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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of the Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: en Buck Sexton Show. There's this thing going on called

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Speaker 1: tariffs and a discussion around it. Stock market is in

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Speaker 1: some interesting moments here, going up, going down, going up,

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Speaker 1: going down. We will break this down for you, and

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Speaker 1: it's all going to be all right. Trump has it,

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Speaker 1: keep the fake he said, there's going to be a

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Speaker 1: little bit of pain, and he's definitely not backing off

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Speaker 1: of this. So the people that are whining about it,

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Speaker 1: it will fall on deaf ears. We shall discuss what

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Speaker 1: this is likely to do, what the ramifications are, a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of stuff. Look, the biggest story in the

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Speaker 1: world right now because it affects the American economy, the

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Speaker 1: global economy is clearly Trump's tariffs. We've also got a

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Speaker 1: little bit of stuff about Fauci, some other things, some

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Speaker 1: transgender sports madness, some other things that we will get

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Speaker 1: to you later on the program. But the economy is

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Speaker 1: on everyone's mind right now. It is absolutely number one,

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Speaker 1: and let's just start to talk about where this is.

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Speaker 1: So some tariffs are set to go into effect. Well

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Speaker 1: when they go into effect and how they go into

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Speaker 1: effect is a big part of this conversation. But we

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Speaker 1: know that we had our liberation Day last week. On

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Speaker 1: the good side of things. Right now, you have a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of countries, something like fifty countries have already

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Speaker 1: reached out to President Trump saying, look, let's negotiate on

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Speaker 1: these tariffs. Let's have a conversation about what's best for you,

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Speaker 1: what's best for us, and work constructively going forward. Taiwan

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Speaker 1: has already said that it will eliminate all tariffs, so

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Speaker 1: has India, Israel, Vietnam, Cambodia. They are going to zero tariffs,

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Speaker 1: zero trade barriers. Now, for a lot of people, you

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Speaker 1: might stop and say, hold on a second, why did

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Speaker 1: Israel have tariffs? Why did Taiwan have to? Oh, that's right,

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Speaker 1: what else has them? Except for us? Is the way

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Speaker 1: things have effectively been working for a long time. Pretty

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Speaker 1: much everybody else but Clay is as a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a choppy day in the market. So I understand

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Speaker 1: a lot of you aren't day trading, a lot of

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Speaker 1: you probably don't even actively manage accounts in the stock

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Speaker 1: market at all, but four one ks and pension plans

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Speaker 1: rely on the stock market. You have to keep that

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Speaker 1: in mind. There's Also, what happens when you have an economy,

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Speaker 1: A lot of it is built on consumer spending. If

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Speaker 1: people feel like they're getting poorer, even if they're not

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Speaker 1: at the top, there will be less spending, which can

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Speaker 1: result in less less investment, unemployment. You know, things can

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Speaker 1: go wrong, Clay, I'm just gonna put it out this way.

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Speaker 1: Trump said he was going to do it. He's doing it.

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Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's earned the trust of

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Speaker 1: the American people, or should have earned the trust of

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Speaker 1: the American people when it comes to the economy. He

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Speaker 1: said that this is going to be a little rocky

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Speaker 1: to get going, but he has a strategy of plan

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Speaker 1: in mind, and he's just telling everybody very clearly, don't

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Speaker 1: be a what was the word, like a panic, a

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Speaker 1: panickin or something like that, Like, yes, the New Panic

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Speaker 1: Party says, just stay the course. It's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: Take the pain. For those who see it as something

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Speaker 1: that's very dangerous for the stock market, it will rebound

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Speaker 1: and everything's gonna be okay. What say you.

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Speaker 2: I think the lesson of the Trump era is Trump

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Speaker 2: does something, everybody overreacts and says, oh my goodness, this

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Speaker 2: is going to lead to eminent disaster. Will never recover

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Speaker 2: from this. This is unacceptable. And then within a few

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Speaker 2: weeks that story has moved on and things have gotten

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Speaker 2: typically a little bit better than they were before. To me,

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Speaker 2: Trump came in recognizing there were three profoundly important things

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Speaker 2: that or going the wrong direction in this country. One is,

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Speaker 2: and let's not forget it, the border. The southern border

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Speaker 2: is shut down. Joe Biden let ten million illegals in

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Speaker 2: in four years. In basically thirty days, Trump completely shut

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Speaker 2: story at all. So one of those three big issues. Now, yes,

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Speaker 2: there still need to be deportations of violent criminals. There

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Speaker 2: are still many illegals here, we know that, but in

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Speaker 2: terms of making things worse, Trump solved the border almost overnight.

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Speaker 2: The other one of the three, I think is on

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Speaker 2: the right direction. Buck thankfully Elon Musk has come in.

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Speaker 2: He has said, we have a thirty seven trillion dollar

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Speaker 2: national debt, we cannot continue to operate at this level,

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Speaker 2: and we have to go in and find waste and

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Speaker 2: fraud in our government. And it seems to me that

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk and the Dog's team have done a good

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Speaker 2: hammering this since he came down the escalator at Trump

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Speaker 2: unfair global trade economy and we have to in some

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Speaker 2: being driven by China, which has dominated against us. So

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Speaker 2: within that construct, this is right now the battleground that

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Speaker 2: Trump has chosen, and he is fighting it. Let me

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Speaker 2: say a couple of things, because I do think it's

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Speaker 2: important your stock prices are effectively where they were a

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Speaker 2: year ago. This is true whether you're a democratic, Republican

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Speaker 2: or independent. Do you know what people fear the most?

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Speaker 2: It's having something that they think they have taken from them.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the primary lessons of politics. It's why

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Speaker 2: reform is so difficult with anything, because once people would

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Speaker 2: rather if they have a dollar in their hand, they

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Speaker 2: fret much more over losing that dollar than they do

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Speaker 2: think about how to double that dollar. General public right,

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Speaker 2: So a lot of people consider whatever a stock price

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Speaker 2: is to be a referendum on at that particular moment

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Speaker 2: in time, their overall value. The reality is, unless you

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Speaker 2: to whatever your stock prices are. Buck This is why

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Speaker 2: I think for a lot of people's stocks are poor choice,

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Speaker 2: because the emotion gets the better of them. Think about

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Speaker 2: it in terms. Think about it in terms of your

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Speaker 2: overall house. You own a home, I own a home.

