1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: If you want Colts talk all year long, you're in 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: the right place. This is the Official Colts Podcast, giving 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: you an updated look at what's new with the horse shoes. 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: He's got it touchdown, Jack Coyle and it's gonna be 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: brought down inside the fifteen and it's gonna go to 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: the Forest Buckner. He's at the thirty. He's gonna go 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: ted touchdown Chat at the Taylor from the Power Home 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: Solar Studio. Let's get the podcast started. Hello and everyone, 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: and welcome to the Colts Official Podcast, presented by our 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: friends at win Bet, Proud sports book partner of the 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. Betting is a team sport bet together at 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: win Bet Courtesia win Bet. Later on in the show, 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: the Sackmaster, the quarterback hater Robert Mathis will join us 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: to talk about the elation going on in Indianapolis. That's 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: this football team has been on a good run. And 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: also who Robert likes. Some gambling action going on with 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: the great Sackmaster, But that's later on in the show. 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: Let's open this up. As always, the captain of the ship, 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: she keeps it afloat. Thank you for being here. You 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: make me look good. Weekend and week out, Miss Lara Overton, Jeffrey, 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: that's the easy part making you look well, it's just 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: mostly reminding you to record the show Sto Number one 23 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: for the podcast from the Raptors right there, that's JJ 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: stank of It. You can follow him at Colts dot com, Twitter. 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: It's a great everywhere across the board. If you want 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: your latest Colts action, follow these two at Lara Overton, 27 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: at JJ stank of ITTs. I'm at Hey Gorman and 28 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: I am elated because I'm gonna start this, lay this 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: blanket statement out today and let you guys chew and 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: dissect it. I was nervous before that kickoff against the 31 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: Patriots because of one man, not so much away Mac 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: Jones's plan, not so much as how their defense is 33 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: stepped up, but one man, and then as Bill Belichick, 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: and he was playing catch up all evening long. Jeffrey, 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: do you remember on last week's podcast when I said 36 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: we aren't giving Frank Reich enough credit for what he 37 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: can do schematically against Bill Belichick. Oh, everyone assumes we're 38 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: going to take away the run. You know what Frank 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: Reich did, and I love that Frank kind of he 40 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: eat spiked his own football a little bit. Toward the 41 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: end of his press conference, he went toe to toe 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick and one. Jonathan Taylor ran into heavy 43 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: boxes eight or more men in the box on nineteen 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: of his twenty nine carries gained one hundred and seventy yards. 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: The Patriots had nine men in the box on the 46 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: sixty seven yard touchdown. The Colts blocked it up perfectly. 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson, Danny Pinter, great communication, Kylan Granson sealed the edge. 48 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: Eric Fisher dominated his guy, and then jt. The thing 49 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: the Colts love about Jonathan Taylor is that when you 50 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: stacked the box against him and they block it upright, 51 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: it leaves him one on one with the defender. Jonathan 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: Taylor made Dante Hie Tower one of the best run 53 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: defending linebackers in the NFL. MISS But the biggest thing, Jeffrey, 54 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: is that Frank Reich went head to head with Matt 55 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick and one. Mattieberflus went head to head 56 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: with the guy who brought him here. That's right, Josh 57 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: McDaid higher and one Daniels Bubba Ventrone went head to 58 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: head with the guy who got He got his coaching 59 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: start from in Bill Belichick on special teams and won 60 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: the Colts across the board coaching wise, won this game. 61 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: And I said it last week, I'm going to spike 62 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: my own football that we weren't giving the Colts coaching 63 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: staff enough credit. Let's give him the credit now that 64 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: they deserve. Let's give Lara Overton credit because a couple 65 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: of six rounders that she's been chirping about four months 66 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: upon months upon months are playing paying dividends for this 67 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: football team. And of course I'm talking about Danny Pinner. 68 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: Great job filling in for Ryan Kelly and Lara Isaiah Rodgers, 69 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: back to back starts for Danny Pincer. I think that 70 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: really benefited Danny that he got the start down in 71 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: Houston in that shutout prior to the bye, had the 72 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: bye week, then was immediately able to build off of that. 73 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: That was significant because one of the things I talked 74 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: with Frank Reich about prior to kickoff was how imperative 75 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: the communication would be between Carson, Danny, Frank and Marcus 76 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: Brady because of how the Patriots defense really likes to 77 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: confuse things and mix things up and disguise things defensively 78 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: that this offense had to go in with a game 79 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: plan and then know how to adapt for what they 80 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: were seeing or what they weren't seeing. And huge credit 81 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: to Danny. Isaiah Rodgers was another late round guy that 82 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: I put attention on and he had a few great plays. 83 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: I did a show last week, actually guys with the 84 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: NBC Sports Boston crew, and they phil Tom Curran, yeah, um, 85 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: and they were asking me it was two different guys. 86 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: It wasn't those guys different different crew. I was like 87 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: a shorter segmentum, but it was just like a five 88 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: minute deal, but it was quick hitter questions. And one 89 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: of the questions was who is an offense so now 90 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm patting my own backs, who is an offensive player 91 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: now named Jonathan Taylor that Patriots fans should be aware of? 92 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: And I said nineteen hines, all right, that game to 93 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: fruition of the first first saw, I was like, okay. 94 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: And then they said, who is a Who's a guy 95 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: who's a defensive player not named Darius Leonard that Patriots 96 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: hand should be aware of? And I said Kenny Moore, 97 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: the second Kenny Moore the second six tackles, I one 98 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: tackle for lost, two passes, defense. So I was like, 99 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: I was feeling pretty good about being able to kind 100 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: of wrap my mind around what the game plan might 101 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: be and who the critical players could be because you 102 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: knew the emphasis was going to be on attempting to 103 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: contain JT as best they could. You knew that d 104 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: line was going to put a heavy emphasis on trying 105 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: to get to end affect Matt Jones. Of course, So 106 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: those were a couple of guys who I pinpointed. And 107 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: now the thing is, don't let your foot on the gas. 108 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: You have to come with that same level of intensity 109 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: each and every week the remainder of the regular season 110 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: if you're going to put yourself in position to make 111 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: a playoff run. So that's the thing to you come 112 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: off of these big wins sometimes and you set yourselves 113 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: up for a letdown because there was a ton of 114 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: emotion into this game. They had the whole bye week 115 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: where they used to kind of get a head start. 