WEBVTT - Cliff Notes: EYL, Radio Row Interviews at The BET Awards 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.560 With Robinhood, not only can you trade individual stocks and ETFs, 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:07.560 you can also seamlessly buy and sell crypto at low costs, 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.200 trade all in one place. Get started now on robin 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:13.920 Hood Trading Crypto invalve significant risk. Crypto trading is offered 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:16.280 through account with the Robinhood Crypto LC. Robin Hunt Crypto 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:18.439 is licensed to engage in virtual currency business activity by 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:20.480 the New York State Department of Financial Services. Crypto Health 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:23.080 thro robin Hood Cryptos not FDFC insured or SIPC protective 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.000 Confesting involves risk, including loss of principle Securities. Trading is 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.720 offered through an account with robin Hood Financial LLC member SIPC, 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:30.040 a registered broker dealer. 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.199 All right, Eyl Queen Naja, thank you for joining us. 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:33.880 Appreciate it. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:34.920 Thank you for having me. 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.640 I appreciate it, Yeah, for sure. So my first question 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:42.400 is how has this journey been for you. I know 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.360 it's been a short period of time, but it's been 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.080 a long period of time as well. So you now 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:52.040 you're an a list, everybody knows you, everybody loves your music. 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:55.240 Is it still moments where it's kind of surreal to you? 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:57.600 Or are you, like fully caught up in a moment 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:58.000 right now. 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.800 Honestly, I never really get to basket the moment. I'm 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:07.080 trying to learn how to, So I can't say it's 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:10.679 really surreal because like just not right now, Like it's 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:13.040 a blessing, but I'm trying to learn how to just 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.440 I'm always like Russian, Russian, Russian everywhere, but I never 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:18.520 really just get to like bask in a moment. 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.039 But it's been a it's been a journey. I feel like. 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:24.480 It's been a time where I was super down. I 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.960 thought everybody forgot about me. But now I'm back here 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.120 again and I just bounce back and I'm happy. So 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:31.280 it's a blessing. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:31.800 Yeah. 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:35.280 Yeah, So this weekend you're presenting at the Awards. Obviously 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.840 Mary is performing. I know that you're a part of 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:38.200 the tour. 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.880 He talked about heart and influence and what it means 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.800 to be a part of it. Mary, Yeah, marry' Jay. 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:48.200 First of all, the first song that I ever sang 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.680 that came out of my mouth was You're All I 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.400 Need to get by with methad Man. I was three 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.600 years old, and it's really full circle to just be 0:01:56.760 --> 0:02:00.640 in this same First of all, I'm going on tour her. Yeah, 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:04.200 so I'm really really excited and I feel like if 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.200 she can see something to me to share her stage, 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.560 then I'm gonna be around here for a minute. 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.040 They don't name Nia, so I was looking at of 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:15.440 it basically translates to like the new Nigeria you understand 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.040 me or the music of Niga. Do you find Nigerians 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.919 or people out there in Africa tap in with your music? 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.240 Okay? So my first name is Queen. 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.680 My middle name is Naja, and it has nothing to 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.360 do with Nigeria, and a lot of people get that 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.880 mixed up. My name is Naja because my father's name 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:37.560 was my father's from Yemen, his name was Mohammed Nijeb 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.840 and my mom just instead of she put an a 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.240 on the end, So Naija and Niji. So a lot 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:44.959 of time, the way she spelled it was like the 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:49.359 Nigerian and I didn't learn that until like on Twitter recently. 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.120 But yeah, it has nothing. 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.639 To do in Nigeria, but I think it does work 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.280 for me because like when they see my name, they 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.560 gravitate towards me, and I love Nigerian artists. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.840 I haven't been there, but if it works for me, 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:02.520 it just worked with me. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.800 So I feel like it's on a job training when 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.640 it comes to success, and especially the music business, and 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.880 a lot of people make mistakes because there's no blueprint 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.160 or there's no roadmap to follow. So learning the business 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.440 side of it, how has that been for you? Have 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.840 you had mentors that's like teaching you the dudes a adults? 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.000 Is it just like experience? How have you learned the 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:26.000 business side of music? 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:26.520 Well? 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.920 I was blessed to have a really really good support 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.960 system around me, like a small, solid circle, and I'm 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.920 learning from that circle. I didn't know a lot coming 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.760 to I mean, I didn't know nothing coming to the industry, honestly. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.040 But I'm still learning as I go. 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.960 It's a lot of things I've had learning experiences where 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.119 you have to experience something bad first and then learn 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.360 from it. So that's just like an everyday thing with me. 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.240 So yeah, I'm still learning. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:52.280 Yeah. 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.080 So one of the things, especially in business and obviously 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.960 in music, it is collaboration. What's the process like for 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.640 you when you're looking for somebody to collaborate with? Obviously 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.920 we know the dirt and I've been showing record is incredible. 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:03.680 Thank you. 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:05.920 What's that process, like when you're trying to collab with somebody. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:11.240 So usually like I'll all right, Usually i'll build. I'll build, sorry, 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.520 build beats from scratch. But if I don't. If I 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.800 like a song, regardless if I building or not from scratch, 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:19.920 I think of a concept to it, I'll go mumble 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:24.159 and like some cadences, and then I'll create the words 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.240 and I'll say, oh, this person would sound really good 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.720 on this song, Like I can hear the voices on there. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.080 You're making the record yourself, you're producing it. 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:33.800 You can say I'm part I'm partially producing. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.760 I don't press the buttons, but I tell them, use 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:39.840 this instrument, make this beat, make this cadence. I just 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:41.840 don't know how to do all the technical stuff, but 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.039 I know what I want when it comes to music, 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:46.480 and I have a really really good ear for it. 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.120 So yeah, and then I just get the whoever I want. 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.280 I DM them. I don't really have to label do 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:54.880 stuff because I like for it to be genuine, you know. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:57.760 But if I don't get them, I'll just wait. 0:04:58.560 --> 0:04:59.159 I'll just wait. 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.840 And if it don't have and it don't, what's the 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:02.680 future of your brand? 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.200 Like we see Rihanna become a billionaire for having her 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.200 beauty brand. And I feel like, especially when you got 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:11.599 like a solid consolidated community, you can really start pushing 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.360 out products and that's when you really hit you out 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:13.920 your jectory. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.000 So what's the future of expansion for you. 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.040 I'm not gonna lie. I do want to put out 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:19.600 some products because that it'd be more money in that 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:24.720 than the music. Okay, I just want whatever product I 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.200 put out to represent me and my brand. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:28.200 I know. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.040 I really love to be comfortable and I love to 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:30.920 lounge around the house. 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.520 So like one of the things I wanted to do 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:36.280 was like on ess, like loungewear, and like I'm big 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.440 on like hygiene, so like kitty. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:39.280 Kits, like for the girls. 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:42.239 Yeah, kitty kits. 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.440 Very important. But yeah, I don't know. 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.160 Maybe I'll come up with something else later on, but 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.400 I still like still trying to balance out this life, so. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.160 Hopefully that comes about, like later on. 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.719 I feel ideas though, I feel like the greatest artist, 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:04.480 whether it was DMX or eminem or even nas, like 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.520 they always told their life and you felt their pain, 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:10.760 you felt they was going through and it's a gift 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.800 in the curse because your fans feel like you're your family, 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.599 but you're also letting people know what you're personally going through. Yeah, 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.360 so how do you balance that because I know that's 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.880 like you know your story you how do you balance that? 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.280 And is there have a point where you turn it 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.240 off where it's like, this is my pain, this is 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.719 my music, this is my joys, but this is private. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:30.800 I don't want to share, you know what. 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.320 Story of my life because I definitely used to overshare 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:39.200 a lot. Like overshare, it's I've groomed to be a 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.800 little bit more conservative, but now I think I'm a 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.800 little bit too conservative. So like I'm an extremist, I'm 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.040 either here or here. I'm trying to find like a 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.520 medium because at the end of the day, the reason 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.440 why people love me and how I came about was 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:55.960 from being transparent and showing my life. But like you said, 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.640 people think they know you from just like they think 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.120 they know you from a minute video, and it's just 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.760 like you don't, you really don't, and they have their opinions, 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:06.760 and sometimes it could it could just get so like 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.280 overwhelming to where you know, I start to go into 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.840 this little shell and I don't want to, but I 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.920 can't do that because of the industry I'm in and 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:16.520 I have to I mean, you gotta be out there 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:17.440 and you got to be visible. 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:18.920 So I just have to find a medium. 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.800 Still, I think I'm gonna get back on my YouTube channel. 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:23.600 Yeah, coming back. 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:25.800 Yeah, y'all heard it. 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:26.040 Head. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.640 So obviously the coaches Big as Night Sunday you're presenting, 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:31.320 is it somebody excited. 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.400 To see I'm just really excited. I'm just excited to 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.520 be here. It's not like I'm excited to see everybody. 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:39.720 Yeah. 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.360 So let me ask you last, how do you balance 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.360 because you know, you got family, you got a career, 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.040 you got tour, you got a relationship. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.040 Do you meditate, do you take walks? What's your mental health? 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:50.280 Luck? 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:55.880 What we're doing, I just pray. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.640 Honestly, I grew up in I grew up in church 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.360 and stuff. So like, honestly, I just ray, I need 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:01.600 to do. 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.680 A little bit better that. But to be honest, I 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:06.520 think I need to do a little I think I need. 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.360 To find I still have to find something. I still 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.040 have to find something like uh that puts me at peace. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:14.680 But I know one of the main things is like 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:19.720 car rights studio sessions. That's where that's when I write 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:21.600 my music and go to the student. That's my therapy. 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:24.400 I do have a therapist. I talked to a therapist 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.760 and it helps a lot. But I want to find 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.560 a hobby, like, I want to find something to do 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.199 outside of music that I just really really enjoy. 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:35.280 Yeah, I gotta find it. 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:38.679 That's it. Well, thank you. The one last question that 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.800 I have is we talked about R and B, and 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:43.839 I feel like we're in a good space for R 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.120 and B right now. Who is your biggest R and 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:47.880 B inspiration? 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:55.120 Biggest R and B? Oh, that's hard. 0:08:56.120 --> 0:09:00.840 Who was your favorite all top favorite? Whitney Hughton, Whinney. 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:05.319 Houston, Mary J of course Mary J for Real Monica 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:11.520 and a lot more. But I grew up listening to them. 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:16.120 So yeah, I would we appreciate you coming. Make sure 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.679 y'all go check out the tour Queen nazi Ya. 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:23.360 Yes, yeah, thank you here with Joey. Dad asked Joey, 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:28.160 thank you for joining us, bro, I appreciate it, your sir, Yes, sir. 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.680 So we had we had for b TV ninety y'all 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.080 with the mice in your hands was like. 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:37.880 Mike, so, Joey, you you're very interesting to me because 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:42.600 you represent a nostalgic era that we grew up on nineties, 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.199 but you also are new school and you got that 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.400 and your multi talent, so you act rap. So it's 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.840 like a gumball. Where do you get where you get 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:55.839 your inspiration from? 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:56.000 Like? 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.959 Where do you get your inspiration from? And how do 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:00.880 you stay freend with the times? 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:01.640 Well? 