WEBVTT - Pop The Question Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there again, everybody, Amy and TJ here coming to

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<v Speaker 1>you from a studio in a cold New York City

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<v Speaker 1>where we are just a couple of days away from Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, it's beginning to fill a lot like Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been brit Oh. See if you could see TG

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<v Speaker 2>right now, he's shaking his head at me and his

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<v Speaker 2>eyes were kind of closed. But I think you were

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<v Speaker 2>rolling them too.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you could see the listener right now. They

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<v Speaker 1>were doing the exact same thing once they heard you

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<v Speaker 1>say it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love that song. I'm going to be sad

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<v Speaker 2>when the Christmas music stops.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I'll have the biggest smile on my face. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we are back here. This is our second episode this week,

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<v Speaker 1>our second brand new episode. We told you last episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, we were going to start doing two

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<v Speaker 1>episodes a week at least for the rest of this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and part of that was getting the last one at least,

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<v Speaker 1>was answering your questions. Again, we haven't seen it's ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of time, and in the entest we got so many

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<v Speaker 1>questions that we wanted to get to as many as possible,

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<v Speaker 1>as mean as we could, so instead of just doing

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<v Speaker 1>one episode of it, we're doing too.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, you ready to go, Let's do it round two.

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<v Speaker 3>Andy Lee asks TJ. You mentioned receiving a threat in

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<v Speaker 3>the first episode, which sort of implies that you were

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<v Speaker 3>the target of the photos released. Will you continue this discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said all I am going to say about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened, Oh you were threatened, and it seems that

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<v Speaker 1>someone made good on that threat, and that's it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm can do about it now. And they're sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>in this place, and look, don't don't have any ill

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<v Speaker 1>will or who harbor any negative feelings about it. People

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<v Speaker 1>have their motivations and nothing we could do. But if

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<v Speaker 1>whatever happened needed to happen to land us in this place,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to look at it in that way, and

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<v Speaker 1>we are where we want to be, need to be,

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<v Speaker 1>and should be. And if that was a catalyst for it, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly wish no ill will towards anybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>So Holly asks, my question is why didn't you guys

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<v Speaker 3>both speak out right away? It bothered me that you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't go hard at the allegations right from the start.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Holly, it bothered us too. And I think maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it would have been better had we done that, But

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<v Speaker 2>what we were trying to do was keep our jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>We did have press releases ready to go that we

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<v Speaker 2>had written that day, and even through that initial first day,

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<v Speaker 2>first couple of days, obviously we went back on the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when we were temporarily allegedly temporarily taken off the

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<v Speaker 2>air to let things cool down, we were still hopeful

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<v Speaker 2>for that entire.

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<v Speaker 4>Was it six weeks, eight weeks that.

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<v Speaker 2>We would be going back to work. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>knew that as the days and weeks went on, it

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<v Speaker 2>was getting less and less likely. Our hearts, our guts,

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<v Speaker 2>our minds, everything about us wanted to speak out. But

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<v Speaker 2>once we didn't speak out the initial first few days,

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<v Speaker 2>at what point do you then it got really hard?

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<v Speaker 2>And this wasn't in my wheelhouse or in yours. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a I'm not a I've never had to do

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<v Speaker 2>press on myself or be a publicist for myself. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>never been in a situation like this, So I was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to follow what other people were telling me. The

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<v Speaker 2>right thing to do was.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been holding on as as you were talking, Andy,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked, I pulled up a draft. We've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this for a while. It's there, but there's a

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<v Speaker 1>draft email in my inbox right now. In my draft

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<v Speaker 1>box from November thirtieth, twenty twenty two. That draft is

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<v Speaker 1>say that is the exact day that it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was released or the pictures were released.

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<v Speaker 1>That stuff was released. This draft was never sent as

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<v Speaker 1>an email because of what she just described. This is

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<v Speaker 1>so wild. I'm reading it two different statements. We decided

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<v Speaker 1>not to really statement together. Instead, it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be two separate She would have hers, I would have mine.

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<v Speaker 1>And the email as I look in bold letters and

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<v Speaker 1>underlined capital letters, it says Amy and it quotes my

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<v Speaker 1>divorce is nearly finalized after we decided to separate. CJ

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<v Speaker 1>and I have been friends for years, and our relationship

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<v Speaker 1>has evolved only in recent weeks. I asked for privacy

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<v Speaker 1>for my family as we continue to heal. In quote

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<v Speaker 1>that was Robot's statement that was never released. Under that

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<v Speaker 1>bold letters, capital letters, TJ underlined this was mine. After

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<v Speaker 1>month long separation. I'm in the final stage of my divorce,

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<v Speaker 1>a process that has been difficult in my family, and

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<v Speaker 1>for their sake, had hoped to keep private. I have

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<v Speaker 1>leaned on my closest friend during this painful stretch, and

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<v Speaker 1>very recently that friendship became more out of respect for

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<v Speaker 1>my family. I am requesting privacy at this time. That

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<v Speaker 1>never saw the light of day, and it's never been

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<v Speaker 1>heard until this moment. Andy and I see the look

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<v Speaker 1>on your face, and maybe some people will have that

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<v Speaker 1>same reaction. But we asked, we were ready to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got the breaks put on that, and we

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<v Speaker 1>could have moved. I guess we could have done if

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<v Speaker 1>we want, but we were trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To keep our jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So to answer the question that is that is why, gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so hard? Adria asks, why does Tea Chase still

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<v Speaker 3>not follow Amy on Instagram?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I would like to hear this. I

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<v Speaker 2>have tried and it hasn't. It hasn't worked.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I'm going to stick with the theme

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<v Speaker 1>of looking up drafts in my why love this? I

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<v Speaker 1>am not kidding you all.

