1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Bts man over the waters. We're out here in Croatia 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: hanging out on the happy boat. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: Jack is a little scared. 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: That's why he has his headphones on and smoke and 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: he's just trying to stay meditated. Man, stay tuned behind 6 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: the scenes. All the smoke, Croatia by Man. We've had 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: a great day today. We hopped on the boat, sailed 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: to a couple of islands. What are we doing here today? 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: So I understand this is a little club team. 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, this is a local team. Yadrin Kathem from 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: the Losian Islands. I spend my summers playing basketball here. 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: Enjoyed it quite a lot. So a lot of people 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: work here, a lot of kids are very excited to 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: see you guys, and I feel like it's a great 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 3: opportunity to send an inspirational message and you know, just 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: snap some photos. So I think the kids are gonna 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 3: love it. 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Sounds good. 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: So my name is Matt Barnes. I played fourteen years 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: in the NBA. I got a chance to play with 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant Steph Curry. I won a championship with Steph Curry. 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: Post career, I do media. We have a show called 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: All the smoke on showtime. So, jack you want to 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: tell me a little about yourself. 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 4: Steven Jackson played with the San Antonio Spurs, won a 26 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 4: championship with the San Antonio Spurs playing NBA fourteen years. 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: So how old are you guys? How old? What's the 28 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: age range here? Eleven? 29 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: Thirteen? Fourteen? Eight? Okay? Little man? What about you? How 30 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: old are you girls? I'll be shy. Let's let's go. 31 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: Let's how old? Thirteen? 32 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: Okay? So what is your guys' goal in basketball? Why 33 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: is everyone here? 34 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: Everyone? You guys want to play in the NBA? Huh? 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: Who's your guys favorite player? Kobe Bryant? What about you guys? 36 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: No Lebron fans here? 37 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? Just a coach? You guys have any questions? I 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: hope he's on a Corstal question about it? 39 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 5: What was the feeling when Kobe didn't flinch? 40 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: Oh? When I faked the ball? 41 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: Kobe? I want I wanted to fight Kobe that day. 42 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: I told him too. 43 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: Obviously we know how great Kobe was as a player physically, 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: but he was a mental guy. He liked to attack 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: you mentally, so he would do a lot of stuff 46 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: like lbu and grab you and push you and do 47 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: a lot of other stuff that the rest would never call. 48 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: So I was ready to fight Kobe that day. I 49 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: don't even know how the ball player happened, but we 50 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: became teammates after that, and really became brothers after that. 51 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 2: How old are you? I'll see you're a baby when 52 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: that happened. What year was that? 53 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: Two thousand and nine? You're yeah, you were two years 54 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: old when that happened. What about you? 55 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: Got a question? How do you how? Seven? Okay? What 56 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: about you? Seven? Okay? 57 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 5: Nice? 58 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: Yep? They don't stink, do they? They smell good? Here 59 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: you go. I was your height at fifteen. May come on? 60 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: Dotas played god Kobe except him. 61 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: I always had to guard the best player, so Heavin 62 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: Durant Lebron. Yes, yes, every single night I had to 63 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: guard the best player. 64 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: So probably one of those guys. 65 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: Okay, rusty, Yeah, I play with shot. Get big like this, big, 66 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: big strong. 67 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: Squeeze in, squeeze in. Alright, good luck, guys, good look, 68 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: good look, good luck. All right. 69 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: I'm old. 70 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: Ah, thank you, thank you, thank you. 71 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you. 72 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: It is my great honor and pleasure to introduce two 73 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: gentlemen that are known all around the world. Former NBA 74 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: champions and hosts of All the Smoke podcasts, Matt Barnes 75 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: and Stephen Jackson, We're here. 76 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 6: To talk about All the Smoke. What was your relationship 77 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 6: like with the media, given that you are now a 78 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 6: source at the media, I still hate them. 79 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: So many people have opinions about what we do, but 80 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 4: no experience, so that bothers people who actually have experience. 81 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 5: I think a lot of the media gravitates to who's 82 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 5: the biggest start. 83 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: I saw the big and it was. 84 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: Very clear that they had a unique voice that could 85 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: fit where no one else was. 86 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 6: The way you are so open on your podcast with 87 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 6: your emotions, and you create this space for other men 88 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 6: to be so vulnerable. That is the antithesis of what 89 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 6: we see in the media of a male athlete. 90 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: When you come to Malcolm Studios in Santa Monica, the sunshining, 91 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: We're right by the beach, we have music playing, we're smoking. 92 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: It's really a safe space and I can't tell you 93 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: how many people we've spoken to they'll say, you know, 94 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: I've never told anyone this, and that's what we kind 95 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: of know. 96 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: Like God, they feel comfortable. 97 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 4: So I want to take you out of all the 98 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 4: smoke set one second. So while you were talking, somebody 99 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 4: made an abrupt noise up there. 100 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: What would happen if that happened to our show? You 101 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: have to do push ups, so I cannot. You don't 102 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: know what leave that guy. 103 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: I raise your hand, Yes, sir, we're bringing the honest spass. 104 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: So the push ups are push ups with a with 105 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: a joint in your mouth. 106 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: There you go, There you go, dude, easy for us. 107 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: Getting tired, seven and finished? 108 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 6: Nah, could you just give a huge amount of applause 109 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 6: to Matt Barnes stats Steven A. 110 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: Finosa. 111 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: This is an incredible appreciation man, magic for us. Yes, sir, 112 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: appreciation man. It's wonderful. My name is Matt Barnes. 113 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: Played fourteen years in the NBA one A Championship with 114 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors. In twenty seventeen, retired from there 115 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: and unexpectedly transitioned into media. 116 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: I worked for ESPN, fortunate. 117 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: Enough to have this show all the Smoke with Showtime 118 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: and my brother Stephen Jackson, and do a few other 119 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: things on the media side. 120 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: How y'all doing okay? All right? I'm doing good as well. 121 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: Steven Jackson played in the NBA fourteen years, won a 122 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 4: championship with the Spurs, and just the blessed guy to 123 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 4: be in a great position to have a great show 124 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 4: and to work with great people. 125 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: I'm not special. 126 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: I'm just a guy who works hard and appreciates the 127 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 4: people around me. 128 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: So honor to be here. Thanks for having us. 129 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: How our show came about, we were both retired doing 130 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: media on different media outlets and just getting a really 131 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: positive response from our fellow teammates that we used to 132 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: play with in the league and you. 133 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: Know, people we were working with. 134 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: So one day I approached Jack while we were medicating 135 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: and told him, Hey, we should do a show together. 136 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: And he's like, okay, like what show? And I was like, well, 137 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: let's do a podcast. And he asked me what a 138 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: podcast was. And I didn't really know at the time 139 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: what a podcast was. I just knew that we could, 140 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, we can indulge in consume cannabis while we 141 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: talk about sports. And from there we had a chance 142 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: to run across my guy, Brian Daily, and he had 143 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: happened to just be a part of something called Showtime 144 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: Basketball that was just getting started, and I pitched him 145 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: on the idea. 146 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: He understood but didn't know what would happen. 147 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: I didn't know what would happened, but we made a 148 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: partnership and man three and a half years later, we 149 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: won several awards and we're I guess worldwide recognized now 150 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: because we're out here in Croatia pushing two episodes. Yeah, 151 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: coming up on our two hundredth episodes soon. So it's 152 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: just been again, it's been an amazing experience getting a 153 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: chance to interview some of the most famous athletes and 154 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: entertainers in the world. It's been three and a half 155 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: years since we've been working nearly two hundred shows. What 156 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: do you feel oparates our shows from other shows? 