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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to Creature feature, a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host of Many Parasites Katie Golden. I studied

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Speaker 1: psychology and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, hail Flatan.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we're not actually hailing Satan, but we

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Speaker 1: are admiring some particularly satanic looking animals who may appear

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Speaker 1: rather devilish but are mostly misunderstood. Join us as we

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Speaker 1: explore these creatures of Zennite and day, like zidracula parrot,

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Speaker 1: a very gothic gastropod, bleeding plants, exploiting trees, and a

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Speaker 1: beetle with a reputation of biblical proportions. Discover this more

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Speaker 1: as we answer the angel question can humans and birds unite?

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Speaker 1: Over our love of fashion, often our love of animals

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Speaker 1: is a beauty contest. We are concerned about the fates

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Speaker 1: of pandas Koala's tigers and eagles, which is a wonderful

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Speaker 1: thing is these are wonderful animals, but sometimes it's harder

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Speaker 1: to appreciate the more scary, dastardly looking animals. However, you

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Speaker 1: can't judge an animal by its cover, and you can't

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Speaker 1: judge a bird by how much it looks like an

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Speaker 1: evil which is familiar. Joining me today to panic about

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Speaker 1: satan is fellow podcaster and horror ficionado Megan Selena's say, everybody,

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Speaker 1: how are you? Thank you so much for joining me, Megan,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. I'm excited. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited too. I wanted to do this episode for

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Speaker 1: a while. I have been collecting examples of animals and

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Speaker 1: also plants, exemplary examples of goth style. I know that

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Speaker 1: like goth style, there are many different styles of like goth.

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Speaker 1: I know that goth isn't the same as like Satanists.

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Speaker 1: And also, you know, death metal is its own whole thing,

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Speaker 1: so there's a bunch of print styles. But I think

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Speaker 1: there's a case to be made for all of these creatures.

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Speaker 1: They really fit into that general vibe of of goth

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Speaker 1: or death metal or you know, Satanism but the fun

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Speaker 1: but the fun friendly kind, you know what I mean? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: these are these are hardcore but like also kind of adorable,

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Speaker 1: right exactly, which I think a lot of quote unquote

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Speaker 1: Satanists are. I know that a lot of people like

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Speaker 1: are what is it like the Satanic Church where they're

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Speaker 1: not like they're not really oh, we gotta sacrifice virgins

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Speaker 1: level Satanists, it's more of sort of this almost activism

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Speaker 1: of religious freedom. They're not actually sacrificing virgins, is what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. No from And granted I was I was

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Speaker 1: about like Satanism and everything like that was very like,

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Speaker 1: don't do that, it's demonic, dat it at it up.

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Speaker 1: But like, yeah, don't don't, don't prevale Satan. I would

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Speaker 1: say that's a major tenant of I'm not religious personally,

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Speaker 1: but I do know that in Catholicism, don't hail Satan

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Speaker 1: is a big is a big thing. It seems to

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Speaker 1: be Catholicism one oh one or just really Christianity one

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Speaker 1: oh one, don't hail Satan. But like, as an adult,

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Speaker 1: everything I've heard about Satanists, yeah, seems to be more

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Speaker 1: like it seems to be actually pretty inclusive and progressive,

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Speaker 1: and it's not like it's almost kind of like people

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Speaker 1: are doing it ironically, Like it's not actually think they

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Speaker 1: worship the devil. It's chipster hipster Satanists. Yeah, it's and

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Speaker 1: I imagine I imagine some like hardcore Satanists who are

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Speaker 1: actually into like virgin sacrifice, like, oh, these hipster Satanists,

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Speaker 1: Like I was into Satanism back in eighteen twelve, back

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Speaker 1: before it was cool, um exactly. But yeah, No, I

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Speaker 1: think it's more like actually being progressive about like very

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Speaker 1: much standing for just in terms of like what I've

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Speaker 1: heard lately is that it's it's more about like, as

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Speaker 1: generally speaking kind of being anti religious fundamentalism that wants

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Speaker 1: to take us back several steps. Similarly, I think goth

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Speaker 1: And so you know, on that note, I want to

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Speaker 1: take a look at some animals that are super duper

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Speaker 1: perspective on these of like they're not scary looking to me,

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe to some people they are, but I

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Speaker 1: who very much described his style as candy coated horror,

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Speaker 1: in store. Oh absolutely, Yeah, it's like skeletons, but they're

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Speaker 1: having a tea party. That's my kind of party for sure.

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Speaker 1: So meg In, do you want to learn about the

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Speaker 1: Dracula parrot? Yes? Does he have an adorable cape and

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe scarf of some sort, Yes, he does, absolutely So.

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Speaker 1: This is pesquits carrot or also known as the vulture

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Speaker 1: in parrot. But I've seen sort of being called the

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Speaker 1: Dracula parrot. I'm not sure if it's officially named the

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Speaker 1: Dracula parrot. If that's just kind of a nickname that

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Speaker 1: Broms Stoker Dracula version of a parrot. Yeah, I can

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Speaker 1: definitely see the Bella Legosi esque resemblance. Yeah. Um yeah.

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Speaker 1: He's got a black head and it's like the black

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Speaker 1: he's got like black tail feathers as well. That's so cool,

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Speaker 1: very dramatic bird, I think. So these are found in

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Speaker 1: the rainforests of New Guinea. They are fairly large, so

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Speaker 1: about eighteen inches from head to tail, which is forty

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Speaker 1: a good amount of bird. They have a black vulture

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Speaker 1: front of their face looks like a bit like a

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Speaker 1: black vulture. But then they have a mohawk on top

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Speaker 1: of their head. It really looks like a cyberpunk version

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Speaker 1: does have that kind of regal bellogosie look or Gary

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Speaker 1: But yes, it's not I mean same, It's not Francis

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Speaker 1: Ford Coppola's best work. So while this parrot looks like

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Speaker 1: it would suck blood from virgins, they're actually frugivores, meaning

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Speaker 1: that it eats primarily fruit, so it loves figs, that's

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Speaker 1: picturing like an anthropomorphic version of this having a tea party,

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Speaker 1: Have you seen what we do in the Shadows, the

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Speaker 1: movie mockumentary? I sadly have not. It's been on my

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Speaker 1: So vultures have a nude face and neck because they

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Speaker 1: They dispose of carcasses. They're actually the terminus for a

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Speaker 1: exactly exactly the Dracula parrots. They look a little spooky,

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Speaker 1: love if, like whatever, the next big fantasy film to

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Speaker 1: of these guys. As a pet. Yeah, I want this

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Speaker 1: to be the evil wizard. Yes, into a giant a

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Speaker 1: giant bird exactly. Did you ever see that m e

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Speaker 1: remember which one of the two Ewalk movies it was,

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Speaker 1: it could be an evil witch or an evil wizard

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Speaker 1: So the bare necked umbrella bird has the kind of

421
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Speaker 1: the black haircrest and pompadour thing. It's inflatable. Neck wattle

422
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: is actually bright red and featherless, so kind of kind

423
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: of a nudy version, you know, whatever flips their boat honestly,

424
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm not judging. And then the long wattled umbrella bird

425
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: wins the award for wait for it, the largest wattle

426
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: of the umbrella bird genus. Wow, who the who the guest,

427
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: and the award goes to I know, like, there are

428
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: a million animals and so coming up with names for

429
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: all of them must be must have been very, very difficult.

430
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: But it's really nice when there's just one like that

431
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: that's just on the nose and you're like, I didn't

432
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: have to jump through any hoops for that. It's it's

433
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: a it's got a long wattle. It's the long wattle

434
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: umbrella bird, right exactly. I mean at a certain point

435
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: you run out of like, like, what are you gonna say,

436
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: like the fancy long wattle. No, it's just got a

437
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: long wattle, right, It's like, what do you want? What

438
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: am I gonna say? Am I going to call this

439
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: like a gary bird? I don't know, Just it's got

440
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: a long wattle, alright, I have other birds to name today,

441
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: we're moving on. I named this bird has a beak bird.

442
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm running out of ideas. Is that really the name

443
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: of a bird? No? But the fact that I had

444
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: to double chick right exactly. I really should have just

445
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: played it off like like, yeah, I'm referring to you,

446
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: you're the expert. It would question me the Audubon Society.

