minutes very well. It would be up

592
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Speaker 1: to easy to change some of that dynamic, and I

593
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Speaker 1: think he could. But how he would do it, that's

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Speaker 1: a really interesting question. Would you really press the action

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Speaker 1: early like Dominic did, or would you also try and

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Speaker 1: wait and then match him later when he's got that

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Speaker 1: more intensity and then take that away from him there.

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting question. Yoel versus Rumble. Here's the thing

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Speaker 1: about that, It's like, what is Rumble gonna look like

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Speaker 1: like the same Rumble that fought DC the first or

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Speaker 1: you know, relatively the second time. Okay, that'll be interesting.

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Speaker 1: But like dude, Joel's got a rock chin. You know,

603
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: he's still athletic as shit, and you know he's patient.

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00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: He can fight a little bit more two ways than

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Speaker 1: he used to. But if you go back and watch

606
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Speaker 1: the Luke rock Hole fight, you know he was just defense, defense, defense, offense, defense, defense,

607
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: defense defense wait wait wait, offense or offense than wait?

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was never doing offense and defense. It

609
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: was never slip and go. It was always slip and wait,

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00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: or or a block, block, block and wait. And then

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00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: this time it was against cost. It was a little

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Speaker 1: bit more back and forth. Maybe out of necessity anyway,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Both guys kind of aren't built for

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Speaker 1: the long haul. But maybe Joel a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: He didn't gas all that bad, I thought in the

616
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Speaker 1: coast of fight, So I might slightly lean you well

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Speaker 1: because he seems like more of a known product. But

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Speaker 1: you know, rumble, I mean, you want to count him out?

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Speaker 1: Good luck wouldn't recommend that you got a Twitter reply

620
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: from Edward Snowden, I did what did he mean by quote?

621
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Speaker 1: Recognizing consequence is distinct from contesting propriety. My thought you'd

622
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Speaker 1: have to ask him to be clear. But my read

623
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Speaker 1: on that is, as we were talking about, you know,

624
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Speaker 1: whether or not there was Facebook was justified and banning

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Speaker 1: the president for up to two weeks, and uh, he

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Speaker 1: he did not seem to think that it was prudent

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Speaker 1: that they did, or that he you know, he was

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00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: troubled by it in some way. Again, there's a lot

629
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Speaker 1: of missing pieces of information here. I don't I don't

630
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Speaker 1: want to say that I understand fully his position because

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00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: I do not, But I sort of said, like, what

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Speaker 1: would you what would you have them do? Like a day,

633
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Speaker 1: two days? I mean, the guy contributed to this awful moment.

634
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: He clearly is he could do this again, and then

635
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 1: thirteen days they want to see a peaceful transfer of power,

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Speaker 1: which is one of the key sort of markers of

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00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: stable democracy. What would you have them do? And my

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00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: read on that is he's not saying that. My read

639
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: is that you know, he understands maybe perhaps the impulse

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00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: and the desire for that, but that there's there's negative

641
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: consequences that come from that, and that you know, you

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00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: cross the rubicon at that point. I think in his mind,

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Speaker 1: by doing certain things like that. It's an understandable impulse,

644
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: certainly after yesterday, but that that kind of censorship, that

645
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: kind of tech. Do you want to use the word

646
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: hegemonic behavior? Maybe that that carries its own set of risks,

647
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: which I think is right, I think is right, I

648
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: think is totally right. It's right, it's very very right.

649
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Speaker 1: But you know, the lack of action towards disinformation, it

650
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Speaker 1: also care these risks and serious social harm, demonstrable social harm.

651
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: I would like to see an equal amount of emphasis

652
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Speaker 1: or some fucking kind of emphasis placed on the social

653
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: harm that comes from that. They're so focused about censorship rightly,

654
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: because that's gonna mean. I mean, here was the thing

655
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: I didn't get about yesterday, about these fucking guys who

656
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: did what they did yesterday. It's like, y'all know what's

657
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: gonna happen here, right Like, I'm not in any way

658
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: suggesting that this is good. Maybe some of it is,

659
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: maybe some of it isn't. I don't know. I'm just

660
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: telling you what's inevitable, especially under a Biden administration. Oh

661
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: my god, dude, the FBI is going to be all

662
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: over these people and these QAnon groups and any kind

663
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: of organization, any kind of organized society that they have.