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.400 God, I feel like everything that I do is a 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:11.439 spiritual experience, you know what I'm saying. Like if it 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.439 wasn't for me feeling purposeful and the things that I do, 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:16.800 I don't think I'll be able to do them properly, 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.000 you know what I'm saying. So I would say that's 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.080 definitely my that's my jump start, you know what I mean. 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:25.719 It comes from spirit, It comes from the soul. That's 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.000 why I find my inspiration. And apart from now, it's 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.320 just expansion, you know what I'm saying. Wanted to build 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.679 more for my legacy, for us, you know what I mean, 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:36.440 for my people. 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:41.559 Award winning actor, what I said, award winning, let's start there. 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.199 Obviously you will stand out and the power series. So 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:46.240 when did the love for acting come about? 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:48.760 Somebody? Was that something you were formally trained in Or. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.200 I was always entacty, So. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.720 To get into my high school, I went to Edward 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.280 all Murow in Brooklyn, Bosky. I went there Adam Yacht 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:05.240 from the BC Boys, Little Mam majority badass, and uh, 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.800 they had a theater program there. I'm trying to get 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.839 into like Laguardie and stuff like that, but because of 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:12.480 my attendance, I couldn't. 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:13.000 I couldn't go. 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.400 Yeah, They're like, nigga, you live in Brooklyn and your 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:19.800 attendance is bad. In Brooklyn, it was like. 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:21.000 Stay at roke here. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:22.959 So I ended up going to end with all Mother 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.400 and I was in an apartment for about two years. 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:27.840 It's kind of like a culture shock for me because 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.240 my first signs going to school like white people and 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:30.800 stuff like that. 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:32.520 So it was kind of hard for me to keep 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:36.400 up and I d' getting kicked out. But h you know, 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.559 music was always my first love. I always have music 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.720 like just here with me, and I figured I learned 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.000 quickly that you know, trying to. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.400 Make it as an action in New York City, he's 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:47.960 like trying to find a needle in a hat stack. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:52.360 So I doubled down on music as my main focus, 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.480 and I figured that in the future, I'll be able 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.400 to use it as leverage into the acting business. 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:00.400 With this session with ideas, let me ad she mean, 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:04.199 I know a lot of people utilize like law of 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.400 attraction and shit like that, and I could tell you know, 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.720 you deep into the esoterics, you understand symbolism, the power 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.000 of it, so I know you tap into the different 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:13.600 universal laws and intelligence. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:15.680 I like the you know, the law of. 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.719 Confidence or the law of focus. Which one you tap in? 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:20.480 You feel me when you want to go to that 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:21.040 next level? 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:21.400 Which one? 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:22.720 Which one is a principle that you. 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:26.760 Apply between the law focus and the law of confidence. 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.240 Whatever law the universe you utilize. 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.920 Well, I'm big on faith, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:32.520 I'm going be faith based. 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:33.400 So like. 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.719 I got, I got a way of thinking where you know, 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.520 you can tell who's praying who's not, you know what 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.520 I'm saying. Usually the people who are frustlating with life 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.640 and h you know, blaming other things, they probably could 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:51.280 pray some monk. 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:53.319 So like me, like when I think they want to 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.079 double down take things to be like I mean, I 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.160 pray every day off top, but when I really want 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:01.080 to double down take ing CBS level, I turn the socks, 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.760 you know what I'm saying, And I turned into my 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:07.240 faith and age Dad alone feels everything. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.800 Else feels my focus, It feels my confidict. 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.560 Yeah, fuse, you. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.240 Know whatever it is that I need to make it 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:15.560 to that next loving at that. 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:18.960 Getting point, that's the law belief. Whatever you believe crystallizes 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:20.960 and becomes real for sure. 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:27.000 So acting or rapping, which one do you prefer? Like, 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:28.800 what's what's the number one for you? 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.720 I mean, listen, man, I tell people all the time 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:36.080 like it's like it's like two women that you love, 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.040 you know, Like I ain't about to explicitly say which 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.000 when I prefer, but I tell you this, I couldn't 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:46.839 survive without music. You know. 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.760 That was my first love. That was you know, my 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:50.920 first baby mom. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:57.160 Whatever anetic to her. But they both make me better 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.240 for each other, you know what I'm saying. It's like 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.240 then for a while, come back to music. It's like 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.280 a new level of freedom because I'm like, oh, like I. 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.920 Don't you know this music. I don't gotta rely on music, 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.240 no more shame thing with acting. I go over there 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.480 and it's like I ain't gotta rely on this either. 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:15.199 So you know, they both leto keep each other man 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:18.040 in his life. I wouldn't. I wouldn't have traded once 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.520 for the art. I need them both. 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.680 So tell them about the music. The latest project. I know, 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:27.680 with some delays, what's the update on it? When we're 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:28.760 gonna say, like what show. 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:29.160 The new album? 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.040 New album two thousand. It's coming next month in July. 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.240 I actually have the date, but I don't. I'm not 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.520 gonna share it yet because you know, I don't want 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.000 to have to change the shit again. You know what 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.760 I'm saying, Like, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.880 just announce the pre order and that's when Montherfuck's gonna know. Okay, 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.760 the date is lot, it's official. You know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:51.600 you know, I ran into some complications. It's been five years, 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.120 it's my last album, so it's a lot of excitement 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.200 and putting this music out. You know, I'm very eager, 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.160 but you know, it's also my first major so that 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.400 was really more of the complications that I'm having is 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:08.120 understanding the chain of come in and the whole system, like, 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.160 you know, having to have everybody on the same page 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:11.800 and things like that. 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:12.440 You know what I mean. 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.160 Like, whereas when I was independent, I just pressed the 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.320 button like I'm ready. If I say June seventeen, it's 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.840 June seventeen, that's when I'm uploaded, you know what I mean. 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.560 So there's a lot of things I was out of 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.680 my control. But listen, when I'm on that stage, it's 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:27.440 just Joey Badass. I ain't got no time to point 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.120 the finger at nobody and everything, like, I just take accountability. 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.280 It's coming soon, though I can't wait, you know, shout, 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.000 I tell your body who's waiting and been patient, appreciate y'all. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:37.360 And you got out in front of it too. That's 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:38.240 a power of social media. 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:39.880 As soon as you know it was a delay, you 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.000 hear everybody up on ig it's gonna be a delay, 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:42.880 and that ain't. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:43.760 No exactly, you know. 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.840 I feel like the game needs Joey Badass, mostly because 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.240 I think, you know, I do high level conversations. 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:51.680 I feel like your music high level. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.880 And plus it's in a lane where there's a lot 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.000 of shit that's out there, but it ain't nothing to 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:58.240 allow you to kind of you. 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.960 Got a masculine energy feeling. I think you bring that 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:01.560 to the game. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:06.680 And you know the music is is high energy, which 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.920 if you're talking about something, what's you believe that you 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:09.880 representing the game? 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.040 Know as Joey Badass, I think. 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.840 I represented call the higher consciousness. You know what I'm saying. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:20.680 I represent open mindedness, I represent unity, and I represent 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:25.040 you know, yeah, just broad a thinking man, higher level shit, 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:25.760 you know what I'm saying. 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.200 Like we we about expansion over here, you know what 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:28.520 I mean. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:32.000 Like my whole experience as a musician, as an actor, 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.000 I've seen them try to marginalize us as a people, 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.800 as a culture, and you know, I'm here to double 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:39.400 down on the fact that we oceans. 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.440 We ain't swimming pools, you know what I mean. 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.520 We've asked and unpredictable, you know what I'm saying, and 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:47.640 there's no limitations to what we're doing. 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:51.520 So my last question from a business standpoint, you being 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.440 independent going to a major What made you do that? 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:58.160 And how has it changed as far as the business 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.040 dynamics is being an independent artist in on a major label. 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.600 First of all, great question, you know, because my whole 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.159 foundation is built on independence, you know what I mean. 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.080 That's that's like my call of fame right there. So 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.240 my decision on going with a major was me getting 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.520 to a point in my career where I created enough 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.680 leverage where I was able to find a partner and 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:19.440 be able to ask for the things that I want 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.480 and that I deserve, where you know, it didn't slight me. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:23.840 You know what I'm saying. I didn't. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.600 I didn't have I wasn't giving up the lion's share 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:30.200 or anything like that, so you know, and also also 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:35.000 as independence as creatives, this there's this bust, so much 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:38.000 we could do until we reach a glass ceiling. It's 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.280 like being a painter, you could sell all your your 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:44.879 artworks right out of your your photo studio, but eventually 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.359 it's just word of mouth. Whereas you go partner with 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.239 a gallery or something like that, and it's like now 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.359 your works is getting out there some more and shit 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.080 like that. So that was that was kind of my 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.320 my decision making. And also like having an escape plan, 0:17:57.840 --> 0:17:59.080 you know what I mean, Like I ain't I ain't 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.520 majoring forever two albums in them out. 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:02.480 You know what I'm saying. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:03.800 Are you studying Web three? 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:04.040 Any? 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.080 You said what Web three? Where? 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:08.000 No, I'm not. I'm not too big on the Web 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.680 three NFT game. Like you know, I like to live 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.280 real life, not even. 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:16.119 Talking about just like utilizing the platform, because when I 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.520 think about independent artists, that's gonna be the best platform. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.000 The blockchain, you understand me. It's gonna expand what you're 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.159 gonna be able to do. It's basically will allow you 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.600 to circumnavigate having a label because you're gonna be able 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.879 to take those same things. They got an operation and 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.080 automate it for shure you feel me so on the show. 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.119 NFTs are just one phase of the blockchain, but the 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.680 new iteration of the Internet go allowed the creators to 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:37.720 be able to own it and take advantage of it. 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:39.480 Right up. Well, I mean, you know, to be honest, 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:40.960 I got to catch up a bit. You know what 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:41.320 I'm saying. 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.280 I got I gotta catch up a bit like pandemic. 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:46.120 I'm out here living real life. 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:46.439 You know what I mean. 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:48.400 I got my baby dough at home. I haven't really 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:50.400 been diving too much into it, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:52.800 But I'm with you on that and with you on that, 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:53.680 but I appreciate that. 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:56.439 My last thought is, all as you're talking, who's your 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.959 biggest music influence not named Jay Z? Because when I'm here, 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.879 I got a guy in mind. I'm like, I know that, 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.720 I know that I'm here. I'm like, yo, I feel 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:08.399 like there's a Rock Kim influence here. 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.040 For show for show. I love Rock Kim, you know 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:11.560 what I'm saying. 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.359 For me, what I love about Rock Kim is more 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.560 like the energy and the spirit and the embodiment of 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:19.840 just you know what I'm saying, being high level and 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:23.800 being like focusing on your dean, you know what I'm saying, 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.720 and not having a It's about intequity over success, you know, 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:29.600 because that's what I value, you know what I mean? 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.680 So yeah, for sure, but I was apart from Jake, 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:35.600 I gotta get it to life. 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:41.600 Nah, I can see the early ellmatic Ye see that, 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:42.360 I can see. 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:42.600 You know nothing. 