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<v Speaker 2>This This is are you going to get into who

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<v Speaker 2>you do follows?

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<v Speaker 4>It seems creepy, but then it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I follow one person on Instagram and there's a reason, Simon,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was the daughter of a really good friend

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<v Speaker 1>I had back in my scene in days. But she

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<v Speaker 1>helped me. My friend helped me set up my Instagram account.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how do you do that? And how do

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<v Speaker 1>you follow somebody? So initially just said just follow my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter as an example, right, it's kids like eleven years

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<v Speaker 1>old too, But at the time she was little, but

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<v Speaker 1>they had an Instagram account for her. She said, just

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<v Speaker 1>follow her. It was just to set it up, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I never started following anybody else. So now it's

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<v Speaker 1>just funny to me. So I don't want to follow

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<v Speaker 1>anybody because it would break the tradition of having just

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<v Speaker 1>that one person I follow.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you were going to follow one other person,

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<v Speaker 2>who would it be?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably my sister.

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<v Speaker 4>I walked round.

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<v Speaker 1>But again I'm thinking about this, Andy, because I have drafts.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have a draft email I keep that says

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas in the subject line, and I have certain people

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<v Speaker 1>listed for potential Christmas gifts, and I have your your

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<v Speaker 1>thing here and it's a bunch of stuff listed.

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<v Speaker 2>But follow Amy on Insta that would be a Christmas gift.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to see what happens December twenty fifth.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, I'm not going to do it now that this

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<v Speaker 1>is out, Now that they were doing this, okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually listed. It's funny to ask the question that

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<v Speaker 1>it is actually that big of a thing between us,

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<v Speaker 1>and it bothers her feet like just empty, Yeah, kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't sit and scan through social media

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<v Speaker 1>and look through.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's oh, is there judgment there in your eyes?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not judgment. That's just a difference you and

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<v Speaker 1>I do two We Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to scroll through Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So the point it really one of my favorite. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>the phone can bring you closer to somebody one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>miles away and take you farther away from the person

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in the next room with you. That's her. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting right there with her, and she she can't do

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<v Speaker 1>two things at one time. That's not saying not to

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<v Speaker 1>be offensive there, I'm saying, you focus on this one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get you to focus on something else. So

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<v Speaker 1>I know to step away, let her have her moment,

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<v Speaker 1>let her do her wordle. What's the new one?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I like wordle. It's all the New York Times games.

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<v Speaker 2>We do connections, connections, yes, I love and then the

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<v Speaker 2>mini crossword and so I actually I actually have a

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<v Speaker 2>group of girls, my daughters are on to. It's we

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<v Speaker 2>call it girdle girls who do wordle.

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<v Speaker 1>He's laughing because things it's clever.

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<v Speaker 2>Girdle next Chaine and every day we all send each

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<v Speaker 2>other the results of and he makes so much fun

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<v Speaker 2>of me. But I am sharpening my brain. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I am fifty. As you pointed out, I got a

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<v Speaker 2>few years on you, So I got to keep that

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<v Speaker 2>mind sharp.

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<v Speaker 1>You're sharpening your brain. I'm sharpening the knives for what's

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<v Speaker 1>coming at us. But you play your.

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<v Speaker 3>Games all right, kay? Asks when did doctor jen find

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<v Speaker 3>out about your relationship? The three of you had great

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<v Speaker 3>chemistry on the show. And did she ever suspect anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I will say doctor Ashton is somebody that I told.

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<v Speaker 1>She might be one of the first I think I

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<v Speaker 1>told her about the divorce. She is one I think

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<v Speaker 1>I told about the divorce before I even told my parents.

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<v Speaker 2>We were going to her wedding. Yeah, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be questions why did I not bring my ex?

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<v Speaker 2>Why did he not bring his ax? And so we

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<v Speaker 2>were going to her wedding. It was the night before

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<v Speaker 2>the New York City Marathon, so This is just what

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<v Speaker 2>a week or two before the tabloids went ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>show these pictures of us together.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a few timeline there. This was only a

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<v Speaker 1>few days before we started being followed because the story

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<v Speaker 1>didn't come out to could remember her wedding like no

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<v Speaker 1>remember fifth or right?

