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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebane, a space where no

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Speaker 1: question is off limits and storylines become lifelines. The views

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Speaker 1: shared by our guests are meant to inform, entertain, and empower.

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Speaker 1: From the laughs to the lessons. Just remember, tough times

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Speaker 1: don't last, but professional home girls do enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, y'all. So I am super excited about

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Speaker 2: this week's guest. This is gonna be obviously a different conversation,

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Speaker 2: more of a behind the scenes what one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite people to collaborate with. She is my graphic illustrator.

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Speaker 2: She is my soundboard when needed. She is a person

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Speaker 2: that tells me to take no clocket. She is the

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Speaker 2: person that tells me to take a break, go to sleep,

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Speaker 2: because sometimes I be up at the crack of dawn

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Speaker 2: trying to push things out. So I'm just so excited

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Speaker 2: to have you on here, Tip, how are you feeling.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited. Listen, it's been a week in Today's Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah right now, so been a long week. Well, listen,

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Speaker 2: Tip and I always talk, so I probably seen Tip well,

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Speaker 2: we had never met in person, but I probably seen

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Speaker 2: her like this over zoom or over doing our call.

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Speaker 2: How many times, like maybe like two or three times,

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Speaker 2: if that means I'm not saying less than five, definitely

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Speaker 2: less than five. Like, so, it's so nice to see

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Speaker 2: your pretty face. I'm always seeing you on pictures on Instagram. Also,

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Speaker 2: I say we see each other's stories. Yeah, we see

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Speaker 2: the escapades of Shenanigans. That's that's what we see the

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Speaker 2: most stuff. But never right, And how long have you

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Speaker 2: known each other? Girl? Before the was it during the pandemic?

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Speaker 2: Before it was during the pandemic?

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Speaker 1: Great?

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Speaker 2: Yes, because in the first bookstore I had shot out

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Speaker 2: to Bluestocking's bookstore in New York. I had a mask on. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because a couple of the illustrations in the book had masks.

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Speaker 2: Line yeah, Sowen. No, it was it had to be

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, since it dropped in twenty twenty. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the time, because I remember when I

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Speaker 2: got the first book. I posted on Instagram and I

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Speaker 2: was behind the candle with my coloring book and I

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Speaker 2: had my mask on. Wow, that's so crazy. All the

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Speaker 2: different world, a whole new world, my Disney. Right. So

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Speaker 2: do you remember how we met? No? I just know

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Speaker 2: you emailed me one time because you wanted covers for

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Speaker 2: the podcast episodes. And I don't even remember if I

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Speaker 2: asked how you found me Instagram or Juke. And that's

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Speaker 2: the thing. I'm like, was it through Instagram? Because I

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Speaker 2: at the time had my illustration page where I was

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Speaker 2: like posting like random illustrations that I do of like

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Speaker 2: things that I saw, and you know, I was just

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Speaker 2: letting things fly as a creative. I don't have that

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Speaker 2: like I just need to figure out my creative direction.

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Speaker 2: And but you found me before I archived everything I did. Now,

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Speaker 2: if my memory serves me right, I remember being on

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Speaker 2: Instagram because I wanted to do this coloring book, right,

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Speaker 2: And I think somebody a neutral person or maybe you

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Speaker 2: don't know this person, this girl, I know she was

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Speaker 2: just posting different graphic illustrators and I don't know what

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Speaker 2: it was about your work, you know I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: I can't think of her name. I do, yes, she

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Speaker 2: posted your work, and I think I reached out to you.

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Speaker 2: I'm very persistent. Job. If y'all didn't know, I think

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Speaker 2: I DM you and then I email you and that's

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Speaker 2: how we got connected. Yeah, I do remember, because there

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Speaker 2: been like where with me? I'eel like I'm a joy

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Speaker 2: I mean, but anybody, it's anybody like damn, I'm You're

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Speaker 2: You're not a bad client because you you listen. Though

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Speaker 2: there are clients that I have that do not listen

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Speaker 2: the middle, like you'll say you want something and I'll

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Speaker 2: say like, well what about this, like them collage pages

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Speaker 2: But you know, working with you has been really good

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Speaker 2: you just be having ideas. Yeah, I feel like I

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Speaker 2: come on, Tip, I know you can do it. We

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Speaker 2: like when you called me about the even this book,

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Speaker 2: I mean even when you call me about the first book, well,

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Speaker 2: to it. I was like, I want to create a

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Speaker 2: thought it was a really good because I am a

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Speaker 2: color I have coloring books, you know, I like the color.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, well, you know what, that's actually

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Speaker 2: I've never seen a coloring book like that back in

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Speaker 2: I always tell people, like you have to think outside

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Speaker 2: myself as an underdog. So when I have these coloring

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Speaker 2: like this is a really smart idea, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: seen it. I haven't seen anyone talk about it. I

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Speaker 2: It's so good. I mean, we're gonna talk about the

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Speaker 2: is you can really see the evolution between volume one

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Speaker 2: like I color and everything, but I'm not one of

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Speaker 2: it's kind of crazy to say, but I feel like

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Speaker 2: the coloring books are like a personal manifesto. Really, I do,

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Speaker 2: like I feel like I don't know, I feel like

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Speaker 2: wanted to showcase and highlight different career paths and the

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Speaker 2: learning how to pivot and trusting that what that process

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Speaker 2: I feel like you can, like it encourages you to

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Speaker 2: will would have never like obviously I wouldn't have pursued them,

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's like that That's what a personal

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Speaker 2: manifesto comes in that it's like a reminder as you're coloring,

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Speaker 2: that it is possible for you to achieve all your things,

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Speaker 2: all the things that your heart desires, whether it's career.

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Speaker 2: I mean normally the color and books Volume one, Volume

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Speaker 2: What's up, y'all, It's Shagirl ebn a here, and be

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Speaker 2: channel at the Professional Homegirl. Now let's get back to

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Speaker 2: the show. But one thing I want to touch on.