157 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: Just us being authentic. 158 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 4: I think when we started our show, we didn't create 159 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: our show have a blueprint of somebody else show to 160 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: see what our show can be. Like everything that we start, 161 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 4: everything that we have with our show is organic, from 162 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 4: the name, from the way we dress, from the way 163 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: we do our interviews, from the way we talk, you know, 164 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 4: from the relationships we have with our guests. And I 165 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: think that's what's different. You know, our fans support us 166 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: in that organic way, right. So a lot of people 167 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: that have shows they don't have the relationships with people 168 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: all across the board like we have in with us. 169 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: We wi emotion on our studies, so anytime somebody come 170 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 4: on our show, they're willing to tell their stories and 171 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: get some things off their chests because we live our 172 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: lives that way. 173 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: So it works for us. 174 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I also think too, you know, we've been 175 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to create a situation where people feel comfortable 176 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: talking to us. You know, a lot of time in 177 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: media is particularly when you're athletes, you really don't give 178 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: your all because you're not really sure of the motive 179 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: of the person on the other side of the microphone 180 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: or the camera. But we've been able, like Jack said, 181 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: because we are so transparent about who we've had the 182 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: ability to have some of the biggest names in the world, 183 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: from Kobe Bryant to Will Smith to Steph Curry to 184 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg, really open up and just kind of tell 185 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: us stuff they've never told anyone before. So I think 186 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: that's another reason why our show has been successful and 187 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: continues to gain steam, is because we're talking to some 188 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: of the most famous people in the world, and they're 189 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: telling us stuff that they normally don't tell anybody, So 190 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: we couldn't do anything without our fans. And you know, 191 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: although some of you may know us, may not know us, 192 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: we appreciate everyone who's even looking at us right now 193 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: because we're out here sitting and you might not even 194 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: understand what we're saying, but we just appreciate you being here, 195 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: appreciate you supporting us. Jack, We've had a number of 196 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: amazing guests. Do any guests come to mind as some 197 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: of your favorite shows we've done so far? 198 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: I mean, of course, to Kobe, Kobe probably his last interview, 199 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: somebody who we all looked up to, somebody I grew 200 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,479 Speaker 4: up with and admired his passion, his drive, his dedication 201 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 4: to be great. 202 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: I think the episode is one of our whole type. 203 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: But also the. 204 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 4: Will Smith, just the timing of it, everything that he 205 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 4: had going on and willing to come talk to us first. 206 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 4: I think that's had a lot to me. So those 207 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 4: two episodes, for sure. 208 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: My episodes, obviously Kobe being Kobe's last interview, and obviously 209 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: our history with nearly fighting and then becoming teammates. It 210 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: was great to sit down and have a conversation with him, 211 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: and like I said earlier, for him to open up 212 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: and share stuff that he normally doesn't share. You know, 213 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: he had this persona being the Mamba and obviously a 214 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: tremendous basketball player, but we had the ability to somehow 215 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: crack that wall and we got to learn about Kobe 216 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: the father, and the businessman and the husband and just 217 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: all the other stuff he was into. So that was 218 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: definitely my favorite interview. 219 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: So since All the Smoke started, a lot of athletes, 220 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 4: a lot of people come along, started podcasts, and a 221 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 4: lot of people doing a great job with their podcast. 222 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 4: And it's a lot of people, it's too many the name, 223 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 4: but we've helped do something big here at Showtime and 224 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 4: helped their Showtime Basketball. How does it feel, Matt to 225 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 4: to have a hand in what's built here at Showtime? 226 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: How does this different different from the previous jobs you had. 227 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: It's been great, you know, obviously you know thanking Steven 228 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: has Feroza and Brian Daily for taking a chance on us. 229 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean we were talking with Stephen just the other 230 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: day and the first time we were doing atteries, He's like, 231 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: oh shit, I don't know if this is gonna work. So, 232 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: you know, from that day to kind of again being 233 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: an award winning podcast. It's been great and really to 234 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: me be the trust that Showtime has had in us 235 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: to continue to allow us to have help, you know, 236 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: help them build out this sector of their company. Bringing 237 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: on the likes of Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce and 238 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Cousins and Rachel Nichols and Jamal Crawford and just 239 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: all the people that you know, we're in our circle 240 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: that we were able to help kind of make the 241 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: transition a little smooth for them coming over. 242 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: And you know, I'll put you know. 243 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: The names I just mentioned against any names of you know, 244 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: any other network across the board when it comes to basketball, 245 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: because I really feel like we have the best crew 246 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: of people H when it comes to that. 247 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: So again, it's been it's been. 248 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: Dope having our show and really just learning the business 249 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: and helping H build out Showtime Basketball. 250 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 4: Like I said, a podcasts that somebody starting a new 251 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: podcast every day, Like there's so many podcasts, how very 252 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 4: few are authentic and so much has changed in the 253 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 4: media space. 254 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 2: What do you think is next to change? 255 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously we sat in the standard with doing. 256 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: A podcast in Croatia. Yeah, so I mean, what you 257 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: think is next in the podcast space? 258 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I don't know what's next, but 259 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: I know that we want to continue to just elevate, 260 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: continue to have quality content, continue to be real and authentic, 261 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: and and and be personable with our fans and and 262 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: and and and people that you know, look at what 263 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: we do. 264 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: Continue to set the bar, you know what I mean. 265 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: I think again we've set a standard in this space 266 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: that a lot of people have, you know, not necessarily copy, 267 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: but just have come up and told us like, hey, 268 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, we started our show because of what you did. 269 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 2: So to continue to inspire. 270 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: But still try to stay on top, still try to 271 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, be the best we can be and continue 272 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: to grow with the supportive team we have, doing more 273 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: live shows, traveling to different countries, continuing to have interesting 274 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: guests that share interesting stories with us. Is I think 275 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: the key of our success and how the space will 276 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: continue to evolve, because we will continue to evolve. 277 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 4: So a lot of y'all don't know this is the 278 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: next question is a question I would really ask him 279 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 4: in real life, like because with our show, like we've 280 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 4: always been great teammates and with our show, like the negotiations, 281 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: the meetings, the way the show's going to go, how 282 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 4: it's going to be. Ran I put all that in 283 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: his hands, So I give him a lot of credit 284 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 4: for that, for the way to show. The success we've had, 285 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 4: I give a lot of credit to him. And this 286 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: is a question I would ask him in real life, 287 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: what is this store for all the smoke? As we 288 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 4: close our season four and head towards season five and 289 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 4: the four. 290 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: I don't really ask him that. 291 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, obviously we're coming to the end 292 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: of the season four. I can't believe we have four seasons. 293 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: The fact that we're here in Croatia is amazing. We 294 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: had a great interview today with how do you what's 295 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: a miss Misko? 