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Speaker 1: I am deeply wow. I'm Debbie Brown and this is

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode. Welcome back to the show. Of course,

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Speaker 2: I'm Debbie Brown. Shout out to everybody watching on YouTube

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Speaker 2: and listening in their cars and your phones however you

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Speaker 2: It has been a crazy last few weeks. This episode,

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Speaker 2: Something I thought that was really interesting when I first started,

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Speaker 2: probably well over ten years ago, understanding that my path

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Speaker 2: was kind of the wounded healer path and beginning to

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Speaker 2: slowly dismantle the chronic pain that enveloped my life and

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Speaker 2: understand my body's reactions to my experiences. I was exploring

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Speaker 2: my chronic pain from the lens of spirituality, spiritual curriculum, therapy,

442
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: cognitive therapy, somatic therapy, and also a lot of different viewpoints.

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Speaker 2: I started to find it kind of fascinating, as I

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Speaker 2: tend to do, and I started studying my astrology chart.

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Speaker 2: And for those of you that know, I think astrology

446
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Speaker 2: is a really beautiful tool and companion for being a love.

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Speaker 2: It can be a really special sacred science. But in astrology,

448
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Speaker 2: and especially in some of the older astrology like Vedic

449
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Speaker 2: astrology or what is referred to as Yodish astrology, which

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Speaker 2: is very very very very old, and a lot of

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Speaker 2: people that practiced astrology were also medical doctors for their

452
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Speaker 2: time or on a past episode, I had doctor Suhas

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Speaker 2: who is a master astrologer and an emty medical doctor,

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Speaker 2: and he utilizes both in his practices to understand people.

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Speaker 2: Something I found in my astrology chart was that certain

456
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Speaker 2: placements I have lent themselves to saying that some of

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Speaker 2: the experiences I would have in this life would be

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Speaker 2: centered around bone pain and specifically pain in the spine,

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Speaker 2: and that some of my work was to understand some

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Speaker 2: of the things that had happened to me or that

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00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: I had witnessed, so that I could be in co

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Speaker 2: creation with releasing that pain from my body. So that's

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Speaker 2: part of what this work is too, and it's not overnight.

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Speaker 2: It's an ongoing process, and I talk about a lot

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Speaker 2: of that in my book, and I'm really excited to

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Speaker 2: share that. But it's also been fascinating kind of noticing

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Speaker 2: as I'm a week and a half out from launching

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Speaker 2: this how it feels to talk about.

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Speaker 1: It with people.

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Speaker 2: So so far, I've recorded i want to say, three

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Speaker 2: or four podcasts in the last two days where I've

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Speaker 2: had a chance to talk about my book and share

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Speaker 2: about my book, and it's been deep, you know, because

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Speaker 2: I am not self focused on this show and always

475
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Speaker 2: speaking from I guess what I might be saying with

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Speaker 2: some judgment is like a trauma dumping perspective. I'm not

477
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Speaker 2: saying I went through this, and this is how I

478
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Speaker 2: did it, and this is how you do it do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm more I'm interested in providing pathways for everyone listening

480
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Speaker 2: to see what resonates with your spirit uniquely, and then

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Speaker 2: how do you begin to approach that work and then

482
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Speaker 2: deepen in that work based on your own intuition. It's

483
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: been really interesting talking about myself so much and kind

484
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Speaker 2: of opening to that space to talk from my first

485
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Speaker 2: person perspective and not more from what I believe is

486
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Speaker 2: a wisdom perspective, which is more so through storytelling and

487
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: through analogy and through kind of archetypes and wider concepts

488
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: of understanding. I found that to be more powerful for

489
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Speaker 2: me in my learning as a student, to learn in

490
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: that way than from learning from someone's first hand experience,

491
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: because we're all so different, layered and nuanced, and so

492
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: that is how I prefer to teach, that is how

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Speaker 2: God has called me to teach. But now just kind

494
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Speaker 2: of speaking so much about myself from a first person standpoint,

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Speaker 2: it's interesting. Yeah, I do it happily, and it's been