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.879 That's my big bunk for with you know. Yeah, Like 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:47.919 I'm great for that out of relationship with him, you. 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:48.320 Know what I mean? 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:49.960 Like I literally call him the city. 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:51.920 Appreciate it. 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:54.159 Brothers, My dog days are coming over. 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.200 Neil, Welcome back, Welcome back, brother. First of all, this 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.159 is a reunion. Last time we saw you with invest 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:03.800 Fest VIP nighted today for the stage down. So I 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:05.600 want to I want to formally thank you for that, man, 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:06.240 I was so for me. 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.399 I had a great time brother. Indeed, indeed appreciate you 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:10.560 having me no problem. 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:10.800 Man. 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:14.080 So you as like a legacy artist at this point, 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:16.400 which is crazy because I grew up on your music. 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.639 So now it's like you're a legacy artist. How do 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:23.320 you how do you maintain your your relevancy? And almost 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:25.040 what twenty is in the game fifteen? 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:28.600 We almost at twenty. Yeah, we almost at the twenty mark, 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:29.840 you know. 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:30.199 Man. 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.680 For me, it's it's always been about acknowledging the trend, 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:35.720 but not following it, you know what I mean. Like, 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:37.720 I think a lot of these young casts don't realize 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.520 that trends are meant to come and go, and if 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.600 you attach your artistry, if you attach yourself to that trend, 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:46.520 once that trend leaves, you kind of leave with it, 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:48.720 you know what I mean. So I've always tried to 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.119 attach myself to things that aren't going anywhere, up to 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:54.440 sound going anywhere. Sound of a guitar is never going anywhere. 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.160 Love is a feeling, as an emotion, as a move, 0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:58.680 and that it ain't going nowhere. It might be the 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:00.399 most popular thing right now, because you know, it is 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.080 what it is, but it's never gonna go out of style. 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.080 It's never there's never gonna be a time where it's 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.399 like we don't need love. We always need love. We 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.119 will forever need love, and we will forever need love songs. 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:12.680 And as long as that's the case, Neil will forever 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:13.119 be around. 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:15.719 I think I'm glad you said that, because that's one 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:18.600 of the many talents you started as a songwriter, became 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:19.880 a worldwide success. 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:20.280 As an artist. 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:22.520 But at these times, now do you go back to 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:24.760 the original talent, like I see it as an artist 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:26.240 out there, they could be great. 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:28.520 They need that Neo Penn is. 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:29.920 That I I mean that. 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:31.600 That may not, that may not be the mind state 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:34.000 as to why I do it. But at the same time, 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:36.360 I've I'll never not write, you know what I'm saying. 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:38.760 That's that's that's therapy for me, you know, if it's 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:41.879 I've always been better putting it down on paper as 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:43.480 opposed to even saying it out of my mouth. So, 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:47.119 you know, whenever I get into that place where I'm 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:50.119 Superman in my family, right, so whenever Superman needs saving, 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:52.960 I get in my pad and I'm good again. You 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:54.879 know what, I mean, that's that's that's always been my therapy. 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:56.879 So the fact that I can do it as a 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:59.040 career and make money doing it, that's just French benefit. 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:01.439 I'm saying, because of it, you know what I mean, 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:03.560 Like I'm stable because of it. 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:06.880 Now, do you think we headed to a place where 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:11.000 because R and B is one of those genres that 0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:15.399 it's forever needed. Number One, we're very love for society. 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:17.680 We ain't got enough love in the culture. You understand me, 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.119 And I think R and B is probably something that 0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:22.159 we need to listen to even more. And recently we 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:25.320 sing Drake and Beyonce do like house music and a 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:27.320 lot of people in dance music and a lot of 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:30.040 people were saying, well, this was actually a good thing 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:31.760 because it's a break from what we get. A lot 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:34.480 of music is dark in these days. What is R 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:37.160 and B or what is the future of music as 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:38.320 a therapy for the culture? 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:39.240 You understand me? 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:41.760 And specifically, like, what's your intention you put in the 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:43.200 music as far as what you want to spread? 0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:46.399 Well, I mean I've been I've been about love from 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:49.080 the very beginning, or should I say the black, white 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:52.560 and gray of love? Because you know you can't appreciate 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:54.640 the highs of love if you can't acknowledge the lows 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:56.840 of love, like they both exist for a reason. 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.200 It's like Yin and yang, you know. 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:04.360 So I'm trying to make sure that anybody going through 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.719 a heartbreak or anybody going through anything like that, knows 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:09.639 and understands that they're not alone. You don't nobody you 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:13.640 going through it, but it ain't just you. I'm going 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:15.040 through it too, you know what I'm saying. That's what 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:17.000 the song says to them, and what the song also 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:19.560 does is give them a soundtrack to what it is 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.040 is happening. You know, I'm depressed, I feel bad right now. 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:23.840 I need I need a song that's gonna pull me up. 0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:26.360 I got that for you or you know what I'm saying. 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:28.399 I just feel like being in my feeling today is raining. 0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:29.920 I want to just be in this place. I got 0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.560 that for you too. That's what my music has always been, 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.720 you know, put the song on and apply it to 0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:36.600 your life accordingly. 0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:37.760 That's what a neo record is. 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:43.080 So when did you let me ask you this? As 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:46.280 far as balancing business and music, right, a lot of 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:50.719 people say they get turned off from creating because they 0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:53.480 have to deal with the business side. Did you ever 0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:57.159 have that experience and how has your experience been navigating 0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:59.640 being a creative and being a businessman at the same song. 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:02.600 So this is a new way to segue into the 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:03.200 new album. 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:07.000 It's July fifteenth, self explanatory and now the album. 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.680 I've been writing on this album since twenty eighteen, since 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.439 before the pandemic, and a lot of the reason aside 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:16.600 from the pandemic, a lot of reason why so long 0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:18.720 is because I fell into that place where it was like, 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:20.600 all right, this is a good song, but is it 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:23.640 rhythmic enough, is it popping up? Is it urban enough? 0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:25.960 And then I'm looking at like I'm looking at the format. 0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:30.920 It's like, all right, the sounds changed. I ain't getting 0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:33.920 no younger. Do I fit still? Is there even a 0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.640 place for me in this still fell into that place 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:40.040 and it took a major, major toll on just my creativity. 0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:42.400 I couldn't write nothing like because I'm second guessing everything 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.760 I'm doing. I had to finally get to that place 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:46.560 where I realized it, Man, I've never been in the 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.040 business for the business of selling records. 0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.960 That's not what I do. Record label sell records, I 0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:53.840 am not a record label. I'm an artist. I'm a writer. 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.800 I'm a singer. My only obligation is to put my 0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:58.879 heart and soul into this music. 0:24:59.280 --> 0:24:59.600 That's it. 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.879 Once I got back there, the songs just pour it 0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:04.359 out of me. So I got back to that. I 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:06.600 got back to a good place. The business side of 0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:09.600 this will steal the joy of the side if you 0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:10.040 let it. 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:13.159 Now at the same time, to do this and not 0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:14.919 know that it's a business, it's just stupid. 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:16.960 That's just no one. 0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:20.080 Understands that there is millions upon millions upon hundreds of 0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:23.000 millions of dollars made with this, So you can't ignore 0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:25.080 the fact that it's a business. But what you don't 0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:28.160 do is take the business into the studio. You don't 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:29.600 go in the studio and all right, today we're going 0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:32.399 to write a pop song, y'all. Because it'll never happen 0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.159 like that. You got to go in the studio and 0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:37.040 do what your artistic integrity lets you do and then 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:38.920 let the people that do that figure out where it's 0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:40.760 supposed to fall. Okay, you did a pop record today, 0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:42.800 I know where to take this. You did the rhythmic 0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:44.159 records today, all right, I know where to take this 0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:47.880 in the creative process. It's just about creation, bro, It's 0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:50.680 just about art. Let it be about that, Let it 0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.159 be Let that be your joyous spot, and then let 0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:54.920 the people that do that do that. 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:57.000 At least that's been my philosophy of it. 0:25:57.160 --> 0:25:58.720 Yeah, so you said this, I mean it's only on 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.000 twenty years, Like, yeah, we grew up on the music. 0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:02.160 Yeah, but it has changed. 0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:05.280 And so I wonder now, is there artists that you 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:07.879 listen to that inspire you the music and say, like, 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.680 I like this all right, I can hear what they're 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:12.800 going with, Or when you're getting in that process of 0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.720 writing for the new album, did you go back in 0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:19.399 time to eighties or seventies sounds to be like I 0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:20.680 needed that to inspire me. 0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:23.240 I can honestly say a little bit of both, a 0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:24.480 little bit of both, because. 0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:29.040 Again, you can't you can't ignore what's happening right now, 0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:31.359 Like you can't call yourself a music person and ignore 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.920 what's happening right now. But at the same time, you 0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:37.280 also can't try to transform yourself into what's happening right now, 0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.840 because it's happening right now, you know what I mean, Like, 0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.560 I'm forty two years old. There's some things that are 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:44.159 being said in some of these records that it's just 0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:47.200 gonna sound stupid if I say I'm aware of that. 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.000 I acknowledge that, And I ain't even mad at that. 0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:49.760 You know what I'm saying. 0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.880 I'm I'm always gonna give you the metaphor that's gonna 0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:54.640 make you think a little bit to get to where 0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:56.480 that to get to where you got with that, you 0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:58.479 know what I'm saying. That's always gonna be my thing. 0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.720 But at the same time, I can't. I can't say 0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:04.879 that it's not young cats out here doing it like 0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:08.600 the boy Blue, he's making moves. I cannot acknowledge that, 0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:12.600 Lucky Day making moves. Give you on making moves. 0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:14.440 I can't. I can't ignore that, you know. 0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:16.639 So I listen to these cats and and and I 0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.680 kind of I'm almost kind of taking back to my beginnings, 0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:20.880 Like I know where you're at right now. 0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:22.720 I know the excitement you're feeling right. 0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.720 Now, Hotel. I'm thinking like that's one of the records. 0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.359 Shout out to that boy by the way, give I 0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:29.000 love his tone. 0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:30.439 You see, don't sound like. 0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:34.600 What's I kind of got a two part question. 0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:39.879 First part is do you recognize the metaphysical aspect of music, 0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:42.840 You understand me, Like you know we water beings. So 0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.280 music as a frequency and trage you like once you 0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.520 put a motion, emotion into something that gets stuck into 0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:50.720 a person as they listen to it. Like a person 0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:52.760 may listen to your words and your voice and your 0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.879 energy a thousand times. They may listen to our podcast 0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:57.600 or media once or twice. 0:27:57.960 --> 0:27:58.639 You understand me. 0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:02.000 Do you recognize that power metaphysically that music has as 0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:04.680 you're going into it with that intention? And then too, 0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:08.640 do you plan on in the future utilizing like NF 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:12.200 teen's Web three blockchain to really monetize your music in 0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:13.800 a different way to go direct to consumer. 0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.480 Gee two parts. So yes, I'm definitely aware of that. 0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.639 I'm definitely aware of the music's power. 0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:23.240 You know. 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.760 Uh, sound is frequency, frequency is vibration, and all of 0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:30.040 these things affect us, affect ourselves, affects us on the inside. 0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:31.720 It ain't just I listen to this song and I 0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:33.960 like it. It's I listen to this song and it 0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:36.320 does something. It affects me. I get goosebumps or whatever 0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.440 the case may be. It's because of vibration, frequency things. 