296 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yokich's agent. 297 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna interview our guy Domo in a second coming 298 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: up on our two hundred episode. I hope that that is, 299 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, a big episode and we'll be able to 300 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: provide a you know, kind of a big splash with 301 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: our two hundred episode. So really, you know the goal 302 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: is to finish strong season four and come out swinging 303 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: on season five. So I'm sure we'll add to a 304 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: few things here and there, but right now, just The 305 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: goal is to continue to create great content and keep 306 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: surprising people. 307 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: It means a lot to be able to come in 308 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 4: and do a show here in great We set a 309 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 4: lot of standards in the podcast space. We was the 310 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 4: first to do a lot of things, and we take 311 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 4: pride in that because we wasn't the big name NBA players, 312 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 4: We wasn't the guys all on all the commercials. So 313 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: for us to be here doing something that hasn't been 314 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: done and setting the standard for podcasts, I think it's wonderful. 315 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 4: And we thank you guys for accepting us, because we 316 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: could have been a lot of places and could. 317 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: Have had nobody out here. So to have y'all here support. 318 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: And and like you said, even if y'all don't understand, just 319 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 4: understand where all the smoke is. And to be out 320 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 4: and support the conference and support Dowmo, I think it's 321 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: a beautiful experience for us. But thank you for being 322 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: here so mad. The question is to you, how important 323 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: is it for us to build up to bring our 324 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 4: brand out here and do a show like that here 325 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 4: in Croati. Well, I think it's very important. 326 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody you know you want to be big 327 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: and you want to succeed, but you don't only want 328 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: to succeed in you know, your space, you want to 329 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: exceed internationally. And obviously this is an opportunity to come, 330 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, across the globe and you know, kind of 331 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: show our talents and show what we can do in 332 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: this space. So I think it's huge to be able 333 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: to fly over the water and have the opportunity. So 334 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: again we want to thank everyone who made that possible. 335 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: It's great. It won't be our last time here. We've 336 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: loved every second we've been here on Lochine and then 337 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: having a chance to come here and meet the people 338 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: and eat the food and see the whistling stars and 339 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: the beautiful sunsets. 340 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just been you know, it's been great. 341 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: Plus I get to get away from my six kids, 342 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: So any excuse I can get away from my six kids, 343 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm always going to do that. But yeah, no, it's 344 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: been great coming across the water and we look forward. 345 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: To continuing to do that. 346 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: Before we bring up our next guest, we wanted to 347 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: take a chance to see if anybody, and don't be afraid, 348 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: has any kind of questions for us, You can ask 349 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: about our career, about our show about anything. So if 350 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: you do have a question, raise your hand and we'll 351 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: bring a mic man around and we'll answer your question 352 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: to the best of our ability. So anybody, anybody, we 353 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: got a mic. 354 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: There we go. 355 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 5: It's someone that works invest with media and produces content 356 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 5: for our best of fans. I want to thank you 357 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 5: a lot for basically giving us conflct stories from your 358 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 5: careers or from the guests that were on All the Smoke. 359 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 5: I think you did a lot for the culture and 360 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 5: the culture or basketball that has really, you know, a 361 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 5: reason in the last few years, and I think you 362 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 5: two are basically the pioneers of that. So thanks a 363 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 5: lot for that. And to give you one basketball question 364 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 5: maybe as you were both a part of the two 365 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 5: thousand and seven Bible Warriors that was one of my 366 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 5: favorite teams ever. Do you maybe see a comparison with 367 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 5: the Miami Heat that are now in the finals both 368 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 5: eight seats. 369 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they made it to the finals. 370 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 5: You made it deep into the second round, but I 371 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 5: kind of see similarity in the character those Both teams 372 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 5: are really tough, full of tough players like yourself, Baron. 373 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: Davis and all the rest of the guys. 374 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 5: If you can maybe tell me if you see any 375 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 5: resemblance in those two runs. 376 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: That's a good question. Miami has been incredible, and you're right. 377 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: You know, that Golden State team, I had a bunch 378 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: of talented should I say misfits. You know, I had 379 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: my issues, He had some issues. Other guys had some issues, 380 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 1: and we all brought our issues together and became an 381 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: issue for the rest of the NBA. That's really where 382 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, Stack and I, although we had known each 383 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: other from playing against each other, that's what we became teammates, 384 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: and then we became brothers. And that team was special, 385 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that were ready to go to 386 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: war every single game, and you know, went out there 387 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: and played as hard as we can and you know, 388 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: made NBA history by beating you know, Dirk that year, 389 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: Dirk was the MVP of the league. I think their 390 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: team had won like sixty seven games, and we went 391 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: out there and shocked the NBA, shock the world. The 392 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: first eight seed to beat the number one seed in 393 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: a seven game series that had been done in a 394 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: five game series, was first time ever to be done 395 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: in the seven game series. 396 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: So to compare that. 397 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: To Miami, although we were really good. We didn't we 398 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: just didn't do what they did. You know, they've been 399 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: incredible with you know, seven or eight undrafted players, some 400 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: of their best players being hurt. But one thing we 401 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: can compare to is the heart that Jimmy Butler has 402 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: and that's how all of us play. 403 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: We all had that type. 404 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: Of heart and fire and passion. We're willing to do 405 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,239 Speaker 1: anything to help our team win. Really take your hat 406 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: off to Miami. I'm happy for a lot of those 407 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: young guys that are hopefully getting big deals off this 408 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: run they've made. 409 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 4: And thank you for the flowers. Appreciate it. You know, 410 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 4: we definitely feel like we were the creators of the space, 411 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 4: you know, as far as being athletes. But hear that 412 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 4: from somebody way out here in Croatia and to help 413 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 4: that support it means a lot to us. 414 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 2: So the reason why our success has been so good 415 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 2: for people like you, So thank you for sure. 416 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 7: Any other here one question first, Okay, I followed you 417 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 7: from the first episodes, from the Jump and everything else. 418 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 7: For me, your favorite episode when you will bring Rachel 419 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 7: Nichols after the Bable and give you give her the 420 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 7: platform to say what was happening with her and I 421 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 7: think that this is why you have this platform to 422 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 7: give them opportunity to say something, because you're the only 423 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 7: one to give her a chance to get her side out. 424 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 7: Not only that, so this is probably my favorite episode 425 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 7: because of that. And estion for you is about what 426 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 7: do you think about this recent coaches changes, because everyone 427 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 7: if someone win a championship one worst season, they are out. 428 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 7: And now Frank Wogel from five minutes ago is in 429 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 7: the phoenix. 430 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: What do you think about this? 431 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 4: Fests it's a full circle moment with Rachel. We all 432 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 4: right with Rachel that if we was ever put in 433 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 4: a position to help her out in any way, it 434 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 4: was mandatory that we did that. She started both of 435 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 4: us at ESPN with the jumping other things. I've even 436 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 4: still behind Rachel through everything. So to have her to 437 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 4: be able to bring her up and put that position 438 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 4: to work with us, it was only right. 