1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Strictly Business, Variety's weekly podcast featuring conversations with 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: industry leaders about the business of media and entertainment. I'm 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: your host, Cynthia Littleton, co editor in chief of Variety. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Today's episode features highlights from two lively and informative panels 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: that Variety hosted on September twenty fifth at our annual 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: Entertainment and Technology conference in Los Angeles. The day was 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: packed with great speakers who got right to the point 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: of the day, the intersection of Hollywood and Silicon Valley. 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: Last week's Strictly Business episode featured the opening panel of 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: the Entertainment and Technology event, a session I moderated with 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: the group of heavyweight TV and streaming executives. This week's 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: installment opens with highlights from the final session of the day. 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: My great colleague Mark Malkin, Vrighty's senior editor of Culture 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: and Events, moderated in session with the fabulous representative sample 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: of successful digital media entrepreneurs slash Personalities. Then after that 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: we'll hear a slice of my conversation with streaming pioneer 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: Jack Perry, CEO of ZEM and the inimitable John Stamos. 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: The two spoke with me about their partnership on the 19 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: zine's streaming platform, which is in the middle of a 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: very ambitious buildout. Mark's conversation with the six Digital multi 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: hyphenates ranges widely, and it can be hard to keep 22 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: track of who's who unless you happen to be a 23 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: super fan of all of them. But it's really more 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: about listening to the points they make on how younger 25 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: and older millennials view their opportunities in the entertainment arena 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: these days. Mark also gets them to talk about their 27 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: own entertainment and social media habits and preferences. Regular listeners 28 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: of Strictly Business know that I love nothing more than 29 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: talking to everyday people at conferences and fan conventions about 30 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: what they watch, how they watch, when they watch at all. 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: It's fascinating, So enjoy the ride here as Mark converses 32 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: with Nicole Byer, host of Why Don't You Date Me? 33 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: Aaron and Sarah Foster, executive producers of Nobody Wants This, 34 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: and hosts of the world's first podcast, Matt Rogers, host 35 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: of Las Culturistas, Jake Shane, host of therapust and Benito Skinner, creator, writer, 36 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: executive producer and star of Overcompensating and host of Ride. 37 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 2: Here's the panel, so let's do a little introduction. Nicole 38 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: Bayer host Why Don't You Date Me? 39 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 3: Who? 40 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 4: This is their podcast? 41 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: Aaron Foster, Sarah Foster, EP Nobody Wants This and host 42 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: of the World's First podcast, Thanks Sarah. 43 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: Thanks. 44 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: Aaron Fosser, creator, writer and EP of Nobody Wants This 45 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: and host the World's First Put Put Jake Shane, host 46 00:02:51,120 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: of Therapists, Benito Skinner, creator writer, EP actor Compensating and 47 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: host Ride. And Matt Rogers He Does Like Everything Also, 48 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: and hosts of Last Say Them All. 49 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 4: Chapter, Makeup Artists, costume designer, influencer or host Lost Carter Recess. 50 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: Hi, everybody. I want to start off with just asking 51 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: about the platforms, the apps that you guys are scrolling 52 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: the most. I want to know where are you looking 53 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: for stories? What are you enjoying the most? 54 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 5: I love Instagram. I love it so much. Give me pictures, 55 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 5: give me videos. I'm happy. 56 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: What about you, Sarah? 57 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 5: Oh? 58 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think Instagram obviously is the place 59 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: that I am the most. It moves the needle the most. 60 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: I think for our businesses. It's football season, so I'm 61 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: on YouTube a lot. 62 00:03:58,560 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 5: No, you go on Twitter a lot too. 63 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know the algorithm is. 64 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 6: I'm so curious to see what the I mean, Nicole, 65 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 6: you're much younger than us two, but we're like the 66 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 6: young people think of us saying Instagram because I do 67 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 6: think it makes us seem old, because Instagram is like millennials, 68 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 6: and it is the only platform I look at. And 69 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 6: then when I'm feeling like really disgusting and dirty, I'll 70 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 6: go on the Daily Mail just to like feel really 71 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 6: bad about myself. And now they've changed it up where 72 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 6: like most of the interesting things are like exclusives you 73 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 6: have to pay, and I'm like, I'm obviously not going 74 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 6: to pay for that. But on a dark day, like 75 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 6: you never know, I. 76 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 7: Also read the Daily Mail, but only on like the 77 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 7: Snapchat daily mail app. 78 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, I think darker. 79 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 7: It's awesome. 