0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:43.280 So I'm very aware of how powerful that is. I'm 0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.680 aware of how some cats have used it the wrong way. 0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:48.160 You know, you put a frequency in your record that 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.640 makes people addicted to it, but it's not feeding them anything. 0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.880 It's just it's just making it's just creating craving Like 0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:56.160 that's that's almost backwards. 0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:58.200 I just crave, I just crave, I just crave. Well, 0:28:58.240 --> 0:28:58.840 what do you crave? 0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.160 I'm trying to get you to music that's going to 0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:02.720 get you to crave the right thing that's going to 0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:04.880 get you to crave that thing that's gonna make yourselves 0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:06.320 move the where they need to move, you know what 0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:06.600 I mean. 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:07.880 That's that's what I'm always shooting for. 0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.000 And as far as NFTs and all of that stuff, 0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:13.720 I'm definitely in that world, not as heavy as I 0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.440 would like to be, And it's mainly just a standpoint 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:18.360 of sitting still long enough to get the information, to 0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:19.560 get together the knowledge. 0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.440 But I see what that is. I see the potential 0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:22.680 in that. 0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:26.360 You know, right now, NFTs is something that you can't 0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:28.560 even touch, you know, it's it's it's intangible. But in 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.480 a minute, you about to see houses as NFTs, You 0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:34.000 about to see whole records as NFTs like it's it's 0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:35.760 about to that's what's that's where we're about to go. 0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:36.560 I see it happening. 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:40.680 So last question before we wrap, I will actually I 0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:44.120 want you to tell people about the new music, because yeah, 0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.120 like I said, I grew up on it, the old music, 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.280 but I'm looking forward to the new music. So what 0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.400 can we be looking forward to on a new project? 0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.080 Gopy that so self explanatory is the name of the 0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.320 new album, and I called it that simply because the 0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.560 music speaks for itself. It doesn't really need much explanation. 0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:01.280 On top of the fact that I've been here almost 0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:02.880 twenty years, I feel like y'all should know me at 0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:03.200 this point. 0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.000 I shouldn't have to explain who I am, what I am, 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.760 what I do. On this album. 0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:10.720 You will find acknowledgment of what's going on right now 0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.680 with my spin on it, and but you will also find, 0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:16.960 you know, that song for the diehard fan, that person 0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:20.000 that's been there since stay and the vibe and energy 0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.000 that they look for. I'm always trying to please all 0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:23.280 the people at the same time, and I know that 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:28.600 that's virtually impossible, but damn it, I'm gonna keep doing 0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:30.880 what I do for who's listening and who cares? 0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.440 And and uh yeah, yeah that's what it is. 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:37.560 Brother hedio record, Uh put you on the spot. 0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:41.360 I mean, so sick is up there, but uh sech 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.160 and love problems such. 0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:46.280 And love good taste, good taste, Miss independent. 0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:51.720 Indeed, I appreciate that love rump and shot. 0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:55.719 Come on, man, it's certain songs that made me think 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:56.240 I could sing. 0:30:57.560 --> 0:30:59.760 That's why you know it's a good record to do 0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.000 you see like you feel? 0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:02.840 Might sound good? 0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:03.160 Right man? 0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:05.240 Somebody got Neil for me? 0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.560 I'm throw one back at you. Best swing that neo 0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:11.720 rope ah. 0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:20.480 A little bit for there's a couple of you got one? 0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:22.640 How about this? 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.680 I do we saw one of the guys before in 0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.800 that record last night last night, I wasn't there. 0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:30.920 Damn, let's refrain. 0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:36.680 You saw the winner. Talk saw the winner that replaced 0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:37.680 the versus the. 0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:42.560 The Marrio joints to this is replaceable, but it's not replaceable. 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:46.040 But let me love you irreplaceable irreplaceable? 0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:47.960 Wow, which one is your favorite? 0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:49.440 Damn? 0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.480 I mean they both equated to really quality Christmases. I 0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.520 will say that really good Christmas is off of both 0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:57.120 of those records. 0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.920 Still it is Day, It is Day. Yeah, my kids 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:00.920 love those songs. 0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.320 If I had to choose one over the other, probably 0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.320 probably irreplaceable, only because it was a learning experience for me, 0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:09.760 you know what I mean. Like I wrote the song 0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:13.360 with the intent to keep it and learned that certain lyrics, 0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:17.200 the the person delivering the message matters. 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:18.160 Sometimes. 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.760 For example, I can have another you in a minute, 0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:22.360 matter of fact, she'll be here in a minute. From 0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:26.200 a man, sounds a little mean, limosogynistic, but for a 0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.160 woman to say I can have another you in a minute, 0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:29.960 matter of fact, he'll be here in a minute, every 0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:31.560 woman in the world is gonna rally behind it, like 0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:36.280 that's my girl, you know what I mean. So that's 0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:42.480 that I learned that lesson through that record. Super Big 0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:46.200 Daddy is a boyfriend for that record. Michael Jackson, Prince, 0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:49.680 I can't, I can't. I can't even do it right, I. 0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:52.440 Tell you. 0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:57.240 So I learned how to sing mimicking Michael Jackson, I 0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:00.960 learned how to perform Mimiican Prince and I've had I've 0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.240 had moments with both of them before they passed. I 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.160 got to actually write with For Michael Jackson, we didn't 0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.600 get to record the records, but like talking to this 0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.000 man regularly and him critiquing the records that I'm writing 0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:14.200 for him, like that was an experience. And then Prince 0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:19.600 my Libra Scale It's probably my worst performing album, and 0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:21.320 I was bummed out. I was messed up about it, 0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:24.280 and we got we got we got invited to Prince's 0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:27.120 Grammy party that year. I remember I was. I was 0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:29.280 psyched about that because huge Prince fans. So we go in, 0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:32.960 he's on stage, he's performing with he sees me. He 0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:36.400 puts his guitar down b lines for me and comes 0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.800 to me and says to me, Yo, Libra Scale was 0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:40.960 a good album and don't let anybody tell you different. 0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:43.480 Back up stage and finished what he was doing, and 0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:45.280 that that for me in that moment, because I was 0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:46.600 I was, I was beat up. 0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:47.000 I was. 0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.320 I was beat up. Prince liked the album to hell 0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:53.360 with anybody that didn't like it. Look tell what all, y'all, I. 0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:54.720 Gotta give you credit before we go. 0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:59.120 Your versus Battle probably the most slept on but absolutely 0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:00.880 Classicpreciate that class. 0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:02.920 The reason I was there last night with there's some 0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:04.120 some things is in the works. 0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:07.840 We're having some discussions, some discussions about some possibilities. 0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:11.160 Yeah, that's that's talking about it. 0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:11.759 We got to see you. 0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.320 You know why y'all are here. Okay, So if I 0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:16.400 was to do it again. 0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.400 Who who I want to see you against? 0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:22.560 That was because that's the main thing right now. 0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:24.880 Doing something that nobody would expect. 0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:26.359 No, you go first. 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:30.600 I'm gonna say Jamie FOXX. I'm gonna say Jamie Fox. 0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:31.840 I like that. 0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.160 That's that's I'm actually not mad at that unexpected. 0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:37.000 I'm gonna start. 0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:43.480 You can't say, are you gonna say? No? 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:45.560 I want to mix it up? 0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:50.400 I said, Jamie was so such a good answer, I 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:51.279 wouldn't go top it. 0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.520 I think you would mix it up Maxwell. 0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:59.080 If you if we were talking jess A, R and 0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.000 B Battle, I think that I think that might be 0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:01.359 a move. 0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:02.680 I think it might be a moved. 0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:03.120 So you're going. 0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.040 But if I pull out any of the pop records, 0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:05.960 you can't do the records. 0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:08.200 That's why Jamie Fox would be good. 0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:10.799 But they got wrapped because he got twenty of the thing. 0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:15.600 Yeah he got twenty, Jamie twenty. Jamis he got features twenty. 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.319 Now you got twenty including features? Yeah, yeah we have Yeah, 0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:21.879 that's that's what you know we're talking about. 0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:30.120 All right, He'll be radio zoom te weekend. 0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:33.080 The total Goodes night is upon us, our croppy head man, 0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.759 the legend himself made mentality. 0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.120 Thank you for having me. Man, come on man, y'all 0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.200 all legends right here. So to sit down right here, 0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.319 to be included in this, this conversation, in this couch, 0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:45.640 it means I did the work, truly. 0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:46.279 That's really so. 0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.640 I feel like you reinvent yourself. Can you use use 0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:55.440 things that's trending to reinvent yourself? So we gotta talk 0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:59.600 about this versus. When did you decide Okay, I'm a 0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.600 remke this flip it? And did you think it was 0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:06.880 going to go viral? Like people so many verses. I 0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.280 don't watch the verses. I watched his recut. 0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:14.680 Yeah that's a mussy listens and shout out to my 0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.640 brother's spice Adams Man like without him and when the 0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:21.560 honeys we connected and just did it organically. But to 0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:23.680 your point of reinvention, I want to talk about that 0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:26.480 for a second because we're in a room full of 0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:29.239 artists right and twenty years ago this same type of 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:32.000 room existed and it was a whole new set of 0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.400 it's a whole different set of artists. They come and 0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:38.760 they go. I don't purposely jump on something that's trendy 0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:40.960 because I'm like, ah, it's gonna be viral or it's 0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.960 gonna I just live in today. I live in the now, 0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.799 and I create from a now space. And so if 0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:48.880 I always stay in that now space, I'm always in 0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:51.279 what the current water flow is as opposed to like 0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.879 creek water or like pond water. It's not dead, it's 0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.080 not stagnant. So you'll never see me talking about what 0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.840 I did last year or ten years ago. So I 0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:01.600 try to stay in that flow of that so that 0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:05.040 that helps me reinvent, like skin cells, like it just 0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:08.840 gradually does it naturally organically, as opposed to trying to 0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:10.839 do it. You're not gonna see me bleaching my skin 0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:12.919 to try to get it, trying to get fresh skin. 0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.920 It just does it on it. The Guard would be 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:17.359 highly disappointed. 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:24.200 About Come on, keys want to represent the light skin 0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:26.960 coalition with pride. You know, I don't need to get. 0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:30.040 No lighter We got together exactly. One of the things 0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:31.719 that I think people don't really give you credit for. 0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.560 Maybe they'll know is how you've turned the business of 0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:38.520 comedy into an actual business or braining content licensing. 0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:39.960 Owning it it. He talked about that a little bit. 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:46.080 Yeah, for sure. I I've always heard not to spend 0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:49.440 your own money, right, And it made sense at first 0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.080 until I keep getting my tax bill at the end 0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.000 of the year, right, and so I'm like, hold on, 0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.640 I'm sending money to dudes who wasn't with me shooting 0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:03.279 in them, and I don't know what they're doing with that, 0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:05.319 and it's a lot of that that I'm sending out. 0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:07.680 So it's like, all right, Well, the way my business 0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:09.880 is set up, if I can expense it, if I 0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.560 could draw my expenses versus my earnings at the end 0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:18.600 of the year, why not investing my own lifestyle and 0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.280 things that I want to spend that money on before 0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:24.560 I have to send it over to those guys until 0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:26.719 I fully learned and maybe y'all can talk about this 0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.480 offline with me, until I learned how to pay three 0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:33.440 hundred dollars like Donald did in taxes and get the 0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:40.520 right loopholes legally, I'm gonna go ahead and do my 0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:42.840 legal version of that, which is I'm gonna invest the 0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:44.759 bread that I got into my own projects. So what 0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:47.719 I do is, for example, I create I shot my 0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.920 own stand up special HBO, Netflix. None of them was 0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:52.520 coming knocking on my door. Not to say that they 0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:54.520 won't eventually, but they didn't really know I was doing 0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:56.879 stand up, So I knew an offer wasn't just gonna 0:38:56.920 --> 0:39:00.799 fly into my doorsteps. So I shot myint and when 0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:04.799 licensed it with Kevin Hart at LOL, that's my brother, 0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.440 licensed it, got it back, and now we're shopping for 0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:08.840 a new deal for it. So I already made that 0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:10.600 money and I'm about to make money on it again. 