496
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Speaker 2: really fun kind of exploring these stories, but it's also

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Speaker 2: not how I teach. So it's just been interesting to

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Speaker 2: experience and to look at it from that standpoint. So

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Speaker 2: y'all will be getting the book sewn. I'm very excited

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00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: about that, and very excited for you to kind of

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00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: utilize this book and open with it through my own experiences,

502
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 2: but definitely through some of my observations of clients and

503
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: people that I have been with and teachers that I've

504
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: learned from, and then also just real technical practice. This

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00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: book is filled with practices of higher consciousness. Inquiries, questions

506
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: to ask your inner child, questions to ask who you

507
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: are now, questions to ask your soul about your purpose.

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00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: There are so many prompts in this book. One of

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Speaker 2: the certification programs that I did for over three years

510
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Speaker 2: was this master's program in spiritual psychology, and it was

511
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Speaker 2: three years and every time we met for class, it

512
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: would be for three days in a row for twelve

513
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Speaker 2: hours each day, and it was gnarly. You had to

514
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: do so much self processing, so much self processing around

515
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: things that you don't even want to say out loud,

516
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: let alone in front of a classroom or in front

517
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Speaker 2: of a partner. But it was the path to freedom

518
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: for me to deep into understanding in addition to so

519
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: many other things I had done and been doing. But

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00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: a lot of what I gleaned in that program I

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Speaker 2: share in this book as well, especially the practices and

522
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: processes to meet those younger, tender, beautiful versions of who

523
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: we are and maybe who there wasn't space to become

524
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: because of life experiences. But how do you integrate and

525
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: reconnect and come into acceptance with all the layers of

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Speaker 2: who you are and who have you been? So there's

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Speaker 2: practices for that, and then there's also practice to really

528
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Speaker 2: deepen into advance meditation, which opens your higher awareness, which

529
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Speaker 2: hopefully helps to cultivate your intuition and really bring online

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Speaker 2: perhaps some of your deeper gifts and some of your

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Speaker 2: intuitive gifts, some of your ability to be in direct

532
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Speaker 2: communication with Source and with the divine, and ways in

533
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: which to hopefully activate and turn on some of your

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Speaker 2: energy centers so that you can experience your body and

535
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: your life differently. One of the practices I lean into

536
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: the book that I love so much is leaning into maudras,

537
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: which are really a way to advance in your meditation practice,

538
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Speaker 2: but a way to really open to some of the

539
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: downloads that may want to come into you and your

540
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: life miraculously and instantaneously. That's one of the beautiful things

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Speaker 2: I think about building a meditation practice. You know, at first,

542
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Speaker 2: you think, as you're starting to study meditation that it's

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Speaker 2: just about peace, or it's just about getting quiet or

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Speaker 2: getting still. But the more you practice meditation, the more

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00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: you're able to access all the different layers and realms

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Speaker 2: of higher awareness. So when you first start your practice,

547
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: the baseline may be just learning how to get still

548
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Speaker 2: and how to get quiet. Once you've done that and

549
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: not be irritated by it or not to seek stimulation

550
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: because of it, the next layer would be when some

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00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: of those pain points start coming up, and you might

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Speaker 2: find yourself in meditation crying or getting angry or even

553
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: getting like, you know, like laughing, getting really happy. But

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00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: you're able to tap into maybe all the emotions that

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00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: you've been suppressing for a lifetime and so as you

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Speaker 2: sit with that and learn to release that and witness

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00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: it and be present with it and observe it and

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00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: release it, then you're able to go a little higher

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00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: into what your meditation practice is and what it feels like.

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00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: And then you're kind of getting a ground and you're

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Speaker 2: opening to meditation as a tool for higher consciousness, as

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Speaker 2: a tool for purpose, as a tool for really fuel

563
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Speaker 2: and pleasure and rebuilding and recircuiting your brain, and you know,

564
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Speaker 2: kind of leaning into growing the neuroplasticity which is within

565
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Speaker 2: your brain and kind of recarving out some neural pathways

566
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Speaker 2: and healing older calcified ones so that you can be

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00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: who you really are and so that some of the

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Speaker 2: pain in your life can leave. And I think that

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Speaker 2: for me and doing the work has been the greatest blessing.