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Speaker 2: really or or I like the like the organized chaos

427
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: of it. Either the bag page. To tell her to

428
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: add more to that one. I was like more and

429
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 2: more listening. I was like, this is one page we

430
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 2: can only add, but so many things on here. But

431
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 2: it came out. It came because you gotta you gotta

432
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 2: overlap it. You gotta overlap it. You ate with that

433
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 2: over I think between that one and I don't know.

434
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 2: I like the I don't want to like say a

435
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 2: bunch of them, but I like the cowgirl also that

436
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 2: you ate with that one, like the cowgirl one. There's

437
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: a couple that I'm like, okay, like this is cute.

438
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 2: This is what's your favorite page? Because you like gassing

439
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: me on everyone. So I don't even know, Like I

440
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: can't even guess what your yo I show be telling

441
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: like this is fire, this is everything, every like what's

442
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 2: my favorite page? I definitely love the clocket page. So

443
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: I was telling top off Air and I think I

444
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: shared this with you all that I been into like

445
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: reading the Bible more so. I've been listening to the

446
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 2: Bible every night, and I wrote down some of my

447
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: favorite scriptures that when I wake up. I read it

448
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: every morning, or at least I try to, and I

449
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: incorporate that into the book. And it was just so

450
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 2: cool because I felt like we did such a great

451
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 2: job with combining you know, new school with old school,

452
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: and I, oh, yeah, most generation. Oh it's so it's

453
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: so so so far. I love that, love that page.

454
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 2: What's another page I love? I mean, all of them

455
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: are so dope. I love the flow Joe page. Huh.

456
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 2: I was like, there's so many, there's so many, so many.

457
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 2: I love the flow Joe page. I think that was fire. Ooh,

458
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: that was fire, fire, fire, fire? What else? I feel

459
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 2: like all of them. I think every single page means

460
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 2: something different to me. I think what I most, what

461
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 2: I love most is just like you said, a dialogue.

462
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 2: I think the dialogue just hits when you read it.

463
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 2: And like even with the police officer page when she's

464
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 2: talking about how what she want to be remembered by,

465
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: or even with the calgirl page. You know, I thought

466
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 2: it would be funny to to incorporate you know, they

467
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: have lineage of horses and where they come from. But

468
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: you can't. You need to tell me, you don't know

469
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: what we had any black cowboys, Like that's crazy. And

470
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 2: I love the Barbie page. And I love the bar

471
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: page so much because I love how we were able

472
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 2: to use a part of the dialogue and correlate the

473
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: history of black Barbie to black womanhood. Oh so good.

474
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: I think the quotes. I think the quotes in this

475
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: one definitely make it dope that you have those excerpts

476
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: on the side for people to see. The quotes so good.

477
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 2: I also like how it corresponds like and I did it, duh.

478
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 2: But I like how it corresponds to like the main page,

479
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: like we made sure we continued out like through some

480
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 2: little pageants in there. I think it ended up really well,

481
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 2: Like it's laid out really well, even the order it is.

482
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 2: And I love the pivot page. Love, love, love the pivot.

483
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: Pivot that done it And it's not even done, y'all.

484
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: But I think I love it so much because I

485
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: think a lot of times that we are so afraid

486
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: to pivot and to try something new. And if you

487
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 2: listen to my the first episode of this season, I

488
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: was really struggling before season three came out to a

489
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: point where I really wanted to, like, you know what,

490
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: this may not be it for me so to be

491
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 2: able to pivot and just like you know what, let

492
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 2: me just surrender and just trust the process and to

493
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: see all the many great things that have came from

494
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: just that one. Yes, was like, oh, I can't wait

495
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: for y'all to see the page next. So but it's

496
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: so fire. It's like listen at least you know, I'm excited,

497
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: Like I'm excited about this shit. Look, that's all that matters.

498
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: That's all. The one thing you don't want someone to

499
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: do is fake the bunk, especially if you're like working

500
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: with them on things that are like being produced, Like

501
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: you don't ever want you know, I'm not making it.

502
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: I know you're not, but you don't ever want. Like

503
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: imagine doing a collab with somebody and they're like, yeah,

504
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: this is so dope, and then later you find out

505
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: like they was like yeah, straight, yeah, you imagine, and

506
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: but it's been out to the public and they're like, yeah,

507
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: it's cool, Like I couldn't do anything else, Like but

508
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 2: you legit aro out here like yeah not like this

509
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: gas like I love it, Like it's amazing, Like you

510
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: legit will stand like an all caps yeah or email

511
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: or call and be like literally sometimes the call is

512
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: like seven seconds. You'd be like, I'm gonna let you

513
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: go because it's late, but I just gotta let you know.

514
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 2: And the fucking fire I'll be twenty two seconds long

515
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: and I'll be like, I'm talking to youmorrow, and that's

516
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: my tip. Tell me so monotone, y'all. Like I'd be

517
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: on a thousand tip, be on a calm twenty like

518
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: all right, I'd be like yeah, yeah, even last and

519
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, this is I just wanted it

520
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: was lit. Like I'd be laughing in these text messages

521
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: of my little gifts, like even when I asked y'all,

522
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: was like, ye have what kind of fruit? And you

523
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: was like type of fruit is whit girl? Okay? So

524
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: speaking of that, So in this coloring book, we also

525
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: have ads, which was fire. I told about this simple

526
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: was like, yo, like how did you come up with this?

527
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: So I selected certain people or certain entrepreneurs to be

528
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: a part of this, and I wanted to be very

529
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: selective because I wanted to support these women and I

530
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: truly believe in what they do, and so we're gonna

531
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 2: also have them on the show they talk about their business.

532
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 2: But we have of course Lisan Basciat talking about her podcast,

533
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: Shaping Freedom podcast which I was also a guest on,

534
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: and it's absolutely amazing. And how dope is that they

535
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: have involved in the coloring book, right, so what is

536
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: like stop plays? And then also we have my homegirl.