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<v Speaker 2>We went to her wedding together, and so I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there might have been some raised eyebrows. But we needed

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<v Speaker 2>to tell her. She already knew that I was getting divorced,

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<v Speaker 2>but you went ahead and told her beforehand, just so

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<v Speaker 2>that it wouldn't be it would be unusual that we would,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not bring what you would think was your

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<v Speaker 2>spouse to a wedding. So she did find out about that, but.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't tell her ahead of time about our actual relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't I don't know that she was suspicious.

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<v Speaker 2>She never said anything to me, She never asked me

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<v Speaker 2>any questions, so I don't believe she was.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Joy asks do you think if not for the social

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<v Speaker 3>media fodder, would you guys have kept your jobs?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, without a doubt. It was explained to us

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<v Speaker 2>that it was the distraction, and I don't think it

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<v Speaker 2>was necessarily social media. I think it was the tabloids specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just it's interesting to me that publications that

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<v Speaker 2>are widely viewed as tabloids or not something that you

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<v Speaker 2>can rely upon, could have that big of an impact

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<v Speaker 2>on our careers that we had spent decades creating and establishing.

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<v Speaker 2>That was shocking to me. But that is the reason,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think because social media then people share those stories.

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<v Speaker 2>The two combined, yes, created a perfect storm where we

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<v Speaker 2>lost our jobs. It wasn't because of anything technical, it

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<v Speaker 2>was because of the spectacle.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotcha perfect? Heather asks TJ. Do you find interracial dating

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<v Speaker 3>more challenging? Especially when I heard you speak about only

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<v Speaker 3>hearing two black artists sing at the wedding you both attended.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's there's so many stories I could tell

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<v Speaker 1>that would be funny here, but it's actually interesting and

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes disappointing that the conversations we have privately are

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<v Speaker 1>not the ones we can have publicly as a country,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's so much that she says to me that

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<v Speaker 1>if she were to say on social media or in public,

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<v Speaker 1>people would try to cancel or immediately call her this

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<v Speaker 1>or that. When she's just opening herself up to something

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't know, and she feels safe talking to me

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<v Speaker 1>about it. And then I explained something to her and

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<v Speaker 1>she said, oh, it's been so many times like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get that. I never saw it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's fine, that's perfectly fine. But I just I

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<v Speaker 1>find it. And there's so much about her and her

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<v Speaker 1>life and her background and her We talk cultural and

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about music and things like that. That's one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's funny we can laugh at, but there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much else about our up we were, how we were raised,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're exposed to that are so different that make

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<v Speaker 1>it interesting. It makes it fun, but it's safe. We're

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<v Speaker 1>in a safe place to have those conversations, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I do love it. We talk about race all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>We do, and I think we would like to.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be thoughtful about it all, but we would like

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<v Speaker 2>to have those conversations because these are conversations that we

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<v Speaker 2>have stop, that we have together that I know that

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<v Speaker 2>if more people could have, it would be it would

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<v Speaker 2>bring people together. You can't know what you don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the thing, and that's the place that

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<v Speaker 2>I've come to and I've always believed this, but reinforced

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<v Speaker 2>now after having so many conversations, if we can just

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<v Speaker 2>all come to the table saying I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, and just start there, and that's where

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<v Speaker 2>we started. But we obviously this is nearly a decade

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<v Speaker 2>long friendship that's built into now a a beautiful relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have trust. That's what's lacking in most conversations,

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<v Speaker 2>and rightfully so.

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<v Speaker 1>But you start from that place where I know this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good person. You know, you start from that

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<v Speaker 1>place initially that this person isn't evil, and I've pulled

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<v Speaker 1>her to the side. Hey, you said this, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you've dota this could be taken that way. We do

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes and so it's the the other part of that,

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<v Speaker 1>And to be completely honest there is that you're I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the public eye. I'm a black man who has

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<v Speaker 1>been for my entire career embraced by a black viewership,

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<v Speaker 1>a black fan base, the black community in so many ways.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have been as everybody knows, anybody knows me,

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<v Speaker 1>how knows my level of involvement, engagement in organizations or

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<v Speaker 1>communities that have nothing to do with something I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>on television. That's just who I am. That's how I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what I came up in. This is

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<v Speaker 1>my community. But you look at that, Wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>you're so down for your community, then why what you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing over here with this blonde hair, blue eyed white girl.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just the truth, if you're being honest about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But that sometimes gets in your own head about and

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<v Speaker 1>you think that's out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't ain't a black person out there who knocks me

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<v Speaker 1>for loving who I am. If you're being honest about it,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's like what you love, who you love, and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>They're folks in this country who have fought to love

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<v Speaker 1>who they love, who have died for loving who they love.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not for me. I think that gets in

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<v Speaker 1>my own head sometimes and it shouldn't, But I think

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's doing a disservice to the black folks,

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<v Speaker 1>the black community, to think they they don't accept or appreciate,

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<v Speaker 1>or can understand or even would be supportive that you're

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<v Speaker 1>loving somebody or in a relationship with someone outside of

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<v Speaker 1>your race.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would say that, you know, initially, when the

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<v Speaker 2>news of our relationship came out, when I had my

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<v Speaker 2>work email, I was aghast and this was the minority.

