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Speaker 1: Serious ex M Triumph Channel one thirty two. The search

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Speaker 1: The girl was last seen by her mother at her

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Speaker 1: This is my angel. She said her boyfriend saw the

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Speaker 1: It gets to hold her tight. See her smile. We waited,

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Speaker 1: we watched, we prayed, we investigated. We turned over every

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Speaker 1: The search for Mariah has come to an end. Her

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Speaker 1: and now we want the truth. We want justice. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I see grace, this is crime stories. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: a very special guest joining me right now. Mariah's father,

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Speaker 1: Alex Woods is with us. Alex, I feel like I

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Speaker 1: But how and when and all that information, Alex. Do

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Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, Nancy, And first of all, my prayers

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Speaker 1: He lived there with them. Now you're saying the grandfather

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Speaker 1: that they interviewed Earl Henry three different times, um two

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00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: times in one day, and they brought it back the

428
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: next day. They've interviewed Christie twice, so we know that

429
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: they're trying to check up on the story and inconsistencies.

430
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: When you add in what we've just heard from Heather

431
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: and from Alex. So, they come home, get the kids

432
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: in bed. An hour later, Mariah wakes up. Then sure,

433
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: go get do something with her. Quieter down I can

434
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: picture that happening inside that small trailer. But we know

435
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: that he left around three o'clock in the morning or

436
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: somebody did, carrying what appeared to be a body, and

437
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: the body is found And I'm so sorry, Alex to

438
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: even say the body. I really apologize for that. But

439
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: twenty five miles away in an area in the middle

440
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: of the night, there's plenty of water around that area

441
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: and on County North Carolina where you could dump a

442
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: dead baby. We know their story is bogus. What we're

443
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: getting from Heather and Alex, to be honest, actually makes

444
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: more sense to me. It actually does. Believe it or not.

445
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: And it would mean instead of Christy being a mother

446
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: like you or or a dad like me. And by

447
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: the way, my wife would never send me in to

448
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: tuck the baby in. Baby wakes up in the middle

449
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: of the night, she's checking on it. It It doesn't matter

450
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: how kind of what kind of dad I am. All

451
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: the rest of us would load the baby, head to

452
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: the hospital and call nine one wins am on my way.

453
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: But that's not a normal situation that took place. So

454
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: are they getting away with something and afraid to talk

455
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: to the police And that would be their first thought.

456
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: Oh no, we did something. We're in trouble. Let's cover

457
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: it up. And that's what Earl's charged with. Right now,

458
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: we know that baby Mariah was found in a creek

459
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: in Pender County, about twenty five miles from Mariah's home

460
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: that she shared with her mother, her siblings, and Chimery

461
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: to live in. Back to Alex Wood. This is Mariah's dad, Alex.

462
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: What do her brothers say happened that night? I have

463
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: not been able to talk to him yet. They are

464
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: in uh they're in CPS. Disgusting still I have not

465
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: talked to him. I have not been able to see him.

466
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: Right now. The boyfriend, Earl Kimry, thirty two year old,

467
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: is charged with only obstruction of justice, second degree burglary, larceny,

468
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: and stolen property. We are all the story of missing Maria.

469
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: The news has just broken that her little body has

470
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: been found. I want to go to Vincent Hill, former

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00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: Nashville p D investigator Vincent. It seems to me that

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00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: every single person in that home needs to be separated

473
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: and questioned and administered polygraphs. What do you think, Vincent?

474
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen photos of the home. How could

475
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: all this go down? And nobody here what was happened. Absolutely,

476
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 1: it's a very small, confined space. And you're right, everyone

477
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: needs to be separated because you know the accounts we

478
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: heard from Heather, you know those could change tomorrow. We

479
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: don't want to rule out anything at this point. The

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00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: fact that Mariah was dumped in water, to me as

481
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: an investigator, it tells me they were trying to get

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00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: rid of some kind of evidence. Whether it's DNA, whether

483
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: it's the the un godly thought of maybe she was unlested,

484
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: We don't know. But the fact that that little girl

485
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: was discarded in water, yeah, that speaks volumes and they're

486
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: trying to hide something. Because to your point, Nancy, as

487
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: a parent, we all know we rushed to the hospital,

488
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: like when ours ran over and my mom rushed me

489
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: to the hospital, even though the police thought she had

490
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: done something wrong, her first instinct was to rush me

491
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: to the hospital. So everything that they're saying is not

492
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: natural as parents, it's not natural as logical adults. So

493
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: everyone needs to be separated. They need to be given polygraphs.