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Speaker 2: I've been able to open my compassion and my understanding

571
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Speaker 2: and really open to a profound ability to empathize with

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Speaker 2: anyone in.

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Speaker 1: Front of me deeply. Well, some of.

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Speaker 2: This ecology programs that I did when I was getting certification,

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Speaker 2: sometimes you'd have to bear witness to really hard confessions

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Speaker 2: from other people, things that may make you want to

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00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: judge them, things they've done to other people things they've

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00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: done to themselves. But meditation and compassion and empathy allow

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Speaker 2: you to kind of open to see the deeper struggle

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00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: that is within and behind people that do cause pain

581
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Speaker 2: to other people, and to really see how we're all

582
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Speaker 2: kind of some of our experiences and we choose to paths,

583
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: and some people who were harmed you know there really

584
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: is no other choice but to choose a path to

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00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: harm until you know otherwise. And others who were harmed

586
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: choose a path first, often of pleasing and even self

587
00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: righteousness or self denial and over empathy without boundary. And

588
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: then as you become empowered, you turn that empathy and

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00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 2: that compassion outward and inward, and you know you're able

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00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 2: to really recognize that your role is to serve. It's

591
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: not to please, it's not to fix anyone else's problems.

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00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: It's not to become whoever other people think you should be,

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Speaker 2: or behave how they think you should behave, or do

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00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: things how they think you should do them. But it

595
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: is to anchor down into the truth of who God

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00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 2: told you to be, the truth of who you are,

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Speaker 2: the truth of the work that you've done, and then

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00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: hold space for others and both there sometimes perceivedly good

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00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: and bad behavior. You know, I think strength comes in

600
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: so many forms, and for some of us, strength there's

601
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Speaker 2: really like you know, holding people up. For other strength

602
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 2: is and witnessing brothers. Their strength is kind of holding

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00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: a quiet power, a mysterio power about who and what

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00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: they are. But we're all here to focus on our

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00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: spiritual curriculum and then to use it as a way

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Speaker 2: to serve others. And that's really that's really what it is.

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Speaker 2: It really is.

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Speaker 1: That simple.

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Speaker 2: When you do your work, you then serve, and your

610
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: work is never done. We're always continue to refine it.

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00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: There's always deeper to go in your own path of

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00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: healing and your own path of self mastery. We will

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00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: be doing the work till the day that we're gone.

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Speaker 2: But hopefully, you know, you get to a place, and

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00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: that's my intention with this book where you're able to

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00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: get a lot of the gunk out of the way

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00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: and then some of the work of your life is

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Speaker 2: really just about continuing to refine and continuing to ask

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Speaker 2: God how you're meant to be used and how you're

620
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Speaker 2: going to show up in that work for others. But

621
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Speaker 2: we're all meant to do that differently once you get

622
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Speaker 2: to a healing. For some people, it is being powerful

623
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Speaker 2: motivators and maybe really inspiring people through their own life

624
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: stories and you know, kind of bringing a deep level

625
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: of motivation to others. For some it's like, you know,

626
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Speaker 2: kind of disappearing and maybe you live a monk life

627
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Speaker 2: and you know, do something that is off the radar

628
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: of even being seen, but you're holding this powerful healing

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Speaker 2: space and enlightened space for others that don't even know

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Speaker 2: you exist. For some people, it's it's really holding up

631
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Speaker 2: some of the deeper themes in the work that others

632
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 2: are doing, or you know, speaking to things and kind

633
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Speaker 2: of bigger way that creates space for more people to

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Speaker 2: hear it. But you'll know what your work is as

635
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: long as you stay devoted to your practices and devoted

636
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Speaker 2: to the divine and devoted to your personal spiritual curriculum,

637
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: which a lot of people can have projections on and

638
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: ideas of, but only you and God really know what

639
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: that is. So find strength in that. Find solace in

640
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: that you know your healing journey does not have to

641
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: make sense to anyone else. You don't have to quantify it.

