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Speaker 1: Welcome in Thanksgiving Eve edition of The Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Buck with his family already, as I

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Speaker 1: am sure many of you are all over this fabulous

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Speaker 1: we are thankful to all of you, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a fun show throughout the course of this Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Governor Chris Christy of New Jersey will join us in

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Speaker 1: the third hour of the program. He is the only

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Speaker 1: to be able to interact with a bunch of you.

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Speaker 1: Phone lines will be open. We're gonna treat this like

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Speaker 1: a Friday edition of the program as we often do.

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Speaker 1: Try to take a bunch of your calls. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon will be in on Friday, former candidate for

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Speaker 1: As we are officially now into the holiday season and

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Speaker 1: a lot of interesting topics to get into during the

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Speaker 1: course of today's show. It is the sixtieth anniversary of

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Speaker 1: the assassination of John F. Kennedy. I asked on the

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Speaker 1: poll early this morning when I woke up whether or

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Speaker 1: not you all believe that JFK was actually killed by

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Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald or whether someone else was involved in

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Speaker 1: that shooting. I mean, the shooting itself, not potentially a

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Speaker 1: larger conspiracy surrounding it. Overwhelming majorities of you, fifteen thousand

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Speaker 1: of you, I'll retweet that poll right now voted this morning.

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Speaker 1: In that poll for the sixtieth anniversary, eighty two percent

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Speaker 1: of you say that you do not believe Lee Harvey

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Speaker 1: Oswald was the sole shooter that day responsible for killing JFK.

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Speaker 1: If you have stories surrounding the JFK assassination, maybe share

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Speaker 1: some of those today sixtieth anniversary. We'll talk a bit

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Speaker 1: more about that throughout the course of the program. But

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Speaker 1: that poll is up again. Fifteen thousand of you have voted.

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Speaker 1: Eighty two percent are saying no, you do not believe

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Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald was the only shooter that day. And

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Speaker 1: I would argue, and I'll circle back to this in

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but I would argue that the combination

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Speaker 1: of the murder of John F. Kennedy and the Vietnam

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Speaker 1: War represented the beginning of Americans not trusting their government.

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Speaker 1: And I think that legacy continues today. And what I

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Speaker 1: would argue is the biggest public policy failure of my life.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't alive during Vietnam. I think it's clearly COVID

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Speaker 1: and the COVID shot and the dates and everything that

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Speaker 1: surrounded that. I think that will for generations to come.

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Speaker 1: Shutting down schools, the lockdowns in general, I think feed

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Speaker 1: further distrust of the United States government. But we'll talk

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Speaker 1: some about it being the sixtieth anniversary of the jfk assassination.

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Speaker 1: There's a good piece in the Wall Street Journal this

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Speaker 1: an article about how the mistakes of nineteen sixty three

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Speaker 1: led to the successes of nineteen eighty one. When Ronald

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Speaker 1: I think if I had been doing this show in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one and I had told you that we

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Speaker 1: think many of you would have disbelieved that. As in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one, when Ronald Reagan was shot, we were

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Speaker 1: coming off of the assassination certainly of John F. Kennedy,

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Speaker 1: and certainly that is a credit to them. But I

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Speaker 1: wanted to start today with a poll that I saw

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Speaker 1: this is from the Real Clear Politics team. If you

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Speaker 1: don't go to Real Clear Politics, they do a fabulous,

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Speaker 1: I think job of distilling a variety of different opinions

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Speaker 1: stronger in his entire political career based on polling than

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Speaker 1: But let me give you a historical context. This is

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Speaker 1: Now we all know what happened a year later in

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Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen election. But Hillary Clinton, that staff can

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Speaker 1: You might be wondering, Okay, what are they going to do?

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Speaker 1: it's true that it's hard to get major political movement

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Speaker 1: Most people are not following politics on an aggressive manner.

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Speaker 1: And I just think this is going to be a

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Speaker 1: But this is Missouri's former senator Claire mccaskell. Remember she

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Speaker 1: on MSNBC Donald Trump is more dangerous than Adolph Hitler.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people have tried to draw similarities between

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Speaker 2: vermin and the drive that those men had towards autocracy

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Speaker 1: going to go back and try to rerun the same

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Speaker 1: And notice what Claire mccaskell actually said there. She actually

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Speaker 1: criticize Trump for not trying to expand boundaries like Putin.

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Speaker 1: I want you to understand how crazy this is getting.