494
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: And that investigator is still ongoing. Police are still looking

495
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: at all the evidence in the home, around the home

496
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: and the vehicles in the trash game in the backyard,

497
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: so it's still a very active investigation at this point.

498
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: Back to Alex Woods, this is Mariah's dad joining us. Alex,

499
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: when are they going to have answers from the medical

500
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: Examiner's office? When if they told you that we would

501
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: know the cause of death, come view the body, well

502
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: not the Mariah tay. They're fluid to Greenville, checking her

503
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: out and everything, and they're gonna fly her back the

504
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: Jacksonville either Monday evening or tuesdays. The arrest weren't issued

505
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: for Earl Kimry to live in obstruction of justice that

506
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: is related to this. I'm not sure that a felony

507
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: larceny is, but that part is related because the arrest

508
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 1: weren't lays out that he obstructed justice allegedly by quote

509
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: removing Mariah's body from the scene of her death, which

510
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: means they believe the death occurred in the home. She

511
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: was not taken out of the home and killed and

512
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: did conceal Mariah Woods death and body, knowing that Mariah

513
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: Woods died from unnatural causes. The defendant acted with deceit

514
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: and intent to fraud. It also says quote Camry secretly

515
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: disposed of the dead child's body. Now, this, if you

516
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: read between the lines and you scrutinize their choice of language,

517
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: shows that the child was not thrown in the water alive,

518
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: she did not drown, That she died in the home

519
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: and was specifically taken from the home to hide the body.

520
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: So that's the way that went, and I can tell

521
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: you that from the arrest warrant. But my question is,

522
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: did mom know? How could all this happen in that

523
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: tiny home, very tiny home, with nobody knowing a thing?

524
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: I want to get to go ahead, Alex. I feel

525
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: that she knew. I feel that she had a big

526
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: part in it. She might have been the one that

527
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: done it. That might be why they ain't charge row

528
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't murder yet. I think you're waiting on the autopsy

529
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: to come back to confirm how she died. And I

530
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: think mine is going to get charged with murder or something.

531
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: Right now. The mom has not been arrested. The mom

532
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 1: has not been named a person of interest. Again, this

533
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: the reading of this warrant, it could mean he to

534
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: live in Earl Henry Kenny did not kill her, but

535
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: only disposed of her body. We don't know yet. The

536
00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: answer maybe within the siblings, they may know what happened. Now. Also,

537
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: what I predict is going to happen to Dr Daniel Bober,

538
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: forensic psychiatrist, is that one of them is going to blab,

539
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: either the mother or the boyfriend. One of them is

540
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: going to talk. And if the mom truly was asleep,

541
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: if she tells a truthful version of what happened that night,

542
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: it will probably be damning to the boyfriend. I mean,

543
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: that's how you crack a case. You start with all

544
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: the witnesses and you take them one by one and

545
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: get the whole truth. Well, I'm gonna say nanty exactly,

546
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: separating them and doing polygraphs, and you know whoever is

547
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: going to the prosecutor first to make a deal, um,

548
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: and I guess they're gonna have to decide whether they

549
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: feel like they are going to turn on someone that's

550
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: close to them. But obviously someone knows the truth and

551
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: someone is not talking, So I guess we'll see what happens.

552
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing, I absolutely actually Wilcott would

553
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: not offer anybody a deal. Nobody gets a deal if

554
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: you want to upright, fine, Otherwise I'll put a both

555
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: in the same pot. And let him stew together during

556
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: the investigation until we find out what. I don't know

557
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 1: who did what. I don't know if the mothers involved,

558
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: out of the boyfriends involved. This is all I know.