116 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: Now you got to go into Arizona with that same 117 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: level intensity. No, it's not an AFC game, any of those, 118 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: but this is still a win that matters significantly, a 119 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: game that could matter significantly. When you're talking about this 120 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: fourth quarter stretch of the season with as tightly packed 121 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: as he has, there's special teams touchdown. Obviously, the huge 122 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: cushion we needed. That was so huge because again you're 123 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: playing with that cushion. But my question to both of 124 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: you are right now, is Carson was a factor. I 125 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: mean he was a factor. He was a factor. He's 126 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback for gosh sakes, But for lack of a 127 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: better term, we didn't need him that much, you know 128 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that philosophy is my question coming 129 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: JJ that philosophy. Does that work against Arizona? Does that 130 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: work against the Raiders? Does that work against Jacksonville where 131 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: they say, hey, we've got the best runner in the league, 132 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: he's wearing twenty eight stop him and everything else falls 133 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: behind that. Well, here's where I think it matters. It 134 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: matters those teams. Certainly, it's gonna matter in the playoffs 135 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: when it's a completely different ball game. You can throw 136 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: out everything you've done in the regular season because teams 137 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: are going to attack you differently. What the Colts have 138 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: done a really good job of though with their run 139 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: game as being multiple and how they are able to 140 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: run the football, so they have this inventory of plays 141 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: and concepts they can go to when teams are stacking 142 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: the box, when teams are throwing blitzers at you know, 143 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: the interior in the A gap and stuff like that. 144 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: They have all these plays. That's really important. The thing 145 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: about Carson Wentz Frank Reich still has an immense amount 146 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: of trust in him. But the thing that Carson does 147 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: really well, and I was thinking about this watching the 148 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: Browns Raiders game yesterday, was if you took Carson out 149 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: of this offense, people might say, I only through fifty 150 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: seven yards. Does it really matter what Carson did a 151 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: couple of times, I think, and I'm gonna try to 152 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: ask Frank about this, is I think he checks some 153 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: runs to different sides, like Carson is able to read 154 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: the defense and say, this is where New England's focus 155 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: is going to be. Right, Let's get Jonathan in this 156 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: run concept and this different run play. Because Carson understands 157 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: the run game, he understands how to read defenses. Just 158 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: those little things, those little things are so difficult for 159 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: any old quarterback to step in and do well. Which 160 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: is I think, you know, Cleveland's got a great run 161 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: offense with a quarterback who hadn't played really at all 162 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: this year, Nick Mollins for them stepping in, they struggled, 163 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: especially in the first half. I think what Carson's able 164 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: to do in getting the Colts into the right run plays, 165 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: and that's something Frank has mentioned a couple of times 166 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: this year. That's a sneaky little thing that he does 167 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: well that you should not discount, even when you're looking 168 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: at his passing STAPs. Okay, speaking of sneaky, there were 169 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: two things that stood out to me. One the fourth 170 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: down conversion rate, what you were able to do with 171 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz those quarterback sneaks three for three and added 172 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: that added almost almost almost twelve minutes of time of 173 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: possessions on those plays. And I asked Frank this week 174 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: for Colts three sixty about not only like the physicality 175 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: that you have to have as a quarterback, because not 176 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: every quarterback is built to do that right, but then 177 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: also the confidence factor that you have to have, and 178 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: he said that Carson loves those types of situations. I mean, 179 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: because of the offensive line. I could I throw in 180 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: a quick stank bomb here, Reddy there It is that 181 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: since twenty seventeen, Carson Wentz leads the NFL and fourth 182 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: and one conversions with twenty one. The next highest total 183 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: is Ezekiel Elliott with fifteen. I see what Frank's doing, Lara. 184 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: Why there is a knack the person has to it? Well, 185 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: we knew he had this tendency. We saw it with 186 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette. Well illustrated, right, I love it. And then 187 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: the other thing to me was the creativity and the 188 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: play calling, not only in the revamped Philly now call 189 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: it the Indie Special in which JT was lead blocker 190 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: for Nyheim Hines on a touchdown, but Ashton Doulon and 191 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: the use of that play. I mean that was a 192 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking at my notes, thirty seven yard rush. It 193 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: was an end around. The creativity of the play calling 194 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: is something that I was loving in that game. I 195 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: thought that it was a really well executed plan from 196 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: Frank Reich and Coach Brady and from Carson wat And 197 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: that Duelan run, by the way, that also came with 198 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: eight men in the box. So you're trying to lighten 199 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: things up for Jonathan Taylor, you get Duelan on that 200 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: one of the fastest guys on the field, track guys 201 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: track guy D two All American Conference record holder in 202 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: like four different events. So you guys envisioned this really quickly. 203 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: Before we get to Josh Weinfiss of ESPN NFL Nation 204 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: covering the Arizona Cardinals, I asked Ashton Dulan, if you 205 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: had to line up a four by one hundred relay 206 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: against the running backs, who would your who would the 207 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: lineup be? So for the running backs, of course, you 208 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: have JT and Nihim who each ran college track. JT 209 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: at Wisconsin, Nahim was a conference champion at NC State, 210 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: and then you would have Marlon Mack and you would 211 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: have Dion Jackson. For the wide receivers, it was t 212 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: y on leadoff, it was Zach Pascal, Ashton Dulan, and 213 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: do Michael Harris, Michaels burned. There we get that going 214 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: off going. I also said, if we could combine the lineman, 215 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: like take take your pick, oh line d line of anybody, 216 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm taking Grover Stewart and Quentin Oh my god, can 217 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: get that race as my lead and anchor. Put whoever 218 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: else you want in the middle, But Grover and Quentin. 219 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: In terms of the fastest lineman that I could think of, 220 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna forget it, you know, the running back wide 221 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: receiver race. That's great. I want to see Grover race Quinton, 222 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: that's so badly, who do we have in that right? 223 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: So Quinton stats they tracked us an hour against Houston. 224 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: By the way, you're thinking it's trucking dbs. He was 225 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: so he was so far back. And speaking of which 226 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: we haven't even talked about jt sixty seven yard run 227 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: that pretty much iced everything. But did you see the 228 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: wheels on duelan to catch up to that running back? Hey? 229 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: And oh yeah, I mean he was moving so Lara, 230 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: I think you probably noticed this too on the sidelines. 