0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:13.799 So that's pretty much my short term template of how 0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:14.319 I do things. 0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.600 Let me ask you, man, during the time of the verses, 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:20.560 you also took some of that same energy and put 0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:21.840 it towards Kevin Samuels. 0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:22.600 The rest of peace. 0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:26.719 Kevin Samuels, he's no longer here. But when you got 0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:28.839 the news of his passion, you know, because he talked 0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:31.400 about high value man and you know how he spoke 0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:34.040 upon women. How did that affect you? You understand me 0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:36.320 and your platform, like, did you get any feedback on that? 0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:38.440 What was the actual thoughts about Kevin? 0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:42.520 So the main feedback because and I've had to I 0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:44.840 had to talk about this a couple of times, obviously, 0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:48.080 But the character that I do, doctor Devin Fonteined, is 0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.279 a mix of people. I used to do this character 0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:53.279 ain't fintained ten years ago about the flamboyant brother that 0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:55.279 we all know in the hood that ain't comfortable with 0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:58.200 it saying what it really is, right, So I always 0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:00.919 did this. That's why the voice is so like exaggerated 0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:04.600 in cartoony, that's Fontanine. So the more I got into 0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:08.160 imitating this therapist guy, because I always called him Devin, 0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:11.080 it was never straight Kevin Samuels. I started calling him 0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.759 Devin because I didn't really know enough about him. All 0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:15.640 I saw was the little clips that people will send me, 0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:17.480 and I was like, all right, let me just play 0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:20.680 a character that's similar to him that don't really want 0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:22.560 to be on the line even though he's trying to 0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:25.120 help these people. And I just exaggerated it. And the 0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.440 more I got into the voice, it became Fontaine. So 0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:32.280 that's why it wasn't a direct Yeah, it wasn't that personal. 0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:34.120 It wasn't a like when he passed, it wasn't a 0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.719 direct effect on me, like rest in peace to the brother, 0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:39.960 but I had I literally we never met. I don't 0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:42.400 know him like that personally, so you know, he he 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:47.279 created a platform of online therapy that I thought was 0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:50.960 humorous for my character to partake in. So that's really 0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:51.560 the extent of it. 0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.919 When we talked about the business of comedy, we talked 0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:56.719 to Steve Harvey, he was like, you know, when he 0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.920 first started, he never understood business. It was just go 0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:03.080 and tell jokes, and then he understood the business later on. 0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:07.240 But we see a lot of comics now on Instagram, 0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:11.200 but I'm still not sure if they fully understand like 0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:13.920 that comedy it's like music business, right, Like comedy is 0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:17.040 a business. So when did you realize that comedy was 0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:21.040 actually a business? And you what would you say to 0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:24.759 up and coming comics that have a talent but they 0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:26.879 only really know how to make people laugh. 0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:29.279 I knew it was a business from day one. I 0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:31.560 went to college for business. I have a master's degree 0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:35.080 in business. So even back then, when I was a 0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:39.080 broke college student at an HBCU Fable State University shout Out, 0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:41.200 I knew that I was going into the show but 0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:44.400 the entertainment industry, I already had the talent so I 0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.600 didn't waste my college years taking up theater. And I 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:49.040 was like, no, I know I could do that. When 0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:50.600 I get on the stage, I want to know what 0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:53.000 these dudes are talking about on these contracts, and on 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:54.640 these deals I need to be able to talk to 0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.320 my lawyer and be able to communicate and speak the 0:41:56.320 --> 0:42:00.160 same language. So I don't know who understands business. I'm 0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:02.400 not in comedy. But when I look at guys like 0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:04.560 eighty five South, when I look at guys like Desi 0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:08.440 Banks and Hahai Davis, my instinct is that they do know, 0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.600 and that they really created a business model for themselves 0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:13.880 with the help of Steve Harvey, because Steve has been 0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:16.680 og to some of those younger guys to me as well, 0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:22.200 And yeah, it's really about creating a product and being 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.360 able to market it and sell it. And if you 0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:27.799 don't understand as a comedians, as a rapper, as an 0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.360 art whatever, as an actor, that you were also this, 0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:34.600 you're gonna be waiting for the phone to ring and 0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:37.120 to be hired, as opposed to figuring out how to 0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:41.000 package yourself and put yourself on the market to sell 0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:42.279 and take all the money. 0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:44.600 Yeah, so we're here be Et Weekend. 0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:49.560 The awards it coming up on Sunday, talk about the 0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:53.319 importance of having a space where we can celebrate each other. 0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:56.920 The points of this episode is brought to you by 0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.680 P and C Bank. 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We always run 0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:56.920 to the other side to give validation, and if we 0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.279 could just put uside all the competition and all the 0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.640 bickering and all all the nonsense that black people do, 0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:04.680 namely black men who don't sit down when we have 0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:07.560 an issue who have a difference in Me and his 0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:09.719 brother don't even have the same religious beliefs, right, but 0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:11.680 me and his brother break bread. We talk offline. We 0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:14.160 don't even talk about religion. I just see a brother 0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:17.920 that respect and we we just we just comment on 0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:20.919 each other's stuff. We we we we uplift yo. You good, 0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:23.880 you straight, Yo. Let's talk about songs. So when we 0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:27.080 see each other next, if we could just get that unity, 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.719 that that excellency and understand that we are are more 0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:34.160 powerful together, you know what I mean? For me, that's 0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:36.320 what I look forward to seeing. I don't want to 0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:40.400 see another young rapper dead or another all that all 0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.680 that energy is something that we need to push past, 0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.120 and I pray that we do. But that's that's what 0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:47.160 I'm looking forward to this weekend. Is it's to see 0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.880 who shows up in the in the craziest outfit, you 0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:54.600 know what I mean, the sparkly shoes and just has fun, 0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:56.719 you know, being secure in them and who they are, 0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:58.680 and that doesn't rub off on, you know, in a 0:45:58.719 --> 0:45:59.759 negative way to somebody else. 0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:03.080 You know, stories is more powerful than knowledge, man, and 0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:06.160 I think comedians a lot of times get the opportunity 0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:06.920 to tell stories. 0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:10.400 In a way where you're teaching lessons. You understand me that. 0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:13.520 At the same time, medians have been heavily censored. Nowadays, 0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:15.920 they understand me. But I think that it's important to 0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:19.680 allow comedians to go into the dark spaces because that's 0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:21.800 where you bring people out, that's where you get to 0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:24.279 have real conversations and we get to push the curture forward. 0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:28.640 So what's your take on do you censor yourself in 0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:31.480 fear of the so called council culture where nobody actually 0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:32.160 gets counseled. 0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:35.640 And then what's the importance of comedians being able to narrate? 0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.880 And you know, and the king, the court jester was 0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:41.160 able to say anything he wanted to. You feel me. 0:46:41.239 --> 0:46:43.359 He can talk about the king, he can say he's 0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:47.360 a tyrant and everybody laughs. But that's necessary to decompress 0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:50.320 and you know, click that valve of pressure in society. 0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:51.960 So what's your take on that. 0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:55.520 I don't do anything out of fear. I don't respond 0:46:55.880 --> 0:47:01.480 to fear. I said what I said. At the same time, 0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:03.120 if you know me as a human being, I'm a 0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:07.000 very tactful, compassionate guy. I'm very empathetic to people. So 0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:09.800 I'm never trying to talk about anything on stage or 0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:12.480 in my in my humor, that's gonna make somebody feel 0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:15.920 like it's affecting who they are as a person or 0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:20.000 affecting their soul. But there are such things as truths. 0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:23.320 There's some there's some ugly truths out there that we 0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:25.399 got to talk about. And I feel like the faster 0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:28.000 we do that and get comfortable with that, the better 0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:32.000 we are. My guy, good to see you, The better 0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:34.320 we are with being able to push past it. And 0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:37.480 salute to Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle, those guys who 0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:42.200 make it their platform to speak truth. It may not 0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.879 be what everybody likes to hear, but it's what it's 0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:45.440 true to them. 0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:49.839 So you ain't worry about getting slapped on him. You're 0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:51.120 not worry about getting slapped on him. 0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:54.600 You know me. You know what I mean too. 0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:56.600 You know what I study. 0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:01.120 Say that I can't be touched. 0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:06.839 I touched back every man is you know, we're able 0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:09.280 to get to be touched, but is how you respond 0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:09.799 to the touch. 0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:15.360 My last question for you, like being a comedian and 0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:19.399 everybody knows you you're you're a very you know, outgoing person. 0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:22.239 As far as your personality, people come up to you, 0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:24.680 they tell you jokes. Do you ever get tired? 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:25.200 Does that ever? 0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:25.480 Like? 0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:27.799 Yo, bro, I'm not right now is not the time. 0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:30.279 It's like yo, when people come to you'll ask your 0:48:30.400 --> 0:48:33.400 money and my portfolio. Yeah, it's psycho. 0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:35.320 You're like nigga. 0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:39.000 I just want you to walk like about crazy theories 0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:42.640 of the world right now, so you get questions, Yeah, time, 0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:45.719 and you gotta you gotta explain the plight of the 0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:49.520 black man on every tripatory everywhere you go. 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:52.680 Brother, that's so key. So let me let me ask 0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:57.360 you this. They say that black men on the phone 0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:00.680 to getting diabetes. Do you think that beat? This is 0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:06.000 directly connected to what poorn we watch because them booties 0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:08.879 be sweet you like nigga. 0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:13.200 I just tell you to tell you to tap into yourself. 0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:16.200 I appreciate you all man, some good questions. Keep asking 0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:17.239 yourself that right? 0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:19.799 Yeah, I don't. 0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:22.439 Yeah, you know. I love that people show the love 0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:24.879 and they're aware of what I do. But it ain't 0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:27.000 always appropriate. You and walk up to Mike Tyson like, hey, 0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:30.600 you a boxer, punch me and my goddamn face right now? 0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:32.520 In fact, would you do that? 0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:34.000 Could you do that? 0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:35.759 So? 0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:37.040 Nah, man, I just be chilling. 0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:38.839 That's what's up. That's what's up. 0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:39.080 Man. 0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:40.280 I appreciate you, man. 0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:42.440 I appreciate y'all. Man must respect to y'all. Like this 0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:45.600 is a it's a great, a great conversation I've been 0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:46.680 waiting to have with all of us. 0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:53.000 Definitely connect off, let's do it, please do all right? 0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:54.480 So we had this, Like I said, this is what 0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:58.239 I'm most excited about, my god symbol. So I'm a 0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:00.960 big fan of the music and the era that we 0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:05.080 came from is very nostalgic to us, sir, and a 0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:07.640 few people give me that feeling. I got a chance 0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:09.480 to meet Benning the Butcher and I told him that 0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:12.320 and simple and I don't even know if you know this, 0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:15.759 but like I mean your comments like fire, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:18.400 yeah yeah. So my man, that doula. I'm like, you know, 0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.080 simple he like I know him because you repost them 0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:26.960 all the time. So lyrical, giant fanking bro, thank you, 0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:27.560 thank you man. 0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:28.879 Man. 0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:30.759 This is like a breath of like fresh air. Like 0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:33.120 you said, that music that we grew up on. When 0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:36.040 we heard that sound, it was like automatic, like well 0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:36.680 what was that? 0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:37.880 What? 0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:40.440 No, that was the whole point, bro. 0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:43.399 It's like I just was sitting back like a few 0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:46.360 years ago, and I'm just like, I'm trying things. I'm experimenting. 