559
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: The boyfriend has been arrested. The warrant claims that he

560
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: took the body dead from the home and concealed it. Well,

561
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: to me, that's enough to say. I just think this

562
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: child was murdered. I think everyone's being really kind about

563
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: we don't know yet what happened. Yes, we don't know

564
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: yet what happened. But I do not believe in an

565
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: ounce of my being that someone doesn't know and that

566
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: this child wasn't murdered. I don't believe it. I think

567
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: they do know, and I agree with you, Nancy. Charge

568
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: everybody until we figure it out. The mother was in

569
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: the home, the boyfriend was in the home. They need

570
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: to be charged, and then we need to find out

571
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: exactly who knew what, who did what. But this little

572
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: three year old girl has been around people she shouldn't

573
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: have been around, and she is now debt back to

574
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: Alex woods siance. Also joining us is Heather Heather. It

575
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: seems like uh, the mom's dad has talked to you guys,

576
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: what more did you learn? Heather? Um? Uh, we have

577
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: not been actually been told much of anything else. Um.

578
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: The only thing they really are telling us right now

579
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: is that pretty much they're really just waiting for the autopsy.

580
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: Because now the mother and earl are trying to say

581
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: that Ryan the s one of the sons did it.

582
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: And okay, wait wait, wait wait wait, that's the bombshell

583
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: right there. Who is trying to say the brothers did it?

584
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 1: How the brothers are? What? How old are they? They're nine? Okay,

585
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now they did not do

586
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: it because the likelihood at Vincent Hill and Dr Bober

587
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: speak or forever hold your peace because uh sibling side okay,

588
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: when you it's slang for when a sibling kills their

589
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: brother or sister extremely rare, which you know, to go

590
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: back to Jonny Ramsey, I never thought Burke did it

591
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: because it's practically unheard of for one sibling another sibling. Yes,

592
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: it does happen in some freaky situations, but no, typically no,

593
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: they did not kill their sibling. Am I right on that? Bober?

594
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: Can you can you throw me a bone? Well? Also, well,

595
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: Ryan the one are trying to but the one. Christie

596
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: and Earle are trying to blame it on Now he's

597
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: no more than seventy pounds, not even seventy pounds. How

598
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: do you know how there is no way? How do

599
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: you know? Christie the mom and Earl Kenny, the boyfriend,

600
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: are trying to blame it on the brothers. Wow, who

601
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: said that it had been released? Um like the the

602
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 1: like the um. They said it was from the court,

603
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: like ah, not to d A. But they worked with

604
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: the d d A. But they said they're in they're

605
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 1: in this court system. They said that now that there's

606
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: new people, but they're just they're ruling it out. They

607
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: know they don't They pretty much know it's not true.

608
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: But now they got like they're just waiting for the

609
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: autopsy because they know, like how they're throwing now more

610
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: things out another story. Now they're trying to blame it

611
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 1: on Ryan. Okay, back, whoa whoa right there right there?

612
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: That's my question. Heaven, someone from law enforcement told you that.

613
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: Who is trying to blame that? Who that that Earl

614
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: Kimry and Christie are trying to say that that's why

615
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: in that Earl that they and that's why Earl panic

616
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: and was trying to clean it up. They WHOA, that

617
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: is a major bombshell right there, because I don't believe

618
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: that happened at all. And Heather, you're too, only me

619
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: the mom the pretty much said they're just going with

620
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: the autopsy because they don't believe that either. They're just

621
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out exactly what happened. You were

622
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: you know how she died? What happened. Let me just

623
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: put it out there on the record. The mom has

624
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: not been charged with anything. She has not been named

625
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: a person of interest. The little brothers have not been

626
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 1: charged with anything at all. They're certainly not persons of interest.

627
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: Statistically unheard of. Hold on, I want to thank our

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Speaker 1: partner making our program possible. You know, everybody and their

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630
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631
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Speaker 1: It's keen law, it's a blueberry. It's a sudden choke.

632
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't even they don't know what's next, but I

633
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Speaker 1: can tell you this. Super foods are nutritionally dense foods

634
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Speaker 1: that are ext extremely beneficial, especially beneficial to your health.

