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Speaker 2: All right, Eyl Queen Naja, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it, Yeah, for sure. So my first question

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Speaker 2: is how has this journey been for you. I know

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Speaker 2: it's been a short period of time, but it's been

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Speaker 2: a long period of time as well. So you now

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Speaker 2: you're an a list, everybody knows you, everybody loves your music.

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Speaker 2: Is it still moments where it's kind of surreal to you?

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Speaker 2: Or are you, like fully caught up in a moment

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I never really get to basket the moment. I'm

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Speaker 4: really surreal because like just not right now, Like it's

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Speaker 4: a blessing, but I'm trying to learn how to just

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Speaker 4: I'm always like Russian, Russian, Russian everywhere, but I never

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Speaker 4: really just get to like bask in a moment.

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Speaker 3: But it's been a it's been a journey. I feel like.

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Speaker 4: It's been a time where I was super down. I

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Speaker 4: thought everybody forgot about me. But now I'm back here

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Speaker 4: again and I just bounce back and I'm happy. So

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Speaker 4: it's a blessing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So this weekend you're presenting at the Awards. Obviously

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Speaker 6: Mary is performing. I know that you're a part of

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Speaker 5: He talked about heart and influence and what it means

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Speaker 5: to be a part of it. Mary, Yeah, marry' Jay.

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Speaker 4: First of all, the first song that I ever sang

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Speaker 4: Need to get by with methad Man. I was three

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Speaker 4: in this same First of all, I'm going on tour her. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so I'm really really excited and I feel like if

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Speaker 7: They don't name Nia, so I was looking at of

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Speaker 7: it basically translates to like the new Nigeria you understand

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Speaker 7: me or the music of Niga. Do you find Nigerians

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Speaker 3: Okay? So my first name is Queen.

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Speaker 4: My middle name is Naja, and it has nothing to

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Speaker 4: mixed up. My name is Naja because my father's name

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Speaker 4: was my father's from Yemen, his name was Mohammed Nijeb

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it has nothing.

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Speaker 4: To do in Nigeria, but I think it does work

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Speaker 3: I haven't been there, but if it works for me,

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Speaker 2: So I feel like it's on a job training when

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Speaker 4: I was blessed to have a really really good support

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of things I've had learning experiences where

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Speaker 5: What's that process, like when you're trying to collab with somebody.

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Speaker 4: So usually like I'll all right, Usually i'll build. I'll build, sorry,

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Speaker 4: I think of a concept to it, I'll go mumble

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Speaker 5: You're making the record yourself, you're producing it.

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Speaker 4: I don't press the buttons, but I tell them, use

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Speaker 4: So yeah, and then I just get the whoever I want.

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Speaker 4: I DM them. I don't really have to label do

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Speaker 4: But if I don't get them, I'll just wait.

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Speaker 8: And if it don't have and it don't, what's the

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Speaker 7: Like we see Rihanna become a billionaire for having her

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. I do want to put out

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Speaker 3: I really love to be comfortable and I love to

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Speaker 4: So like one of the things I wanted to do

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Speaker 10: Yeah, kitty kits.

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Speaker 3: Very important. But yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'll come up with something else later on, but

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Speaker 4: Still, I think I'm gonna get back on my YouTube channel.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, coming back.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, y'all heard it.

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Speaker 6: So obviously the coaches Big as Night Sunday you're presenting,

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Speaker 3: To see I'm just really excited. I'm just excited to

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Speaker 7: So let me ask you last, how do you balance

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Speaker 2: That's it. Well, thank you. The one last question that

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Speaker 2: Who was your favorite all top favorite? Whitney Hughton, Whinney.

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Speaker 3: and a lot more. But I grew up listening to them.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I would we appreciate you coming. Make sure

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Speaker 5: y'all go check out the tour Queen nazi Ya.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, thank you here with Joey. Dad asked Joey,

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Speaker 2: thank you for joining us, bro, I appreciate it, your sir, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 6: Award winning actor, what I said, award winning, let's start there.

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Speaker 7: With this session with ideas, let me ad she mean,

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Speaker 11: Apply between the law focus and the law of confidence.

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Speaker 11: Well, I'm big on faith, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 11: Else feels my focus, It feels my confidict.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, fuse, you.

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Speaker 2: So acting or rapping, which one do you prefer? Like,

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Speaker 11: That was my first love. That was you know, my

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Speaker 11: Don't you know this music. I don't gotta rely on music,

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Speaker 6: So tell them about the music. The latest project. I know,

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Speaker 11: The new album?

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Speaker 13: New album two thousand. It's coming next month in July.

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Speaker 13: I actually have the date, but I don't. I'm not

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Speaker 13: the date is lot, it's official. You know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah,

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Speaker 11: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 13: So there's a lot of things I was out of

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Speaker 5: And you got out in front of it too. That's

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Speaker 6: As soon as you know it was a delay, you

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Speaker 12: No exactly, you know.

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Speaker 7: I feel like the game needs Joey Badass, mostly because

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Speaker 7: I think, you know, I do high level conversations.

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Speaker 8: I feel like your music high level.

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Speaker 7: And plus it's in a lane where there's a lot

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Speaker 8: Got a masculine energy feeling. I think you bring that

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Speaker 7: And you know the music is is high energy, which

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Speaker 8: Know as Joey Badass, I think.

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Speaker 11: I represented call the higher consciousness. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 13: I represent open mindedness, I represent unity, and I represent

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Speaker 11: We ain't swimming pools, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 13: We've asked and unpredictable, you know what I'm saying, and

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Speaker 2: So my last question from a business standpoint, you being

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Speaker 13: First of all, great question, you know, because my whole

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Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying. I didn't.

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Speaker 13: I didn't have I wasn't giving up the lion's share

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: Are you studying Web three?

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Speaker 2: Any?

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Speaker 8: You said what Web three? Where?

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Speaker 11: No, I'm not. I'm not too big on the Web

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Speaker 7: Talking about just like utilizing the platform, because when I

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Speaker 7: The blockchain, you understand me. It's gonna expand what you're

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Speaker 7: gonna be able to do. It's basically will allow you

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Speaker 7: NFTs are just one phase of the blockchain, but the

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Speaker 11: Right up. Well, I mean, you know, to be honest,

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Speaker 13: I got I gotta catch up a bit like pandemic.

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Speaker 11: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 13: I got my baby dough at home. I haven't really

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Speaker 13: But I'm with you on that and with you on that,

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Speaker 6: My last thought is, all as you're talking, who's your

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Speaker 11: For show for show. I love Rock Kim, you know

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Speaker 11: So yeah, for sure, but I was apart from Jake,

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Speaker 11: I gotta get it to life.

442
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Speaker 2: Nah, I can see the early ellmatic Ye see that,

443
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:42,360
Speaker 2: I can see.

444
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Speaker 5: You know nothing.

445
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Speaker 11: That's my big bunk for with you know. Yeah, Like

446
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,919
Speaker 11: I'm great for that out of relationship with him, you.

447
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Speaker 10: Know what I mean?

448
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,960
Speaker 11: Like I literally call him the city.

449
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Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

450
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Speaker 5: Brothers, My dog days are coming over.

451
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Speaker 2: Neil, Welcome back, Welcome back, brother. First of all, this

452
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Speaker 2: is a reunion. Last time we saw you with invest

453
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 2: Fest VIP nighted today for the stage down. So I

454
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Speaker 2: want to I want to formally thank you for that, man,

455
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Speaker 2: I was so for me.

456
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Speaker 14: I had a great time brother. Indeed, indeed appreciate you

457
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 14: having me no problem.

458
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Speaker 11: Man.

459
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Speaker 2: So you as like a legacy artist at this point,

460
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,400
Speaker 2: which is crazy because I grew up on your music.

461
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 2: So now it's like you're a legacy artist. How do

462
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 2: you how do you maintain your your relevancy? And almost

463
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 2: what twenty is in the game fifteen?

464
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Speaker 15: We almost at twenty. Yeah, we almost at the twenty mark,

465
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Speaker 15: you know.

466
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Speaker 8: Man.

467
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Speaker 14: For me, it's it's always been about acknowledging the trend,

468
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Speaker 14: but not following it, you know what I mean. Like,

469
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Speaker 14: I think a lot of these young casts don't realize

470
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Speaker 14: that trends are meant to come and go, and if

471
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Speaker 14: you attach your artistry, if you attach yourself to that trend,

472
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 14: once that trend leaves, you kind of leave with it,

473
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Speaker 14: you know what I mean. So I've always tried to

474
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 14: attach myself to things that aren't going anywhere, up to

475
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 14: sound going anywhere. Sound of a guitar is never going anywhere.

476
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Speaker 14: Love is a feeling, as an emotion, as a move,

477
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Speaker 14: and that it ain't going nowhere. It might be the

478
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Speaker 14: most popular thing right now, because you know, it is

479
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 14: what it is, but it's never gonna go out of style.

480
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Speaker 14: It's never there's never gonna be a time where it's

481
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Speaker 14: like we don't need love. We always need love. We

482
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Speaker 14: will forever need love, and we will forever need love songs.

483
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Speaker 14: And as long as that's the case, Neil will forever

484
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Speaker 14: be around.

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Speaker 6: I think I'm glad you said that, because that's one

486
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Speaker 6: of the many talents you started as a songwriter, became

487
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Speaker 6: a worldwide success.

488
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Speaker 5: As an artist.

489
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Speaker 6: But at these times, now do you go back to

490
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Speaker 6: the original talent, like I see it as an artist

491
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 6: out there, they could be great.

492
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 5: They need that Neo Penn is.

493
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Speaker 15: That I I mean that.

494
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Speaker 14: That may not, that may not be the mind state

495
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Speaker 14: as to why I do it. But at the same time,

496
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Speaker 14: I've I'll never not write, you know what I'm saying.

497
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Speaker 14: That's that's that's therapy for me, you know, if it's

498
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Speaker 14: I've always been better putting it down on paper as

499
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Speaker 14: opposed to even saying it out of my mouth. So,

500
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Speaker 14: you know, whenever I get into that place where I'm

501
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 14: Superman in my family, right, so whenever Superman needs saving,

502
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 14: I get in my pad and I'm good again. You

503
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 14: know what, I mean, that's that's that's always been my therapy.

504
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Speaker 14: So the fact that I can do it as a

505
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Speaker 14: career and make money doing it, that's just French benefit.

506
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Speaker 14: I'm saying, because of it, you know what I mean,

507
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 14: Like I'm stable because of it.

508
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Speaker 7: Now, do you think we headed to a place where

509
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 7: because R and B is one of those genres that

510
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Speaker 7: it's forever needed. Number One, we're very love for society.

511
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Speaker 7: We ain't got enough love in the culture. You understand me,

512
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Speaker 7: And I think R and B is probably something that

513
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 7: we need to listen to even more. And recently we

514
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 7: sing Drake and Beyonce do like house music and a

515
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 7: lot of people in dance music and a lot of

516
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 7: people were saying, well, this was actually a good thing

517
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Speaker 7: because it's a break from what we get. A lot

518
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Speaker 7: of music is dark in these days. What is R

519
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Speaker 7: and B or what is the future of music as

520
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 7: a therapy for the culture?