80 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 5: I guarantee you Aaron does not have a same. 81 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 7: No, they pick out the they pick out the best stories. 82 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: You. 83 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: He just read you so much. 84 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: I don't even have Snapchat. 85 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 7: It's amazing, and I read the ones I'm most interested in, 86 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 7: but I use TikTok the most probably or sometimes Twitter. 87 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 7: I just think it's interesting. I like all the charte 88 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 7: accounts that talk about different pop girls. Yeah, so same. 89 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 5: I feel like Instagram was my first love. 90 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 7: I love it so much so that and then I'm 91 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 7: on TikTok a lot, I would say. 92 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 8: And then I don't even go near Twitter because I 93 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 8: can't hate myself more. Yeah, deeply Instagram, I'm the same. 94 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 8: And also I'm gonna give like a millennial answer too. 95 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 8: I guess an aging millennial answer here, like the end 96 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 8: Dell Sleep app is everything, like all sorts of soundscapes. 97 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 5: And I'm a YouTube person too. I will just refresh 98 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 5: the YouTube. 99 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 8: I think I'm part of the problem, like not watching 100 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 8: TV because I will just refresh YouTube and that's the day. 101 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, do any of you watch TV? Yeah? 102 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 8: I watched over compensating Sason, one of them run, I 103 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 8: did it. I saw on Instagram the new trailer where 104 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 8: nobody wants this today? 105 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 5: I'm better. 106 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 9: Hello. 107 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: Obviously all of you are on multiple platforms. How do 108 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: you decide what goes to what platform? 109 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 5: Length of the clip. 110 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 6: Well, I was just wondering how many platforms there are, 111 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 6: like where does it go? Because I don't really know. 112 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 8: I couldn't think of anything besides Instagram for the app question. 113 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 5: So I don't know, I like. 114 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 9: Don't utilize or sorry you go you first. 115 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: I would way rather hear from you about platforms because 116 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: I really. 117 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 7: Am for Instagram, it usually is just photos. I don't 118 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 7: really sometimes all do videos, but most I really just 119 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 7: kind of do the distinction. Well, if it's a photo, 120 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 7: I'll do Instagram. If it's a video, I'll do TikTok. 121 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 7: And that's really just as simple as it is for me. 122 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: It's a really scientific method. 123 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 3: I feel like we have this conversation all the time 124 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: is how best to utilize social. 125 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 5: Media to our advantage? 126 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: Right, we have a fashion brand, we have a podcast, 127 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: we have you know stuff. 128 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 9: But the truth is we don't do a good job 129 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 9: with it. 130 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 3: We don't have social media managers. Anything you see is 131 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: just us like all right, like let's put it out there, 132 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: but we don't. 133 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 9: And of course Instagram for favorite daughter. 134 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: No, I don't think we do a very good job 135 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: on actually like utilizing. I think we have ten people 136 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: watching on YouTube. 137 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 9: Of our podcast. 138 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 5: Like that's not a joke. 139 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 10: Like I do this like really cool trick where I 140 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 10: post the same thing on Instagram and TikTok, so I 141 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 10: don't have to think. 142 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: And apparently if you post it on LinkedIn, you're only 143 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: supposed to do it once a week. 144 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: LinkedIn is not trying to see a bunch of posts. 145 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 5: I've never had a real job. I don't know what 146 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 5: LinkedIn is. 147 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 9: LinkedIn is such a mystreet to me? 148 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 10: Oh no, I went from Lane Bryant to the TV. 149 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 5: You guys can be batting. 150 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 6: LinkedIn is actually thriving, though i'd actually descriving. It's not 151 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 6: like Facebook, like with where you're like, oh, who's on there, 152 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 6: my aunt? 153 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 5: No, it's like LinkedIn. 154 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: I'm building another business right now and I have single 155 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: handedly put all the pieces together through LinkedIn. 156 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: Where do you see your storytelling going? Someone says to you, 157 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: whatever you want to do, it's greenlit. You have all 158 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: the money in the world. What story would you tell 159 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: and how would you tell it? 160 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 8: Well, mine definitely wouldn't be about myself. 161 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 5: I think that that's one thing I'm like done with 162 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 5: is I feel like that's like out there already. 