447
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: Maybe they would, actually, I don't know. It's not the

448
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: first time I've had the Audubon Society track me down.

449
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: But that's a story for another day. So the their

450
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: long inflatable wattle can be retracted in flight or lengthened

451
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: to impress the ladies. Just I don't know, visually picture

452
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: that this living tissue feather boa getting like cinched in

453
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: or being extended depending on the bird's mood. Oh goodness,

454
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: as it gets longer, like yeah, hey ladies, how you doing,

455
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: Hey ladies? Boom? So they their wattle can be as

456
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: long as their whole body. And they can also make

457
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: their their little headcrest stand erect, like as if Elvis

458
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: could make his hair like kind of like go whoop

459
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: like when he's trying to impress women. Doesn't look like

460
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: a mohawk when it does that, or or is it

461
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: more like, um, the entirety of their hair is standing.

462
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: It just poops it up, just makes adds more volume,

463
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: adds more style. In my in my head, it was

464
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: going from being a pompadour to a mohawk and then

465
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: back again. And I will never be able to unsee

466
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: that a convertible hairstyle. Maybe in the future we'll get

467
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: one of those. That'd be cool. I would watch that

468
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: cyberpunk movie for sure. Maybe Matrix flore is happening. These

469
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: birds actually do remind me of a real person, a

470
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: goth I just saw on the street, and God bless

471
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: this wonderful person. He was wearing a full on black

472
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: trench coat, and this is during like COVID times, so

473
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: he was also wearing a matching black face mask that

474
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: like covered almost his entire face and neck other than

475
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: his eyes. I think he even had like an umbrella.

476
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: It was absolute high drama fashion and absolute function, like

477
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: high high COVID coature. I loved it. It was great.

478
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean I think it was. I know I sound

479
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: like maybe I'm making fun. I'm actually really respect this

480
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: person because they are rocking their style and being socially responsible,

481
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: and I think I have so much goddamn respect for

482
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: that form and function. Yeah. I don't know much about

483
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: the fashion world, but form and function together and like

484
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: adhering to this style that you're very committed to, that

485
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: that deserves to be commended. Right Like I'm a goth

486
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: and I am socially responsible. I'm a goth who cares

487
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: about your grandma. That is beautiful. So much respect for

488
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: this person, and it says so much too, just about

489
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: the nature of this how serious this issue is, because

490
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: like we we talked earlier about how the goth movie

491
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: is very counter culture, and it's like no, we're like

492
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go out and not wear a mask,

493
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: like I'm not conforming by wearing a mask. It's just

494
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: the right thing to do. It's counter culture, not counter human,

495
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: not counter not counter your grandma exactly. And if there's

496
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: any golfs out there, or you don't have to be golf,

497
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: could be rockabilly. I don't care any anyone with a

498
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: particular fashion perspective who listens to the show and you've

499
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: got you've got a cool face mask style that that

500
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: you like to rock out like, yeah, show it to me.

501
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: I'd love to see it. But yeah, absolutely absolute respect

502
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: for people who are maintaining their individuality but also being

503
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: socially responsible. Really appreciate the same, and then teach me

504
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: your ways, because I've never been like fashion like fashion wise,

505
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: I've never been on top of it, So please please

506
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: teach me your ways. Maybe you could get a lesson

507
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: from the Umbrella Birds. I would love that. Nothing would

508
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: make me happier. Some of our younger listeners may not

509
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: know what the Satanic panic was in the US. During

510
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties and nineties, a conspiracy theory emerged that

511
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: there were widespread Satanic rituals that left behind a string

512
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: of murders and abuse, and even that the world was

513
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: being run by satanic witch cults. While there was no

514
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: actual evidence of there being a bunch of murderous Satanic

515
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: cultu ravaging the countryside or running the world by sacrificing virgins,

516
00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: the conspiracy gained popularity, especially when law enforcement and therapists

517
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: used now discredited techniques of extracting quote memories from people

518
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: using suggestive or coercive hypnosis and interrogation. When a potentially

519
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: vulnerable person, such as a child or summon seeking mental

520
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: health assistance, is faced with an authority figure, that authority

521
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: figure can have a concerning amount of sway over that

522
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: person's mental state and memory. Perhaps creepier than the idea

523
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: of satanic cults is the idea that you can indeed

524
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: affect memories and people, even unwittingly. Many of these therapists

525
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: and interrogators may not have even known they were creating

526
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: fabricated memories, but their techniques, which they thought were forcefully

527
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: extracting memories, were actually creating them. In nineteen eighty six,

528
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: a woman sought therapy for a family issue. The psychiatrists

529
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: use hypnosis and staged exorcisms, convincing the woman that she

530
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: had been in a satanic cult as a child had

531
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: eaten babies, had killed her own childhood friend, which of

532
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: course was not true, and had a hundred and twenty personalities,

533
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: including angels and animals, which also included a duck. Later,

534
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: the woman realized these were not memories but fabrications, and

535
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: distressing ones at that, so she soothed the psychiatrists in

536
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: one In nine seven, University of Washington psychologist Professor Elizabeth

537
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: Loftus and Jacqueline E. Pickerel wanted to investigate how these

538
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: tragic and irresponsible abuses of power could occur. They conducted

539
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: a study in which participants attended two sessions where they

540
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: were told to remember certain childhood memories. Some of the

541
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: memories were accurate provided by family members, while others were

542
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: fabricated by the researchers. They found it only took two

543
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: sessions to convince almost thirty percent of their subjects that

544
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: the false event took place. While it's unlikely you could

545
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: convince a random volunteer that they took part in satanic rituals,

546
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: someone in a stressful position, such as in an interrogation

547
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: room or clinical setting, may be more vulnerable to these

548
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: mind alterations. So remember that time we were walking in

549
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: a forest and a tree started to bleed. No, well,

550
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: let's make some new memories together after a short break.

551
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes we don't give plants enough credit for being creepy.

552
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: There are plants that smell like rotting carcasses to attract

553
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: pollinating insects, such as raphlegia. There are plants that are carnivores,

554
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: trapping insects and their jaws like the venus fly trap,

555
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: or in a sticky pit of doom, such as picture plants.

556
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: And there are some plants that just love to be

557
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: super extra horror dramatic. So, Megan, do you like plants?

558
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I do flowers and trees, and I'll be honest,

559
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: I kind of missing that. I miss being able to

560
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: go outside and just pass by a bush. Yeah, I know,

561
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: touch a tree, stroke a stroke a shrub, I know, right,

562
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: slow down and smell the roses. I miss plants too,

563
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: So this whole section is dedicated to plants, specifically satanic

564
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: goth plants, which are pretty great. So I think that

565
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: people often underestimate plants and their ability to just be

566
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: super creepy, super dramatic. And I want to talk first

567
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: about the desert bloodwood tree who already wins a prize

568
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: for that name. That's a great name. That's a great name.

569
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: That's like, hey, people out there who are bored and

570
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: trying to start like a metal band right now, Desert

571
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,959
Speaker 1: bloodwood tree. There you go, did it for you. So

572
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: this tree is found in the Australian desert. It has

573
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: rough bark and thick leaves. It grows up to fifty

574
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: ft tall, which is fifteen meters, which is pretty good.

575
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: It's in the same family as eucalyptus. It kind of

576
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: looks like a eucalyptus. Maybe the bark is like it's

577
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: not like smooth um kind of bark. It's pretty rough um.

578
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: But here's here's the thing is, when you cut into it,

579
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: it bleeds what looks like thick using red blood. So

580
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: there's a picture of that for you. It looks like

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00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: it looks like a tree that has like a big

582
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: oozing scab wound. And it's not just like it looks

583
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: like any old type of blood. It looks like straight

584
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: up hammer horror film movie blood. Yes, like did you

585
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: ever did you ever see Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow? I

586
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: saw part of it. I think I think when I

587
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: was a kid. I saw it and I think some

588
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: dude's head got chopped off, and then I stopped watching it.