521
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Speaker 8: You understand me?

522
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Speaker 7: And specifically, like, what's your intention you put in the

523
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Speaker 7: music as far as what you want to spread?

524
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Speaker 14: Well, I mean I've been I've been about love from

525
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Speaker 14: the very beginning, or should I say the black, white

526
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Speaker 14: and gray of love? Because you know you can't appreciate

527
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 14: the highs of love if you can't acknowledge the lows

528
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Speaker 14: of love, like they both exist for a reason.

529
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Speaker 15: It's like Yin and yang, you know.

530
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Speaker 14: So I'm trying to make sure that anybody going through

531
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Speaker 14: a heartbreak or anybody going through anything like that, knows

532
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 14: and understands that they're not alone. You don't nobody you

533
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 14: going through it, but it ain't just you. I'm going

534
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 14: through it too, you know what I'm saying. That's what

535
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 14: the song says to them, and what the song also

536
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 14: does is give them a soundtrack to what it is

537
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 14: is happening. You know, I'm depressed, I feel bad right now.

538
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 14: I need I need a song that's gonna pull me up.

539
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 14: I got that for you or you know what I'm saying.

540
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 14: I just feel like being in my feeling today is raining.

541
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 14: I want to just be in this place. I got

542
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 14: that for you too. That's what my music has always been,

543
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 14: you know, put the song on and apply it to

544
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 14: your life accordingly.

545
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Speaker 15: That's what a neo record is.

546
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Speaker 2: So when did you let me ask you this? As

547
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Speaker 2: far as balancing business and music, right, a lot of

548
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,719
Speaker 2: people say they get turned off from creating because they

549
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 2: have to deal with the business side. Did you ever

550
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Speaker 2: have that experience and how has your experience been navigating

551
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Speaker 2: being a creative and being a businessman at the same song.

552
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Speaker 11: So this is a new way to segue into the

553
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Speaker 11: new album.

554
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Speaker 15: It's July fifteenth, self explanatory and now the album.

555
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Speaker 14: I've been writing on this album since twenty eighteen, since

556
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 14: before the pandemic, and a lot of the reason aside

557
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 14: from the pandemic, a lot of reason why so long

558
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 14: is because I fell into that place where it was like,

559
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 14: all right, this is a good song, but is it

560
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Speaker 14: rhythmic enough, is it popping up? Is it urban enough?

561
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Speaker 14: And then I'm looking at like I'm looking at the format.

562
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Speaker 14: It's like, all right, the sounds changed. I ain't getting

563
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 14: no younger. Do I fit still? Is there even a

564
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 14: place for me in this still fell into that place

565
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 14: and it took a major, major toll on just my creativity.

566
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Speaker 14: I couldn't write nothing like because I'm second guessing everything

567
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Speaker 14: I'm doing. I had to finally get to that place

568
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Speaker 14: where I realized it, Man, I've never been in the

569
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 14: business for the business of selling records.

570
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Speaker 15: That's not what I do. Record label sell records, I

571
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 15: am not a record label. I'm an artist. I'm a writer.

572
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Speaker 14: I'm a singer. My only obligation is to put my

573
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Speaker 14: heart and soul into this music.

574
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Speaker 15: That's it.

575
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Speaker 14: Once I got back there, the songs just pour it

576
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 14: out of me. So I got back to that. I

577
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 14: got back to a good place. The business side of

578
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 14: this will steal the joy of the side if you

579
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 14: let it.

580
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Speaker 15: Now at the same time, to do this and not

581
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 15: know that it's a business, it's just stupid.

582
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: That's just no one.

583
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Speaker 14: Understands that there is millions upon millions upon hundreds of

584
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 14: millions of dollars made with this, So you can't ignore

585
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 14: the fact that it's a business. But what you don't

586
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 14: do is take the business into the studio. You don't

587
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 14: go in the studio and all right, today we're going

588
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 14: to write a pop song, y'all. Because it'll never happen

589
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 14: like that. You got to go in the studio and

590
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 14: do what your artistic integrity lets you do and then

591
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 14: let the people that do that figure out where it's

592
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 14: supposed to fall. Okay, you did a pop record today,

593
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 14: I know where to take this. You did the rhythmic

594
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 14: records today, all right, I know where to take this

595
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 14: in the creative process. It's just about creation, bro, It's

596
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 14: just about art. Let it be about that, Let it

597
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 14: be Let that be your joyous spot, and then let

598
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Speaker 14: the people that do that do that.

599
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Speaker 15: At least that's been my philosophy of it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you said this, I mean it's only on

601
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Speaker 5: twenty years, Like, yeah, we grew up on the music.

602
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Speaker 11: Yeah, but it has changed.

603
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Speaker 6: And so I wonder now, is there artists that you

604
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 6: listen to that inspire you the music and say, like,

605
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 6: I like this all right, I can hear what they're

606
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 6: going with, Or when you're getting in that process of

607
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 6: writing for the new album, did you go back in

608
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 6: time to eighties or seventies sounds to be like I

609
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 6: needed that to inspire me.

610
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Speaker 15: I can honestly say a little bit of both, a

611
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 15: little bit of both, because.

612
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Speaker 14: Again, you can't you can't ignore what's happening right now,

613
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 14: Like you can't call yourself a music person and ignore

614
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 14: what's happening right now. But at the same time, you

615
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 14: also can't try to transform yourself into what's happening right now,

616
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 14: because it's happening right now, you know what I mean, Like,

617
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Speaker 14: I'm forty two years old. There's some things that are

618
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 14: being said in some of these records that it's just

619
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 14: gonna sound stupid if I say I'm aware of that.

620
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Speaker 15: I acknowledge that, And I ain't even mad at that.

621
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Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying.

622
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Speaker 14: I'm I'm always gonna give you the metaphor that's gonna

623
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 14: make you think a little bit to get to where

624
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 14: that to get to where you got with that, you

625
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 14: know what I'm saying. That's always gonna be my thing.

626
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 14: But at the same time, I can't. I can't say

627
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 14: that it's not young cats out here doing it like

628
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 14: the boy Blue, he's making moves. I cannot acknowledge that,

629
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 14: Lucky Day making moves. Give you on making moves.

630
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 15: I can't. I can't ignore that, you know.

631
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 14: So I listen to these cats and and and I

632
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 14: kind of I'm almost kind of taking back to my beginnings,

633
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 14: Like I know where you're at right now.

634
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 15: I know the excitement you're feeling right.

635
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 5: Now, Hotel. I'm thinking like that's one of the records.

636
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 14: Shout out to that boy by the way, give I

637
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 14: love his tone.

638
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 15: You see, don't sound like.

639
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Speaker 8: What's I kind of got a two part question.

640
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 7: First part is do you recognize the metaphysical aspect of music,

641
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 7: You understand me, Like you know we water beings. So

642
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 7: music as a frequency and trage you like once you

643
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 7: put a motion, emotion into something that gets stuck into

644
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 7: a person as they listen to it. Like a person

645
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 7: may listen to your words and your voice and your

646
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 7: energy a thousand times. They may listen to our podcast

647
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 7: or media once or twice.

648
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 8: You understand me.

649
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 7: Do you recognize that power metaphysically that music has as

650
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 7: you're going into it with that intention? And then too,

651
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 7: do you plan on in the future utilizing like NF

652
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 7: teen's Web three blockchain to really monetize your music in

653
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 7: a different way to go direct to consumer.

654
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Speaker 14: Gee two parts. So yes, I'm definitely aware of that.

655
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 14: I'm definitely aware of the music's power.

656
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 7: You know.

657
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 14: Uh, sound is frequency, frequency is vibration, and all of

658
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 14: these things affect us, affect ourselves, affects us on the inside.

659
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 14: It ain't just I listen to this song and I

660
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 14: like it. It's I listen to this song and it

661
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 14: does something. It affects me. I get goosebumps or whatever

662
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 14: the case may be. It's because of vibration, frequency things.

663
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 14: So I'm very aware of how powerful that is. I'm

664
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 14: aware of how some cats have used it the wrong way.

665
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 14: You know, you put a frequency in your record that

666
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 14: makes people addicted to it, but it's not feeding them anything.

667
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 14: It's just it's just making it's just creating craving Like

668
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 14: that's that's almost backwards.

669
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 15: I just crave, I just crave, I just crave. Well,

670
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 15: what do you crave?

671
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 14: I'm trying to get you to music that's going to

672
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 14: get you to crave the right thing that's going to

673
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 14: get you to crave that thing that's gonna make yourselves

674
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 14: move the where they need to move, you know what

675
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 14: I mean.

676
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 15: That's that's what I'm always shooting for.

677
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 14: And as far as NFTs and all of that stuff,

678
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 14: I'm definitely in that world, not as heavy as I

679
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 14: would like to be, And it's mainly just a standpoint

680
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 14: of sitting still long enough to get the information, to

681
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 14: get together the knowledge.

682
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 15: But I see what that is. I see the potential

683
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 15: in that.

684
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 14: You know, right now, NFTs is something that you can't

685
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 14: even touch, you know, it's it's it's intangible. But in

686
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 14: a minute, you about to see houses as NFTs, You

687
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 14: about to see whole records as NFTs like it's it's

688
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 14: about to that's what's that's where we're about to go.

689
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 15: I see it happening.

690
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: So last question before we wrap, I will actually I

691
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: want you to tell people about the new music, because yeah,

692
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: like I said, I grew up on it, the old music,

693
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: but I'm looking forward to the new music. So what

694
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: can we be looking forward to on a new project?

695
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 14: Gopy that so self explanatory is the name of the

696
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 14: new album, and I called it that simply because the

697
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 14: music speaks for itself. It doesn't really need much explanation.

698
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 14: On top of the fact that I've been here almost

699
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 14: twenty years, I feel like y'all should know me at

700
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 14: this point.

701
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 15: I shouldn't have to explain who I am, what I am,

702
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 15: what I do. On this album.

703
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 14: You will find acknowledgment of what's going on right now

704
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 14: with my spin on it, and but you will also find,

705
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 14: you know, that song for the diehard fan, that person

706
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 14: that's been there since stay and the vibe and energy

707
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 14: that they look for. I'm always trying to please all

708
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 14: the people at the same time, and I know that

709
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 14: that's virtually impossible, but damn it, I'm gonna keep doing

710
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 14: what I do for who's listening and who cares?

711
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 15: And and uh yeah, yeah that's what it is.

712
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: Brother hedio record, Uh put you on the spot.

713
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 5: I mean, so sick is up there, but uh sech

714
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 5: and love problems such.

715
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 11: And love good taste, good taste, Miss independent.

716
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 15: Indeed, I appreciate that love rump and shot.

717
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 8: Come on, man, it's certain songs that made me think

718
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 8: I could sing.

719
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 16: That's why you know it's a good record to do

720
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 16: you see like you feel?

721
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: Might sound good?

722
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 5: Right man?

723
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 15: Somebody got Neil for me?

724
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 5: I'm throw one back at you. Best swing that neo

725
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 5: rope ah.

726
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: A little bit for there's a couple of you got one?