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Speaker 1: FBI is gonna be infiltrating them and on them like

665
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: White on Rice. They're gonna be listening in on phone

666
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: calls if they already don't, but much more than they

667
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: used to. They're gonna have people pretend to be you know,

668
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm Captain Maga, and they're gonna be at meetings. You

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00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: just invited them in. I mean, they were gonna do

670
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: what they were gonna do before, but I mean you

671
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: opened the door for them to come on in and

672
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: totally monitor and be a part of everything you were

673
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Speaker 1: doing in ways that you never ever anticipated. I mean,

674
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: that was the thing I did not get. It's like,

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00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: you know, listen, mob violence is really really rational. Okay, fine,

676
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: but Jesus, the blowback on that one is going to

677
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: be substantial. I don't know how many people are gonna

678
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: round up and then prosecute for I tend to think

679
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: probably not that many. But in terms of the in

680
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: terms of using state surveillance and infiltration through law enforcement

681
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: to monitor their behavior, it is going to be ratcheted

682
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: up times ten going forward. So congratulations. If you were

683
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: paranoid about the government before, I mean it's about to

684
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 1: get a billion times worse for those folks. Good job,

685
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: good job. What are your thoughts about potentially splitting the

686
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: country up? That's so far I don't know. I'm currently

687
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: reading your book recommendation, The Curse of Bigness. I was

688
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: wondering if it would be possible for you to make

689
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: a reading list of your recommendations on a range of

690
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: topics that interest you. I did make one on anti doping.

691
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: I put it on my Instagram. But this this is okay.

692
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: Let me let me tell you guys, where I'm at

693
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: currently in my career. Okay, what I have discovered is

694
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: I have been in a bit of a rut and

695
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: I couldn't quite figure out why. But I think I

696
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: have now. I just don't know how to solve it.

697
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: So I am endlessly happy with Warning Combat. It's the maybe,

698
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: maybe one of the best things I've ever done. Truly.

699
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: I mean that Brian Campbell is the best partner I

700
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: could have ever asked for Showtime CBS Sports. You know,

701
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: for most of my MMA career, I was working in

702
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: places that did not believe in my vision or what

703
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: I thought I had to contribute to the place. But

704
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: that's not the case now, In fact, far from it.

705
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: They are just the most amazing people to work with,

706
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: and if I God forbid, I do. But if I

707
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Speaker 1: died tomorrow, you know, I in many ways got to

708
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Speaker 1: do what I wanted and be a part of an

709
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Speaker 1: experience that I want to be a part of. An

710
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: MK sales, they're up and we're full steam ahead wherever

711
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: we're headed. But I've also noticed that like for me personally,

712
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: I have to have an individual outlet, however small, to

713
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: for individual forms of expression. This live chat is kind

714
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: of an example of that. I mean, I talk about

715
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 1: things on this live chat, hence the first thirty minutes

716
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Speaker 1: that I would never talk about on MK proper, at

717
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: least not very much. And so I got to have

718
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: an outlet for myself. Doesn't have to be as big

719
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: or competing. In fact, that's one of the major problems.

720
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Speaker 1: I could just go do individual videos that I was

721
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: doing before was serious X I'm just uploaded to my

722
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: personal channel, but they would begin to be overlapped there

723
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: with MK. That not the Sunday Evening Digest, but you know,

724
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: day to day kind of a thing. I wouldn't want

725
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: to do that. I think once in a while. It's

726
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: probably no big deal, but all the time would be

727
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: much more of a problem. And so how do I

728
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: solve that problem. One of them is I don't have to.

729
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: My contract states I don't have to, but if I

730
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: wanted to, I could write for CBS Sports. That's one.

731
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Speaker 1: I could find a different way to get my YouTube

732
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Speaker 1: channel going again, but that's been a little bit difficult

733
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Speaker 1: because the other way to do that is with very

734
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Speaker 1: labor intensive videos, and that's been hard for me to

735
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Speaker 1: get that off the ground. The other part is I'm

736
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: trying to recommit to my fitness and that takes up

737
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: a lot of the time. Sort of a choice between

738
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: the two, and the other one is like I could

739
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: do on my own sub stack, And then the other

740
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: one is I could do my own Patreon. If I

741
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: was doing my own Patreon, I could do my own videos.

742
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: I could do a lot of stuff. It would just

743
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: be behind a paywall. I don't know which way to go,

744
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: but I need to do one of them. I need

745
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: to do one of them. I got to figure out

746
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: what that is. If you have any ideas about what

747
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: you'd prefer. I'm not really in theatreon business for the money,

748
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: but more, that substack kind of just makes you write.

749
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: You can do videos and stuff, but it more just

750
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: makes you write. Patreon allows you to do anything. I

751
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: could post photos, videos, individual live chats, you know, written

752
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: stuff there too. It just gives you a wider array

753
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: of options that you know, again, I don't need. I mean,

754
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: the money would be fine, but I don't. I wouldn't

755
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: use it as a way to do that. But the

756
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: other part is, you know what if something happened and

757
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: I lost my job tomorrow, would I have the enough

758
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: infrastructure built where I could, you know, replicate most of

759
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: my earnings. If I had a Patreon and a YouTube channel,

760
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: I could do that. So you know, again, everything is

761
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: fine at CBS. Please don't misunderstand me. It's the best

762
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: thing I've ever done. But you always got to think

763
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: about your future. You have to take care of yourself,

764
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: and so those are things other than I'm kind of

765
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: considering enough. If you have a preference about which direction

766
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: you would like me to go, seriously, I would I

767
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: would really value your input because I am in a

768
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: bit of a creative rut and I'm trying to figure

769
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: out what that is. As I get messages from up

770
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: all right, what sells more pay per views? Spence versus

771
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: Crawford or Garcia versus Davis. Garcia versus Davis, Spence versus

772
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: Crawford does extremely well and is certainly a reward for

773
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Speaker 1: the the diehards. And I think Spence obviously is a

774
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: legitimate pay per view draw. I don't know that Crawford

775
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: is number one, number two. Garcia is more popular than

776
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: all of them, And Davis is not the pay per

777
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: view star that Spence is yet, but he's on his

778
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: way and is more of an attraction than Crawford. So

779
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: if you wanted to say what's a better fight, different consideration,

780
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: If you want to say what's more important, different consideration,

781
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: If you want to say what does better from a

782
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: commercial standpoint, I would very much argue you Garcia versus Davis.

