1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: What's up. It's way up with Angela Yee and it 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: is a Wealth Wednesday and I'm here with my Wealth 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Wednesday partner, Stacy Tisdale. Happy, way up. We're going to 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: take you super high today. Yeah, I mean this is 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: way yup. And Drand is here. This is the definition 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: of way up. And we have Julia Heart with us. Hi. Everyone, 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm so glad to be here. We're excited to have you. 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Thank you. We're excited to have you. Julie and I 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: have been friends and I'm just watching what she's been 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: going through and just always come out of it creating 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: a new, something new from somebody else. I know, well, 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: thank you re building things. But we're really excited to 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: have you here. Thank you. And I you know, I'm 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: so grateful for our friendship. Honestly, like I knew we 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: would be friends, like that's secondly met you know. Well, 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: I love it, you know. And we've been watching you 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: on My Unorthodox Life two seasons so far their season 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: confirmed I'm not alone too, legally saying so yes, okay, no, no, 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: my god, I'm gonna break break. No comments, zero comments. 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: I actually started watching My Unorthodox Life before I met you, 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: and I had no idea how you showed how restrictive. 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that is, and so many people I know 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: living in New York don't understand that that lifestyle, particularly 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: what it is for women. Yeah. So how did you 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: get from there to all of the career amazing things 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: that you've done and to ultimately being an advocate for 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: women entrepreneurs. How did that what happened to you affect that? Well? 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think the reality is that 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: we really don't know what we're capable of, especially as women. 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: I think we've been told so frequently every day of 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: our lives that we're not capable, that we shouldn't push, 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: that we shouldn't demand, that we shouldn't want equality. That 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: when I left my community, you know, I left at 34 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: forty two, I don't know a single person in the 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: outside world. And it was the outside world. There was 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: my world and the outside world. And I still think 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: about them that way, because my world was in the 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds, the outside world was in the twenty first century. 39 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: I'd never been on a date, I'd never been to 40 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: a bar. I didn't know what a I didn't know that, 41 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know that there was such a 42 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: thing as getting roofy, Like I knew literally zero you 43 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: could wear pants, right, I wasn't allowed to wear pants. 44 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to educate myself. I lived in a 45 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: very ultra religious Jewish community, and I know that. You know, 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: recently there's been a lot of talk about laws in Iran. 47 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: You know that women can't be educated, and that they 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: can't sing in public, they can't dance in public, they 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: need permission to get married, they don't live alone. That 50 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: was my world. When I see these laws there, I'm like, 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: that's months in New York. The only difference is nobody 52 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: beats us or kills us, or poisons us or throws 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: us in jail. But those are the only people, you know. 54 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: The conformity, I mean, they punish you through your children, 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: because if you don't conform, your children won't get proper 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: matches or marriages, and therefore their lives will be miserable, 57 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: and so you're forced to conform. If you love your children, 58 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: what was the turning point for you? Because we watch 59 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: on the show, right, and we see even your oldest 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: daughter and your youngest son, they're still very much like connected. 61 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: I think more than you, you know, to that upbringing. 62 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: So interestingly enough, but Cheva today is a bacon eating 63 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: krevel about her daughter. Really, my daughter is full on 64 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: twenty first century. Okay. She does not allow anyone to 65 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: limit her or to make her feel that they have 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: control over what she puts on her body or what 67 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: she puts in her mouth, or who she loves or 68 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: how she loves or when she loves. And that's an 69 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: interesting transformation to see, because it is hard when you've 70 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: been raised a certain way to feel like this is 71 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: not the right thing. Oh, it's it's you don't have 72 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: to understand. Most people who leave my community commit suicide 73 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: or go on drugs because we were not equipped to 74 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: handle the twenty first century. The reality is I lived 75 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: in the eighteen hundreds. Whenever people say explain your world 76 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: to me, I say, think Bridgerton, minus the fancy balls 77 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: and the gorgeous stresses. But where women were married off, 78 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: they were uneducated, they were told that their minds were 79 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: inferior to men. They were not allowed to live alone, 80 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: and if they were impure or misbehaved in any way, 81 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: end of story, everything dependent on the match. That was 82 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: the only thing a woman could, you know, hope to 83 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: achieve is a really good match. And that's the world 84 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: I grew up in. And I actually want to show 85 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: you something really funny. You know. When I first started 86 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: talking about it and saying like, hey, this is what's 87 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: going on in my world, I was told I'm exaggerating 88 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: and that the education in my community is amazing and 89 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: all of the above. Someone sent me a letter from 90 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. So this is God. I'm going to age 91 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: myself now by I graduated in nineteen eighty nine. We're 92 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: talking over thirty years ago. And can I read an 93 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: excerpt from it? Because it tells you everything you need 94 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: to know. So as follows, dear parents, in the last year, 95 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: it's becoming increasingly prevalent for high school girls to be 96 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: preparing themselves and working towards a college degree. This is 97 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: not the reason Klausol has established base act of schools 98 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: from No Sister all meaning the Jewish people established these 99 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: base act of the school that I went to, not 100 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: in order to actually educate their daughters. The reason was 101 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: a direct connection to Torah. It was to become the 102 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: sole source of their learning and connection connection to life, 103 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: to have them connected to any college in any form 104 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: which is an independent source or should we say, an 105 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: outside source during those years that were set aside for 106 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: them to draw life from Torah from the Bible is 107 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: not to their benefit, is detrimental and love this next 108 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: word antithetical to base Yakov schooling. And it goes on 109 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: and it says the fact that the college courses, maybe Homa, 110 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: these are not colleges like you're thinking. These are not 111 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: Stanford and Columbia as they're talking about. These are colleges 112 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: and universities that are still fully religious, still completely separate. 113 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: Men and women don't learn together. They're still learning the 114 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: same subjects, but since they're technically colleges, they're forbidden. So 115 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: and then it says, for all purposes, once your daughter 116 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: has connected herself to college, she has disconnected herself from 117 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: her total learning, which is her only source in life. 118 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: If your daughter is presently preparing for or taking any 119 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: college courses, please make an appointment to discuss this with us. 120 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: And then at the very end, I don't know if 121 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: you can see it. Here, you have two little things 122 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: where you check. Check one is my daughter is not 123 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: taking any college courses? Check two, is my daughter is 124 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: taking college courses or preparatory tests. I would like to 125 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: set up unappointments. Oh my goodness, great, looka good carriage 126 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: to leave that life my daughter Miriam. That's that's the 127 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: reason I'm alive today is because of my daughter, Mirriam. 