635
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Speaker 1: Now I do know this. Beats. Beats are one of

636
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: the most powerful super foods you can put in your body,

637
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: loaded with important nutrients to increase your blood flow. That

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Speaker 1: you I'm overwhelmed. Alex Woods. Your head has got to

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Speaker 1: be spinning. You're waiting to go see Mariah's body. You're

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00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: trying to figure out the funeral arrangements. I know that

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00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: you're in shock right now. You're worried about your boys.

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00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: The siblings have been taken away, as they always are

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Speaker 1: in cases like this. Alex, when you put your head

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Speaker 1: on the pillow at night, I mean, what runs through

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Speaker 1: your mind? What's the first what's the last thing you

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Speaker 1: think of at night and the first thing you think

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Speaker 1: of in the morning, Alex, Angel Mariah mr so much.

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Speaker 1: And to bring my boys on slee I want to

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Speaker 1: hud and Sleezen boys so bad, and I wish I

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00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: could do saying my daughter. You know, Alex, I had

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00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: to travel a lot on various cases and trials and investigations,

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00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: and when I am away from the twins, I swear

698
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: it feels like my body, my arms are just aching.

699
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: I want to hold them so much, and I love

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00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: them so much, and I just hurt for you so

701
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: badly thinking about your boys are in some strange place

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00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: and you can't see your little girl. I mean, I remember, Alex,

703
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: I used to wake up in the morning and I

704
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: would think everything had just been a bad dream. When

705
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: I was a crime victim. That would be my first thought.

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00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: I'd wake up happy, normally, and then within like five seconds,

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Speaker 1: it would hit me, Oh, dear Lord in Heaven, it

708
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: did did this thing really happen? And then my mind

709
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: would just try to make sense of what had happened.

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00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean, when you wake up in the morning, Alex,

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Speaker 1: what goes through your mind? If I'm good, when I'm

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00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: going to see my boys, Just a ton of things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's always I can't stop thinking about Mariah,

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00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: Nate and Ryan. I just can't. I can't. There are

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Speaker 1: my min How could how coud somebody let let this

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00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: happen to anybody, much less precious little three years. Have

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00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: you talked to Mariah's mom yet? No? So you're really

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00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: hearing your information through her father. Is that right, Alex friends?

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Speaker 1: Not for her? Not for him? Right? Okay? So three friends,

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Speaker 1: Ashley Willcott, how will they make sense of it? And

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Speaker 1: what do you expect we're going to learn from the

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00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: medical exams? I think the medical examiner is going to

723
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: identify this child as Mariah. I think that the medical

724
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: examiner is going to give very vital information about whether

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00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: or not um there was any sexual assault, on molestation,

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00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: and the actual cause of death. I hate to say this,

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00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: but I'm going to tell you, in over twenty years

728
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: of experience, I'm fearful the cause of death is going

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00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: to be murder. There's no sense to be made of this.

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00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: But the one thing I read that someone said, we

731
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: need a memorial so that we can focus on the

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00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: three year old and the tragic death. Completely agree. But

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Speaker 1: the other half of this, and the importance to investigating

734
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Speaker 1: and figuring out what happened, is to educate the public

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Speaker 1: about making better choices of who's around your children and

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Speaker 1: protecting your children. You know you cannot have said it

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Speaker 1: any better than that, Ashley Willcot child advocate Alex Woods,

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Speaker 1: I know that you were in a battle to get

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Speaker 1: custody of Mariah and her brothers, but were you ever

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00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: afraid for her life? I mean, did you ever have

741
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Speaker 1: an inkling that she could end up dead? Always in

742
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Speaker 1: your mind, but you never wanted to think it. I mean,

743
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: I a, I mean not and prade nothing like this,

744
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: whatever ever come? You know? I mean, it's that something, Alex.

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00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: Why do they go to this body of water? What

746
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: led them there? I have no idea. I mean, I

747
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: guess the tip. I guess some maybe some somebody kicked

748
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: the authorities off, maybe somebody talked. I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: You know, to Dave mac joining us um A dive team,

750
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: it was the Feteville Remote Dive Team was doing the search.