642
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: For anyone else. You don't have to trauma dump it

643
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 2: for anyone else so that you are believed or seen

644
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: as accurate. You know, you just have to do the

645
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: work you're called to with integrity, with diligence, with devotion,

646
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: and then find ways to serve others, Find ways to

647
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: love others and to embody love for others. Find ways

648
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: to embody your learning and your work and your wisdom

649
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 2: so that you can actually live who you say you are,

650
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: a lot of people can get up and say who

651
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 2: they are in front of people. A lot of people

652
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: can get up and proclaim what they are on the internet,

653
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: But the truth of your life always tells the story.

654
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: Are you in conflict with who you are? Are you

655
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: in conflict with other people? Are you looking at others

656
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: through a lens of lack or judgment? Are you feeling

657
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: peace and wholeness and worthiness at the core of who

658
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: you are? Or are you just telling people that's how

659
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: you feel. There's no judgment in it, But there's always

660
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: work to be done, you know. And I think when

661
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: it comes to even the discernment of who you should

662
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 2: listen to on your path, who you should believe, whose

663
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: work you should be connecting to really take a long,

664
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: hard look at the person and what is the truth

665
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: of their life. You know, I don't always bring all

666
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: my personal stuff to the table here because I also think, well,

667
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: why should I I'm working? Is that necessary and actually

668
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: useful for people? Or is the work I'm providing the

669
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: most useful and nourishing thing for others? You know, I

670
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: don't want to live a SIMS reality. I think the

671
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: Internet is the only place where people think they have

672
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: to engage twenty four seven. Nothing else about life is

673
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: that way.

674
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: You know.

675
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: I personally love the privacy of my life. I love

676
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: the specialness of my life at this moment in my life.

677
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: Though the world is always changing, and I accept that

678
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: about being alive, that it's not always going to be easy,

679
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: It's not always going to be graceful. It's not for

680
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: no one. And I have met with some of the

681
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 2: most enlightened minds on the planet in the last ten years.

682
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: I have had access to some of the absolute great

683
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 2: spiritual leaders of our time in the last few years,

684
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 2: and not just hearing them speak, having years and years

685
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: to build relationships with them, having long, deep conversations with

686
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: them over time, and I've come to know that not

687
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: a single person is perfect, and we are all always

688
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: strengthening and refining in our paths on this journey of

689
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: healing and then on this journey of teaching and serving,

690
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: and so you know, to just deeply understand and accept

691
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: that that is the case. You know, we are always

692
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: here really for all of it. Yeah, but I've really

693
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: learned that, you know, nothing shows the truth of how

694
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: much work someone has done or not on themselves, like

695
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: the actual quality of their day to day life. And

696
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: I think that's where I came into a deep understanding

697
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: about how grateful I am for where I've at least

698
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: momentarily arrived on my path. And I feel really proud

699
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: to say this because this was not my God, my god,

700
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 2: my god, this was not always the case in my life.

701
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: But I live a really beautiful life right now. I

702
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 2: live a really beautiful life, a life that to such

703
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: a large extent is conflict free, a life that has beautiful,

704
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: healthy boundaries everywhere where. The deep close community on my

705
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 2: life that you will likely never see shared on Instagram

706
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: are people I have deep respect, love, admiration for, and

707
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: harmony with, and people who have deep love, respect, admiration

708
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: harmony and support of me, and we do special things

709
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: to we get together. We do ordinary things together, like

710
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: spend time and fill each other with love and support

711
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: and friendship. I spend a lot of time in my garden.

712
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: I spend a lot of time focused on being a

713
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: good mother to my son. My motherhood means a lot

714
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: to me. And that's why I don't really share it

715
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: on social media. Why I don't really share photos of

716
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: myself and my son and all the fun things that

717
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: we do together, the good moments, the hard moments, because

718
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: that's our business, you know. And I think as as

719
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: I pull out a camera or try to come to

720
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: a quick understanding of who he is or who I

721
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: am in a moment, I rob both of us of

722
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 2: the magic of the relationship that.