589
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: But so, but basically, the headless horseman would make his

590
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: entrance in and out of like this crazy tree, like

591
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: in and out of hell, and like there a bunch

592
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: of dead bodies there. And I'm looking at this and

593
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm like this, like just seeing that bright red color

594
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: like on the bark of a tree as it's drenched,

595
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm getting very Tim Burton sleepy hollow vibes

596
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: from it does look a little bit like a bloody

597
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: portal to Hell that just closed up or is just

598
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: opening up. Exactly. Yeah, it looks or it makes me

599
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: think of, you know, like I don't know, some kind

600
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 1: of horror story where this tree is a dry ad

601
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: and then if you cut into it, it like bleeds

602
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: human blood. Yeah, or like the land is cursed or

603
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: something like that. Exactly. Yeah, this this looks like it

604
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: would be right at home in some sort of horror fiction.

605
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I want to throw some of

606
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: my favorite horror writers at it. I'm like, see this

607
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: picture and then tell me weave me a tale. I

608
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: want to throw them directly at the tree, Like, look

609
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: at the tree. Feel it's blood, look at it. So

610
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: this blood is actually, as you might have guessed, SAP.

611
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: So SAP is kind of like tree blood. It's often

612
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: so like trees will produce SAP that can be used

613
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: as a defensive mechanism. So like you know how insects

614
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: get trapped in amber, So when you cut into a

615
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: tree and it uses this like sticky sap out, that's

616
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: a defensive technique against little little beetles and insects that

617
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: try to like bore into the tree. So this is

618
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: this just happens to be bright red, very blood like sap. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is interesting. What any idea what causes that? I'm

620
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: not sure. I think it's because of a high concentration

621
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: of tannins in the SAP. So tannins give trees and

622
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: other plants a sort of dark content. It's actually what

623
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: makes tea dark, so that that might be what it is. Whatever,

624
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: whatever it is, it's remarkable, Yes, it's it's I think

625
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: it's kind of pretty as long as you, uh ignore

626
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: the fact it kind of looks like a flesh wound.

627
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: It also reminds me of those fountains you can get

628
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: for Halloween where it's like a blood fountain and it's

629
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: just kind of like you put in like fake blood

630
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: and it's like bright red blood fountain. Yeah. Yeah. If

631
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: if I, if you weren't explaining this to me right now,

632
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: and I just saw this like out of the blue

633
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: or out of context, I would assume that this tree

634
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: was sick somehow, that like some sort of fungus got

635
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: got into this tree and that it was causing it

636
00:41:55,239 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: to die. Yeah. Yeah, it looks it looks injured, looks

637
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: badly hurt. So the crystallized SAP has actually been used

638
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: as an antiseptic by Aboriginal people's for many, many years.

639
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: So it's a very well known tree by people who

640
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: have lived with this tree. And it actually is able

641
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: to grow what are called bush coconuts or bloodwood apples

642
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: that can be eaten, and that's a whole interesting story

643
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: in itself. So these bush coconuts are warty growths on

644
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 1: the trees, which are also called galls, which are made

645
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: in reaction to the larva of a scale insect. So

646
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 1: a scale insect is like they're these little like dome

647
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: shaped insects that feed on the tree. They kind of

648
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: look like barnacles a little bit, but their insects and

649
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: when their larva like kind of warm their way into

650
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: the tree um This is a common tactic of parasitic

651
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: insects that prey upon plants. So the parasitic larva will

652
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: induce a gal to grow, so either by injecting a

653
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: chemical or just by injuring the plant, and then the

654
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: plant grows this like kind of tumor growth around the larva,

655
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: and that tumor growth actually has a lot of nutrients

656
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: inside it. It's it's kind of in a way similar

657
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: to tumors in a human body. So like a tumor

658
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: in a human body will send out these messages to

659
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: the body to supply it with blood and help the

660
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: tumor grow and give and basically steal nutrients from the

661
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: healthy parts of your body. And so these parasitic larva

662
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: that induced this goal or like this like weird tumor

663
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: are kind of doing the same thing. They're tricking the

664
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: plant into putting a bunch of nutrients into this little

665
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: protective ball. But if you are a hungry human, you

666
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: can pick a bush coconut from the tree, crack it open.

667
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: I mean, like a coconut and the inside kind of

668
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: looks a little bit coconut like because it has this

669
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: like white flesh on the inside which is from the tree,

670
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: and it's full of starchy nutrients. And you can also

671
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: eat the larva because that is free protein. You know,

672
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: I was on board until you mentioned the larva. Well,

673
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, if you think, sorry, oh no, I was

674
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: just gonna say, bloodwood apples is like the coolest name

675
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: for a fruit, like ever, I know, I do want to.

676
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe this is too revealing about me, but

677
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: if you said, like, this is a bloodwood apple, it

678
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: makes me want to eat it more than a regular apple. Yeah, no,

679
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: absolutely like that. That's what this reminds me of. It's

680
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: like this is something right out of a dark, grim

681
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: fairy tale, right, It's like that, Drake mean, like you're

682
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: like orange and I'm like no, and then you're like,

683
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: what about a blood orange? Like yeah, you had me

684
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: at blood Like bloodwood apples just sounds like marketably so cool,

685
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Well, but you know, if you

686
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: think the larva is gross, I mean I know that

687
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: we are conditioned, especially in the US and and UM

688
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: to see insects as you know, gross but we do

689
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: eat honey, at least I do. I love honey. Honey

690
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: Honey is plant nectar that has been processed inside of

691
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: the bodies and regurgitated. So you know, it's all a

692
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: matter of perspective. That's a great point. You know, it's

693
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: important to, Yeah, you like, before you turn your nose

694
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: up at something, you recognize we're a lot of a

695
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: lot of commonplace foods, right, I mean, beer and wine

696
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: is bacteria poop. You know what I'm saying is you're

697
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: a hypocrite unless you eat larva. Well you've convinced me

698
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: if I have the opportunity, you need to have a

699
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: bloodwood apple. Well, I've got an apple. I've got a

700
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: big old sack of bloodwood apples. I'm going Cindia here

701
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: right now. Like, I don't. I'm sorry, that was a joke.

702
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to get your hopes. But like, doesn't

703
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: that sound like something an evil witch would keep inside

704
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: of her wood inside of her woodland cottage? Like, I

705
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: just like a bushel of bloodwood apples. We're we're creating

706
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: a character. I feel like we have a witch that

707
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: turns into a Dracula parent who has a bunch of

708
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: bloodwood apples like and and obviously we say this would

709
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: no disrespect to any anybody who practices any witches, Yeah,

710
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: to any any practicing wickens out there, But no, we're

711
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: talking about straight up storybook which like let that that's

712
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, and talking about snow white snow

713
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: white witches that go around killing girls or thinking doing

714
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: it in a weirdly roundabout way. Now I've got I've

715
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: got some choice words for or the snow white witch,

716
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: because it's like you could just you could just kill her,

717
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: you know, like what's with this whole Like, and she

718
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: would go into an eternal sleep unless some guy kisses her.

719
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: And she's really pretty, so I can't imagine any guy

720
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: kissing her. Good plan, She tried like outsourcing it, because

721
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: she tried to have the Woodsman do it and he

722
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: decided not to and so she's like, I'm going to

723
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: roll up my sleeves and get my hands dirty and

724
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: do it myself. And she picks the most yet circuitous,

725
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: roundabout way of going about dispatching her enemies, and it

726
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: just says, yeah, it just seems horribly inefficient, like you're

727
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: just like, hey, snow white came here, I'm your queen

728
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: and she's like yeah, and she's like, and now I

729
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: stab you done? You know. I mean, I'm not advocating

730
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: for it. I don't want snow White to get stabbed,

731
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: but I'm saying it just doesn't make any sense. Maybe

732
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: the queen didn't actually want to be a queen. Maybe

733
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: she wanted to be an actor and then, but you

734
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: can't really do that when you're royalty. You have a

735
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: country to run, and so she was just using this

736
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: as an excuse to do a bit. I think she

737
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: was using it as an excuse to live the hag lifestyle.

738
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: I think she wanted the hag lifestyle, but she didn't

739
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: want the hag responsibilities. So she kind of just wanted

740
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: to moonlight as a hag and this was her way

741
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: to do it. Like, yeah, you know, I can't think

742
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: of any other reason. No, I can't either. I think

743
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: we solved it. We solved snow White on this podcast

744
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: about animals. We got to the bottom of that mystery.