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Speaker 1: Trump is more dangerous because, unlike Vladimir Putin, he's not

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Speaker 1: invading neighboring countries. Trump is more dangerous than Hitler because,

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Speaker 1: unlike Hitler, who created concentration camps and tried to eradicate

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Speaker 1: They are criticizing on MSNBC Trump because he's not motivated

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Speaker 1: more dangerous. I don't think Claire mccaskeal is very smart

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Speaker 1: can we get an open invite to Claire mccaskell to

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Speaker 1: to represent how lost Democrats have become. This woman represented Missouri,

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Speaker 1: It's not like she represented Massachusetts. Think about how lost

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Speaker 1: greatest murder of Jewish people since the Holocaust, they are

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Speaker 1: still trying to trot out that Trump is Hitler analog analogy,

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Speaker 1: and also Trump is Mussolini, but most people don't really,

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Speaker 1: I mean, most people don't even know who Mussolini is.

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Speaker 1: So the Hitler is what they try to stick him with.

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Speaker 1: And yet there's no evidence whatsoever of that. And why

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Speaker 1: does Trump have what I think is a durable lead.

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Speaker 1: He's leading right now in twelve of the fourteen most

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Speaker 1: recent national polls that have come out. Remember Trump won

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Speaker 1: in sixteen despite losing the popular vote. If Trump were

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Speaker 1: The Biden White House is trying to convince you that

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Speaker 1: current economic system that we're facing. And So for a

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Speaker 1: lot of you out there, and I understand you're in

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Speaker 1: the primary season right now and you're fired up. And

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Speaker 1: if you're a DeSantis person, I like Ron DeSantis, I

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Speaker 1: like Nikki Haley. We're gonna have Chris Christy on in

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Speaker 1: these guys in gals would be better than Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: But if you're out there right now and you are

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Speaker 1: fired up, you're not giving Desantus enough credit. You're not

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Speaker 1: giving Nicky Haley enough credit. I hate Trump, Clay, how

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Speaker 1: come you don't how come you don't point out that

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Speaker 1: Trump could never win. I think Trump could win a landslide.

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Speaker 1: If the election were right now this day, Trump would win.

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Speaker 1: I believe over three hundred electoral votes. And I think

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Speaker 1: Nikki Haley would, and Ron DeSantis would and vivek Ramaswami

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Speaker 1: all would. Why Because Biden is the story. It ain't

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Speaker 1: about who the Republicans are gonna pick. My concern is

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Speaker 1: that Trump is not gonna be able to get out

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Speaker 1: of the way. Biden's on fire. My concern is Trump

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Speaker 1: up on fire, and then we're just gonna have a

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Speaker 1: total mess, like when two drunk people fight. You ever

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Speaker 1: watch drunk people fight. You don't have any idea what's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Right Guy's gonna throw a huge haymaker. Biden

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Speaker 1: is super drunk right now, He's just stumbling around. He's

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Speaker 1: He's gonna pull it down, you know, the drunk guy

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Speaker 1: doesn't like stand like a normal person would he so wobbly,

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Speaker 1: he brings his fist all the way from like his foot,

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Speaker 1: and he throws this slow, looping haymaker. And if you

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Speaker 1: have any ability at all to avoid a punch, you

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Speaker 1: gets caught by the drunk guy's punch. That's my concern

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Speaker 1: about what might happen in the Trump Biden fight is

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Speaker 1: Welcome in Now number two Thanksgiving Eve edition Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton show. Buck is already with his family. He'll

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Speaker 1: be back with me on Monday on this program. I

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Speaker 1: hope that all of you who are out and about

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Speaker 1: traveling are managing to do so safely. I flag this

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Speaker 1: in the morning. TSA estimates it'll screen around thirty million

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Speaker 1: passengers over the Thanksgiving holiday, a record fifty five point

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Speaker 1: four million people expected to travel fifty miles or more

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Speaker 1: between tomorrow and Sunday. And let's see, the busiest day

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Speaker 1: so many of you, like me, are going to be

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Speaker 1: are going to be out there working because you work

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Speaker 1: be a best of show tomorrow, I promise. We have

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Speaker 1: had a few decent segments so far this year, and

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Speaker 1: then on Friday, our friend Tutor Dixon, who is a

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Speaker 1: part of the Clay Travis Buck Sexton podcast network, will

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Speaker 1: be in also mentioned this. One of the great benefits

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Speaker 1: of both Buck and i'd being able to do the

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Speaker 1: show is I believe there's only one week all year

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Speaker 1: where you're not gonna hear from one or the other

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Speaker 1: of us. That's unprecedented to my knowledge, on any national

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Speaker 1: radio show anywhere. The only week we're out is Christmas week.