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<v Speaker 2>But there were some really hateful, awful emails that included

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<v Speaker 2>death threats, specific death threats, because I was with a

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<v Speaker 2>black man and I had never experienced that before. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was just a little taste of just some of

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<v Speaker 2>what I have never or could never or had never

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<v Speaker 2>experienced before. And it was eye opening, to say the

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<v Speaker 2>very least. And I would just say that despite obviously

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<v Speaker 2>all the things we've learned about each other and respected

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<v Speaker 2>about each other, despite the color of our skin or

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<v Speaker 2>our cultural backgrounds, we have so much more in common,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we have so many shared values how we

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<v Speaker 2>were raised. Actually there were a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 2>were the same. That when you have shared values and

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<v Speaker 2>you have shared modes of operation and you care about

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<v Speaker 2>the same things, the other stuff you will figure out.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you have that that bass and we do

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<v Speaker 2>have that shared that shared base, you can build on

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<v Speaker 2>that from there. And it's a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But sure, Crosby, Steals, Nash and Young was playing in

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<v Speaker 1>the background at your house, and maybe I was listening

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<v Speaker 1>to a little more line Richie, But.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever, I love Lionel Richie, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the thing how many black people have been

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<v Speaker 1>to your house? No, I love Lionel Richie. Come on

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<v Speaker 1>if that's your black Cridentel?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you Sidney per right? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Mama, Robock, Papa roback. Guess who's coming to Dinna?

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<v Speaker 3>Alright, Martin, we have to forgive us Marta. Sue asks,

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<v Speaker 3>do you feel more comfortable in the podcast chair or

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<v Speaker 3>the broadcast chair?

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast is amazing? We've never gotten to actually just be us.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe people for us in the broadcasting chair, where we

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<v Speaker 2>were more buttoned up and reading.

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<v Speaker 4>Please someone a script?

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<v Speaker 2>But no, this is fun. I love this.

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<v Speaker 3>Kate asks what is your favorite part about running, both

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<v Speaker 3>separately and together? Kate's doing her first half marathon. Congrats Katy,

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<v Speaker 3>and she'd love to hear more about your experience. What's

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<v Speaker 3>a running playlist must have? What's something that the two

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<v Speaker 3>of you want to do together that maybe you haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, Kate, I this is right up my alley.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited you're gonna run a half marathon. It's

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<v Speaker 2>amazing to challenge yourself and I love running for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of reasons. First of all, it's such a euphemism

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<v Speaker 2>for life. You know, when you're struggling, and you're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to have great runs all the time when you're training.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's it's just this notion that you keep going anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>When your body tells you to stop, when you're brain

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<v Speaker 2>tells you to stop, you just keep putting one foot

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<v Speaker 2>in front of the other. And there's something that I

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<v Speaker 2>carry with me when I'm going through other tough times.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, Hey, you're in the middle of a tough run.

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<v Speaker 2>You just keep going. It's as simple as that. And

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<v Speaker 2>so you're you learn that your body and your mind

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<v Speaker 2>are stronger than you think. You realize that you actually

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<v Speaker 2>can control urges to stop or to like when pain happens.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love the idea of getting on the other

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<v Speaker 2>side of pain because it's progress, it's accomplishment. And I

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<v Speaker 2>love music, but I'm a big fan of I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>just saying this because we have a podcast. I love podcasts,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love listening to books because after a while,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're training, the music kind of gets old. So

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<v Speaker 2>I save that for race day a lot of times.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love listening to a good murder mystery. I

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<v Speaker 2>love listening to I mean Oprah's Super Soul Conversations has

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<v Speaker 2>gotten me through a lot of long runs. I love.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you promoting Oprah's podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that was the first podcast that I fell in

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<v Speaker 2>love with.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually what got me into listening to podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>We're trying to build an audience and we're directing them

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<v Speaker 1>to AM.

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<v Speaker 4>I would suggests.

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<v Speaker 2>Running, but it's just it's it's such a beautiful way

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<v Speaker 2>to see what you're capable.

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<v Speaker 1>Of, and congratulations hate on doing it. It's gonna feel

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<v Speaker 1>great when you get to that to the finish line.

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<v Speaker 1>It's uh and again I'm I've been always work out,

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<v Speaker 1>but Robot was the one that got me into being

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<v Speaker 1>an actual runner. I would run, but just for some

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<v Speaker 1>aerobic exercise, but I would. She's the one really responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for me becoming a runner. And to now when I

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<v Speaker 1>miss a day of running, it feels weird, like we've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten to that point to where we feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>day can't start or we haven't done something unless we run.