128 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: So what does she what happened? My daughter Miriam was 129 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: a tiny, tiny little rebel, literally from the day she 130 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: was born. You have to understand, I grew up in 131 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: a world where women are covered head to toe from 132 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: about by the time they're three years old, and my 133 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: daughter was a born nudist. I could not keep clothing 134 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: on this girl's lobby for love or money. My son's 135 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: friends would come over and she'd be walking around in 136 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: a little four year old body without any clothes. There 137 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: was something I could do. I would clothes on, she 138 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: would take some off. That was it, and that was 139 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: she just always walked by her own path. And then, um, 140 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: she was in second grade and you know, you go 141 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: into PTA's right, and they had on the wall like 142 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: all these little they had. The assignment was if you 143 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: could walk in someone's shoes, whose shoes would you walk in? 144 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: And then you know, as parents would come in and 145 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: we look at the little wall all with everybody, and 146 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: everyone basically wrote the same thing. My saint and grandmother 147 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: who had seventeen children and never cried, my sainted mother 148 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: who had twenty four children. And you know, I mean, 149 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: I have friends who had sixteen children, and friends who 150 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: have twelve children. We counted recently, unless there's a new 151 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: one that I don't know about. I have forty nine 152 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: nieces and nephews, my goodness, and you have four children. 153 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: I was pregnant ten times. I was pregnant ten times. 154 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: I could actually have had ten children. I just miscarried 155 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: six times. I'd go to the hospital and I'd miscarry, 156 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: And you know, usually miscarriage is a very painful, traumatic difficulty. 157 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: For me, it was relief because I didn't want to 158 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: have ten children, right, I didn't want to be pregnan 159 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: every five minute. But you went from that life to leaving, 160 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: largely inspired by your daughter. So, Miriam, So anyway on 161 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: this wall, I'm gonna go real fast, Miriam. So everyone 162 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: else was like my saint and grandmother and my saint. 163 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: My little daughter says, why would I want to walk 164 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: in anyone else's shoes? My fathers are too big, my 165 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: mothers are too high. I think I'll go through life 166 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: walking in my own And then when she got a 167 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: little older, when I was in my mid thirties, she 168 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: wanted to play soccer. She's very sporty. She's won Spartan 169 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: race twice for women, not just her age group, but 170 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: all women in San Francisco. She plays basketball and just 171 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: you know, she swims and rides and all this stuff. 172 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: She wanted to play soccer, and my husband told her, 173 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: you can't. Now we're talking about a I don't remember 174 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: if she was five or seven, a child, and he said, 175 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: you can't because you're wearing a skirt, and because you 176 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: can't wear pants. Right, you're wearing a skirt, and if 177 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: your knees show while you're playing, a man walking by 178 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: the field may see your knees and get turned on, 179 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna it's gonna be your fault because 180 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: of men. You're responsible for men's actions. And so that's 181 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: why you can't play soccer. Now, let's not talk about 182 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: the fact what kind of man gets turned on by 183 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: a five year old knees or an eight year old's 184 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: knees or an eleven year olds knees. Yea is yeah, 185 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: And my little daughter and she was under hen she 186 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: looks at my father, her husband, my husband, her father 187 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: and says, oh, well, is he responsible for my sense? Now? 188 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, what she said, I'm gonna do 189 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: that because she gave me permission to question, because until then, 190 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: my whole life, I felt this dichotomy between who I 191 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: was and who I was told I had to be. 192 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: But everyone around me was happy, everyone around me follow 193 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: those rules. So to me, it was like, what's wrong 194 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: with me? That I'm not okay with being silent and 195 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: subservient and being told that I can't. Not only wasn't 196 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: I allowed to read secular literature, I wasn't even allowed 197 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: to read religious literature because my mind was too light. 198 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: Women were not capable of understanding and comprehending deep esoteric subjects. 199 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: In the Talmud, which is where most of the laws 200 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: that govern our lives exists, says that a man who 201 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: educates his daughter is teaching her prostitution. Oh my goodness, 202 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: how do you get from that too? Yea, and all 203 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: the self esteem and all this stuff that came with 204 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: it till you left that you started your own shoe line. 205 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: Because I figured if I can time travel, I can 206 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: pretty much do anything. That's what it was. It was 207 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: when I left, it was such an insane thing. Nobody leaves. 208 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: People don't leave, especially women because generally when you leave, 209 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: your children's day and you have no relationship with them. 210 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: And I wasn't leaving without my kids. I just wasn't 211 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: going to happen. So people just don't leave. And so 212 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: if it was like going from this world to Mars, right, like, 213 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: imagine if someone said to you it you're at this 214 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: age whatever you guys all look like you're twenty, but 215 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: whatever age it is. Imagine if someone said, okay, pack 216 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: your ship. Excuse my language from Les, say that on 217 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: this pack your ship. You're going on a spaceship to 218 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: Mars and you're going to have to figure it out 219 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: by yourself. By yourself. You're the only person on this spaceship. 220 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: That's what it feels like. This is a unique situation 221 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: because your ex husband, he does still like you, still 222 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: are able to go back and see your youngest son. 223 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: And my husband left the community. He's no longer a 224 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: black hatter, he's still religious, he still keeps, you know, 225 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: coach from jobs. But he married a woman who does 226 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: not cover her hair, who has a college degree tsion 227 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: and I love her. I think she's amazing. So I 228 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: managed to even get my husband, my ex husband, out 229 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: of that world. And you know, when we first got engaged, 230 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: he proposed to me in a parking lot and his 231 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: proposal after I think we've been we'd known each other 232 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: for like nine hours, ten hours, and he said, um, 233 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: will you be my acious Kyle, which means will you 234 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: be my women of valor? And a woman of valor 235 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: someone who plows and cleans and does all the things 236 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: so her husband can be great. Right, we're the stepping 237 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: stone for us someone else's greatness. His second proposal was 238 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico with his girlfriend wog Difference, and they 239 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: called me from Puerto Rico and said, Julia, thank you. Julia. 240 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this when that happened when you 241 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: first got proposed to were you horrified, like what was it? 242 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: Or were you like, this is what I'm supposed to do? 243 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: So thank goodness has happened for me. I went on 244 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: a hunger strike. Didn't work, but I tried because I'd 245 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: already said no to two guys, which is like, you know, 246 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: it's not a good thing. And so my mother literally 247 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: said if he's not an axe murderer, you're marrying. Why 248 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: did you say no to the first two guys? Well, 249 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: the first guy said no to um, Well because I 250 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: found him terribly unattractive, to be honest, and he was 251 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: like an absent minded professor. He drove it exactly thirty 252 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: miles and I've never seen anything like it. You just 253 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: you just annoyed me. After the one day and the 254 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: second one. This is really embarrassing. Um. The second one 255 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: was because I didn't think he was religious enough. I 256 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: wanted to you can you imagine that ridiculous? I was 257 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: what nixed it is that he told me he went 258 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: to baseball games, and I was like, what, you're horrid? 