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Speaker 1: We haven't between the two of us, missed a day

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Speaker 1: since July fourth. Now, I'm not claiming this is a

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Speaker 1: super difficult job, but we do take it very seriously

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Speaker 1: and we want to be with you every single day

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Speaker 1: because we think the things that we are talking about

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Speaker 1: here to talk about Thanksgiving, because I know Rush did

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Speaker 1: lot of times Thanksgiving gets lost now in the shuffle

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Speaker 1: between Halloween, which every year seems to get bigger and bigger,

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Speaker 1: and certainly the Christmas and New Year's holiday, and as

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Speaker 1: I hope that on Thanksgiving you will take a moment

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Speaker 1: America or to have become an American. But in particular

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Speaker 1: for those of us who were born here. You ever

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Speaker 1: read history surrounding Thanksgiving, how many of you have really

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Speaker 1: thought at this. I heard this and I couldn't get

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Speaker 1: When the Pilgrims arrived here, a squirrel on a tree

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Speaker 1: think about that for a moment. There were so many

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Speaker 1: it to be true. A squirrel could have been on

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Speaker 1: the East Coast and could have walked across the entire

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Speaker 1: United States from tree to tree. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: we talk enough about the ships that these people got

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Speaker 1: These ships were tiny. And whatever risks you are taking

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Speaker 1: to leave behind everyone that you had ever known and

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Speaker 1: something awful might happen to you on that trip to

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Speaker 1: the United States. And by the way, this is true

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Speaker 1: today is far better off than they would have been

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Speaker 1: It's a stat that doesn't get a lot of attention.

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Speaker 1: You know, the poorest Americans, the absolute poorest people in

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Speaker 1: twenty percent wealthiest if they lived in India right now.

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Speaker 1: Our poor people, even if you feel like you don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot to be thankful for, our poor people

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Speaker 1: the top twenty percent wealthiest in all of India. Think

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Speaker 1: come to this new land, a place that was truly wild,

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Speaker 1: any of your friends and family ever again, if you

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Speaker 1: were fortunate enough to make it on the perilous journey

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Speaker 1: to these shores. One of the things that I worry

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Speaker 1: generations left. I'd like to think, what are we teaching

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Speaker 1: risk taking are we trying to embed in their lives.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that troubles me the most about

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Speaker 1: lack the ability to take risk. This is a country

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Speaker 1: yourself what you're risking. It seems to me that America

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Speaker 1: today has a national epidemic of cowardice. Your ancestors were

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Speaker 1: willing to risk their lives to come to this country,

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Speaker 1: grandkids aren't even willing to post what they actually think

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Speaker 1: on social media. Worse than that, they call people they

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Speaker 1: disagree with Nazis. We have moved, in the space of

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Speaker 1: to a place where the great grandchildren of the people

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Speaker 1: who killed and beat and preserve freedom for the world

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Speaker 1: by defeating the Nazis. Now think that they are heroic

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Speaker 1: and courageous because they call people they disagree with Nazis.

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Speaker 1: I just played it for you. You're questioning it, Claire

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Speaker 1: mccaskell on MSNBC. You see it every day happen. Even

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Speaker 1: in the wake of October seventh, when we had the

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Speaker 1: most deadly day in the history of the Jewish people

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Speaker 1: since the Holocaust, people are still running around calling Trump

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Speaker 1: and I tie all this together on Thanksgiving. Yes, we

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Speaker 1: have a tremendous amount to be thankful for. But what

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Speaker 1: are you conserving by taking real risks for your country?

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Speaker 1: What are you putting on the line on a daily basis?

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Speaker 1: What are you actually risking compared to the people who

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Speaker 1: made this country great. It's something that I think we

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Speaker 1: need to have a real national discussion about, and I

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Speaker 1: hope it's something that you will think about when you

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Speaker 1: sit down to celebrate Thanksgiving with your friends and family

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Speaker 1: and recognize the immense and bountiful gratitude that we all

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Speaker 1: should share for being Americans. How much of that is

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Speaker 1: part of our national discourse right now. I'm not super

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Speaker 1: I like to think I'm not super old. I'm middle

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Speaker 1: aged now, I'm forty four. I don't remember in the

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventies and the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties,

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Speaker 1: in the two thousands, I don't remember people hating America.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it existed in my life. And a

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Speaker 1: lot of people now are focused on what's going on

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Speaker 1: on college campuses. But I think that's a failure of

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Speaker 1: the adults. We've allowed kids to be so coddled that

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Speaker 1: they don't even understand what evil is. I been thinking

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Speaker 1: about this a lot, and I think this is an