783
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: Please rank an order of most likely to occurred if

784
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: Connor becomes champion. One more than he'll defend his belt regularly.

785
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: Two he'll use champ status's leverage for outside activities. Let's

786
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: say a fight with Pacyao. Three hold up the division

787
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: as he attempts to negotiate better contract. Four retire, five

788
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: go for walterweight. Gotta go for Walter Waight, right, gotta

789
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: go for Walter Waight. He's always thinking big, especially if

790
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: like Gilbert, Well, if Gilbert Burns wins, it's a tough

791
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 1: fight for Connor. But Camorrow is two. But if somehow,

792
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if Jorge had beaten Camorrow, that would

793
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 1: have been big. That would have been big for Connor.

794
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Speaker 1: In your opinion, yes, is word? The word? Word the

795
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: best slang term from the nineties. It can be used

796
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: as a question, an exclamation, and it works even if

797
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: you don't know what to say. It's certainly one of

798
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: the more versatile words. But you know what was my

799
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: favorite word back in the day was blicky, which we

800
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: used to describe like guns, like oh, he's got blikies,

801
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, on them. But then it sort of became

802
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: a sort of a catch all for like thing. It's like, oh,

803
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: that bliky over there. I always liked that word. I

804
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: don't know DC thing. I guess not really a question,

805
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: but I remember you NBC having trouble pronouncing Risin Risen's name.

806
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: By the off chance you give a fuck, Yes, I do,

807
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: even though you don't think I do. It's pronounced like

808
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: rising without the G. Since Japan has landed the rising Sun.

809
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: Their name even has the Z if you look closely,

810
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: so is it rising or rise in? Like risin? Still

811
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: doesn't quite tell me what I need to know, but

812
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: it gets there. My doorbell just ranging, but I've heard it. Hi, Look,

813
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm starting to get into lifting. Was wondering if you

814
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 1: had any advice or resources. Also, what's the membership rate

815
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: at the front yard Gym? It's free player. You just

816
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: got to come when the doors are open, which is

817
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: not very often because it's cool as fuck outside. So

818
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: I've been going. So here's my rule. If it's fifty

819
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: degrees or more, I'll lift outside. Anything sub fifty it's

820
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: hard to stay warm, which is that's what I mean

821
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: the whole It's not like you couldn't be mentally tough

822
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: and do it. But the problem is if you're having

823
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: trouble staying warm, that's when you're gonna get injuries. It's

824
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: really kind of the issue there. So at fifty plus

825
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: sixty is like perfect. Seventy plus is like oh man,

826
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: that's really amazing, But fifty is good enough. If I

827
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: can get fifty one fifty two, I'm all right, okay,

828
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Speaker 1: best information to do this I've said this before, Okay,

829
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Speaker 1: I'll make this as simple as I can. Number one,

830
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: you need to find resources from experts. So check out

831
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: Juggernaut Fitness, check out Renaissance Puritization, check out doctor Mike Isratel,

832
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: Chad Wesley, Smith, Lane Norton, Silent, Mike Alan Thral, any

833
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: of these guys. There's plenty more than that too. But

834
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: any of those guys are going to teach you a

835
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: lot about programming, about technique, about mindset, about fatigue management,

836
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: all the things you sort of need to know to

837
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: do well. That's the first thing I would say. They're

838
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: all on YouTube. It's all free. Don't have to pay

839
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: for anything. They do have other things you can buy

840
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: that they sell, but they have so much good information

841
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: that's free. Start there as the first thing. I'd say.

842
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: Second of all, learn the compound lifts, learn bench dead

843
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: and squat. Learn them. They are technical movements that require

844
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: technical precision. A technical precision will keep you safe, it

845
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: will keep the activity repeatable, and it actually is the

846
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: best way to maximize the load. Okay, so and build

847
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: exercises around them. The basic way to start is start

848
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: with a compound lift and then build three to four

849
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: ex sizes called accessory lifts behind that. Please look up

850
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: these terms. There's a million you can choose from. It's

851
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: a very basic way to program. Find your split, which

852
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: is how many days a week and how you organize

853
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: that training. You can pay for people to do the

854
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: split for you. You can look up splits online that

855
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: are free. Again, you don't have to pay for any

856
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: of this stuff if you just want to look it up,

857
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: but if you do, you can get really customized content.