259 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: Fight what he's up? I mean, what kind of person 260 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: wastes time on baseball when he should be learning Torah? 261 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: I need to sacrifice my life for Torah. That's literally 262 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: how I was taught. Okay, So that wasn't Oh yeah, 263 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: I was telling your daughter changed everything? Oh yeah, I 264 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: mean this is I was. She was my inner voice 265 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: because I wanted so bad. You have to understand most 266 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: people want to be good. We don't wake up in 267 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: the morning and think, here, how can I do evil? Today, right, 268 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: we want to be good. We want God to love us. 269 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to be loved by God. I wanted to 270 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: do what I thought he told me to do. I 271 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: just couldn't keep it up because it was so antithetical 272 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: to who I am as a human being. That took 273 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: so much. I'm trying to get that is how did 274 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: you educate yourself to become a businesswoman? I read. I 275 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: became a voracious reader. I read everything from Euripides to Voltaire, 276 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: to Spinoza to Descartes, you name it, I've read it. 277 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: I have two kids, one who graduated just graduated Columbia. 278 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm Miriam graduated at Stanford University. And I would have 279 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: them send me their reading lists every quarter. They have 280 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: still not sent me a book I hadn't ready. Way, 281 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: that's a way. That's how I have for you about business, 282 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: business history, marketing, fashion, everything I could get my hands on. 283 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: The two were always into fashion, and the first thing 284 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: you did was start the Julian bar shoes. I mean, 285 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: I've been drawing my first love of fashion when I 286 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: was three years old. Because you knew I was sold. 287 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: I was traded for grain. My family and I were 288 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: traded for gray. When came out of Russia. America got 289 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: my parents and me Russia got grain because there was 290 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: a grain embargo at the time, and I was They 291 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: took us to several internment camps before we got here. 292 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: So I spent a bunch of months in Vienna, Austrian 293 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: then a bunch of months in the Vatican. And there 294 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: this little boy he was like five to my three, 295 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: um and he used to do all these all chores, 296 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: and he took all that money and he bought me 297 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: my first Italian handbag. Oh my goodness, and that was it. 298 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: I fell in love with fashion, no turning back. And 299 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: then I started drawing and designing. I couldn't help myself, 300 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: like I just I thought, fashion is the personal expression 301 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: of who we are today. To me, it's it's freedom. 302 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: I watch your show really to see what you have 303 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: on too, and that's just you, but like your whole family, 304 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: to see to see the bags, to see you know 305 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: that everybody on the show is has got that sense 306 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: of fashion. We love it because it's self expression. You 307 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: have to understand. I grew up in the world where 308 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't supposed to wear colors. I got called into 309 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: the Rabbi's office all the time because I was too 310 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: noticeable because I was wearing pink and yellow and red. 311 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: And he would say to me, Julia, you're too noticeable. 312 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: Stop with the colors. And I would say, the day 313 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: that God's world is all gray and black, you can 314 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: convince me that the load doesn't like colors. I look 315 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: out my windows and that's why God made color. I'm 316 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: putting it on my body. Do you feel like people 317 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: and I noticed this right, you've you're an entrepreneur and 318 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: you've really built yourself up. Like you said, you moved 319 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: out when you're in your forties and you had a 320 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: lot to learn. But I feel like people try to 321 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: downplay it, like there's no way she was able to 322 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: do that. It's not possible to build this hundreds of 323 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: millions of dollars empire without something else happening. Yes, And 324 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: they also try to act like it's not you that 325 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: did it with your own grid. How does that make 326 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: you fail? And do you think that's because you're a woman. 327 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: I think one thousand percent is because I'm a woman. 328 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: When Season one came out, I was accused of marrying 329 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 1: my husband for his money, and even though when I 330 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: married him, he had lost all his money. All he 331 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: had left was Eugene a few million dollars. I kept 332 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: my mouth shut because I loved him, and I allowed 333 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: myself to be accused of marrying someone for their money 334 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: to get a leg up because out of pure love. 335 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: But you know, my first brand, which was Julia Hart Shoes, 336 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: I have texts from there because I did get propositioned 337 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: by people who invested in my company, and I told them, 338 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: this company is about freedom and if I have to 339 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: sleep with someone or fake an emotion to have it, 340 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: then there's no point in it. I have never once 341 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: ever done anything that wasn't authentic and true to who 342 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: I am. And I think the reason I constantly get 343 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: accused of this is because what I did is unusual 344 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: and it is very fast and it is hard to believe. 345 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: And I think that there are many people in the 346 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: world who they hear my story and one of two 347 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: things happen. Most people hear my story and start their 348 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: own careers, or leave difficult spouses, or leave communities that 349 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: have held them down. I've had women from all over 350 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: the world, from Ethiopia and Rwanda and New Zealand. I mean, 351 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: you name it. Women who have told me that they 352 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: chose not to commit suicide after they watched my show. 353 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: We've started their businesses. I was at a fashion event 354 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: once and this woman came over to me and she 355 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: bursts out crying, bursts out crying, and she's like, you 356 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: don't know what you did for me. And she pulls 357 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: down her dress and there are cigarette butts, cigarette burns 358 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: over her entire back. And she said, the day I 359 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: finished watching your show, I picked up my stuff and 360 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: I walked out the door. So I've had women from 361 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: all over the world send me messages of what I've 362 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: done helped them. Then there are people who look at 363 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: what I've done and they feel like, well, I should 364 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: have done more, and they feel guilty and they feel like, well, 365 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: if she did this, what excuse do I have? And 366 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: so they don't want me to succeed because my success 367 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: kind of says you can, and that's difficult for people 368 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: to hear. But your record speaks for itself. When you 369 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: got to a lead world group, it was one thing. 370 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean, when I changed it into something completely completely 371 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: that's completely about empowering women, tell us that journey. So 372 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: you know, when I took over EWG. It was. It 373 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: was a modeling agency, the number one modeling agency. It 374 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: was an amazing modeling agency. But you know, my husband 375 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: had tried and to sell it because again he had 376 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: lost his money and he couldn't even get seventy million 377 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: dollars for it. When I took it over, I realized 378 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: that it shouldn't be a modeling agency at all. To me, 379 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: think about it, who what is media? I heart media? 380 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: What's media? Media is whoever has the audience? That's media. 381 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: So it's not the Vogue magazines anymore or the television 382 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: shows or the billboards. Who is the media? Now? People 383 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: like you and talent. Talent is the media nowadays. When 384 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: someone wants to see what Kendall Jenner is wearing, they 385 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: don't go on Vogue. They go on her Instagram page. 386 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: And when you think about that, then they're the new media. 