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Speaker 1: important conversation to have with so many of your families

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Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving. Kids only know what they are taught. If

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Speaker 1: you have convinced a generation of kids that people who

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Speaker 1: have different opinions than them are evil, what scares me

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Speaker 1: is not only are they coddled in averse to risk,

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Speaker 1: they aren't able to see actual evil when it truly exists.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of anything that has occurred that is

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Speaker 1: more evil than October seventh in recent history. Jewish people,

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Speaker 1: just like in the nineteen thirties, were murdered explicitly for

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Speaker 1: being Jewish, and many people cheered it, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people on college campuses did. What does it say

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Speaker 1: about us that our most highly educated in terms of

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Speaker 1: schooling are the least able to recognize true evil. I

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Speaker 1: think it's ominous because remember, without people willing to speak

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Speaker 1: the truth, and without an absence of cowardice, many people

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Speaker 1: are sheep. If you look at what happened with COVID,

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Speaker 1: how many people just went along rather than get acknowledged

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Speaker 1: for not being willing to go along. This is the country,

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Speaker 1: more so than any other, filled with the DNA of

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Speaker 1: people who said, I'm not just going to go along.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to take a risk. I'm going to get

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Speaker 1: on that ship, I'm going to get on that horse,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get in that covered wagon. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to travel across the horizon to something better, something that

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Speaker 1: I can't even see. This entire country was founded on

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Speaker 1: the leap of faith, on the idea that tomorrow could

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Speaker 1: be better, on the willingness to take that risk, on

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Speaker 1: the incredible h helps, dreams, and aspirations upon which this

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Speaker 1: country was founded. What does it say on this Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: when we all have an immense amount to be thankful

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Speaker 1: for that some of the youngest and best educated in

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Speaker 1: this country are unable to recognize both the history of

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Speaker 1: this country, which is proud and upstanding and greater than

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Speaker 1: I believe truly the history of any country in the

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Speaker 1: history of the world. They believe, actually the legacy of

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Speaker 1: America is one that is awful and reprehensible and evil,

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Speaker 1: and as a result, they're willing to support actual evil.

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Speaker 1: It's our fault. We have coddled their minds to such

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Speaker 1: an extent that we have convinced them that words are

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Speaker 1: violence and microaggressions are unacceptable, and as a result, their

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Speaker 1: brains are stilted, unchallenged, and unable to confront the reality

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Speaker 1: of evil. So I hope that all of you out

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Speaker 1: there will be willing to have this conversation with your

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Speaker 1: kids and grandkids, and may get a little uncomfortable. I

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Speaker 1: don't care. It's past time for being nice. At some

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Speaker 1: point you have to confront evil and be willing to

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Speaker 1: have conversations with people who can't see it. Maybe they

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Speaker 1: get a little bit upset with you, Maybe they say, mom, dad, grandma,

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Speaker 1: and grandpa, you don't know what you're talking about. I

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Speaker 1: would submit that if you have lived in this country

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Speaker 1: very long at all, you know a lot more about

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about than anybody who's a college age

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Speaker 1: kid or a high school kid that's trying to defend

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Speaker 1: Hamas's murder of over a thousand innocent Jewish people based

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Speaker 1: entirely on their faith. To hope those are conversations that

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Speaker 1: you'll have, but I hope you'll contextualize them in the

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Speaker 1: larger historical resonance of what is I think the fabric

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Speaker 1: of the world, and one that must continue to embrace

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Speaker 1: risk taking, to embrace actual courage and physical valor, because

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Speaker 1: I don't know that we've ever valued it less than

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing valued right now. Take some of your calls,

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Speaker 1: allow you to react a variety of different subjects. Again, Chris,

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Speaker 1: Christy's going to be with us at the top of

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Speaker 1: the next hour. In the meantime, look, you know, one

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton show,

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Speaker 1: Breaking news for all of you, and I'm assuming Governor

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Speaker 1: Chris Christy, who is joining us right now, has heard

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Speaker 1: this as well. The FBI has put out a statement

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo that they are investigating an explosion at Rainbow Bridge,

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Speaker 1: one of the crossing points from Canada into New York State.

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Speaker 1: I've got audio that I'm going to play for you

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Speaker 1: that has just aired on Fox News. Alexis McAdams, who

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Speaker 1: is at Fox News, says, high level police sources tell

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Speaker 1: me this is an attempted terror attack. Sources say the

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Speaker 1: car was full of explosives and both men inside are dead.

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Speaker 1: This is what just aired on Fox News. I'll let

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Speaker 1: you react to it here momentarily, Governor Christy, because this

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Speaker 1: is all just breaking news. We're just becoming aware of it. Listen.