0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:51.120 I'm doing melody music, writing pop songs and APG writing 0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:53.160 for Scooby Doo album, and I just had to sit 0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:56.120 down like man who and Maya as an artist, you 0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:57.680 know what I'm saying. And when I think about it, 0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:01.160 always go back to my uncle's, my mama, you know 0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:03.239 what I mean. They come from that era. So I'm 0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:05.080 really a reflection to them, you know what I mean. 0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:08.280 But I can't just be out here rapping on old beats, 0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:11.040 and it's like, how do we redefine that, you know 0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:13.200 what I mean? How do we make it current for today? 0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:15.880 So that's just literally been my goal is to basically 0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:19.160 bring back that nostalgic feeling just in today's form. 0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:22.120 So you know, I'm from the Bay, I'm from Oakland, 0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:24.480 and I know I always tell people I'm from Oakland. 0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:27.000 That's why I'm so well spoken. Exactly understand me exactly. 0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:28.000 It's a certain energy. 0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:29.840 It's any not on the area. 0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:31.960 You understand you're gonna do it a little different. 0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.080 And I feel like that's what I get in your 0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:36.120 music as well, because there's a lot of sucking shit 0:51:36.160 --> 0:51:36.680 that go off. 0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:39.719 Yeah, but your music is like anti sucker and you 0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:40.359 call it out. 0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:43.759 You feel me so, But at the same time you 0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:46.280 be at your edge where it's like I'm not afraid 0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:47.160 to stand right here. 0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:49.480 You feel me and I'm gonna do a fearless man. 0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:50.399 Where you get that from? 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.479 Like I say, bro, my mama, you know what I'm saying, 0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:57.520 Like my uncle's bro. Like I come from a family 0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:00.600 bro where it's like, I'm supposed to be in jail, right. 0:52:00.760 --> 0:52:03.520 I was born in jail. My mama had me in jail. 0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:07.000 My Auntie went to jail, My uncle Ronnie did ten 0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:09.440 years in jail. My uncle Speedy told on my uncle 0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:12.040 Ryan to get out of jail. My favorite cousin went 0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:14.920 to jail. So it's like, technically jail was supposed to 0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.680 be part of my story. But always seen where they 0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:19.960 would go wrong growing up, you know what I mean. 0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:22.359 And I'd be like, you know what, I ain't about 0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:24.359 to sell dope. I might dabble with a little weed 0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:26.520 here and there against some money, you know what I'm saying, 0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:28.360 But I ain't fucking with cocaine. 0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:29.520 I ain't on that. 0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:29.880 You know what? 0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:32.880 I mean, I ain't Finna just be spinning because somebody 0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:34.879 punched my little nigga in the face. 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:35.600 You know what I'm saying. 0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:37.640 It's like you gotta really do something to me to 0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:40.120 make me want to physically harm you. You know what 0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:43.200 I'm saying. So I just always put that into music. 0:52:43.320 --> 0:52:45.520 You know, it's wrong, it's uncut. It's how I feel 0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:47.920 most people scared to say how they feel. It's just 0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:50.680 how you gonna help somebody get through life if you 0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:52.439 can't communicate what you going through. 0:52:52.600 --> 0:52:58.880 You know, I feel like it's a thin line between 0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:01.399 like the type of music got you making. So it's 0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:04.000 so nostalgic to me because it's like, Nah's my favorite 0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:07.400 rapper of all time, right, and Na's always he was 0:53:07.400 --> 0:53:09.960 always like a positive vibe, but he was never a 0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:12.440 positive rapper, Like you know what I'm saying. He's still 0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:14.760 a street dude, but he could always get a message 0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:17.319 of positivity where it's like some of the like more 0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:19.360 they put you in a box. It's a positive rapper, 0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:21.480 it's hard to ever get out that box. 0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:22.640 You. 0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:25.239 I kind of look at like that like like it 0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:26.800 was written, like you know what I'm saying. When I 0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:30.360 listened to your music and it's like Big Farmer do 0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:32.600 some more dope than Big Niche. You know what I'm saying. 0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:33.600 It's messages. 0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:35.720 It's a fact though, but it's vibes. 0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:36.759 Like you know what I'm saying, it's vibe. 0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:39.400 You got the Cardier frames on. It's it's not ultra 0:53:39.920 --> 0:53:41.840 preachy do that on purpose. 0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:44.279 So I'm front like, Bro just said, we're from the Bay. 0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:44.480 Bro. 0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:47.240 You know what I'm saying. We from the Panthers. 0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:48.399 You know what I'm saying. 0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:51.080 We were gonna have some information. But at the same time, 0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:53.200 this shit in us, it ain't on us. It's it's 0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:56.880 Is'm Bro. I grew up knocking women playing ball. 0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:57.279 You know. 0:53:57.400 --> 0:53:59.480 I was that nigga in school. I didn't get hot 0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:03.200 in music and became cool. I was always cool, you 0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:06.120 know what I'm saying before I was doing music, you 0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:08.279 know what I'm saying. So it's like that has to 0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:10.880 be shown in the music. And that's no offense to 0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.919 you know, the spiritual rappers or the conscious rappers, because 0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:17.200 we need them too. But at the same time, Bro, 0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:19.640 it's a lack of cool niggas you know what I 0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:22.080 mean in the industry, and we all just can't be 0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:26.520 on this gangster shit just shooting everybody. It's just like, bro, 0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:29.560 come on, we all ain't killing everybody. Bro, It's more 0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:31.880 good going on in the ghetto than bad. It's just 0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:34.080 the bad it's more publicized, you know what I'm saying. 0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:36.080 I'm just here to speak on the good and call 0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:37.720 out the sucker shit like bro, sit. 0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:40.920 You know so so that that moment that La leak 0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:43.640 is freestyle, I feel like that's when the world was 0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:44.480 put on noted. 0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:46.319 For sure, that sure I was coming for sure? 0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:47.640 What was the more? 0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:50.080 How did that more feel to you? Like you've been 0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:52.600 working at this right and you've got this moment to 0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:55.640 Sean and if exploded? What was that moment that what 0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:56.879 it feels like to you at that time? 0:54:56.920 --> 0:55:02.520 About damn Tom, I've been out here both Bro, I 0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:05.200 didn't look at my big brother, small big. 0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:05.719 Brother right there. 0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:09.000 Hurricane yeah, bay area. 0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:11.680 So you know, be having a black cloud on it, 0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:12.160 you feel. 0:55:12.160 --> 0:55:14.080 I mean, yeah, there's a lot of talent in the Bay, 0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:17.000 but it don't really get shown to break out, what 0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:20.000 you think, because but now I'm saying, you know, individuals 0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:23.680 such as yourself, LaRusso, and I feel like the internet 0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:27.439 allows you to navigate that black cloud you feel when 0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:29.640 you was in then coming out of the game Number one, 0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:31.320 who did you look up to in the Bay Area 0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:35.279 and did you feel like being a Bay Area rapper 0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:36.840 you was gonna have that cloud and not be able to. 0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:39.560 Expand on For sure. That was the reason I moved out. 0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:43.440 Like I grew up on Short forty, Max dre Keithy, 0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:46.480 Sneak turf Talk, you know what I mean. Like I 0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:49.800 grew up listening to Bay music. But my mom, my 0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:52.759 mom bury business minded. So my mom was in the 0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:56.520 real estate early, so she had homes in Texas, Vegas, 0:55:56.840 --> 0:55:59.680 Atlantic City, and I would always move around as a kid. 0:56:00.000 --> 0:56:02.920 I know this Bay music wasn't being played in these places, 0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:05.320 and then when I would play it, people wouldn't get it, 0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:05.880 you know what I mean. 0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:08.759 The tempo might beat you fast or whatever it may be. 0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:11.200 So when I started doing music, I was like, damn, 0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:13.600 I want to be the person that keep that bait 0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:17.640 authenticity in my content but still make the sound of 0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:20.000 it universal enough to where the world could get it. 0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:22.239 And I feel like in the Bay the reason we 0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:25.920 got that black cloud is because we got a limited 0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:28.880 amount of black people in California, you feel me. So 0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:31.440 when you going to South, you got black restaurant owners, 0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:35.520 black hookah spot owners, black car washes, which gives black 0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:36.799 music more platforms. 0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:40.640 Right over here we got very minimum of that. 0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:42.520 So I feel like a lot of artists feel like 0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:45.600 it's a certain amount of seats and success or when 0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:48.160 somebody else win, it like they took your spot. 0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:49.839 When it's like, nah, we all could win. 0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:52.719 We just got to ask questions and communicate with each 0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:54.359 other to figure out a way to help each other 0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:55.000 get to the goal. 0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:56.920 Yeap, I rock with up. 0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:59.880 Your mom was in real estate? Are you invested in 0:57:00.480 --> 0:57:02.839 I'm getting into it. I'm getting into it. My mom 0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:05.239 been on me about it for years. I just been 0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:09.080 so psycho with this rap, just driven, just tunnel vision, 0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:10.239 you know what I mean. I ain't want to do 0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:13.360 nothing else. But now that you know, my finances is 0:57:13.640 --> 0:57:15.920 growing and I'm getting a lot better, my mom put 0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:17.560 me in position to do a lot of shit. I'm 0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:20.320 actually trying to get a duplex right now, you feel me. 0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:23.000 So that's definitely something I want to get into. And 0:57:23.840 --> 0:57:25.960 after my rap career, I want to be an architect, 0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:27.840 you know what I mean? So I want to design 0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:31.040 homes and buildings and kitchens and all kinds of things. 0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:32.560 What it's about, That's what it's about. 0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:36.280 So obviously the freestyle goes crazy, the goats that goes 0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:39.120 out going crazy to shout out to that, we all go, yeah, 0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:41.960 how have the business opportunities been a coming to you? 0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:44.760 Like how people approach you? What's your status of independent? 0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:46.160 Where what's going to come here? 0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:48.720 So I'm on a major, I'm signed to Atlantic, but 0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:51.080 I move like I'm independent, you know what I mean. 0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:54.800 We actually getting ready to start my label. I don't 0:57:54.880 --> 0:57:56.680 like calling it a label, but that's how most people 0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:58.920 can understand what it is. But we're getting ready to 0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:02.080 start our company and it's called Majority Rules, and the 0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:04.960 whole idea of it is to be a brochure for artists. Right, 0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:07.800 So when artists get this money when they first get signed, 0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:10.040 don't nobody tell you what to do with it, right, 0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:11.720 You just get the money and it's like, I ain't 0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:13.680 never had it. So I'm finna go get all the 0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:15.800 clothes I want it. I'm finna go knock the bitch 0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:18.200 I couldn't get two months ago. I'm finna go get 0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:21.120 the crib. I'm finna go eat where I couldn't eat right, 0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:23.160 and then you look back three months down the line 0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:25.120 and you broke, and then you're looking at the label 0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:27.000 like what y'all doing. Y'all supposed to be helping me 0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:29.400 get money when it's like in a actuality nigga, you 0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:31.360 was supposed to take that money and go get an 0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:34.320 independent publicist, you feel me, Go get a camera man, 0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:36.920 Go get a strategic go get a digital team. So 0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:39.680 we want to be the people that signed digital teams, 0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:43.080 sign creative people, signed producers and songwriters. So when artists 0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:44.920 get that money, they can come to us and we 0:58:44.960 --> 0:58:46.960 could break it down. Okay, bro, this is just a 0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:49.080 producer you could work with. It's somebody that can help 0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:51.520 you creatively, and they'll have an infrastructure up under them 0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:53.200 and they ain't gotta lose so much money in the 0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:54.120 process of doing that. 0:58:55.080 --> 0:58:58.600 Now, I think what you represent is very important because, 0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:01.000 like you said, it's like I can just regular people 0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:04.520 in the music business. Everybody's a drug addict, everybody's a killer, 0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:06.560 but it's like the majority of people aren't like that. 0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:11.120 And when I hear you speak, you sound sober, and 0:59:11.440 --> 0:59:14.120 that's something that is rare. That's rare. 0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:16.440 I'm saw stup on the tequila right now, by the way. 0:59:17.600 --> 0:59:19.840 But even when I say sober, I just don't mean 0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:23.640 from drugs. I mean yes, humility, just yeah. You just 0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:26.000 sound like you got common sense, like you know what 0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:28.840 I'm saying. And I appreciate that. I think a lot 0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:31.960 of times we talked to artists and it's like, damn, bro, like, 0:59:32.120 --> 0:59:33.520 just speak to me like a regular person. 