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Speaker 2: I bet a lot of you out there have mortgages.

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Speaker 2: Your house price is constantly fluctuating based on what interest

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Speaker 2: rates are, based on what mortgage rates are. Heck, based

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Speaker 2: on your overall neighborhood. Most people don't obsess over the

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Speaker 2: daily fluctuation in the value of their house. If you

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Speaker 2: think about that from a stock perspective, you know, buying

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Speaker 2: I wish people thought about stocks more like they do.

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Speaker 2: Homes would be my general province of advice.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is what Warren Buffett said about people lacking

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Speaker 1: the emotional stability to own stocks, because he says that

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Speaker 1: the day to day price, you know, you can't get

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Speaker 1: point out about about houses. But here's here's his ic clay.

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Speaker 1: As long as this stock thing does not create an

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Speaker 1: economic contagion into the broader economy, and just to be clear,

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Speaker 1: that can happen. Okay, it's not just I don't own stocks,

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Speaker 1: a little bit the people take it a little too

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Speaker 1: far on both sides. There are people that say that

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Speaker 1: the tariffs like they've brought the market down and it's

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Speaker 1: all falling apart. That's not true. But there are also

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Speaker 1: people who suggest, well, I don't own stock, so why

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Speaker 1: that's where you get into things like, you know, you

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Speaker 1: can get into the possibility of our real recession, reduced hiring,

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Speaker 1: I don't don't see any of that because of a

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Speaker 1: few things. One is I still never get a good

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Speaker 1: answer as to why do all these countries have tariffs

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Speaker 1: but we don't have tariffs, and we've just somehow figured

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Speaker 1: out something that they haven't. Really Now, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that there aren't trade offs. Our price is going to rise, right,

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Speaker 1: Probably the last time with the China stuff whenmember they

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Speaker 1: were talking about a trade Warclay back in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen Trump's first term, and as Trump has been

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Speaker 1: pointing out, I think this is a very important point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: price of goods overall on average from China rise point

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Speaker 1: But I never get an answer as to why they

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Speaker 1: this on a on a very fundamental, not even economic,

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Speaker 1: a very fundamental philosophical level. If we want momentous change,

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Speaker 1: we have to change things momentously. If you want something

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Speaker 1: that Trump has proven time and again. I think this

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Speaker 1: has flouted the consensus over and over again. Why should

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Speaker 2: And also, I have a lot less faith in experts now,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, like economic experts get almost everything wrong.

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Speaker 2: In the wake of COVID, when all of these same

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Speaker 2: give people money, There'll be no consequences, Well there were.

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Speaker 2: Inflation went to nine percent, and let me hit you on.

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Speaker 2: I do think this is important. On price of goods

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Speaker 2: It's going to go under three dollars in most parts

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Speaker 1: Okay, I get it.

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Speaker 2: The average I'm telling you right now, based on the

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Speaker 2: That's going to be the lowest we've had gas prices

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Speaker 2: To a large extent, grocery prices are coming down. Price

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Speaker 2: beggs down about fifty percent, back to in some way

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Speaker 2: a normalizing number. The reflections that I have seen of

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Speaker 2: of cost of groceries is not very substantial. Price of

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Speaker 2: gas comes down, so I think again, my best advice

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Speaker 2: is I just went on Pierce, you'll like this buck.

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Speaker 2: I'll echo it here too. I told Pierce Morgan, Hey,

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Speaker 2: in eighteen months, if inflation is up and the stock

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Speaker 2: elected in November, then I will go on and I

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Speaker 2: will wear a clown nose on your show. I feel

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Speaker 2: good about eighteen months from now, Buck, you get Bucks

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Speaker 2: See tariff battle continues. We have talked quite a lot

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Speaker 1: savings through policy. You see what's gone on now, you

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Speaker 1: can't do that anymore. You're just losing money in a

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Speaker 1: savings account because of inflation in recent years. And you

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Speaker 1: look at the S and P five hundred, right, which

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Speaker 1: is this basket of five hundred companies, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people will invest in it. And this is what

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Speaker 1: really was what really moves the market. Clay it had

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Speaker 1: a twenty five percent gain in twenty twenty four and

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Speaker 1: a twenty six percent gain in twenty twenty three. This

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Speaker 1: is not based on real productivity. It's not possible all

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Speaker 1: the five hundred American companies didn't become thirty percent more

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Speaker 1: productive or efficient roughly in twenty twenty three or twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. This is all financial alchemy. This is the

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Speaker 1: political system determining that it's easier to anesthetize people at

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Speaker 1: the top with cheap money and to make everyone think

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Speaker 1: the market's better than it is than to look at

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Speaker 1: the reality of we have been on a binge and

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Speaker 1: we need to go on a diet totally.

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Speaker 2: And again, I just think you need to understand where

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Speaker 2: the attacks come from and comprehend that this is about

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Speaker 2: coming after Trump aggressively let me just say this too,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to continue to talk about it. Trump

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Speaker 2: didn't have to try any of this. He could have

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Speaker 2: come into office and done what most presidents do, which

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Speaker 2: is kind of trim around the edges a little bit,

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Speaker 2: not really change any of the trajectory at all. He

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Speaker 2: is trying to make decisions that will be to fit

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Speaker 2: Americans long after his political career is over. He's trying

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Speaker 2: to completely change the way that our trade deals are constructed,

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Speaker 2: the way that we handle border security, and balance the budget.

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Speaker 2: All in the space of roughly one hundred days. He

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Speaker 2: has aggressively taken this on. So again, on a day

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Speaker 2: to day basis, I think a lot of you are

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Speaker 2: market tracking day to day, if you follow it over

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Speaker 2: six month periods, over one month, one year periods, then

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Speaker 2: the trajectory is going to be eight or nine percent

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Speaker 2: a year. You're going to make eight or nine percent

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Speaker 2: a year. Every ten years, your money's going to double.

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Speaker 2: That's what basically the last hundred years has shown us.

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Speaker 2: So does it happen every ten years? Is your money double?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: Does every year your money go up eight or nine percent? No?

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Speaker 2: But I do think that if you want to make

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Speaker 2: good decisions going forward, you should be in the stock market.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where else you're going to put your money. Candidly,

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Speaker 2: and for those of you out there that are not

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Speaker 2: invested in the stock market, buck, I thought you, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of laid it out that you are going to

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Speaker 2: be impacted in some way based on the long term

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Speaker 2: trajectory of the stock market, because that's how jobs are created.