387 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: Now what does that do? It does three things. It 388 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: completely shifts the power dynamic because it used to be 389 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: that they would stand in line and they could only 390 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: be famous if a creative director like them, if a 391 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: casting agent or a you know, a magazine editor. They 392 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: had to beg and stand and say please choose me. 393 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: There's just that's it. You're too fag, you're tall, you're 394 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: too thin, you're too this year too that. Nowadays, it's 395 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 1: the creative directors and the magazine editors chasing them because 396 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: they're the ones with the audience. So once I reckon, 397 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, we can actually put the power in the 398 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: hands of our talent if we treat them like brands 399 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: and networks. And so I brought in house everything that 400 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: you could possibly need for that, so that we started 401 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: to create and curate their content. And then we realized, 402 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: oh wow, we're sitting on billions of people's data. We 403 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: can actually choose the person. I wanted to make advertising honest. 404 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: So the people who advertise things in my company are 405 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: people who actually use the product believe in the product. 406 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: Because we were able to see from who they were 407 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: and what they did, what product would be commensurate with 408 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: what person. And that created a massive longevity in their 409 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: career because when they were finished the runway or the 410 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: tennis court or the football stadium or whatever it was, 411 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: they were brands. They could create product so they could 412 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: still be making money in their fifties and seventies. And 413 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: then the next thing that I did. First thing was longevity. 414 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: Then the next thing I did was eternity because in 415 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen I also started at a Verse and Avatars. 416 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: People thought I was crazy. We went we were going 417 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: through a public process. This is way, this is two 418 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: and a half years, two years before Meta and I 419 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: started building the most hyper realistic avatars in the world. 420 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: Ours are unbelievable. You could literally see the pores on 421 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: their face. Anything to do with this too, not yet, 422 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: not yet, not yet, but you know, we hired people 423 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: from all over the world, from as far as Thailand 424 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: to Egypt. I had a group of Egyptians who were brilliant, 425 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: brilliant avatars creators, and we developed this system to create 426 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: avatars that walk, talk, move, jump, laugh, sound like the 427 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: person they represent, And I mean so hyper realistic. If 428 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: you look at like decentral Land or any of those things, 429 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: they look like lego characters. Mine look like humans. The 430 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: products look like the products. You could almost feel the 431 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: leather or the soft silk. And so we started. We 432 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: started creating avatars of our talent because think about this, 433 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: they could be sleeping in and their avatars could be 434 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: walking seventeen runways simultaneously in seventy different countries when they're seventy. 435 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: I need one for the Seriously, everyone's gonna get no joke. 436 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm working on a plan right now with heart Sphere, 437 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: but you know, I need to wait until the divorce 438 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: is finalized. But I'm working on this plant. We're basically, 439 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: we've brought down the cost of making avatars so low 440 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: that it'll be something that every person owns because you 441 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: can talk to your avatar and your avatar starts talking 442 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: like you and thinking like you, avatar goes out and cheats. 443 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: Does that you control it? Honey? This is all is wild, 444 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: But imagine if you could leave like you know, how 445 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: people write books for their children. Imagine if instead of 446 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: reading a book about I don't know, think Audrey Heppern 447 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: or um, you know, Mother Teresa or one of these people. 448 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: Mother Teresa's avatar could talk to you and tell you 449 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: about her entire life and you would hear it from her. 450 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's eternity, and that's what we're creating. We 451 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: we built a system where you could literally these avatars 452 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: will live forever. And you know, let's just pick a singer. 453 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that we made it of this singer 454 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: I don't would pick one CSCR or anyone any singer. 455 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: Imagine her avatar could be making music two hundred years 456 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: from now. Imagine if she's not only leaving her put 457 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: the songs that she wrote in her lifetime, but her 458 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: avatar will have her ability, her voice, her creativity. Think 459 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: about financially though, of course they do. Yeah, the Avadar family, 460 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: that's generational, generational. And that's like a documentary too, because 461 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: I think about like Teddy Pendergrass. They did a documentary 462 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: about him, but they were able to do a lack 463 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: because he had recorded himself talking. Also, Yeah, and so 464 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: things like that are important to be able to tell 465 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: your own story. That's beyond while you're on this planet. Yea. 466 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: And think about if you spend around six seven months 467 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: with your avatar and you constantly feed it more and 468 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: more and more and more information, the avatar will know 469 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: all your stories. They'll being able to answer questions, Your 470 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: great great great grandchildren will be able to speak to you. 471 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: That's what we're working on now is a great horror movie. 472 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm thinking to something now. I think it's the most 473 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: We're not there yet. Just to be clear, we're not 474 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: there yet, where we are today is that the avatar 475 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: can talk like you, walk like you, move like you. 476 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: But we're going is that they're going to start thinking 477 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: like you. That's where we're going. This is brand new steroid. 478 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: This is yeah, I mean that's my point. My point 479 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: is that whatever work you do, and you know you 480 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: used to like think about it. A model or a 481 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: sports person, how many years do they played football? How 482 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: many years can they walk a runway? What happens after Well, 483 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what happens after They're could be making 484 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: money for the next one hundred years, and their families 485 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: will be making money for the next hundred years. When 486 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: they're seventy, they're twenty five year old, avatars could still 487 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: be walking runways. That's amazing. Talk about something that you 488 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: touched on because a lot of our audience is on entrepreneurs, 489 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: and you really were touching on something amazing about the 490 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: power of social media and the power of understanding the 491 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: new audience. Yes, So here's the thing that I think 492 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: people are not cognizant of completely, and that is social 493 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: media has a lot of problems. Right, I get attacked 494 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: all the time because it's easy attacks someone when you 495 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: don't know them right. There's this anonymity that allows you 496 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: to say the most vicious, horrible things that you would 497 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 1: never say to a person face to pay. Yeah, I've 498 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: been there, you know. Yeah, you can't imagine that. But 499 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: but it has something of insanely tremendous value, and that 500 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: is it's democratized creativity. Also, Okay, think about it. If 501 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: you wanted to be a singer, you'd have to get 502 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: a record label. Now you go on TikTok. You don't 503 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: need to be anyone. You don't need to have anything. 504 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: You could be from I don't know the mountains in Kentucky. 505 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: You have talent. You now have a budget. You don't 506 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: need a budget. You don't need an agent, you don't 507 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: need a team, you don't need connections. You need passion, desire, hunger, ambition, 508 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: and hard work. It is. It has democratized all creativity, 509 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: whether it comes from fashion. So many of the fat, 510 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: new up and coming fashion designers were discovered on social 511 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: media right and for the talent, they're not begging a 512 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: magazine or some dude with a camera to make them famous. 