1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you should know 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. With me is always as 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Charles W. Chuck Bryant. You can call me Rusty. Yeah, 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: no doubt, Chuck. This is the first time in eight 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: or nine years since we've done this. Weeks. Everyone should 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: like years. This is the first one back from my 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: elementary school Christmas vacation. Yeah, it's been weeks. Yeah, it's 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: our first one in two the future. Yes. And I 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: told Josh I'm having re entry problems like I always do. Yes, 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: I like walk to my cube and everything looks strange, 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: and it was like being it's like the first day 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: on the job. He's constipated. Huh yeah, a little bit. Actually, 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: that's what happens when you stay away for too long 16 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: and you wake up, sit up like a stiff as 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: a board, and you're like, I have to work today 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: and poop and how was your good good break? Yeah, 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: it was great. I went to the Isle of Palms 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: and Charleston. It was very nice. It was super cold, 21 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: but it was nice went to Drayton Hall. I don't 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: know what that is. It's the oldest intact preserved plantation 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: of its kind on on the Eastern Seaboard as far 24 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: as I know. You know the difference between a farm 25 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: and a plantation the plants. I'm gonna start two thousand 26 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: ten with the fact plantations only grow one crop. Is 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: that right? That's what I'm told. I would have thought 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: it had to do with the size or something. One crop, 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: farm many crops? Very nice? Is that is farm Latin 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: for many crops? I think. So there's a good fact 31 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: for Mr Charles W. Chuck. Quit while I'm ahead, and 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: we'll check out here. Yeah, we'll give you the email 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: address so you can say congrats, Chuck. We'll give it 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: to you at the end of this podcast, which happens 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: to be on a little something called noodling. Yes, you 36 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: may also know it as hogging, dogging, stumping, hand fishing. 37 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: That's that's yeah, that's a popular one. Actually, that's when 38 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: the city folk call it. And now, actually I was 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: on the YouTube's and they were all all those dudes 40 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: were calling hand fishing. Have you ever done this? No? No, 41 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: nor have I, And um, it doesn't seem like a 42 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: sport that will ever become real popular because it's so 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: thoroughly terrifying. Yes, absolutely, I would never ever do this. 44 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: What we're talking about is, as Chuck said, hand fishing, 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: but it goes by all sorts of colloquialisms. We called 46 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: it noodling in this article on how stuff works dot com. Uh. 47 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: And basically what it is is you stick your hand 48 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: into a underwater catfish nest, which they tend to nest underwater, 49 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: and you're in the water. We should point out you're 50 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: not doing this from a boat, no, um. And you 51 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: get the fish to bite your hand and you pull 52 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: it out and there you've just fished. You've just noodled. Yeah, Yeah, 53 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: that's it. That's pretty much it. Of course, there's all 54 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: sorts of other interesting stuff that surrounds this, which we 55 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: will discuss at length starting now. Right it You know 56 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: what it reminded me of was you saw the eighties 57 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: Flash Gordon movie? Right of course? Oh, come on, tree, 58 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: did I didn't You didn't see Flash Gordon. No with 59 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: the Queen soundtrack and all that. No, definitely not. Wow. Well, 60 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: Timothy Dalton in one scene they have this it's like 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: a test of courage where they reach into this these 62 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: different holes in this big like rock type thing, and 63 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: there's a creature in there that will bite you if 64 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: you stick your hand down the wrong hole. So they 65 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: go down to the elbow and then of course one 66 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: of the guys got tagged on the wrist and like 67 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: green ooze, who's out his wrist? That's did he perish? Um? 68 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: Noodling reminds me of that sand monster in Return of 69 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: the Jedi, Yes, except you know it's smaller, not much no, uh, 70 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: and actually noodling can be deadly. There's all sorts of 71 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: peril that the sport is fraught with. Let's talk about 72 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: the history of it. First Native American and its roots. Evidently, yeah, 73 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: apparently the first time it appears in Western literature is 74 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: in seventeen seventy five. This trader historian named James A. 75 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: Dare traveling the South and he said, uh, yeah, the 76 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: Native Americans have this weird thing where they get in 77 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: the water and they actually apparently used like red cloth 78 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: like you know, enticed to fish like toro toro to 79 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: the