727
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 5: How about this?

728
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 6: I do we saw one of the guys before in

729
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 6: that record last night last night, I wasn't there.

730
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: Damn, let's refrain.

731
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 15: You saw the winner. Talk saw the winner that replaced

732
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 15: the versus the.

733
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 5: The Marrio joints to this is replaceable, but it's not replaceable.

734
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: But let me love you irreplaceable irreplaceable?

735
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 5: Wow, which one is your favorite?

736
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 15: Damn?

737
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 14: I mean they both equated to really quality Christmases. I

738
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 14: will say that really good Christmas is off of both

739
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 14: of those records.

740
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 15: Still it is Day, It is Day. Yeah, my kids

741
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 15: love those songs.

742
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 14: If I had to choose one over the other, probably

743
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 14: probably irreplaceable, only because it was a learning experience for me,

744
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 14: you know what I mean. Like I wrote the song

745
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 14: with the intent to keep it and learned that certain lyrics,

746
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 14: the the person delivering the message matters.

747
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 15: Sometimes.

748
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 14: For example, I can have another you in a minute,

749
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 14: matter of fact, she'll be here in a minute. From

750
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 14: a man, sounds a little mean, limosogynistic, but for a

751
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 14: woman to say I can have another you in a minute,

752
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 14: matter of fact, he'll be here in a minute, every

753
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 14: woman in the world is gonna rally behind it, like

754
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 14: that's my girl, you know what I mean. So that's

755
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 14: that I learned that lesson through that record. Super Big

756
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 14: Daddy is a boyfriend for that record. Michael Jackson, Prince,

757
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 14: I can't, I can't. I can't even do it right, I.

758
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: Tell you.

759
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 14: So I learned how to sing mimicking Michael Jackson, I

760
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 14: learned how to perform Mimiican Prince and I've had I've

761
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 14: had moments with both of them before they passed. I

762
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 14: got to actually write with For Michael Jackson, we didn't

763
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 14: get to record the records, but like talking to this

764
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 14: man regularly and him critiquing the records that I'm writing

765
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 14: for him, like that was an experience. And then Prince

766
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 14: my Libra Scale It's probably my worst performing album, and

767
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 14: I was bummed out. I was messed up about it,

768
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 14: and we got we got we got invited to Prince's

769
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 14: Grammy party that year. I remember I was. I was

770
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 14: psyched about that because huge Prince fans. So we go in,

771
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 14: he's on stage, he's performing with he sees me. He

772
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 14: puts his guitar down b lines for me and comes

773
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 14: to me and says to me, Yo, Libra Scale was

774
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 14: a good album and don't let anybody tell you different.

775
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 14: Back up stage and finished what he was doing, and

776
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 14: that that for me in that moment, because I was

777
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 14: I was, I was beat up.

778
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: I was.

779
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 15: I was beat up. Prince liked the album to hell

780
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 15: with anybody that didn't like it. Look tell what all, y'all, I.

781
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 5: Gotta give you credit before we go.

782
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 6: Your versus Battle probably the most slept on but absolutely

783
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 6: Classicpreciate that class.

784
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 15: The reason I was there last night with there's some

785
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 15: some things is in the works.

786
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 14: We're having some discussions, some discussions about some possibilities.

787
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's that's talking about it.

788
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 5: We got to see you.

789
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 15: You know why y'all are here. Okay, So if I

790
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 15: was to do it again.

791
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: Who who I want to see you against?

792
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 15: That was because that's the main thing right now.

793
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: Doing something that nobody would expect.

794
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 5: No, you go first.

795
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Jamie FOXX. I'm gonna say Jamie Fox.

796
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 8: I like that.

797
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 15: That's that's I'm actually not mad at that unexpected.

798
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start.

799
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 5: You can't say, are you gonna say? No?

800
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: I want to mix it up?

801
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 8: I said, Jamie was so such a good answer, I

802
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 8: wouldn't go top it.

803
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: I think you would mix it up Maxwell.

804
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 14: If you if we were talking jess A, R and

805
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 14: B Battle, I think that I think that might be

806
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 14: a move.

807
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 15: I think it might be a moved.

808
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 5: So you're going.

809
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 15: But if I pull out any of the pop records,

810
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 15: you can't do the records.

811
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: That's why Jamie Fox would be good.

812
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 5: But they got wrapped because he got twenty of the thing.

813
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah he got twenty, Jamie twenty. Jamis he got features twenty.

814
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: Now you got twenty including features? Yeah, yeah we have Yeah,

815
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 2: that's that's what you know we're talking about.

816
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 5: All right, He'll be radio zoom te weekend.

817
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 6: The total Goodes night is upon us, our croppy head man,

818
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 6: the legend himself made mentality.

819
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 12: Thank you for having me. Man, come on man, y'all

820
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 12: all legends right here. So to sit down right here,

821
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 12: to be included in this, this conversation, in this couch,

822
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 12: it means I did the work, truly.

823
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 11: That's really so.

824
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: I feel like you reinvent yourself. Can you use use

825
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: things that's trending to reinvent yourself? So we gotta talk

826
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: about this versus. When did you decide Okay, I'm a

827
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: remke this flip it? And did you think it was

828
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: going to go viral? Like people so many verses. I

829
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 2: don't watch the verses. I watched his recut.

830
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 12: Yeah that's a mussy listens and shout out to my

831
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 12: brother's spice Adams Man like without him and when the

832
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 12: honeys we connected and just did it organically. But to

833
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 12: your point of reinvention, I want to talk about that

834
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 12: for a second because we're in a room full of

835
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 12: artists right and twenty years ago this same type of

836
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 12: room existed and it was a whole new set of

837
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 12: it's a whole different set of artists. They come and

838
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 12: they go. I don't purposely jump on something that's trendy

839
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 12: because I'm like, ah, it's gonna be viral or it's

840
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 12: gonna I just live in today. I live in the now,

841
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 12: and I create from a now space. And so if

842
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 12: I always stay in that now space, I'm always in

843
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 12: what the current water flow is as opposed to like

844
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 12: creek water or like pond water. It's not dead, it's

845
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 12: not stagnant. So you'll never see me talking about what

846
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 12: I did last year or ten years ago. So I

847
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 12: try to stay in that flow of that so that

848
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 12: that helps me reinvent, like skin cells, like it just

849
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 12: gradually does it naturally organically, as opposed to trying to

850
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 12: do it. You're not gonna see me bleaching my skin

851
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 12: to try to get it, trying to get fresh skin.

852
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: It just does it on it. The Guard would be

853
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 2: highly disappointed.

854
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 12: About Come on, keys want to represent the light skin

855
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 12: coalition with pride. You know, I don't need to get.

856
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 5: No lighter We got together exactly. One of the things

857
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 5: that I think people don't really give you credit for.

858
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 6: Maybe they'll know is how you've turned the business of

859
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 6: comedy into an actual business or braining content licensing.

860
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 5: Owning it it. He talked about that a little bit.

861
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, for sure. I I've always heard not to spend

862
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 12: your own money, right, And it made sense at first

863
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 12: until I keep getting my tax bill at the end

864
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 12: of the year, right, and so I'm like, hold on,

865
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 12: I'm sending money to dudes who wasn't with me shooting

866
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 12: in them, and I don't know what they're doing with that,

867
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 12: and it's a lot of that that I'm sending out.

868
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 12: So it's like, all right, Well, the way my business

869
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 12: is set up, if I can expense it, if I

870
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 12: could draw my expenses versus my earnings at the end

871
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 12: of the year, why not investing my own lifestyle and

872
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 12: things that I want to spend that money on before

873
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 12: I have to send it over to those guys until

874
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 12: I fully learned and maybe y'all can talk about this

875
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 12: offline with me, until I learned how to pay three

876
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 12: hundred dollars like Donald did in taxes and get the

877
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 12: right loopholes legally, I'm gonna go ahead and do my

878
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 12: legal version of that, which is I'm gonna invest the

879
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 12: bread that I got into my own projects. So what

880
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 12: I do is, for example, I create I shot my

881
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 12: own stand up special HBO, Netflix. None of them was

882
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 12: coming knocking on my door. Not to say that they

883
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 12: won't eventually, but they didn't really know I was doing

884
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 12: stand up, So I knew an offer wasn't just gonna

885
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 12: fly into my doorsteps. So I shot myint and when

886
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 12: licensed it with Kevin Hart at LOL, that's my brother,

887
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 12: licensed it, got it back, and now we're shopping for

888
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 12: a new deal for it. So I already made that

889
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 12: money and I'm about to make money on it again.

890
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 12: So that's pretty much my short term template of how

891
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Speaker 12: I do things.

892
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Speaker 7: Let me ask you, man, during the time of the verses,

893
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 7: you also took some of that same energy and put

894
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 7: it towards Kevin Samuels.

895
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Speaker 8: The rest of peace.

896
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 7: Kevin Samuels, he's no longer here. But when you got

897
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 7: the news of his passion, you know, because he talked

898
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 7: about high value man and you know how he spoke

899
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 7: upon women. How did that affect you? You understand me

900
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 7: and your platform, like, did you get any feedback on that?

901
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 7: What was the actual thoughts about Kevin?

902
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 12: So the main feedback because and I've had to I

903
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 12: had to talk about this a couple of times, obviously,

904
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 12: But the character that I do, doctor Devin Fonteined, is

905
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 12: a mix of people. I used to do this character

906
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 12: ain't fintained ten years ago about the flamboyant brother that

907
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 12: we all know in the hood that ain't comfortable with

908
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 12: it saying what it really is, right, So I always

909
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 12: did this. That's why the voice is so like exaggerated

910
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 12: in cartoony, that's Fontanine. So the more I got into

911
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 12: imitating this therapist guy, because I always called him Devin,

912
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 12: it was never straight Kevin Samuels. I started calling him

913
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Speaker 12: Devin because I didn't really know enough about him. All

914
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Speaker 12: I saw was the little clips that people will send me,

915
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 12: and I was like, all right, let me just play

916
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 12: a character that's similar to him that don't really want

917
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 12: to be on the line even though he's trying to

918
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 12: help these people. And I just exaggerated it. And the

919
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 12: more I got into the voice, it became Fontaine. So

920
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 12: that's why it wasn't a direct Yeah, it wasn't that personal.

921
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 12: It wasn't a like when he passed, it wasn't a

922
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 12: direct effect on me, like rest in peace to the brother,

923
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 12: but I had I literally we never met. I don't

924
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 12: know him like that personally, so you know, he he

925
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Speaker 12: created a platform of online therapy that I thought was

926
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Speaker 12: humorous for my character to partake in. So that's really

927
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Speaker 12: the extent of it.

928
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Speaker 2: When we talked about the business of comedy, we talked

929
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Speaker 2: to Steve Harvey, he was like, you know, when he

930
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Speaker 2: first started, he never understood business. It was just go

931
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Speaker 2: and tell jokes, and then he understood the business later on.