537
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: She has been with me since day one. She is

538
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 2: like the epitome of the professional homegirls, Zena where her

539
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: business which is called doing the Most well Yeah, do

540
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: the most Wellness, which I loved, Yeah, right, doing the

541
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: most Wellness. So, and then we also have one of

542
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: my close friends. She is also a part of the

543
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: as called Pint Size Faith. So we it's so cool

544
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: how we was able to incorporate these different elements into

545
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: this coloring. But that's something it just doesn't feel like

546
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 2: a coloring book anymore. Like I feel like this is

547
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 2: something that you can go to till you can't go

548
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: to it no more. It'll last. Oh it's gonna last

549
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: you for a minute. Now it'll last. Like there's definitely

550
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: the ad thing. I remember you called me and you

551
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: were just like, yeah, what do you think about me

552
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: having ads in here? And I was like, well, I

553
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 2: was like that makes sense. I was like, well, how

554
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: do you I was like, we're gonna illustrate a page

555
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: for them, Like how do we want to do it?

556
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: So like yeah, you were like, I mean it makes

557
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: sense right, like I can get them to send over information.

558
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 2: And I said, sure, but we can do it. So

559
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: let's see get in here. And we got them in

560
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: here and they turned out. I thought they were really great.

561
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: I love so good, but I love them. But again

562
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: that was when do you see an ad in the

563
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: coloring book? I know it's and then these are women

564
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: who have amazing businesses. And she's earlier when you mentioned

565
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: she was talking about the fruit, so you know, being

566
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: a nutritionist, a wellness coach, all of these great things.

567
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: You know, we sent over her ad for us for

568
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: her to just approve it, and you know me, I'm like,

569
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: we need to fill up the walls. We need to

570
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: add something. So I was like, you know, what do

571
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: you feel about us? We do not like white space.

572
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: I don't like like I wouldn't be surprised if, like

573
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: in your Forever Home you are an Afro maximalist. Yeah,

574
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: like three single space filled because if there was white space,

575
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: you'd be like, tip, I think we need to I

576
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: think we need to fill something up in here and

577
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, nope, we don't. I'm telling you, I do

578
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: not like space. And so I was telling her, I

579
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: was like, we need to add some fruit on the wall.

580
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: And then it was like, oh I love that idea. Yes,

581
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: And I'm like, tell what have you? That wasn't even her.

582
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: I'm thinking this came from her. People like I'm like,

583
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: can you say, like, can you ask her for specific

584
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: She was like, what's hyper fruit? I'm like, I don't

585
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: know till what niggas like grapes? Strawberry girl, I'm like,

586
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: not what niggas like, like what are you? I'm like,

587
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: niggas like arawbery, you know, bananas? Right. I was like,

588
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: but it's it's so good job, Oh my god? But

589
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: what would you say? Has been the most challenging when

590
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: it comes to creating Volume three because I feel like

591
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: with Volume three three and also be talking about Volume

592
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: four later on, but with them being the most intricate,

593
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: uh color and books that we have created, what's the

594
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: biggest challenge for you? The same thing that's always a

595
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: challenge reference referencing, finding like an image or multiple that

596
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: depict like what I see. Because you'll say something and

597
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: I'll go, okay, like in my head, I can see

598
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: what I want this to look like in my mind.

599
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: Exist listen November Christmas music starts. I can't wait even

600
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: now in the days, like I will see it in

601
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: my head, but I need to like see a kick

602
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: sure of like the positioning because sometimes I'm like, okay,

603
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: well I want like the black cowgirl page. Like in

604
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: my head, I was like, okay, I want a woman

605
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: that pages with a horse, and I'm like, but like,

606
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: do I want her holding the horse? Do I want

607
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: her beside the horse? I was like, don't want her

608
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: riding the horse. I'm like, no, I want her beside

609
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 2: the horse, and so like I found a separate image

610
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: of a woman with a horse, but I was like,

611
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: I don't want her face turned that way. So then

612
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: I had to find a separate picture of like the

613
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: face angle that I was wanted was like m I

614
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: was like, but I don't like the hat that she

615
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: got on. So then I had to find a picture

616
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: of the hat. But I like specifically wanted so I

617
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: could like cause I'm I'm collaging everything, like I'm grabbing

618
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: reference pictures and I'm just taking a little bit from

619
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: each of them, and then I'm putting them all together

620
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: and then I'm tweaking the lines to like make sure

621
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: that it flows like how I wanted to flow, Like, Oh,

622
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: I want her to have a braid, but I'm like, dang,

623
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: I can't, like, let me find a braid that I

624
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: really but I want a black girl braid, like I

625
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: want a thick braid right right, like trying to find

626
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: like a reference image of like who had a braid?

627
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if you did. I changed the policewoman page.

628
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: She got a short haircut that's halle Berry like a

629
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: reference image, and was like, who has it? I was like,

630
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: I was like nineties. I like searched like nineties black

631
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: hair and was like short haircuts coming back. I'm like,

632
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: who had great? I was like halle Berry and I

633
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: found an image like halle Berry. I was like, this

634
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: is how I want the hair to look like. So

635
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: it's just the beauty of it. Oh God, I'm telling you,

636
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: and I think that those little details I'm telling you

637
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: like I cannot one day, hopefully you will be able

638
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: to meet in person, and then you can also just

639
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: come to an event with me so you can just

640
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: see the reactions I received, because sometimes it's just like overwhelming.

641
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: Like when I tell you when I did that event

642
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: and my class was completely fulled, I was like, oh shit,

643
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: I gotta wait this, but I'll just side. I was prepared,

644
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: but it was just like I was not expecting those

645
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: type of emotions. Like people were very emotional because people

646
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: have never seen like I think in the first Color

647
00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: Room Book, we had a girl sitilling on the poor

648
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: and she has some money in her hand yep, Like

649
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: it's just like, where are you seeing pictures like that?