catfish. And then yeah, but then they'd use their 80 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: hands to pull them out. I imagine that the Native 81 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: Americans would use kind of whatever means they could to 82 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: get the fish out, and this is one of them. 83 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: And since catfish are so huge, this was you know, 84 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: a prized catch. Yeah, apparently they, like you said, there 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: was all sorts of other methods used to to fish 86 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: among the Native Americans, including clubbing them over the head, 87 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: using spears, bows and arrows, um, and I think scaring 88 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: them up with torches and then just grabbing them like 89 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: as they came to the surface. So yeah, no dynamiter 90 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: or right, that occurred in the night eighteenth century. And 91 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: they also actually in the article said that the Great 92 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: Depression clearly, probably in the South, it was a good 93 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: time to go noodling. Yeah, because it's totally completely free, 94 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: using nothing but your hands, your body, uh, and whatever 95 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: gas it took to get your pickup truck to the 96 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: noodling hole. And that's about it. So yeah, and then interesting, 97 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean like it, I guess it was still around, um, 98 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: but then in the Great Depression, everybody's like, we need 99 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: to start this up again, right, and then it's passed 100 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: down from father to son. Although there are female noodlers, yeah, 101 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: much braver women than I am. What's that one? Girl's name, 102 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: Mr McFarlane, I don't know, Champagne. Yeah, she she's pretty good. 103 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: Her father's like this well known noodler named Rusty McFarland, 104 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: who's a plumber slash noodling philosopher. Yeah, he was in 105 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: that documentary I watched. Yeah, I think he's a big one. 106 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: He likened plumbing to noodling, actually, I'll bet. And he 107 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 1: even said the word turd, he did. I hate that word. 108 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: It's awful, So, chuck, Yes, this is uh as you 109 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: might have imagine, a fairly rural activity. Yeah, the rural south. 110 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: And then Oklahoma is a huge noodling state. Yes, so's 111 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: Missouri as well. And it's only legal in thirteen states 112 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: as far as we know right now, right, and that 113 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: is up from just eight years ago, only four states 114 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: allowed noodling. Two one. That's nine years ago, now, buddy, 115 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: that's right. Welcome to the future, twentie century man. Uh. Yeah, 116 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: the thirteen states up from four, that's that's a big increase. Yeah, 117 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: it's it's definitely gaining popularity, thanks in part to that 118 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: documentary you vaguely referred to earlier. That's right. What's the 119 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: filmmaker's name. The filmmaker's name is Bradley Beasley, and he 120 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: I believe it's called okay noodling, right, And he really 121 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: put it on the map. Not not only did he 122 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: put it on the map, he established the first noodling 123 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: tournament for the documentary, right, so we could get better 124 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: shots or whatever, because, as as it says clearly in 125 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: the documentary, there ain't no noodling tournaments because no one's 126 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: taken the initiative. Nic that's one of the guys, well Liver. 127 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: So Brad said, hey, you know what a great way 128 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: to end this documentary. I'll start my own noodling tournament. 129 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what he did, and it's taken off 130 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: from them, right, all right, So Chuck, we talked about, um, 131 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: just the generality, just your hand in a hole. Little history, 132 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: let's get a little more into it. Yeah, why would 133 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: a catfish bite onto your hand? Josh, what's the reason? Well, 134 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: actually the reason is that they're What you're doing is 135 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: you're reaching your your hand into a catfish nest um 136 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: where there are thousands of eggs waiting to be hatched. Exactly. Um, 137 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: what I find interesting is you're not catching the female. 138 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: The female comes and lays the eggs, and then the 139 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: male comes along, chases her off and takes over the 140 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: duty of protecting the eggs. So that's what they're doing, 141 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: catching males. They're guarding when they come after your your 142 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: hand and apparently how you noodle as you wiggle your 143 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: fingers around to get their attention, which may be the 144 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: reason that it's called noodling, is your fingers look like 145 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: wet noodles, although no one is No one is quite sure, 146 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: no they're not. It remains a mystery. Um. But yeah, 147 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: So you stick your hand in, the catfish goes to 148 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: bite you, um, And sometimes it will nibble and you 149 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: can kind of get a grasp on it. Sometimes it'll 150 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: try to swallow your entire um arm. Ideally, it sounds 151 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: hard to say that, but I think that's what you're 152 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: looking for. Either