513 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: The power is now in their hands. They talk directly 514 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: to the audience and especially during the pandemic. I think 515 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: we really saw a lot of people being able to 516 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: monetize thanks to that. What was that like for you 517 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: during that time period? So it's really I mean, obviously 518 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: COVID was terrible. I actually had a really really bad 519 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: case of COVID. I didn't do so well. I was 520 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: like an og COVID I got in April twenty twenty. 521 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: Not so fun. But what it enabled us to do 522 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: because I built these divisions Prior to that, most people 523 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: in the industry lost over seventy percent of their business 524 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: during everything was closed, nobody was advertising, and many companies 525 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: basically fired over one hundred people. A lot of talent 526 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: management companies fired one hundred two hundred people. We fired 527 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: maybe three four and we only lost thirty three percent, 528 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: And that was because of all of our digital advancements. 529 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: We did this thing. We did all sorts of really 530 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: fun creative things where talent would pose at home or 531 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: show products at home and do all these things because 532 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: they'd been trained, they knew how to do it. And 533 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 1: so we were doing a lot of digital advertising during COVID, 534 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: and then of course with the avatars. Everything about that. 535 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: If I if I'd gotten to it, faster. Your virtual 536 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: avatar doesn't need to travel on an airplane, it doesn't 537 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: get sick, it doesn't need to be in a hotel room. 538 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: And so I mean, God forbid, I hope we never 539 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: ever have another global pandemic. But if we do, I 540 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: think if we all at that point own avatars, our 541 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: avatars will be able to communicate with one another, we 542 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: won't feel so alone, you know, there'll be that virtual connectivity. 543 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: And I want to talk about self care for a second, 544 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: because for you putting yourself out there having a show, 545 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: but then also having your book and exposing so much 546 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: of your life and not being raised in a way 547 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: where you're on front street like you are, now, how 548 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: do you deal with that? Not? Well, you know, because 549 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: you're public divorce, people are saying things, people are watching 550 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: the show, and people are talking about your whole family. 551 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: So what are some things that you do because I 552 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: know it's not easy for a lot of people. Now, 553 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: some people will tell you, well, when you're a celebrity, 554 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: you sign up for that, but that's not necessarily too. 555 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: You're trying to do your job, do things and you're 556 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: not really wanting to be, you know, out there in 557 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: that way. Right. And you know, I think the part 558 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: that was the most difficult is that, you know, when 559 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: I got to act incused of stealing and lying and 560 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: being a seductress and all this stuff, there was zero proof, 561 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: no documents. It was just one man saying da da 562 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: da da dada. I had hundreds of documents, stacks of proof, 563 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: didn't matter. People as a woman, nobody cared. Yeah, people 564 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: just didn't care. And it almost destroyed me. I'm going 565 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: to be honest, It almost destroyed me because it felt 566 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: like I was back where I started, where men control 567 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: me and their word matters more than mine, and I 568 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: could have all the proof and all the truth and 569 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: it just doesn't matter, and I there's only And it 570 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: was hard. The first six months were really rough, really 571 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: really hard. And I'll tell you the truth, the things 572 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: that got me through were Number one, my family. I 573 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: mean they sat by me. I'm gonna get all emotional, sorry, 574 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: they sat by me, They stood next to me, they 575 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: held me. They literally defended me. I mean I certainly, 576 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: I certainly would not have survived with our thumb. And 577 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: then the second thing I did. The second thing was 578 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: thanks to a Broadway show and a woman named Ellen Gavin. 579 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: You know, Ellen, when Roe versus Way it got repealed, 580 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: is the first time my life I ever became politically active. 581 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: I never did anything with politics. I was like, I'm 582 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: going to make millions of women wealthy. I'm going to 583 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: build my army of financially independent women, and I'll leave 584 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: the politics to the politicians. Except then the politicians took 585 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: away rights of women. And I've been in a world 586 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: where your body isn't your own. I'm not going back there. 587 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: America cannot become muncy. That just cannot happen. So I 588 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: became extremely politically active. And I met this incredible woman, 589 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: Ellen Gavin, who herself as a playwright and a storyteller 590 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: and a massive, massive feminist. And the day that the 591 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: ruling came down from Delaware that I wasn't fifty fifty, 592 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: even though I had literally eighty two documents, forty two documents, 593 00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: fifty fifty tax returns, PPP, loan applications, a statements, bank statements, low, 594 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: everything said fifty fifty. But I was the liar. Go 595 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: forget that one out. When that happened, I want to 596 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: I really wanted to die. I want to die, I 597 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: just like I've been through so much. I fought so hard, 598 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: and here again a man is taking everything away from me. 599 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: And Ellen calls me that day, maybe because it hadn't 600 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: become public yet, and says, hey, I have these two 601 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: tickets to a show called Suft's and I just got COVID. 602 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: I can't go? Do you want to go? And I 603 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: think it was up? Are you crazy? My whole life 604 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: just fell a farm. What do you mean seeing a 605 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: Boadway show? And I sat there and I said, Julia Hart, 606 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: you fucking pick yourself up from the floor, and you 607 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: go to this Boadway show because if you if you despair, 608 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: he wins. Right, if women despair, men win. I'm not 609 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: going to let that happen. So I go to this 610 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: show and it was about the Suffraget movement, and that 611 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: show literally changed my life, which is why I know 612 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: that a story can move mountains and change universes. Because 613 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: it was about the Suffragette movement, and there was this 614 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: scene that they enact where the women were arrested, imprisoned, 615 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: put it literally like a dungeon and force fed through 616 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: tubes because they went on a hunger strike. And I'm 617 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: watching this and thinking to myself, you effing coward. What's 618 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: happened to you? Okay, there's a few newspaper articles Boo 619 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: boo boo. These women went to jail for demanding freedom. 620 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: These women were tortured for demanding freedom if they didn't 621 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: give up the fight. I'm not giving up the fight. 622 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: And since that day have there been hard days, sure, 623 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: But since that day my faith has been so immutable, 624 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: so unshakable. I'm going to win. The truth will come out, 625 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: and I will never give up, and I will never 626 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: stop fighting until every woman's voice has equal validity and 627 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: power to a man. And this has made you fierce. 628 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: Oh honey, I am really furious about making women financially independent. Yes, important, 629 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: because to me, freedom is not having to ask permission, 630 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: and there is no freedom without financial independence. You know, 631 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: when I was in Laparla, when I was creative director 632 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: of Laperla, I would always go into the stores just 633 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: to see how things are selling. And I will tell you, 634 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: and I started collecting this. How many times I would 635 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: go into a store and I would hear a woman saying, 636 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: let me ask my husband if I can buy this? 637 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all the time, and it I wanted to 638 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: go over and hug her and hold her and tell 639 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: her you don't need his permission, go make your own money. 