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Speaker 4: Alexis mccadams is reporting that according to high level police sources,

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Speaker 4: the explosion was an attempted terrorist attack, a lot of

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Speaker 4: it explosives in the vehicle at the time. The two

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Speaker 4: people who were in the car are deceased. One Border

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Speaker 4: Patrol officer was injured driving from the US apparently to Canada,

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Speaker 4: and we're trying to drive towards the CBP building. So

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Speaker 4: all bridges in the area have been closed. All government

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Speaker 4: buildings in the area have been evacuated.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me read the statement from the FBI.

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Speaker 1: The FBI Buffalo Field Office is investigating a vehicle explosion

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Speaker 1: at the Rainbow Bridge, a border crossing between the US

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Speaker 1: and Canada in Niagara Falls. The FBI is coordinating with

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Speaker 1: our local, state, and federal law enforcement partners in this investigation.

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Speaker 1: As this situation is very fluid, that's all we can

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Speaker 1: say at this time. That is the FBI statement on

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Speaker 1: this explosion in Buffalo On. Many of you will be

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Speaker 1: familiar with this, the Rainbow Bridge near Niagara Falls. And

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Speaker 1: remember this comes on the heels of Cale and other

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Speaker 1: New Yorkers telling New York that they had evidence out

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Speaker 1: there that there may be a terror attack and to

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Speaker 1: be on the lookout for this. We bring in now

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Speaker 1: Governor Chris Christy, who prosecuted some of the cases relating

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Speaker 1: to nine to eleven former United States attorney who has

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Speaker 1: dealt with terrorism related charges. I know you're just hearing

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Speaker 1: about this right now as we all are as well.

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Speaker 1: What in your experience, is going on right now, and

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Speaker 1: what should everybody out there listening to us right now,

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Speaker 1: certainly those in Buffalo and the state of New York

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Speaker 1: in particular, be aware of in your mind at this

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Speaker 1: point in time, Well.

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Speaker 6: Guys, First off, I think what the FBI is doing

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Speaker 6: is dispatching their people who can deal with forensic evidence

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Speaker 6: at the scene. That vehicle, everything that's in it, the

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Speaker 6: type of explosives that were used, the type of detonator

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Speaker 6: that was used, and any other information that might be

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Speaker 6: on the two dead terrorists or alledged terrorists now inside

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Speaker 6: that vehicle is everything the forensics folks are going to

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Speaker 6: be working out with the FBI. Second, the FBI is

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Speaker 6: going to be looking at all the information after from

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Speaker 6: their joint Terrorism task forces around the country that work

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Speaker 6: with the US attorney's offices and local law enforcement to

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Speaker 6: see if there are any dots that can be connected there.

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Speaker 6: They're also going to be talking to our intelligence community

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Speaker 6: that works this portion of our country and Canada to

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Speaker 6: see what they're getting there, and that'll be where they'll start.

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Speaker 6: And you know, look, this should not be surprising to

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Speaker 6: any of us, and this is why American my view guys,

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Speaker 6: has to be engaged in the world. We are not

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Speaker 6: on an island here, and when things happen in other

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Speaker 6: parts of the world, there is going to be an

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Speaker 6: impact here in the US potentially. We have to be

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Speaker 6: prepared to deal with it, and we need to be

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Speaker 6: engaged with the rest of the world to try to

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Speaker 6: lessen that threat by showing strength around the world. And

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Speaker 6: the weakness that Joe Biden has been showing is a problem,

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Speaker 6: and it's going to be a problem that's going to

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Speaker 6: continue to create more conflict, not less strength lessons conflict.

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Speaker 6: Weakness increases it.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Governor Chris Christy, So obviously we're going

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Speaker 1: to continue to monitor this situation in Buffalo. Any update

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Speaker 1: staff will hit me with almost in real time, So

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Speaker 1: we'll continue to update you on this in the final

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Speaker 1: hour of the show as we head into Thanksgiving. But

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Speaker 1: you just mentioned the campaign, the situation that's going on there.

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Speaker 1: I looked at national polling coming out basically this morning.

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Speaker 1: This is the National Republican primary from Emerson. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you've seen it. It has you at three percent overall,

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Speaker 1: Trump at sixty four percent, Hailey at nine, DeSantis at

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Speaker 1: eight Ramaswami at five. If you believe that's accurate, do

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Speaker 1: you think you're around three percent nation nationwide right now?

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Speaker 6: Now? I don't think it's accurate. And by the way,

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Speaker 6: I don't think it. We don't have a national primary Stullus.