way. Once your hand makes entry into 153 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: the catfish is mal you you wiggle it down as 154 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: far as you can to the gills and hook the 155 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: gills from the inside out. And then all of a sudden, 156 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: now you have a real firm grasp on that catfish. Plus, 157 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: when you have your hand in and something's gills, it 158 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: tends to really focus on that and freak out a 159 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: little bit, right, So then you pull it to the 160 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: surface and there you have it. You've got your catfish. Although, 161 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: as we said, this thing is kind of fraught with peril. Yeah, 162 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: the first thing you're gonna encounter is the teeth, right, Yeah, 163 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: there are. They're not super sharp, but there are lots 164 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: and lots of them. And they likened it to sandpaper 165 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: in the article. Actually, this is written by my good 166 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: friend Debbie Rnka, who's a freak girl. Yeah yeah, freak 167 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: girl dot com. And she's about the least likely person 168 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: on earth that would ever write an article in Newdling. 169 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: She did a good job with it. Well, that's the 170 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: great part about our job. I'm writing about giving a 171 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: facial at home and uh, she's writing about noodling. We 172 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: should switch articles occasionally, it seems like. But anyway, Debbie 173 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: wrote this and she did a great job. And she 174 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: says that it's like sand paper on your arm, which 175 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: doesn't sound too bad, but if it's really they said, 176 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: they start twisting and turning when it's on your arm, 177 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 1: and then it can, you know, cut you up a 178 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: little bit, right. I read a quote from a noodler 179 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: that said once they start twist spinning. Um, it can 180 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: rub your hide, It can plumb, rub your hide to 181 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: the bone something like that. Right, Um yeah, that's good. 182 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: So um yeah, that's your first problem is that this 183 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: catfish who's gills you have your hand in is is 184 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: rubbing its sand paper teeth all over your wrist and 185 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: that can turn to hurt. Um. Also, some catfish can 186 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: get pretty big. Yeah, I mean, um, forty six the 187 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: eighty pounds, that's the flathead. I think the blue cats 188 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: get even bigger, upwards of a hundred pounds, I believe, right. So, 189 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: if you were in water that's say chin deep, it 190 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: can pull you under, hold you under, and you were 191 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: a drowned noodler. Yeah. And you know in the documentary 192 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: to that was, um this one one of the legendary 193 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: guys noodles. There were these I'm not sure how this works, 194 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: but these highways where the lake and the river is 195 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: now over the highway. So I guess it's just poor 196 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: planning or something. But these old broken roads basically in 197 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: the water cool and they will go under the asphalt 198 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: to uh, these broken asphalt to get because that's where 199 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: the prime layer is and they will get trapped into 200 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: there sometimes and yeah, um apparently it's also something of 201 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: a pastime. When you're searching a lake for a drowned person, 202 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: people will also noodle while they're looking for the dead person. 203 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: That's called killing two birds, right exactly. And um uh. 204 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: Every once and while, somebody who's looking for a drown 205 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: person and noodling in the meantime will end up drowning 206 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: themselves and getting found. They did this in rivers too. 207 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: I saw one guy drowned from the current sweeping him 208 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: under like a beaver den, which is why noodling is 209 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: not a sport to ever be engaged in alone. Yes, 210 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: they always want noodling buddies. You gotta have partners spotters, 211 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: because once you bring the fish up, generally your spotter 212 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: will help remove the fish from your arm and get 213 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: it into the boat or on land. If you're by 214 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: the banks, or if the fish pulls you under, it's 215 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: good to have a two pound friend to pull you 216 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: back above water. Um. Also, they helped barricade the way 217 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: so that if the catfish tries to escape, it will 218 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: just bump into their legs or something like that. Right. 