0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:36.520 But it's like some of them don't know how you 0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:38.760 know what I mean, Like some of these kids where 0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:44.760 you gotta think you have a little TOUTO from Jacksonville, Florida, right, 0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:47.320 and he made a song in his closet with his 0:59:47.440 --> 0:59:49.960 homies about some issues they was having with some niggas 0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:53.880 from up the street, and some little suburban kid posted 0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:57.200 this on TikTok and it went viral and the world 0:59:57.320 --> 0:59:59.920 found out about it, and then labels started calling them. 1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:02.360 They flying him to La, they throwing him in these 1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:05.360 big studios, they putting them with the producers. He don't 1:00:05.360 --> 1:00:08.480 even know what to do. It's all new for him. 1:00:08.520 --> 1:00:10.080 He ain't never had to sit in front of a 1:00:10.160 --> 1:00:12.720 camera and talk to nobody. Like I said, I've been 1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:15.479 popular in my whole life, So I had to argue 1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:18.120 with my teachers, you know what I'm saying. I had 1:00:18.160 --> 1:00:20.880 to fight with my basketball coach. Like I'm used to 1:00:21.000 --> 1:00:23.920 talking to people. Some people in them environments, they're not 1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:26.720 used to talking or telling what's going on. So we 1:00:26.840 --> 1:00:29.840 can't blame them for that. We just have to educate 1:00:29.920 --> 1:00:32.440 them and help them navigate through that. But at the 1:00:32.480 --> 1:00:34.120 same time, niggas gotta want to help. 1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:37.280 Man, you didn't been on a lot of platforms, man, 1:00:37.440 --> 1:00:38.120 Jimmy Kimmel. 1:00:38.760 --> 1:00:43.000 People like, it's interesting because I feel like, kind of 1:00:43.120 --> 1:00:46.040 like myself right when somebody's seen me on the platform, 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:47.640 it's like something that's not supposed to be there. 1:00:47.640 --> 1:00:52.440 It's an enigma. You feel me, and somehow you challenge 1:00:52.480 --> 1:00:54.440 that and navigate. Like I feel like we're in an 1:00:54.480 --> 1:00:57.200 era where it's a glitch and a matrix. 1:00:57.520 --> 1:00:59.760 You feel me, and it ain't even really a question 1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:03.840 more so about you know, maintaining that integrity that you got. 1:01:04.080 --> 1:01:06.200 You understand me just along that path, because I could 1:01:06.240 --> 1:01:07.040 just see the future. 1:01:07.400 --> 1:01:10.240 Are you growing and see the brand developing and people 1:01:10.320 --> 1:01:12.200 really rocking with that, and you're creating a whole new 1:01:12.320 --> 1:01:14.760 archetype that people can follow as a blueprint. 1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:15.640 You understand me. 1:01:15.720 --> 1:01:19.280 People love Nipsey because of what he represented. You feel me, 1:01:19.640 --> 1:01:21.320 and then you got that same representation. 1:01:21.400 --> 1:01:24.920 So half of the shit I'm speaking on and how 1:01:24.960 --> 1:01:27.240 I was able to find out about this information was 1:01:27.280 --> 1:01:31.000 from Nipsey. I met Nipsey in twenty twelve and eight 1:01:31.040 --> 1:01:33.520 three Sea Fence in Atlanta. And this is when the 1:01:33.600 --> 1:01:36.080 wee cookies that just came out right, and we was 1:01:36.080 --> 1:01:38.520 the only niggas with cookies in the bay. So we 1:01:38.680 --> 1:01:40.560 got something to the eighth right. We was in the 1:01:40.600 --> 1:01:44.160 club club compound smoking and I feel somebody tap me. 1:01:44.920 --> 1:01:47.840 He like, hey, bro, y'all got some of that for 1:01:47.960 --> 1:01:49.880 sale with y'all smoking, you feel me? I'm like, man, 1:01:49.920 --> 1:01:51.480 it's some new shit. I'm like, nigg I'm a fan 1:01:51.560 --> 1:01:53.160 of you. I ain't gonna sell you no weed, but 1:01:53.520 --> 1:01:54.480 we could smoke together. 1:01:54.680 --> 1:01:55.080 You feel me. 1:01:55.720 --> 1:01:57.880 He talked it up that night. He gave me his number. 1:01:57.920 --> 1:02:00.640 He said, man, whenever you in La, hit me. I 1:02:00.840 --> 1:02:02.600 lied to the nigger. I say, I live in La. 1:02:02.680 --> 1:02:03.560 I'll be there Monday. 1:02:04.040 --> 1:02:04.560 You feel me? 1:02:04.880 --> 1:02:05.880 He like, all right in me. 1:02:06.360 --> 1:02:09.040 I flew back to the bait, got my car and 1:02:09.200 --> 1:02:09.960 drove to La. 1:02:10.360 --> 1:02:10.760 You feel me? 1:02:10.760 --> 1:02:11.280 I ain't have a. 1:02:11.320 --> 1:02:13.800 Hotel room nothing. I just drove out there and I 1:02:13.880 --> 1:02:15.840 got to the Grapevine. I was like, bro, I'm in LA. 1:02:15.960 --> 1:02:18.800 I just got back where you at. Twenty minutes later 1:02:18.840 --> 1:02:20.840 he sent me an address. He said, I'm at the studio. 1:02:20.960 --> 1:02:21.360 Pull up. 1:02:21.760 --> 1:02:23.920 I went to the studio. You had a studio downtown. 1:02:24.600 --> 1:02:27.720 Went to the studio, uh, and we had a conversation. 1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:30.040 He gave me his book, The twenty two Immutable Laws 1:02:30.240 --> 1:02:33.880 of Brandon Right, and that book taught me how to 1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:37.120 stop looking at myself as an individual and how to 1:02:37.240 --> 1:02:38.840 grow my identity as a business. 1:02:39.440 --> 1:02:40.080 You know what I mean. 1:02:40.160 --> 1:02:44.680 So everything that I'm speaking on majority rules, The reason 1:02:44.760 --> 1:02:47.000 I stuck in that one lane and just rapping it 1:02:47.160 --> 1:02:48.680 comes from that book that Nip gave me. 1:02:49.280 --> 1:02:50.240 So rest in peace to. 1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:50.920 The goat man. 1:02:51.040 --> 1:02:54.320 That's a fact. So the album is on the way, sir. 1:02:55.120 --> 1:02:56.680 They always say you got your whole life to make 1:02:56.720 --> 1:02:58.600 your first album, that's sir, at three months to make 1:02:58.680 --> 1:02:59.120 it second? 1:02:59.520 --> 1:02:59.640 Sir? 1:03:00.000 --> 1:03:02.800 Do you feel any pressure for this debut? 1:03:03.360 --> 1:03:06.080 Right, because obviously we come up, we know Ellmatic and 1:03:06.120 --> 1:03:08.480 we know we know these debuts obviously get rich of 1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:08.959 not trying. 1:03:10.000 --> 1:03:12.080 What what's the emotional building up to this moment. 1:03:12.960 --> 1:03:15.800 Man, My thing bro is just really it ain't even 1:03:15.880 --> 1:03:19.440 about like trying to go platinum or like impressing everybody. 1:03:19.520 --> 1:03:21.360 It's just more so fine and where more of my 1:03:21.480 --> 1:03:24.040 fans are, you know what I mean? Knowing what they 1:03:24.200 --> 1:03:26.040 like to drink, knowing what they like to eat, knowing 1:03:26.080 --> 1:03:28.520 where they like to shop. That's really what I'm most 1:03:28.560 --> 1:03:30.919 excited about. So I don't really feel no pressure because 1:03:30.960 --> 1:03:33.200 I don't get into other people's expectations of what they 1:03:33.280 --> 1:03:35.280 feel I should be doing, you know what I mean. 1:03:35.440 --> 1:03:37.800 And I didn't done this for too long, and I'm 1:03:37.880 --> 1:03:39.560 damn good at it, you know what I mean. So 1:03:39.680 --> 1:03:41.800 I know anything I drop it ain't gonna be wet, 1:03:42.280 --> 1:03:42.960 you know what I mean. 1:03:43.480 --> 1:03:44.680 So I'm I'm I don't. 1:03:44.680 --> 1:03:46.560 I don't feel no pressure at all. I'm just really 1:03:46.600 --> 1:03:48.720 excited to get the music out more than anything. 1:03:50.680 --> 1:03:52.280 All Right, we got, we got, we gotta rap. But 1:03:52.480 --> 1:03:54.360 it's just one last thing I want to say. Not 1:03:54.400 --> 1:03:55.560 even a question, it's a request. 1:03:55.640 --> 1:03:55.880 Okay. 1:03:56.000 --> 1:03:57.840 I met all three of you now, and I'm glad 1:03:57.840 --> 1:03:59.720 that I met all three of you. You were actually 1:03:59.800 --> 1:04:02.200 how I thought you would be. I would like to 1:04:02.240 --> 1:04:06.120 see this collaboration Toby, Benny and Simba. 1:04:06.840 --> 1:04:09.560 Easy call Benny my brother. I just was with Bennie 1:04:09.640 --> 1:04:11.080 last night, gotta be. 1:04:11.240 --> 1:04:13.160 I never met Toby, but I'm a big fan of 1:04:13.600 --> 1:04:16.760 super Bowl through Humble, big fan of his big put 1:04:16.800 --> 1:04:18.080 it together. Appreciate you. 1:04:18.200 --> 1:04:19.760 We're gonna make sure we link back up too. 1:04:20.400 --> 1:04:23.439 Not for sure, I'm gonna keep going forward to move, 1:04:23.520 --> 1:04:23.920 but I like that. 1:04:24.160 --> 1:04:29.440 Listen, all right, We're here with the lovely beer. Thank 1:04:29.480 --> 1:04:32.800 you for joining us. Appreciate it, appreciated vibes. How you 1:04:32.920 --> 1:04:35.120 how you how you like the BT experience the weekend? 1:04:35.200 --> 1:04:36.080 This is your first time coming? 1:04:36.640 --> 1:04:39.120 Actually yeah, this is my first real This is actually 1:04:39.160 --> 1:04:41.800 my first real time coming. It's my first time being nominated. 1:04:42.200 --> 1:04:44.000 So it's a different it's a different vibe. 1:04:44.600 --> 1:04:46.480 What's that what's that feeling like when you heard the 1:04:46.600 --> 1:04:50.560 news that something that you created is now being recognized 1:04:50.680 --> 1:04:52.680 from people that look like us, a platform that's built 1:04:53.040 --> 1:04:53.440 by us. 1:04:53.680 --> 1:04:54.440 What's that feeling like? 1:04:55.200 --> 1:04:57.240 When you know you watched the BT Awards your whole 1:04:57.320 --> 1:05:00.120 life and I've always been an artist, It's like, when 1:05:00.120 --> 1:05:01.480 am I gonna get on the BET Awards? What am 1:05:01.480 --> 1:05:03.640 I gonna get on the BET Awards? And now it's 1:05:03.760 --> 1:05:06.600 just like it's just surreal. It's like it really happened. 1:05:06.640 --> 1:05:09.800 I'm like, it's crazy. God is great man for real. 1:05:11.360 --> 1:05:13.720 I'm imma ask you something a little different. I've been 1:05:14.040 --> 1:05:14.880 lately saying it's. 1:05:14.720 --> 1:05:17.360 Something called soft life, where it's like, because you got 1:05:17.400 --> 1:05:19.480 a very soft voice, but at the same time, in 1:05:19.560 --> 1:05:22.400 command's presence, you understand me. And the soft life is 1:05:22.440 --> 1:05:25.040 about like black and brown women not needing to be 1:05:25.120 --> 1:05:28.480 displayed like tough, but they can be softening, feminine energy 1:05:28.560 --> 1:05:31.280 and like show joy and laughter. You feel me what 1:05:31.440 --> 1:05:32.120 you feel about that. 1:05:32.480 --> 1:05:33.480 I love that you say that. 1:05:33.720 --> 1:05:36.400 Nobody ever says anything like that, and I'm glad because 1:05:36.600 --> 1:05:39.160 you know, I grew up in an era where it 1:05:39.320 --> 1:05:42.200 was like the nineties, early two thousands, it was very 1:05:42.320 --> 1:05:46.040 like Aliyah, and you know, it was just a different vibe. 1:05:46.080 --> 1:05:49.120 It was very like Flag Girls, and you know, just 1:05:49.200 --> 1:05:52.040 a different vibe. So I've always felt like, as an artist, 1:05:52.120 --> 1:05:54.720 I just want to be myself and whoever that translates 1:05:54.760 --> 1:05:57.560 with is who it translates with, and just not have 1:05:57.680 --> 1:06:00.520 to fit into a mold that people wanted me to 1:06:00.560 --> 1:06:02.840 fit into. When I first started making music. 1:06:03.040 --> 1:06:03.680 That's beautiful. 1:06:03.680 --> 1:06:04.040 I love it. 1:06:04.120 --> 1:06:04.320 Thank you. 1:06:04.400 --> 1:06:05.040 I appreciate that. 1:06:05.320 --> 1:06:08.480 So how was it like working with Coole? I was 1:06:08.600 --> 1:06:09.400 like working with j Cole. 1:06:09.840 --> 1:06:11.200 Oh, Cole is amazing. 1:06:11.360 --> 1:06:11.520 Man. 1:06:12.240 --> 1:06:15.760 Cole's actually like my favorite artist to this day, like 1:06:15.960 --> 1:06:18.000 just because of who he is as a person and 1:06:18.240 --> 1:06:20.480 like not only how talented he is and the way 1:06:20.520 --> 1:06:23.000 he pushes his pen, Like he make me every time 1:06:23.040 --> 1:06:25.080 I go in the booth. Now I'm like, I got 1:06:25.200 --> 1:06:27.600 to push my pen for real, like j Cole is 1:06:27.640 --> 1:06:28.040 watching me. 1:06:30.160 --> 1:06:31.400 I can't lett J Cole dew. 1:06:32.320 --> 1:06:34.919 That song is dope, The video is dope. The whole 1:06:35.000 --> 1:06:36.640 London vibe is dope. What inspired that? 1:06:38.360 --> 1:06:42.040 It's crazy because we love London and I think Jake 1:06:42.080 --> 1:06:45.160 Cole actually spent some time in London too, like extended 1:06:45.200 --> 1:06:48.640 period of time. So when we had a show out there, 1:06:48.960 --> 1:06:50.600 so we were just gearing up to go to London 1:06:50.640 --> 1:06:52.120 and I was like, all right, I'm getting in my 1:06:52.200 --> 1:06:54.000 London bag and I just like to have fun when 1:06:54.000 --> 1:06:56.520 I'm in the studio, and that's what that song was. 1:06:56.760 --> 1:06:58.960 I wasn't even expecting Jake Cole to get on it, like, 1:06:59.080 --> 1:07:01.120 to be honest, I just wanted to play it for him. 1:07:01.720 --> 1:07:04.760 What about Crypto, I've seen you do the collaboration with 1:07:04.880 --> 1:07:06.840 the crypto actually did like a little remix to it 1:07:07.120 --> 1:07:09.800 because I love that fact. Could I always say, you know, 1:07:10.240 --> 1:07:12.280 I say crypto in your person, not in your wallet. 1:07:12.120 --> 1:07:13.439 Right, That's how I teach it to women. 1:07:13.920 --> 1:07:16.000 So what do you feel about the industry of women 1:07:16.080 --> 1:07:19.520 actually understanding this new age financial technology and stuff. 1:07:19.960 --> 1:07:22.320 Well, I just feel like as a woman, the more 1:07:22.440 --> 1:07:24.640 things you can put your money into, the better, Like 1:07:25.000 --> 1:07:27.440 whether that be real estate, whether that be a makeup brand, 1:07:27.520 --> 1:07:31.440 whether that be a salon. Crypto, Like, for me, crypto 1:07:31.600 --> 1:07:33.720 was so scary at first because I'm like, I don't 1:07:33.760 --> 1:07:36.320 know much about stocks, but it's actually like a lot 1:07:36.440 --> 1:07:38.400 easier once you get your foot in and you just 1:07:38.880 --> 1:07:41.360 try it out more. People need to just like do 1:07:41.520 --> 1:07:43.560 a little bit of crypto and then take it a 1:07:43.640 --> 1:07:47.080 little bit and grow. You're really good with the crypto 1:07:47.200 --> 1:07:47.800 I know about you. 1:07:49.480 --> 1:07:50.840 You got some tips. 1:07:52.640 --> 1:07:54.840 Anything I should anything I should invest. 1:07:54.560 --> 1:07:55.200 In while I'm here? 1:07:56.120 --> 1:07:56.960 What are you invested in? 1:07:58.440 --> 1:08:02.120 Like random stuff? But like stocks that like people will 1:08:02.160 --> 1:08:03.560 tell me like, oh, you should invest in this. I 1:08:03.640 --> 1:08:05.960 might go get a couple of those, but really stuff 1:08:06.000 --> 1:08:07.960 that like I use in the long term, So like 1:08:08.040 --> 1:08:10.160 I have a lot of like long term stocks. 1:08:09.840 --> 1:08:11.680 And like just stuff like that about say, we're not 1:08:11.720 --> 1:08:12.840 investing in bout tago. 1:08:13.640 --> 1:08:14.400 Actually I haven't. 1:08:15.080 --> 1:08:15.520 I haven't. 1:08:16.400 --> 1:08:18.400 They got to like pay me for me to invest 1:08:18.439 --> 1:08:18.760 in them. 1:08:18.680 --> 1:08:23.120 For so obviously being a newer artist, what's it been 1:08:23.280 --> 1:08:24.960 like for you being accepted in this industry? 1:08:25.080 --> 1:08:25.200 Right? 1:08:25.280 --> 1:08:27.280 Like, I feel like we came in with such a 1:08:27.360 --> 1:08:29.200 heat rock. It was like who is this girl? We 1:08:29.320 --> 1:08:31.040 love her? What's it been like for you just over 1:08:31.080 --> 1:08:31.640 this past year? 1:08:32.200 --> 1:08:35.120 Well, most people know I'm not a newer artist, like 1:08:35.240 --> 1:08:37.840 I've been out for like ten years. It's just I 1:08:38.040 --> 1:08:41.760 was like shelled. I had like a situation that wasn't 1:08:41.800 --> 1:08:43.960 right for me at the for a while, so nobody 1:08:44.040 --> 1:08:46.240 really knew my music like that. People just knew me, 1:08:46.520 --> 1:08:48.599 you know. So now I'm at the point where people 1:08:48.800 --> 1:08:51.640 are able to attach the face with the music and 1:08:51.760 --> 1:08:53.519 now they see like, oh, it's a real person. 1:08:54.000 --> 1:08:56.160 It's been a glass so ten years, yeah, they didn't 1:08:56.160 --> 1:08:57.599 know And now that what is that experience been? 1:08:57.640 --> 1:08:57.680 Like? 1:08:57.760 --> 1:08:57.840 Yo? 1:08:57.960 --> 1:09:01.840 Finally it feels like hard work pays off and it 1:09:01.960 --> 1:09:04.599 really just feels like you can never stop the motion, 1:09:04.840 --> 1:09:07.280 like it's always gonna be up and down motion. 1:09:07.400 --> 1:09:09.280 You just gotta find your motion. 1:09:10.560 --> 1:09:12.720 How is life for you these days? I know, like 1:09:13.240 --> 1:09:16.479 once you get up and running, everything comes at you 1:09:17.200 --> 1:09:19.680 and so many people hitting you up. It's hard to 1:09:19.720 --> 1:09:23.000 answer text messages like are you enjoying that? Because I 1:09:23.000 --> 1:09:24.840 already know you going through it because we go through it. 1:09:25.040 --> 1:09:26.599 Yo, is a question you just asked. 1:09:26.640 --> 1:09:27.400 That's a great question. 1:09:27.680 --> 1:09:29.800 Join out you feel guilty about Like that's the. 1:09:29.840 --> 1:09:32.840 Hardest part for me. It's like finding that balance of 1:09:33.120 --> 1:09:38.000 like I'm so busy and I love being busy, Like 1:09:38.040 --> 1:09:39.800 I would never not want to be as busy as 1:09:39.840 --> 1:09:42.679 I am now. But it's like finding sleep, find and eat, 1:09:42.840 --> 1:09:46.120 finding family, like those things are not being able to 1:09:46.160 --> 1:09:48.960 respond right away because it's like people think that I'm 1:09:49.000 --> 1:09:50.160 at the dispos on my. 1:09:50.200 --> 1:09:52.439 Phone and I do not have my phone nine times 1:09:52.479 --> 1:09:53.120 out of ten, so. 1:09:53.680 --> 1:09:56.360 You know, people take it's like everything gets people take 1:09:56.360 --> 1:09:59.160 it way more personal and they don't know what it's 1:09:59.280 --> 1:10:00.000 like on this life. 1:10:00.680 --> 1:10:06.120 Yeah, yeah, on everything. 1:10:06.320 --> 1:10:10.200 Absolutely, pleasure get into you. 1:10:10.439 --> 1:10:13.920 Thank you for joining us, bro appreciate it. I said, 1:10:13.960 --> 1:10:15.080 thank you for joining I appreciate it. 1:10:16.439 --> 1:10:19.160 It's fun again, I ain't something like this, you know, 1:10:19.240 --> 1:10:22.120 in a minute. Even bringing the culture together the dude, 1:10:22.479 --> 1:10:24.240 you know, the pol taking the culture is different. 1:10:26.120 --> 1:10:29.160 So so we see you at a lot of different events. 1:10:29.200 --> 1:10:31.080 What's the what's the power of networking? A lot of 1:10:31.120 --> 1:10:36.560 times people artists, entertainers, entrepreneurs, they don't fully understand, Like 1:10:36.680 --> 1:10:39.240 even this room right here, right going around, you probably 1:10:39.360 --> 1:10:41.080 might not even want to do this, But what's the 1:10:41.240 --> 1:10:44.559 power of networking getting out there, making relationships, shaking hand 1:10:44.640 --> 1:10:44.920 things to that? 1:10:45.000 --> 1:10:50.080 Na shuld I think there's a simple beauty and collaboration, 1:10:50.760 --> 1:10:53.479 you know. However you can imagine that. 1:10:54.400 --> 1:10:54.519 Man. 1:10:54.600 --> 1:10:58.479 I feel like everybody's passion is like a puzzle piece, 1:10:59.120 --> 1:11:03.000 you know, so everybody gotta like somehow come together we 1:11:03.120 --> 1:11:05.880 make the picture, you know, and you never know who 1:11:05.920 --> 1:11:08.080 you might meet on any given day, you know. And 1:11:08.160 --> 1:11:10.280 I feel like, you know, obviously, bringing people together in 1:11:10.360 --> 1:11:12.840 one room, it's almost like a free for all, you know. 1:11:12.960 --> 1:11:14.400 So it's really about what you do with it. You know, 1:11:15.400 --> 1:11:17.320 you got to be a people person. You can't be 1:11:18.479 --> 1:11:19.960 you can't be shot, you can't be. 1:11:21.520 --> 1:11:21.880 Quiet. 1:11:22.400 --> 1:11:24.840 You know, speak up, you know, speak speak your truth, 1:11:25.080 --> 1:11:27.559 you know, speak your story, you know, and the rest 1:11:27.640 --> 1:11:28.120 is history. 1:11:28.640 --> 1:11:30.600 Yeah. Yeah, one of the things you spoke about is 1:11:30.640 --> 1:11:33.320 passions and so we've seen you with the music. 1:11:33.360 --> 1:11:35.599 Obviously that's one of your passions. But I think people 1:11:35.640 --> 1:11:37.880 have underrated you in the acting field. That's one of 1:11:37.920 --> 1:11:40.240 the things that you know, seeing you in power. 1:11:41.320 --> 1:11:43.559 What did you discover the power the passion for acting. 1:11:44.560 --> 1:11:48.040 I think growing up being exposed to so much at 1:11:48.080 --> 1:11:51.800 a young age, and that's just like traveling so many 1:11:51.840 --> 1:11:55.320 different places, being exposed to so many different cultures, like 1:11:55.400 --> 1:11:59.439 culture shocks, you know, which ultimately allows you to grow 1:11:59.520 --> 1:12:01.599 at a young age early, you know, and you're able 1:12:01.640 --> 1:12:05.120 to really like become a chameleon, you know, and so 1:12:05.280 --> 1:12:07.280 on top of who I am and my personality, you know, 1:12:07.360 --> 1:12:09.960 my mom always you know how they say, boy, you're 1:12:09.960 --> 1:12:13.400 a character. You know, like you say that every day 1:12:14.560 --> 1:12:18.880 for years. You know, eventually you become one, you know, 1:12:19.000 --> 1:12:21.400 but still you're you. And she was like, you know, 1:12:21.439 --> 1:12:24.760 they got to industry for that. But I would never 1:12:25.200 --> 1:12:27.599 really want to, you know, claim it up until obviously 1:12:27.640 --> 1:12:29.960 I was growing up and realize, oh, this is a 1:12:30.040 --> 1:12:32.360 space for me. Actually, I thought you had to just 1:12:32.439 --> 1:12:34.800 be like picked, you know, I ain't know you can 1:12:34.880 --> 1:12:37.320 actually like put yourself forward and you know, really do it. 1:12:37.680 --> 1:12:37.840 You know. 1:12:37.920 --> 1:12:39.680 Back then when she was telling me, So she's all 1:12:39.720 --> 1:12:40.240 about growing. 1:12:40.600 --> 1:12:42.639 You know what about legacy? 1:12:42.720 --> 1:12:46.400 Man? I feel like your family as a family of brothers, 1:12:46.439 --> 1:12:48.839 each one of you all have your own individual presence, 1:12:49.280 --> 1:12:51.439 but collectively y'all represent a legacy. 