723
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: We have right now.

724
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to be so focused on

725
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: documenting him at six years old and what I know

726
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: about being a mom of a six year old right now,

727
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: because I'm living it and I want to feel all

728
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: of it, and I don't want to distort it by

729
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: making it consumable. As soon as you make certain private

730
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: parts of your life consumable to strangers or to other people,

731
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: it changes the authenticity of it. It changes how it

732
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: feels inside of your body, It changes how you interact

733
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: with it. You know, as soon as you start taking

734
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 2: a picture based on how it will perform, it changes

735
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: the relationship of what you're taking a picture of, right Like,

736
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: think about if you see your kid making a funny,

737
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 2: silly face and you just want to capture it. But

738
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: then if you're so used to capturing the perfect picture

739
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: of them, you're going to do it another five to

740
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: ten times to make it perfect so that it can

741
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: then be shared, and then you lose the truth and

742
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: the beauty of that original, maybe perceivedly, you know, ordinary

743
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: or nonesthetic image, and the moment that was being created

744
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: in that image. And then you're doing it for performance.

745
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: You're doing it for perception. And I think our kids

746
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: feel that, right Like, if I take a picture of

747
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: my son and then I ask him to take it

748
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: five more times and then I'm finally happy with it,

749
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 2: and I'm giving him that feedback, and then I'm staring

750
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 2: at my phone and sharing at it. Whether I think

751
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: so or not, and whether he has a language for

752
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 2: it or not. He's learning how to perform, He's learning

753
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: that a very specific smile is what I'm after that

754
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: a very specific response or way of positioning his body

755
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: is what will please me, and that's what I want

756
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: to void in my relationship with my son. I want

757
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: him to be himself. So I guess I'm sharing some

758
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: of this nuance and I hope it's relevant for people

759
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 2: because I think it's something we should all be kind

760
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: of considering and exploring as we renegotiate our agreements with

761
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: social media moving forward. I'll be forty this year, which

762
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about, so just in general, I think,

763
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: not just because the work that I've done, but just

764
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: because generationally, this is the time I'm coming into, you know,

765
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 2: you start to really renegotiate and look at a lot

766
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: of the agreements you have. So it's been kind of

767
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: cool in the last couple of weeks. Again, I'm three

768
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: weeks removed from having this rotator cuff surgery, and I'm

769
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: a week and a half out from dropping my book.

770
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of noticing this moment in my path

771
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 2: and in my time of healing and of coming into

772
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 2: a new biological age of who I am and how

773
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 2: I present and how I live. It's kind of interesting

774
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: experiencing you know, an aging body with an injury and

775
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: experiencing talking about some of those deeper, darker chapters of

776
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 2: my life that I'm many years removed from. You know, nothing,

777
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: no experience I share in this book is younger than

778
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: five to six years old, and a lot of them

779
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: are ten and twenty years old. So I've had a

780
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: lot of time to reflect and glean the wisdom of

781
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 2: the things that I share with you in this book

782
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: and the space to having been able been allowed to

783
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: come into a multitude of perspectives of what these experiences

784
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: crafted within me and in my life and in other people.

785
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: And so yeah, it's really interesting to share this at

786
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 2: this moment of life, almost turning forty and birthing this

787
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: kind of baby that feels really intimate for me and

788
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: really vulnerable for me. Again, I'm yeah, I like to

789
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: work and I like to be in my life, and

790
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: I kind of, you know, hold both sacredly but separately

791
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: in a lot of regards, and they're coming together here,

792
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: and so I'm making peace with that and making peace

793
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: with you know, the fact that strangers get to know

794
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 2: things about me that they didn't come to know from

795
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: actually knowing me as a person. It's it's a really

796
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: interesting feeling in space. And I've talked to a few

797
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 2: other author friends who have had their own revealing books

798
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: and memoirs, and you know, they've all assured me that, like, yeah,

799
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: this is a part of the process. Waking up at

800
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: three am, like oh God, am I sure about this?