745
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: So now I want to talk about another ghoulish and

746
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: spooky tree. This tree doesn't have as cool of the name.

747
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: It's called the sandbox tree. The sandbox tree is like

748
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: the body mod goth of the tree world, you know,

749
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: like with a bunch of piercing and spikes and body mods.

750
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: So this tree is found in the amaz Zonian Rainforest

751
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: and in other tropical regions in North and South America.

752
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: It's bark is completely covered in huge, nasty looking thorns.

753
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: So I've got a picture in here for it. It's

754
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: just all thorns basically. Consequently, it is sometimes called a

755
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: monkey no climb tree, which I like that name a

756
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: little better. Actually, it's straightforward. It's like it's again like

757
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: the naming convention of the long wattled umbrella bird. It's like,

758
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 1: monkeys don't climb this tree. So this is a monkey

759
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: do not climb tree. No more monkeys climbing on this tree.

760
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: So if that's not misanthropic enough for you, it also

761
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: has toxic caustic SAP that has been used by fisherman

762
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: to poison fish again rude or used to lace poison

763
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 1: weapons like poison arrows. If that's not goth enough for you,

764
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: it has exploding fruit. This tree is so metal. Oh

765
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: my gosh, it's very I would say it's a little extra.

766
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: So you're like, okay, dial it back. A couple of

767
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: not dial it down, Tim Burton Tree. Yeah, like, yeah,

768
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: it's very Helena bottom carter where it's like Helena just

769
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: sometimes you're a little too much bottom, Like there's a

770
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 1: little too much bottom carter. Like I get that you

771
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: are actually Helena bottom carter, but sometimes like your extra

772
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: bottom carter and I need you to dial back. Sometimes

773
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: we just want you to be Helena, that's all. Yeah,

774
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: just yeah, give us the Helena and not the bottom carter.

775
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: Now is this fruit also poisonous? I think if you

776
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: eat it you get super bad diarrhea, So yeah, probably

777
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: so so I would I would say that counts as poisonous,

778
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: so hard pass on this and go back to those

779
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: blood would apples. Well it's a soft pass because of

780
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: the diarrhea. But yeah, so um so they they have

781
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: fruiting bodies again, simmer down, Helena bottom carter, but they

782
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: look like tiny black pumpkins. It just does so at

783
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: that point. At this point, this is like the live

784
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: journal or tumbler of a goth kid who's like making

785
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: their O see character Tree, which is like and it's

786
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: got spikes all over and its sap is poison and

787
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: it's fruit is poisoned, and it's fruit or a little

788
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: black pumpkins. It does feel a little edge lordy as

789
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: far as little trees go, right, Like, I didn't feel

790
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: like the like the bloodwood tree was trying too hard.

791
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 1: This tree, actually, yeah, it does feel like it's trying

792
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: just a little hard. It's like it sees the bloodwood tree,

793
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: which has got its whole cool as that it going on.

794
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: It's like, well, I've got spikes, I got like black pumpkins,

795
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: and oh did I mention they explode like the Hobgoblins bombs. Yeah,

796
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: that's that's how cool I am. I'm basically like a

797
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: Sparta Man villain, basically so hardcore. I don't know why

798
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: we made it sound like a teenager. Well this, I mean,

799
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: it's like it kind of deserves it all this drama.

800
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: So these little black pumpkin capsules are seed pods, and

801
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: they explode once they're ripe. So they start out as

802
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: green when they're unripe, and then they turn black and

803
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: then they explode naturally, and they distribute the seeds over

804
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: a hundred feet away from the tree, and the explosion

805
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: causes the seeds to fly at a hundred and sixty

806
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:49,479
Speaker 1: miles per hour, which is seventy per second. Yeah, which

807
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: is why it's also sometimes called the dynamite tree, which gosh, yeah,

808
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: again a little I don't know, maybe a little overboard, right,

809
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: Like I get I get it. Your your tree. You

810
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: want to distribute your seeds because it increases the chance

811
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: that the saplings will be able to grow, because they

812
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: need to be able to grow without being covered by

813
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: other trees. So you don't want to like compete with

814
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: your own baby saplings. So that's why trees have invented

815
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: all these methods of distributing seeds over large areas. But

816
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: it seems like a bit of an excuse to be

817
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: a drama queen the like. Granted, I'm not going to

818
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: be strolling through the Amazon anytime soon, but could you

819
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: like imagine just like walking through a forest and all

820
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: of a sudden, like these these fruit explode and going

821
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: like right, and it's going out? How did its sixty

822
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: miles before? It just flies? Like wow? Man, that's like

823
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: if I got flying, Yeah, if I got like tree

824
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: seed trapnel in my eye just like while walking through

825
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: I feel like at that point I would realize that

826
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: there is an angry forest god who does not want me.

827
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: I would never go outside again, which I have good

828
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: news for you. I'm kind of living that life right now.

829
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of staying in. I hope everyone is practicing good

830
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: dental health. No, this is not a segue to an ad.

831
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: It's a segue to the bleeding tooth fungus. What so

832
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: do you want to talk about some bleeding teeth bleeding teeth? Well,

833
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: I do have a gennis appointment in a couple of months,

834
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: so probably better to prepare myself now, right right, yeah, yeah, again,

835
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: another another cool band name idea, bleeding bleeding tooth fungus.

836
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: I think, to me, that's like a that'd be like

837
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: a techno goth kind of thing, you know, like like

838
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: I think it's like the knockoff version of bleeding gums

839
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: Murphy from The Simpsons. That's the first thing in my head,

840
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: right right, yeah, No, I think you're right. I think

841
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: nature copied the Simpson Simpson did it copied them? Yep,

842
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: Simsence did it. So this is the scientific name of this.

843
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: Let's see if I can pronounce this in one go

844
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: hide nullum pecky. That sounds great. That's awesome, so smart.

845
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: That sounds so smart. That's such a cool name. So

846
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 1: it has a few interesting nicknames, like I mentioned bleeding

847
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: tooth fungus also called red juice tooth, strawberries and cream,

848
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,479
Speaker 1: and the Devil's tooth. One of those things is not

849
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: like the other. I know, I know, right, It's like

850
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: it's like Devil's tooth, strawberries and cream. Wait a minute,

851
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: wait a minute for you who invited you to this

852
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: naming meeting. Just imagine all these like really glum goths

853
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: scientists in this meeting to name this fungus, and then

854
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: this one very cheerful, cheerful lad going, why don't we

855
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: name it strawberries and cream? It reminds me of my

856
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: favorite snack, And then we cut over to the next one.

857
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I Devil's too. I'm curious to see

858
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 1: what this looks like because I'm like, what, which name

859
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: is more fitting? So I'm looking at the picture now

860
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: and like I kind of get where the guy who

861
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: was like strawberries and cream is coming from. Yeah, But

862
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: like I think, I don't necessarily know if Devil's tooth

863
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: is what I would have initially come up with, but

864
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: I can see how how the name applies. I would say,

865
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:48,399
Speaker 1: Mueller covered in jam. You know, you know how like, um,

866
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 1: there are those like seeing I pictures where like, um,

867
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: it's like you look at this picture, it's like, oh,

868
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: what do you see? Well? I see two women's faces

869
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: looking at each other. The other person goes, I see

870
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 1: a case, and then the person who did who's holding

871
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: out the pictures like, well, you're both right, you're just

872
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: looking at it from different perspectives. I hate that guy.

873
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: That guy needs to commit to one or the other area.

874
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: He needs to stop being ambiguous with his art. But no,

875
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I'm seeing with that. Like looking

876
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: at this picture, I'm like, oh, I can totally see

877
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 1: the guy who's like, what do you see? I see

878
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: strawberries and cream, and the other person to you know,

879
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: no big deal, I see the tomata. So this fungus

880
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: is found in North America, Europe, the Middle East, Korea,

881
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: and Australia, so it's safe to say that it's probably

882
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: taking over the whole world. But whatever. At this point

883
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: it is fine, don't worry about it. But some last

884
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: of us fungus going to be happening right now that

885
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: would be terrifying in real life or pretty metal weirdly

886
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: appetizing weirdly appetizing zombies. So what we're seeing here, and

887
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: I do encourage you look it up. I also have

888
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: a link in the show notes to a photo. So

889
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: the fungus is a white kind of look. I can

890
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: see why. It's sort of like a tooth like. It

891
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: looks a little bit like a weird, funky shaped moler.