163 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 8: And I do think that that's one thing that is 164 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,119 Speaker 8: a little bit of a bummer of when you tend 165 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 8: to pop off as a like a an Instagram not Instagram, 166 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 8: a podcast situation or that type of deal is because 167 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 8: they're like, oh, we love you, we want more of you, 168 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 8: and it's kind of like you got me girl, like 169 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 8: i'd be I can't say another thing. You ask me 170 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 8: who I follow, and I'm like, what have I not 171 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 8: already said? You know, I would love to do something 172 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 8: that was very different from me, so and I plan to. 173 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: I really want to tell. 174 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 6: More relationship stories from different perspectives and kind of I 175 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 6: don't know if you guys feel this way, but I 176 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 6: think when one thing really takes off, it makes you 177 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 6: feel like you not in a way to chase something, 178 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 6: but that you want to prove to yourself you could 179 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 6: do it again, you know, on purpose instead it's not 180 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 6: a fluke. And so I have that for sure in 181 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 6: my head. 182 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: But I feel like for us, like through our production company, 183 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: we've always been like what's our flea bag? You know, 184 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: like Aaron's like Phoebe waller Bridge, and we're kind of 185 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: like I think we've spent a lot of our lives 186 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: sort of resisting maybe who we are a lot and 187 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: trying fighting to be taken seriously, and you know, I 188 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: fought to be taken seriously as an actress for so 189 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: long it never really happened. 190 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 5: And it could still. It could still happen. 191 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: But we talk about this all the time, like we're 192 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: living in such hustle culture, right, It's like when is 193 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 3: enough enough? It's like you got to have the podcast, 194 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: you gotta have the brand. Oh you didn't sell any shows. 195 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 5: That's bad, you know. 196 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: It's just like it's like when when can you actually 197 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: sit back and go okay, like I want to I 198 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: want to enjoy the fruits of my labor. 199 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: Like it's all literally what. 200 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 5: I was going to say, I was gonna say. 201 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 6: It just made me think that something that people don't 202 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 6: talk about enough is that work life. 203 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 5: Balance is really important to me. 204 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I only like to work with other people 205 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 6: who respect work life balance. And when you go home 206 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 6: and you're in bed with your partner by yourself watching TV, 207 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 6: I have a baby at home, and it's really shaken 208 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 6: up what I prioritize. And there's this culture of bragging 209 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 6: on how little sleep you got or responding to everything 210 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 6: in real time. And I've gotten more comfortable where if 211 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 6: I get a text at eight thirty at night, I 212 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 6: am not afraid to say guys, I'm watching Real Houswards 213 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 6: of Miami with my husband and that's our me time 214 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 6: and I'll get back to you at eight am tomorrow 215 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 6: and everything will be fine. And I don't want to 216 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 6: feel embarrassed by that. And I think the more you 217 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 6: do it and prioritize your life, the more it gives 218 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 6: other people permission to do that. And I just think 219 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 6: we need to spend time with our friends and family 220 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 6: and by ourselves and not be so obsessed with always 221 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 6: being on, because it's a recipe for a really unhealthy 222 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 6: mental state. 223 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 2: Nicole, what's your project? What's that dream project? 224 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 10: My dream project obviously centered around myself. I love who 225 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 10: I am. I think I'm fun. My best friend is 226 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 10: to shar Zameida and we work together a lot. So 227 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 10: I think a dream would be show or like a 228 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 10: movie that we have written or created and we get to, 229 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 10: you know, be in charge of it. 230 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 5: I like telling love stories. I also love interviewing people 231 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 5: about love. 232 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 9: Jake. 233 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 7: I think my dream would be to like write a 234 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 7: show similar to you about myself and see where that goes. 235 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 7: Meet like a definitely a comedy, dream coast star, dream coastar. 236 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 7: I would love to do like improv alongside like Meg's altar. 237 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 7: I think that would be awesome. 238 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: Time's up, Thank you guys. 239 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: Next up, we'll hear from ziem's Jack Perry and John Stamos. 240 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: Stamos is a multi hyphenate who will, of course forever 241 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: be a pop culture icon for his long run on 242 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: ABC's nineteen ninety sitcom Full House. As such, Stamos was 243 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: the perfect pitch man to star in a cheeky Super 244 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: Bowl ad this year that was taken out by ZEEM 245 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: to tout its broad offering of local TV station streaming signals. 