231 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: But JT he's looking back, yeah, because he he Church mode. 232 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: They're calling, they're calling to go down. He slowed up 233 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: because he was gonna go down, which they, you know, 234 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: was kind of the intuition of Okay, got the clock running, 235 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: the clock running, and he's like, I'm just gonna go 236 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: for it. Well, sorry, le anymore. He looked back to 237 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: the sideline being like, is anyone gonna tell me to 238 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: go down? Nope? And then you know what he did. 239 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: He took off and he ran faster than any player 240 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL ran You're literally JJ stake if it's 241 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: just said. This running back looked to his sideline while 242 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: in a full left shoulder waiting for someone to say 243 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: go down, go down, or he got nothing, so he 244 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: turned the Jets. It's like it's like in baseball when 245 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: you're stealing second base, they tell you don't look back 246 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: at the catcher because it slows you down. JT looked 247 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: back at the sideline and still and still ran like 248 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: NFL next gen stats. Literally, he ran faster than anyone 249 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: who's ran in the NFL this year. Such a great win, Lara, 250 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: any ball carrier right, any ballall carrier, Such a great rand. 251 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: You brought up Frank right JJ earlier and stuff. Such 252 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: a great win for this organization because you know, all 253 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: eyes were honest, the only show in town and took 254 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: it to the evil Empire because those those bloodlines still 255 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: run deep here. JJ. You weren't here, Lara, you weren't 256 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: here way back in the sevens and sixes and fives. 257 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: And yeah, my wife, Betsy, she's she's been here. She 258 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: cannot stand Willie McGinnis. I just want to. I will 259 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: bring up Willie mcginniston. She'll be like he faked an 260 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: injury out. He's not alone. Yeah, day man, listen, let's 261 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: applaud Matt Eberflews on this. This is an offense in 262 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: New England Patriots that was averaging over thirty points a 263 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: game for the last five weeks. Defense did not allow 264 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: a score for seven straight quarters like that, four quarters 265 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: in Houston, three quarters at home against the New England Patriots. 266 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: They did not put points on the board until the 267 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: early seconds of the fourth quarter. That is impressive. I mean, 268 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: like Darius, we put that video out of him miked 269 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: up where he's like the mentality is they don't get 270 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: past the fifty. Yeah, they were, and then when they 271 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: got past the fifty, Darius picked off the pass. I mean, 272 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: like this defense, they are a stiff Oh my god, 273 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: Kendrew demoralized. I think I think. I think when I 274 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: was looking at the TV in here, I think our 275 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: our friend Kyle Brandt had that up on Angry Runs. Absolutely. 276 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: Frank choke that when I was talking with him, Frank 277 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 1: choke that maybe Darius should give some tutorials to the 278 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: running backs on the stiff arm. I was. It looked like, 279 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: you know how like Derrick Henry had that drill where 280 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: he was like planting guys on the earth. It looked 281 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: like he looked like Derrick Henry out there is I mean, 282 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: and you know what, more Tankaways are to come for 283 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: these guys, because that is what this colds. Thirty one 284 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: the un absolutely, but they do have an offensive powerhouse 285 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: awaiting in the desert on Christmas. Ho ho ho. Kyler 286 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: Murray and the Cardinals uh not playing great right now. 287 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: Go to ESPN if you want to find out more 288 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: and read about Josh Wine excuse me, read about the 289 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals from Josh Wine Fuss who joined us now. He 290 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: covers this Arizona team and the article that you came 291 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: out with a couple of days ago. I guess that's 292 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: my first question to you, Josh, Thanks for being here, 293 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: But why are the Arizona Cardinals playing their worst football 294 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: of the year. If I had that answer, I would 295 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: be driving Vegas right now a lot of money. I 296 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's interesting because this has happened 297 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: the last two seasons under Cliff Kingsbury. They seem to 298 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: start really really hot and then reach a point and 299 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a peak and then they just 300 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: start a decline. They're three and four in their last 301 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: seven after starting seven and zero, you know, but during 302 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: that stretch they didn't have Kyler Murray and DeAndre Hopkins 303 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: for three games they went two and one. They didn't 304 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: have Gandre Hopkins last week in Detroit and they got 305 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: absolutely demolished. So I don't know. I mean, it's a 306 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: combination of maybe they're getting a little too comfortable. Teams 307 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: could be figuring them them out, because this is kind 308 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: of the point in the season where there's plenty of 309 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: tape and you know, an offensive clip kingsburies. It's creative, 310 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: but you know, the base of it, the root of it, 311 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: it's pretty well known at this point. So I think 312 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: it's a combination of that play calling, play decision you 313 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: know making by both Kingsbury and Kyler Murray. Maybe guys 314 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: are getting tired. I mean, it's it could be a 315 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: combination of everything. But there's no there's no hard, you know, 316 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: reason tried into a reason why they are having this 317 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: kind of decline. But you know, for their sake, they 318 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: need to figure it out quickly because they went from 319 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: the number one overall seat in the nfcum in the 320 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: conference and now all of a sudden they're sitting at fourth. 321 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: If they lose a game or two more, they're out 322 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: of the division lead in the NFC West. They're looking 323 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: at a road game in the wild Card where they 324 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: could have been at home. It's just kind of turning 325 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: into a massive mess for this organization right now. Josh, 326 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: I got to talk about the New Albany, Indiana. Boy, 327 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: you know I was going to go there. I'm a 328 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: homer New Albany, Indiana as my hometown obviously the hometown 329 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: also of Rondale Moore. He was actually in my mom's class, 330 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: took my mom's class when he was a Bulldog prior 331 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: to transferring to Trinity High School. You would think with 332 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins out for multiple games with the injury, a 333 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: lot of people felt like Rondale would take a bulk 334 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: of the receptions, would be more of a focal point. 