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<v Speaker 1>So congratulations to what you do. As far as what

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to, I am a hype music guy. Either

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<v Speaker 1>it is needs to be hip hop or hype music,

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<v Speaker 1>or it needs to be something like like just to

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<v Speaker 1>have some kind of great Crescendo has a great like

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<v Speaker 1>it gets your move on once crazy as it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>is wait for it from Hamilton no Way like some

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<v Speaker 1>of that just gets you going like that. I love

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<v Speaker 1>those two things and the other thing I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot on some of our long training runs. I

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<v Speaker 1>listen to a lot of comedy specials, so I listen

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of stand up whether that's Chris Rock

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<v Speaker 1>and of course Dave Chappelle my favorites, but Dion Cole

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<v Speaker 1>I just discovered not too long ago, who I love,

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<v Speaker 1>So those are my things. I listened to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep It Going. I love TJ's playlists when he does

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<v Speaker 2>send them to me. He does, and they're very sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>And in terms of what we want to do next,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're kind of into the New York City

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<v Speaker 2>marathon thing. I've done three, you've done two. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine we wouldn't do it again. But I'm actually a

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<v Speaker 2>huge fan of half marathons. They're perfect, so I want

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<v Speaker 2>to do I want to do the Paris half Marathon.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of want to look at creating vacations around you.

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<v Speaker 2>You get your run in and then you have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So I always have this run to fun kind of mentality.

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<v Speaker 2>So incorporating that into a vacation actually is even better.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel like you've earned the fund that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>ensue after you're done.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I recommend doing the Miami Half.

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<v Speaker 1>The Miami Half.

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<v Speaker 3>Three years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Hot, No, because.

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<v Speaker 3>You do it in the morning. They do it in January.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'd be into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Christ perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>It's beautiful, great weather, and then you have the beach,

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<v Speaker 3>all right. Perfect. So Julie is asking, she loves the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>She's asking, what motivates you to run in marathons? How

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<v Speaker 3>do you train? And what diet tips might you have

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<v Speaker 3>for someone who's over fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got into marathoning. And by the way, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say this, I had never run more than

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<v Speaker 2>a ten k before the age of forty, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was only after my breast cancer journey where I had

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<v Speaker 2>felt like my body failed me. I didn't trust my

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<v Speaker 2>body anymore. There's a lot of mental things that go

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<v Speaker 2>on with you when you go through something like that

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<v Speaker 2>and you're worried about recurrence, You're worried about if it

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<v Speaker 2>comes back. And so I just really had a difficult

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with my body and my health, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>actually the Shape Women's half marathon. They asked me to

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<v Speaker 2>be the Grand Marshal, and I thought, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I could never run a half marathon. My dad was

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<v Speaker 2>a marathon er, so I had someone who I looked

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<v Speaker 2>up to. But I remember always saying to him, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you do that? And he started running marathons in

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<v Speaker 2>his fifties. But it was that little spark, that little challenge,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I agreed to run a half marathon. But

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<v Speaker 2>I actually asked if I could do a relay with

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<v Speaker 2>my best friend, Sarah Haines, and so she said, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do seven miles. I'll meet you at six. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>run a mile together, and then you take us through

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<v Speaker 2>the rest. What happened was I got to mile seven

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<v Speaker 2>and I was feeling so good. I said, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>going to keep running. So I just kept running and

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<v Speaker 2>I was hyperventilating over the finish line and barely made it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I made it, and I thought, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I did it, But it was really painful, and unnecessarily

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<v Speaker 2>so because I didn't train. So I started training, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's when I started doing half marathons. And once I

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<v Speaker 2>did enough, I thought the New York City Marathon asked me, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>would you consider it? And sure enough, I said, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's five months. We do the Hall Higden method.

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<v Speaker 2>I print out Novice one and I just check off

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<v Speaker 2>every training run and you just do it week to

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<v Speaker 2>week to week to week for five months and you

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<v Speaker 2>trust the training and it works. And so I've got

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<v Speaker 2>five marathons under my belt now, and everyone's different based

0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 2>on the weather and the course. And I've had good

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:43.760
<v Speaker 2>ones and tough ones and fun ones, but it's challenging

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<v Speaker 2>every single time.

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<v Speaker 1>The motivation from Julie's question there for me is now

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 1>just it's just a part of my life. I'm a runner,

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:59.439
<v Speaker 1>and so my motivation now is yes, I guess health,

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:01.520
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just in it.

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:05.120
<v Speaker 2>You become a runner, you become get kind of addicted

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 2>to it.

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 1>It don't there's nothing else I got. I mean ten

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:11.640
<v Speaker 1>pairs of Nike Alpha Flies in my closet right now, yep,

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that I use every single pair. I mean, it just

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 1>becomes a part and on. Once you get that bug,

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you do not need motivation. You do not need anybody

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:24.160
<v Speaker 1>to tell you to get up. I mean it's thirty

0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>degree mornings. We have gotten up before and run. We've

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:29.479
<v Speaker 1>had things to do during the day and say, well,

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 1>we got to get the run in, and we're up

0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:34.119
<v Speaker 1>at three am to knock the run out, so we

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:36.880
<v Speaker 1>can go do something else during the day with schedule wise,

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:38.679
<v Speaker 1>that's just how it goes the training. Yes, the hall

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:40.960
<v Speaker 1>HIGGN diet is the other thing she asked about with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's always a tough one for me because

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't really like to do carbs, but it's kind

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 2>of a must.