892
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: It has a bunch of tooth like projections. Actually, um, yeah,

893
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: that that one. Definitely, that bigger one definitely looks like

894
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: a mohler of some kind. Yeah. Yeah. It Also it's

895
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: like it's like a molar that has a bunch of

896
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: teeth on the molar tube because each of those like

897
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: little little tooth like projections contains spores, but the you

898
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: can't really see those as well. That's just a fun

899
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: little detail. It's like the moler that has teeth, which

900
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: is cool. And then it looks like it is just

901
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: bleeding a bunch of bright red blood or I don't know,

902
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: maybe strawberry jam. It's hard to tell. Sometimes it's like

903
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: you think you come across a murder scene and then

904
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: you taste it's like this is strawberry jam. Murder solved.

905
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: Why this is just corn syrup? There was this viral

906
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: image and I cannot attest to the veracity of this,

907
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: so so please forgive me if this was a fake.

908
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: But it was like this little dog lying on the

909
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: floor and it looked like it. It was like this

910
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: little white, fluffy dog. It looked like it was covered

911
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: in blood. And then you got closer and it was like,

912
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: it's totally fine. It had just gotten into jam. It

913
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: was covered in strawberry jam, and it had fallen. It

914
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: had fallen asleep because it ate so much started jam

915
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: was taking a little jam naphill puppy. I guess you

916
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: could say it looks like a big, weirdly shaped moller

917
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: covered in blood or jam or whatever. The bleeding aspect

918
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: of it, where it seems to be oozing these droplets

919
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: of blood, is actually called gutation. So this is where

920
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: a plant or a fungus sweat out sap so it

921
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: can It looks on a plant where the gutation droplets

922
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: are actually clear, it looks like dew drops, but the

923
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: plant is actually excreting sap, almost like their sweating. And

924
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: weirdly enough, the red pigment in this fungus, the sweat

925
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: of this bleeding tooth fungus actually contains antibacterial and anticoagulant properties,

926
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: which I don't know. That's cool. I guess that's really cool.

927
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: The fungus is actually a symbiote. Symbiote, the fungus receives

928
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: carbon from the host and the host receives minerals from

929
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: the fungus, so they have a cool exchange there. And this,

930
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, like, if someone dared you to eat this fungus,

931
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: do you think you'd do it? No, Like, on the

932
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: one hand, yeah no, And like it just it looks

933
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: like blood blisters. Looks like a bunch of blood blisters.

934
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: I would never I would never eat anything resembling blood blisters.

935
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: This fungus is actually not poisonous, even though it looks

936
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: super poisonous. Looks it looks like it would murder you.

937
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: It looks like it its like would murder you and

938
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: then absorb your blood to make more blood. But yeah,

939
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: it is not poisonous. But I wouldn't go around eating

940
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: it because apparently it tastes really gross. Also, in general,

941
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: unless you really know your stuff about mushrooms, don't eat

942
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: any mushroom because like you may think, like, oh, I

943
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: know what this mushroom is it's fine, and you eat

944
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: it and it's actually a different mushroom that looks almost

945
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: exactly the same that make sure but fall off and

946
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: your eyeballs bleed. So you know, no, like, yeah, only

947
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: the only mushrooms I eat are the ones I get

948
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: from the supermarket, So right, yeah, that's probably probably safe.

949
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: Bet I would be very tempted, though, Like if I

950
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: could be assured that this was this type of fungus

951
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: and it's not going to kill me, I'd want to

952
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: give it a little lick, just the little one. I

953
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: was just about to say, I like, like knowing that

954
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: someone out there looked at this and went I'm gonna

955
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: eat it and then went yep, sure as gross Like

956
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: that to me is mind boggling. I'm like, who looked

957
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: at that and went, oh, let's I think I'm gonna

958
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:34,479
Speaker 1: taste it? No? Can I? Can? I be honest here?

959
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: I think that would probably me, you know, Like I mean, like,

960
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: if I knew it wasn't going to hurt me, that

961
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: would be me. That would be Like, if I knew

962
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't poisonous, I probably know what probably happened. It was.

963
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: It was the strawberries and cream scientist who was like, oh,

964
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: I think I'll give it to loot. Oh no, this

965
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: doesn't taste like strawberries and cream at all. I have

966
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: been bamboos And he's like, we must change the name.

967
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: They're like too late, sorry, you already submitted it. There

968
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: are no take backs, and he's like, oh, faddle sticks. Well,

969
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: onto the next one. Scientists are they spend not very

970
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: many people know this. They spend eight of their time

971
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: just naming things. That's where all those government grants are

972
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: going to the to the naming rooms, the naming chambers.

973
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: Are you an aspiring which you'll have to become a

974
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: botanist first. There are many plants that are associated with

975
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: witchcraft or the supernatural. Man Drake plants, a genus of

976
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: flowering nightshade, have roots that often look a little bit

977
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: too human like, leading people to believe that they really

978
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: are a small humanoid figure with supernatural properties. They're said

979
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: to be able to scream and kill those who hear

980
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: it when being plucked from the ground, so people would

981
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: tie the plants to dogs to trick the dog into

982
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: uprooting the man drink. Fortunately, man drake plant can't kill

983
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: you with their scream, given that they can't scream at all.

984
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: What they can do is send you on a wild trip.

985
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: They contain hallucinogenic alkaloids, which may have led to the

986
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: belief that they can be used in witchcraft to meet

987
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: with the devil. I mean if by having a meeting

988
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: with the devil they meant getting high as hell. And

989
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: if you're thinking of trying these out, either to conduct

990
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: a ritual or to quote meet the devil, I'd advise

991
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: against it. They're super poisonous and will cause vomiting, diarrhy a, dizziness,

992
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: among other nasty symptoms. There are much less unhealthy ways

993
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: to meet with the devil, such as writing him a

994
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: nice letter and the blood of your enemies. When we return,

995
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: we're going to meet a few satanic creatures who aren't

996
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: so bad when you get to know them. From black

997
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: cats to bats, they're all sorts of animals who have

998
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: become scapegoats for evil. Sometimes they're literally goats. Goats have

999
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: historically been associated with the devil and witches in European

1000
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: folk lore, and while it could have something to do

1001
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: with those devilish horns and weird looking eyes, it could

1002
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: also be due to Greek mythology surrounding the satyr, a horny,

1003
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: drunken goatman who engaged in all sorts of weird sexual pursuits.

1004
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: But more generally, I think we like to blame animals

1005
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: for evil because it makes us feel better about being human.

1006
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: If animals are beast like creatures are the real monsters,

1007
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: then humans are free of sin. And sometimes we even

1008
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: justify mass beetle murder by saying it will cleanse our souls. So, Megan,

1009
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: under what circumstances do you think you would hail satan um?

1010
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,959
Speaker 1: Probably none, I see it. I mean that's fair enough.

1011
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: As I said, I was raised Catholic, and I'm not

1012
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: very religious these days, but like, because of that upbringing,

1013
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: I have it instilled in me to like not mess

1014
01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,919
Speaker 1: with certain things, Like I don't like I know, it's

1015
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: just a game, but like I'd never play with a

1016
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: Uiji board, Like I can understand that. Look, I understand that.