246 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: Stamos was impressed by the company and Perry's track record 247 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: as a broadcast and technology pioneer. Stamos now serves as 248 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: zem's Chief Innovation Officer. ZEEM right now is on a 249 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: big push to offer live streamed original content built around comedians, musicians, 250 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: and other types of performers. Here, Perry and Stamos talk 251 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: about how they became partners, and they talk about all 252 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: the promise that they see in this growing company. 253 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 9: I met Jack and got introduced at ZEEM when they 254 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 9: had me do Super Bowl a couple of years ago. 255 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 9: I did a thing where I was saying we don't 256 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 9: need We don't need gimmicks. Zem works so well by itself. 257 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 9: And I'm sort of walking through and there's fire and 258 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 9: I'm in a pool, and like, I'm not trying to pander, 259 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 9: but I was really pandering. And then after I got 260 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 9: to know Jack on that shoot, I said, let's. 261 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 5: Do something else. 262 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 9: We did like an eight minute sort of a sort 263 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 9: of a Christopher guest style, a little ten minute thing 264 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 9: about the two of us in zee. 265 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 5: A little mockumentary. 266 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: Actually, that's right, Jack, it's at the table for us 267 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: about what zeem is and the two major polls of 268 00:12:59,040 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: your business. 269 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 11: Sure. So I started Zeem in two thousand and nine 270 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 11: after I had sold my prior company, which wrote the 271 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 11: authentication technology that sits between the satellite companies and the 272 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 11: networks and all the local affiliates and really just make 273 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 11: sure you get the right local channels. And so I 274 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 11: thought looked at that and thought, well, streaming is next. 275 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, in two thousand and nine, not many of us 276 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 1: were saying streaming is next. We were just trying to 277 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: figure out how to work YouTube well. 278 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 11: And I learned the value of local there. And that's 279 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 11: where John and I really bonded in the beginning is 280 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 11: everybody is somewhere, they're from somewhere, they're going somewhere. There's 281 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 11: things happening somewhere. So local news just made sense to 282 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 11: lean in on that, and so we wrote the backbone 283 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 11: to start streaming. We literally had no idea what the 284 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 11: business model was going to be. But after about a 285 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 11: year we had four hundred local TV stations on our 286 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 11: backbone and they were just streaming to themselves because there 287 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 11: was no business figured out yet. And so when you're 288 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 11: watching local on Paramount Plus, and we power lots on 289 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,119 Speaker 11: Hulu and Fubo and lots of platforms, it's our backbone 290 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 11: that goes into those local TV stations, pulls the broadcasts 291 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 11: out and make sure you can stream them. 292 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 5: That sounds simple, but it is not. 293 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 8: No, it's not. 294 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 9: And you know, I when they asked me to the commercial, 295 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 9: I was like, what is this, zeam. I don't get it, 296 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 9: you know, And it took me a while to sort 297 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 9: of understand it. Just talking like that. It's sort of 298 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 9: broad right now. We have an app on the phone 299 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 9: and he has we broadcast local news and sports from 300 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 9: all over the country. So if you want to see 301 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 9: what's going on, in you know, your hometown, whatever, you 302 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 9: go there, and then we're doing some you know, original programming. 303 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 9: But we've really been kicking to the live situation. 304 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 11: You know, local is the one constant no matter what 305 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 11: business models rise up, you're always going to need local news, weather, sports. 306 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 11: So on that side, we're just going to make a 307 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 11: brain dead simple to get all your local channels. And 308 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 11: I don't care if it's the CTV companies or the streamers. 309 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 11: You want local come to us, We'll make it inexpensive 310 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 11: and easy from there, that's where we're starting to build 311 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 11: on the local original content side of things. We're pushing 312 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 11: the envelope. We've done things as crazy as a ice 313 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 11: fishing shanty in the middle of a national forest in 314 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 11: the Upper Peninsula Michigan and live streaming. You know, two 315 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 11: people sitting in a shanty ice fishing and we had 316 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 11: people tuning in watching it. 317 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: You think nothing's on folks ice fishing right there? Is 318 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: that something you kind of did to see if you 319 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: could do it? 320 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: In part? 321 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 11: Yes, But we also you know, as John and I 322 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 11: started more about the content opportunity, it was clear to 323 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 11: us live is the next great frontier and the more 324 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,479 Speaker 11: we can do live the better, and so we've got destination. 