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Speaker 2: Unless you're a government employee and you never have to

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Speaker 2: worry about anything other than the depths of you know,

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Speaker 2: enough to pay your salary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or elon finding out that you do nothing all day.

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Speaker 1: That's also that's a new thing. Look, if you if

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Speaker 1: you take a company, just take a company. Way all

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Speaker 1: know you take Disney, and I know that we all

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Speaker 1: like to beat up on Disney, and Disney deserves it.

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Speaker 1: But just for way of our example here, if the

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Speaker 1: Disney stock plummets, Disney is then going to have is

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Speaker 1: then going to make determinations based upon its stock price.

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Speaker 1: It's probably going to make cuts because it's going to

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Speaker 1: try to create more cash flow for the market. And

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Speaker 1: as it makes those, it's going to fire people. And

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Speaker 1: it's you know, you see, there's this cascading effect where

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Speaker 1: the market is an indicator of other things that matters

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Speaker 1: to people. Job losses matters to all of us, right,

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Speaker 1: unemployment number matters to all of us. And you know,

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Speaker 1: so there's going to be a little bit of watching

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Speaker 1: that that needs to happen here. But Clay, you brought

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Speaker 1: up the price of gas. The price of oil. Remember

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Speaker 1: petroleum is fifty percent goes into gas, gasoline and you

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Speaker 1: know transport in that way. The rest of it goes

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Speaker 1: into products and that is reflected in the overall price

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Speaker 1: that you pay for everything all the time. So dropping

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Speaker 1: price of gasoline can also be very very helpful in

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Speaker 1: all of this. You know, look, as I keep saying

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Speaker 1: arguing about whether Trump should do this or not, I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of people, Clay saying that is really

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Speaker 1: a fool's errand because Trump is doing it, he's earned

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Speaker 1: the right to take this gamble. He owns this, it's

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Speaker 1: his gamble, and I think we're going to see that

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Speaker 1: it goes very well. And because of the system we have.

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Speaker 1: If for some reason Trump is wrong, and that's that,

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Speaker 1: and we see that, as Claya said, in eighteen months,

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Speaker 1: if the economy is in a really truly in a

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Speaker 1: bad spot, Democrats are going to absolutely annihilate us in

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Speaker 1: the midterms and you're gonna have a very competitive next

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Speaker 1: presidential election period. So this is this is where we are, right.

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Speaker 1: I feel like everyone just just ride with it, roll

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Speaker 1: with it. This is what's going to happen, and there

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Speaker 1: can be moderation and or, you know, modifications made. This

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Speaker 1: whole system, the whole approach, Clay is built on possible modification.

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Speaker 1: That's why you have fifty countries that have come for

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Speaker 1: people act like what it is now is supposed to

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Speaker 1: be what it is in thirty days. No, does anyone

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Speaker 1: understand that China is engaged in its own brinksmanship too.

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Speaker 1: They're saying, oh, they see the pressure that Trump is

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Speaker 1: under from some people from some quarters right now, so

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Speaker 1: they go, you know, what, We're gonna raise our tariffs

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Speaker 1: on you substantially. We're gonna double down on this. Trump's

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Speaker 1: gonna back You think Trump is going to back down

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Speaker 1: at that point, you know, you think Trump is the

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Speaker 1: guy at the negotiating table when you play hardball, he goes,

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Speaker 1: you know, probably I don't like hardball. I just want

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Speaker 1: to be friends. No, clearly not so.

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Speaker 2: I love all of this in the context of we're

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Speaker 2: basically now because of Trump buck Like for right now,

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Speaker 2: we're CNBC and we're Fox Business. Everybody objectively cares about

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Speaker 2: where the stock market is on a day to day

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Speaker 2: basis right now obsessively because they want to attack Trump

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Speaker 2: for it. But it is really hysterical that they were saying,

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Speaker 2: you know, this signal controversy, I don't know how Trump's

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Speaker 2: going to shake this. This goes to the heart and

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Speaker 2: core of his administration. There isn't a single story anywhere

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Speaker 2: about the signal story. And I think ultimately Trump understands media,

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Speaker 2: and he understands story better than any of the people

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Speaker 2: trying to criticize him in media, and that's ultimately his

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Speaker 2: gift that is over and above everybody else. He knows

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Speaker 2: how much of the narrative arc is total bs.

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Speaker 1: You know something else that I'll throw out there. If

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Speaker 1: Trump just tried to run some establishment GOP presidency, now,

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Speaker 1: it would be a betrayal of what he promised his

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Speaker 1: voters during the campaign and be a trail of a

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Speaker 1: betrayal of what Trump says that he wants to do

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Speaker 1: and believes in. So if you just let things happen

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Speaker 1: as they're happening, if he didn't do doge, if he

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Speaker 1: didn't shut down the border, and if he didn't try

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Speaker 1: this trade gambit, well you know what, he's going to

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Speaker 1: do a little tax cut. You could get that from

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Speaker 1: a Bush administration. Right. We voted for disruption. Let's look

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Speaker 1: at the disruption. You know, you vote for somebody to

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Speaker 1: shake things up. Don't complain when it's shaken. And that's

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Speaker 1: where we are right now. Lean into it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's all gonna be fine. And if not, clan are

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Speaker 1: gonna wearing clown noses on the radio shows you're signed

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Speaker 1: on with me now, well, not on Peers's show, that's

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Speaker 1: your thing. But yeah, months shown twenty twenty six, we

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Speaker 1: will wear You'll wear a clown nose with me on

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Speaker 1: the show. I mean I can't, dude, you're you know,

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Speaker 1: can't let wingman wear a clown nose without me. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is like you know, this is you know if

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Speaker 1: if I just I think I might have to follow

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Speaker 1: you on this one. All right, look, this is this

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Speaker 1: is a transition, is something serious. But as you know,

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Speaker 1: if you are going to carry a firearm to defend yourself,

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Speaker 1: you have to be prepared to make that very important decision.

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Speaker 1: I can still carry down here in South Florida, and

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Speaker 1: I've been in places abroad where I've carried weapons to

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Speaker 1: defend myself for the government. And if you're going to

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Speaker 1: defend yourself, it's a big decision. But guess what, you

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Speaker 1: need to also prepare for the consequences of that decision.