858
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 1: I think is what I would say. Do I invest

859
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: at all? I have a four to one K. I

860
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 1: think I've got like a roth ira. Is this something

861
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: they interest you know? It does not? And are you

862
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: waiting for a seek boxing IPO? Yeah, I guess I am. Huh,

863
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: but no, I'm not big into that kind of thing. Yeah,

864
00:48:54,920 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: it's BC hitting me up. Oh. UFC will have limited

865
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: attendance at three Card Fight Island stint at the Eddie

866
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: Hodd Arena in uh In Fight Island. That's interesting. Hmm, Okay,

867
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: that's cool. No different than anybody else, I suppose. Also,

868
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: I bet that's probably gonna better than what they've been

869
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: doing in Texas. I'm not a fan of those shows,

870
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, and I know Showtime did one, you know,

871
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: with the with the what you call it, Tank Davis.

872
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: It's fine. I mean, it's certainly in compliance and local government.

873
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: What are you gonna say? But me personally, I'm like,

874
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, no one's really wearing a mask. Everyone's screaming.

875
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: You know, yesterday was the worst day for COVID deaths

876
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: in this country since the whole pandemic. It's like, I'm

877
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: not the biggest fan of the whole thing. What are

878
00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: you gonna do? Uh? Okay. Gilbert Burne recently said that

879
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: Kabee would be his toughest fight at one seventy thoughts, Yeah,

880
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: that might be true. There's no real way to know

881
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: how much his strength woul translate up a weight class.

882
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: Probably pretty well. But you know, let's let's see how

883
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: Gilbert does against Kamaru and then maybe Colby and what

884
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: we can really say that that's true. But certainly there's

885
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: a reason to think that might be the case. For

886
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: as a hobby who shouts to Farraz he's a beast

887
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: said on his live chat that he rewatched Diaz McGregor

888
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: two okay and saw that Connor was running from Nate

889
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: at some point, and that should be a tenne at

890
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: round for Diaz. Which round though? Which round does he

891
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: say that in? I'd have to see his comments, and

892
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: I'd have to see the round, you know. But is

893
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: Farra's right? No one's perfect, and no one gets everything right.

894
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 1: But is Farras always worth hearing out? Yes? For Oz

895
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: is always worth hearing out, even if I disagree sometimes

896
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: because he is that smart. That good? Okay, which one

897
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: fighter will have the largest rise in stock? In term

898
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: of stock however? You may see fit after the upcoming

899
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: three event super Week? Ooh, good question. Well, it could

900
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: have been Comzot or Leon Edwards. I'm tempted to say

901
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: that the winner of Hooker versus Chandler would be that one.

902
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: But what if Partier knocks out McGregor. Maybe you think

903
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: that's unlikely, but like, let's just say, I mean, imm

904
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: is fucking crazy, right? What if Partier knocks out in

905
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: McGregor like viciously chaos? You know, wouldn't true? Wouldn't that

906
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: just transform him? Don't you think? I mean? Not completely,

907
00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: but on a pretty substantial level. So if Connor wins,

908
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure to improve his stock to become champion, assuming

909
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: that the belt is on the line, but it wouldn't

910
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: like radically alter it. If Chandler beats Hooker, that's big.

911
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: Hooker beats Chandler, that's big. Let me just look up

912
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: those cards here for just a second, just to be

913
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: on the safe side. I do feel like if Pier wins,

914
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: and he wins like in an authoritative way, that would

915
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: be huge for his career. Look at everything else on

916
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: that two fifty seven card. Nothing before that? What about

917
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: Ks versus MAGNI See they're sitting at eight and nine

918
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: in the rankings, So the winner gets something out of it,

919
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: But is that transformative in the same way? Probably not.

920
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: There's nothing else in that card that stands out as

921
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: particularly transformative. Holloway versus Cater's a big one. Cater beats

922
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: Holloway and again especially does it very impressively. That would

923
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: be a big jump for him, don't you think. Beating

924
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: the former champion in that weight class and the one

925
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: who has a claim to be one of the better featherweights,

926
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: not the best featherweight to ever. Again that's by Josie Alda,

927
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: but you know, certainly Holloway held his own there as

928
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 1: a very decorated, long standing champion. That would be huge,

929
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: So he's on that list as well. So those are

930
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: my top three. I would say, if Parier wins, that's

931
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: a big one. If if Chandler or Hooker wins, you know,

932
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: and again not controversially but authoritatively, that's big. Or Cater

933
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: over Holloway. Holloway beats Cater. It's not that it doesn't

934
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: mean anything. It would mean a lot, but he's sort

935
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: of expected to be the best guy in that division,

936
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: maybe not named Volkanovsky, so it would be less less

937
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: big for him. Look, or are you into firearms? Do

938
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: you own any? I don't own any, only because it's

939
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: a pain in the ass here. I guess the laws

940
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: have changed since I've been here, but in general, getting

941
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: a firearm here is a pain in the ass. I mean, yes,

942
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: I took my wife on our first date was to

943
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: a gun range. So but here's the thing. I'm not into,

944
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: like gun culture, Like you see all these m fighters

945
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: and shit, you know, you just do guys too. They're

946
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: always on the range and they're doing tactical training. I'm

947
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: not really into that kind of a thing. I got

948
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: most of that out of my system when I was

949
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: in the military. You know, you start firing Mark nineteen

950
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: grenade launchers that where you're the grenades are on a belt.