219 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: There's there's one funny part in the end documentary where 220 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: they're interviewing these two guys that are like chest deep 221 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: and there's only two dudes in the scene, and they 222 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, do you ever worry about your buddy, 223 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, when he's under there for a long time. 224 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: And he says, well, you know, we worry about him 225 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: sometimes when it's been a long time. That's usually when 226 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: he pops right up. And as he said that, the 227 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: guy like comes up from underwater, like you didn't even 228 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: know now at it, and you didn't know there was 229 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: a third person there, but he was noodling underfoot during 230 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: the interview, right, So, because you can drown Chindi water 231 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: is kind of dangerous, but you know, you have to 232 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: go where the catfish are. Sometimes you dive down underwater 233 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: completely and sometimes your head is above water. Another danger 234 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: to noodling. And if you're picking up that this is 235 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: kind of a dangerous sport, you're you're very sharp person. Uh, 236 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: And we should probably take the time to say that 237 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: how stuff works does not recommend you try noodling alone 238 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: or as an inexperienced person with other inexperienced noodlers. I'll 239 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: just say at all, sure, go ahead, at all? Okay Um. 240 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: You can also every once in a while, stick your 241 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: hand into a catfish nest that turns out to be 242 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: a beaver's dwelling. Yes, a underwater snake. Muskrats. Muskrat snapping 243 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: turtles are real bad too. They'll take a finger off. Um, 244 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: And if you encounter one of those guys, you want 245 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: to take off. Yeah, as Ronka says, get out of 246 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: there right. Well, unless you're Jerry Rider. That's kind of 247 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: the legendary noodler that was on Dave Letterman. He um 248 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: is a big snake guy too, So when he sees 249 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,479 Speaker 1: a snake, he sees that as a as an opportunity, 250 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: not a bad thing. Oh yeah, oh yeah. So he 251 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: grabs the snakes. He'll grab snakes, and he bait him 252 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: a few times and he was like, see there, I'm 253 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: bleeding from these three spots, and that's what it felt like. 254 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: He was like, just kind of like a little hypodermic needle. Yeah, 255 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: he said yeah, And he said I'll have him tame 256 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: pretty soon. So he was so he catches him and 257 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: tames him. Well, that's what he said. Well he's a 258 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: snake guy. Wow, Jerry Riders snake circus. Yeah, he's the 259 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: toughest guy I've ever seen. He sounds pretty tough. Actually, Um, normally, 260 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: unless you're Jerry Rider. Uh, you don't want to put 261 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: your hand in a snake hole now because most snakes 262 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: that live underwater near the water are deadly poisonous. Um. 263 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: But most noodlers will tell you that they can tell 264 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: a catfish nest from any other kind of nest just 265 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: by feeling the outside of the nest. Sure experience. Um. 266 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: The reason for that is that the opening will be 267 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: uh sandy, uh and clean, got you uh, and pretty 268 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: compact because a once once the mail comes in and 269 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: is guarding the uh, the the eggs. Um, he's just 270 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: moving back and forth constantly keeping sand analgae off of 271 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: the eggs and out of the nest. So the male 272 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: catfish keep a pretty tidy nest. Apparently, you could not 273 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: pay me any amount of wanting to do this. Man, 274 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: I get a little weirded out, Like I go trout 275 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: fishing in the North Georgia mountains and I'm up to 276 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: my waist and beautiful clear mountain water where you can 277 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: see what's going I can see what's going on, and 278 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm still my head is still on a pivot. When 279 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm near the bank because I just know I'm gonna 280 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: look up and like a snake is gonna drop on 281 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: my head. But these are like the muddy waters of 282 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: these river banks. Muddy river banks, well, yeah, that's where 283 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: catfish twell. And actually, the fact that noodling has become 284 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: such a popular popular sport, noodlers are kind of um 285 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: barometers of the health of a waterway, depending on how 286 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: you look at it. The Army Corps of Engineers love 287 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: to keep a tidy river way, right um. And so 288 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: do most trout anglers because you can see what you're doing, 289 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: and that's where you know, trout generally living in clean water, 290 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: but catfish like a murky, shady, muddy um. And so 291 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: you can. But that's that's how a waterway is naturally, 292 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: they're not naturally clean or tidy, right um. So apparently 293 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: the the Army Corps of Engineers kind of fell asleep 294 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: at the switch for a couple of decades in the 295 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: seventies and maybe eighties. Uh, and basically let the Mississippi 296 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: Delta go to pot unless you're a catfish fisherman. And 297 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: then you're like, the catfish population came back right right. 298 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: So the fact that newdlers are finding catfish easily. Uh, 299 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: is a an indicator of the health of the waterway. Right, 300 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: But there's also a lot of contray diversity over noodling. Yeah, 301 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: we have to mention this. Yeah, And apparently it's it's 302 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: a cultural thing most neodlers, um, you know, like like 303 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: Chuck said that they there legal in southern states. It's 304 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: legal in southern states. In Midwestern states, very rural activity. 