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Speaker 1: And you really need to do this, and you need

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Speaker 1: to take action now because you can end up in

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Speaker 1: court even if you're one hundred percent right. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I know of cases. I know of people who have

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Speaker 1: ended up because they defended themselves with a firearm. They

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Speaker 1: Had to defend themselves. So it's not about just what

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Speaker 1: you did, it's how it's interpreted. It's the politics in

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Speaker 1: that county. This is why you need to become a

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Speaker 1: member of the USCCA. Clay and I are both members.

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Speaker 1: I conceal carry. Clay is a lawyer. We comment this

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Speaker 1: from two sides. All of you who own a firearm

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Speaker 2: It's official Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show.

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Speaker 2: We have not talked I don't think on the program

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Speaker 2: about an awful story that happened in Texas. A seventeen

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Speaker 2: year old I believe high school kid in Texas was

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Speaker 2: stabbed in the heart by a suspect, a guy named

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Speaker 2: Carmelo Anthony, not the basketball player for those of you

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Speaker 2: out there, seventeen year old also Texas kid. There was

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Speaker 2: a dispute over where this seventeen year old should be sitting,

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Speaker 2: the murder had a knife in his bag, said hey,

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Speaker 2: if you tell me where to go, he was sitting

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Speaker 2: in the wrong area, there will be basically consequences. The

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Speaker 2: in the wrong place, and the Carmelo Anthony kid stands

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Speaker 2: up and stabs the seventeen year old in the heart

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Speaker 2: his twin brother. I mean, it is an awful story,

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Speaker 2: and not surprisingly, it has gotten attention to a large

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Speaker 2: extent only on right wing media because it is and

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Speaker 2: I say right wing media, it is a story that

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Speaker 2: is uncomfortable for much left wing media because the kid

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Speaker 2: kid that did the stabbing was a black kid. Now,

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Speaker 2: this happened in Frisco, for those of you who are

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Speaker 2: not familiar. That's about thirty miles north of Dallas. And

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Speaker 2: the individual who was stabbed to death Austin Metcalf. He

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Speaker 2: was an eleventh grader at Memorial High School in that area. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I've got Buck seventeen, fourteen, ten year old, So anytime

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Speaker 2: I see a story like this, it makes me sick

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Speaker 2: to my stomach. My son is the same age as

649
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 2: my oldest, is the same age as this kid who

650
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: was both stabbed and also the stabber. The reason we're

651
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: talking about it is there is a GoFundMe page that

652
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: has been created for the Carmelo Anthony, the individual that

653
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: is accused of stabbing this young kid to death, and

654
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 2: it is raised one hundred and sixty thousand dollars. I

655
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: believe Buck you may have it open in front of

656
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: you right now. Why I think this is interesting and

657
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: I want to get your reaction to it. First of all,

658
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: it's awful, and this is emblematic, unfortunately, of what happens

659
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: with young people when it comes to violence in America today.

660
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: Relatively inconsequential issues are leading to death and this is

661
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: a snapshot of what happens all over the country.

662
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: And there's more than that too. I mean, there's a

663
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: lot of conversation now around because this this for something

664
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: like this to happen at a high school athletic event

665
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: over who's sitting in what section? Yes, there's no, there's

666
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: no okay, there's a lot to be said here. One

667
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: is that people are pointing out, why is it that

668
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 1: half the murders in this country are committed by black

669
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: men age sixteen to forty And we're not allowed to

670
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: have that. That's just the way that the statistics are, right,

671
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: That's part of the conversation, why is there such a disproportion?

672
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: And we can get into all that conversation, but you

673
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: should be able to say that out loud without people

674
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: gasping and saying, how dare you say that? That's just

675
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: a fact. It's just a fact. So why is one

676
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: part of the American community committing such a disproportionate share

677
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: of the violence? Now generally, as I also know these statistics,

678
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: the black community, when there is violence, it's men. It's

679
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: not talk about women, black men, it's against other black men. However,

680
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: when we look at interracial violence, it is also wildly

681
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: disproportionately the case that there will be black violence against

682
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: a non black individual than a non black individual committing

683
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: violence against a black person. So this is what the

684
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: conversation online has That was initially where it turned. That

685
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: was what it turned into, you know. Matt Walsh asked

686
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: this question, got over the Daily Wire, got a lot

687
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: of heat from people just saying, look, why are we

688
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: ever allowed to say that maybe that this there should

689
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: be some way to what culturally socially to address this

690
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: probam this this issue, this disparity, Okay, disparity in other

691
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: ways we can talk about all day long, right, disparity

692
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: in household income. How do we fix that disparity? Other

693
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: disparities are to be addressed. This disparity is not to

694
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: be talked about.

695
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: And I think, by the way, not only are to

696
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: be addressed are a sign that America is failing, right,

697
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: like the failure to prom gap.

698
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, absolutely, failure is a problem. So now what's happened,

699
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: because the online left has gotten involved, is they're saying, oh,

700
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: it was a case of self defense, just like Kyle Rittenhouse.

701
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: This is what they're this is what they're trying to

702
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 1: they're trying to say, and I think that that has

703
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: outraged a lot of people because, first of all, there

704
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: was I know the father of the boy who is staed

705
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: to death. He is a he is a believing Christian

706
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: and he said I forgive him. And there are a

707
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: lot of people that are saying, I don't want to

708
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: get into that. I didn't just lose a child. I'm

709
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: not going to criticize somebody who did. I would not

710
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: personally be saying that I forgave anyone. I would be

711
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: wondering if I could be the one that threw the

712
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: switch on the electric chair. But put that aside, I'm

713
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: a different person that person, and I didn't just lose

714
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: a family member, a son. Okay, self defense for this claim.

715
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that the Left is so unfamiliar with this

716
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: is interesting. Clay, just like with firearms, is a tremendous

717
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: disparity politically and culturally between the left and the right

718
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 1: when it comes to issues. When it comes to self defense,

719
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 1: they have no idea. Just like they don't understand anything

720
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: about law enforcement, they have a very superficial and generally

721
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: idiotic view of it. They don't understand that. For example,

722
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: if somebody walks up to my car and they say,

723
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: you know, hey, give me all your money, or I'm

724
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: going to kill you. You know, I'm gonna shoot you.