650
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: It's like, this is representation of what I grew up

651
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: with women that you probably saw and the women who

652
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: we are who we would like to become. So I

653
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: think that the fact that you care about the details

654
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: of a black girl, a black hair bray or the

655
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: halle Berry cut, things of that nature, that I think

656
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: that's what really sets this coloring book apart from the rest. Yeah,

657
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: we really have to try, like I know, uh, coloring

658
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: books or you know they're universal, Yeah, but you're literally

659
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: a black woman with a our fro. It's like, come on, now,

660
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: black women out here with these black women coming on

661
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: your show, like then that is like the Devin we

662
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: want people to be seen in this coloring book, like

663
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: we want them to see like images of themselves where

664
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: like people they know or who they could be. And

665
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: you know, I think that's like the best thing about

666
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: being able to illustrate this and find those reference in

667
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: image that everybody like the page one of the activity

668
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: pages where we have like the pop culture references, like

669
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: you won't be able to look at that and be

670
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: like my mom said that, like I know, like it's

671
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: for the culture, so it's comforting like in that way,

672
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 2: I know what Nigga made this book because it's so black,

673
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 2: Like I love it. I was like some of these quotes.

674
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: I was like, let me find some quotes. I was like,

675
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: what I feel be saying out here? What a girls

676
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: are saying on TikTok. Let me find let me find

677
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: some things that people talk about. And you was like,

678
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: oh yeah, add this, add this. I'm like, okay, Ben,

679
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna add this in. But you, like you don't

680
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: know that it was for us, by us, which is great.

681
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 2: I love that. Have I ever gave you an idea

682
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: that she was like, girl, this ain't it because I

683
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 2: feel like one thing about you and one thing about

684
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: us when we were working together. I feel like we

685
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: both handle feedback really well. I don't know if you've

686
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: ever given me an idea where I was like, ugh,

687
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: like this ain't it because we always like you'll give

688
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: an idea and I'll just like turn it. Like you

689
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 2: have a Rubik's clue cube in the side side you're

690
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: looking at it's white, the side I'm looking at its green,

691
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: and then I can turn it and we both looking

692
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: at blue. Then we kind of like that's kind of

693
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: like how we end up working. Like you'll say something,

694
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: I say something, and then we kind of ping pong

695
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: off of each other and end up bringing it back.

696
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: So there's never like an idea that you've given me

697
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 2: where I've been like nah, like this is wage. I

698
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 2: don't think there's ever been like a situation that that's happened,

699
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: because again, like you take good feed like, you take

700
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: feedback really well, and if I say something like I

701
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: don't like or I'm just like, oh, let's like do

702
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: it this way, You're usually like, oh, yeah, like let's

703
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 2: try that, and it ends up like coming together from

704
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 2: what we both said, so good, You're yeah, I ain't

705
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: never have the How do you stay motivate? When you're

706
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: doing like lung projects. Cause I think like last name,

707
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: when we was on the phone, I was like, oh, tell,

708
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 2: I'm tired of this shit. Like I was so tired,

709
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: and then were about to start up with volume three.

710
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: I was just I mean volume four, I'm like, I'm like,

711
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: You're not tired looking at this shit? How do I

712
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: stay motivated? Truthfully, I don't. There be times and it's

713
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: fact like there are just times when you know you

714
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: just need to get something done right, Like we get

715
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: to a point it's just like before you went on

716
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: your trip to Pati. Yes, Like it's like you were

717
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: just like, yo, I'm at a point where I just

718
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: feel like this, and I was like, fair like because

719
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: I too. I feel like both was in the same boat. Yeah,

720
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 2: but you feel like you just need to step away

721
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: from something for a little bit and then come back

722
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: to it with fresh eyes. And so like we've been

723
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: working and honestly, we haven't been working on this book long,

724
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: Like we've been working on the book long, but we

725
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 2: haven't been working on the book long. Like this started

726
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the end of July, beginning of August,

727
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: so like this has only been a month, but I

728
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: think because of the amount of detail that's in here,

729
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: Like that's where we've kind of been draining, like going

730
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: back and forth with pingpo on you because you have

731
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: that think tank and we're virtual and so the only

732
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: like way we're communicating with through text message and through

733
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 2: email and then like an occasional phone call. So people

734
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 2: don't want to be on the phone all day. People

735
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 2: don't want to be texting all day. You don't want

736
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: to email all day. So when we're going back and forth,

737
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's where it comes in that we're a

738
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: little drained because we're like boom boom boom, boom boom,

739
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: because this is multiple times out the week that we're

740
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: having conversations, and I feel like we talk every day.

741
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: When we in color Coloring book mode, we are talking

742
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: texting every day all day. In the morning, you'd be like, ooo, child,

743
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: my god, today I'm up like I'm fling like this,

744
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 2: and I'd be like bad. Sometimes I don't even respond

745
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: until later, like a I'm sending you pages or just

746
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: emailed you, and then I'll send you something and you'd

747
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, well I'm gonna send you something in

748
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: the morning. Like the motivation. It comes and goes. But

749
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: I think that's also just like being a creative, Like

750
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: in that space as a creative, there are a lot

751
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: of times when I just know I just have to

752
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: do it because I need to get it done. But

753
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: that's like any like everybody don't like going to their

754
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: job every morning, But what is it? Wake up? Get

755
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: this bread? Like yeah, So I think that's where it

756
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: comes in, Like I just know I gotta I know,

757
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: I gotta do it, and I know it's gonna be

758
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: like fruitful. I know, like the end result. Because I've

759
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 2: told my brother about this color and book fifty times.

760
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: What did you tell them? Like, Oh, I've still I've

761
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: showed them pages like we be on our sibling like

762
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: video chat and sometimes like I'll be like, okay, so

763
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: this is this page like and I'll be like scrolling

764
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: slowly through it like here's my phone, like all right,

765
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: so this is this like this And what did they say? Was?

766
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: What was their feedback? One? Like He's just like you've

767
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: been really working like on this book and I'm just

768
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: like yeah, man, like I'm trying to get it. He

769
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: was like, oh, that's actually fire, Like this book is

770
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: so fire? Are y'all. I know I keep saying this,

771
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: but hands down, you mean it. I mean it. I

772
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: mean it. But I think that's the beauty of having

773
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: somebody like you to work with, because I feel like

774
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 2: during that time before season three K, we both were

775
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 2: just like we was, we was done. But I feel

776
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: like one of us always have enough. We always have

777
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: enough motivation in the size of a mustard seed to

778
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: motivate the other to keep going, because I feel like

779
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 2: we take turns, like we're always having the same emotion,

780
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: but it's never to a point where we both like

781
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: we tapping out. Because I remember I was like, damn,

782
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to make this book in time.