951
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: It's sort of a belt fed butterfly trigger, you know,

952
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: and you're just watching grenades get slung out into the atmosphere.

953
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: You tend to. For me, it was like, okay, I

954
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: can sort of check it off the list. I'm also

955
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: for you know what I think what firearm enthusiasts would

956
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: consider to be restrictive gun laws. I am absolutely in

957
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: favor of that. I don't make any apologies for it.

958
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: But like, do I enjoy in a regulated, safe atmosphere?

959
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: Do I enjoy shooting firearms and learning about them? Do

960
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 1: I like, you know, some of the more modular aspects

961
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: of the AR fifteen I do. I tend to be

962
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: more of the long range precision slow day, you know,

963
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: taking your time with a shot kind of a thing,

964
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: versus pulling out the pistol and I'm running through an

965
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: at the school course. That shit doesn't interest me? How

966
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: much more interested in the in the finer details of

967
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: long range morksmanship. But I do love, I do love

968
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: firearms in that way. Which would you like to see most?

969
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: For Masvitol wonder Boy, No Colby or Connor second or third,

970
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: we've seen what happens with a wonder Boy fight. Maybe

971
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: maybe the rematch would be different, certainly the way there's

972
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: a reason to think that might be the case. But

973
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: Colby is a freshman. I mean, how do you not

974
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: want to see Jorge versus Colby? How do you not

975
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: want to see that? You know, I don't understand that.

976
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: I would imagine you wouldn't want to see that on

977
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: a pretty substantial level. So the Connor fight, I mean,

978
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: would just be amazing. But yeah, I think my top

979
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: which is probably gonna be Colby for that one. All right,

980
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: This person writes, shab downplayed COVID, got COVID, but y'all

981
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: love to bash Brendan Shobb. To me, that is amazing.

982
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: Y'all got some kind of hang up with this dude

983
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: that you want me to have too. I don't know why,

984
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: but okay, shob downplayed COVID, got COVID, criticized the government

985
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: for the lockdowns, and then received a twenty two K

986
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: loan completely forgiven to play to pay employees, all the

987
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: while he brags about how wealthy he is. The rest

988
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: of the country received six hundred dollars either he is

989
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: lying about how rich he is or is just exploiting

990
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: the system. I saw that there were a lot of

991
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: people who were well, you know, first of all, I

992
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: have no problems whatsoever with Bloodyobo and Trent Ryan's I

993
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: think is Rainsmith Ryan Smith another I mispronounced his name.

994
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: Putting together a list of who has taken PPP loans

995
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,959
Speaker 1: or you know, grants, depending on how it all turns

996
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: out terms the forgiveness level, I don't have any problem

997
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: with that. That should be public information. That's fine. And you

998
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: saw a bunch of actors on it. Took some first round,

999
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: management took some. There's a bunch of gyms, took some,

1000
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 1: a pretty substantial one I think from Javier A. Mendez.

1001
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what is supposed to be controversial about that.

1002
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: I know that there was an argument that was made that,

1003
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: like a lot of these guys have real, you know,

1004
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: Horatio Alger up from the bootstraps, take care of yourself

1005
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: kind of attitudes, and here they are taking money from

1006
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: the government. What it's like, Maybe I'm missing something here.

1007
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: All of their livelihoods were badly impacted. I don't know

1008
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: the individual specifics of everyone. Let's assume that no one

1009
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: took money based on documentation that was fraudulent. Okay, So like,

1010
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: unless you're claiming that this money is from fraud, which

1011
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: I am not, why would they want to take it.

1012
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: The various governments state to state instituted lockdowns that shut

1013
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: down all but essential businesses for some time. There was

1014
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: a slow reopening in pockets and certain parts of the country.

1015
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: But if you were a gym owner or i know,

1016
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: shop in a substantial amount of income through touring through

1017
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: comedy acts. Again, I don't know exactly how what the

1018
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: toy two K went to. I don't have to talk

1019
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: to him. I don't know. Again, I'm assuming it's not fraud.

1020
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: They should get money. I mean, here is the problem

1021
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: with the way we did lockdowns. The argument is not

1022
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: that they should not get money. The argument is that

1023
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: we did not give enough money. If you are going

1024
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: to lock down someone's business, a restaurant, a movie theater,

1025
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: the government, particularly if there's a these are really affected businesses, right,

1026
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: because there is at least some data to suggest that

1027
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: indoor dining is particularly bad for you, or you know,

1028
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: sitting in a movie theater where everyone coughing up COVID

1029
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: probably not the best idea. They've been really, really hurt. Okay,

1030
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: if you were going to shut them down, yes, they

1031
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: should be paid to be closed. We have the money

1032
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: to do it. It's a choice that we are not

1033
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: saving movie theaters. It is a choice that we are

1034
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: not saving bars and restaurants. We are just asking them

1035
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 1: to figure it the fuck out. Or maybe they're lucky,

1036
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: lucky to an extent, or whatever you want to call it,

1037
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: and they're in a state with somewhat permissive laws about

1038
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: what they can do it and they're trying to do

1039
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: to their best to stay in business. Like dude, the

1040
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: argument is not that people took money. The argument is

1041
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: we didn't give enough of it out. And these are

1042
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: not normal economic circumstances. These are not people competing in

1043
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: a open market. This is a terribly fucked up market

1044
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: with the government imposing serious restrictions, at least for a

1045
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: time anyway, on what you could and could not do. Dude,

1046
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: The argument is not that they should not have gotten money.