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 4>And so it's kind of fun.

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 2>I eat things I wouldn't normally eat because I'm training,

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:54.640
<v Speaker 2>and you always make fun of me. You're like, oh,

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.880
<v Speaker 2>don't let me guess you'll have it because you're training,

0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Like French fries, probably shouldn't eat.

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:03.439
<v Speaker 1>It's a total excuse. Yes, I will start with the

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 1>double cheeseburger, man, now the slab of ribs for my main.

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, it's okay, I'm training.

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 2>That is to me, that is one of the biggest

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 2>benefits of running or training for marathon, as you get

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.400
<v Speaker 2>to eat all this stuff you would normally not eat.

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not advocated eating bad things like French fries, but

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 2>it's it's fun.

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Use an excuse. It's tougher for me because I usually

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't eat a lot of meat, and I usually

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 1>don't eat meat, so it's tough when you were doing fourteen, sixteen,

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:34.119
<v Speaker 1>eighteen twenty mile training runs. You need some carbs and

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:36.080
<v Speaker 1>you need some protein. So I have to change my

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>diet a little bit. Well I did this time. First

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:40.640
<v Speaker 1>time I didn't, and I think I struggled a little bit.

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 1>But this time I got some protein in me and whatnot.

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you just got to keep your carbs up

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and keep your energy.

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Yet, truly asks will amy convert back to being a

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Razorbacks fan?

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Ah say back.

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:57.920
<v Speaker 2>To yep, Well I was never Yeah, so Georgia Bulldogs

0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:01.479
<v Speaker 2>will always be my number one. I can't not say that.

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 2>But I will always root now for the Razorbacks if

0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 2>they're not playing Georgia, how about that? How about you

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 2>can we reverse that?

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 1>There's no you know what, this just happened. Just happened

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.199
<v Speaker 1>on our way here, I said, I need something to

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>put my red bull land to come here at our place.

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Open the cabinet and looking down looking for a cup,

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 1>pull pull it out there about to put it in.

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I turn it around, it says Georgia on it. I

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:29.919
<v Speaker 1>said nope, and I put it back. I put the

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 1>cup back, and I refuse to even drink my red

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:35.360
<v Speaker 1>bull out of a Georgia Bulldogs.

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Why is that?

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm a razorback? Would you to go home?

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Would you root for the Bulldogs?

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.959
<v Speaker 1>I root for you, I root for making you happy.

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 2>You were also rooting for Alabama.

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, I had reasons for that, as I'm still with you.

0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Well as a football fan. No, no, no, no, as a

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:56.440
<v Speaker 1>football fan, we shouldn't get into them. But I still

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>think Georgia should be in the top four.

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, by the way, yeah they should, but I three, I.

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Think Alabama should as well. But I think it made

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:04.919
<v Speaker 1>it more interesting to have Alabama.

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 2>When they got Your interest was my devastation.

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>But you know I did not make fun. I did

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 1>not choke issue because I know how this goes to

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 1>lose a game and we sell Alabama. And we sat

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.239
<v Speaker 1>and we watched that game together, and I was as

0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:17.199
<v Speaker 1>supportive as I could be.

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 2>You did stay quiet.

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:21.640
<v Speaker 1>That's support, Andy.

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes silence is support.

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Silence is golden amy. Deborah asks, how did breast cancer

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 3>change your life for the better?

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Deborah, In every single way, I I

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>think it actually prepared me for this past year, because

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I think until it happens to you, or until someone

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 2>close to you goes through something serious where death is

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 2>on the table, it's that watershed moment where you realize

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 2>that tomorrow is not a given and all we have

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 2>is right now, and when you start to actually fear

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 2>for your life in a real way, you start realizing

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 2>that we'll do that in five years, we'll do that

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 2>in ten years, like that's just a pipe dream. And

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I actually really didn't even let myself plan a future

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 2>or think about a future, and that's a good thing.

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 2>You start living your life the way you envisioned it,

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 2>and you don't apologize time is the greatest commodity. So

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I learned to say no in a way that I

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 2>hadn't before. I learned to prioritize who I spent time with,

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 2>how I spent my time, and what I wanted to accomplish.

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 2>And I stopped letting my job define me. And that

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 2>was a huge part of my transition in I used

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 2>to brag about not taking my vacation days. I thought

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 2>that was something to be proud of. I left two

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 2>weeks on the table. I only took five days. What

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 2>an idiot was I? You know, like no job. Like

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 2>when you're on your deathbed, You're not gonna say, man,

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I wish I would have worked more. You're never gonna

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 2>say that. You're gonna say I wish I would have

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 2>loved more. I would have laughed more. I would have

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>traveled more. I would have taken my time as what

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 2>it actually is, a gift, And so yes, it changed.

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:13.959
<v Speaker 2>It reprioritized my entire life, and it forced me to

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 2>put the people I wanted to spend time with first

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 2>and foremost, and for that I am grateful. It was

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 2>a gift. It still continues to be a gift, and

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>it guides me every day.

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 3>And and Christa asks, how are your relationship with each

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 3>other's kids.