783
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 2: And yep, and girl, I take Tip at like four

784
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning. Was early. You was like, She's like,

785
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: be honest, now, like like I'm getting worried, and I just,

786
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: you know, I just feel like and I was like,

787
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm not worried. Listen. She was not worried. And my girl, Tip,

788
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: I'm telling y'all. She pushed. She gave me like, what

789
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: eight drawings, eight illustrations. I was like something like that.

790
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,479
Speaker 2: I was like, listen, I've been working. I haven't been working,

791
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: But I've been working, I've been seeing it. I was like,

792
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: so since you asked about motivation for me, like, because

793
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 2: you were also in that slump, like and I look

794
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: just like yesterday you were like, I'm tired, So like,

795
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: what what makes you keep going? I think what makes

796
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: me keep going is so when I have these ideas

797
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: and I have these like things that I want to

798
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: accomplish in my mind, the way it works, it's already done,

799
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: so I can already see the finished product, right, But

800
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: for me, I'm trying to catch up to the finished product.

801
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: So I think that what keeps me going because everything

802
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 2: that we're doing I already visualize, like I can see,

803
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: and I think that's the beauty. I'm so thankful to

804
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: have somebody that can also see my vision because a

805
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 2: lot of people just can't see it. And I think

806
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: that you do such a great job with just taking

807
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: everything out of my brain because sometimes it just be

808
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 2: so chaotic, and you just put it in the book

809
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: and it's just so beautiful. And I think when we

810
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: get to the end result and then when we see

811
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: people reactions like I know what this book is gonna

812
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: do to people, Like I know what this book is

813
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: going to do because I didn't have anything like this

814
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: when I was growing up. And the only thing that

815
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: I can reference is I cannot remember this book for

816
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 2: the life of me. But when I was a young

817
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: a teenager or maybe a preteen, I had this book

818
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: that was teaching me about periods because I was about

819
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: to start my period and I was going through puberty.

820
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 2: But this book was so and if I see this book,

821
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: I probably started crying because this book was so good.

822
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: Like it was interactively, Yes, it was interactive. It was

823
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: like informative. It told me a lot about puberty and

824
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: going through my journey with my cycle, and that's what

825
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 2: I want this book to be. And I just feel

826
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 2: like what we were creating is just it's so freaking dope.

827
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: And I feel like I love volume one, Volume two

828
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 2: because I think we was able to create this beautiful foundation.

829
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: But Volume three and four is going it's gonna take over.

830
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: I know it is. And then we you know, we're

831
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 2: working on the coloring books for which should be up

832
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: really soon. You know, we have so many people that

833
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: are supporting us. We're already in ten bookstories. So the

834
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: goal is to get into more bookstores and do more,

835
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: you know, meet and Greece and stuff. But I just

836
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: think that us working together and like even hearing you

837
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: get excited about certain things and your feedback and stuff, Like,

838
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: I think that's what keeps me motivated because I know

839
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: what the bigger picture is because I've already seen it.

840
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: Love the bigger picture. Yeah, like it's bigger than us,

841
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: Like I just don't think that. Like I'm telling you,

842
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: all it takes is one little girl to see this

843
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: and we have changed the trajectory of her life. And

844
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: I really do believe that this is what this book

845
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: is about. Like we have so many different women stories

846
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: that are being highlighted, from freaking flow Joe Yes to

847
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: moking stuff to see thus world, Like we have so

848
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 2: many not even just people who we know, but just

849
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 2: the police officers that are doing their job and doing

850
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: the right thing, or even therapists that we're highlighting. Like

851
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: it's just so freaking who I would have never thought

852
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: that I would make it be in a podcaster. Yeah.

853
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: I also think like this book, especially for the younger

854
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: like kids who end up buying it, I also think

855
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: this is a great time like for them to get

856
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 2: exposure to Yes because see this world they weren't born,

857
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 2: they wasn't but who whatever thought that. I mean, see,

858
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: the world was way beyond, way ahead of his time.

859
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: And look at Ai. Now yeah, I'll say that was

860
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: in the early two thousands. Like hypnotherapy, Like people are

861
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: not talking about hypnotherapy like at all. Like I mean,

862
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: I you know, I love alternative you know ways of

863
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: you know, healing and all these things. Like I think

864
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: that's definitely a great way for them to get exposure

865
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: to these things, whether it be a new career path

866
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: with like thean or seeing like an entrepreneur that's literally

867
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: their age running a whole facility. Like, I think that's

868
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 2: just a great way for them to get exposure to

869
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: these means, and especially since you know, we kind of

870
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: dund it down a little mild for this one for

871
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: their parents, you know, Rady Well pg. Thirteen. So I

872
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: think that'll definitely be good for them to listen to

873
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: these stories and then also be like I never heard

874
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: this name before, let me google it. Yes, and that's

875
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: to be Oh, that's so dope, because I feel like,

876
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: like you said, we're introducing something that was part of

877
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: our generation. Well I'm a little bit older than you,

878
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: but a part of my generation to a new generation,

879
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: and hopefully we can expire and spark some type of

880
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 2: creativity for them to pursue something similar on their own path.

881
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 2: So I think that is so freaking dope. Yeah, ma'am.

882
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: So what do you huh? Raising the kids? Them? Raising

883
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: these kids shout and these niggas. So what do you

884
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: hope read this experience or feel when they color your work?

885
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: You can't raise a man ky Michelle said it. What

886
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: do I want them to experience? Like? What do you

887
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: feel like we're leaving on the world? What's our remark

888
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: with these the professional homegirir coloring books. I just hope

889
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: people enjoy. Like I'm an artist sensitive about my mean stuff,

890
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 2: and I think, you know, a lot of times I'll

891
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 2: be coming off like hard, like yaw, she's making this

892
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: like I don't really care, but I do want people

893
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: to enjoy it. It does give me joy when people

894
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: are like, oh yeah, like I love that that was fire,

895
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: Like this was great, Like you did a really good job.