1047
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: We didn't give enough of it out. We're still not

1048
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: giving enough of it out. It's a huge problem. It's

1049
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: a huge problem. It is a policy choice. It is

1050
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: a choice that we are making Congress fucking adjourned today,

1051
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: and you know, I know they put out six hundred

1052
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: dollars checks. We'll see what happens with the two thousand,

1053
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: you know. I hope that these I hope that the

1054
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: Biden administration gets a move on that. I don't know

1055
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: that they will. I guess we'll see, but that that

1056
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: is the kind of thing we should be doing two

1057
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: thousand dollars checks for individuals, particularly those with children, and

1058
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: we should be helping businesses in this country stay afloat.

1059
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: We should be having a much better vaccine effort guided

1060
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Speaker 1: at the federal level, and we should be rounding the

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Speaker 1: fucking corner on this. I am not going to shame

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Speaker 1: people and businesses for taking money in extraordinary circumstances that

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Speaker 1: has affected their livelihood or the health of the business itself.

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Speaker 1: Maybe shop has you know, significant financial reserves personally, but

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Speaker 1: whatever business that the money was awarded to was damaged. Again,

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Speaker 1: the particulars I don't know, But unless it's fraud, like

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Speaker 1: just straight up fraud, illegal fraud, I'm of the belief

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Speaker 1: that on it probably deserve to get money. You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm of the belief that first round management deserve to

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Speaker 1: get money or whatever the case, like, just go to

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Speaker 1: especially those gyms. They deserve to get that money. And

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Speaker 1: then some one hundred and fifty grand that they gave

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Speaker 1: to Javier Amendez probably isn't even close to enough. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the guy lives in northern California. It's insanely expensive real estate.

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Speaker 1: He had to shut down like they couldn't do fuck

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Speaker 1: all in that gym. I mean, that's just incredibly damaging

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Speaker 1: for people's livelihood. Pay them, pay them. And if you

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Speaker 1: had a business where you can't make the wage you

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Speaker 1: could put, you come off your own pockets because you're rich.

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Speaker 1: But that's not how businesses should work. The government should

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Speaker 1: fucking pay you. I don't I don't see what's I don't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't buy that there was hypocrisy there. Sorry, not

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Speaker 1: for not for any of those folks, and there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of those folks in that list I don't want

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Speaker 1: to particularly care for. It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: what you care for personally. What matters is what's fair

1087
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: and what's right. You're gonna shut people down, and you

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01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: have the money to pay them, fucking pay them, simple

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Speaker 1: as that. Do you know how you know any problems

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Speaker 1: that would have solved in this country if our leaders

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Speaker 1: had elected to take on choices like that. How much

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Speaker 1: simpler it would have been this whole time and less divisive. Luke,

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Speaker 1: who would win in a fight? Jay or the co

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Speaker 1: host Morning Combat? Brian's a lot bigger. Jay's got some spunk,

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Speaker 1: as y'all saw in that video, but probably Brian. Are

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Speaker 1: you a fan of Children of Botom I The answer

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01:02:58,520 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: is I'd be lying if I said I was a

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01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: huge fan. I've gotten into them more recently, but not

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01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: enough to be like, yeah, but yes, obviously the is

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Speaker 1: you right here? Thoughts of the lead singer and guitars

1101
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: for Tuoso Alexi Leo I don't know how pronounce his

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Speaker 1: last name die at the age of forty one. I'm

1103
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:21,959
Speaker 1: obviously tragic. Did you see John Schaefer of the band

1104
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: Iced Earth got outed by fans to the FBI. I

1105
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: saw a little bit of that. Wasn't there somebody else too?

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Speaker 1: From some metal band that you know? Super Maga guy,

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01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the dudes from Slayer Omaga guys, right.

1108
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Speaker 1: Something to be said about that. What do you think

1109
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: the ratio is of MM fighters who have a counter

1110
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: striking style that is the direct result of their traditional

1111
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: martial arts influences versus fighters that just don't like getting hit,

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01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: so they gain their style by trying to be as

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01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: comfortable as possible during sparring. That's a great question. I

1114
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: would imagine that the majority of MMA fighters that are

1115
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: going to be the latter, a lot of them just

1116
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: simply do not have traditional martial arts backgrounds or very

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01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: very minimal ones that did not have any lasting impact

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01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: on their sensibilities about how they want to compete. So

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Speaker 1: I would say it's probably much more the latter, but

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Speaker 1: you don't obviously a big one would be like a

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Speaker 1: wonder boy I think to an extent is does San

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Speaker 1: Hagan have any traditional background? I think he might have

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01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of one, so maybe that might be

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01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: a borderline case. But you know, then you got guys

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Speaker 1: like Anthony Pettis who have tekwondo backgrounds and they just

1126
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Speaker 1: have a totally fucking insane style. Question about Chase Young, Yes,

1127
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Speaker 1: he is awesome. Are there anyone that like super thumbed up? Here?