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Speaker 6: If we had a national primary, then this would be over.

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Speaker 6: We have a primary that goes state by state by state.

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Speaker 6: And if you look at those numbers, Donald Trump is

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Speaker 6: twenty five to thirty points lower than what he is

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Speaker 6: in the national polls, and in New Hampshire, I'm fourteen

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Speaker 6: points higher than what it has to be in the

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Speaker 6: national polls. And those elections in Iowa, New Hampshire, South

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Speaker 6: Carolina are going to happen well before anything else, and

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Speaker 6: there the results there will impact what people think around

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Speaker 6: the country.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Iowa New Hampshire January February, you are doing

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Speaker 1: well in some of those New Hampshire state polls. It's

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Speaker 1: clear you don't want Donald Trump to be president of

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Speaker 1: the United States. If you do not win in Iowa

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire, would you then drop out of the race

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Speaker 1: and endorse someone other than Trump? Is that the natural progression?

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Speaker 1: Is it fair to say you need to win in

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Speaker 1: Iowa New Hampshire or come in a very close second

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Speaker 1: at minimal.

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Speaker 6: Look, I think I need to do well in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 6: That's what I need to do, and that's what I

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Speaker 6: intend to do, and then we'll evaluate the campaign thereafter.

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Speaker 6: But if I do well in New Hampshire, which I

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Speaker 6: expect to do, are going to be in this thing

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Speaker 6: for the long haul.

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Speaker 1: If Trump's the nominee, will you vote for him?

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Speaker 6: You know, guys, I don't think Trump's going to be

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Speaker 6: the nominee, So I don't think we need to worry

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Speaker 6: about that. I think Trump is not going to be

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Speaker 6: the nominee. But what I've said, and I said this

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Speaker 6: in the first debate, if Donald Trump's convicted of felonies,

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Speaker 6: I could not support a convicted felon for president.

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Speaker 1: So who would you vote for? I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: just honestly, because I understand you can say, well, that's

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Speaker 1: a hypothetical, but really the entire presidential campaign is a hypothetical.

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Speaker 1: You say, if I'm elected, I'm going to do X

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Speaker 1: or I'm going to do hy. Right now, if you

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Speaker 1: look at the markets, you know, just gambling markets, look

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Speaker 1: at the polls, whatever else, Trump would be favored to

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Speaker 1: be the nominee. So if it's Trump versus Biden, would

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Speaker 1: you vote for Biden? Would you not show up and vote?

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Speaker 1: What would your decision be?

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Speaker 6: Now? I look, I could not vote for Joe Biden.

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Speaker 6: I don't believe Joe Biden is either mentally or philosophically

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Speaker 6: competent to remain in the presidency. And so I could

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Speaker 6: not vote for Joe Biden. And I'd have to see

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Speaker 6: what my options were at the time. But fellas in

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Speaker 6: the end, what we're talking about here are all hypotheticals

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Speaker 6: because at this point, you know, eight years ago, Jeff

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Speaker 6: Bush was winning New Hampshire and Ben Carson was winning

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Speaker 6: Iowa by ten points. So I'm sorry, you know, I

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Speaker 6: just am not going to get involved in talking about

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Speaker 6: what polling looks like today. You know, those poll questions

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Speaker 6: are saying if the election were held today, Well, if

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Speaker 6: the election were held today, are to be shocked because

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Speaker 6: it's not being held today. So I'm about talking about

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Speaker 6: what matters to this country, It matters to its citizens,

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Speaker 6: and I guarantee a polling isn't one of those things.

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Speaker 1: Understood, you also are running against not only Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: but also Ron de Sants, Nicki Haley, and Vivike Ramaswami.

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Speaker 1: Are any of those three people in your mind qualified

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Speaker 1: to be president of the United States?

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Speaker 6: Look, I think both Niki and Ron are qualified to

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Speaker 6: be president.

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Speaker 1: You didn't mention Vivike. Why do you think he's not?

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Speaker 1: Those are the you know, you guys are the top

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Speaker 1: five candidates at this point in time. So you think

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Speaker 1: Nicki and DeSantis both qualified to be president? Not Trump,

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Speaker 1: not Vivike. What is it about Vivike that you don't

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Speaker 1: think fits the bill?

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Speaker 6: I just don't think he's a serious candidate. I don't

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Speaker 6: think he's someone who has the type of experience, the

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Speaker 6: type of temperament, nor the type of platform that should

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Speaker 6: be taken seriously as a presidential candidate.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's say that you think DeSantis and Nicki

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Speaker 1: Haley are both qualified to be president. I imagine that

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Speaker 1: they would probably say the same about you. I'll ask

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Speaker 1: him the next time they're on the show. If you

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Speaker 1: had to choose between Nicki Haley and Ron DeSantis right

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Speaker 1: now as the most qualified, which of those two is?