725
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: Have a gun in my pocket in Florida, if I

726
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: drew down on them, and if people believe that that

727
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: threat was there, that that's what was said, maybe this

728
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: is on video or whatever. People believe that my life

729
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: is in danger, I am justified. If somebody walk off

730
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: to my car and like, hey, you drive like a jerk,

731
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: and I pulled out my gun and I shot them,

732
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm a murderer. I'm going in to prison as I should. Right.

733
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: Self defense is not we are in an argument, I'm

734
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: going to kill you. That's not self defense. And that's

735
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: what happened with this individual quite clearly. Okay, we're arguing

736
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: over a chair, you know, unless he believed he was

737
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: in fear of he stanned this kid in the heart. Yeah.

738
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: The other part of this too, try it. That's I'm

739
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: killing you. Okay, anybody with a knife nose, you know,

740
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: you could slash I'm not saying do this. I'm know

741
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: if you slash somebody in the face, you slash them

742
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: in the arm, you slash them in the stomach, you're

743
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: gonna get you know, they're gonna run away and be like,

744
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're gonna want to not deal with

745
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: you anymore. Right, stab him in the heart, to kill him.

746
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: And now people on the left are saying, and there

747
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: are some prominent you know, some prominent commentator type, not prominent,

748
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: but some commentator types are saying this too. It's self defense.

749
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 1: And it's people are taking it as a real slap

750
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: in the face because instead of the conversation about why

751
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: would somebody resort to lethal violence in this circumstance against

752
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: a high school peer with no real provocation, it's yeah,

753
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: with self defense, you know what I mean. It's really

754
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: the left spitting on the grave of this kid.

755
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 2: Not only that go Fundme has a policy where they

756
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: did not allow Kyle Rittenhouse to raise money. In fact,

757
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: they shut down any attempt to raise money for him

758
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: to be able to defend himself. And in general, I

759
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: think their policy is these fundraisers aren't allowed because, for instance,

760
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 2: a guy like Luigi Mangioni buck would probably sadly raise

761
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: millions of dollars for his legal defense if they had

762
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: to go fund me up for him.

763
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: Go fund me being a bunch of being run by

764
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: a bunch of left wing communists, I mean, this is unfortunately,

765
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: this is just the deal. This is why a lot

766
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: of people don't like gofund me because it's a left

767
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: wing entity and they do this. It's a private entity,

768
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: they're allowed to make their own it's like a social

769
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: media company, right, which we saw with all of them

770
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: for a long time. Completely arbitrary, not I shouldn't say

771
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: arbitrarily in partisan and and very intentional fashion. Are hurting

772
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: one side to benefit the other. So I mean go

773
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: fund me falls into that category as well. But the

774
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: claim that now this ties in because the claim of

775
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: self defense. You can see that people are believing this

776
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: because they're giving money on the GoFundMe. So now you

777
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: have people that are hearing this story who are saying,

778
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: I want to support this kid who stabbed this other

779
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: kid in the heart in front of his dad and

780
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: his brother because he said, you're not supposed to be

781
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: seated in this section. You know, this is this is appalling.

782
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: I mean, to your point about Luigi MANGIONI, people are

783
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: really rightly upset at this. What American wants, What America

784
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: well wants an innocent question? There isn't it? What American

785
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: believes this story that this kid actually thought a who

786
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: had the knife, who had the weapon, the kid who

787
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: killed him? How could he have been how could he

788
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: have been in a position where he thought he was

789
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: under threat of extreme violence and or threat of his life.

790
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: He didn't, as Kitchen go to prison the rest of

791
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: his life. This is not a hard case. I think

792
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: that's right.

793
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 2: I think it also speaks to masculinity and crisis because

794
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: to your point, yes, sixteen to forty year old black

795
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: men commit over half of all murders in this country,

796
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: which is a staggering perspective stat considering that sixteen to

797
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 2: forty year old black men probably represent what do you think,

798
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: three percent of the overall United States population? Five percent

799
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: at most. I mean, it's a tiny percentage of the

800
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: overall population, and they represent over half of all murders.

801
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 1: And it's even more disconcerting you look in a place

802
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: like New York City, where on a per capita basis,

803
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: the poorest ethnicity in New York City is when you

804
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: include the Asian immigrant population. There's a lot of very

805
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: poor Asians, whether South Asian or East Asian and New

806
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: York City Clay who commit effectively no violent crime, yeah

807
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: almost none. So they're poor, but they don't kill anybody.

808
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: And you know, the these are the converse, and people

809
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: want to say, okay, well, what's going on here? Clearly

810
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: there is a pernicious cultural and and you know, family

811
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: destruction influence in some communities that makes the propensity for

812
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: violence as a result of those cultural issues likelier. And

813
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: instead of addressing it, when now we have people saying, oh, well,

814
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: let's you know, let's talk about this as a self

815
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: defense case. No serious person thinks this is a self

816
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: defense case.

817
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: I think a large degree which you would see is

818
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: that the overwhelming amount of violent crime is committed in

819
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: fatherless households across racial groups. That is, absence of men,

820
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: absence of dads, leads young men to be far more

821
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 2: likely to be violent. And I don't think that's coincidental.

822
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: The other part of this is, and you hit on it.

823
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 2: If this had been two black kids, exact same story,

824
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: nobody would have heard about it because young black male

825
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: violence against other young black males is so common that

826
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 2: it virtually makes no news at all. And this is why,

827
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: and I'm writing in this new book that I'm writing, Buck,

828
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 2: it's been so unfortunate that we have demonized police because

829
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 2: if you look at the data, there are I believe

830
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: that the data reflects this is true, thousands and thousands

831
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: of young black men who are dead because police weren't

832
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: able to do the jobs that they should have been

833
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 2: able to do in those cities. So everybody who marched BLM,

834
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: everybody who donated money, BLM, all those people walking around

835
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: raising their fists, the actual, most prominent consequence of your rebellion,

836
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: of your protest was thousands more young black men dead.