335 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: How can you kind of explain the utilization of late 336 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: of Rondale Moore being, you know, this dynamic weapon that 337 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: he has proven to be. Yeah, so first off, he 338 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: went to for Duce. I don't really like talking about him, 339 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: you guys, but I guess for the sake of this conversation, 340 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: I will chat about Rondale Moore, not just kidding, Um, 341 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: he's not exactly. I mean, he's still a rookie, right 342 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: and now I'm say he's still you know, figuring out 343 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: his way right through the NFL. So that's that's that's 344 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: part of it. I think the other part of it 345 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: is he's not exactly like a wide receiver one or 346 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver two at this moment. He's he's small, but 347 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: he's super fast. And the thing that he has going 348 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: for him is that, yes he's small, yes he's super fast, 349 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: but he's he's strong, right, he's muscular, he's thick, so 350 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: he can take some of these hits that some of 351 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: these other smaller, faster guys who are pretty skinny they 352 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: can't take. And that's helped him a lot so far. 353 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 1: He got hurt in Detroit, he had he's having an 354 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: MRI the squeak on his ankle um, so we'll see 355 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: how that plays out. But you know, he's clip He's 356 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: the type of guy that Cliff Kings very love to 357 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: use kind of on these jet suitees, um kind of 358 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: taking the ball out of the backfield on screens on 359 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: short passes where then he can be coming happened with 360 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: his feet? Sure can he go along, absolutely, but they 361 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: have other guys who can do that. They have Christian 362 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: Kirk with AJ Green, they had DeAndre Hopkinson's obviously out 363 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: for the rest of the season with a knee injury. 364 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: So his role just isn't as that type of high 365 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: um production type of receiver, right He's he's a guy 366 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: who will make plays happen because he's so fast and 367 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: so quick and can be so elusive. So they'll still 368 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: find that they'll plays for him um, but it just 369 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: won't be We're not going to see those numbers of 370 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: you know, wide receiver one wide receiver too, but we 371 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: will see those numbers increase a little bit because there's 372 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: no DeAndre hopping So I hope I answers your question. 373 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: But he's not exactly that type of guy who's going 374 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: to be at least right now in his in his 375 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: at this point in his career, going to be that 376 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: guy's and gelso so of attention from you know, within 377 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: the offense. He's going to get you know, his his packages, 378 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: he gets his plays, and he's hard to game plan 379 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: for because you know, he could take a screen pass 380 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: and go adr for a touchdown, or he could make 381 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: a cornerback work for it. Every you know, every every 382 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: step in a foot race, got on the sideline for 383 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: a deep pass. So he's kind of one of these 384 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: guys who could do a little bit of everything in 385 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: that regard. So full transparency here since you brought up 386 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: you know the I don't want to say hatred of Purdue, 387 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: but you know the dislike of Purdue. So Josh and 388 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: I go back to our days at Indiana University. So 389 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: we went to undergrad together, and then when Josh was 390 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: in grad school here in Indianapolis, we were in that 391 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: program together and everything. So Josh and I have known 392 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: each other for many, many years. So at some point 393 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: in this conversation, I guarantee that you know, the conversations 394 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: of Bloomington and Nicks and assembly Hall and Kilroys will 395 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: probably come full circle in this. But for now, I 396 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: know JJ Stankovitz has has more football related questions. I listen. 397 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: I am a neutral when it comes to IU and Purdue, 398 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: but I think I've been swayed toward. No, actually I 399 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: haven't been, because I never mind long story. I'm a 400 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: neutral when it comes to those two teams. But I 401 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: want to ask you, Josh, so When I was reading 402 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: your article after the Lions game, which the Cardinals lost 403 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: thirty to twelve, Kyler Murray said, quote, Obviously we didn't 404 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: come prepared at all. They played hard. It was a 405 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: physical game. I wish we knew it was going to be. 406 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: So what did you make of that? Were the Cardinals 407 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: not ready for a physical game? Are they a team 408 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: that is not built for a physical game? What did 409 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: you make of how the Cardinals digested that loss? First off, 410 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: the fact is he said that, kind of I sat 411 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: there a little bit in shock, like what quarterback is 412 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: going to admit that their team wasn't ready physically for 413 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: an NFL football game? Like, I was very surprised that 414 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: he said that, But I think it shows more of 415 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's maturity, right, he wouldn't have said this since 416 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: first two years. I think he's starting to understand his 417 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: role as a face of this France guys, as a 418 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: quarterback of the team, as an MVP candidate, former Working 419 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: of the Year. So he kind of understands that what power, 420 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: what's the way he has with his words? And that's 421 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: great for us, you know, in the media, because he's 422 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: now more open and more free to say things where 423 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: he didn't feel like he was the first couple of years. Now, 424 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: the second part of that is were they ready physically 425 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: obviously not right if he's coming out and saying that. 426 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: I mean, they got punched in the mouth early and 427 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: they just got absolutely trampled over by Alliance team that 428 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: had one win and the first overall pick coming into 429 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: until last weekend. Were they looking past them? Possibly? I Mean, 430 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: this is a type of year. It's a weird type 431 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: of year. You know, it's the holidays, Christmas is coming 432 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: up for these guys. They know they have a short week, 433 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: but then they also know they have, you know, the 434 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: Sunday off. This is a lot of things that were happening. 435 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: They're coming up of a bad win against the Rams 436 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: on Monday Nights football. Everyone was watching. That was their 437 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: chance to kind of go out and kind of show 438 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: kind of you know, quiet to hate. Because the narrative 439 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: around this team all season has been yeah, there's seven 440 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: and oh but yeah they're really good. But there's always 441 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: been a butt to this and it was a big butt, right. 442 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: It was always well, they're the Cardinals, they're not going 443 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: to sustain it, and look what's happened they're literally proving 444 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: everybody right. So maybe it was a combination of they 445 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: had a hangover from the Rams game, they were looking 446 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 1: forward to this game in the holidays, and they were 447 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: just overlooking, you know, a line team that really has 448 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: nothing to lose at this point. They want to go 449 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: out there just be spoiler for everybody. You know, number one, 450 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: pick B damn that type of thing. Can they playt 451 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: kneecaps over there in Detroit? Are basically basically you know, 452 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: this team can play physical football, right, they have James 453 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: Connor in the backfield. They can play smashing off football 454 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: if they want to. But that's the question do they 455 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: want to? I mean, they were throwing three times from 456 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: inside the five on Sunday in Detroit instead of letting, 457 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: you know, the offensive line to banging in with Connor, 458 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: who's a pretty physical running back. Right, he's downhill. He's 459 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: kind of really he's a hard headed guy and he 460 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: doesn't stop. I won't have noticed about him that you 461 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: always feet movie, right, He's always trying to get the 462 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: extra engine. I think that that's this is who he is. 463 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: He's the western Pennsylvania guy. These is kind of that 464 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: that work ethics kind of inglained in him, but they 465 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: didn't give him the chance to do it in Detroit. 