1017
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: You know personally, I don't personally hail Satan. Again, I

1018
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: am all for religious freedom, so if you do choose tor,

1019
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: you know, I think, especially in the Middle Ages and stuff,

1020
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: religious people were always accusing animals of being various forms

1021
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:30,439
Speaker 1: of Satan. So I think if Satan actually was all

1022
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: these different animals, that would that would earn my respect,

1023
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: Like you really, you can be all these animals all

1024
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: at once. He's Satan, just an animal, Like, right, are

1025
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: you an animal? Satan? So that's cool. Yeah, that's that's

1026
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. That would be really cool. Like I maybe

1027
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: maybe I would hail Satan in the scenario in which

1028
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: he's an animalph and he had one of those cool

1029
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: cube things so that I could be an animalph too. Yeah,

1030
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: that's all I needed to hear. And he's like, you

1031
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,439
Speaker 1: is fine, And I'm like, wait, no, so don't stay

1032
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: as an animal for more than two hours, or you'll

1033
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: thank you for clarifying that I wasn't sure. So I

1034
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: ask you that question not to trick you into a

1035
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: life of sin, into pravity, but because I want to

1036
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: talk to you about the devil beetle or the Devil's

1037
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: coach horse beetle. So this is a long, black, stinky

1038
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: beetle who has been thought to be associated with the

1039
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: devil since the Middle Ages. Grows about an inch long,

1040
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: it's jet black. It's found in Europe and northern Africa.

1041
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: It kind of I guess the best way I can

1042
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: describe it is it looks like a giant flat ant

1043
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: with a long segmented tail and wings. It looks like

1044
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: somebody took a rolling pen and just kind of flattened

1045
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: out and aunt. Does that make sense? Yeah, I feel

1046
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: like that's a good description of it. It, Yeah, because

1047
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't really look like a beetle to me too.

1048
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: It's too narrow in my mind to be a beetle. Yeah, yeah,

1049
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 1: I mean it is not an ant. I don't want

1050
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: people to be confused. It just has it looks a

1051
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: little bit like that. Now, obviously its body is not

1052
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: segmented in the way that it ant is. It doesn't.

1053
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't have that little wasp cinched in abdomen. It's

1054
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: just kind of it's got like a it's got an

1055
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: ant like head. It's got these big mandibles and then

1056
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: it's got um, a couple of body segments, you know, sleek, sleek,

1057
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: modern like um yeah, sleek and modern like uh like.

1058
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: It's the iPhone of beetles, exactly, like the black the

1059
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: black iPhone of Beatles. It's got that nice matte black

1060
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:53,799
Speaker 1: beetle new air right right exactly. I'm not the biggest

1061
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: insect fan, but like say, like we were talking about

1062
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: at the at the top of the show, certain animals

1063
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: get a bad rap and I feel like a lot

1064
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: of insects like this one where their mistakes they could

1065
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: easily be mistaken for something that they're not. As an

1066
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: excellent example of that, like, if I saw one of

1067
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,600
Speaker 1: these in my home, I would probably assume it was

1068
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: it was some sort of ant and it would be

1069
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: unwelcome in my space. But like, yeah, like which is unfortunate,

1070
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: because yeah, it doesn't it probably like beetles typically, as

1071
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,799
Speaker 1: far as I know, and granted I'm not a zoological expert,

1072
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: but beatles typically like don't really hurt people, right, well, yeah,

1073
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean they can sometimes give you a nasty bite.

1074
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 1: These ones actually, uh, those big mandibles are capable of

1075
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,560
Speaker 1: a bit of a bad bite. They don't inject venom,

1076
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: you leave them alone, they'll leave you alone typically, right Basically, Yeah,

1077
01:09:55,520 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 1: I mean some beetles do spray caustic stinky juice at you,

1078
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 1: which these ones do happen to do, but I you know,

1079
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 1: they only do it if you deserve it, really so.

1080
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: In English folklore, the devil beetle was said to have

1081
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: eaten the core of Eve's discarded apple, and instead of

1082
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 1: being regaled for not wasting fruit, it has been ostracized

1083
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: for being evil. And thus the beetle obtained the knowledge

1084
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: give given to Adam and Eve, and it started its

1085
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: own beatle society. And this beetle was like, oh no,

1086
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm naked, Oh jeez, cheapers or no um. They have

1087
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: also been slandered as helping Judas find Christ, so they

1088
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: allegedly knarked on Christ by using their tails to point

1089
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 1: in the direction of where he was hiding. And what's

1090
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,879
Speaker 1: interesting about this one is it's at least tangentially related

1091
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: to be these beetles behaviors. So the devil Beatles do

1092
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: curve their tails upward like a scorpion, but it is

1093
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: not to tell you where Christ is hiding, to like

1094
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: cheat at hide and secret Christ. But it is actually

1095
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: a threat display that they do when they're feeling threatened

1096
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: and they're warning you that they are about to shoot

1097
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: some stinky yellow goo at you unless you back off.

1098
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: I always appreciate an animal that gives you a heads

1099
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: up what's about to happen. I always look, yeah, what

1100
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: I think Some of these, like Middle Ages religious people

1101
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: did like some some religious person was like saw this

1102
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: and then continued to pester the beetle and the Beatles like,

1103
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: don't do it, I warn you. In then they just

1104
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: like kept poking at it, and then it shots stinky

1105
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: yellow goo at this person. And then this person is

1106
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: like furiously writing like and the beetle judas to find

1107
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: Christ and they should all be destroyed, and the beetle

1108
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: is actually a witch in disguise. We must burn all beetles. Well,

1109
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny say that because in Ireland the

1110
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: protocol was that you had to burn these beetles and

1111
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: not step on it because again which rules I suppose,

1112
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: because you had to burn it to kill the devil beetle.

1113
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, like stepping on it wasn't good enough, right.

1114
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: I like to imagine they had like very small scale

1115
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: inquisition where you like construct a tiny pyre for this

1116
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: beetle or like put it in a tiny iron maiden

1117
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 1: trying to get it to confess tiny pire, and you

1118
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 1: would literally just light a match. Yeah, Like how I

1119
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 1: feel really bad for animals that like get stigmatized like

1120
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: this by just human society of people just not knowing

1121
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: any better, exactly like black cats yeah, exactly. And so

1122
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm like looking at this, and I'm like this, it's

1123
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 1: a wonder this thing isn't extinct. Given we thought they

1124
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: were evil and would probably try try to murder them

1125
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: any chance we got. It's it's a wonder they're still around.

1126
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: It's almost as if some sort of dark forces helping them.

1127
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: It's crazy how like humans seem to be like, oh,

1128
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: this is a thing I don't understand, we must kill it.

1129
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: In European folklore, it said that if you kill one

1130
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: of these beetles, you will be forgiven for seven years

1131
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: of sin, which seems like a really convenient excuse to

1132
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 1: feel good about crushing an innocent beetle just because it's

1133
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:49,560
Speaker 1: stinky and bite you sometimes. I mean, come on, uh,

1134
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: like you can make up for the fact that you, like,

1135
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, light on your taxes or something like, right,

1136
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 1: you committed tax fraud, and so you're like, it's cool,

1137
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: just crush a bunch of beetles. Let's just kill a

1138
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: few beetles and squarsis it's all good. I murdered someone.

1139
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: How many beetles do I have to kill? Like until

1140
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 1: we're until we're all like even Stevens like, I'm fully

1141
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 1: prepared to murder as many beetles as it takes because

1142
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 1: I just love killing. That is such like Middle Age European. Yeah,

1143
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: like I burned the city to the ground. I guess

1144
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,560
Speaker 1: I gotta kill a beetle now, and we're all squares.

1145
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 1: I literally like, what year did like London catch fire?

1146
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: I guess that wasn't the Middle Ages. I think that

1147
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: was more like the seventeen hundreds, but like, like, oh, yeah,

1148
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 1: I burned all of London. But it's cool, guys, I

1149
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: killed the devil beetle before I did, so guess who

1150
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 1: also burned in that fire? The devil beetle. So really,

1151
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: I think I came out ahead of this one. I

1152
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: mentioned ear they are sort of the pastel goth, and

1153
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: I want to put forth the case that Flamingos are

1154
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: pastel GoF because they, of course are that beautiful, vibrant pink.

1155
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: They're kind of these like basically you would think that, oh, flamingo,

1156
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 1: that's the anti goth, but no, have you seen a

1157
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: picture of what looks like them vomiting blood into their

1158
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: baby's mouths. I have not. I can't say I ever have.

1159
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: So someone actually sent me this viral video on Twitter,

1160
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: and I'm really sorry I would credit you. I cannot

1161
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 1: find the tweet for the life of me, but thank

1162
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: you so much Twitter user. And it looks like a

1163
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: flamingo stabbing its partner in the head until it bleeds

1164
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 1: and then the blood runs down into the chick smells.