325 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 11: John is leading on Destination Music. 326 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 9: We have a studio in New York as well, on 327 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 9: close to Times Square that we go in there on 328 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 9: tour with the Beach Boys couple months ago, and I 329 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 9: grabbed a few of the guys. I said, that's going 330 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 9: to the studio. We flipped the switch and then we 331 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 9: went on for an hour and just played acoustically, and 332 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 9: you know, it was really a special thing. So there's 333 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 9: so much going on with ZEEM. 334 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 5: It is complicated. 335 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 9: It's hard to wrap your head around. But I think 336 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 9: there's so much opportunity there, especially as a creator and 337 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 9: have a lot of creative friends over signing deals with people. 338 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 9: There's a young comic that who I love, and we're 339 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 9: going to do a live talk show with him and 340 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 9: a late night talk show. We're doing Destination comedy. He's 341 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 9: got a van to a three sixty van that goes live. 342 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 9: We're doing music, and we're doing comedy and fishing in 343 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 9: a hole somewhere. 344 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: Can you sketch out those specifically, what you did with 345 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: the Destination Comedy event, Explain why you did it and 346 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: what you hoped it would represent for your capabilities. 347 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 11: So I wanted to push the envelope on the technology. 348 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 11: I wanted to get creative folks involved that had a 349 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 11: network of their own that could then tell their friends 350 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 11: to tune in and their contacts tune in. And I 351 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 11: wanted to try to live stream for five straight days 352 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 11: twenty four to seven. And I said, when you go 353 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 11: to bed at night, park the van so it can 354 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 11: see a logo of any kind. I don't care what 355 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 11: it is. It could be a Marriott. 356 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 9: Logo, it'd be Adidas for YouTube. 357 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 11: The next time we'll have it pointed out Adidas shoes. 358 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 11: Because if you look at well, you know we have 359 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 11: an ad technology that you know, since John came out 360 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 11: of the Flaming Pool and our Super Bowl commercial, we've 361 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 11: done maybe seven billion ads that we've inserted into streams. 362 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 11: We know that the advertising community is saying, hey, there's 363 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 11: got to be something more, not just dynamic ad insertion, 364 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 11: but what are the live branding opportunities we can participate in. 365 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 11: So yes, when we unleashed the technology on a couple 366 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 11: of comedians, we've said, go out there and do everything 367 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 11: that you possibly can do so we can then go 368 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 11: on the next generation of this programming and bring in 369 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 11: advertisers ahead of time that are not necessarily looking for 370 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 11: dynamic ad insertion, but to be a part of the 371 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 11: Destination comedy family. 372 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: Is there a world John where a touring comedian could 373 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: monetize a. 374 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 9: Tour that, yes, that's a good question. What I always 375 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 9: chipped these guys with and girls is that he invented 376 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 9: the technology called ads Sync that places ads throughout the 377 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 9: day and all these local markets, so if a comic 378 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 9: or a musician is going to be playing. We did 379 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 9: it with the Beach Boys just to test out with 380 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 9: a QR code, and we sold a lot of tickets 381 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 9: at Jones Beach I think it was. But he went 382 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 9: and got ten seconds here, fifteen seconds here that were 383 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 9: not being used so for free. So that's what we 384 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 9: would do with the comics of the touring musicians as well. 385 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 9: That makes sense. 386 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 11: So one of the things we did with Jeff Ross 387 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 11: was we created one thirty second spot because he's done 388 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 11: the take a Banana for the Ride tour on Broadway 389 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 11: and so we took it. We said, just shoot a 390 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 11: fun ad, send it to us. And I'm sure everyone 391 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 11: here is familiar with the dreaded slate We'll be back 392 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 11: in a moment, you know, enjoy this moment or whatever. 393 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 11: That's because the ad wasn't sold, and so what we 394 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 11: did in the case there was our ad Sync technology 395 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 11: would then condense the ads. So because at the end 396 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 11: when you see that slate, it's because there isn't an 397 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 11: ad that fits. 398 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 5: That feels like failure, honestly. 399 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 11: Right, So we wrote something that very quickly said all right, 400 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 11: grab the Jeff Ross ad. Take it from a thirty 401 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 11: to or fifteen or fifteen down to six seconds, and 402 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 11: then we placed it in there as well, and that 403 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 11: actually proved very effective at increasing the fill rates for 404 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 11: those ads, and you wouldn't see the slates. 