932
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Speaker 2: But we see a lot of comics now on Instagram,

933
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Speaker 2: but I'm still not sure if they fully understand like

934
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Speaker 2: that comedy it's like music business, right, Like comedy is

935
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Speaker 2: a business. So when did you realize that comedy was

936
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Speaker 2: actually a business? And you what would you say to

937
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: up and coming comics that have a talent but they

938
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Speaker 2: only really know how to make people laugh.

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Speaker 12: I knew it was a business from day one. I

940
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 12: went to college for business. I have a master's degree

941
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Speaker 12: in business. So even back then, when I was a

942
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Speaker 12: broke college student at an HBCU Fable State University shout Out,

943
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Speaker 12: I knew that I was going into the show but

944
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Speaker 12: the entertainment industry, I already had the talent so I

945
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 12: didn't waste my college years taking up theater. And I

946
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 12: was like, no, I know I could do that. When

947
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 12: I get on the stage, I want to know what

948
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Speaker 12: these dudes are talking about on these contracts, and on

949
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 12: these deals I need to be able to talk to

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Speaker 12: my lawyer and be able to communicate and speak the

951
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Speaker 12: same language. So I don't know who understands business. I'm

952
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 12: not in comedy. But when I look at guys like

953
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Speaker 12: eighty five South, when I look at guys like Desi

954
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955
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Speaker 12: and that they really created a business model for themselves

956
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Speaker 12: with the help of Steve Harvey, because Steve has been

957
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Speaker 12: og to some of those younger guys to me as well,

958
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Speaker 12: And yeah, it's really about creating a product and being

959
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Speaker 12: able to market it and sell it. And if you

960
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Speaker 12: don't understand as a comedians, as a rapper, as an

961
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Speaker 12: art whatever, as an actor, that you were also this,

962
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 12: you're gonna be waiting for the phone to ring and

963
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Speaker 12: to be hired, as opposed to figuring out how to

964
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965
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Speaker 12: I was saying this earlier Black excellence. We always run

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Speaker 12: to the other side to give validation, and if we

1008
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Speaker 12: could just put uside all the competition and all the

1009
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Speaker 12: bickering and all all the nonsense that black people do,

1010
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Speaker 12: namely black men who don't sit down when we have

1011
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 12: an issue who have a difference in Me and his

1012
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 12: brother don't even have the same religious beliefs, right, but

1013
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 12: me and his brother break bread. We talk offline. We

1014
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 12: don't even talk about religion. I just see a brother

1015
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 12: that respect and we we just we just comment on

1016
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Speaker 12: each other's stuff. We we we we uplift yo. You good,

1017
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 12: you straight, Yo. Let's talk about songs. So when we

1018
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 12: see each other next, if we could just get that unity,

1019
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 12: that that excellency and understand that we are are more

1020
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 12: powerful together, you know what I mean? For me, that's

1021
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Speaker 12: what I look forward to seeing. I don't want to

1022
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 12: see another young rapper dead or another all that all

1023
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 12: that energy is something that we need to push past,

1024
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 12: and I pray that we do. But that's that's what

1025
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 12: I'm looking forward to this weekend. Is it's to see

1026
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 12: who shows up in the in the craziest outfit, you

1027
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 12: know what I mean, the sparkly shoes and just has fun,

1028
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 12: you know, being secure in them and who they are,

1029
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 12: and that doesn't rub off on, you know, in a

1030
00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 12: negative way to somebody else.

1031
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 7: You know, stories is more powerful than knowledge, man, and

1032
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 7: I think comedians a lot of times get the opportunity

1033
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 7: to tell stories.

1034
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 8: In a way where you're teaching lessons. You understand me that.

1035
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 7: At the same time, medians have been heavily censored. Nowadays,

1036
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 7: they understand me. But I think that it's important to

1037
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 7: allow comedians to go into the dark spaces because that's

1038
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 7: where you bring people out, that's where you get to

1039
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 7: have real conversations and we get to push the curture forward.

1040
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 7: So what's your take on do you censor yourself in

1041
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 7: fear of the so called council culture where nobody actually

1042
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 7: gets counseled.

1043
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 8: And then what's the importance of comedians being able to narrate?

1044
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 8: And you know, and the king, the court jester was

1045
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 8: able to say anything he wanted to. You feel me.

1046
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 7: He can talk about the king, he can say he's

1047
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 7: a tyrant and everybody laughs. But that's necessary to decompress

1048
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 7: and you know, click that valve of pressure in society.

1049
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 8: So what's your take on that.

1050
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 12: I don't do anything out of fear. I don't respond

1051
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 12: to fear. I said what I said. At the same time,

1052
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 12: if you know me as a human being, I'm a

1053
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 12: very tactful, compassionate guy. I'm very empathetic to people. So

1054
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 12: I'm never trying to talk about anything on stage or

1055
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 12: in my in my humor, that's gonna make somebody feel

1056
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 12: like it's affecting who they are as a person or

1057
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 12: affecting their soul. But there are such things as truths.

1058
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 12: There's some there's some ugly truths out there that we

1059
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 12: got to talk about. And I feel like the faster

1060
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 12: we do that and get comfortable with that, the better

1061
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 12: we are. My guy, good to see you, The better

1062
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 12: we are with being able to push past it. And

1063
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Speaker 12: salute to Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle, those guys who

1064
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 12: make it their platform to speak truth. It may not

1065
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 12: be what everybody likes to hear, but it's what it's

1066
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 12: true to them.

1067
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Speaker 7: So you ain't worry about getting slapped on him. You're

1068
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 7: not worry about getting slapped on him.

1069
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Speaker 8: You know me. You know what I mean too.

1070
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Speaker 5: You know what I study.

1071
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 11: Say that I can't be touched.

1072
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 12: I touched back every man is you know, we're able

1073
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 12: to get to be touched, but is how you respond

1074
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 12: to the touch.

1075
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Speaker 2: My last question for you, like being a comedian and

1076
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 2: everybody knows you you're you're a very you know, outgoing person.

1077
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: As far as your personality, people come up to you,

1078
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: they tell you jokes. Do you ever get tired?

1079
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 5: Does that ever?

1080
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Speaker 9: Like?

1081
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 2: Yo, bro, I'm not right now is not the time.

1082
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Speaker 12: It's like yo, when people come to you'll ask your

1083
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 12: money and my portfolio. Yeah, it's psycho.

1084
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 5: You're like nigga.

1085
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Speaker 9: I just want you to walk like about crazy theories

1086
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 9: of the world right now, so you get questions, Yeah, time,

1087
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 9: and you gotta you gotta explain the plight of the

1088
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 9: black man on every tripatory everywhere you go.

1089
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 12: Brother, that's so key. So let me let me ask

1090
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 12: you this. They say that black men on the phone

1091
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 12: to getting diabetes. Do you think that beat? This is

1092
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 12: directly connected to what poorn we watch because them booties

1093
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 12: be sweet you like nigga.

1094
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 8: I just tell you to tell you to tap into yourself.

1095
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 8: I appreciate you all man, some good questions. Keep asking

1096
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 8: yourself that right?

1097
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 11: Yeah, I don't.

1098
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know. I love that people show the love

1099
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 12: and they're aware of what I do. But it ain't

1100
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 12: always appropriate. You and walk up to Mike Tyson like, hey,

1101
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 12: you a boxer, punch me and my goddamn face right now?

1102
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: In fact, would you do that?

1103
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 15: Could you do that?

1104
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 8: So?

1105
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 12: Nah, man, I just be chilling.

1106
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 8: That's what's up. That's what's up.

1107
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: Man.

1108
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 8: I appreciate you, man.

1109
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 12: I appreciate y'all. Man must respect to y'all. Like this

1110
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 12: is a it's a great, a great conversation I've been

1111
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 12: waiting to have with all of us.

1112
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: Definitely connect off, let's do it, please do all right?

1113
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: So we had this, Like I said, this is what

1114
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: I'm most excited about, my god symbol. So I'm a

1115
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: big fan of the music and the era that we

1116
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: came from is very nostalgic to us, sir, and a

1117
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: few people give me that feeling. I got a chance

1118
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: to meet Benning the Butcher and I told him that

1119
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 2: and simple and I don't even know if you know this,

1120
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 2: but like I mean your comments like fire, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1121
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 2: yeah yeah. So my man, that doula. I'm like, you know,

1122
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: simple he like I know him because you repost them

1123
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: all the time. So lyrical, giant fanking bro, thank you,

1124
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: thank you man.

1125
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 8: Man.

1126
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 6: This is like a breath of like fresh air. Like

1127
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 6: you said, that music that we grew up on. When

1128
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 6: we heard that sound, it was like automatic, like well

1129
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 6: what was that?

1130
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 10: What?

1131
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 17: No, that was the whole point, bro.

1132
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 18: It's like I just was sitting back like a few

1133
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 18: years ago, and I'm just like, I'm trying things. I'm experimenting.

1134
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 18: I'm doing melody music, writing pop songs and APG writing

1135
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 18: for Scooby Doo album, and I just had to sit

1136
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 18: down like man who and Maya as an artist, you

1137
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 18: know what I'm saying. And when I think about it,

1138
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 18: always go back to my uncle's, my mama, you know

1139
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 18: what I mean. They come from that era. So I'm

1140
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 18: really a reflection to them, you know what I mean.

1141
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 18: But I can't just be out here rapping on old beats,

1142
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 18: and it's like, how do we redefine that, you know

1143
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 18: what I mean? How do we make it current for today?

1144
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 18: So that's just literally been my goal is to basically

1145
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 18: bring back that nostalgic feeling just in today's form.

1146
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 7: So you know, I'm from the Bay, I'm from Oakland,

1147
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 7: and I know I always tell people I'm from Oakland.

1148
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 8: That's why I'm so well spoken. Exactly understand me exactly.

1149
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 8: It's a certain energy.

1150
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 17: It's any not on the area.

1151
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 8: You understand you're gonna do it a little different.

1152
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 7: And I feel like that's what I get in your

1153
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 7: music as well, because there's a lot of sucking shit

1154
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 7: that go off.

1155
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, but your music is like anti sucker and you

1156
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 8: call it out.

1157
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 7: You feel me so, But at the same time you

1158
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 7: be at your edge where it's like I'm not afraid

1159
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 7: to stand right here.

1160
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 8: You feel me and I'm gonna do a fearless man.

1161
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 8: Where you get that from?

1162
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,479
Speaker 18: Like I say, bro, my mama, you know what I'm saying,

1163
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 18: Like my uncle's bro. Like I come from a family

1164
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 18: bro where it's like, I'm supposed to be in jail, right.

1165
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 18: I was born in jail. My mama had me in jail.

1166
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 18: My Auntie went to jail, My uncle Ronnie did ten

1167
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 18: years in jail. My uncle Speedy told on my uncle

1168
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 18: Ryan to get out of jail. My favorite cousin went

1169
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 18: to jail. So it's like, technically jail was supposed to

1170
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 18: be part of my story. But always seen where they

1171
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 18: would go wrong growing up, you know what I mean.

1172
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 18: And I'd be like, you know what, I ain't about

1173
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 18: to sell dope. I might dabble with a little weed

1174
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 18: here and there against some money, you know what I'm saying,

1175
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 18: But I ain't fucking with cocaine.

1176
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 17: I ain't on that.