896
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: I can't believe. Like I like those reactions that you're

897
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 2: saying that you get, like from those people who look

898
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: at it, like I like hearing that that's great because

899
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 2: I again, I was like, it's just a tattoo, like

900
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: I just put this on on her arm, and she

901
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: was just like, I'm like, ad the tattoo, Tip, I'm

902
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: telling you. I'm like in my head, I'm like, it's

903
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 2: not that deep. It's not that deep. But to hear

904
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: like someone's like, yeah, I love that. Girl was crying. Girl,

905
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: she worked girl. So she opened up the floodgates because

906
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 2: everybody started telling their stories. I'm like, I told Tip,

907
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: I told Tip, Yeah, why we have the back and forth.

908
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: But Lee, I want to feel some kind of like

909
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: I want them to feel no joy, Like coloring is

910
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,479
Speaker 2: here to induce joy, relieve stress. Like I want them

911
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: whatever their intended goal is for coloring, like I want

912
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 2: them to achieve that, like whether it's a stress reliever,

913
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: whether it's they just need a time to themselves on

914
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: their lunch break, like I want them to achieve that,

915
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: like whatever it is that they set out to do.

916
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: So I hope like it friends people joy. I hope

917
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: it was a this hard work. It was I don't

918
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: cry to create these things. So like that's literally me

919
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: in front of my computer for hours, like clicking and

920
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: moving and looking up imagery. So I hope hard work. Yeah,

921
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: I'm hoping like for me doing that they feel, you know,

922
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: that comfort that they're they're looking for when they're opening

923
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: the coloring book and pulling out their pencils. Yes, so

924
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 2: let's talk about volume four. So Volume four is going

925
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: to be why because we gonna see how they're We're

926
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: gonna see how it turns out. Yeah. So volume four

927
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: is the rated R version, the not safer work version

928
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 2: of volume three. So I'm super excited about this because

929
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 2: I feel like we can really get risky, get spicy.

930
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: We can put a bunch of nonsense in there, a

931
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 2: bunch of penises. It could really go left. We could

932
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: really go left because it is and w like. And

933
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: that's the thing, Like we haven't really talked about it

934
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: in depth because we've been working on three. Like we

935
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 2: have the episodes listed that we're adding in, but we

936
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 2: haven't like talked about because usually when we start a book,

937
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 2: you give me the episodes and I say, hey, you

938
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: have any ideas for how these pages want to look? Like?

939
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 2: Let me know. We haven't gotten to there yet. Yeah,

940
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're going to send me? YEA,

941
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 2: what you want something that looked like, So that's that's

942
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: the part that will be interesting. Yeah, And just to

943
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: touch on the process of how we get to a

944
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: point where we're like, now we're talking. We collaborate non

945
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 2: stop and text and all this other stuff. So before

946
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: I get the tip, I depending on what the theme is,

947
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: and I want to say, for the most part, this

948
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 2: is the first time that we ever did a theme

949
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: where we're highlighting professional women and entrepreneurs. So what I

950
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: do is I go through my catalog all of my

951
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: episodes from Pretty Private with Ebna. I was going to say,

952
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: a professional homegirl podcast. Right, it's so good, brand baby,

953
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: give up about the reband regular? Yeah, like you that rebrand.

954
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: I was like, what's this and you were like yeah girl.

955
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, Billboard, I was like, this is nice.

956
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: Listen when I tell you the good Lord gave it

957
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: to me. He was like, huh girl, damn yeah, look

958
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 2: that is that is the ultimate glow up. That name.

959
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: Oh thank you, it's so good. It is very good.

960
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: How did you come? What happened? You slept? Did you

961
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: wake up one morning? So I'm really good with names, right,

962
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 2: but I go through this whole thought process. So I'm

963
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: just like I'm asking. I'm like, God, give me something, like,

964
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 2: I need something that's good. I need something nobody has, yes,

965
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: and we are in the process. Again, it is being trademark,

966
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: so you can't take it. But but yeah, I'm just like, what, like,

967
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: I need something that's gonna be able to encompass what

968
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: the show is about, because I feel like one of

969
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 2: the main reason why I was struggling so much because

970
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: everybody was calling the Professional Homegirl. Everybody loved the name,

971
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 2: but I feel like the Professional Homegirl it just grew

972
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: like now we got niggas on the show, we got

973
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: spooky series, like, we got so many different things. And

974
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: even though who we are as a community is Professional

975
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: home Girls, I don't think that that we upgrew the

976
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: name pretty much. So I'm just like, I need something,

977
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: but it needs to be something good, Like it need

978
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: to be something when you read it, it's like, oh shit,

979
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 2: like what this about whatever? And so I just meditated

980
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 2: on it and when my y'all just give y'all some

981
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: tea behind the scenes, uh, you know, in order for

982
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: me to get this support from my network, I literally

983
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: had like a tight deadline. I think I had like

984
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: a week to come up with this, right, And I

985
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: was really freaking out because I was like a week, Like,

986
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: but if I wanted to get the push and be

987
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: on everybody rail stations, I had to come up with

988
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: a name. And so I don't know, Like I sit

989
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: and then I just think of different words, like different

990
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: words will come to me and like and this is

991
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: what happened with Professional Homegirl. And then I write stuff

992
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 2: down and then I'm like, what is something that people

993
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: say that you know that they will normally stay when

994
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 2: they key can whatever. And then it just came to me.

995
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: They was like it was like pretty private, and I

996
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 2: was like, oh shit. I was like, niggas still say

997
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: pretty private. And then I started using the system. I'm like,

998
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: oh yeah, cause then some people say I'm pretty open whatever,

999
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: hence the pretty open seres read. And then next thing,

1000
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: you know, I started seeing pretty private everywhere and I

1001
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 2: was like, come on, God, yes, because how God talks

1002
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 2: to me is in repetition. So I was just like yes,

1003
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: and then that's how I came up with it. Nobody

1004
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: has his name pretty private with epinay, so yeah, because

1005
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: I'm a pretty private person, you know, yes, right, It's

1006
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 2: so good. So it works. It works. So with that

1007
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 2: being said, I go through the catalog and I just

1008
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: like write out all the episodes that match with the themes.