640 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: You can do it. You the minute you have to 641 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: ask permission, you're not free. So to me, the essence, 642 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: the quint essence of freedom is financial freedom, because without 643 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: financial freedom, you have no say, no voice. He who 644 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: holds the wallet makes the rules. What kind of advice 645 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: can you give to women that are in situation is 646 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: where they're not not financially independent right now? What kind 647 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: of baby steps, small steps can they take to sort 648 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: of get rid in the right direction and love that. 649 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: Here's the beauty about work. You don't realize what you're 650 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: capable of until you just get started. So you know 651 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: what I always tell people, I was I I hate zoos. 652 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 1: I really will not go into a zoo because I 653 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: don't like the idea of animals and caged from my 654 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: viewing pleasure. I just think that's that's not freedom. But 655 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: my kids kept nudging and nudging and nudging when they 656 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: were younger, let's go to a zoo. So finally I 657 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: found the San Diego Zoo. Because they're, you know, not 658 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: in enclosed spaces, they kind of recreate their habitat, so 659 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: we go to this animal, this one animal that can 660 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: jump higher than any animal in the animal kingdom. It's 661 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: some African elk. And the tour guide says, Okay, where's 662 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: the gate, where's the fence? How are we keeping these 663 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: animals in? We look around. There's literally nothing, no gate, 664 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: no fence, no wires, nothing. We give up and he 665 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: points to four telephone poles on the corners of the enclosure. 666 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: And on the very top of these very very very 667 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: tall telephone poles is like a half pipe sea. So 668 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: imagine a pipe cut in half, like a long curved sea, 669 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: connecting these four telephone poles. The way that this animal 670 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: jumps is it goes to the edge of something, It 671 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: looks up to calculate the distance, and then it jumps. 672 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: This African elk would go up to the edge of 673 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: the enclosure, look up, see that half pipe and think 674 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: there was a ceiling, and never jumped. They could have 675 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: walked right through. There was no fence, no gate. It 676 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: was here. And that's what I feel about women. The fence, 677 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: the ceiling, so much of it is in our minds. 678 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: We think we can't and so we never try. So 679 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: my advice is, I don't care what you do. Look 680 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: what did I do when I first started. I'd have 681 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: a college degree, and I know anyone from the outside. 682 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: I sold life insurance, so I think I could think 683 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: of selling that you didn't need a degree for. If 684 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: you need to want it so badly that you can't 685 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: breathe without it, you need to want to be free 686 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: so badly that you are willing to work as many 687 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: hours as a take you are willing to take. You know, 688 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: when I first started, people would pat me on the head, 689 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 1: people literally diminished me every day, and I just didn't 690 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: care because in my eyes, I saw that I could accomplish. 691 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: And that's to me, I don't care if you start 692 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: working at a seven and eleven. It doesn't matter what 693 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: you do. Just get up and do something, and then 694 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: figure out, Okay, now that I have X amount, what 695 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: can I do with this amount. Don't spend it on clothing, 696 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: don't spend it on anything invested. Figure out, okay, I'm 697 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: going to invest this to the next step. When you 698 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: get to the next step, figure out, Okay, what do 699 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,959 Speaker 1: I want the next step to be? But I would 700 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: say that the first step in that journey, you've got 701 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: to want it, and you also have always told me 702 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: that one thing that you really advise women and people 703 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: in general about business, spend some time with yourself. Oh yes, 704 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: a lot of us don't do enough of that. When 705 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: we're like when we were even talking about social media 706 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: and digital I can just hear people Okay, oh so 707 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: I should do this, so I should do this chasing 708 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: that's really stop exactly. I mean it's basically what we 709 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: were talking about, which is you have to know what 710 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: you want. That's the first step. If you don't know 711 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: what you want, you're not gonna get it. Yeah, you've 712 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: got to pick something. You have to pick a passion 713 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: and often with talent, especially because I was dealing with 714 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: younger women, the first step was Okay, if I want 715 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: to create your social media into a brand, you've got 716 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: to give me what you love, what matters to you. Right. 717 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: So there's so many people that want to do any 718 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: and everything. Yeah, I can do that. I'll do that, 719 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 1: I'll try this. I saw this work for this person. 720 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: I'll do that. And you have to know what you're 721 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: passionate about and then go really hard at it. Exactly. 722 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: Social media almost ruin that and journalism because everybody's a 723 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: journalist everybody, everybody. You've got to listen to your own voice. 724 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: Like you know, There's this one young woman that I 725 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: was working with and she wanted to build a brand. 726 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: She wanted to eventually sell product, and she said, well, 727 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: what product do I pick? How do I know? And 728 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: I started talking to her and we came out with 729 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: the fact that she's a massive lover of the ocean. 730 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: She's worked with, you know, over a dozen charities to help, 731 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, save whales and dolphins and help clean up water. 732 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, this is your love. Forget about 733 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: the bikini shots, forget about how sexy you look when 734 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: you're bending down. Show people what you love when you 735 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: go to these charity events. Take your audience with you, 736 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: because one day, when you're in your thirties and you're 737 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: no longer walking or runway, you will make a product 738 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: like a sunscreen that doesn't pollute the water and everyone 739 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: will understand why because they know you for that. So 740 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: choose one thing. I always call it your angel. Choose 741 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: your angel. What do you see when you wake up 742 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: in the morning, what do you see when you go 743 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: to sleep at night. Choose your angel and then focus 744 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: on that, and that's your thing. You have to know 745 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: what you want or you're never going to get it. 746 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on marriage now? Because business arrangement, 747 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: but you know you went through it, and we did 748 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: see you going through it. But what are your thoughts now, 749 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: like moving forward? Would you want to get married again? 750 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: And if you did, what would be the boundaries and 751 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: the parameters of that and what type of agreements should 752 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: we have, you know, and getting married? I love that. 753 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: So here's my current philosophy. I'm not saying that I'll 754 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: feel this way I always. I'm just telling you what 755 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: I feel right now. What I feel right now is 756 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: I totally understand marriage when people are younger and they 757 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: want to have a family. I think your kids need 758 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: to know that you're legally supposed to show up, and 759 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: I think the spouses need to know that when the 760 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 1: baby's vomiting and pooping and crying, that they're not gonna 761 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: be like why right? I think at my age, I 762 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: would much rather someone be with me because they want 763 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 1: to be and they choose to be every day, rather 764 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: than because they think, oh my God, to break this 765 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: contract is going to be a giant, you know, pain 766 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: in the ass. I might as well just stay married. 