305 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: Most city folks aren't going to go stick their hand 306 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: in an underwater hole and hope a catfish bites their hands, right. 307 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: You know why. One of the guys in the documentary 308 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: addresses that, he said, because they're own golf courses. That's 309 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: that's excellent points. Excellent point. Chuck and I are fairly cidified, 310 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: and of course neither one of us would ever ever 311 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: do this. Um. But so I think part of the 312 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: part of the reason why noodlers are kind of looked 313 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: down upon by regular anglers, um, is that it's a 314 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: rural city. Yeah. Yeah, head collision, I guess you could say, 315 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: because there's plenty of you know, city types that grab 316 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: their their trout boots and go out on the weekends 317 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: and go trout fishing, that kind of thing. But there's 318 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: also a um an environmental concern which may or may 319 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: not be true, right, because what you know, clearly what 320 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: you're doing is you're pulling out a catfish that's guarding, uh, 321 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, a big stash of eggs. And many times 322 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: you don't return that fish back to the water. You'll 323 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: keep it and eat it for food, because catfish is 324 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: good eaten. Uh. And even when they do return these 325 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: fish to the water, which they sometimes do, they you know, 326 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: just like catching release fishing, there's a proper way to 327 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: do it. And they you know, they get beat all 328 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: the heck on the on the shore, so they think 329 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: they might not survive from just massive injury. Right. And 330 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: like you're saying, you're removing this catfish from its role 331 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: of protecting these eggs, which means that once that catfish 332 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,479 Speaker 1: has gone, all manner of petitors go, I'm gonna go 333 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: eat meet thousands of catfish eggs. And how could that 334 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: not logically have an impact a huge impact on the 335 00:17:54,480 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: population of the catfish. Here's how. Because most people don't 336 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: stick their hands in catfish nests in the hopes that 337 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: it will bite them and they can pull it out 338 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: and eat it. Yeah, it has gained in popularity, but 339 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: it's still a fringe sport. We're talking like maybe a 340 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 1: thousand people across the country that do this, maybe three thousand. 341 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: That's why there's been no studies. They can't prove anything 342 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: because no one wants to put any money into a 343 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: noodling study. Right, Well, I think we should study it 344 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: to see if it does have an impact. But in 345 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: the meantime, most um fish and Game d n R 346 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: departments in the various states where it is legal are 347 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: hedging their bets and are keeping the number of catches 348 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: a new ler can make from May to August, which 349 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: is spawning season. Um it's three in Missouri. I think 350 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: that's the average, and that's lower than if you're just 351 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: a hook and line angler. You can get ten in 352 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: that per day, three per day and tem per day, 353 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: depending on if you're an angler. Noodlers, of course find 354 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: this unfair, but again, there haven't been any studies, so 355 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: I think three is an arbitrary number. Probably. I wonder 356 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: if anyone's ever caught a noodler A dead noodler probably 357 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: cooked a noodler underwater. Apparently there's this boy in the 358 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: nineteenth century who went noodling and he got held under 359 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: by the by the catfish he caught. But I guess 360 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: his grip was so tight that like a day or 361 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: so later they found the boy and the catfish dead 362 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: side by side on a sandbar. Really yeah, hand in mouth. 363 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 1: Still wow. And that's something that's the way to go 364 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: if you're a noodler, that is the way you die. Well. 365 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: And that's what Jerry Rider said. He said, I'll noodle 366 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: till I die unless noodling kills me. And he shouldn't 367 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: have said it unless he probably meant especially if noodling 368 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: kills me. Should we talk about the tournament? Yeah, we 369 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: mentioned it briefly. Uh. It is the biggest North American 370 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: hand fishing tournament. I thought it was the only one, 371 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: but apparently it's the one. It's the Oakey Noodling Tournament. 372 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: That's what it's called, and straightforward. It's in July. It's 373 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: at Bob's Pig Shop in Paul's Valley, Oklahoma, and there's 374 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: prizes up to like two grand I think if you win. 375 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: There's different categories like Fish of the Day and then 376 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: total catch of total pounding of your three Yeah, stringer. 