405 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: With your more original efforts. Are you actively trying to 406 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: promote the Zeen brand or are you looking at like 407 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: social as the kind of the vehicle to get your 408 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: content out. 409 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 11: I mean, that's a nice inflection point that we're at today, 410 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 11: is you kind of get the social piece for free. 411 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: Right, What do you think that a service like this 412 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: can do in terms of just putting a spotlight on 413 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: talent that may be very far away from New York 414 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: or LA or Chicago comedy clubs or or any kind 415 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: of performers. Do you feel like this could be a 416 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: vehicle for discovery of talent? 417 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 9: Yeah? Absolutely, I've been finding so many talented people on Instagram. 418 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 9: In fact, we replaced one of the drummers in The 419 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 9: Beach Boys a couple of years ago. I found the 420 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 9: guy on Instagram. And you know, I have no problem 421 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 9: at dming someone saying I'm a fan. I really like 422 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 9: what you're doing, and I have. 423 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 5: To believe people are like, this is not Jon. Times 424 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 5: they alway. 425 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: Takes a minute to convince them, no, I really am 426 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: John's Damen. Yeah. 427 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 9: That was with the Beach Boy guy. I DM him 428 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 9: and said, hey, what are you doing this summer? You know? 429 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 9: And he says, is this really you? And I filled 430 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 9: my face time I said, we're looking for a drummer 431 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 9: for the Beach Boys. Oh, you know, we're crazy. So 432 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 9: I find more probably online than I do out in 433 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 9: the world. But the talent is so incredible, and to 434 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 9: reach out to someone and go, hey, you want to 435 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 9: come over here and play in our sandbox and see 436 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 9: what you got going over here. I've had so many 437 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 9: mentors in my life, to start with the Jack Klugman 438 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 9: and Gary Marshall and Don Rickles, and so I find 439 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 9: myself being put in that position and sort of a 440 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 9: pay it forward position really, and I'm just loving it. 441 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 9: And now I have an avenue to go come over 442 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 9: here and do this with us and come up with idea. 443 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: And it seems like all your skills and your connections 444 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: are coming into play in terms of being creative. 445 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 9: Well one hundred percent. Yeah, we've met with a lot 446 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 9: of the creative friends and also people in the business. 447 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 9: Went over to Netflix and talk to them about what 448 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 9: we're doing live and if we could be part of 449 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 9: what they're doing. And we've met with a lot of 450 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 9: agents and a lot of management companies, and everybody's very interesting. 451 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 9: It's just they got it to figure out how can 452 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 9: I fit into this world? And the more we get 453 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 9: out there and pitch it, the more people are coming 454 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 9: around going what about this? 455 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 2: What about that? 456 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: Well, the architecture of monetization, I'm sure helps helps with 457 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: those conversations. 458 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 5: Let's close by a little crystal. 459 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: Ball gazing, all right, John, chief Innovation Officer, pressures on 460 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: what's exciting you? What in the future is like, what 461 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: in the near future are you excited to get your 462 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: arms around and start playing with. 463 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 9: One of the first things I said to him was like, 464 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 9: I would love to see ZEEM as your home channel 465 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 9: you turn on the TV instead of LG or whatever. 466 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 9: You know, Apple, it will be it will be Zee 467 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 9: and it would it would. I want something that would 468 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 9: curate what I watch, what my wife watches, what I 469 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 9: watch with our kids, and not have to pit there 470 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 9: for twenty minutes on every platform and try to figure 471 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 9: out how you do it and like a half hours 472 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 9: gone by, and the hell, I'll just go to. 473 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 5: Sleep, wind up watching Full House three runs. I do 474 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 5: that a lot. 475 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 9: But it would would just to have a link and 476 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 9: it would just go hit the show, go to Netflix, 477 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 9: go to Apple. And I don't think anybody's doing that. 478 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 9: So that's my dream is to see it be your 479 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 9: home screen and your place where you start in the 480 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 9: morning and a place where you end it night. 481 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: There is still an enormous opportunity in navigation. 482 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 5: I will will watch ZEM to see how how you 483 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 5: guys tackle That sounds good. 484 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. 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