767 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 1: So for me personally, will I do a ceremony? Sure, 768 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 1: commitment ceremony. It's generation came up with it. It's like 769 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: you go through the whole marriage and everything, but without 770 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: that lest yeah, document think about it. There are no 771 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: other legal contracts that are eternal. Everything has an expiration 772 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: when you reaccess their marriage. It comes down to, like 773 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: I realized when my father passed away and I went 774 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: through all of the wills and he had everything in place, 775 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, if he would have remarried, this would have 776 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: been a disaster. Think about that. So it's like irresponsible 777 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: part when you're young, when you're younger, whatever, But it's 778 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: like the half of this goes to somebody just totals 779 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: and that people don't understand. They don't understand it. Understand. 780 00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 1: Could you want to hear my crazy idea? Yes, okay, 781 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: this is my crazy idea. I can't wait. All right. 782 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: I think marriage licenses should be like driver's license. We 783 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: just talked about this. You did not, Yeah, we didn't. 784 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea. Every seven years, you 785 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: know you've got the seven year itch. Okay, hey, let's reassess. 786 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: Let's reassess, and if you don't want to continue nothing. 787 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: There's no courts, there's no this. The contracts expires, yes, period, right, 788 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: and that way people aren't you know. I mean also 789 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: think about this. Historically people lived into their mid thirties, 790 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: got married at like fifteen, they were dead by thirty five. 791 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: They had twenty years. Nowadays, you could get married at 792 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: twenty five, you could live till one hundred. That's seventy 793 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: five years the same person. Now let's think about that. 794 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: Do you think you're the same person at twenty that 795 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: you are at forty that you are at seventy. No, 796 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: system wasn't designed for that's right. The system was not 797 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: designed for people to live a hundred years because you know, 798 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: twenty years could get along with many people, right, seventy years, 799 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: Like people who get divorced in their sixties. Beforehand, it 800 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: was like why why bother? You're going to die in 801 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: five years, right. What's the point now is people get 802 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: divorced in their sixties, they have another forty years. Think 803 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: about that. Marriage was not created to be this hundred 804 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: year events. It just wasn't. And so we got to 805 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: change the system. Because we're living longer, You're get to 806 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 1: change some systems. I know one. I go, we're definitely 807 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: going to do a show about this, the divorce, marriage commitments, ceremony. 808 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: And I did just read Sweden has the highest divorce rate, 809 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: but the happiest people rate because when you get a divorce, 810 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: there is no financial obligation here you go, I mean partners, 811 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: that's just the law. So they can happily move it 812 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: now to marriage. That's it. Next show, this show. I 813 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: think it's absolutely amazing that you are also moving into 814 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: venture capital for female entrepreneurs. And we really talked about 815 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: this all the time. Do not get well, I have 816 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 1: something to talk about. I can't talk about it. Yet 817 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 1: they do have some exciting news. Um yeah, this is 818 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: something that you know. When I couldn't work for Ableugen, 819 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: so I couldn't help make women financially independent that way, 820 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: I had to think of what am I going to 821 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: do this year. I'm not going to just sit around 822 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: and not help people. That's my purpose in life, right. 823 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: So we started making these female founder formed meetings in 824 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: my house where um, I would bring young female entrepreneurs 825 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 1: and then VC financers and the entrepreneurs would be able 826 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: to present, and we got a lot of investment for 827 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: these women. So it's been working really, really well, and 828 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: now I have an idea to time to take it nationwide. 829 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: Um because as you said, two percent of VC funding 830 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 1: goes to women led businesses, which by the way, earned 831 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: four times the investment then male ledgesis but we want 832 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: to help anyway we can. Once you're able to talk 833 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: about it, it's it's it's something I'm really really excited 834 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: about and I think will allow a lot of every 835 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: woman who wants to in America to have an opportunity 836 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: to start something that's INCREDI So I'm really really excited 837 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: about that. And then you know, I'm also I've got 838 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 1: a few other projects that I'm really talk about. The body, Yes, 839 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: my bust body. So it's something that I invented. You've 840 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: seen it in season one. Shape says, amazing looking, it's 841 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: really m beautiful. Like you know that it doesn't and 842 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't seems that it's really nice. Okay, that's here's 843 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: the thing about it. Like, Okay, now you know that 844 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: my pop culture knowledge is a little fudgy, right because 845 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: I only left it nine years ago. I missed a 846 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,760 Speaker 1: few I missed a few things. So I watched Bridget 847 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: Jones's Diary. I think it was twenty seventeen. I know, 848 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't know when it actually played, but that's when 849 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: I got to see it. I like that movie. It's 850 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 1: a great movie, right. And then there's that scene where 851 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: she's trying to decide to she wear the Shape where 852 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: Granny panties she's going better in her dress, but then 853 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to bring the guy home because no 854 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,240 Speaker 1: one wants to be caught in Shape, and she decides 855 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: to put it on and it works, and the guy 856 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: comes back and she completely forgets that she has it all. 857 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 1: And there's that scene where she's on the floor and 858 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,959 Speaker 1: you're indresting her and he's like, look at these naughty 859 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 1: little shoes. Look, oh my god, what is it? And 860 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 1: then he starts playing with it. I'm like, and I 861 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 1: thought to myself, what do women do? And then it's 862 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 1: a eight billion dollar markets So millions of women all 863 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: over the world are wearing Shape. But Shape is incredibly 864 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,320 Speaker 1: ugly beige, white, and black. And the reason for that 865 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 1: is because the minute you put color a pattern, because 866 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: it's a compression garment, you know, when you stretch something, 867 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: you get the lines, So the lines distort the pattern 868 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: distorts and it looks really ugly, which is why it's 869 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: always bege, white and black. Dying is the historically the 870 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: only way that we've ever colored clothing. Yours has dyed, 871 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: Yours has dyed. Mine is died. Every person in this 872 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: room the color in their clothes has been dyed. We 873 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: have a new way of putting color into clothing. We 874 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: do not die our clothes. We heat fuse color into 875 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,359 Speaker 1: our material. And what this enabled us to do. Number one, 876 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: it is so much better for the planet. Fashion alone 877 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: accounts for twenty percent of wastewater in the world twenty percent. 878 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 1: Dying is a second largest cause of wastewater in the world, 879 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,720 Speaker 1: second second largest cause. We do not die. We heat fuse, 880 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: no CO two emissions, no wastewater. It is so good 881 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: for the planet, So much better for the planet than dying. 