439 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: It was on the right bus to do. 440 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: NBA coaches, nobody is safe. I mean, you win a 441 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: championship and don't perform, you're out. Budenholzer loses and he 442 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: won a championship two or three years ago and he's out. 443 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: All these coaches changing spots, and I think it's now. 444 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: It's because the players make so much money. When we 445 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: first came to the NBA, the coaches were in control. 446 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: The players are in control hands down now. And if 447 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: you don't get along with your star player, you don't produce, 448 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: and you have as that the organization feels like you 449 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: should win with no matter how good you are. 450 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: You know, you get you get. 451 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: Fired, you can they maybe great Papa Bitch is someone 452 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: he played for and coach Spolster over in Miami. You 453 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: don't really get ten yards anymore. You know, those guys 454 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: are both plassed past ten years at their team. But 455 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: that's a rarity not only in our sport, but across 456 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: the board. The easiest person to blame is always going 457 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: to be the coach. Now that's not saying some coaches 458 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: don't deserve it, because some coaches suck playing and simple, 459 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, but sometimes it's just easier instead of picking 460 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: out the players who need to be better. 461 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: At times, let's just blame the coach. 462 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: It's a cutthroat business, but you know, they're paid well, 463 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: just as the players are paid well. 464 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: And I guess it just kind of comes with the territory. 465 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: Another question. 466 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, so, first of all, You've been in the NBA 467 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 8: for a long time, You've been part of championship teams, 468 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 8: You've played for with a lot of real big stars 469 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 8: and other role players and teammates. 470 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: You've had a lot of experience. 471 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 9: So from your experience, from your point of view, whether 472 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 9: you think it's the biggest misconception, I think something that 473 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 9: people don't know about being an NBA play a part 474 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,239 Speaker 9: of your life that maybe people don't know about. It 475 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 9: seems very different to them, because I think people very. 476 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: Often approach it very like I have a simplistic view 477 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: of it. 478 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 9: It's just training, You go through games, and that's you 479 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 9: have a few interviews. 480 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: So what's the biggest probably misconception. 481 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 9: The second part is about the podcast to do a 482 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 9: brilliant job. I think, if you speak for everybody in crature, 483 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 9: we're very proud right be here, and we're very proud 484 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 9: and thankful to Damian who is somewhere here. I think 485 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 9: they're for bringing you guys over here. Your process of 486 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 9: preparing the podcast, how much did it change from the beginning. 487 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 9: In the beginning, I think that was more relaxed and 488 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 9: more medication wise oriented. Now I think maybe you have 489 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 9: a more professional approach. I don't know if that's the 490 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 9: right showays work out. What's the difference there, We'll get it. 491 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 2: The first part. What was the first part? What was 492 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: the first part of your question? 493 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, what's the biggest misconception was something athletes? 494 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean it's just light period, Like, if 495 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 4: your life's not right at home, you're not gonna have 496 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 4: good games. You're not gonna be able to perform. That's 497 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 4: what people don't understand. But athletes are human beings. So 498 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 4: if they come to a game and have an off night, 499 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 4: don't think it's just because they haven't been practicing on 500 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 4: their game. They can be spending weeks in the gym 501 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 4: practicing to make that one shot to make that one 502 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 4: fan happy, but they can have something go wrong at 503 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 4: home or on their way to the game that can 504 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 4: throw off their whole day. 505 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: So athletes are humans. 506 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 4: You're we're expected to be able to take more and 507 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 4: much and more is expected from us because of how 508 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 4: much we get paid and stuff like that. 509 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: But athletes are human. 510 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 4: So when you see them have bad games, don't think 511 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 4: it's as an athlete that doesn't care about the game 512 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 4: but doesn't care about winning. 513 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: They're human, just like everybody else. Yeah, I think that's 514 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: probably right. 515 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: There is the biggest misconception because we go through the 516 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: same thing everyone else goes through. We lose parents, we 517 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: lose family members, we go through divorces, we get in 518 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: trouble and it's blown up. So there's so much that 519 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: goes into being able to focus on our job, you 520 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Because we are paid good money, 521 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: people sometimes think that we're superhuman nothing affects us, when 522 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: it's quite the opposite. You know, it's really hard to 523 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 1: have the world always talking about you, whether it's good 524 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: or bad. So that part is tough. And I think 525 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: another misconception is I think sometimes fans think because guys 526 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: may play on the bench or don't play that much, 527 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: they can't play. Like that's the furthest thing from the truth. 528 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: Like the glass guy on the bench is better than 529 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the world. 530 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: You know, you just happen to. 531 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: Be either in a situation where you're not getting the 532 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: opportunity to play or just the guys in front of 533 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: you or that much better. But it doesn't make them, 534 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: he said, other coaches a hater. It doesn't make them 535 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: any less. And then to your second question. Yeah, we've 536 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: just grown. You know, we've grown from the beginning. Like 537 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: I said, when Brian said, hey, let's do it, we 538 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: didn't know what we were doing, to be honest with you, Like, 539 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: we didn't know what a podcast was, what was going on. 540 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: We just tried to come out and talk and have 541 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: a good time. And obviously, you know, just like when 542 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: we played, we can watch film and kind of see 543 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: how shows win and where we can improve on and may, hey, 544 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: maybe we should we shouldn't smoke that much this time 545 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: because hey, you know, we both were forgetting questions or 546 00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: falling asleep. 547 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: And now I'm going to sleep. Yeah. 548 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, obviously we've grown and and and 549 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: I think it's been great because we started seeing our 550 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: work everywhere, like ESPN would be taking clips of our shows, 551 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: and other shows would be taking clips of our shows 552 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: and our and our edits with we had a great 553 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: we have a great edit team over at Malcolm. Our 554 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: edits would go viral, you know what I mean. And 555 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: I think that's maybe when we started taking it a 556 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: little bit more seriously because we're just like, oh, they're 557 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: really listening, like they're Because we didn't know if it 558 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: was gonna people were gonna listen where people gonna like us, 559 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: Like Jack said, weren't stars, we were role players. 560 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: So we didn't know how we were going to be received. 561 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: We just knew we had to be real and and 562 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: once we kind of started realizing that, man, our voice 563 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: is literally traveling around the world, that's when we started 564 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: realizing like, Okay, hey, you know we can do something 565 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: specialist space and make good money while we're doing it. 566 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: So it's definitely been a learning and we continue to 567 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: learn in this space. 568 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: Good question question over here. Yes, so you're in the 569 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: whole land? 570 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 10: Yes, yes, like in the one Bogdanovic more a little 571 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 10: bit here, you've got Dragic down south to the east, 572 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 10: a little bit, you got Mooti pitch east, you got 573 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 10: your pitch back in the day of a lot of 574 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 10: debats the progression of players from Europe and this area 575 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 10: from when you started playing ball, he sort of the 576 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 10: impression that NBA players had was there a stigma on 577 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 10: foreign players? 578 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: And has that changed? 579 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 10: Obviously now we have to put your tea time WBD 580 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 10: when you first started playing to now, have you seen 581 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 10: a difference in sort of the image with the impression 582 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 10: that NBA players have towards European players. 