801
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: You know that that's a part of the process, and

802
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 2: questioning everything and having a little bit of you know,

803
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: discomfort at the new vulnerability that you're kind of being

804
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 2: called to share. And I know that doesn't always seem

805
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: like it because we are in a culture and a

806
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: time of oversharing where you know, people are people are

807
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: going live, they're getting like a Brazilian wax, people are

808
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: going live with their families in the midst of conflict,

809
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 2: or you know, just telling really private things to people,

810
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: Like I know that has become the norm, but that's

811
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: actually not the norm, and it's not necessarily safe for

812
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: you or your wellbeing to operate in that way unless

813
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: you're sure that you're called that that's how God is

814
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: asking you to be used. But yeah, it's been interesting

815
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: exploring the context and the nuance of all of that.

816
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: So that is what I have been thinking about and

817
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 2: moving through this week, and since you know, the last

818
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: layer of the conversation that I've had with you, and

819
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 2: I've also had some really special experiences, so quickly before

820
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: we head out of this episode, I want to share

821
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 2: a very dear friend of mine, Maria Shriver, has an

822
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: incredible book out called I Am Maria. It is profound,

823
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: it is beautiful.

824
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: It is a book of.

825
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: Her vast and unique and really astounding and inspiring life

826
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: experiences and life tragedies that she's moved through and some

827
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 2: incredible poetry that has really inspired me to write more

828
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: and to share more and to kind of be in

829
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: the romance of myself more. And so that book is

830
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: available everywhere now. And I had the opportunity to join

831
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: her in New York, which also was crazy because I

832
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: traveled two weeks after having had surgery by myself and

833
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: like got on stage and shared and you know, I

834
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 2: had a wild like thirty hours in New York while

835
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: I was healing from surgery. But it all went beautifully

836
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: and it all went well. I had the chance to

837
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 2: open her book tour with her at the Immanuel Center

838
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 2: in New York, which is this stunning synagogue with just

839
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: the most gorgeous dan glass windows everywhere, and there was

840
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: candles everywhere, and Maria and Hoda had a beautiful conversation,

841
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 2: and another dear friend and mentor of mine, Elizabeth Lesser,

842
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 2: shared an incredible poem the founder of the Omega Institute,

843
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: and I got to share an opening meditation and intention

844
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: setting with the audience and it's really special and really beautiful.

845
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: So that was something that really moved me in my

846
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: life in the last couple of weeks. And I'll be

847
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 2: doing it with her again here in La and Santa

848
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: Monica for her leg of the book tour this week,

849
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 2: and I just can't wait. I love her so much.

850
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: I have so much reverence and respect for who and

851
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 2: what she is and what she represents and just all

852
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 2: that she has accomplished as a woman, as a soul

853
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 2: in this life. And then I also had the beautiful

854
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 2: opportunity to be with the incredible group of women from

855
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: Leading Women to Find, which is an incredible yearly kind

856
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: of pilgrimage that happens with some of the most beautiful

857
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: and powerful and intentional Black women all over the world

858
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: that are just you know, doing some incredibly ceiling shattering,

859
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: bar lifting things for many years, and the visionary work

860
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: is the brainchild of the incredible Misstep or Lee, and

861
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: so I've had the chance to be with them a

862
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 2: few years in a row. And this year I led

863
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 2: a workshop on grief and a workshop on processing emotion

864
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: and working with pain in the body, and it was

865
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: just really special. I led some meditations there and I

866
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: just got a shout out all of just the magnificent,

867
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: magnificent women that were in attendance, and it did so

868
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: much for my heart to be there. Yeah, made some

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Speaker 2: really special connections, so much love to everybody that was there.