1165
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 1: So basically you've got one flamingo on top of the other.

1166
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 1: It's got its beak on the flamingo skull. It looks

1167
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: like it's stabbing the flamingo in the head, and this

1168
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: blood is like running down the flamingo's head and into

1169
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: the baby's mouth. I have a video of that for

1170
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: you to watch. Oh my gosh, Like just from your description,

1171
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: that sounds so metal. I mean, if you think I'm

1172
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: just gonna show you like basically a flamingo snuff film, um,

1173
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: it's it's okay. It definitely. Yeah. It looks like they're

1174
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, like flamingo murder is happening right now, right,

1175
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: like like I have stabbed your head to feed my child.

1176
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: But so there's there's more to this story. And this

1177
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: is actually a very sweet and loving video. So this

1178
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: is actually a confused flamingo parent trying to feed its

1179
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: chick crop milk, but accidentally letting it dribble all over

1180
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 1: its partner's head, who is also feeding their chick crop milk.

1181
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: So that that sounds really probably confusing to people who

1182
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: are like, wait, birds milk. What birds are not mammals,

1183
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: so they don't have mammary glands. But crop milk is

1184
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: a fluid produced in the bird's crop. So the crop

1185
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 1: is a muscular pouch near the throat where food is

1186
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 1: stored and awaits passage into the rest of the digestive system.

1187
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 1: And some bird species can use this crop to process

1188
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 1: food for their chicks. So pigeons, doves, and penguins create

1189
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,839
Speaker 1: crop milk. In pigeons, it's actually called pigeon milk, which

1190
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 1: a little you know. I love birds, um, but if

1191
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 1: someone tried to say, like, here, you want to drink

1192
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: this room temperature glass of pigeon milk, I think I'd

1193
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: faint that away. I could thank you for being so

1194
01:17:54,280 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: considerate that appreciate the offer, but I'm I'm I'm good.

1195
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm good. Actually I'm good without the pigeon milk. But

1196
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, I appreciate the offer, your hospitality. Yes,

1197
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: thank you. I the thought is what counts. Well, you

1198
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,600
Speaker 1: did think I would want pigeon milk, So that's not

1199
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: a great thought actually, now that I think about what

1200
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, and then I would flee from

1201
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: this person's home and never return. So crop milk is

1202
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: a fat and protein rich fluid produced by the lining

1203
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: of the crop, and flamingo's crop milk is produced not

1204
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 1: just in the crop but glands in the entire upper

1205
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: digestive system. So the reason it looks like blood is

1206
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 1: probably because of the high density of carotenoid pigments that

1207
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: they collect from their diet of algae and crustaceans that

1208
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: are all rich in beta keratin. So that's what also

1209
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: gives them their pink color. So flamingo chicks actually come

1210
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 1: out with sort of grayish white feathers, and as they

1211
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 1: mature into adults and eat enough of this beta caratin,

1212
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: it turns their feathers pink. So like all of this

1213
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:15,480
Speaker 1: is basically a big misunderstanding, the flamingos are just innocently

1214
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: basically regurgitating milk from their insides into their chick's mouth

1215
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: in a very sweet parenting move. Um, nothing gross having here, gross, No,

1216
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 1: just parental love. Their crop. Milk actually does contain quote

1217
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 1: unquote blood in a way like it has red and

1218
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 1: white blood cells in it, but it's not it's not

1219
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: really like blood. It's not. It's not it's it's not

1220
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 1: like we were making Dracula jokes earlier. It's not like

1221
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: feast upon my blood flesh, right exactly exactly. Yeah, And

1222
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that color because of the red

1223
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: blood cells. I think it's that color because of the

1224
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: the carotenoid pigments that they get their diet. I love

1225
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: that factoids about flamingo so much is that they're not

1226
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: naturally pink. It's it's all in the diet. Yeah. I mean,

1227
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: if a human being basically overdosed on carrots, your skin

1228
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 1: would turn a little bit orange. I mean you'd have

1229
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: to have I've seen a lot like, oh, if you

1230
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: eat too many carrots, your skin is going to turn orange.

1231
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 1: But I think you have to eat insane amounts of

1232
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 1: carrots for that to happen, like because carrots do actually

1233
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: have carrotin in it um, but like it is, it

1234
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 1: would be just like grotesque amounts of carrots, like you

1235
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:40,919
Speaker 1: would have to be on a almost disgusting carrot regimen,

1236
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: like like a conveyor belt, putting a carrot in your

1237
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 1: mouth every minute, every day, I think for your skin

1238
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 1: to turn orange from carrots again hard pass. I like carrots,

1239
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 1: not that much. You can wash it down with some

1240
01:20:55,160 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: nice pigeon milk. You know. I was just thinking to

1241
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 1: myself about how hungry I am because I haven't had

1242
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 1: lunch yet. But now I'm not for you, I am good.

1243
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: It's called the creature feature diet, where you just lose

1244
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: your appetite. In fact, I don't think I'll ever eat again.

1245
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: Oh that's not well, that's not doctor approved. This podcast

1246
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: does not sanction that diet. No, no, no, it doesn't. Guys.

1247
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: Eat food. Food is good for you. Eat food or

1248
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: you will die. Yeah, yeah, that's that's actually scientifically true.

1249
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you don't have to drink pigeon milk though

1250
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 1: it could make your bones strong, but you don't have

1251
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: to just stick to regular milk. Yeah, just stick to

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Speaker 1: regular cow teat milk that we suckle from cows. Totally

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01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: normal and totally good. Turn the weirdest things into food,

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01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: don't we We do, we really do? You know? We

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01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 1: scoff at like at like bloodwood apples and pigeon milk.

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Speaker 1: But here we are drinking cow teat juice. You know

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01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 1: that's that's that's sweet, sweet juice from the cow teet.

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Speaker 1: It is funny. I was making fun of the guy

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01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: earlier who decided like, hey, I'm gonna eat that mushroom.

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01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat that funce to determine whether or not

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01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: as delicious or gross. And then he was like, I

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01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 1: tried it, and now I know it's gross. Like I

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01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: was making fun of him just now. But someone at

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Speaker 1: some point in time, Yeah, I was looking at a

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01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: cow and decided I'm gonna drink that right, And this

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01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: is so weird idea I would never write exactly like

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01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: like oh this this object came out of this chicken butt.

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01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 1: I'm putting it in my mouth now. Boom, yeah, yeah exactly.

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Speaker 1: I've I've pulled this weird root out of the ground.

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01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 1: I guess I'll eat that too. Gosh, how did we

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01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 1: do it? How did we figure it out? I legitimately

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01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I think a lot of people died on

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01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: on the on that kind of like quest to find

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01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 1: edible things that animals poop out, A lot of trial

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01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 1: and error that a lot of trial and error in

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01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 1: the whole, like which animal excretions can we put in

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01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: our mouth? Sort of adventure O lord. So to end

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01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 1: the show, I want to talk about one of my

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01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 1: favorite geckos, which yes I do have a favorite gecko,

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01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 1: and it's the Satanic leaf tailed gecko. Natally, he's so cute,

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01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: he gosh, so amazing him, he's so cool. He looks

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01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 1: like a dragon with no wing, like he looks like

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01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 1: Satan's dragon, but he doesn't have wings. But other than that,

1284
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:58,799
Speaker 1: like a Satanic dragon made out of lava and fire,

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01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 1: and its eyes are it out of fire. It's amazing.

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01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: So this is the euro Platus fantasticus. So and it

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01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: is called fantasticus because again that's like from the word

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01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:17,759
Speaker 1: fantasia or phantasm, where it's like it is fantastic looking.

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01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 1: It's it looks like an imaginary creature, so it is.