377 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: There's also natural and scuba noodling, and scuba noodling is 378 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: exactly what it sounds like. Yeah, imagine they're frowned upon. 379 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: It didn't get any working. So so is gaffing, which 380 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: is noodling with the hook, right, because basically you're a woose. 381 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: Is that what that means? Pretty much? Yeah, because you're 382 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: not sticking your hand in there, you're sticking a hook 383 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: in there and their gills and pulling them out. Number one, 384 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: you're immediately doing more damage to them, I imagine, but 385 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: you're not using your hand. It's hand fishing, not hook fishing. 386 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: But they they even frown upon gloves, dude, So this 387 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: is how these guys are. Well, yeah, they frown upon 388 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: gloves because you can't tell. You can't tell from touching 389 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: whether it's a snapping turtle or a muskrat or a catfish. 390 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: But also they can get snagged on things underwater and 391 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: keep you under So yeah, these are tough fellas and women. Yes, Josh, 392 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: there is a DVD series even called Girls Gone Grabbing. Yeah, 393 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: I heard or grabbling grabb No, No, I don't think 394 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: it's a typo. Maybe it's called then um and and 395 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: the there's been some records. Apparently every year somebody sets 396 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: a new record at the Okay Newling Contest. And what's 397 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: cool is these people aren't like all in the same hole. 398 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: They're all over the state. As long as the fish 399 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: is caught within Oklahoma within a twenty four hour period 400 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: from seven thirty pm on Friday to seven thirty pm 401 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: when they're weighed on Saturday. UM, there's a gentleman's agreement 402 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: to not go into the same noodling hole that some 403 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: other people are already in. It's like a fishing spot. 404 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: That's pretty much it. Oh, the fish has to be 405 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: live when it's weighed, um. But other than that, that's 406 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. And the most recent record was 407 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: set this past July two thousand nine now future um 408 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: sixty eight point six pounds by a guy named John Bridges. 409 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: And he had a stringer, the three fish that you're 410 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: allowed to catch in that twenty four He won that 411 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: one too. I don't know if you if he won that. 412 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: I don't see how he didn't because he had another 413 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: fish they called it was almost the same weight as 414 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: part of his stringer. So I imagine he won the 415 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: stringer that year. Josh, do me a favor. Close your 416 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: eyes and picture a sixty six pound catfish up to 417 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: your elbow. Sixty eight point six. Sixty eight point six? 418 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: Can you imagine that? Don't you think I've learned by 419 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: now the hard way not to close my eyes when 420 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: you tell me. To good point, that's a big old catfish. Yeah, 421 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: you got to eat catfish. Yeah, I'll eat it. YEA sure, 422 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: I'm not that cidified. Well, I was just you know, 423 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: for the nice of four graw of course, block sauce 424 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: and all right, thank you, chuck um and catfish always. 425 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: You know that sixty eight point six that's huge. It's 426 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: definitely not as big as they get. You know, every 427 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: like uh rural area has a legend of a catfish 428 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: that's like two fifty pounds. Did you ever see that 429 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: King of the Hill where he I think he was 430 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: trying to catch General Sherman. No, that was the Simpsons, 431 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: was it? Yeah? I think it was. They called it 432 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: like General Sherman or something like that. It was this 433 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: huge catfish and here Homer and Marge around like a 434 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: save our marriage retreat, and Homer sneaks out and catch 435 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: the fish. And I think I did see that one. 436 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: Hilarity ensues that stuff. Yeah, I think it's like seasoned 437 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: fiber or something. It was. Yeah, but you hear you 438 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: do here, definitely hear the rumors like Hogzilla. It's the 439 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: same thing, isn't. Well you just artist about like several 440 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: hundred pounds that like Arkansas. I think it's real though 441 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: I don't know about hag Zilla, but that the huge 442 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: catfish definitely are Chuck. Let's end this by mentioning that 443 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: noodling is not necessarily exclusive to North America. No, it's not, Josh, 444 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: since ur there's a tournament in Nigeria or a festival. 445 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: I guess you're gonna take the should I the room? Goofish? 