0:29:39.960 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Evolving? Is what I would say. And we had relationships

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 2>with each other's kids when we were just friends. And

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 2>so as tough as it's been for so many people

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 2>in our lives, it's the most difficult for them because

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 2>now they're having to look at us in a different

0:29:55.720 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 2>way with one another, and we are. We have been

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 2>very thoughtful, and we've taken things very slowly and we're

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 2>being very patient. But things are good. They're peaceful and

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:12.959
<v Speaker 2>we want to continue to build on that.

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>And again, my little one here, Sabine is ten years old.

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>She's known Robot since she was one. Yeah, literally since

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>she was one, and now she's knowing roboc in a

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>different way, in a different role. But it's been the greatest.

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 1>And again they are Sabine again. All that's Sabine always, guys,

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>She's ten years old and always are just open. Roboq

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>is here, We're hanging in. Do you want to do this?

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Hey?

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Robot is da da da. And lately the past few

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>months she is volunteered. She's like, oh, Robot is there?

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Can I come by? Oh? You and Robot are doing

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>what can I get a piece of that? Oh? Y'all

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>going to see a horror movie? I'm in like voluntarily,

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Like this is her having a desire to do these things.

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>And I have never ever, she has never hung out

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>with us without absolutely giving the okay or in most

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 1>cases now requesting. Now it's like, really we owe some

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>private time. I'm kidding.

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 4>Like last night she popped in. It was so fun.

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>God, she popped in last night and we just ended up.

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 2>On she was reading our horoscopes and we were just

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 2>cutting up.

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 4>So she's so.

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Sabin is absolutely great and she is doing is

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm so proud to see her these days and how

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>she's doing, and how she's mature and how she handles

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>so many things. But she is. Uh, it's really really

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>been I think you would agree. One of the most

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>touching things here recently is to see how she's doing

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 1>and how she wants to be a part and included

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and enjoys the time with us. So she's great.

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 3>And Anna asks, if you could give yourself advice or

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 3>tell yourself something from one year ago, what would it be?

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Watch out for that Roebuck. No, that is all I

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>get this question every once in a while over the years.

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>It's hard. I always would say that it is so

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>difficult to think that I would give myself advice going

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>back to something, because that would exchange, that would change

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 1>the experience of my life. And there were so many

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>things I needed to figure out I needed to learn

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>on my own. I didn't need a warning necessarily about

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I had to actually go through it to get to

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>where I am. So I'm as I sit here still

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>in all those things, we say, oh, maybe we should

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>have done this, Maybe we should have done that. It

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>is so hard to sit here, happy and healthy and

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>think I wish something in my life would have been different,

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>like you never ever and I am sorry for it.

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>That There's no time in my life that I ever

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do harm to somebody, that I wanted to

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>hurt somebody, but I have, and I've hurt people who

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I love, who are family members, And I have said

0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>plenty of I'm sorries in life, and I think everybody

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>has that experience. But short of that, you just have

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 1>to go through it. And I don't want to warn

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>seventeen year old TJ not to do this, because then

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 1>he might have been a little too cautious and might

0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>not have done this, and might just it's hard to

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>say that I would tell myself a heads up or

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 1>a warning or anything like that.

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Humility is hard earned. Oftentimes it's through the tough times

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 2>that you learn that, and it's an important lesson, probably

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 2>one of the most important lessons you learn in life.

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 2>But I think if I had to say anything to

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>myself a year ago, I just would have said to

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I would have reminded myself there's more love than hate,

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 2>there's more support than discord, and there were times when

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 2>you saw the headlines or you felt this I like

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 2>to call it the vocal minority, and you start to

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 2>feel the pressure that everyone is thinking this, everyone is

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 2>saying these things, and I just would have wanted to

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:00.080
<v Speaker 2>remind myself there is more love than hate, there is

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 2>more support than not. There were moments when I didn't

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 2>believe that, and I know that's true now. I would

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 2>have liked to have reminded myself that.

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 3>A year later, Bianca asks, what are your next professional goals?

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 3>And do you have any New Year's resolutions?

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.879
<v Speaker 1>No, on the resolutions, I'm not a fan of those,

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>so I'd never make them. Because if I want to

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 1>do something different and want to change life, let's do

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 1>it on December fifteenth. Why don't I need to wait?

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.280
<v Speaker 1>That's just my mindset of it. We have this arbitrary

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 1>day like, oh, now I'm going to make changes, and

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I just I have never been a fan. I don't

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>knock anybody else else for that, but absolutely don't have

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>any resolutions. As far as what was it professional professional goals?

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Professional goals to have not just a hit but an

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 1>all time hit podcast? How about that? Andy? That is

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 1>what the goal is at this point. This is a

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 1>new venture or new medium, and we are loving it.

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>And so this is where we start now. Television is

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>what we know and what we do what we used to.