1009
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 2: So I did all the episodes and then also parents,

1010
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: if your child hears something, well a little hurst word

1011
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: here and there, my apologies. I really try to keep

1012
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: it PG. Thirteen. But then and then also once I

1013
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: have all my episodes and I hit started communication up

1014
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 2: with tell like, hey, this is what I'm thinking about.

1015
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 2: Which ones do you think we should go towards. Obviously

1016
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: I went with a lot of of my episodes that

1017
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 2: were from my within my partnership because the quality was better,

1018
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: the conversations got better. I feel like I really evolved

1019
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: as a you know, a conversationalist. And then we go

1020
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: from there and then we just start streamlining and fine

1021
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: tuning everything and then we start the illustration. So yeah,

1022
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: so volume four, you know, it's going to be the

1023
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: Not Safe Work Edition, and I'm super excited about that,

1024
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: and we're gonna be inclusive of all types of jobs

1025
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: and I just cannot wait for you to see what

1026
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: we have in store all types of jobs. Yeah, let's

1027
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: dive on that sheet. If I recall again, I can't

1028
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: imagine what you're gonna be, like, hey girl, do dos

1029
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 2: everywhere with this lady on the bed sitting backwards. I

1030
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: can because in the first one we did have a

1031
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: sex worker, but it was PG. Though I was about

1032
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: to say it was tame, like she like was on

1033
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 2: the bed or she was doing like a video. She's

1034
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: like virtually, yeah, you was like had her bronze trapped down.

1035
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: There's like what cream on the bed. Like it wasn't

1036
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 2: even we believe in safe sex. Yeah, like it wasn't

1037
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: any right, It wasn't even anything crazy. But now I

1038
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: feel like you're gonna be like half the titty out,

1039
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: like you're going to tell me, and I'm gonna be like,

1040
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: I feel like Till is going to be so stressed

1041
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: when me come volume four and remind y'all volume four

1042
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: what so you can pre order volume three now. Volum

1043
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: three is gonna ship out in September, but Volume four

1044
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: is gonna literally be ready within the end of September,

1045
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: and I feel like Tip is going to be so

1046
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 2: stressed me because I'm like, yo, give me some give

1047
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 2: me a little nipple action or something like come on, Tip,

1048
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: like my girl, like what do you want. I just

1049
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 2: feel like this is just going to be so outrageous,

1050
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: Like I already know this email that you say with

1051
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 2: these ideas, I'm gonna be looking at that question where

1052
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: you ask is like is there any idea that you

1053
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: ever turned down and be like no, I'm like this

1054
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 2: email and I'm be like, so this is what she

1055
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: wants me to do. Like but we balanced each other out,

1056
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 2: we do cause I'm like so extreme, I'm like I

1057
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 2: want this. It'll be like, okay, let's dial it back.

1058
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 2: This is what we can do, Like yeah, let's let's

1059
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: let's think this out. And I just know I know

1060
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: someone's gonna be holding their titties in this book. I know.

1061
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 2: It was so funny because in one of the illustrations,

1062
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, show some titty, like give I look at

1063
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: little deep cut or something. You legit you was like, yeah,

1064
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: give her like something like it was clean. I remember, yeah,

1065
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 2: because that was she had on a corset, a corset

1066
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 2: with a Jesus feed like a Cuban necklace. Like I

1067
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: was like, girl, hold on. Or the girl that was

1068
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 2: in a wheelchair, she on some high heels or something.

1069
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 2: I feel like it's on strappy heels. I was like, Okay,

1070
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 2: I get it, like fair, I understand, but so I'm

1071
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 2: very interested to see like your ideas for this book. Yeah,

1072
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 2: it's gonna be so good, y'all. I'm like, do you

1073
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 2: have any questions from me? Sis? I call her boss.

1074
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, as I say, yeah, I don't know

1075
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 2: any because we talked so we talk so much here

1076
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: that I don't even know, Like, so do you have

1077
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: any the one question do you have anything after book four?

1078
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 2: Like how far is this series gonna go? I don't know.

1079
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: I mean as far as we can take it. I mean,

1080
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: I'm definitely excited about the color and book tour. You know.

1081
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 2: I think that by me doing a Mental Wealth Expo,

1082
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: a Charlamagne's event that he does every year and it's free,

1083
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: you can definitely come out of support and hopefully I'll

1084
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 2: be back this year. But I didn't know that it

1085
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 2: was like you can do like different things with it,

1086
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: like a workshop and like having people color and like

1087
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: I won't give too much away because I am going

1088
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 2: on a tour, but I'm just super excited to connect

1089
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: with people and to encourage like just relax and let's

1090
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: have some type of connection and let's just keep key

1091
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: and have a good time, because I do think that,

1092
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 2: you know, our lives are not in vain, and I

1093
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: think that's the beauty of pretty private with Ebanay is

1094
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: you know, these are storylines that are really becoming people lifelines.

1095
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: And I think that when you have uh these spaces

1096
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 2: and then it also ties back into your childhood and

1097
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 2: like it's just so many different things that's going on

1098
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: at once. So I'm definitely looking forward to this tour.

1099
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 2: We just got booked for our first location and best

1100
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 2: Side Star. I'll be sharing that really soon. And then

1101
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 2: we got some locations going on within the different bookstores

1102
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: back at home in Memphis and Nashville. Hopefully I'll be

1103
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 2: in Miami. Hopefully i'd be wed tip ads so we

1104
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 2: can come out and she can come out and I

1105
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 2: can introduce her to come out. So yes, but I'm

1106
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: just really excited about what the future holds. But I

1107
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: don't think that I think we gonna keep going until

1108
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: we can go no more. And I think that we

1109
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: get bigger and bigger. I'll say, at some point, you're

1110
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 2: gonna have to at least a digital version that people

1111
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: can do on the iPads and stuff. Yeah, right, right, Well,

1112
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this is something I've been working

1113
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: on for many years. It's creating up the Professional Homegirl app.