446 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: That's how I take it. That's exactly right, our goo. 447 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: That's a that's a different colt one that is that's 448 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: why we live in Georgia. Well, this is a one 449 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: hour long contest, which is yeah, kind of cool. But 450 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: I think you can catch a fish anyway you can 451 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: well you can, well it is hand fishing, but you 452 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: can um use nets. I think you can't use like 453 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: cooks and poles, so you can use nets and uh. 454 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: In two thousand and eight, the winning fish you're right, 455 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: Josh was one hundred and forty pounds, right, and um, 456 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: they take their hand fishing very seriously in Nigeria because 457 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: they found out that the winning fishermen in two thousand 458 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: and eight, Uh, bellow ya Cube. They found out that 459 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: he brought a dead fish from another river and said 460 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 1: look what I caught and they arrested him. Yeah, he 461 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: was arrested for fraud in a fishing contest. I want 462 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: to know how you sneak a one hundred and forty 463 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: pound fish into a river. That's probably how he got caught. 464 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: I mean you can't. You can't do it very covertly. 465 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: So somebody saw him and like hello, Yakube cheated and 466 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: they went chink, chink and through the bookhead. Those were 467 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: handcuffs by the way, just so people understand that sound 468 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: effect was all about. Uh so yeah, that's noodling, right, h. 469 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything else to add. So it 470 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: wasn't too bad for our first one after eight years. 471 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: That yeah, on Monday morning. So if you want to 472 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: learn more about noodling, you can read Debbie Ronka's Riveting 473 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: Tale in article form. By typing noodling into the handy 474 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: search bart how stuff works dot Com, which of course 475 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: leads us to listener mail. Listener mail. Josh, before we 476 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: read listener mail, we're gonna send a special shout out 477 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: to our friend Chance and his little sister who have 478 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: had a really rough go of it over the holidays. 479 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: We're not gonna get all into it, but Chance did 480 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: say it would really make keen his little sister's day 481 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: if we said hello, and so we're saying hi and 482 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: hanging their guys and Happy New Year too, Yeah, Happy 483 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: New Year. So having said that, Josh, I'm gonna call this. 484 00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: We are frauds and we've been found out. No, hey, 485 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: Josh and Chuck. Allegedly, I am writing you a very 486 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: distressed fifteen year old boy living in northern Illinois. The 487 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: reason for my distress is that, after closely examining the 488 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: last several podcast I can come to the conclusion that 489 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: your podcast is a sham. Fifteen year old call. Yeah, 490 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: he's just figuring this out. This is the evidence for 491 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: this is that after listening to one of your podcasts 492 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: on healthcare, I noticed that the voice quality seemed different, 493 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: leading me to believe that you two never actually sit 494 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: down and do the podcast together, But the podcast is 495 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: merely a series of recordings and phrases cleverly put together 496 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: through some sound editing equipment. It's really just a series 497 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: of chucks and right right, and then Jerry just makes 498 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: it all happen. Right After listening to that podcast, it 499 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: made me wonder, and I went through other ones and 500 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: notice that you two never skip over each other when 501 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: you talk. Not true, we are talking over each other 502 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: as uh. To further reinforce the suspicion, I recently view 503 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: the webcast on December two, and Chuck was disappearing into 504 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: the background out of the drape. You know how Sometimes 505 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: a blue screen mess up and I'll disappear. That's what 506 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: that is at UH. If this is just an honest 507 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: technical mistake, or if this is a work of clever 508 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: video and audio syncing gone wrong, please right back to 509 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: confirm your existence. Until then, I have no choice but 510 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: to assume there is no podcast but merely a series 511 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: of recordings played with editing equipment from Zach Zack. I 512 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: think you would very much appreciate one of our fellow 513 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: podcasts here at how Stuff Works dot com called Stuff 514 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: They Don't want you to know. It's about um conspiracy theories. 515 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: I think you'd be right up your alley. Yeah, you 516 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: can find that free on iTunes, right, chuck uh. And 517 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: of course you can always find us for free on iTunes, 518 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: which is probably where you found us, um to begin 519 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: with them. Yeah, if you want to send us an 520 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: email accusing us of fraud, we wouldn't be the least 521 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: bit surprised. You can wrap that up and address it 522 00:27:52,280 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: to stuff podcast at how stuff works dot com. For 523 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: more on this and thousands of other topics, visit how 524 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: stuff works dot com. 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