837
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: And again, Buck, this wouldn't even be a story. If

838
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: this is two young black kids, one stabs the other

839
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: over a dispute about who should be sitting where none

840
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: of us would have heard about it because it happens

841
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: so often. Turning to the numbers here again, just because

842
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: I know that what the left has done for a

843
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: long time. Is they say it's about poverty and lack

844
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 2: of opportunity. Really, twenty four percent of Asians in New

845
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: York City are are in poverty. By New York City's

846
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: own metrics and standards, twenty one percent of the black

847
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: community is in poverty. Ninety percent of the prison in

848
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: New York City, Rykers Island is Black and Latino. It's

849
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: actually ninety percent plus I think some years like ninety

850
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: two to ninety three percent. The Asian percentage of Rikers Island,

851
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 2: despite twenty four percent of them in poverty, is less

852
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: than one percent. So what's going on? This is just

853
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: you know, why are these situations playing out? The way

854
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: you brought up family formation, you bring up culture, culture

855
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: in school, culture and media. These are things that we

856
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: should be able to talk about, but some people don't

857
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: want to talk about them, and instead they'd rather play

858
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: this game of oh, well, this is this national profile case.

859
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: Now is a self defense case, And they say that

860
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: knowing that it's really just meant to antagonize people and

861
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Speaker 2: meant to say, you know, the whole system.

862
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: Is corrupt and you know it's it's it's like an

863
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Speaker 1: OJ verdict situation.

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Speaker 2: I bet if you overlapped Buck, it would be a

865
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Speaker 2: fascinating study. I don't know if anybody's done this in

866
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Speaker 2: recent history. I bet if you overlapped rates of men

867
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Speaker 2: at home for Asian communities versus Black communities in New

868
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Speaker 2: York City, I bet the average Asian community household ninety

869
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Speaker 2: percent dads at home, suggests. I bet the average Black

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Speaker 2: family in New York City dads at home ten percent,

871
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Speaker 2: fifteen percent something, maybe fifteen percent, yeah, but it would

872
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Speaker 2: be I bet the biggest racial dynamic difference between Asian

873
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Speaker 2: and Black anywhere in the country. And I think if

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Speaker 2: you override that kid's behavior, especially young men who were

875
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Speaker 2: talking about Remember women don't commit stab murders very often,

876
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: I bet you would see dad in home decreases the

877
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Speaker 2: overall rate of violence on a level that is staggering.

878
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 2: Would actually be a really interesting conversation that we should

879
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Speaker 2: have that a lot of people won't have, because it

880
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Speaker 2: forces us to have serious conversations about absence of men

881
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Speaker 2: and what father lessonness does to young men across the country.

882
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Speaker 2: When I say you need to protect yourself, interestingly from

883
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Speaker 2: a home intruder, a lot of people's gut reaction is

884
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Speaker 2: that doesn't happen where I live. Maybe it's the case,

885
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Speaker 2: but still all it takes is one time. If you

886
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Speaker 2: want to have pepper spray, if you want to have

887
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Speaker 2: bars on your doors, if you want to just make

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Speaker 2: your home safer than it otherwise would be. I encourage

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Speaker 2: of products. We've got every single one of their products

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Speaker 2: here in the Travis household. Whether it's bars that you

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Speaker 2: put on your doors at night that make it very

893
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Speaker 2: difficult to open those doors, whether it is pepper spray.

894
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Speaker 2: My wife carries around pepper spray. A lot of the

895
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Speaker 2: women probably in your life do as well, and if

896
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Speaker 2: they don't, they should be. And also maybe you want

897
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Speaker 2: maybe it got a lot of guns, but maybe you

898
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Speaker 2: would like to have a non lethal option because kids

899
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Speaker 2: are coming in and out of your house at all hours.

900
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: I know in the Travis housel we got teenage boys.

901
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: They are in and out of the house all the time.

902
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: They make a lot of noise. Sometimes they set off

903
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Speaker 2: the alarms because go figure, they don't come in like

904
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Speaker 2: you would expect them to.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's gonna wake you up in the middle of

906
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Speaker 1: the night.

907
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Speaker 2: You want to be able to protect yourself, but you

908
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Speaker 2: don't want to do it in a lethal manner because

909
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 2: you know you got teenagers coming in at all hours.

910
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Speaker 2: That's a perfect example of why you would want to

911
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Speaker 2: check out the pepper spray launcher from Saber right now.

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Speaker 1: Two guys, walk up to a mic. Anything goes.

922
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Speaker 4: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free

923
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Speaker 4: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

924
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Speaker 1: I feel like play's the guy on the stock market

925
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: floor today. I'm like, Clay, tell us what's going on

926
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Speaker 1: down there on the floor of the exchange. There's all

927
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Speaker 1: the people running around by, So what's the latest.

928
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Speaker 2: The S ANDB five hundred is up for the day,

929
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Speaker 2: the up as we speak right now by around point

930
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Speaker 2: four percent, and the Dow is down about one hundred

931
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: and forty points, So a bit of a split verdict

932
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Speaker 2: there SMP five hundred. Obviously the five hundred largest companies

933
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: the better approximator of the markets move in general. Meanwhile,

934
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Speaker 2: the Dow Jones only thirty companies involved in the Dow

935
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Speaker 2: Jones Industrial Index. But basically a day where not much

936
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Speaker 2: has happened after actually a lot has happened in terms

937
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Speaker 2: of fluctuation. But the end result as we speak to

938
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Speaker 2: you with a couple of hours left of trading, is

939
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Speaker 2: that Monday has not been a very very crazy outcome

940
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Speaker 2: so far relative to the moves that we saw on

941
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Speaker 2: Thursday and Friday.

942
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Speaker 1: No one's going to call this Black Monday, the day

943
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Speaker 1: that the stock market was destroyed forever or something. You know,

944
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: It's all gonna be okay. You know.

945
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 2: I think what it suggests buck for people out there

946
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 2: is the market was got an unexpected outcome. Trump was

947
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: more aggressive on trade than they anticipated on Wednesday, so

948
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Speaker 2: called Liberation Day. Thursday and Friday, the stock market changed

949
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: went down quite a lot. Now on Monday, people have

950
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Speaker 2: digested it they've said, Okay, we've gotten used to what happened.

951
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 2: The predictions, as predictions often are, that Monday would be

952
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Speaker 2: a cataclysmic day for US. Stocks have as we speak

953
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: to you with two hours less left in trading, not

954
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Speaker 2: proven true. And again stock prices are basically the same

955
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Speaker 2: as where they were a year ago. In the larger context,

956
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Speaker 2: it was.

957
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: On October twenty fourth, nineteen twenty nine that Black Thursday occurred,

958
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: and that was the the great crash and the one

959
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: that people always refer to. So black, that's Black Thursday,

960
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: October twenty fourth, nineteen twenty nine. This is not that,

961
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Speaker 1: And people can just relax a little bit. It's gonna

962
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: be okay, it's gonna be all right. Trump is dedicated

963
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: to this. He bigly knows what the plan is, and

964
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 1: it's just about resetting some things and then it's gonna

965
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: be great. Probably the best economy we've ever seen. Just

966
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: gonna take a little time to get there, all right.