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Speaker 6: I think they pretty much have equal qualifications.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's at right answer. You know, you're a sports guy, governor,

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Speaker 1: and that is like me asking you. That's like me

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Speaker 1: saying to you, okay, Patrick Mahomes, or I don't know

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Speaker 1: we could pick. Let's say, if Joe Burrow wasn't injured,

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Speaker 1: which is a better quarterback, if you have to win

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Speaker 1: a game, and you say, oh, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: dead heat, I don't think I could pick. Or if

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Speaker 1: I said, hey, I don't know how much of a

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Speaker 1: college football you fan you are, but if I football,

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Speaker 1: all right, So Michigan and Ohio State are playing this

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Speaker 1: weekend right hues game going on in college football? Who's

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Speaker 1: gonna win?

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Speaker 6: I think Ohio State's going to win? All right.

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Speaker 1: You didn't say to me, I think it's dead even

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Speaker 1: I think it's fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 6: No, But I do think that on a qualifications basis,

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Speaker 6: if you look at their background and experience, that Ron

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Speaker 6: and Nicki are essentially the same from experience perspective, to

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Speaker 6: both two term governors of important states. They've had some

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Speaker 6: other backgrounds Ron and congress Nicky in the state legislature

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Speaker 6: before that. I think from an experience perspective qualifications perspective,

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Speaker 6: they're they're essentially even in that regard. I mean, if

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Speaker 6: you an honest answer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a convenient uh, if you believe,

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Speaker 1: and I think you do, that Trump shouldn't be the nominee.

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Speaker 1: And I think certainly DeSantis and Nicky Haley would agree

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Speaker 1: with that too. At what point does there need to

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Speaker 1: be a consensus alternative in your mind to Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: whether it's you, DeSantis, Nicky Haley, or maybe even the

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Speaker 1: vague what's the timeframe look like?

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Speaker 6: I think it's it's it's gonna happen after the first

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Speaker 6: four primaries, after the early primaries, so Iowa, New Hampshire,

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Speaker 6: South Carolina, Nevada. I think after those you probably be

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Speaker 6: down to no more than three candidates, including Donald Trump,

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Speaker 6: and maybe two. I just think that's gonna kind of

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Speaker 6: be the natural way it will go here, given the

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Speaker 6: way that the calendar plays out. And let's face it, guys,

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Speaker 6: the consolidation in this race has been significant, better than

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Speaker 6: anytime this century when we didn't have an incumbent. You know,

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Speaker 6: at this time eight years ago in twenty fifteen, we

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Speaker 6: had thirteen candidates still in the race. At this point

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Speaker 6: in twenty eleven, we had eight candidates still in the race,

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Speaker 6: and in two thousand and seven we had nine candidates

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Speaker 6: still in the race. So this thing is consolidated very quickly,

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Speaker 6: very well. You know, I'm in the last five. This

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Speaker 6: is the smallest the field's been really since since the

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Speaker 6: turn of the century in two thousand. So I think

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Speaker 6: it's consolidated. Well. I think you have, you know, very

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Speaker 6: serious people that are available to be voted for. Here.

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Speaker 6: I think I'm the best and most experienced person, but

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Speaker 6: the voters are going to decide ultimately who our nominee is.

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Speaker 6: But I'm in for the fight as I have been.

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Speaker 6: And I think, you know, if people had been if

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Speaker 6: I'd been listening to the odds makers, you know, six

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Speaker 6: months ago, I would have never gotten in the race,

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Speaker 6: and certainly they would have never thought that I would

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Speaker 6: have been here six months later. But here I am.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to be on the stage in Tuscaloosa,

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Speaker 1: Alabama speaking of college football the fourth Republican Debate? Have

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Speaker 1: you qualified?

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, already qualified. We've already passed the eighty thousand donors,

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Speaker 6: and we have two national polls at six percent were

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Speaker 6: over and we have obviously a number of poles in

985
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Speaker 6: New Hampshire that have us in the.

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Speaker 1: Teams Dallas Cowboys play tomorrow. They are playing against the

987
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Speaker 1: Washington Commanders. They'll always be the Redskins in my mind,

988
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: so I sometimes mix up the names. Still, yeah you too,

989
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: all right? Are the Cowboys in your mind a legitimate

990
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender this year? And what happens tomorrow?