466 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: And I think that that's more Cliff Kingsbury trying to, 467 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: you know, make things happen. You know, the offictive line 468 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: wasn't one hundred percent, so he's trying to make things 469 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: easier on them. And he think, you know, he does 470 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: have the receivers to make these plays, but you know, 471 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: they can't play smashmal football. They just sometimes achieved not to. 472 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: And I think what that happens is kind of head 473 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: scratching watching listen. Find him on Twitter at Josh Weinfuss, 474 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: also at ESPN dot com. The latest Cardinals news is 475 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: coming from our man, Josh Okay, a couple of veterans 476 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: not in that locker room anymore. I think it has 477 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: a big, big play into what happens in the latter 478 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: parts of this season, into the playoffs with no JJ 479 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: Watt and DeAndre Hopkins. So you turn to your head coach, 480 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: I'm asking you, Josh, who the heck is Cliff Kingsbury. 481 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: We know he's a dreamboat, we know he lives in 482 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: an awesome house, but what is his basic fundamentals of rugby? 483 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: You know, running a football team and losing better in 484 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: the process. I don't think there's any job security issues 485 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: going on in Arizona, but I just want to know. 486 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: We've seen this, you know, late late season fade out 487 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: of Kingsbury before. What is he to you as far 488 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: as overall as a head coach. It's so it's such 489 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: an interesting question, right, So he's obviously has the title 490 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: of head coach, but he doesn't coach any of the defense. 491 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: And we've seen him, like I was watching him again 492 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: in Detroit at one point he was like twenty five 493 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: yards away from Vans Joe as the defensive coordinator in 494 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: the defense on the field like Vance is on on 495 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: the white boundary, he's calling the plays. He's basically the 496 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: head coach of the defense. And Cliff if it's kind 497 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: of all the way down the field, kind of back 498 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: behind the yellow line, kind of blending out the players, 499 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: and he looked like an insisting coach if you didn't 500 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: know what he looked like or who he was. And 501 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: to me, it's kind of telling, right, like shouldn't a 502 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: head coach kind of being involved all the time, you know, 503 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting question to ask, and he 504 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: doesn't really I mean they have a running coordinator who 505 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: is Sean Cooler, the offensive line coach. So when you 506 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: really kind of take a step back and you look 507 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: at how this team manage, you have someone running the defense, 508 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: if someone running the running game, the basically clipp teams 509 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: Verias in charge of the passing game and the quarterbacks. 510 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: Ad obtusly called the plays, but that's kind of his 511 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: niche that's what he does so short, he gives the speeches. 512 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: He you know, he handles the administrative stuff, but he's 513 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: really kind of just one among many coaches who are 514 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: in charge. Obviously, the buck stops with him as a 515 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: head coach, but in terms of you know, it's it's 516 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: such a I've never seen this in an NFL organization 517 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: where one coach, what the head coach isn't as involved 518 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: in every aspect. I mean, isn't I take that back. 519 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: We have seen head coaches not being up there and 520 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: offensive mind the head coach or not as involved in 521 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: the defense. We saw a little with Bruce Arians, but 522 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: at least Arians didn't like take a step back, right, 523 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: he was always there next to his because of coordinators 524 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: calling the play or you know, watching the plays, happen 525 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: putting in, you know, giving his input. But he was 526 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: right there. I've never seen a coach kind of walked 527 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: that far away from from the deeper, the coordinator in 528 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: the middle of the game. The whole thing's weird to me. 529 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: But he has been a head coach. Report. He spent 530 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: six years of text and stack. You know, he wants 531 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: thirty five and forty. But he knows how to manage 532 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 1: a locker room. He knows how to handle players. Um. 533 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: He loves coaching in the NFL because it's all football 534 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: all the time. He does have to worry about grades 535 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: or boosters or this and that. It's Oh, it's all football. 536 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: And he appreciates grown men having us as their job, 537 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: and they appreciate him because of that. He's very um. 538 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: He keeps us meeting short. He's not a big row 539 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: row guy. He doesn't give he doesn't have mottos class 540 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,239 Speaker 1: all over the walls, he doesn't have T shirts all 541 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: that stuff. He's just like, all right, guys, let's come in, 542 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: let's do our work. He spent a lot of time 543 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: on the practice shield. They do a lot of walkthroughs. 544 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: He wants these guys to see it instead of just 545 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: he wants to go. He wants these guys to like 546 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: act it out instead of just sitting in a classroom 547 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: watching on film and thing, yeah I got it. He 548 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: wants to see if you got it. So you know, 549 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: he has his unique ways. But in terms of a 550 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: management style, it's just it's it's a unique approach, I 551 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: guess in some ways, but it's obviously not working down 552 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: the stretch for for for for this team. Wine face. 553 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: Have you been invited to Cliff Kingsbury's palatial posh? Did 554 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: you sip some rosette? Done them a good offseason thing? 555 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: Maybe a little debrief or anything like that. I have not. 556 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: I do have a realtor and he sent me to 557 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: be the listing for it. Oh what's that cost you? 558 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: What is it? A seven thousand square foot home in 559 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: Paradise Valley I see or something? Yeah, something like that. 560 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: It's not it doesn't have a lot of land around it. 561 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: It's like four points something million dollars um. It's very contemporary. 562 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: I guess you would call it modern. I guess ye. 563 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: Kind of a lot of white, a lot of graves, 564 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: a lot of flates. Um. Not good for kids, I'll 565 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: tell you that. Yeah, who has two hunder four, right, 566 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: two hundred four yeah, yeah, so we can never live there, 567 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: like they would demolish that place. That's the only reason, 568 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: knows the kids obviously, you know, like that's totally your vibe. 569 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: Vibe um, you know, and obviously we like having our 570 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: fireplaces out up and running went one hundred and ten 571 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: degrees a little more toasty. But now we've not been 572 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: invited over. Um. It's it's a quintessential bachelor pass for 573 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: somebody in his text bracket. It's perfect one, all right. 