882 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 1: You cannot imagine. And because we heat fuse it, it 883 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: doesn't act like die. It's like elastic, girl, You could 884 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: stretch it from here to eternity. It doesn't budge, the 885 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: color doesn't move, the pattern doesn't moves. For the first time, 886 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: you can wear shapewear that's pretty sucks you in, but 887 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 1: it looks like laundering. Now it's going to be available 888 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: starting April. Okay, we're relaunching. I mean, I am. I 889 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: have a website, but we close it because of all 890 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: this divorce craziness. I couldn't focus on it. I'm relaunching 891 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: it in April, and you're going to see. I mean, 892 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 1: it's incredible. It looks like lingerie, and we fix a 893 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: lot of other things. You know, the problem with shaper 894 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: also is that it's thick. You're trying to make yourself thinner, 895 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: but you're adding a very thick compression. Or I know 896 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: women who can't button their pants when they wear it 897 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: because that's as extra half a Niche makes a big difference. Yeah. Well, 898 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,879 Speaker 1: we realized if we could fuse color into fabric, maybe 899 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: we could chuse pieces of fabric together. And so it's 900 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: as thin. It's thinner than this piece of paper. It's 901 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 1: as thin as a pie. It's unbelievable. And the other thing, 902 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 1: excuse me, I don't know if I'm allowed to use 903 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: this word. You'll tell me if i'm not. The other 904 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: problem with shape where is when it covers up, you know, 905 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 1: above your chest, it gives you what's called pancake boots, Right, 906 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: the whole point it is to squish you in. It 907 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: also squishs in, parshes you that you don't want to 908 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,919 Speaker 1: squish it. So my shape where actually is not only 909 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: sold by clothing size, it's sold by cup size. Okay, 910 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: that's great, I like that. So it actually gives women 911 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: more of a bus less It's unbelievable, and it fits 912 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 1: you better and you're not sucked in because you could 913 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 1: buy a large thirty eight double D or a large 914 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: thirty eight E. It doesn't matter. And we have the 915 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 1: widest size range of it. I mean, I think we 916 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 1: go up to this second season will go up to 917 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 1: x x x L. I want every woman to know 918 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: that she's beautiful and fabulous and that we're not leaving 919 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 1: her out of the equation. And then the last part 920 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: of its time, say one more thing, because it's very, 921 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: very exciting season. The second season of this collection, we'll 922 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: have swimwear for the first time. That's swimwear. Because you'd 923 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,320 Speaker 1: never know the difference. It's as thinnest swimwear. It dries 924 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 1: like swimwear. It doesn't run some of that swear like 925 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: that so ugly. Yeah, it has to be. It has 926 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: to be because they don't know. They can't make those 927 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: colored patterns. This is genuine compression garment wear except what 928 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: it looks like a bathing suit. So imagine a little 929 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: boy short and a little tinkini. You look as sexy 930 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: as f except it's sucking you in in every direction, 931 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 1: and no one will ever know the difference because it 932 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: looks exactly like any other swimmer. And then the third 933 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: season we're going to do at leisure. You know, compression. 934 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,279 Speaker 1: A lot of athletes wear compression when they work out. 935 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: It releases toxins. You you sweat more and you lose 936 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: more calories. But no one's walking into an Equinox wearing spinx. 937 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah they're just so ugly, right, but you're going to 938 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: walk into an Equinox wearing plus body because it's gonna 939 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 1: look as nicer than lou Lemon. And then competition. Yeah, 940 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 1: at Leisure is my favorite type love. So that's the 941 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 1: passion and everything that she does. I'm excited because it's 942 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: all about helping women, right like Shape were to me. 943 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: I want to eradicate the discomfort embarrassment of land Shapewar. Ever, 944 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: I had Menny Shapeward too, and they're getting into that also, yeah, 945 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,280 Speaker 1: well I'll work on them West. I'm gonna I'll be honest, 946 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: there's enough men men, enough help that goes to men. 947 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: I'll focus on women. Of course, eventually we can get 948 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 1: to men, but right now and then and then the 949 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: other project that I'm working on that I'm really excited 950 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: about is this brand called Amian. This woman, um Elina Merle, 951 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: she is uh a cancer survivor. She lost both breasts 952 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 1: and it did terrible things to her skin, and so 953 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: her doctor recommended cryotherapy and it's a quick, quick, like 954 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: a deep yeah, and it did wonders for her skin. 955 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,360 Speaker 1: And she's an inventor. We're actually partnering on several projects together, 956 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: but this is the one that's furthest along. Basically, she said, 957 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: I wonder how women who can't go to a cryotherapy 958 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: you can't afford cryotherapy, what can they do at home 959 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: that will mimic it. So she developed this skincare routine 960 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 1: and it's an ice cube. You keep it in your 961 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,839 Speaker 1: freezer and in the morning you go like this all 962 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,359 Speaker 1: over your face and it just melts into your skin. 963 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 1: And what it does, because it acts almost like cryotherapy, 964 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: it enlarges your pores. So that the skincare that you 965 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: put on afterwards goes in deep and then the minute 966 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 1: it dries, it shrinks your poores back in, which enables 967 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: it to stay in your skin right and not dissipate. 968 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. It's an extraordinary thing. Yeah, look at myself. 969 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,279 Speaker 1: I've been using it since I've met her, so I mean, 970 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm like totally obsessed with without. Yeah, I'm going to 971 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: share you know what, I'll actually send you Guys, if 972 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,879 Speaker 1: you give me all of your I'll send I'll bring 973 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,279 Speaker 1: three boxes because you're gonna see. It's unlike, I can't wait. 974 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: I would try that every day. It's amazing, and it 975 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,839 Speaker 1: feels kind of like a mini spot treatment. Like I'll 976 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,959 Speaker 1: do it in the morning and I'll close my eyes 977 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: and I'll do this and I feel like relax and 978 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: it's almost like a meditative thing. It's really really it 979 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: feels amazing. Yeah, that's really cool. And one final question 980 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: from me for you that will help the men and 981 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: women in our audience. If you had one money lesson 982 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: that you've learned from all that you've been through that 983 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: do you think our audience would learn from? What is it? 984 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 1: Don't trust anyone, even if they're your spouse or your 985 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: best friend. Put it in a contract. We don't. I 986 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 1: didn't take enough care about contracts. I trusted instead of 987 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 1: putting it and write it. And I think, and you know, 988 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 1: we're made to feel bad if we don't trust our 989 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: loved ones. I'm sorry. Trust is great. Put it on 990 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: a piece of paper. Put it on a piece of paper. 991 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,479 Speaker 1: That is my biggest device. Because imagine, if you work 992 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 1: and you build something, and you create something of tremendous value, 993 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: and you didn't, you weren't careful with your paperwork, someone 994 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: will come and take it from you. And the more 995 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,280 Speaker 1: you succeed, when you start building a billion dollar business, 996 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,920 Speaker 1: someone's going to come for you. So put everything in writing. 997 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,720 Speaker 1: Make sure you have the best lawyer you can possibly afford. 998 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 1: Get it in a legal document. That is the best 999 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,399 Speaker 1: piece of advice I can give anybody there. You have it, well, 1000 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,399 Speaker 1: thank you so much for that and for being it's 1001 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: to open it transparent all the time. Thank you. I 1002 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 1: don't know how else. That's freedom too. Think yourself is 1003 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,800 Speaker 1: freedom too. Yes, and you'll make any seasonal announcements to 1004 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 1: my unorthodox life right here again, cannot say anything about 1005 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 1: with my Unorthodox Life. You can't say anything, but you 1006 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 1: know we feel good about it. But honestly, thank you 1007 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Julie your heart. Make sure 1008 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 1: you get the book Brazen. Make sure you watch My 1009 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,839 Speaker 1: Unorthodox Life seasons one and two, maybe three coming soon, 1010 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: we don't know nothing confirmed. Thank you for the pearls 1011 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 1: on this very special wealth wins. You guys are so amazing. 1012 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And I'm gonna make sure and 1013 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 1: I'll send you guys um a shapewear piece and the cryotherapy. 1014 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: They're gonna look at a nice skin. We got venture 1015 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: capital money. Get your tracks right, you know capital money right. 1016 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 1: And we're gonna make sure you guys can look at 1017 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 1: your marriage vows every seven years. I'm good ceremony ceremony 1018 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: to me, that's the most you know. Anyway, Thank you 1019 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 1: guys so much. This was so much fun. Thank you, 1020 00:54:54,239 --> 00:55:00,879 Speaker 1: thank you. WHEREA two