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Speaker 2: And then I also did something, Oh my god, And

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Speaker 2: I think I'll end with this. For those that have

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Speaker 2: listened to this show or have done anything, have been

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Speaker 2: on a retreat with me, you know that for many

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Speaker 2: years I am a huge fan admirer of the astounding,

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Speaker 2: phenomenal Cleo Soul. Wow, what a woman, what a work,

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Speaker 2: what a gift, what a voice she is. I really

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Speaker 2: relate with her because at least my perception of her,

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Speaker 2: not knowing her, is that she is kind of a

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Speaker 2: natural recluse like myself in the best way, and someone

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Speaker 2: that is just kind of really surrendered to the beauty

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Speaker 2: of their in real life life and doing the work

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Speaker 2: that they're called to do, but then likes to kind

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Speaker 2: of just back up a little bit and rest and

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Speaker 2: be with their world. And so I really identify with that,

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Speaker 2: and I love that about her. You know, she drops

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Speaker 2: projects that can change your life and just are so beautiful,

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Speaker 2: and then she disappears and goes back into her creativity,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's really special. So she embarked on

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Speaker 2: and had I think four sold out shows back to back,

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Speaker 2: and then she sold out the Hollywood Bowl here in

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Speaker 2: LA which I think holds more than twenty thousand people.

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Speaker 2: And I went with a group of my girlfriends. I

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Speaker 2: my dear friend Lauren Lauren London, and we all just

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Speaker 2: had a girl's night at the Bowl and sang and

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Speaker 2: swayed and just felt like the beauty of this special,

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Speaker 2: special work. One of my girlfriends, Brittany Pacnett Cunningham, she

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Speaker 2: she was, because people have been like losing their mind

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Speaker 2: since these concerts about her work were being introduced to it,

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Speaker 2: she called her a holy Shadah. I thought that was

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Speaker 2: so funny. I was like, yeah, no, that's that, that's it,

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Speaker 2: that's it. You know, she does a healing work, a

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Speaker 2: healing service to the world, and her voice was even

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Speaker 2: better in person. It's just it's something that's going to

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Speaker 2: be ingrained in my heart for a really long time.

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Speaker 2: And it was so special when I'm so grateful that

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Speaker 2: I got to go and I got to go there

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Speaker 2: with three women that I love so much and just

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Speaker 2: be in friendship and community with, and yeah, it was amazing.

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Speaker 2: So I'm I would say, I'm pretty sure most of

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Speaker 2: y'all all listen to Cleosul like I do.

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Speaker 1: But if you don't, do.

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Speaker 2: Yourself a favor and maybe lock into a playlist and

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Speaker 2: see how it makes you feel and how you connect

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Speaker 2: to it. All right, y'all. I will be announcing my

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Speaker 2: book tour very soon this week, hopefully on Instagram and

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Speaker 2: also on my website and on my newsletter Debbi Brown

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Speaker 2: dot com, Forward slash book at Debbie Brown on ig

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Speaker 2: sign up for my newsletter on my website. The first

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Speaker 2: three stops I'm making Atlanta, LA and Huston, h Town.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited. In La, I'll be in conversation with

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Speaker 2: Layla Delia, and Atlanta I will be in conversation with

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Speaker 2: Carrie Champion. And in Houston, I will be in conversation

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Speaker 2: with Bunbe And I cannot wait. And also a little

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Speaker 2: bit later in the summer, after I'm healed up a

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Speaker 2: little bit more, I will be hitting New York.

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Speaker 1: I'll be hitting d C.

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Speaker 2: Philly, Detroit, and Chicago. So I can't wait to be

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Speaker 2: in all these cities and to be with you. If

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Speaker 2: you haven't yet, please take a moment and pre ordered

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Speaker 2: the book. I know, like whenever I used to hear

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Speaker 2: about pre orders, I'd be like, yeah, I'm gona buy

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Speaker 2: the book when it's out. I don't need to pre

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Speaker 2: order it. But you know this, this matters to the

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Speaker 2: publisher as it matters to the people. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I just hope you get it whenever you feel called.

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Speaker 2: But if you would pre order it, tell a friend

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Speaker 2: and I'll be announcing those tour dates in just a

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Speaker 2: few days. And I cannot wait to see you and

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Speaker 2: to be with you. And yeah, my heart is really

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Speaker 2: open and really grateful in this season and just very

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Speaker 2: ready to be in and do whatever God has.

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Speaker 1: Called me to.

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Speaker 2: So thank you for listening. Back next week, and if

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