574 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: Question more in regards to the the game itself, well, 575 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: one of the things that looking at kind of the 576 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: matchup that we have. Of course, this Colts defense has 577 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: been on a mission of late. They're coming off, of course, 578 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 1: that win over New England, and prior to that they 579 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: had to shut out of the Houston Texans. Um, the 580 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 1: Cardinals defense has been really good against the pass, they 581 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: are not so strong against the run. In terms of 582 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: how this Colts offense matches up with the Cardinals defense, 583 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: is this a game in which they are I mean, 584 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: everyone is challenged against Jonathan Taylor, but how challenging will 585 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: it be? In particular just because of the tendons these 586 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: that this Cardinals defense has had of late. Let's put 587 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: it this way. If I'm Frank Wright, I call two 588 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: plays the whole game, bubble screens and run plays. That's it. 589 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: That's it. And like the ratio is gonna be like 590 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: eight to two, Like eight run plays for two bubble screens. 591 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: If I am a team coming against coming into this 592 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: game against the Cardinals, and I have a running back 593 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: like a Jonathan Taylor, all I'm doing is running the ball, right, 594 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: I look up the number. So Taylor's averaging four points 595 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: or five point six two yards per carry and the 596 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: Cardinals are giving up four point five to six yards 597 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: per carry. I am just pounding them into submission. If 598 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm if I'm if I'm the Colts, right, you have 599 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: a guy who can go off for two hundred yards, right, Yeah, 600 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: And that's all. And the Cardinals have struggled against screens 601 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: for like ten years. That's among like four different coaches, 602 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know why, but that's just how it is. 603 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: And that's all. I would run against these guys, and 604 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: you can beat them, you could. Another big key in 605 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: the comes hand in hand with the running game is 606 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: if you can keep the offense off the field, you're 607 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: out of winning. Go up exponentially, and that's what the 608 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: Lions did. They ate up eight minutes and fifty seconds 609 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: with their opening drive, so by time the Cardinals got 610 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: on the field, there's less than seven minutes on the 611 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: clock in the first quarter. Right, I mean that's kind 612 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 1: of to get moralizing, right. That can kind of take 613 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: the air out of the sales of an offense that's 614 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: so potent and so high powered. So you know, that's 615 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: kind of what my game plan would be if it's 616 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: upon the cult, especially with a guy like like Daylor Josh. 617 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: If the Cardinals win this game, what would you expect 618 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: they will have done well to win? Oh, that's so 619 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: easy to stop the run. I mean plug the run. 620 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: I think if they plug the run, there's a very 621 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: good chance they will win this game. But I just 622 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: I just don't see that happening, right, I Mean, they 623 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: look great in Week one against Derrick Henry. Henry held 624 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: in the fifty eight yards, but they've had about two 625 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: hundred yard rushers, I think two or three ninety yard 626 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: rushers and two three or four eighty yard rushers. Like 627 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: the run game, the run defense has been their Achilles 628 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: heal all season and I don't see that. I just 629 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: don't see that stopping overnight on a short week especially. 630 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, then, what do the 631 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals do well as a team? Like if you're someone 632 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: asks you in a bar, how good are the Cardinals? 633 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: You say, this is what they do well? So what 634 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: do they do well well? Last seven games? Not much? 635 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: But overall, I mean that this passing game could Here's 636 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: something about this offense. Right when they get going, they're 637 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: virtually unstoppable. It's it's an up temple offense, so they 638 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: don't give a lot of a lot of time to rest, 639 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: and they can create yards and points very quickly when 640 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: they're clicking. But they got to get to that point. 641 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: They've been very slow to get going recently, and I 642 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: think that has a lot to do with their three 643 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: and four record over the last seven. But once they 644 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: get going, they can put up fourteen twenty one points 645 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: in a quarter without blinking, and all of a sudden 646 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: you're looking at it like what just happened to this game? 647 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: And they've done that, and I think that's a big 648 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: key to this game. If they can put up points early, 649 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: they're going to force the Colts to pass. So that's 650 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: I mean, your run defense actually doesn't have to do anything. 651 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: If your offense can put up points and take control 652 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: of this game in the first quarter, first quarter and 653 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: a half, that's going to decide how the Colts have 654 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 1: to approach it. And that could take Jonathan Taylor out 655 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: of the equation completely. And it's possible. We just haven't 656 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: seen it. La Josh, it sounds easy, boy, you're telling me. 657 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: And what I'm hearing is DeAndre Hopkins not in the lineup. 658 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: That double team's got to go somewhere. Christian Kirk isn't 659 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: as dangerous as he is, even though he had nine 660 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: catches last week. And on the other side, Chandler Jones 661 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: isn't the same player without JJ out there. Defensively speaking, 662 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: what are these guys. It's a good question, it's a 663 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: great question. I mean, we've thought Chandler Jones and will 664 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: you raised a great point right on both sides of all, 665 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins he was he primarily plays as at isolated 666 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: receiver on one side of the offense, and that forced 667 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: the coverage to kill over that way, and that left 668 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: all those other guys go through the guys to the 669 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: opposite side with one on one. Same thing. On defense, 670 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: guys had the offersive lineman had to figure out Dewey 671 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: Chip or double Chandler Jones or J J. Watt. But 672 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: once wat went out that that decision now had to 673 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: come down to Dewey Chip or block Marcus Golden, who 674 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: has ten sacks this season. So this is a defense 675 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: that will that will pressure you a ton, right, They 676 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: will pin their ears back and they will come, come, come. 677 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: It is it's kind of almost impressive to watch when 678 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: you take a step back and kind of seeing the 679 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: season as a whole, because they are they are creating pressure, 680 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: they are trying to create pressure. I just so often 681 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: it's almost exhausting to watch um. But I think the 682 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: biggest question is their secondary and in the cornerbacks in particular. 683 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: You have Byron Murphy who's the third year corner out 684 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: of Washington. He's there, you know CV one if you will, 685 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: But Robert Alfred's out there other guy. And they have 686 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: Marco Wilson who's a rookie out of Florida. So he 687 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: even picked on all year. So you know, this is 688 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: a team that could that can't get to the quarterback. 