583 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: Is it more respect now than when you guys started? 584 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: Way more? 585 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: It's not even close from when I was in the 586 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 4: league to now. You know, you had a few guys 587 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 4: come over that could play that that would gain your respect. 588 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: Now you got nbig teams starting their organizations with guys 589 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: from over here. So it's not it's not it's night 590 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 4: and day. But it's great for the game of basketball 591 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 4: because the game is growing, you know, do they want 592 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 4: the game to be global. It's putting a lot of 593 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 4: pressure on guys in the state. They need to work 594 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 4: on their game. Now kids from other countries are growing 595 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: up and being just as talented as them. 596 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 2: So, but it also shows how hard you guys are working. 597 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: You know, it shows how basketball is growing here, and 598 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 4: I say it's you guys taking it. A lot of 599 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 4: guys in the United States are getting opportunities and really 600 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 4: not even working hard to get them. You know a 601 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 4: lot of guys know people, I just got that one 602 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 4: Instagram post, but I know it's ten times harder to 603 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 4: get from over here to over there and to be 604 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 4: MVP like Yoki. So it's harder for you guys and 605 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 4: you get way more credit than they got. You know, 606 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 4: when we first came in the league, it's night and day. 607 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: They got a chance to meet someone who played against 608 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: the Dream Team in ninety two, and I think that 609 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: was kind of obviously showing what we had. But I 610 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: think after that that was a wake of call to 611 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: the rest of the world because after that, it seems 612 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: like every time after that, European players and international players. 613 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: Were getting better and better and better. 614 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: And to keep it real with you, the NBA is 615 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: ran by European players now or international players. You look 616 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: at the last three or four MVPs or all international players, 617 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: all young players that are all. 618 00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: Probably gonna win it again. 619 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: So to Jack's point, I think it's great because I 620 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: think you guys are making us get better, Like we 621 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: have to step our games up now because we know 622 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: that there's thousands of kids that are growing up here, 623 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: if not many of the kids that are growing up 624 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: you know internationally, they want to want to get in 625 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: that spot. 626 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: And for people who. 627 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: Don't know, in the history of the NBA, there's been 628 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: less than five thousand players, less than five thousand players, 629 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: So everybody in the world wants to play in the 630 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: NBA and each season there's only about four hundred to 631 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty players in that league and a 632 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: lot of it is European influx. Now, European players are 633 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: coming over and they're taking jobs because like Jack said, 634 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: American players aren't taking it seriously. So that's why just random, 635 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: but that's why the people are making such a big 636 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: deal about what John Moran is doing because he's a 637 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: young American player that's supposed to kind of carry the 638 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: torch once Lebron and Steph and KD leave. He's supposed 639 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: to be one of those American players that American can 640 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: hang their hat on. So that's why it's such a 641 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: big deal back where we're at of what he's doing 642 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: because again, like I just said, European players are running 643 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: the league, you know what I mean. Mean, so you know, 644 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: America does have pride and they want to do uh, 645 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: they do want to be represented. But to answer your 646 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: original question, the yeah, the respect has gone way up 647 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: because it's it's it's definitely been earned and it's just 648 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: and again I credit you guys for making the guys 649 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: back at home better. 650 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: Question Q Hi Jack, I love the show. Thank you. 651 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: What the COVID episode like eight times. So yeah, every 652 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: time I get a goosebumps, So nice jump. My question 653 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: is pretty silly. Want to look, what did you guys 654 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: last of one on one? And who won? 655 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: Have we ever played one on one? I've ever played? Yeah, No, 656 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: I think we've had one on one. Who can smoke 657 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: the most? But I don't think we've ever played one 658 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: on one? 659 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: Maybe it depends. 660 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: I don't really smoke that much anymore, so I'd say 661 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: he would probably win now. But back when we were 662 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: both in our heyday, we were pretty impressive. We just 663 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: smoke until we passed out. 664 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: It was even back in the day. Yeah, when we 665 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: first started hanging out. You know. The one thing about Jack. 666 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: Jack and I became really close all the shirt the story. 667 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: I lost my mom to cancer in two thousand and seven, 668 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: So she was diagnosed November first and died November twenty six, 669 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: twenty seventh, So within twenty six days she died. 670 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: And this is right after we've had that. 671 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: We believe Run with the Beaten Dallas is the very 672 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: next season, and Jack and I became super close because 673 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: he was the one that always came to check on me, 674 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: whether he'd bring me food or he would just come 675 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: over and talk to me and smoke, and we just 676 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: kind of smoked our pains away, you know. But before 677 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: even before that, like we had a unique team where 678 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry for talking about smoking if there's any 679 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: kids here, but this is just really how we moved. 680 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: We would go from practice and go to jack Spot 681 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: and watch game film and just smoke and talk about 682 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: the game like we wanted it that bad. And you know, 683 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: I think you can kind of tell what that team 684 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 1: we made a historical run. But cannabis has always kind 685 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: of been a part of our journey together. And I'm 686 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: just happy now that the NBA and leagues across I 687 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: can't say the world, but you know, leagues across the 688 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: United States have kind of woken up and under standing, 689 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, the importance of cannabis and how it can 690 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: be beneficial from everyone from children to our grandparents. So 691 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: no one on one, but we've we've had a smoke off, 692 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: and I'd probably say back on our heyday it was tied, 693 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: but now he would win, and if we played. 694 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 4: One on one, the game would never end because we 695 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 4: both knew using all our files and probably like the file, yeah, 696 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 4: we probably end up fighting, so the game. 697 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, now we want to welcome to the stage. 698 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: Welcome to the stage. 699 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: Man, one of the most gracious hosts I've ever met. 700 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: So when I got a chance to play against uh 701 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: in the NBA, and then through Steven Espinoza ran into 702 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: him in Las Vegas and got a chance to reconnect 703 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: and hang out a little bit, and and next thing 704 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: I know, we're coming to Croatia. I'm like to do 705 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: what to talk about basketball? They're like, yeah, bring your wives. 706 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, sign me up. So welcome to the show. Damian, 707 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to mispronounce your last name, Rudish. 708 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for obviously having us out here 709 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: and you know, the Sunset Media Festival. You know, when 710 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: you started explaining to me, I thought it was incredible. 711 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: I've been in your ear since I've been here that 712 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: we got to bring to the United States and I 713 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: want to help you do that. Can you tell the 714 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: people how that got started in your mission behind it. 715 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 3: Appreciate you guys having me, really hoping you enjoyed this 716 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: week in Croatia, and I'm very proud that we have 717 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 3: you here, and you know, very happy that you guys 718 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: are taking your game internationally as well. So the whole 719 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 3: idea behind the Sunset Sports Media Festival came from Petradovich, 720 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: you know, the VP of CBS Sports, and he said, 721 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 3: I want us to do a sports business festival in 722 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 3: Croatia that everyone wants to come to. You know, like 723 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 3: a lot of these are just boring. They bore you 724 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 3: with pds, with powerpoints. You know, it's a corporate event. 