967
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: A couple of updates to some other stories, And I

968
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: want to get to this trans athlete thing more more

969
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: female athletes taking a stand or in some cases, I

970
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: guess taking a knee. But for the right reason, we'll

971
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: get into this. Two things though. One is that we

972
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Speaker 1: were just talking about that stabbing story in Texas Clay

973
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: and it seems that it just broke as we were

974
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: talking about this. I can't say that one led to

975
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Speaker 1: the other. But they've pulled the ghost GoFundMe for the

976
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: and so I guess they are adhering to the criminal

977
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: defense rules. Maybe they got caught though on this one.

978
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: People pointed out, Hey, you say no criminal defense fundraising

979
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: on go fund me, and now that's ended. You have additions.

980
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: One bit of change there is at give send go

981
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: and look team, can you look up the difference on

982
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: what these organizations are.

983
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,919
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if ghosts they're just variations on the sete.

984
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Speaker 1: I think they did the same plat same stuff. Okay,

985
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: so they are allowing their funding to still occur. That

986
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: has raised one hundred and seventy thousand dollars. So the

987
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: main one that is go fund me, which a lot

988
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: of people know has shut down the ability to raise money.

989
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: What I am seeing on give sind go is that

990
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 1: that has still been allowed to happen, and that there

991
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: has been one hundred and seventy thousand dollars raised on

992
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: that platform. The reason why I say give sind go.

993
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: They are a bunch different of these companies that compete

994
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: against each other. And so I don't know if this

995
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: is quote unquote a left winging site or what their

996
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: orders of fundraising rules of fundraising are, but they have

997
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: raised over one hundred and seventy thousand for this alleged

998
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: stabber there. And just to bring this one full circle too,

999
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: while somebody was out hitting three hundred yard drives with

1000
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: the celebrities last week in the sunshine, having a great

1001
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: old time, I was here taking grenades in the trenches

1002
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: solo on that McDonald's dad who left the dad at

1003
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: McDonald's who left his kids, And then we were all wet.

1004
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: We just went on the news story and we said

1005
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: we needed more facts, and some of you were very

1006
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: skeptical even to the facts initially. And it turned out

1007
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: he wasn't then a job interview. It was ninety minutes

1008
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: and they pulled his GoFundMe and actually refunded everybody their money.

1009
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: So he was not allowed to profit from that one either.

1010
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: So these sites have gotten a little bit more, a

1011
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: little more dialed in, a little savvy or on what's

1012
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 1: going on. But so yeah, on that one. You know, man,

1013
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's interesting, isn't it. He clearly knew

1014
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: that saying I was going for a job interview, there'd

1015
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: be a lot of people that there would be sympathy

1016
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: for his position. Now when you hear he just left

1017
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: the kids there, and then the mother of the kids

1018
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: was called to the scene and she was furious about it,

1019
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: like this guy messed up right, and the cop did

1020
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: not mess up? Who was there? The cops handled this perfectly,

1021
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: we did, say, I said at the time, just to

1022
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: be clear, I was like, I do not blame the

1023
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: cops at all. We need to know exactly what's going

1024
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: on here. And so we did not jump to blame

1025
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: police on this one for anything and even poor judgment call.

1026
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: But we updated that story. And yeah, see we're not MSNBC.

1027
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: When a story goes the way, you know, when a

1028
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: story goes in the other direction from how it might

1029
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: have been trending, we don't go, oh, let's just move

1030
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: on to something else. Clay, you want to talk about

1031
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: the trans stuff now for second, let's do this is

1032
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 1: a let's dive into this, shall we. Here you have

1033
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: John Oliver of last week tonight, John Oliver. He talks

1034
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: like this all the time, and people on the left

1035
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: think that that must make him smart. It does not,

1036
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: in fact, and he doesn't really know anything. And it's

1037
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: shocking that well, and I shouldn't say shocking, but it's

1038
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: just preposterous that Max still gives this guy the platform

1039
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 1: that they do. But he's now joined Neil deGrasse Tyson,

1040
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: who did this on the Bill Mahershow. He has joined

1041
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: the other celebrities of the left who say there is

1042
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: no advantage that men do not have an advantage over

1043
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: women in sports play sixteen, we.

1044
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 5: Expect a certain amount of difference in athletics. Taller basketball

1045
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 5: players are expected to compete against shorter ones, Faster soccer

1046
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 5: players compete against slow ones. Michael Phelps was allowed to

1047
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 5: compete with other swimmers despite being part dolphin. And crucially,

1048
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 5: none of the studies I've mentioned so far bear much

1049
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 5: relevance to what these new laws target, which is youth

1050
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 5: sports usually of all ages, and the research there is

1051
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 5: even more scant. We have no research about how being

1052
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 5: trans or undergoing gender firming treatment impacts athletic performance in teams,

1053
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 5: and when it comes to kids. Before the onset of puberty.

1054
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 5: I'd argue, when you're talking about seven year olds, as

1055
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 5: a practical matter, that's a point where lots of school

1056
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 5: sports are co ed anyway, and a key difference between

1057
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 5: competitors on a field can come down to whether a

1058
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Speaker 5: kid was born in October or April.

1059
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Speaker 2: Okay, forty five minutes on this, and we just played

1060
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 2: you a cut of this. I have coached the little

1061
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Speaker 2: league sports in baseball, basketball, soccer, and football flag football.

1062
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Speaker 2: In many of those leagues there have been young girls

1063
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Speaker 2: who played as well. In fact, I have coached young

1064
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: girls on predominantly boy teams. No one out there is saying, hey,

1065
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: if you are eleven and you want to play boys

1066
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: baseball and you're really good, or you are nine and

1067
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Speaker 2: you want to play boys basketball because you're a really

1068
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: good girls player, that there's anything wrong at all with that,

1069
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Speaker 2: because it is true that before puberty there isn't that

1070
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Speaker 2: much difference in young kids overall athletic ability. In fact,

1071
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Speaker 2: on one of my teams, I think our ten U

1072
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Speaker 2: baseball team, the best player that I coached was a girl.

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Speaker 1: She was fabulous.