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00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: And that kind of search is very difficult. I've dived

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00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: hundreds of times and it's hard. In that kind of

753
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 1: body of water. It can be murky. Sometimes you can't

754
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: even see the hand in front of your face. It's

755
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: a very very difficult dive situation. And I'm wondering what

756
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: led them there? Dave, you know the things that I'm

757
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: looking at is are the fact that Earl Henry was charged,

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00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: you know, with concealing this before they found the body.

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00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: And when you look at when they interviewed him, when

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00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: police spent they did three interviews over two days with

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Speaker 1: Earl Camry and two with Christie. So I'm guessing, and

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00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: that's all I can do at this point, speculate that

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00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: during the course of those interviews they were able to

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00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: find out maybe where they normally took off to, maybe

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00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: they gave hints of where they might have been. And

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Speaker 1: because you've got to realize twenty five miles from the

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Speaker 1: home and then to charge Kemry with this before they

768
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Speaker 1: find the body, they find this little girl twenty five

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Speaker 1: miles from home in a small creek in the middle

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Speaker 1: of nowhere. That that's why I figured they got that

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Speaker 1: information between Earl himself and Christie. You know how expert

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Speaker 1: interviewers are at sitting down with suspects and getting the

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Speaker 1: information they're looking for. I'm banking, I'm banking they gave

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Speaker 1: it up themselves. Dr Bober, How is it that your

775
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: mind works the way it does when you lose somebody

776
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: that for instance, there you wake up in the morning

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Speaker 1: and you don't. Even if you don't realize at first

778
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: that they've been killed, it takes a minute to grasp

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00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: that reality, Nancy. Victims of acute stress or horrible circumstances

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00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: like this often go through an emotional numbing where it

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00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: seems almost surreal that it's not that it's actually not

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00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: reality and it's the mind's way of protecting itself from

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00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: the shock and the trauma of the events by disconnecting

784
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: yourself from the emotions until it finally sets in. Dr Bobera,

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00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: what what can you tell Alex would's Mariah's dad tonight?

786
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: What what can he possibly do? You know? Um? Mr Woods,

787
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: I would tell you that, you know, people talk about

788
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: taking it one day at a time. I mean you're

789
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: gonna have to take it literally one hour at a

790
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: time and mobilize all your supports and lean on the

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00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: people that love and care about you. And uh, you know,

792
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: all our hearts and our prayers are out for you.

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00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: And if there's anything we can do, I hope you'll

794
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: reach out. But now is the time to lean on

795
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: the people that are closest to you to get you

796
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: through this difficult time. Muser I do man, I am God, God,

797
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: bless you, sir, God, bless you. I don't know I'm

798
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: doing it. Thank you, Alex. I want to think about

799
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: Mariah in life. Can you just tell me about her?

800
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: What did she like to play? Did she like to sing?

801
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: Did she like a bath? What was her favorite TV show?

802
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: I just want to think about her in a happy

803
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: and positive way because she gave so many people so

804
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: much joy. Alex, just tell me about her. She was

805
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: so scarously love the dance, she loved the listening music,

806
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: she loved the play, she loved she laugh and smile.

807
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: She loved to eat. I love to watch TV. She

808
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: didn't handle favorite TV show because she was widowed, but

809
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: she just anything. Cans music. Yeah, such a tear free

810
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: little girl, happy, alis smiling, just so peaceful. She was

811
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: so beautiful In the pictures I see of her. She

812
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: always has a little bow in her hair or the

813
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: tiara in her hair, and she's always dressed up just

814
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: so cute. And from what I've been told, she was

815
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: a real daddy's girl. Guys, as we head into this day,

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00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,959
Speaker 1: I asked you to join me in sending out your

817
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: thoughts and your prayers. Two and four Alex Woods and

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00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: his family as they battle this horrible thing. Please send

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00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: up a prayer on behalf of him and baby Mariah.

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Speaker 1: Dr bober Vincent Hill, Dave Mack, Ashley Wilcot, Alex Woods, Heather,

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Speaker 1: Alan Duke, and Jackie. To all of you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace's Crime Story signing off, goodbye friend,