689 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: They can't stop the run very well, but when they 690 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: forced teams to pass, they have a deep secondary. Their 691 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: safeties are very good. But it's a cornerback to a 692 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: kind of a big issue. All right, Josh, As we're 693 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: wrapping this up right now, give me the places you 694 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: miss most in each of these locations. I know you're 695 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: living it up out there in Arizona. But the place 696 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: you miss most in Bloomington, and the place you miss 697 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: most in Indianapolis and you can't wait to get back 698 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: to when you return here for the combine. God willing, 699 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: we're back to having all of the festivities here in 700 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: a couple of months. That's a good question. So Bloomington 701 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: it would have to be next obviously, and maybe late 702 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: night at Kilroys on Kirkwood for some they've revamped it. 703 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: I got it to give you a heads up. You 704 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: got it. It's it's totally they've completely renovated. It looks 705 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: totally different. There's no birth canal anymore. If you're familiar 706 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: with with Kilroys on Kirkwood. Yeah, it's like it's like 707 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: kind of blueheet. There's like bottle service that Ki was 708 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,479 Speaker 1: on Kirkwood. I've heard that I'm not two thrills. Like 709 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: for those who don't know and who are listening to this, 710 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: the birth canal is a part of Killers in Kirkwood 711 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: that connected two rooms of the bar, and it was 712 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: literally probably like eight feet across, and you'd have thousands 713 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: of kids trying to get through this. Are it literally 714 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: like a birth canal? Like a baby trying to come through. 715 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: It would take like twenty minutes to go my feet. 716 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: It was nuts. Josh, listen, I'm not I'm going to 717 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: just sit here and listen to this. Listen, you wake up. 718 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: It's seventy degrees and Sonny, okay number one. Okay, No, 719 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: you're not missing missing the bars in Bloomington. Okay, that's 720 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: all I'm saying. You live in paradise, my friend. You're 721 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: doing fine. I mean he's not kick Kingsberry comes right now. 722 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: It's fifty four degrees right now. I had to or 723 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: sweater this morning. Here we're going out here. Okay, I 724 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: love it, man, Hey, go ahead. No, I was answering 725 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 1: the other half of the question. And you know, INDI 726 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: is the real very easy staining almost Yeah, there it is. 727 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: He's probably gonna go golf now, you know, once he 728 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: writes his article for the day. It's just gonna golf 729 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: casually in December. I love it. Probably all right, follow him. 730 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: It's easy to find on Twitter at Josh wine Fuss. 731 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 1: Also you find him on ESPN dot com. He covers 732 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. We're gonna catch up with you this weekend. 733 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: Can't wait for a great contest. But Josh, I'll tell 734 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: you what, I'm a new fan. Not only are you 735 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: a friend of Lara's, but you're a friend of the show. 736 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: And I love the way you write about this football team. 737 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: So find him online again. Big thanks to Josh wine Fuss. 738 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Pal, Thanks having guys appreciate it. Now we 739 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: bring in royalty member of the Cult's Ring of Honor 740 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: and soon to be Yeah, I said it, Pro Football 741 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. We're talking to Robert Mathis. I love 742 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: having you on here because after big wins like New England, 743 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of faces have changed, but 744 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: that head coach is still the same and that offensive 745 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: coordinator is still the same. Robert, you're an association with 746 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: Winn Bett, who brings you this podcast. I love that connection. 747 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: I love the partnership you have. But I also love 748 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: to see your face when the Colts are taking care 749 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: of business at home against the evil Empire the Patriots. 750 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: Oh man, yeah, you know, I love it. You know 751 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: I hate Belichick, I hate Patriots, I hate the Patriot Colors. 752 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: I hate the smell of Boston. I keep going, ninety eight, 753 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: keep going. I hate Fox Burrow, I hate everything. I 754 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: hate the coffee that they serve everything. Man, duncan, duncan, 755 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: don us No, but awesome. It was awesome, huge victory 756 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: for the coach, and it really put us in position 757 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 1: that the Hemmel business in the postseason. So I'm very 758 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: excited and happy for it. Wasn't next Robert, This this 759 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: game coming up against Arizona. When when you played and 760 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: you saw a team that had you know, they lost 761 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: a game, You're like, how the how the heck did 762 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: they lose that? Like Arizona lost to Detroit. How did 763 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: that change your approach looking at a team all when 764 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: in your career was it still like, hey, we know 765 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: who they are? Yeah? Well I learned in this game 766 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,720 Speaker 1: it's any giving Sunday. Things can happen, and you should 767 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: never take any team for granted, especially when a team 768 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 1: comes out a very disappointing loss, so they're gonna be 769 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: hungry and they're gonna want to prove that they're not 770 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: a fluke. So these other type of games is going 771 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: to be hard fault. And our guys were coming right 772 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: in skyhigh coming off with a huge win, so our 773 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 1: confidence is up there, so it's gonna be up. It's 774 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a game to watch, Robert. I always love 775 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: following along your Twitter feed while games are going on. 776 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: You know, tough to do. Obviously, during a Colts game, 777 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: you're usually there at home. Of course I'll be on 778 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: the silence. But last night I was watching the Bears 779 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: were playing, and they put up the stat Robert Quinn 780 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: oldest NFL player with fifteen sacks in a season since 781 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. Below it, they put Robert Mathis, and Robert says, 782 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: love seeing old man Quinn still letting them know he 783 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: do this. But I won't let them forget that half 784 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: in twenty third scene, how much are you kind of 785 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: enjoying watching some of these defenses around the league getting 786 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: But you know, to kind of weigh in on some 787 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: of these guys. There are some young pass rushers that 788 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: I know you're pretty high on. Then also guys like 789 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: Robert Quinn who are holding it down. Um you if 790 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: it's anything to do with bidysclaiming quarterbacks, you know, I 791 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: love it. So that particularly year Robert Quinn and I 792 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 1: became friends although we was gonna Hita sack battle, and uh, 793 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: I like, I love what he's doing. He's just just 794 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: letting guys know that. Uh it's just par respects that 795 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: he's an elder statesman, but he's still getting it done, 796 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 1: just like Von Miller, JJ JJ White, these type guys, 797 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: they're still getting to the quarterbacks and teaching the younger 798 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: guys just like when they were young guys. We uh 799 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,879 Speaker 1: the wipe myself and uh like unss Peppers and guys 800 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: like that had to teach them. So it's just watching. 