1177
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 8: You know what?

1178
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 18: I mean, I ain't Finna just be spinning because somebody

1179
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 18: punched my little nigga in the face.

1180
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 17: You know what I'm saying.

1181
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 18: It's like you gotta really do something to me to

1182
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 18: make me want to physically harm you. You know what

1183
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 18: I'm saying. So I just always put that into music.

1184
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 18: You know, it's wrong, it's uncut. It's how I feel

1185
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 18: most people scared to say how they feel. It's just

1186
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 18: how you gonna help somebody get through life if you

1187
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 18: can't communicate what you going through.

1188
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like it's a thin line between

1189
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 2: like the type of music got you making. So it's

1190
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: so nostalgic to me because it's like, Nah's my favorite

1191
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: rapper of all time, right, and Na's always he was

1192
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: always like a positive vibe, but he was never a

1193
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: positive rapper, Like you know what I'm saying. He's still

1194
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 2: a street dude, but he could always get a message

1195
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 2: of positivity where it's like some of the like more

1196
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 2: they put you in a box. It's a positive rapper,

1197
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: it's hard to ever get out that box.

1198
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 10: You.

1199
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 2: I kind of look at like that like like it

1200
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 2: was written, like you know what I'm saying. When I

1201
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 2: listened to your music and it's like Big Farmer do

1202
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: some more dope than Big Niche. You know what I'm saying.

1203
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: It's messages.

1204
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 17: It's a fact though, but it's vibes.

1205
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 12: Like you know what I'm saying, it's vibe.

1206
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 2: You got the Cardier frames on. It's it's not ultra

1207
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: preachy do that on purpose.

1208
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 17: So I'm front like, Bro just said, we're from the Bay.

1209
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 5: Bro.

1210
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 17: You know what I'm saying. We from the Panthers.

1211
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.

1212
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 18: We were gonna have some information. But at the same time,

1213
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 18: this shit in us, it ain't on us. It's it's

1214
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 18: Is'm Bro. I grew up knocking women playing ball.

1215
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 8: You know.

1216
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 18: I was that nigga in school. I didn't get hot

1217
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 18: in music and became cool. I was always cool, you

1218
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 18: know what I'm saying before I was doing music, you

1219
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 18: know what I'm saying. So it's like that has to

1220
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 18: be shown in the music. And that's no offense to

1221
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 18: you know, the spiritual rappers or the conscious rappers, because

1222
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 18: we need them too. But at the same time, Bro,

1223
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 18: it's a lack of cool niggas you know what I

1224
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 18: mean in the industry, and we all just can't be

1225
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 18: on this gangster shit just shooting everybody. It's just like, bro,

1226
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 18: come on, we all ain't killing everybody. Bro, It's more

1227
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 18: good going on in the ghetto than bad. It's just

1228
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 18: the bad it's more publicized, you know what I'm saying.

1229
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 18: I'm just here to speak on the good and call

1230
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 18: out the sucker shit like bro, sit.

1231
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 6: You know so so that that moment that La leak

1232
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 6: is freestyle, I feel like that's when the world was

1233
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 6: put on noted.

1234
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 17: For sure, that sure I was coming for sure?

1235
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 5: What was the more?

1236
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 6: How did that more feel to you? Like you've been

1237
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 6: working at this right and you've got this moment to

1238
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 6: Sean and if exploded? What was that moment that what

1239
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 6: it feels like to you at that time?

1240
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 18: About damn Tom, I've been out here both Bro, I

1241
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 18: didn't look at my big brother, small big.

1242
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 17: Brother right there.

1243
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 5: Hurricane yeah, bay area.

1244
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 8: So you know, be having a black cloud on it,

1245
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 8: you feel.

1246
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, there's a lot of talent in the Bay,

1247
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 7: but it don't really get shown to break out, what

1248
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 7: you think, because but now I'm saying, you know, individuals

1249
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 7: such as yourself, LaRusso, and I feel like the internet

1250
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 7: allows you to navigate that black cloud you feel when

1251
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 7: you was in then coming out of the game Number one,

1252
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 7: who did you look up to in the Bay Area

1253
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 7: and did you feel like being a Bay Area rapper

1254
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 7: you was gonna have that cloud and not be able to.

1255
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 17: Expand on For sure. That was the reason I moved out.

1256
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 18: Like I grew up on Short forty, Max dre Keithy,

1257
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 18: Sneak turf Talk, you know what I mean. Like I

1258
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 18: grew up listening to Bay music. But my mom, my

1259
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 18: mom bury business minded. So my mom was in the

1260
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 18: real estate early, so she had homes in Texas, Vegas,

1261
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 18: Atlantic City, and I would always move around as a kid.

1262
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 18: I know this Bay music wasn't being played in these places,

1263
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 18: and then when I would play it, people wouldn't get it,

1264
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 18: you know what I mean.

1265
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 17: The tempo might beat you fast or whatever it may be.

1266
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 18: So when I started doing music, I was like, damn,

1267
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 18: I want to be the person that keep that bait

1268
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 18: authenticity in my content but still make the sound of

1269
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 18: it universal enough to where the world could get it.

1270
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 18: And I feel like in the Bay the reason we

1271
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 18: got that black cloud is because we got a limited

1272
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 18: amount of black people in California, you feel me. So

1273
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 18: when you going to South, you got black restaurant owners,

1274
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 18: black hookah spot owners, black car washes, which gives black

1275
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 18: music more platforms.

1276
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 17: Right over here we got very minimum of that.

1277
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 18: So I feel like a lot of artists feel like

1278
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 18: it's a certain amount of seats and success or when

1279
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 18: somebody else win, it like they took your spot.

1280
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 17: When it's like, nah, we all could win.

1281
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 18: We just got to ask questions and communicate with each

1282
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 18: other to figure out a way to help each other

1283
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 18: get to the goal.

1284
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 8: Yeap, I rock with up.

1285
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 18: Your mom was in real estate? Are you invested in

1286
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 18: I'm getting into it. I'm getting into it. My mom

1287
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 18: been on me about it for years. I just been

1288
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 18: so psycho with this rap, just driven, just tunnel vision,

1289
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 18: you know what I mean. I ain't want to do

1290
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 18: nothing else. But now that you know, my finances is

1291
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 18: growing and I'm getting a lot better, my mom put

1292
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 18: me in position to do a lot of shit. I'm

1293
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 18: actually trying to get a duplex right now, you feel me.

1294
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 18: So that's definitely something I want to get into. And

1295
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 18: after my rap career, I want to be an architect,

1296
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 18: you know what I mean? So I want to design

1297
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 18: homes and buildings and kitchens and all kinds of things.

1298
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 5: What it's about, That's what it's about.

1299
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 6: So obviously the freestyle goes crazy, the goats that goes

1300
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 6: out going crazy to shout out to that, we all go, yeah,

1301
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 6: how have the business opportunities been a coming to you?

1302
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 6: Like how people approach you? What's your status of independent?

1303
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 6: Where what's going to come here?

1304
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 18: So I'm on a major, I'm signed to Atlantic, but

1305
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 18: I move like I'm independent, you know what I mean.

1306
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 18: We actually getting ready to start my label. I don't

1307
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 18: like calling it a label, but that's how most people

1308
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 18: can understand what it is. But we're getting ready to

1309
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 18: start our company and it's called Majority Rules, and the

1310
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 18: whole idea of it is to be a brochure for artists. Right,

1311
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 18: So when artists get this money when they first get signed,

1312
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 18: don't nobody tell you what to do with it, right,

1313
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 18: You just get the money and it's like, I ain't

1314
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 18: never had it. So I'm finna go get all the

1315
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 18: clothes I want it. I'm finna go knock the bitch

1316
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 18: I couldn't get two months ago. I'm finna go get

1317
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 18: the crib. I'm finna go eat where I couldn't eat right,

1318
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 18: and then you look back three months down the line

1319
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 18: and you broke, and then you're looking at the label

1320
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 18: like what y'all doing. Y'all supposed to be helping me

1321
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 18: get money when it's like in a actuality nigga, you

1322
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 18: was supposed to take that money and go get an

1323
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 18: independent publicist, you feel me, Go get a camera man,

1324
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 18: Go get a strategic go get a digital team. So

1325
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 18: we want to be the people that signed digital teams,

1326
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 18: sign creative people, signed producers and songwriters. So when artists

1327
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 18: get that money, they can come to us and we

1328
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 18: could break it down. Okay, bro, this is just a

1329
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 18: producer you could work with. It's somebody that can help

1330
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 18: you creatively, and they'll have an infrastructure up under them

1331
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 18: and they ain't gotta lose so much money in the

1332
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 18: process of doing that.

1333
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: Now, I think what you represent is very important because,

1334
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: like you said, it's like I can just regular people

1335
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: in the music business. Everybody's a drug addict, everybody's a killer,

1336
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 2: but it's like the majority of people aren't like that.

1337
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: And when I hear you speak, you sound sober, and

1338
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: that's something that is rare. That's rare.

1339
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 17: I'm saw stup on the tequila right now, by the way.

1340
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: But even when I say sober, I just don't mean

1341
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 2: from drugs. I mean yes, humility, just yeah. You just

1342
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 2: sound like you got common sense, like you know what

1343
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And I appreciate that. I think a lot

1344
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 2: of times we talked to artists and it's like, damn, bro, like,

1345
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: just speak to me like a regular person.

1346
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 18: But it's like some of them don't know how you

1347
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 18: know what I mean, Like some of these kids where

1348
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 18: you gotta think you have a little TOUTO from Jacksonville, Florida, right,

1349
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 18: and he made a song in his closet with his

1350
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 18: homies about some issues they was having with some niggas

1351
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 18: from up the street, and some little suburban kid posted

1352
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 18: this on TikTok and it went viral and the world

1353
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 18: found out about it, and then labels started calling them.

1354
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 18: They flying him to La, they throwing him in these

1355
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 18: big studios, they putting them with the producers. He don't

1356
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 18: even know what to do. It's all new for him.

1357
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 18: He ain't never had to sit in front of a

1358
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 18: camera and talk to nobody. Like I said, I've been

1359
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,479
Speaker 18: popular in my whole life, So I had to argue

1360
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 18: with my teachers, you know what I'm saying. I had

1361
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 18: to fight with my basketball coach. Like I'm used to

1362
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 18: talking to people. Some people in them environments, they're not

1363
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 18: used to talking or telling what's going on. So we

1364
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 18: can't blame them for that. We just have to educate

1365
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 18: them and help them navigate through that. But at the

1366
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 18: same time, niggas gotta want to help.

1367
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 8: Man, you didn't been on a lot of platforms, man,

1368
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 8: Jimmy Kimmel.

1369
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 7: People like, it's interesting because I feel like, kind of

1370
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 7: like myself right when somebody's seen me on the platform,

1371
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 7: it's like something that's not supposed to be there.

1372
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 8: It's an enigma. You feel me, and somehow you challenge

1373
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 8: that and navigate. Like I feel like we're in an

1374
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 8: era where it's a glitch and a matrix.

1375
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 7: You feel me, and it ain't even really a question

1376
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 7: more so about you know, maintaining that integrity that you got.