725 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: We want to do something funky, something all, something that's 726 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: very you know, people are going to have fomo if 727 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 3: they don't come here. You know, we want to have 728 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 3: all the biggest stars, all the biggest experts in the 729 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 3: sports media industry and sports business. Have them come here, 730 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: enjoy you know, the beautiful sea, the beautiful coast, you know, 731 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 3: enjoy the networking opportunities we can provide and just you know, 732 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 3: keep the festival growing. 733 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been great, from the food to the people 734 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: to the views. 735 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: We've definitely enjoyed it. 736 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: Born in Croustia, when did you find basketball And was 737 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: there anyone as you were growing up who you kind 738 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: of look to in the space as you know, admiration 739 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: or someone you looked up to or wanted to be like, yeah, well. 740 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 3: I started playing because my older brother, you know, younger 741 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: brother does, but the older brother, you know, he follows 742 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: what the older brother does. 743 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: Right. 744 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 3: So my brother is even is seven years older than me, 745 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: and he had Jordan posters all over the wall. 746 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 2: So it was done pretty much after that. 747 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 3: You know, obviously be in the Croatian Tony kok Cutch 748 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 3: and Drashen Petro, which are. 749 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: The first guys that come to mind. 750 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: My first idols and guys that are already watching, especially 751 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 3: Tony Kook Clutch try to you know, follow their footsteps 752 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 3: and dream big. And that's how it started. I picked 753 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 3: up the game in basketballhen I was seven and never 754 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 3: looked back. 755 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: I got a crazy story. I literally DM Tony Kuk 756 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: coach last night. Never had the opportunity to meet him. 757 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: A huge fan of him, and he responded and I 758 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: asked if he was here because I was like, hey, 759 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: you know, we'll try to fly you out here and talk. 760 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: It's like no, Unfortunately I just left for Chicago. But 761 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: my son is a huge fan of your show. I'm like, well, 762 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: it's only right you got to come on the show. 763 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: So hopefully we'll get Tony. 764 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, I hope so he would be an incredible 765 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 3: guests and definitely one of the greatest creation basketball players 766 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 3: in history for sure. 767 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 2: Agreed. 768 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: Agreed, you recalled, you know, one of the greatest wing 769 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: players to ever come out here. 770 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: You out of here. 771 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: You played internationally from two thousand and two to twenty fourteen. 772 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: When you finally made the jump to the NBA. What 773 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: was that like? 774 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: You played, You've been playing professionally here for you know, 775 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: ten plus years, you finally make the jump to I 776 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: think what every boy that puts the ball in his 777 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: hand is the dream of being in the NBA. 778 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: What was that like for you? 779 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 3: It was very weird, to be honest, because I didn't 780 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 3: make the NBA till very late. 781 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: You know. 782 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 3: I got to the NBA when I was twenty eight, 783 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 3: so I was undrafted. I went and applied for the 784 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 3: draft when I was twenty two, and no one picked me. 785 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 3: So I was just kind of crushed and went back 786 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: overseas and I was like, all right, I'll just build 787 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 3: my career and see. 788 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 2: What I can do. 789 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 3: And then when I was twenty eight, you know, I 790 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 3: played well obviously in the ACB and a team called 791 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 3: the kais that I Spanish league is really fantastic. 792 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: So I was fortunate enough to. 793 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 3: Do well over there, and all of a sudden, my 794 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 3: agent said there was interest from MBA. So I was like, 795 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 3: that's fantastic, but I really won't believe it until it happens. 796 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: But it was good. He kept, you know, saying there's interest. 797 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 3: I said, I don't want to go there and try out, 798 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,439 Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to get dream crushed again. 799 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 3: I'm having a good career here in Europe, made a 800 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 3: good name for myself. And then in the end I 801 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 3: really showed, you know, fantastic interest, and Larry Bird started 802 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 3: asking around, and I was like, Okay, if Larry Bird 803 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 3: is asking around, this might be something serious there. And 804 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,479 Speaker 3: we set up one workout and actually a crazy story 805 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 3: I got to share with you guys. You know, how 806 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 3: you work out for a team. It was normally like 807 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 3: three or four guys. It's like three on three or 808 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 3: two and two. So I'm expecting like other people to 809 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 3: be there, right, So I'm getting ready for the workout 810 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 3: and I'm walking in the gym and the practice cility 811 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 3: and there's no one there, believe, and there's thirty execs 812 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 3: on the bleachers. 813 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 2: Larry Bird is sitting in the chair and like. 814 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 3: Fifteen members of the coaching staff and Frank on the court, 815 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 3: and I'm by myself and I'm thinking, like. 816 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 11: All right, just do or die. So let's see what 817 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 11: we can do. That's dope, that's dope. It worked out well. 818 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 11: What was your welcome to the NBA moment? 819 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 3: I remember like it was yesterday, to be honest, man, 820 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 3: we all had one, and mine was in practice, I 821 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 3: would say like five days in and Donald Sloan dunked 822 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 3: at me so hard. It was on fast break, and 823 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it. I was like, there's no way 824 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 3: he's dunking on me like that, and he just smashed it. 825 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 3: The whole team started laughing and we stopped practice. I 826 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 3: was I didn't know what to do with myself. I 827 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 3: was like, all right, I just got to take it. 828 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 3: And that was it. That was my five days in. 829 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 3: That was my welcome to the NBA moment. And then 830 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 3: after that, actually one of the first games we played. 831 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, like to add on to the story. 832 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 3: Like there's no bumps in the NBA like that, you know, 833 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 3: like the fifteen guy and the roster is really gonna, 834 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 3: you know, kick your ass if it happens. So you know, 835 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 3: there was a lot of guys there that I wasn't 836 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 3: familiar with when I got there. You know, so we're 837 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 3: playing the Bulls and Doug McDermott drops thirteen on me 838 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 3: in like four minutes and TODJ. Gibson Jokim Norse said 839 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 3: in the screams, I'm fighting for my life and they did. 840 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 3: They said, so he's just shooting the balls going in. 841 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, this can't be happening like a lot like this, So, 842 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 3: you know, coach pulled me out the game. 843 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, you know, that's welcome to 844 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 2: d NA. You gotta wake up. 845 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Paul George suffered a brotal leg Andrew when you 846 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 4: was there, what was the vibe of the team and 847 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 4: what could have been if he wouldn't have got hurt. 848 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 3: That was very unfortunate, man. I mean, in some way 849 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 3: it worked out for me because I got the minutes. 850 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 3: You know, it was my rookie year and I had 851 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 3: a chance of playing, which is something that rarely happens. So, 852 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: you know, thanks to coach Vogel, he found me in 853 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 3: a roster spot, I mean a rotation spot actually, so 854 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 3: I played, you know, as part of the second unit, 855 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 3: and I had my role. I had my shots at 856 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 3: you know, the set players that we ran for me, 857 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 3: but obviously not having Paul George there, you know, really 858 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 3: on all their chances for anything. And you got to 859 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 3: think they're coming off of you know, Eastern Conference Finals, they're, 860 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 3: you know, one of the hottest teams in the league. 861 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 3: And he suffers a leg injury and I'm like, I mean, 862 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 3: you know, God knows what's going to happen. 863 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 2: With us now. 864 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 3: And we actually had a chance of making the playoffs 865 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 3: in the last game of the season, the last game 866 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 3: of the regular season, were playing Memphis away and if 867 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 3: we beat him, we go to the playoffs. And Marcasol 868 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 3: has like forty twenty ten and eight. Ooh, I mean 869 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 3: it felt like it, you know, it was really so 870 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 3: it just went home. And that was, you know, a 871 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 3: disastrous season. I wouldn't call it disasters, it was you know, 872 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 3: I wish we would have made the playoffs. And then 873 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 3: after that I got traded. 