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Speaker 1: Would less to know what you think of The al

1129
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: Joe versus Yon fight should have happened already, but I

1130
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: don't remember anyone really breaking it down to begin with, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is an interesting one to me. It's gonna be

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01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: al jamn Sterling can do this with a very smart,

1133
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: disciplined game plan, which is to say, if you look

1134
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: at al jaban excuse me, if you look at Yahn's

1135
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: takedown defence and scrambling, it is absurdly good. He might

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01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: get taken down, which is to say, they might pick

1137
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: him up and sit him on his rear, but he

1138
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: gets up fast and he breaks contact and fights the

1139
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: hands very quickly. He is hard to keep down and

1140
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Speaker 1: maintain any kind of control over, and of course that

1141
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: looks bad. It's draining, you know, for the opponent to

1142
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: go through that kind of a thing. So what is

1143
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: Aljo's options. Well, I don't think you can just totally

1144
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: abandon the ground. I tend to think his best work

1145
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: happens there. But he also has the ability to fight

1146
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: long front kicks, a great jab, a great job with

1147
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: lateral movement. I really feel like al Jo's if the

1148
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: jab is not working, he's going to have some problems. Conversely,

1149
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Speaker 1: if he's really able to maintain distance or you know,

1150
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: teeps or whatever, and the jab and other things like that,

1151
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: that's a very very able fight for him, provided he

1152
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: can really stick to that. You know, it's hard to

1153
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: win a fight off your jab in Mma, of course

1154
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't just use the jab. It combines

1155
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: with many other details, but as the centerpiece, as the focus,

1156
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: as the real lynchpin of your game. You know. The

1157
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: second fight with cost Check and Saint Pierre I think

1158
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: was like that. I think that's right, the one in

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01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: Montreal that blew up cost Jack's face. Gesp was just

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Speaker 1: working the jab, just absolutely firing it over and over

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Speaker 1: and over again, and it disrupted the rhythm of cost

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01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: Check and it hurt him over time. It broke his face,

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Speaker 1: and it maintained distance, and it just did so many

1164
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Speaker 1: impressive important things for Saint Pierre. It was such a

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Speaker 1: great use of the jab, you know, something like that

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Speaker 1: ish I think he would have to do, and he could. Conversely,

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Speaker 1: if if Yon could get inside and really tear up

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01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: the legs or the body or slow down the movement,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think of Aljo, he would be in trouble.

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Speaker 1: So he has to get close enough to land with

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Speaker 1: combinations to do his best work, and some of those

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Speaker 1: involve kicking range without being wrapped up, and so I think, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, tricking Al Joe using his lateral movement against

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01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: him getting inside of the jab range. Those are going

1175
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: to be pretty critical considerations then clinch breaking and scrambling.

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Speaker 1: M anything good here. In regards to the Garcia versus

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Speaker 1: Campbell fight, Garcia seemed to constantly take the lead inside

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Speaker 1: foot position even when the outside foot position was available.

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Speaker 1: Was this his strategy? Well, I would say more that

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01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: Campbell was very diligent about taking the outside foot position,

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01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: and so it was a question of who was really

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01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: actively seeking it, because I think he wanted his straight

1183
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: or his cross to really have an impact there, whereas

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01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: with Garcia he had the ability to go to the

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01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: body with his lead hand and then of course you

1186
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: don't mind traditionally giving up inside position if you're going

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01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: to go to the jab. And so that was a

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Speaker 1: big part of well, I won't to say a jab

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01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: was a big part, but those are ready weapons, and

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Speaker 1: I think he was actively exploiting and so in that

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01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: particular sense, not that big a sacrifice, whereas Campbell really

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Speaker 1: want I mean, that was what dropped him right, was

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: he went low and then high, and he did it

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Speaker 1: with the crosshand. All right, let's see any other MMA questions,

1195
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: because I've been over a bunch of other stuff. Bob

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01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 1: Dylan fan sort of are you allowed to lift in

1197
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: your front yard during curfew? Luckily it's too cold for

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01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: me to find out. Um worst weightlifting injuries sustained. I

1199
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Speaker 1: tore my laborum doing decline bench. Had to get surgery

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Speaker 1: on it. It's pretty fucking bad. Jesus. All kinds of

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01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 1: questions about the Capitol, you can skip all that. Oh,

1202
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Speaker 1: here we go. We'll end on this following the election results,

1203
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: wondering how the ALI Act would affect the product of

1204
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: the UFC and other promotions. Put out cheers boys. I mean,

1205
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what kind of legislative push or

1206
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 1: priority it's going to have, given that there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: these committee realignments and restaffing that have to have happen

1208
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 1: in you know, continuing resolutions and whatnot. But this is

1209
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: an interesting question that folks need to ask themselves. It's

1210
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: one that I wrestle with all the time. If you

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01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: want the ALI Act in MMA, you want a scenario

1212
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: where you are going to bring to bear in many ways,

1213
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: boxing's architecture in order to have the protections and freedoms

1214
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: for the athletes to have the leverage that they need

1215
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 1: to have, and then the purses that they need to have.