1377
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 8: You understand me just along that path, because I could

1378
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 8: just see the future.

1379
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 7: Are you growing and see the brand developing and people

1380
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 7: really rocking with that, and you're creating a whole new

1381
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 7: archetype that people can follow as a blueprint.

1382
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 8: You understand me.

1383
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 7: People love Nipsey because of what he represented. You feel me,

1384
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 7: and then you got that same representation.

1385
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 18: So half of the shit I'm speaking on and how

1386
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 18: I was able to find out about this information was

1387
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 18: from Nipsey. I met Nipsey in twenty twelve and eight

1388
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 18: three Sea Fence in Atlanta. And this is when the

1389
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 18: wee cookies that just came out right, and we was

1390
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 18: the only niggas with cookies in the bay. So we

1391
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 18: got something to the eighth right. We was in the

1392
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 18: club club compound smoking and I feel somebody tap me.

1393
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 18: He like, hey, bro, y'all got some of that for

1394
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 18: sale with y'all smoking, you feel me? I'm like, man,

1395
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 18: it's some new shit. I'm like, nigg I'm a fan

1396
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 18: of you. I ain't gonna sell you no weed, but

1397
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 18: we could smoke together.

1398
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 12: You feel me.

1399
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 18: He talked it up that night. He gave me his number.

1400
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 18: He said, man, whenever you in La, hit me. I

1401
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 18: lied to the nigger. I say, I live in La.

1402
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 18: I'll be there Monday.

1403
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 12: You feel me?

1404
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 8: He like, all right in me.

1405
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 17: I flew back to the bait, got my car and

1406
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 17: drove to La.

1407
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 12: You feel me?

1408
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 17: I ain't have a.

1409
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 18: Hotel room nothing. I just drove out there and I

1410
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 18: got to the Grapevine. I was like, bro, I'm in LA.

1411
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 18: I just got back where you at. Twenty minutes later

1412
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 18: he sent me an address. He said, I'm at the studio.

1413
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 8: Pull up.

1414
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 18: I went to the studio. You had a studio downtown.

1415
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 18: Went to the studio, uh, and we had a conversation.

1416
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 18: He gave me his book, The twenty two Immutable Laws

1417
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 18: of Brandon Right, and that book taught me how to

1418
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 18: stop looking at myself as an individual and how to

1419
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 18: grow my identity as a business.

1420
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 8: You know what I mean.

1421
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 18: So everything that I'm speaking on majority rules, The reason

1422
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 18: I stuck in that one lane and just rapping it

1423
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 18: comes from that book that Nip gave me.

1424
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 17: So rest in peace to.

1425
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 15: The goat man.

1426
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 5: That's a fact. So the album is on the way, sir.

1427
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 5: They always say you got your whole life to make

1428
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 5: your first album, that's sir, at three months to make

1429
01:02:58,680 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 5: it second?

1430
01:02:59,520 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 8: Sir?

1431
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 5: Do you feel any pressure for this debut?

1432
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 6: Right, because obviously we come up, we know Ellmatic and

1433
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 6: we know we know these debuts obviously get rich of

1434
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:08,959
Speaker 6: not trying.

1435
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 5: What what's the emotional building up to this moment.

1436
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 18: Man, My thing bro is just really it ain't even

1437
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 18: about like trying to go platinum or like impressing everybody.

1438
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 18: It's just more so fine and where more of my

1439
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 18: fans are, you know what I mean? Knowing what they

1440
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 18: like to drink, knowing what they like to eat, knowing

1441
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 18: where they like to shop. That's really what I'm most

1442
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 18: excited about. So I don't really feel no pressure because

1443
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 18: I don't get into other people's expectations of what they

1444
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 18: feel I should be doing, you know what I mean.

1445
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 18: And I didn't done this for too long, and I'm

1446
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 18: damn good at it, you know what I mean. So

1447
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 18: I know anything I drop it ain't gonna be wet,

1448
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 18: you know what I mean.

1449
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 17: So I'm I'm I don't.

1450
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 18: I don't feel no pressure at all. I'm just really

1451
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 18: excited to get the music out more than anything.

1452
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 2: All Right, we got, we got, we gotta rap. But

1453
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 2: it's just one last thing I want to say. Not

1454
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 2: even a question, it's a request.

1455
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 12: Okay.

1456
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: I met all three of you now, and I'm glad

1457
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: that I met all three of you. You were actually

1458
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 2: how I thought you would be. I would like to

1459
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: see this collaboration Toby, Benny and Simba.

1460
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 17: Easy call Benny my brother. I just was with Bennie

1461
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 17: last night, gotta be.

1462
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: I never met Toby, but I'm a big fan of

1463
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 2: super Bowl through Humble, big fan of his big put

1464
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: it together. Appreciate you.

1465
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 17: We're gonna make sure we link back up too.

1466
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 5: Not for sure, I'm gonna keep going forward to move,

1467
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 5: but I like that.

1468
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 2: Listen, all right, We're here with the lovely beer. Thank

1469
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 2: you for joining us. Appreciate it, appreciated vibes. How you

1470
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 2: how you how you like the BT experience the weekend?

1471
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 2: This is your first time coming?

1472
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 19: Actually yeah, this is my first real This is actually

1473
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 19: my first real time coming. It's my first time being nominated.

1474
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 19: So it's a different it's a different vibe.

1475
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 6: What's that what's that feeling like when you heard the

1476
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 6: news that something that you created is now being recognized

1477
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 6: from people that look like us, a platform that's built

1478
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 6: by us.

1479
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 5: What's that feeling like?

1480
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 19: When you know you watched the BT Awards your whole

1481
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 19: life and I've always been an artist, It's like, when

1482
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 19: am I gonna get on the BET Awards? What am

1483
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 19: I gonna get on the BET Awards? And now it's

1484
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 19: just like it's just surreal. It's like it really happened.

1485
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 19: I'm like, it's crazy. God is great man for real.

1486
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 8: I'm imma ask you something a little different. I've been

1487
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 8: lately saying it's.

1488
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 7: Something called soft life, where it's like, because you got

1489
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 7: a very soft voice, but at the same time, in

1490
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 7: command's presence, you understand me. And the soft life is

1491
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 7: about like black and brown women not needing to be

1492
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 7: displayed like tough, but they can be softening, feminine energy

1493
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 7: and like show joy and laughter. You feel me what

1494
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 7: you feel about that.

1495
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 3: I love that you say that.

1496
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 19: Nobody ever says anything like that, and I'm glad because

1497
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 19: you know, I grew up in an era where it

1498
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 19: was like the nineties, early two thousands, it was very

1499
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 19: like Aliyah, and you know, it was just a different vibe.

1500
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 19: It was very like Flag Girls, and you know, just

1501
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 19: a different vibe. So I've always felt like, as an artist,

1502
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 19: I just want to be myself and whoever that translates

1503
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 19: with is who it translates with, and just not have

1504
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 19: to fit into a mold that people wanted me to

1505
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 19: fit into. When I first started making music.

1506
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 5: That's beautiful.

1507
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 8: I love it.

1508
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1509
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 19: I appreciate that.

1510
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: So how was it like working with Coole? I was

1511
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 2: like working with j Cole.

1512
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 11: Oh, Cole is amazing.

1513
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 12: Man.

1514
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 19: Cole's actually like my favorite artist to this day, like

1515
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 19: just because of who he is as a person and

1516
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 19: like not only how talented he is and the way

1517
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 19: he pushes his pen, Like he make me every time

1518
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 19: I go in the booth. Now I'm like, I got

1519
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 19: to push my pen for real, like j Cole is

1520
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 19: watching me.

1521
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 5: I can't lett J Cole dew.

1522
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,919
Speaker 2: That song is dope, The video is dope. The whole

1523
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 2: London vibe is dope. What inspired that?

1524
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 19: It's crazy because we love London and I think Jake

1525
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 19: Cole actually spent some time in London too, like extended

1526
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 19: period of time. So when we had a show out there,

1527
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 19: so we were just gearing up to go to London

1528
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 19: and I was like, all right, I'm getting in my

1529
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 19: London bag and I just like to have fun when

1530
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 19: I'm in the studio, and that's what that song was.

1531
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 19: I wasn't even expecting Jake Cole to get on it, like,

1532
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 19: to be honest, I just wanted to play it for him.

1533
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 7: What about Crypto, I've seen you do the collaboration with

1534
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 7: the crypto actually did like a little remix to it

1535
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 7: because I love that fact. Could I always say, you know,

1536
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 7: I say crypto in your person, not in your wallet.

1537
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:13,439
Speaker 8: Right, That's how I teach it to women.

1538
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 7: So what do you feel about the industry of women

1539
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 7: actually understanding this new age financial technology and stuff.

1540
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 19: Well, I just feel like as a woman, the more

1541
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 19: things you can put your money into, the better, Like

1542
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 19: whether that be real estate, whether that be a makeup brand,

1543
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 19: whether that be a salon. Crypto, Like, for me, crypto

1544
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 19: was so scary at first because I'm like, I don't

1545
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 19: know much about stocks, but it's actually like a lot

1546
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 19: easier once you get your foot in and you just

1547
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 19: try it out more. People need to just like do

1548
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 19: a little bit of crypto and then take it a

1549
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 19: little bit and grow. You're really good with the crypto

1550
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 19: I know about you.

1551
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 3: You got some tips.

1552
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 19: Anything I should anything I should invest.

1553
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 3: In while I'm here?

1554
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: What are you invested in?

1555
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 19: Like random stuff? But like stocks that like people will

1556
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 19: tell me like, oh, you should invest in this. I

1557
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 19: might go get a couple of those, but really stuff

1558
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 19: that like I use in the long term, So like

1559
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 19: I have a lot of like long term stocks.

1560
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 5: And like just stuff like that about say, we're not

1561
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 5: investing in bout tago.

1562
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 19: Actually I haven't.

1563
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 8: I haven't.

1564
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 3: They got to like pay me for me to invest

1565
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 3: in them.

1566
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 6: For so obviously being a newer artist, what's it been

1567
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 6: like for you being accepted in this industry?

1568
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 2: Right?

1569
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 5: Like, I feel like we came in with such a

1570
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 5: heat rock. It was like who is this girl? We

1571
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 5: love her? What's it been like for you just over

1572
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 5: this past year?

1573
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 19: Well, most people know I'm not a newer artist, like

1574
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 19: I've been out for like ten years. It's just I

1575
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 19: was like shelled. I had like a situation that wasn't

1576
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 19: right for me at the for a while, so nobody

1577
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 19: really knew my music like that. People just knew me,

1578
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 19: you know. So now I'm at the point where people

1579
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 19: are able to attach the face with the music and

1580
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 19: now they see like, oh, it's a real person.

1581
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 6: It's been a glass so ten years, yeah, they didn't

1582
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 6: know And now that what is that experience been?

1583
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 8: Like?

1584
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 13: Yo?

1585
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 19: Finally it feels like hard work pays off and it

1586
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 19: really just feels like you can never stop the motion,

1587
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 19: like it's always gonna be up and down motion.