1114
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 2: And within the app, it'll have the digital current pages

1115
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: you or the Professional Homegirl Activity book, which yeah, what

1116
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: a little activity book now? Rights like when we was

1117
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 2: kids and you get the little activity books and you

1118
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: like fill in the blank and like the crosswords and

1119
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: all that. Or maybe just the coloring book digitalized like

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00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: you said, Oh, that's actually a good idea. You would

1121
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: love the color digitally. I don't, I know, but there

1122
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: is a marketplace for that. Yeah, I still need to

1123
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: hold a pencil or those stupid expensive markers that I bought. Yeah,

1124
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: and I think this goes back to like just thinking

1125
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: outside the box, like who I mean, granted I have

1126
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: the podcast, but who would have ever thought that? Now?

1127
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: And then an extension of the podcast is a coloring book.

1128
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. So I'm just excited, my little brain baby.

1129
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 2: Come on now, I guarantee for Book four you're gonna

1130
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 2: send another twist in turn. No, I actually have a

1131
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: really buyer idea, but I'm gonna tell you off the air.

1132
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 2: It's I'm like Book four, it's actually so cool, but

1133
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: I have to figure I'm gonna do it. So yeah,

1134
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: but Tip, I'm just so thankful for you. I just

1135
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 2: I always give you praises, but you have been such

1136
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 2: a joy to work with. We've been doing this for

1137
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: since twenty nineteen, and this has been one of my

1138
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,479
Speaker 2: favorite relationships I've ever been in. So I just can't

1139
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: thank you enough. I'm just so grateful, and I'm just

1140
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: so thankful that God has allowed me to meet somebody

1141
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: that can just take what's in my mind and put

1142
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 2: it out on paper so beautifully. So thank you so much,

1143
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: sus I really appreciate you, no problem. I'm glad you

1144
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: found me. Me too, Me too. He realized I should

1145
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 2: properly start back up my illustration page. Yes, you should

1146
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: should be somebody else needs me because I could be

1147
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: blocking a blessing. But you know, here we are. We've

1148
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: connected and who knew like four years later, five years later,

1149
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: whatever this is like, that we would still be doing

1150
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: this starting off from podcast covers like, Yeah, definitely come

1151
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: a long way, and y'all, Tip is not cheap, so

1152
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: please make sure y'all preorder these books. Make sure y'all

1153
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: we got Christmas coming up, because Tip is a nicety there. Okay,

1154
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: I'm letting y'all know right now, so I need to

1155
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: pay tip because we got to start on book four.

1156
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: So please y'all make sure you hit the link in

1157
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: the show notes below and make sure you buy a

1158
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: coloring book because I gotta spend a lot of money

1159
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: before I can break even. Y'all. She laughing, but she

1160
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: knows the truth. She's actually being serious I am. And also,

1161
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 2: the coloring books are not cheap. I love to say

1162
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: she taxes listen. I like quality shit, so I make

1163
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: sure I put quality shit out there. And these coloring

1164
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: books are beautiful. Okay, paper is quality. The thickest paper

1165
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 2: you can find. Don't bled through if you use a marker.

1166
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: So I need y'all to support. Okay, so I can

1167
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: stop working like a two dollars hold, I want to

1168
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 2: upgrade to a ten dollar hole. Okay, going, bro, you

1169
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 2: need to be like more than ten dollars. I do,

1170
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: I do. I do escorts out here. Let them open

1171
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: the doors for you. Yeah, please, cause I'm tired. I

1172
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: will say, share your information where people can follow you,

1173
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: but I don't know if I want to do that,

1174
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: because I don't want you to get too busy, just

1175
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: saying I already know I have clients who be trying

1176
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: to hit me up, but I'll be talking them I'm

1177
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: on deadline because I'm working on your book. And they'd

1178
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, you don't have any free time, and

1179
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I'm on deadline. Like I'm on deadline.

1180
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: Like I'm really trying, like if you're not a paying

1181
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: client right now, because I do some stuff pro bono,

1182
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: Like there's like there's some things that are priority that

1183
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: I have to knock out and then I get to

1184
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: like everybody. But it's like I'm having to divvy up

1185
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: my daily schedule because I'm like coloring book, all right,

1186
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: these tasks, coloring book, these tasks. So it's been a time.

1187
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: I mean, share the information. They can follow me, they

1188
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: can see they can follow you that tip. I don't

1189
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: like sharing my people, but go ahead, Oh you can

1190
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 2: follow me at that. I'm just playing anything if anything, look,

1191
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,479
Speaker 2: get some good restaurant recommendations for me, you know, share

1192
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: where they can follow you bacause I was playing No,

1193
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: you don't even want that to put it in the no,

1194
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,479
Speaker 2: tell them, tell her I'm gonna stop paying. Go Okay,

1195
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 2: So y'all can follow me at the Tip Top. It's

1196
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 2: the Tip Top t h E t I P t

1197
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: op easy all right, well, y'all, if you have any questions, comments,

1198
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: or concerns, please make sure to follow me at Pretty

1199
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: Private Podcasts. Y'all. It's so I have to get used

1200
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: to saying, because I'm so used to saying the Professional

1201
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: Homegirl podcast or the PSHG podcast. But please make sure

1202
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: to follow me. If you have any questions, email me

1203
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 2: at hello at the PHG podcast dot com. Which I

1204
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: still need to change, y'all. And that's another thing. We've

1205
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: been working so hard on this coloring book that it's

1206
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 2: been kind of hard for me to focus on other

1207
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 2: things like the website coming up, the update and things

1208
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 2: with that nature. So getting there. I'm getting there. I'm

1209
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: getting there. The new website should be dropping really still, y'all.

1210
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: So thank y'all so much, Thank you, tip. This was

1211
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 2: so much fun. Problem thanks for having me, yes, and

1212
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 2: until next next time, Everyone's later. Be a Pretty Private

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01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:19,720
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01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 2: to subscribe and rate the show, and you can connect

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