1:12:51.760 --> 1:12:52.439 You understand me. 1:12:52.520 --> 1:12:54.760 And I was just looking up some as far as like, 1:12:54.880 --> 1:12:57.360 you know, y'all do the dances and dancing it's one 1:12:57.360 --> 1:12:59.960 of the most spiritual rituals known to man. And y'all 1:13:00.120 --> 1:13:02.360 like bring energy and joy at the same time. And 1:13:02.439 --> 1:13:06.000 y'all representation. You understand me, y'all bring people together. What 1:13:06.120 --> 1:13:09.160 do you feel like just as a collective and as individual, 1:13:09.240 --> 1:13:11.400 what y'all represent for the culture as a family of 1:13:11.560 --> 1:13:13.759 like black men putting out that energy. 1:13:14.360 --> 1:13:17.320 You know, family is everything. 1:13:18.640 --> 1:13:21.439 Not to sound cliche, but you know, growing up you 1:13:21.560 --> 1:13:23.760 realize that importance, and you realize the unity and that 1:13:23.880 --> 1:13:26.320 and the power and that and where that could go. 1:13:26.960 --> 1:13:29.479 And then next thing, you know, friends become family, and 1:13:29.600 --> 1:13:32.000 then next thing you know, you know what I mean, 1:13:32.800 --> 1:13:36.880 it's that effect and nothing beats that. And I feel 1:13:36.920 --> 1:13:39.559 like whatever we want to do and apply that factor, 1:13:41.320 --> 1:13:43.120 it's a no brainer. You know, it's almost like an 1:13:43.160 --> 1:13:47.799 instant success, you know what I mean. It's almost founded 1:13:47.840 --> 1:13:50.240 off love, you know what I mean, unity, you know, 1:13:50.320 --> 1:13:53.479 but then spread with love and unity as well, you know, 1:13:53.520 --> 1:13:56.080 And I feel like that's the real you know, that's 1:13:56.120 --> 1:13:56.880 what brings us together. 1:13:57.479 --> 1:14:00.599 I feel like you're very talented with the music, acting 1:14:00.760 --> 1:14:03.720 through fashion. How do you know what to focus your 1:14:03.800 --> 1:14:06.240 energy on, because sometimes you can spread yourself too thin 1:14:06.800 --> 1:14:08.320 and be like all over the place. So how do 1:14:08.400 --> 1:14:10.800 you personally know? Like, this is what I'm doubling down 1:14:10.840 --> 1:14:11.320 on right now. 1:14:11.760 --> 1:14:13.519 You know, I'm big on timing, you know, And I 1:14:13.600 --> 1:14:15.920 feel like who I am as a person, who are 1:14:16.080 --> 1:14:20.320 who we are as people. We we go through different 1:14:20.360 --> 1:14:23.479 stages and where we want to get off what we 1:14:23.560 --> 1:14:25.479 feel like, you know, we want to put out, you know, 1:14:25.600 --> 1:14:28.479 into the world. And I feel like with me doing 1:14:28.520 --> 1:14:30.880 the act and me doing the music, sometimes it is 1:14:30.960 --> 1:14:34.559 hard to juggle. I like to say it balances itself. 1:14:36.240 --> 1:14:39.720 One doesn't really occupy the other. But then at the 1:14:39.800 --> 1:14:41.120 end of the day, I'm trying to bring it all 1:14:41.160 --> 1:14:43.479 together through my music. You're gonna hear the fashion in 1:14:43.640 --> 1:14:45.880 the music. You're gonna hear them the characters I'm playing 1:14:45.920 --> 1:14:49.200 in my music. I may can't go directly to that 1:14:49.360 --> 1:14:52.559 place but I can like perform it in a way 1:14:52.600 --> 1:14:56.040 where you know that character is, you know that person 1:14:56.320 --> 1:14:58.280 going through it. Right now, I'm over that, but I 1:14:58.320 --> 1:15:00.519 still want you to feel feel that. I felt like 1:15:00.600 --> 1:15:02.479 I need to make a song about it, you know. 1:15:03.280 --> 1:15:06.120 So it is you know, tough, you know, but then 1:15:06.160 --> 1:15:08.920 it balances itself out and that's rewarding. Everybody has their 1:15:08.920 --> 1:15:11.120 good days bad days, you know. I feel like that's 1:15:11.160 --> 1:15:13.560 the timing with almost like how I juggle, you know, 1:15:13.680 --> 1:15:15.120 the things I like to put my heart into. 1:15:16.040 --> 1:15:16.439 For sure. 1:15:16.520 --> 1:15:16.960 It's funny. 1:15:17.000 --> 1:15:20.479 Well, Kes, you brought up legacy, so I wonder sometimes 1:15:20.600 --> 1:15:23.640 you do you feel the pressure like obviously the siblings 1:15:24.280 --> 1:15:26.799 we know the family business, but do you feel pressure 1:15:26.880 --> 1:15:28.240 to continue the legacy. 1:15:28.240 --> 1:15:29.760 Or you more on that lane where you know what 1:15:30.160 --> 1:15:32.240 that is a legacy? I need to create my own 1:15:32.280 --> 1:15:34.200 step in this world? Is the pressure? 1:15:34.240 --> 1:15:37.640 There By default, I'm contributing to the legacy, you know, 1:15:37.720 --> 1:15:40.760 And I feel like that speaks volumes in itself. You know, 1:15:41.120 --> 1:15:43.559 I'm not running away from the legacy, so therefore it's 1:15:43.600 --> 1:15:46.120 only adding to it. And I feel like the extension 1:15:46.200 --> 1:15:49.080 of my brother and my sisters, even you know, they 1:15:49.200 --> 1:15:51.200 gonna go into a whole different industry that we ain't 1:15:51.240 --> 1:15:51.679 never seen. 1:15:52.280 --> 1:15:54.679 But it's not gonna be a separate legacy. 1:15:54.720 --> 1:15:56.640 That's gonna be an extension that's gonna just continue the 1:15:56.720 --> 1:15:59.040 legacy overall. So I think that's a beautiful thing about 1:15:59.040 --> 1:16:00.920 the family, Like you said, the unity and all and 1:16:01.000 --> 1:16:03.479 how we really pushing the culture and putting that first, 1:16:03.600 --> 1:16:04.160 you know what. 1:16:04.240 --> 1:16:06.519 About I'm saying what Snoop doing with his son and 1:16:06.560 --> 1:16:09.200 everything in a Web three space and the NFTs and everything. 1:16:09.760 --> 1:16:12.320 Do y'all have any projects y'all working on? You understand me? 1:16:12.400 --> 1:16:13.920 In that space to push things for it. 1:16:14.160 --> 1:16:21.200 We definitely been having all types of zooms, the log 1:16:21.960 --> 1:16:25.080 the knowledge behind it all, you know, especially with my Pops. 1:16:25.120 --> 1:16:27.160 You know, he really wants to know it, you know. 1:16:27.360 --> 1:16:31.439 So it's a constant learning experience, I think for him 1:16:31.479 --> 1:16:34.280 and all of us because he comes up with questions 1:16:34.360 --> 1:16:37.599 sometimes might stump us and we got to go back 1:16:37.680 --> 1:16:41.840 and you know, uh find two three different you know, 1:16:42.680 --> 1:16:45.519 variations of the answer, so he can really understand it. 1:16:45.560 --> 1:16:46.799 So it's just not one sided. 1:16:47.120 --> 1:16:49.479 And I respect him because he's made me like step 1:16:49.560 --> 1:16:51.280 my game up and then learned about the space too, 1:16:51.360 --> 1:16:56.040 because you know, it's very very very interesting. But until 1:16:56.040 --> 1:16:58.160 you can really grasp it, you know, that's when he 1:16:58.240 --> 1:17:01.080 really wants to then step foot in. We're definitely definitely 1:17:01.640 --> 1:17:04.040 he dodn'et cop the couple, you know, he cop the ab, 1:17:04.080 --> 1:17:05.120 he doesn't cop the punk, you know. 1:17:05.439 --> 1:17:07.320 So he's he's slow but sure in the space. 1:17:08.000 --> 1:17:10.720 And you know, we all are, like I. 1:17:10.720 --> 1:17:11.799 Said, about to become active. 1:17:12.160 --> 1:17:14.280 Yeah, yeah, before. 1:17:14.120 --> 1:17:15.800 Before we rap, I just want to ask you, what's 1:17:15.840 --> 1:17:18.519 your plans going forward? What's on your five year ten 1:17:18.600 --> 1:17:19.400 year vision board. 1:17:20.280 --> 1:17:22.639 Well, you know, with the space of TV, film and music, 1:17:23.160 --> 1:17:25.439 I feel like that's the timeless industry that I want 1:17:25.520 --> 1:17:27.160 to just explore from a to Z. 1:17:28.360 --> 1:17:31.000 I haven't even activated anything. 1:17:30.840 --> 1:17:35.960 In my artistry shows, uh, touring, you know, so that's 1:17:36.040 --> 1:17:39.160 on the lighter end of things. But I want to 1:17:39.200 --> 1:17:42.839 travel more, you know, and really you know, step outside 1:17:42.880 --> 1:17:46.400 the box of you know, what I've done. I feel 1:17:46.439 --> 1:17:50.840 like the pandemic taught me a lot and there's a 1:17:50.920 --> 1:17:53.639 lot to be done, and it was a learning experience, 1:17:54.080 --> 1:17:56.519 you know, for me and a lot of people. But 1:17:56.600 --> 1:17:58.400 I think this next five is probably going to be 1:17:58.439 --> 1:18:01.560 the most exciting five years of my life, you know, 1:18:01.720 --> 1:18:06.680 especially you know, I'm thirty third level, you know, so 1:18:06.920 --> 1:18:10.600 it's almost like a real reset. So that road to 1:18:10.680 --> 1:18:13.439 thirty five is about to be a crazy one, Yo, it's. 1:18:13.280 --> 1:18:15.720 The coaches biggest night. Who you most excited to see? 1:18:17.640 --> 1:18:22.960 Man, I'm excited to see it because my pops has 1:18:23.040 --> 1:18:26.839 not let us come to rehearsals, and so I'm excited 1:18:26.880 --> 1:18:27.400 to see what. 1:18:28.320 --> 1:18:31.840 My pops, you know, cause he's in on some he's 1:18:31.920 --> 1:18:34.920 not in on some, so but we ain't in on none. 1:18:35.040 --> 1:18:38.160 So I mean that last question because your pops is interesting. 1:18:38.280 --> 1:18:41.559 He stays connected to what's going on. And I think 1:18:41.560 --> 1:18:43.960 I seen him one time it was somebody that was popping. 1:18:44.000 --> 1:18:46.200 It was like, well, I don't know about them, you understand, Mean, 1:18:46.240 --> 1:18:48.519 what's that process like of making sure, like do y'all 1:18:48.560 --> 1:18:51.080 bring people to him? His attention to make sure, Like, Yo, 1:18:51.160 --> 1:18:53.559 you got to stay interconnected so you don't lose grip 1:18:53.640 --> 1:18:53.760 of this. 1:18:54.080 --> 1:18:58.200 Absolutely. I like to say I bought him Drake before 1:18:59.040 --> 1:19:02.000 Drake dawayne Uh, he. 1:19:02.040 --> 1:19:02.560 Didn't get it. 1:19:03.439 --> 1:19:06.320 But beyond that, it's it's all about timing, you know, 1:19:06.360 --> 1:19:09.640 because sometimes he could be having a great day and 1:19:09.760 --> 1:19:11.560 you show him something and he like it, and it 1:19:11.640 --> 1:19:13.240 could be a bad day. You show him something great 1:19:13.280 --> 1:19:15.160 and he just not being the move for it. But 1:19:15.280 --> 1:19:17.599 it'd be something just as great as you need to hear. 1:19:17.920 --> 1:19:18.559 So I think we're just. 1:19:18.600 --> 1:19:21.880 Consistent on what we're passionate about, you know, putting in 1:19:21.920 --> 1:19:23.760 front of him. We know we ain't about to bring 1:19:23.840 --> 1:19:25.960 him no bs, or he knows we ain't about to 1:19:25.960 --> 1:19:28.040 bring him no bs, so he tries to take that 1:19:28.120 --> 1:19:32.759 into consideration first, like the saint, like listen to my mixtake. 1:19:32.760 --> 1:19:34.080 Listen to my mixtape. It ain't one of those. 1:19:34.120 --> 1:19:36.960 It's like, look, it's a reason I'm bringing this to you, pops. 1:19:37.120 --> 1:19:39.320 And I feel like he respects that. So we always 1:19:39.360 --> 1:19:42.160 on him, you know what I mean? He on us too, 1:19:42.200 --> 1:19:43.519 you know what I mean. He be putting us on 1:19:43.640 --> 1:19:45.800 like yo, you know this person, and we'd be like, wow, 1:19:46.320 --> 1:19:49.200 he beat us, he found him first. 1:19:49.400 --> 1:19:51.120 Yeah, yeah, now that's what's up. 1:19:51.479 --> 1:19:54.439 I work with my pops, like we'll do video content 1:19:54.479 --> 1:19:56.800 together and if people love it, and just that demonstration 1:19:56.960 --> 1:19:59.599 of like a son being able to work with they father, 1:20:00.160 --> 1:20:03.080 it's like legacy in the present, you understand me, not 1:20:03.280 --> 1:20:05.920 like let's remember what happened. But I think that's probably 1:20:05.960 --> 1:20:08.280 one of the most powerful demonstrations y'all have as a family. 1:20:08.400 --> 1:20:09.040 I appreciate that. 1:20:09.600 --> 1:20:12.559 We gonn promise to continue to keep that going most definitely, 1:20:12.600 --> 1:20:13.280 that's what it's about. 1:20:13.360 --> 1:20:15.800 Appreciate it. Thank you for the time we met a 1:20:15.840 --> 1:20:18.599 few times in passing, and one thing I'll say, your 1:20:18.680 --> 1:20:22.479 humility is definitely infectious. You just kind of get a 1:20:22.520 --> 1:20:24.920 vibe for a person. That's every time that I met you. 1:20:24.960 --> 1:20:28.240 You've just been super humble, super down the earl, super relatable, 1:20:28.720 --> 1:20:30.960 and that's something that you know we appreciate. 1:20:31.120 --> 1:20:33.599 So I appreciate y'all. I'm sure we don't have many 1:20:33.640 --> 1:20:34.360 more running. 1:20:34.200 --> 1:20:39.120 Too, so again, respect y'all. Taraji p Henson, thank you 1:20:39.240 --> 1:20:41.120 for joining us. I appreciate you for having me so 1:20:41.720 --> 1:20:44.160 icon it in the game, A true legend. How have 1:20:44.280 --> 1:20:47.439 you been able to navigate Hollywood and state relevant for 1:20:47.520 --> 1:20:50.879 almost for twenty years now, a little. 1:20:50.680 --> 1:20:51.360 Over twenty years. 1:20:51.400 --> 1:20:54.200 I haven't gotten rid of my real ones. I still 1:20:54.280 --> 1:20:54.639 have them. 1:20:55.160 --> 1:20:58.600 I have an incredible family that keeps me grounded, and 1:20:58.760 --> 1:21:01.120 I just understand what this is about, Like this artist 1:21:01.160 --> 1:21:03.800 bigger than me. It has like God gave this gift 1:21:03.880 --> 1:21:06.000 to me to share with the world and change and 1:21:06.080 --> 1:21:08.200 touch lives and that's what it's about. So for me, 1:21:08.280 --> 1:21:10.040 it's not really about the vanity. I mean, I like 1:21:10.120 --> 1:21:11.960 to be cute and stuff like that because I'm a 1:21:12.040 --> 1:21:13.960 girly girl. But at the end of the day, I 1:21:14.080 --> 1:21:16.360 understand my purpose and I know why I'm doing what 1:21:16.479 --> 1:21:16.640 I do. 1:21:17.640 --> 1:21:20.680 Let's talk about why we're all here BT Awards to 1:21:20.800 --> 1:21:23.479 celebrate us, to celebrate us, and they got the right 1:21:23.520 --> 1:21:27.160 person host, I think, so, yeah, So this is not 1:21:27.240 --> 1:21:29.960 your first time hosting in a debt, what can we 1:21:30.080 --> 1:21:30.960 expect from from the. 1:21:30.960 --> 1:21:31.639 Show this weekend? 1:21:31.720 --> 1:21:34.400 I think y'all gonna love this year's thing. So last 1:21:34.479 --> 1:21:37.200 year we focused on the queens, but you know, we 1:21:37.280 --> 1:21:41.080 ain't nothing with our y'all. So this this, yeah, because 1:21:41.520 --> 1:21:43.000 I know thise like a lot of times we like 1:21:43.080 --> 1:21:45.240 to make little jokes and stuff about the men, and 1:21:45.280 --> 1:21:48.559 I'm like, we can't do that. You know, they get 1:21:48.600 --> 1:21:51.240 beat up on enough in the world, right, So what 1:21:51.360 --> 1:21:54.040 we gonna do here is celebrate y'all. We celebrate you, 1:21:54.160 --> 1:21:57.400 lifting you up those that came before, those are here now, 1:21:57.640 --> 1:21:59.880 and just making aby sending you away with some hope 1:22:00.080 --> 1:22:01.040 cause this world. 1:22:02.439 --> 1:22:03.760 Looking for another country to move. 1:22:06.200 --> 1:22:08.120 I feel like that's perfect because I feel like that's 1:22:08.160 --> 1:22:08.639 the balance. 1:22:08.720 --> 1:22:11.560 Like I was talking with b about this earlier, so 1:22:11.680 --> 1:22:13.640 young black women put me on call soft life for 1:22:13.760 --> 1:22:17.360 women representing themselves softer instead of the images of women 1:22:17.400 --> 1:22:18.360 having to be hard and. 1:22:18.439 --> 1:22:20.400 Tough, and it's like, no, you deserve to just laugh 1:22:20.479 --> 1:22:21.240 and being your joy. 1:22:21.280 --> 1:22:23.920 And I feel like by lifting up men, they stand 1:22:23.960 --> 1:22:25.920 in that position so that women can be soft as 1:22:25.960 --> 1:22:28.600 they want to. You understand me what you feel about that, 1:22:28.720 --> 1:22:30.840 cause I feel like that goes into what you do 1:22:30.960 --> 1:22:31.679 with mental health. 1:22:32.520 --> 1:22:35.720 Well, you know, we are all carrying generational trauma that 1:22:35.760 --> 1:22:37.960 has been passed down to us that we don't we're 1:22:38.000 --> 1:22:40.439 not even aware of, and until we get the help 1:22:40.520 --> 1:22:44.040 and the healing that we need, we will be operating 1:22:44.160 --> 1:22:48.760 dysfunctionally until we pinpoint our past traumas and a lot 1:22:48.840 --> 1:22:52.439 of that stuff we don't even understand, cause it's just 1:22:52.600 --> 1:22:54.719 like I said, it's been handed down. Like I wondered 1:22:54.840 --> 1:22:57.120 one day, I'm really claustrophobic. I don't like being in 1:22:57.240 --> 1:22:57.839 tight spaces. 1:22:57.920 --> 1:22:58.880 This is before COVID. 1:22:59.000 --> 1:23:01.479 Now I really don't like I'm crazy, and I'm like, 1:23:01.520 --> 1:23:05.520 I get you out here, but I'm very clusophobic. 1:23:05.560 --> 1:23:07.639 And I remember I had to play a sledg runaway slave. 1:23:07.720 --> 1:23:12.240 You ain't a star unless you played one. But I 1:23:12.840 --> 1:23:15.080 remember they had to put me in this little compartment 1:23:15.200 --> 1:23:17.679 under a wagon, a horse wagon, and I just remember 1:23:17.840 --> 1:23:22.200 my body from Bulson. That's nothing that I that's not 1:23:22.320 --> 1:23:25.320 speaking on anything that I've experienced in my lifetime. That 1:23:25.680 --> 1:23:29.800 was clearly generational trauma from slavery. Cause what space have 1:23:29.920 --> 1:23:33.040 I been in to provoke that kind of feeling, you know? 1:23:33.720 --> 1:23:35.760 So my point is is that in things like the 1:23:36.000 --> 1:23:38.360 things that black people have, and this is what makes 1:23:38.439 --> 1:23:41.639 us so beautiful because you can oppress us. You can 1:23:42.280 --> 1:23:45.320 kill our sons, you can do take our children from us, 1:23:45.479 --> 1:23:47.759 take our husbands from us. Guess who We're gonna always 1:23:47.800 --> 1:23:51.040 tap into joy? We gonna find it. And that's that's 1:23:51.080 --> 1:23:51.599 who we are. 1:23:52.280 --> 1:23:53.880 And I love that about us. 1:23:54.400 --> 1:23:58.400 And it's unfortunate that we are oppressed, but that's the 1:23:58.439 --> 1:24:01.160 reason why we are because nobody can tap into this 1:24:01.320 --> 1:24:04.280 joy like we. It's in us. No matter what you 1:24:04.400 --> 1:24:07.280 try to do to us, we gonna make you feel better. 1:24:07.760 --> 1:24:09.920 That's a gift that we have, you know, And I 1:24:10.000 --> 1:24:11.040 think the enemy is mad. 1:24:12.720 --> 1:24:14.519 Let me ask you this. We have the VT awards, 1:24:14.600 --> 1:24:17.640 we can you're hosting. How is it How important is 1:24:17.680 --> 1:24:21.840 it for us to support DT Awards, Black Awards as 1:24:21.880 --> 1:24:27.000 opposed to BOYCOTTI and complaining about other awards and always 1:24:27.040 --> 1:24:30.000 saying that we're left out, we're not recognized, Like instead 1:24:30.000 --> 1:24:32.160 of focusing that energy, they're how important is it to 1:24:32.200 --> 1:24:33.000 focus our energy here? 1:24:33.080 --> 1:24:35.880 It's very important to focus our energy on us because 1:24:35.960 --> 1:24:37.320 we alway have but at the end of the day, 1:24:37.320 --> 1:24:39.400 we always need. Like that's why I did my deal 1:24:39.479 --> 1:24:42.880 with b Et. I'm sick of begging and can you 1:24:43.000 --> 1:24:46.120 please this story they need? When I brought my first story, 1:24:46.240 --> 1:24:49.280 Queenie the Godmother of Harlem, that nobody knows about but 1:24:49.360 --> 1:24:52.320 you know about Frank Gaston, you know I'm not Frank Lucas, 1:24:52.680 --> 1:24:56.320 and you know about Bumpy Johnson, but you don't know 1:24:56.400 --> 1:24:59.639 they came from her and she didn't even sell drugs. 1:25:00.240 --> 1:25:01.920 So when I took this story to be Et, I 1:25:02.000 --> 1:25:04.960 shopped it all over town. Nobody wanted it, and I'm like, 1:25:06.200 --> 1:25:08.479 that's because they don't really want our stories. You know, 1:25:08.800 --> 1:25:11.080 they really don't if the money's not they don't see numbers, 1:25:11.120 --> 1:25:13.320 they don't see how it can make them a profit. 1:25:13.479 --> 1:25:14.120 They don't care. 1:25:14.520 --> 1:25:16.599 And for me, I don't really care about the number 1:25:16.920 --> 1:25:18.640 or the money. I care about the story because some 1:25:18.760 --> 1:25:21.960 little black girls, some little brown boy needs to see themselves, 1:25:22.120 --> 1:25:24.000 you know, and needs to know this story. We need 1:25:24.040 --> 1:25:26.439 to know our history. They already taking it out of school. 1:25:27.080 --> 1:25:30.559 So that's why I signed with BT, because I'm sick 1:25:30.600 --> 1:25:33.320 and tired of begging and we don't need to beg 1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:36.960 Look at where we are, we have all about. 1:25:36.720 --> 1:25:37.759 Why are we still begging? 1:25:37.800 --> 1:25:40.880 And worried about what the Grammys and the Oscars and 1:25:40.920 --> 1:25:41.479 all of them do. 1:25:41.560 --> 1:25:42.519 They never wanted a thing. 1:25:42.479 --> 1:25:45.360 Anyway, except I mean, that's it. That's the freedom we're 1:25:45.360 --> 1:25:45.800 talking about. 1:25:45.840 --> 1:25:47.880 So at this point now, is that more of the 1:25:47.920 --> 1:25:51.120 focus writing stories that are authentic to us as opposed 1:25:51.120 --> 1:25:55.760 to acting in stories that you know, wy. 1:25:55.280 --> 1:25:56.840 You do what you gotta do to get where you 1:25:56.920 --> 1:25:59.160 need to be, and then you start making your own choice. 1:25:59.160 --> 1:26:01.400 You stop being a ball us and so that's you know. 1:26:01.560 --> 1:26:04.599 I'm at the position now where I create my own 1:26:04.680 --> 1:26:07.640 doors to open, I create my own scripts, I create. 1:26:07.479 --> 1:26:08.479 Jobs for other people. 1:26:08.720 --> 1:26:12.040 So I hope that's what everybody's paying attention. 1:26:12.880 --> 1:26:15.160 They're gonna watch you do it. I hope it becomes 1:26:15.200 --> 1:26:15.719 the inspiration. 1:26:15.960 --> 1:26:16.800 Yeah, I hope. 1:26:16.840 --> 1:26:22.840 So the last one was yours. 1:26:23.160 --> 1:26:25.320 It wasn't a question just wanting to give your flowers 1:26:25.360 --> 1:26:27.200 because I love what you're doing and everything you show 1:26:27.200 --> 1:26:30.200 your exercise, you show your mental health journey, you show 1:26:30.240 --> 1:26:32.360 your joy, you show the ups and downs of the pain. 1:26:32.720 --> 1:26:36.200 I think you showcased like a real person. Understand me. 1:26:36.280 --> 1:26:38.920 It's not one side, and I think that people need 1:26:39.000 --> 1:26:41.400 to see that. Understand me and so not. 1:26:41.560 --> 1:26:43.599 Like that's why I'm saying, it's not a strong black 1:26:43.640 --> 1:26:44.840 woman's a soft black woman. 1:26:45.320 --> 1:26:47.400 Understand me. And then that softness is your power. 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