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:08.720
<v Speaker 1>But it would be very hard to go back, especially

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 1>from this now from a podcast and go into a

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>more scripted scenario, to go into something. Well, you can

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 1>do this, but you can't do this. You could say this,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't say that. You could say this much,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't say that. It'd be hard to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So right now, I'm loving what we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my professional goal is to continue to be able well,

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to pay my bills broadcasting with the

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 2>person I have the most fun with professionally, which is you,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, And yeah, to pay my bills. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be able to do this for a living

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<v Speaker 2>and not have to worry about anything else and that

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<v Speaker 2>so that would be having a hit podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>So I guess we're on the same page. That's a

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<v Speaker 4>good thing, are we though?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it was your professional goal not to go broke.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's an honest goal, right, but to do

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<v Speaker 2>it with a person who I love doing it with.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was also during all of this time

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<v Speaker 2>this year where we didn't have a job. We were

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<v Speaker 2>together NonStop, but we actually still study to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I miss working with you. I miss that we sparred

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, but just just the challenge.

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 4>Just the verbal sparring.

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<v Speaker 2>We had fun with that. Yeah, I missed some of

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 2>that banter. I missed being getting prepared for things and

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 2>going places and covering amazing world events with you, all

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<v Speaker 2>of that. So anyway, I hope that we can try

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<v Speaker 2>to do more of that together. I wouldn't have nearly

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<v Speaker 2>as much fun or feel nearly as much satisfaction doing

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<v Speaker 2>something alone. I think once I've realized how fun it

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 2>is to have that dynamic and that chemistry, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really want to do anything on my aunuman. I will

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<v Speaker 2>if I have to, but that's my goal to stay

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<v Speaker 2>with him and to pay my bills. Yeah, and in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of Newer's resolutions, sometimes I make them. I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>thought of what mine is for this year. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's just continuing to to be a better person. I

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<v Speaker 2>think for me it's more internal.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to can you start that today? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you have to wait January one?

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<v Speaker 2>It's just maybe like a it's just like a mark

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<v Speaker 2>in the calendar just like a reset basically, so you

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<v Speaker 2>can be.

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<v Speaker 1>A jerk from now until the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>But January one, No.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a reminder that you know. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>said this actually in the last podcast, and I've tried

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<v Speaker 2>to live this for the last several years. But zero judgment.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to sit on any throne and cast

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:48.879
<v Speaker 2>judgment on how anyone else lives their lives. And I've

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 2>been doing that, but I sometimes I think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>nice to have a reminder January one, this is who

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<v Speaker 2>I am, This is who I'm going to be, This

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<v Speaker 2>is how I'm going to live.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait cast judguently anybody else is what do you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Gossip and talk crap about people?

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<v Speaker 4>All that is. It's such an easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Reflex because it makes you feel better about whatever you've done.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when you make a decision, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to partake or do that anymore. And I'm definitely there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will remind myself on January one this is

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<v Speaker 2>who I am and how I'm gonna live. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing it now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna remind you tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, Debbie asks, would you guys get a

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<v Speaker 3>tattoo for each other.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know we haven't already, Debbie. We'll leave

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<v Speaker 1>it at that. Got a tattoo. That's more of a

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<v Speaker 1>commitment than a marriage. Should we just tell everybody we

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:43.879
<v Speaker 1>got tattoos, we're married, and we live together.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are his New Year's resolutions. Actually, he didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to say it. But back to the last question.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>The last question comes from Grace. She asks, did you

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<v Speaker 3>guys have any reservations about working together again?

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<v Speaker 2>No? None, whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it was the goal, right, It was actually the goal.

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<v Speaker 1>And we even formed partnerships together where our agency together,

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<v Speaker 1>and part of it was to to make sure they

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>were looking for opportunities for the two of us. Look,

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>there will be some individual opportunities as well, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is great. We do love working together and.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully we can do it for a long long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's an inside joke. But oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 1>got I got it from a I think I got

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<v Speaker 1>it from a Family Guy episode. But I say this

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>to her all the time. Chris Griffin said, if anybody

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<v Speaker 1>watch this Family Guy he had he was dating this

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>girl and she was out of his league, and she

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 1>thought he was just being kind of a jerk and

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be with her because she was popular, and

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>he said some line about no, I don't think any

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff. I think you're nice. I enjoyed time

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 1>with you. I think you're really pretty. I hope we

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 1>get to be together for a long long time. So

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I say this to her all the time about our relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so just to let you in on why we will.

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<v Speaker 2>He says that to me at least once a week.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope we get to be together for.

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<v Speaker 4>A long long time. I thought it was the perfect

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:19.360
<v Speaker 4>way to answer that question.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic, all right is that? Thank you? Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>that grace.

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<v Speaker 2>So tej I think you have your New Year's resolution.

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<v Speaker 1>Now for yes therapy for us.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were going to say to keep working

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<v Speaker 2>with me on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, contractually, I don't have it. I don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>choice there who it was making the argument that we

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 1>working together is actually a stronger commitment than actually getting married.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yes, I will be here with you onward.

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>But you said that enough, Okay, we're out of here.

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<v Speaker 1>We see y. Also, bye bye. Pots.

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<v Speaker 3>The two things