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Speaker 2: Guess what testosterone starts to come in when boys hit

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Speaker 2: puberty and as everyone who has coached young boys knows,

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Speaker 2: the team with the most kids with the mustaches is

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Speaker 2: going to be the best when you're like thirteen years old.

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00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: Whoever hits puberty the fastest, it is they are bigger, stronger, faster.

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Speaker 1: It is an over difference testosterone level, especially for young people.

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00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: It almost functions the way that steroids for adults do.

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00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: In fact, professional bodybuilders, they they will say that they

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Speaker 1: I have friends. I am clearly not one, but I

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00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: have friends down in Miami who are because they're everywhere.

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00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: Clay went to the gym down here. He understands this

1085
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: is the most gym obsessed culture in the United States,

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Speaker 1: bar none, no question, South Florida, like I've been, I've

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Speaker 1: been to gym's in Beverly Hills. I grew up in

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Speaker 1: New York City. There is no place that is as

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Speaker 1: obsessed with this stuff as South Florida. And if you run,

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Speaker 1: they call it running tests. If you take exogynous testosterone

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Speaker 1: to a certain level of functions very much in your body,

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Speaker 1: just like steroids do. I mean in terms of muscle growth,

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00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: muscle density, all these sorts of things, and people usually

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00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: take that alongside anabolic steroids and that's how they get

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Speaker 1: so enormously big and muscular. Bring it up because you know,

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Speaker 1: if you have a guy that is taking test is

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00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: taking steroids, and a guy who is not, trust me,

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Speaker 1: you know the difference, and so do they. And if

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Speaker 1: you have a thirteen year old kid whose body has

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Speaker 1: started to release the because of the pituitary gland is

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01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: kicked in and they are releasing the hormones necessary for

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Speaker 1: extra testosterone production, it is a whole different world, right.

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Speaker 1: The kids with the mustaches and they aren't pit hair

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Speaker 1: when you're in the ninth grade, those are the you know,

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Speaker 1: those are the kids that are like dunking, and the

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01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: kids that are maybe a year or two behind that,

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Speaker 1: they still look like they could be singing in the

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Speaker 1: sixth grade choir. It's just reality, totally true, totally true.

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Speaker 2: And the fact that left wingers have decided that the

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Speaker 2: hill they want to die on is there's no difference

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Speaker 2: between men and women when it comes to athletics, and

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Speaker 2: that trans women, which is that is to say, men

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Speaker 2: who are identifying as women. Riley Gaines asked a good question.

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Speaker 2: It's one I've been asking for a long time. If

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Speaker 2: this is true, how come no women who identify as

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Speaker 2: men are dominating in men's sports, right, Like, if.

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Speaker 1: There's if they're so, why have separate sports at all? Correct? Why?

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Speaker 1: I think that's the even most fundamental question period. Why

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Speaker 1: Why have the most you know, why have Why have

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Speaker 1: we separated and segregated sports by gender as long as

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Speaker 1: we have? If what John Oliver says is true, there's

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Speaker 1: no basis for it, just like we should just have points.

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Speaker 2: Everybody should just compete in one organization, men and women.

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Speaker 1: Which is the destruction of women's sports and women's achievement.

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Speaker 1: You would not have a single professional female athlete in

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Speaker 1: any sport whatsoever, period, full stop. You would not have

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Speaker 1: a single D one female athlete, or D three female athlete,

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Speaker 1: or really high school of varsity athlete because the men

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Speaker 1: would get all the spots. So that is reality.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so this is supposedly a super smart show, right,

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01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: filled with people that think they are smarter than you

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Speaker 2: and me and everyone else. And his argument basically boils

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Speaker 2: down to, well, we don't really know if there's any

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Speaker 2: competitive advantage, and therefore men who identify as women should

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Speaker 2: be able to compete in women's sports. And anybody who's

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Speaker 2: arguing otherwise isn't paying attention to the data. They just lie,

1137
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Speaker 2: and they just lie, Blake, and I think it's important

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Speaker 2: to share with you what they are producing. This isn't

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Speaker 2: some off the cuff take. This is a produced, a

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Speaker 2: written and entire segment defined as men who identify as

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Speaker 2: women deserve to play women's sports. And I will reiterate again,

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Speaker 2: no one out there that I've heard I played. When

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01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: I was in the nineteen eighties playing baseball in Goodblitzville, Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: there were girls playing in our league when we were

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Speaker 2: ten or eleven years old. That's been happening for a

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Speaker 2: long time. Talented female athletes who want to compete pre

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Speaker 2: puberty or even are able to compete post puberty. I

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Speaker 2: have no issue with they can't because testosterone is real.

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01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 2: Men are athletically bigger, stronger, and faster than women, which

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Speaker 2: is why we have divided men and women's sports since

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Speaker 2: time immemorials so long as I can remember competition existing.

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Speaker 1: Why have age differences there are? I mean there are

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Speaker 1: six there are sixteen year old there are fourteen year

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Speaker 1: olds who are better at I'll just take a sport

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Speaker 1: I know well, I know fourteen year old I know

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Speaker 1: twelve year olds that have played tennis. You know, I

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Speaker 1: actually played against like when I was a kid, and

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Speaker 1: I got absolutely smoked and destroyed by the way. She

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Speaker 1: was like a top ten Russian thirteen and undergirl, and

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Speaker 1: I was like fifteen, you know, but I was at

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Speaker 1: a tennis academy and we're you know, you just sort

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Speaker 1: of play every absolutely destroyed me by the way. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not a particularly good tennis player, but I'm okay.

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Speaker 1: But I was several years older and this was a girl.

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Speaker 1: But does that mean that then we shouldn't have age

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? If the best twelve year

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Speaker 1: old in the world can beat the best, well, can

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Speaker 1: beat college players, which is true, or at least close

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Speaker 1: to maybe can beat high school players. Not really college

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Speaker 1: players could be high school players, why do we have

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Speaker 1: age segregation in sports?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: See, totally true all these arguments. If it's not always true,

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Speaker 1: they act like it's not true. And this is the

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Speaker 1: fundamental flaw in their entire argument that makes the thing

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Speaker 1: just laughable and absurd. But they're staying on you know what,

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Speaker 1: I think, good, stay on this one. We will continue

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Speaker 1: to make them eat their cooking on this We're going

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Speaker 1: to continue to make them asleep in the bed that

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