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Speaker 6: They are a legitimate Super Bowl contender. The NFC has

992
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Speaker 6: really four teams that I think are legitimate contenders, right,

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Speaker 6: The Eagles are a legitimate contender, The forty nine Ers

994
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 6: are a legitimate contender, and I think that the Detroit

995
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Speaker 6: Lyons are actually a legitimate contender the way they're playing

996
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Speaker 6: this year.

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Speaker 1: I agree with all of that. By the way, I

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Speaker 1: agree with your analysis of the NFC right now. I

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Speaker 1: agree with all that. Okay, so Cowboys happened, Yeah, they're

1000
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Speaker 1: a contender.

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Speaker 6: What happens tomorrow, Cowboys? Cowboys win comfortably tomorrow. I'd say

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Speaker 6: Cowboys win by seventeen to twenty one points. Tomorrow will

1003
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Speaker 6: be another good performance for the Cowboys, and they're going

1004
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Speaker 6: to be getting ready for two big games coming up

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Speaker 6: after this, the Seahawks, who are a good team, and

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Speaker 6: then Philadelphia will be coming to Dallas, and that'll be

1007
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Speaker 6: a big game.

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Speaker 1: Good team in the AFC is the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Travis Kelce's performance on the field is

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Speaker 1: being negatively impacted by his relationship with Taylor Swift.

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01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 6: No, I think it's probably positively being impacted, all right.

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Speaker 6: I think I've never seen I've never seen the guy

1013
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Speaker 6: happier in his entire career, So I think he's probably

1014
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Speaker 6: doing really well. I think what effected him on Monday

1015
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Speaker 6: night was the Eagles were triple teaming him. Yeah, and

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Speaker 6: nobody else on the Chiefs can catch a pass. I mean,

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Speaker 6: for God's sake, me and you and everybody else could

1018
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Speaker 6: have caught that pass that about this Scantley drops down

1019
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Speaker 6: the game in the fourth quarter. I mean I could

1020
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Speaker 6: have caught I would I couldn't have gotten that open,

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Speaker 6: but if I was that open, I guarantee I would

1022
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Speaker 6: have caught it.

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Speaker 1: Last question for you, Governor, We're talking to Chris Christy

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Speaker 1: right now on the eve of Thanksgiving, sixtieth anniversary of

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Speaker 1: the JFK assassination. Do you think that Lee Harvey Oswald

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Speaker 1: fired every shot and that JFK was killed solely by

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Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald in terms of shots fired on that

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Speaker 1: day in Dallas.

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Speaker 6: No, I don't and I never have.

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Speaker 1: What do you think happened?

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Speaker 6: It was clearly a conspiracy. I don't know amongst whom,

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Speaker 6: but there's no doubt in my mind that Lee Harvey

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Speaker 6: Oswald did not act alone. And when when Oswald yelled

1034
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Speaker 6: out a Patsy when he was being arrested, I think

1035
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Speaker 6: he was giving us a signal. And I believe Jack

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Speaker 6: Ruby was part of the conspiracy, and I think they

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Speaker 6: killed Oswald to keep him quiet.

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Speaker 1: I agree with everything you just said. I do on

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Speaker 1: the on the I should say on the on the

1040
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Speaker 1: JFK sixty year anniversary analysis.

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Speaker 5: Now I know, I.

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Speaker 1: Know there's no telling what people are going to take you.

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Speaker 1: I take that there, all right, Governor, enjoy the games tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again soon and I'll maybe see

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Speaker 1: you down in Tuscalusa.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on today. Happy Thanksgiving you and

1047
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Speaker 6: your family.

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Speaker 1: Saying to you and yours. That is Governor Chris Christy,

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Speaker 1: who will be on the stage he says, in December

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Speaker 1: down on the fourth Republican Debate. We'll take your calls

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Speaker 1: eight hundred two two eight eight two. I want to

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Speaker 1: circle back around the call that we got about Margaret

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Speaker 1: potentially having a child out of wedlock. A lot of

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Speaker 1: reaction to that is Margaret called staff. Have we gotten

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Speaker 1: a call from Margaret yet? The ladies in the church group,

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Speaker 1: we're not expecting to hear Margaret's out of wedlock JFK story.

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Speaker 1: Get an extra twenty five cents off each gallon of

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Speaker 1: gas on your first tank fill up. When you do,

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Speaker 1: type in Clay and Buck as one word, no spaces

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Speaker 1: between the words. That's Clay and Buck on the Upside

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Speaker 1: app Today

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Speaker 5: Slay Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of

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Speaker 5: Shoes