874 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 4: What was your favorite moment playing in the NBA, Like 875 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 4: you have a moment where you scored, you know on Somebody, 876 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 4: I done Somebody was one of your favorite moments? 877 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 3: And I actually had two. One was hitting the game 878 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 3: winner against Orlando. When to play for the Pacers, and 879 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 3: I scored sixteen points in the last quarter and we 880 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 3: were down and we kind of lost seven games in 881 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 3: a row and the team was doing really bad, and 882 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 3: I missed my first couple of shots, and Coach Fogel 883 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 3: just you know, kept me in a game. He kept 884 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 3: me in the game, and I really, honestly, I couldn't 885 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 3: believe it. I was like, all right, I mean there 886 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 3: must be something there, like obviously, you know, I can't 887 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 3: get any worse than this, And shots started dropping. 888 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 2: Hand got hot. You already know what that feels like. 889 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 3: So you know, it was the last quarter, and ended 890 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,479 Speaker 3: up hitting a game winner off of George Hill pass, 891 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 3: and then the whole team greet him in the locker room. 892 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: You know, everyone's sharing and so happy for me. It 893 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 3: was a real celebration. It felt like we won the 894 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 3: title because it was, you know, a terminal season. And 895 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 3: then the second moment was guarding Kobe. You know, it 896 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 3: was surreal, just sure right, He's like a spider, you know, 897 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 3: making his net around you, and it was it was surreal, 898 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 3: you know, just had him on the switch a couple 899 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 3: of times and it was like, all right, let's go. 900 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 2: So that was really fantastic. You mentioned Dov camera. 901 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 4: You had a story about KG when you played with 902 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 4: Minnesota in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. 903 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 3: There's a lot of kids. Which ones we can say 904 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 3: and which ones we can but you know, playing with 905 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 3: him was definitely one of the highlights of my career. 906 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 2: Man. 907 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 3: You know, Kevin Garnett is one of the most special 908 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 3: people I've ever been around. You guys are fortunate enough 909 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 3: to be around him often, and you know, what I 910 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 3: can say about him is just what I remember is 911 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 3: the passion and the energy and the storytelling, Like he 912 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 3: was really big on sharing his experience and you know, 913 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 3: passing along to the future generations. So you got to think, like, 914 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 3: we're finishing practice at two pm, right and I'm thinking I'm. 915 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 2: Gonna be home for lunch at three and four point thirty. 916 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 3: I'm in the locker room listening to the stories and 917 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 3: there's fourteen of us. Ricky Rubio is there, Tayshaun Frantz 918 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 3: is there, Andre Miller is there. People are not going 919 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 3: home because KG is out there, bullhead, all sweaty, all 920 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 3: upset because someone said that I don't know someone is 921 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 3: better than Jordan and no, you know people say it 922 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 3: just to provoke him, because you know he says it 923 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 3: when you know anybody says anybody's better than that. Experience 924 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 3: was surreal, man. So it's very fortunate to be able 925 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 3: to live. 926 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: That's tell me your thoughts on the growth that we 927 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: touched on and we had our Q and A, but 928 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 1: just of international players in the league. You know, obviously 929 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: Giannis an MVP and a champion, Luca's rain, Luca's on 930 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: the way, we have Victor the first pick in the draft, 931 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: just so much great talent. What are your thoughts in 932 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: how proud of you are the growth of the international 933 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: players in the mark they've been able to make in 934 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:53,439 Speaker 1: the league. 935 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,439 Speaker 3: I couldn't be more proud, to be honest, especially coming 936 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 3: from Croatian, from this region that you know, yielded so 937 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 3: many NBA players that made a big impact history and 938 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 3: now even more with Luka and Jokichen. You know, some 939 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,919 Speaker 3: of my best friends that I and friendships I made 940 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 3: along the way in the NBA Nicolauch obviously you know 941 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 3: who was an All Star and them and Abiellies that 942 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 3: won the championship with the Golden State Warriors, Riky Rubio, 943 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 3: a lot of you know, great people and you know, 944 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 3: fantastic players. But the league has changed so much, right, 945 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 3: I mean now, even when I was there, it was 946 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 3: almost one thirty international and now you have the first 947 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 3: pick in the draft and it's crazy. I couldn't be 948 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 3: more proud. Like I said, I feel like it's really 949 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 3: good for the league, especially, you know, taking. 950 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 2: The NBA brand all around the world. 951 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 3: The game, it grows, the game you already know, so 952 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 3: looking forward to seeing how it's going to develop in 953 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 3: the future. 954 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: Even more so the transition from professional sports, not just basketball, 955 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: but when it's over for an athlete, sometimes there's slip ups, habits, 956 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: people go broke. How are you able to successfully transition 957 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: from your playing career to business? 958 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 3: It wasn't easy, man, I'm not gonna lie. You already 959 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 3: know you've all been through it. So those first couple 960 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 3: of months when the phone stops ringing and you know, 961 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 3: you got to find a reason we get out of 962 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 3: the house. It's like, all right, am I. 963 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 2: Going to work out? 964 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 3: Am I going to go get some coffee or this 965 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 3: and that. But to be honest, I try to use 966 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 3: the most of my time and just relax and do 967 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 3: the things I never did, win skiing, when you know, 968 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 3: had all the lunches, all the night life enjoyed. And 969 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 3: then after a while, after like nine months, it was 970 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 3: like all right, now what so, you know, I enrolled 971 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 3: into business school and through that had a great fortune 972 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,240 Speaker 3: of meeting you know, Pete Radovich and my incredible partners, 973 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 3: who said, you know, helped set this festival up, and 974 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 3: you know, through that we just kind of kept the 975 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 3: ball rolling and kick started this project and it's been 976 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 3: going fantastic. And I have to say this a real 977 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 3: moment because Pete and I spoke about this, you know, 978 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 3: leading up to the show one year ago, when we 979 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 3: were wrapping up the first edition of the conference, we said, 980 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 3: you know what if we bring Stephen Jackson Ben Barnes here, 981 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 3: and you know, thanks to Stephen Espinoza and Janina, two 982 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 3: of the most beautiful people, you know, some of the 983 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 3: most beautiful people I know and dear friends, we've been 984 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 3: able to make it happen. And we had a vision like, hey, 985 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 3: you know, we're we have guys set up and his 986 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 3: sunset and the backdrop, and one year later, here we 987 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 3: are and I couldn't be more happier. So, you know, 988 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 3: thank you guys for thinking of us. We appreciate that. 989 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,479 Speaker 2: Quick hitters. Now, just first thing to come to mind. 990 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: Let us know what you think top five most impactful 991 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: international players of all time in your opinion? 992 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 2: Oh, impactful, impactful best? Yeah, you know. 993 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 3: Obviously you know Drajan Petrovich one of the guys that 994 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 3: comes to mind first. Him and Vladi Divas probably were 995 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 3: the trailblazer that set the pace for the you know, 996 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 3: europe players in the nineties. The bonus bonus people forget about, 997 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 3: especially now with Jokis throwing all these crazy passes. You know, 998 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 3: the bonus was was doing that first Tony Kukos incredible 999 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 3: and then you had that generation you know, Parker, Yousoul 1000 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 3: and Vitski. 1001 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 2: So Dirk, you got to. 1002 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 3: Put the Dirk there, right, international guys Obviously, if you 1003 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 3: got to pick one guy the greatest international player ever, 1004 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 3: I was still picked Dirk still, you know, but right. 1005 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 2: Now, does anyone have a chance in your opinion to 1006 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,959 Speaker 2: surpass I think so, you know, we've seen crazier things happen. 