801 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: It's exciting just to watch the torch being passed. Yeah, 802 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: you can find him out at the wind back ten 803 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: at home games in touchdown, Tom Robert Mathis has brought 804 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: to you by our friends that win back. Before we 805 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: get into the promotion, I need to ask you you're 806 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: you've been a leader in the locker room, You've been 807 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: a leader of men and that in your coach career. Um, 808 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: with this final month of the season, things change, Robert, 809 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: you know that better than most as a leader, as 810 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: a captain, what are you sharing with your guys this 811 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: time of year about playing their best football? It's about 812 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: who gets hot at the right time and who that 813 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: In the two thousand and sixth season, it really showed 814 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: that we started high and we cooled off. But when 815 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: this postseason started, we were right back up to being hot. 816 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 1: And also the year year before that was the Pittsburgh Steelers, 817 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: and even just last year Temple Bay Books they got 818 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: hot at the right time and they were scorching and 819 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: they ran a table. So it's not how you start 820 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: the races, how you finish it. And I know it's 821 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,879 Speaker 1: a old cliche, but it's what. It's actually very true, right, 822 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: absolutely true. Hey man, you got a partnership with win bet. 823 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: That's pretty fun. All fans have to do is go 824 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 1: to winbet dot com at twenty five dollars on any 825 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: NFL a game and you have a chance to win 826 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: some great giveaways, some great Colts memorabilia as part of 827 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: us part of the giveaway as well. I mean, you 828 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: have a chance to win a sign football from Kenny 829 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: Moore from DeForest Butler from Jonathan Taylor. It doesn't matter. 830 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's. Oh, you know, that's a new 831 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: thing about this, Robert is everybody, including my aunt and 832 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: uncle are betting on football games this week. Now with 833 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: this promotion, you got a chance to win some great prizes. 834 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: Tell me about the win bet partnership and how fun 835 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: it is to you to wage you're on NFL games. 836 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: Oh man, it's it's pretty spectacular. Man, this is this 837 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: is new for me and uh and it kind of 838 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,959 Speaker 1: gave me new life. And I know we've got one's 839 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: going next year. We're trying to trying to give away 840 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: tickets and uh, if they make a twenty five dollars 841 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: NFL bit, right win bit in Indiana. And I mean 842 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: there's a chance you can get get club level seats 843 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: all years season tickets. Right. It's very is very man, 844 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,280 Speaker 1: This is exciting. And uh, just the mix and mingle 845 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: with people when you play football with outside of football 846 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: and just just get to know Luke people here and 847 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: there and now it's just a fun time to be alive. 848 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: It is, man, it is After a great career, sit 849 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: back and watch the others do what you do for 850 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: eleven and then throw a little cabbage on it. That's fun. 851 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: Wouldn't bet. Wouldn't bet the best spot for all your 852 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: football action. Follow Robert Mathis, go to windbet dot com 853 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: and again you might see him out of touchdown time 854 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 1: before a Coats home game at the wind Beat tenth man. 855 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: I love talking to you about football. And to wrap 856 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: it up with this, the Arizona Cardinals. Await, it's on 857 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: the road. It's Christmas Day, a holiday. Every eye in 858 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: America and the world will be on that game. How 859 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: important it is for the Colts to continue their domination, 860 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: but they are going up against the buzz Saw and 861 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 1: Kyla Kyler Murray and the Cardinals. Oh, it's very important. 862 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: Just to let you, like you said, it is extremely 863 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: important to get hot and stay hot at the right time. 864 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: And a coach they're they're putting it all together. So 865 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to play us around this time because 866 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, we got an offense with the MVP caliber 867 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: running back who I feel should be the MVP, definitely 868 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: offers a Player of the Year. Also a defensive MVP coundidate, 869 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,280 Speaker 1: Dare's Leonard sure Um, who I who I feel should 870 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: be seriously considered footbath. But all things consider, we're definitely 871 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 1: are very dangerous teams this this this point in the year. 872 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: But easier said than done. And you gotta you gotta 873 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 1: go out and make things happen. And uh, if you 874 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: make it happen, we're gonna put the cabin join it 875 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: like here we go, Here we go. Now we're talking. 876 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: Robert Mathis brought to you by our friends that win 877 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: bad man. I got one more thing for you for 878 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 1: you go. I need kind of a judgment on this 879 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: thing we need. We've got the jury, we just need 880 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: a judge. So who's better than Robert Mathis our own 881 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 1: Lara Holverton Robert. She doesn't like sweets, she doesn't like pies, 882 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,919 Speaker 1: she doesn't like chocolate, She doesn't allow that. You don't 883 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: like muffins, you don't like don't nut. I don't pretty 884 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: Robert because the passion that Robert feels for his dislike 885 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: of the Patriots, that's how I feel about donuts. Okay, 886 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: So Judge mathis, Judge Mathis, can we get a ruling 887 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: on this? The woman won't eat sweets? Oh, I'll tell 888 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: you what. Has he tried? Has he tried loans? Bakery? 889 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: A fresh batch of loans bakery. Uh, don't let Coincidentally, 890 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,800 Speaker 1: Robert I offered her, did there are some in the 891 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: brake room right now? Thanks to calm? It's a fire 892 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,879 Speaker 1: up Tuesday. Yeah. No, they have to be fresh. Oh 893 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: you're saying, like right out there, you're going to Longs. Yeah, 894 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: like like I got a stand in line on my 895 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: way out to i MS. That's usually were you sitting. 896 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: You sit in the car and somebody will bring it. 897 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: They bring it fresh, right Hey, Robert, If you say 898 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: you don't like that, then I don't know to tell you. 899 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: Challenge right there? Nine eight? Be honest, how many could 900 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: you put down? If you're sitting in your pickup truck 901 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,919 Speaker 1: and they deliver it right to your window? The whole 902 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: bakers doesn eat him all up, just like the quarterbacks. Yes, sir, nuts, sir, 903 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: I love it, Robert Mathis, We appreciate your time. He's 904 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 1: brought to you by our friends at Winning Bet, just 905 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: like this podcast is. I'll tell you what, I can't 906 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: wait to watch what's going on with you and Win 907 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: Bet and future possible more than multiple home games, hopefully 908 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 1: knocking on wood. The Colts have a good playoff from Robert. 909 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: We sure, appreciate the time as always. Man oh yeah, 910 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: oh man, I'm always always happy to be here. Man, 911 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: go coats and go win bit. You heard it right there, 912 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: Go Coats, go win bet for Robert Mathis, for JJ 913 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 1: Steakovitz and Lara Overton. A big thanks to Josh Wine 914 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,280 Speaker 1: Fuss for joining us. This is the Colts Official podcast. 915 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: We have got a hot football team and we are 916 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: steamrolling through the month of December, which will carry on 917 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: into January. So follow us here at Lara Overton, at 918 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: JJ Stakovitz. I'm at Hey Gorman. We'll talk to you 919 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: next week.