1588
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 3: You just gotta find your motion.

1589
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 2: How is life for you these days? I know, like

1590
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 2: once you get up and running, everything comes at you

1591
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 2: and so many people hitting you up. It's hard to

1592
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 2: answer text messages like are you enjoying that? Because I

1593
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 2: already know you going through it because we go through it.

1594
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 3: Yo, is a question you just asked.

1595
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 19: That's a great question.

1596
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 2: Join out you feel guilty about Like that's the.

1597
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 19: Hardest part for me. It's like finding that balance of

1598
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 19: like I'm so busy and I love being busy, Like

1599
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 19: I would never not want to be as busy as

1600
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 19: I am now. But it's like finding sleep, find and eat,

1601
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 19: finding family, like those things are not being able to

1602
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 19: respond right away because it's like people think that I'm

1603
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 19: at the dispos on my.

1604
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 3: Phone and I do not have my phone nine times

1605
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 3: out of ten, so.

1606
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 19: You know, people take it's like everything gets people take

1607
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 19: it way more personal and they don't know what it's

1608
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 19: like on this life.

1609
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, on everything.

1610
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 8: Absolutely, pleasure get into you.

1611
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, bro appreciate it. I said,

1612
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 2: thank you for joining I appreciate it.

1613
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 16: It's fun again, I ain't something like this, you know,

1614
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 16: in a minute. Even bringing the culture together the dude,

1615
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 16: you know, the pol taking the culture is different.

1616
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 2: So so we see you at a lot of different events.

1617
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 2: What's the what's the power of networking? A lot of

1618
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:36,560
Speaker 2: times people artists, entertainers, entrepreneurs, they don't fully understand, Like

1619
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: even this room right here, right going around, you probably

1620
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 2: might not even want to do this, But what's the

1621
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 2: power of networking getting out there, making relationships, shaking hand

1622
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 2: things to that?

1623
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 16: Na shuld I think there's a simple beauty and collaboration,

1624
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 16: you know. However you can imagine that.

1625
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 8: Man.

1626
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 16: I feel like everybody's passion is like a puzzle piece,

1627
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 16: you know, so everybody gotta like somehow come together we

1628
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 16: make the picture, you know, and you never know who

1629
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 16: you might meet on any given day, you know. And

1630
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 16: I feel like, you know, obviously, bringing people together in

1631
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 16: one room, it's almost like a free for all, you know.

1632
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 16: So it's really about what you do with it. You know,

1633
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 16: you got to be a people person. You can't be

1634
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 16: you can't be shot, you can't be.

1635
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 15: Quiet.

1636
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 16: You know, speak up, you know, speak speak your truth,

1637
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 16: you know, speak your story, you know, and the rest

1638
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 16: is history.

1639
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, one of the things you spoke about is

1640
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 5: passions and so we've seen you with the music.

1641
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 6: Obviously that's one of your passions. But I think people

1642
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 6: have underrated you in the acting field. That's one of

1643
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 6: the things that you know, seeing you in power.

1644
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 5: What did you discover the power the passion for acting.

1645
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 16: I think growing up being exposed to so much at

1646
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 16: a young age, and that's just like traveling so many

1647
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 16: different places, being exposed to so many different cultures, like

1648
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 16: culture shocks, you know, which ultimately allows you to grow

1649
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 16: at a young age early, you know, and you're able

1650
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 16: to really like become a chameleon, you know, and so

1651
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 16: on top of who I am and my personality, you know,

1652
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 16: my mom always you know how they say, boy, you're

1653
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 16: a character. You know, like you say that every day

1654
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 16: for years. You know, eventually you become one, you know,

1655
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 16: but still you're you. And she was like, you know,

1656
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 16: they got to industry for that. But I would never

1657
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 16: really want to, you know, claim it up until obviously

1658
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 16: I was growing up and realize, oh, this is a

1659
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 16: space for me. Actually, I thought you had to just

1660
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 16: be like picked, you know, I ain't know you can

1661
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 16: actually like put yourself forward and you know, really do it.

1662
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 8: You know.

1663
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 15: Back then when she was telling me, So she's all

1664
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 15: about growing.

1665
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 8: You know what about legacy?

1666
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 7: Man? I feel like your family as a family of brothers,

1667
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,839
Speaker 7: each one of you all have your own individual presence,

1668
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 7: but collectively y'all represent a legacy.

1669
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 8: You understand me.

1670
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 7: And I was just looking up some as far as like,

1671
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 7: you know, y'all do the dances and dancing it's one

1672
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 7: of the most spiritual rituals known to man. And y'all

1673
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 7: like bring energy and joy at the same time. And

1674
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 7: y'all representation. You understand me, y'all bring people together. What

1675
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 7: do you feel like just as a collective and as individual,

1676
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 7: what y'all represent for the culture as a family of

1677
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,759
Speaker 7: like black men putting out that energy.

1678
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 15: You know, family is everything.

1679
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 16: Not to sound cliche, but you know, growing up you

1680
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 16: realize that importance, and you realize the unity and that

1681
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 16: and the power and that and where that could go.

1682
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 16: And then next thing, you know, friends become family, and

1683
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 16: then next thing you know, you know what I mean,

1684
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 16: it's that effect and nothing beats that. And I feel

1685
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 16: like whatever we want to do and apply that factor,

1686
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 16: it's a no brainer. You know, it's almost like an

1687
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:47,799
Speaker 16: instant success, you know what I mean. It's almost founded

1688
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 16: off love, you know what I mean, unity, you know,

1689
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 16: but then spread with love and unity as well, you know,

1690
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 16: And I feel like that's the real you know, that's

1691
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 16: what brings us together.

1692
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 2: I feel like you're very talented with the music, acting

1693
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 2: through fashion. How do you know what to focus your

1694
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 2: energy on, because sometimes you can spread yourself too thin

1695
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: and be like all over the place. So how do

1696
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 2: you personally know? Like, this is what I'm doubling down

1697
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 2: on right now.

1698
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 16: You know, I'm big on timing, you know, And I

1699
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 16: feel like who I am as a person, who are

1700
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 16: who we are as people. We we go through different

1701
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 16: stages and where we want to get off what we

1702
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 16: feel like, you know, we want to put out, you know,

1703
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 16: into the world. And I feel like with me doing

1704
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 16: the act and me doing the music, sometimes it is

1705
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 16: hard to juggle. I like to say it balances itself.

1706
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 16: One doesn't really occupy the other. But then at the

1707
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 16: end of the day, I'm trying to bring it all

1708
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 16: together through my music. You're gonna hear the fashion in

1709
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 16: the music. You're gonna hear them the characters I'm playing

1710
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 16: in my music. I may can't go directly to that

1711
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 16: place but I can like perform it in a way

1712
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 16: where you know that character is, you know that person

1713
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 16: going through it. Right now, I'm over that, but I

1714
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 16: still want you to feel feel that. I felt like

1715
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 16: I need to make a song about it, you know.

1716
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 16: So it is you know, tough, you know, but then

1717
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 16: it balances itself out and that's rewarding. Everybody has their

1718
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 16: good days bad days, you know. I feel like that's

1719
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,560
Speaker 16: the timing with almost like how I juggle, you know,

1720
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 16: the things I like to put my heart into.

1721
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 2: For sure.

1722
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 5: It's funny.

1723
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 6: Well, Kes, you brought up legacy, so I wonder sometimes

1724
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 6: you do you feel the pressure like obviously the siblings

1725
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,799
Speaker 6: we know the family business, but do you feel pressure

1726
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 6: to continue the legacy.

1727
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 5: Or you more on that lane where you know what

1728
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 5: that is a legacy? I need to create my own

1729
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 5: step in this world? Is the pressure?

1730
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 16: There By default, I'm contributing to the legacy, you know,

1731
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 16: And I feel like that speaks volumes in itself. You know,

1732
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 16: I'm not running away from the legacy, so therefore it's

1733
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 16: only adding to it. And I feel like the extension

1734
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 16: of my brother and my sisters, even you know, they

1735
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 16: gonna go into a whole different industry that we ain't

1736
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 16: never seen.

1737
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 15: But it's not gonna be a separate legacy.

1738
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 16: That's gonna be an extension that's gonna just continue the

1739
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 16: legacy overall. So I think that's a beautiful thing about

1740
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 16: the family, Like you said, the unity and all and

1741
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 16: how we really pushing the culture and putting that first,

1742
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 16: you know what.

1743
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 7: About I'm saying what Snoop doing with his son and

1744
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 7: everything in a Web three space and the NFTs and everything.

1745
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 7: Do y'all have any projects y'all working on? You understand me?

1746
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 7: In that space to push things for it.

1747
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 16: We definitely been having all types of zooms, the log

1748
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 16: the knowledge behind it all, you know, especially with my Pops.

1749
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 15: You know, he really wants to know it, you know.

1750
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 16: So it's a constant learning experience, I think for him

1751
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 16: and all of us because he comes up with questions

1752
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 16: sometimes might stump us and we got to go back

1753
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 16: and you know, uh find two three different you know,

1754
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 16: variations of the answer, so he can really understand it.

1755
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:46,799
Speaker 15: So it's just not one sided.

1756
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 16: And I respect him because he's made me like step

1757
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 16: my game up and then learned about the space too,

1758
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 16: because you know, it's very very very interesting. But until

1759
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 16: you can really grasp it, you know, that's when he

1760
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 16: really wants to then step foot in. We're definitely definitely

1761
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 16: he dodn'et cop the couple, you know, he cop the ab,

1762
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 16: he doesn't cop the punk, you know.

1763
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 15: So he's he's slow but sure in the space.

1764
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 8: And you know, we all are, like I.

1765
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:11,799
Speaker 15: Said, about to become active.

1766
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, before.

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01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 2: Before we rap, I just want to ask you, what's

1768
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 2: your plans going forward? What's on your five year ten

1769
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 2: year vision board.

1770
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 16: Well, you know, with the space of TV, film and music,

1771
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 16: I feel like that's the timeless industry that I want

1772
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 16: to just explore from a to Z.

1773
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 15: I haven't even activated anything.

1774
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 16: In my artistry shows, uh, touring, you know, so that's

1775
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 16: on the lighter end of things. But I want to

1776
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,839
Speaker 16: travel more, you know, and really you know, step outside

1777
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 16: the box of you know, what I've done. I feel

1778
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 16: like the pandemic taught me a lot and there's a

1779
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 16: lot to be done, and it was a learning experience,

1780
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 16: you know, for me and a lot of people. But

1781
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 16: I think this next five is probably going to be

1782
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,560
Speaker 16: the most exciting five years of my life, you know,

1783
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 16: especially you know, I'm thirty third level, you know, so

1784
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 16: it's almost like a real reset. So that road to

1785
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 16: thirty five is about to be a crazy one, Yo, it's.

1786
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 5: The coaches biggest night. Who you most excited to see?

1787
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 16: Man, I'm excited to see it because my pops has

1788
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,839
Speaker 16: not let us come to rehearsals, and so I'm excited

1789
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 16: to see what.

1790
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 15: My pops, you know, cause he's in on some he's

1791
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 15: not in on some, so but we ain't in on none.