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01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 1: It would take time for all that to realign, but

1217
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: over time it would get you know, probably somewhere a

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Speaker 1: close ish. Okay, I don't know that I want that.

1219
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I don't. It's something I wrestle with.

1220
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: So you might ask me tomorrow and I might feel differently.

1221
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 1: But here's what I mean. What would be better to have?

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01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I want boxing paydays. I don't know that

1223
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 1: I want boxing. One of the great things that you

1224
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: have see Enjoys is that their interests are very aligned

1225
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: with the consumers in terms of what they want, what

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01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: they want to produce. Is I mean, these are fight

1227
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: fans themselves, there's a direct alignment. But the problem is

1228
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: the fighters simply have no say, they have no leverage,

1229
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: they have nothing really to protect them to get what

1230
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be getting. And that doesn't seem like

1231
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,799
Speaker 1: a very workable long term or fair solution either, considering

1232
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: what they are sacrificing in the process. Now, is the

1233
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 1: answer reunion? Maybe, certainly a union would be better than

1234
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: what we have now. There would be a pretty significant

1235
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: bump and pay among a series of other protections. But

1236
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: because there would be no free agency, some of the

1237
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: mechanisms to really get you closer to that fifty percent

1238
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: that competitive marketplace are missing. So how much would it

1239
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: get raised? Thirty thirty five percent something like that, That

1240
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: would still keep you well short. But if you were

1241
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: able to get a bump and pay and pay structure,

1242
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: if you were able to get some of the money

1243
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: from the television rights, if you were able to get

1244
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 1: better at pay per viewpoints, right, is that enough to

1245
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: say that's a better arrangement where you're giving something back

1246
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: to the fighters, You're giving them control, You're forcing them

1247
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: in the UFC to then negotiate with them legally, right

1248
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: versus let's just take the architecture of boxing and get

1249
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: these guys these huge paydays again relatively speaking for that

1250
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: upper tier. But now you have all these You've inherited

1251
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: all these other structural problems. I don't know that I'm

1252
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: a fan of that, but I'm also not a fan

1253
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: of them not getting fifty percent. And maybe the only

1254
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 1: way to get them a fifty percent is to do

1255
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: the other side of things. It's a really, really difficult

1256
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: problem to navigate, but it will be interesting to see

1257
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: because the UFC lobbied hard. They lobbied hard to keep

1258
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: the Aliact dead in Congress, and it worked. It worked,

1259
01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 1: It worked very well. I don't know what appetite Representative

1260
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 1: Mark Wayne Mullen, who was a true Trump guy, if

1261
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: ever there was one. He was the original sponsor of this.

1262
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: The guy fought three times in Mma and professionally and

1263
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: then became later on became a congressman I've had on

1264
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: my shows. He's a great guy. Obviously we don't agree

1265
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: on much politically, but certainly he's an interesting figure to

1266
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: talk to. I don't know what the plan is with that,

1267
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Speaker 1: and to reintroduce it and get it to move through

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Speaker 1: Committee and then to the floor and then blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: But you know, nobody paid attention to the fact that,

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Speaker 1: again under different legislative circumstances, but the rod Tchenkov Act,

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Speaker 1: which criminalized doping not for athletes but for people who

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Speaker 1: facilitate it. They're putting motherfuckers in jail. Now that just

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Speaker 1: breezed through Congress on a bipartisan basis. No problem with

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Speaker 1: this different administration and different folks pushing things through committee

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Speaker 1: and making it to the floor potentially, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: Biden would have a willingness, you know, to sign legislation

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Speaker 1: like that. Could get interesting, could get interesting. All right,

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Speaker 1: do hit me up on email, Luke Thomas news at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Next week it'll probably be mostly sports, okay, folks,

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Speaker 1: so you know, don't get your panties in a bunch please,

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Speaker 1: all right, you know you didn't want to hear my opinion,

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Speaker 1: Just go and not listen to my opinion. It's okay,

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Speaker 1: it won't hurt my feelings. We're back tomorrow eleven am

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Speaker 1: in the East, Live Morning Combat ME and BC. It's

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Speaker 1: the last weekend without MMA for a little while, because

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Speaker 1: this weekend is going to be quiet, and then the

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Speaker 1: one after that is going to be allowed it is.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be huge. So let's get ready. Let's get

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Speaker 1: ready to do this kind of thing. Should be a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. Thank you guys so much for watching.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Until next time, Stay frosty bit

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Speaker 1: Jezz