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01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: It's a little guy, so like a baby dragon. It's

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01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: only grows about three inches and it really looks like

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01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: it's made out of living fire and brimstone. So it's

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01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: got red eyes. It's got skin that comes in a

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01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 1: variety of hues of black, reddish brown, gold, can even

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01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 1: have a purpleish hue and oranges, and its tail looks

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01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: like a dead leaf, and it has a number of

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01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: spines all over its body, and it even has these

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01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: like notches in its tail and skin to make it

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01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 1: look more convincingly like a dead leaf, like you know

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01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: how dead leaves have those like kind of like brown

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01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: notches as the leaf is decaying. And it's got like

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01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 1: these little fleshy horns over its eyes, and it is

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01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 1: indeed a form of crypsis to try to make it

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01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: look like the leaves that you would find in Madagascar

1305
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: that are dead or dying or changing color, and it

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01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 1: allows them to evade predators or to sneak up on

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01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 1: their insect prey. I'm just a harmless leave, don't worry

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01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: about it. It's fine. I'm just a dead leave. It's fine.

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01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: It has a last ditch maneuver where it can open

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01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: its mouth, and it has a bright red mouth that

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01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 1: I guess spooks predators, but it's also kind of like funny.

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01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: It's like a stoplight kind of like like as if

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01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 1: a predator is like, well, the light is red, so

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01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 1: I guess wait a minute, and then and then it's gone. Yeah, Yeah,

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01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: they're they're absolutely beautiful. Again, look up picture. I'll have

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01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 1: a picture linked in the show notes. But they are

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01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 1: they're they're like if if you told me to come

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01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: up with like a satanic dragon, I don't think I

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01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: could have come up with something that's cool. The like

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01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: it's funny that you bring up like lava and that

1321
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 1: it's very dragon esque, because like, did you did you

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01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: ever get around to saying frozen two? No? I want to,

1323
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 1: but I haven't seen it unfortunately, not to give too

1324
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: much away, but there's like a little fire salamander in it.

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01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: It's very cute and very adorable. When I think fire lizard, though,

1326
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: this is more what comes to mind, Like this is

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01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 1: so cool. It looks like the ball rog but a lizard,

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01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: a cute lizard. Yeah, you know, just like that that

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01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 1: tulkyn esque description of it being like living fire and smoke,

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01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 1: but in a little lizard body like geck body. It's

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01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 1: it's not really a fitting description, like looking at all

1332
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 1: the orange hues on it and everything like that, but

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01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: there's something about this this little lizard guy that makes

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01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: me keep thinking of the word obsidian. But that's that's

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01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 1: not like that's not an accurate it's not an accurate

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01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: descriptor of what it looks like, but that's the word

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01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:24,919
Speaker 1: that keeps coming to mind. But obsidian is volcanic glass,

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01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 1: so maybe you know it's like on its way to

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01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: become a obsidian. So cool. It really is cool. And

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01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 1: like other leaf tailed gecko species, it can actually bark

1341
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 1: and scream when threatened, So that's cool. Just imagine this

1342
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: thing screaming, screaming fire lizard that like can open its

1343
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: mouth and seemingly like emits red light. Yeah, so cool.

1344
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: I love it, Like, yeah, it's it's one of those

1345
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 1: things where it's like you can't make that up. That's

1346
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: so good. Yeah, Like I want to be I want

1347
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: to be like a Game of Thrones queen, but I'm

1348
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 1: just covered in geckas. Have so many of these geckos.

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01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: It's like can they fly and breathe fire? Well no,

1350
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 1: but they're cool, right, Like you hold it up in

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01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,759
Speaker 1: your hand and you're like Dracaras and it just opens

1352
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 1: its mouth and it's just got its little red tongue. Yeah,

1353
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: just eats eats a mosquito. It's like that mosquito defied me,

1354
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: and you're like, all my enemies will kneel before me

1355
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 1: that that little beetle would not bend the knee, and

1356
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 1: so I had to burn it well or like eat it.

1357
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 1: But anyways, are you not intimidated? Also, that beetle was

1358
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 1: Toad's evil, So like, I'm super cool and free of

1359
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: sinden because this this lizard did that on my behalf. Yeah, exactly,

1360
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 1: I'm into it. Man. I would say a better ending

1361
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 1: the Game of Thrones in my opinion, but hey, what

1362
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:12,799
Speaker 1: do I know? The bar was not high? Ah, well,

1363
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me today. I hope

1364
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 1: you learned a lot, maybe converted to Satanism. I don't know,

1365
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 1: not if that that was my goal or anything. But yeah,

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01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: this this is really fun. I love I love animals

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01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 1: that just go full spooky ah they like the world

1368
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: is magnificent and it's it's wonderful getting a chance to

1369
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 1: learn about, you know, creatures out there that you might

1370
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 1: not have like ever heard about before. And like I

1371
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 1: had never heard of this cool satan leaf tailed get

1372
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 1: go before today. And I had never heard of the

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01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 1: umbrella bird or or and really any of these things

1374
01:29:55,520 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: and so or the or the strawberries and cream bleeding

1375
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 1: tooth fungas or pigeon milk. It's just you know again,

1376
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: I've I've been staring at the inside of my apartment

1377
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,679
Speaker 1: for a long time now, and this is a nice

1378
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:15,839
Speaker 1: reminder that the world out there is wonderful and weird

1379
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: and beautiful in every way, full of beautiful animals and

1380
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: exploding trees, exploding trees that want to be spider man villains,

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01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 1: and um, you know, horrifying birds that stab their significant

1382
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 1: others in the head to feed their don't though that's slander.

1383
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: All they're doing, They're there's simply regurgitating bird milk, and

1384
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 1: that is, I think, a beautiful thing. It is like again,

1385
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 1: nature is weird and wonderful, and I think we should

1386
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: appreciate how weird and wonderful it is. I agree. Thank

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01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 1: you for joining me on this learning journey. Thank you

1388
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 1: for having me and for teaching me. I'm so uh

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01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: do you have anything a book? Um? Well, I'm Megan

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01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 1: Selina's again. You guys can follow me on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: Instagram at the manguin that's t G M E N

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Speaker 1: g U I N. I have a YouTube channel called

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Speaker 1: silver Screens or my roommate, and I talk about horror

1394
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 1: things and I have a Lost retrospective podcast called No

1395
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: Love Lost, where my co host Willing loves Lost and

1396
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 1: I don't, and we talk about it and is it

1397
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 1: lost Lost like the plane crash show? Right? Yeah, exactly. Uh,

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01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 1: Like I I was a fan of the show, and

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01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 1: then the show had its ending and I decided I

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01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 1: wasn't a fan anymore. The whole idea behind our podcast

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01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,679
Speaker 1: is that we're going back, Um, we have to go back.

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01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 1: We're going back to the beginning, and you know, just

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01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 1: kind of going through an episode by episode and the

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01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 1: we're what we're hoping to find out is if by

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01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 1: the end of the journey, by the and we get

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01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 1: back to the to the end of the series, if

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01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 1: I've managed to change his mind and convince him that

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01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 1: the show is actually terrible, or if he's actually managed

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01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 1: to convince me otherwise that it's actually good. So I see.

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01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 1: So that's sort of the thesis of our podcast of

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01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: like trying to look at a show from somebody else's perspective.

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01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:25,759
Speaker 1: What if you both just like concluded feeling like it's alright.

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01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 1: I guess that is a distinct possibity. It could be

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01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 1: by the time we get to the end of it

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01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 1: that we're both just like, yeah, it was okay, okay,

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01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 1: balances out. Um. And then I'm also a member of

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Speaker 1: Rooster Team Radio, where me and my co host talk

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01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,679
Speaker 1: about roost Teeth related shows. So go and check all

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Speaker 1: of those things out. I I tweet about all of them,

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01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 1: so uh yeah, go check those out and enjoy. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And you can find us on the internet at Creature

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Speaker 1: am at Katie Golden if you're interested in my Katie thoughts.

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Speaker 1: They're not necessarily podcast related. They're just all my ramblings,

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Speaker 1: all my Katie thoughts. Um. I'm also a pro Bird Writs,

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01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 1: where I put forth the idea that maybe we should

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01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 1: just let birds take over the world, you know, just

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01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 1: just once, just we'll try it. We'll try it and

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01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: see how it fits. And thank you guys so much

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Speaker 1: for listening. I know times are really tough right now,

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Speaker 1: so I am just always so I don't know, just

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Speaker 1: like so thankful you're choosing to listen to to my

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