1792
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 7: So I mean that last question because your pops is interesting.

1793
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 7: He stays connected to what's going on. And I think

1794
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 7: I seen him one time it was somebody that was popping.

1795
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 7: It was like, well, I don't know about them, you understand, Mean,

1796
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 7: what's that process like of making sure, like do y'all

1797
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 7: bring people to him? His attention to make sure, Like, Yo,

1798
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 7: you got to stay interconnected so you don't lose grip

1799
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 7: of this.

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01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 15: Absolutely. I like to say I bought him Drake before

1801
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 15: Drake dawayne Uh, he.

1802
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:02,560
Speaker 8: Didn't get it.

1803
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 16: But beyond that, it's it's all about timing, you know,

1804
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 16: because sometimes he could be having a great day and

1805
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,560
Speaker 16: you show him something and he like it, and it

1806
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 16: could be a bad day. You show him something great

1807
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 16: and he just not being the move for it. But

1808
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 16: it'd be something just as great as you need to hear.

1809
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 15: So I think we're just.

1810
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 16: Consistent on what we're passionate about, you know, putting in

1811
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 16: front of him. We know we ain't about to bring

1812
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 16: him no bs, or he knows we ain't about to

1813
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 16: bring him no bs, so he tries to take that

1814
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 16: into consideration first, like the saint, like listen to my mixtake.

1815
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 15: Listen to my mixtape. It ain't one of those.

1816
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 16: It's like, look, it's a reason I'm bringing this to you, pops.

1817
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 16: And I feel like he respects that. So we always

1818
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 16: on him, you know what I mean? He on us too,

1819
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 16: you know what I mean. He be putting us on

1820
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 16: like yo, you know this person, and we'd be like, wow,

1821
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 16: he beat us, he found him first.

1822
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, now that's what's up.

1823
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 7: I work with my pops, like we'll do video content

1824
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 7: together and if people love it, and just that demonstration

1825
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 7: of like a son being able to work with they father,

1826
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 7: it's like legacy in the present, you understand me, not

1827
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 7: like let's remember what happened. But I think that's probably

1828
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 7: one of the most powerful demonstrations y'all have as a family.

1829
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 15: I appreciate that.

1830
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 16: We gonn promise to continue to keep that going most definitely,

1831
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 16: that's what it's about.

1832
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Thank you for the time we met a

1833
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 2: few times in passing, and one thing I'll say, your

1834
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 2: humility is definitely infectious. You just kind of get a

1835
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 2: vibe for a person. That's every time that I met you.

1836
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 2: You've just been super humble, super down the earl, super relatable,

1837
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 2: and that's something that you know we appreciate.

1838
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 15: So I appreciate y'all. I'm sure we don't have many

1839
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 15: more running.

1840
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 2: Too, so again, respect y'all. Taraji p Henson, thank you

1841
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 2: for joining us. I appreciate you for having me so

1842
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 2: icon it in the game, A true legend. How have

1843
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 2: you been able to navigate Hollywood and state relevant for

1844
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,879
Speaker 2: almost for twenty years now, a little.

1845
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 11: Over twenty years.

1846
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 3: I haven't gotten rid of my real ones. I still

1847
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 3: have them.

1848
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 10: I have an incredible family that keeps me grounded, and

1849
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 10: I just understand what this is about, Like this artist

1850
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 10: bigger than me. It has like God gave this gift

1851
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 10: to me to share with the world and change and

1852
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 10: touch lives and that's what it's about. So for me,

1853
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 10: it's not really about the vanity. I mean, I like

1854
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 10: to be cute and stuff like that because I'm a

1855
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 10: girly girl. But at the end of the day, I

1856
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 10: understand my purpose and I know why I'm doing what

1857
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 10: I do.

1858
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 6: Let's talk about why we're all here BT Awards to

1859
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 6: celebrate us, to celebrate us, and they got the right

1860
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 6: person host, I think, so, yeah, So this is not

1861
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 6: your first time hosting in a debt, what can we

1862
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 6: expect from from the.

1863
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 5: Show this weekend?

1864
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 10: I think y'all gonna love this year's thing. So last

1865
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 10: year we focused on the queens, but you know, we

1866
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 10: ain't nothing with our y'all. So this this, yeah, because

1867
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 10: I know thise like a lot of times we like

1868
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 10: to make little jokes and stuff about the men, and

1869
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 10: I'm like, we can't do that. You know, they get

1870
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 10: beat up on enough in the world, right, So what

1871
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 10: we gonna do here is celebrate y'all. We celebrate you,

1872
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 10: lifting you up those that came before, those are here now,

1873
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 10: and just making aby sending you away with some hope

1874
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 10: cause this world.

1875
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 11: Looking for another country to move.

1876
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 8: I feel like that's perfect because I feel like that's

1877
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 8: the balance.

1878
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,560
Speaker 7: Like I was talking with b about this earlier, so

1879
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 7: young black women put me on call soft life for

1880
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 7: women representing themselves softer instead of the images of women

1881
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 7: having to be hard and.

1882
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 8: Tough, and it's like, no, you deserve to just laugh

1883
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 8: and being your joy.

1884
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 7: And I feel like by lifting up men, they stand

1885
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 7: in that position so that women can be soft as

1886
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,600
Speaker 7: they want to. You understand me what you feel about that,

1887
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 7: cause I feel like that goes into what you do

1888
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 7: with mental health.

1889
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 10: Well, you know, we are all carrying generational trauma that

1890
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 10: has been passed down to us that we don't we're

1891
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 10: not even aware of, and until we get the help

1892
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 10: and the healing that we need, we will be operating

1893
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 10: dysfunctionally until we pinpoint our past traumas and a lot

1894
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 10: of that stuff we don't even understand, cause it's just

1895
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 10: like I said, it's been handed down. Like I wondered

1896
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 10: one day, I'm really claustrophobic. I don't like being in

1897
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:57,839
Speaker 10: tight spaces.

1898
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 5: This is before COVID.

1899
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 3: Now I really don't like I'm crazy, and I'm like,

1900
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:05,520
Speaker 3: I get you out here, but I'm very clusophobic.

1901
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 10: And I remember I had to play a sledg runaway slave.

1902
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 10: You ain't a star unless you played one. But I

1903
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 10: remember they had to put me in this little compartment

1904
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 10: under a wagon, a horse wagon, and I just remember

1905
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 10: my body from Bulson. That's nothing that I that's not

1906
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 10: speaking on anything that I've experienced in my lifetime. That

1907
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 10: was clearly generational trauma from slavery. Cause what space have

1908
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 10: I been in to provoke that kind of feeling, you know?

1909
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 10: So my point is is that in things like the

1910
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 10: things that black people have, and this is what makes

1911
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,639
Speaker 10: us so beautiful because you can oppress us. You can

1912
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 10: kill our sons, you can do take our children from us,

1913
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,759
Speaker 10: take our husbands from us. Guess who We're gonna always

1914
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 10: tap into joy? We gonna find it. And that's that's

1915
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 10: who we are.

1916
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 3: And I love that about us.

1917
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 10: And it's unfortunate that we are oppressed, but that's the

1918
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 10: reason why we are because nobody can tap into this

1919
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 10: joy like we. It's in us. No matter what you

1920
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 10: try to do to us, we gonna make you feel better.

1921
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 10: That's a gift that we have, you know, And I

1922
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 10: think the enemy is mad.

1923
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. We have the VT awards,

1924
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 2: we can you're hosting. How is it How important is

1925
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 2: it for us to support DT Awards, Black Awards as

1926
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 2: opposed to BOYCOTTI and complaining about other awards and always

1927
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: saying that we're left out, we're not recognized, Like instead

1928
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 2: of focusing that energy, they're how important is it to

1929
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 2: focus our energy here?

1930
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 10: It's very important to focus our energy on us because

1931
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 10: we alway have but at the end of the day,

1932
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 10: we always need. Like that's why I did my deal

1933
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 10: with b Et. I'm sick of begging and can you

1934
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 10: please this story they need? When I brought my first story,

1935
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 10: Queenie the Godmother of Harlem, that nobody knows about but

1936
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 10: you know about Frank Gaston, you know I'm not Frank Lucas,

1937
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 10: and you know about Bumpy Johnson, but you don't know

1938
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 10: they came from her and she didn't even sell drugs.

1939
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 10: So when I took this story to be Et, I

1940
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 10: shopped it all over town. Nobody wanted it, and I'm like,

1941
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 10: that's because they don't really want our stories. You know,

1942
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 10: they really don't if the money's not they don't see numbers,

1943
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 10: they don't see how it can make them a profit.

1944
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 11: They don't care.

1945
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 10: And for me, I don't really care about the number

1946
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 10: or the money. I care about the story because some

1947
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 10: little black girls, some little brown boy needs to see themselves,

1948
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 10: you know, and needs to know this story. We need

1949
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 10: to know our history. They already taking it out of school.

1950
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 10: So that's why I signed with BT, because I'm sick

1951
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 10: and tired of begging and we don't need to beg

1952
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 10: Look at where we are, we have all about.

1953
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:37,759
Speaker 11: Why are we still begging?

1954
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 10: And worried about what the Grammys and the Oscars and

1955
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 10: all of them do.

1956
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 3: They never wanted a thing.

1957
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 5: Anyway, except I mean, that's it. That's the freedom we're

1958
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 5: talking about.

1959
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 6: So at this point now, is that more of the

1960
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 6: focus writing stories that are authentic to us as opposed

1961
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 6: to acting in stories that you know, wy.

1962
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 10: You do what you gotta do to get where you

1963
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 10: need to be, and then you start making your own choice.

1964
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 10: You stop being a ball us and so that's you know.

1965
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 10: I'm at the position now where I create my own

1966
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 10: doors to open, I create my own scripts, I create.

1967
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 11: Jobs for other people.

1968
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 10: So I hope that's what everybody's paying attention.

1969
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 5: They're gonna watch you do it. I hope it becomes

1970
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:15,719
Speaker 5: the inspiration.

1971
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope.

1972
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 2: So the last one was yours.

1973
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 7: It wasn't a question just wanting to give your flowers

1974
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 7: because I love what you're doing and everything you show

1975
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 7: your exercise, you show your mental health journey, you show

1976
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 7: your joy, you show the ups and downs of the pain.

1977
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 8: I think you showcased like a real person. Understand me.

1978
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 8: It's not one side, and I think that people need

1979
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 8: to see that. Understand me and so not.

1980
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 7: Like that's why I'm saying, it's not a strong black

1981
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 7: woman's a soft black woman.

1982
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 8: Understand me. And then that softness is your power. So

1983
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 8: I appreciate you, thank you.

1984
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 10: And I'm not afraid to be vulnerable because that's where

1985
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 10: the strength is.

1986
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 5: Being strong. I said, No, what I'm is when I'm really.

1987
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,879
Speaker 10: Being strong because you're not afraid to identify.

1988
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 8: And that needs you to write me in a movie.

1989
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:03,680
Speaker 5: I care.

1990
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 8: I ain't never been in a movie. You feel me,

1991
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 8: ain't never seen that la I got to too much shot.

1992
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