1007 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 3: Obviously, that title was so tough, and that's what makes 1008 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 3: his position there, you know, even even more established. But 1009 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 3: I think we're going to see some stuff in the future. Man, 1010 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 3: these young guys coming up, they're ready to do some 1011 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 3: crazy stuff. And obviously, you know, things that Luka, Doncics 1012 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 3: and Yolks have been doing have been surreal, so you 1013 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 3: know they're up there. It's just a matter of if 1014 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 3: they're going to win the title. You know, it increases 1015 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,959 Speaker 3: their eyes obviously, you know how that goes. 1016 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 2: Got to win. We locked Dirk up. 1017 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 4: I don't think we can lock yok at y'all lukaup No, Yeah, 1018 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 4: we locked Yrk Cup twice. 1019 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 2: It was a team ever, m J Lebron Kobe rank them? 1020 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 2: MJ Kobe Lebron? Just how I got now? Tell us why? 1021 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: Because I think often Kobe is one, and obviously he's 1022 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 1: gone and rest in peace, but I think for some 1023 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: reason people always want to jump him and automatically compare 1024 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: Lebron and MJ. 1025 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 2: Why is Kobe number two? To you? 1026 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 3: Honestly, it goes back to the titles, right they're I mean, 1027 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 3: you know you're gonna put Jordan first, obviously, but I 1028 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 3: really have a problem with Kobe being overlooked. I mean, 1029 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 3: Lebron James is, you know, probably going to be the 1030 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 3: greatest score in history of basketball for many years to come. 1031 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 3: So no doubt that the numbers are going to be 1032 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 3: on their side. You can talk about the fear factor 1033 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 3: all you want. You know, there's a lot of narrative 1034 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 3: now with guys saying like, oh, guys feared Kobe, Guys 1035 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 3: fear Jordan. They don't feel Lebron. I don't really necessarily 1036 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 3: think that's true. You know, I've seen him first handed. Yes, 1037 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 3: it makes me definitely scar so I can only yeah, 1038 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 3: I can only speak for my experience. 1039 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 2: But we had this discussion. You know, we might as 1040 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 2: well put it out there. 1041 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 3: You know, I'm ready to argue with Kobe, even more 1042 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 3: talented player than Jordan, you know, so if they're ready 1043 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 3: for that. I don't know if they're ready for that discussion. 1044 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 3: But it always goes back to MJ. It always goes 1045 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 3: back to the rings. And definitely fine with that obviously, 1046 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 3: you know guy I idolized growing up. 1047 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 2: So a good discussion to have, though, right, Absolutely great discussion. 1048 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: If you can rewatch any player in their prime and 1049 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: you can sit courtside for that game, which game would 1050 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:57,880 Speaker 1: it be? 1051 00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 2: Oh, in their Prime. 1052 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 3: It would have to be one the Kobe games, one 1053 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 3: of the Kobe Games, or maybe one of the MJ games. 1054 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 2: Huh maybe like MJ Final. 1055 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 3: Games Game six is some of those those are crazy man, 1056 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 3: Kobe getting eighty one, Kobe getting eighty one. 1057 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 2: I mean there's so many it's picking truth, right, A 1058 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 2: lot of buckets. 1059 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 4: So yeah, if you stuck on the island, what three 1060 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 4: shows or movies? 1061 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 3: It would be in rotation wire number one? Nice I 1062 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 3: put wire number one. I'm gonna go with Seinfeld number two. Nice, 1063 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 3: I love Seinfeld. Number three would be let me think 1064 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 3: you got me there? I mean I love breaking bad 1065 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 3: sopranos like you one is good. Yeah if you agree 1066 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 3: with that, Yeah, I love one of them. 1067 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1068 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: If you can post one message on a billboard for 1069 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: not only your country to see, but the world to see, 1070 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: what would your message? 1071 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 2: It could be a word, or it could be a slogan. 1072 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 2: What would one message you'd want to send to the world. 1073 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 2: Be nice to each other, nice to one another. 1074 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 3: Man, just spread joy, spread positive energy, being pathic, and 1075 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 3: you know, I think the world needs it now more 1076 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 3: than ever. I feel like positive energy and love it 1077 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 3: just transmits and it always comes back. So I mean, 1078 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 3: that's the first thing that comes to mind. If you could. 1079 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 4: See one person on our show, who would it be? 1080 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 4: But you have to help us get your answer on 1081 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 4: the show. 1082 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 2: And you know a lot of people too, So I'm 1083 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 2: ready for this answer. 1084 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:31,240 Speaker 3: Man, Dirk, Dirk, Dirk, Jordan. 1085 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 2: You got Jordan's Now are you gonna call Jordan? We 1086 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,879 Speaker 2: know people that know people, Steve, and we already got work. 1087 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 3: So you know, we got you guys here, So I 1088 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 3: don't you know, we dream big, We dream big, and 1089 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 3: I'll dream big with you guys. So what were you 1090 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 3: guys want? I'm a big fan of the show anyway, 1091 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 3: so you know, really hoping. 1092 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 11: For all the best best dumb man we wanted to 1093 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 11: think we're early. He has to say somebody, Okay, who 1094 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 11: is the person person to get on the show? Yes, 1095 00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 11: you know who you got to get on the show, 1096 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 11: Bill Burr. 1097 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 2: Bill Bird is a comedian. Bill Burr is hilarious. It's hilarious, dude. 1098 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 3: So I feel like you too, I mean two of 1099 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 3: you and Bill Bird, Like, let me know if that's 1100 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 3: a good idea. 1101 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 4: Knows Bill Burr, no one would expect him on our show, 1102 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 4: but it would be classic, say. 1103 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: That yes, Domo again, we wanted to thank you and 1104 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: and really thank your country. 1105 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 2: You guys have woken us with open arms. 1106 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: People have been great, the food has been great, It's 1107 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,240 Speaker 1: been beautiful. 1108 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 2: Some of the most beautiful sunsets in the world. 1109 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: Someone told me that Alfred Hitchcock stayed in a hotel 1110 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: down there and wrote a handwritten letter and left it 1111 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: on the nightstand and said Croatias have the most beautiful 1112 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: sunsets in the world. 1113 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,919 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And as you can see, I mean he wasn't lying. 1114 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 3: It was every day, hundreds and hundreds of people they 1115 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 3: gathered here and they just stare at this beautiful sun. 1116 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 3: And we're so happy to be living in this beautiful country. 1117 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 3: And I couldn't be more proud that we showed it 1118 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 3: to you. 1119 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 2: Guys. I'm moving to. 1120 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,880 Speaker 1: We want to thank you Pete Stephen, everyone behind the 1121 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 1: scenes that we didn't get a chance to meet to 1122 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: say thank you for having us. Thank you guys thus 1123 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 1: for showing up tonight, and we look forward to the 1124 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: rest of the conference. 1125 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 2: Man, We appreciate you. Thank you guys for being here 1126 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 2: as much love, Thank you, thanks so appreciate it. Thank 1127 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 2: you guys, appreciate it. 1128 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: Man, we just wrapped our panel at the Sunset Sports 1129 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: Media Festival. Man, We've had a great time in Croatia. 1130 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 2: Jack, what's your thought? Beautiful place? Man? I enjoyed the 1131 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:33,240 Speaker 2: great food. 1132 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 4: It's the place that I definitely want to come back 1133 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 4: and visit. 1134 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 2: Might even buy a house here. 1135 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: Can you tell the fans while you chose to take 1136 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: a minivan instead of hopping in this private plane with 1137 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: us in the island hop Yeah one. 1138 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 4: As y'all know, I work hard to live good and 1139 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 4: to ride good. The plane was entirely too small for five. 1140 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 4: I got claustrophovic, so I'd rather drive. And then the 1141 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,240 Speaker 4: good thing about the drive, the scenery was a beautiful 1142 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 4: scenery and I blew it down the whole way. 1143 00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: So you would rather take five hours on the dri 1144 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: I've been twenty minutes on the flight. 1145 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 2: Just to smoke and be comfortable. I sure will. 1146 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: And you heard it first year Man, We've got a 1147 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: great time to create. Your shout out to our man, 1148 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: Domo and everybody who made this trip, pot the showtime bosses. 1149 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 2: You guys know who you are. Malca. 1150 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,359 Speaker 1: Man, we're in a fucking Croatia for a podcast, Man, 1151 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 1: Level up,