Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to I Choose Me. Okay, Danielle, we have
Speaker 2: had a really truly beautiful conversation about reinvention and choosing
Speaker 2: ourselves and saying no. But we both grew up in
Speaker 2: the nineties onto of the you know, arguably biggest shows
Speaker 2: on TV. So we cannot really go and not talk
Speaker 2: about the nineties, right, We got to give it some love.
Speaker 2: So we both agree that now that we've rewatched our shows,
Speaker 2: we love them. Yes, we have a new appreciation and
Speaker 2: we love all of our great memories. So nine O
Speaker 2: two one zero and Boy Meets World, okay, great, best
Speaker 2: relationship on the show from your show.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: That's tough because everyone's gonna say Corian Tapanga because people
Speaker 4: think of orient to Panga as being the quintessential relationship
Speaker 4: of the show.
Speaker 3: But then there's also Sean and Angela, who had an off.
Speaker 4: And on relationship but also very beautiful and they deeply
Speaker 4: loved each other and cared about each other.
Speaker 3: And then there's Corey and Sean.
Speaker 4: Who had like the friendship to just be the pinnacle
Speaker 4: of male friendships.
Speaker 3: And then there's Amy and Allen the parents on the
Speaker 3: show Who.
Speaker 4: Those first five seasons had some of the best marriage
Speaker 4: content for adult actors on a sitcom I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna you want me to guess what I think.
Speaker 4: People thought or people said, Is that right?
Speaker 3: My opinion?
Speaker 1: I think what your opinion is, Okay.
Speaker 4: My opinion is that Amy and Allan have the is
Speaker 4: the best couple. The parents they had those first several
Speaker 4: seasons where you really get to see them talk it out.
Speaker 4: It's the first time I've ever seen on TV parents saying,
Speaker 4: we don't know what we're doing, but we have to
Speaker 4: make a decision about this. What do we do now?
Speaker 4: This is the And it's like, as a kid, You're like,
Speaker 4: parents don't.
Speaker 3: Know what they're doing.
Speaker 4: What do you mean you think all adults just know
Speaker 4: how to do everything, that there's some rule book and
Speaker 4: like they just know. Then you realize you get to
Speaker 4: be a parent yourself, and you go, oh, none of.
Speaker 3: Us have any idea.
Speaker 4: We have to make it up as we go along
Speaker 4: based on our upbringing, our thoughts, our hands. And now
Speaker 4: you're in a relationship, like what you want to do too?
Speaker 4: I have to take that into consideration.
Speaker 1: You are killing me. I love that.
Speaker 2: I love that giving the parents on the show credit
Speaker 2: because they often just get overlooked.
Speaker 3: You exactly, No, not these parents, no about you.
Speaker 1: What was on our show?
Speaker 2: On our show, I think the parents definitely got overlooked,
Speaker 2: they got underwritten. But there were so many teens to
Speaker 2: you know, storylines the surface, so I would have to say, oh,
Speaker 2: my gosh, best relationship, I don't know, I just don't know.
Speaker 1: I think all of the relationship were.
Speaker 2: Tested time again influential on your character.
Speaker 4: Which relationship do you think impacted your character the most?
Speaker 2: I think her relationship with Dylan, Yeah, because he really
Speaker 2: saw her in a different way than other guys had
Speaker 2: ever seen her, and he made her feel like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you are a little damaged.
Speaker 2: But it's okay because we're all a little damaged, and
Speaker 2: so it made her less shameful of her history.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that it all.
Speaker 2: What is a lesson learned from that time from that show?
Speaker 4: Well, everyone knows the famous quote that ends the show,
Speaker 4: which is dream try and do good and one of
Speaker 4: the which is definitely what you could say overall, one
Speaker 4: of the lessons of Boy Meets World is is this
Speaker 4: you know that's a longstanding belief that we can all
Speaker 4: go out in the world and believe, you know, dream,
Speaker 4: try and do good. But one of my favorite moments
Speaker 4: is when they talk about that you don't have to
Speaker 4: be blood to be family, which is a really important
Speaker 4: theme on Boy Meets World because Sean Ryder Strong's character
Speaker 4: doesn't have a stable family life, and he takes Corey's
Speaker 4: family on is kind of like his surrogate family, and
Speaker 4: Corey is the closest thing he has to a brother,
Speaker 4: even though he has real brothers. And so that idea
Speaker 4: that your family is only the people that share your
Speaker 4: that share.
Speaker 3: Blood with you.
Speaker 4: Picking chosen family is something that's important in my life
Speaker 4: as well. And so I would say a lesson learned
Speaker 4: is that you know, especially as you get older, you
Speaker 4: are in control of the people you spend your time with.
Speaker 4: Outside of work, you don't get to choose all your coworkers,
Speaker 4: but in your personal life, who you give your time,
Speaker 4: energy and attention to is entirely up to you, and
Speaker 4: you shouldn't in any way be forced to spend that time, effort,
Speaker 4: and energy on someone who is not your chosen family.
Speaker 4: And so you know you can choose your blood family,
Speaker 4: and you can choose people that aren't blood family.
Speaker 3: I love that lesson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. I think that's important. I mean it's hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, relationships can be difficult, and it can be hard
Speaker 2: to disappoint people when you're not it's not a reciprocal
Speaker 2: feeling or you know, those kinds of things I would
Speaker 2: have to say from nine or two and zero, I
Speaker 2: think that the thing that comes to my mind is
Speaker 2: these characters were growing up and making mistakes along the
Speaker 2: way and even into young adulthood, as they should be,
Speaker 2: like making mistakes and learning from their mistakes, and I
Speaker 2: think that it taught especially. I mean it's kind of
Speaker 2: comedic as the amount of things they put my character
Speaker 2: through Kelly, but it's kind of interesting that she survived
Speaker 2: at all, Like she always rose from the ashes, and
Speaker 2: that kind of instilled in me the knowledge that I
Speaker 2: could always survive anything, even you know, there were moments
Speaker 2: when I didn't really remember that. But when you know
Speaker 2: the pedal gets to the metal, you know that you
Speaker 2: can handle anything. And I think I learned a lot
Speaker 2: about that from Kelly Taylor.
Speaker 3: That is so that's very smart.
Speaker 4: That's very inspiring too, because like I, Dapanga didn't really
Speaker 4: I mean, I think the biggest ship Topanga went through
Speaker 4: was one when Corey cheated on her and lied to
Speaker 4: her and then they show oh yes, of course, I
Speaker 4: don't know, it's so sad, but and then when her
Speaker 4: parents got divorced. But otherwise Tapega always kind of like
Speaker 4: had it together. But the Sean character was the one that, like,
Speaker 4: no matter what life threw at him, he was always
Speaker 4: gonna come out on top, even if you know, he,
Speaker 4: like you said, forgot sometimes along the way. What he
Speaker 4: was capable of in the end he would always be
Speaker 4: reminded was because.
Speaker 2: Both shows, I feel like, empowered a lot of people,
Speaker 2: a lot of That's why the fans are so loyal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they stuck with They have stuck with.
Speaker 2: Both you and me through you know, the entirety of
Speaker 2: our careers thus far.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 1: They're just so supportive because they really connected with our characters.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Okay, next round, this is called who Wore It? I'm
Speaker 2: going to name a nineties fashion trend and you just
Speaker 2: say if you wore it? And I think this is
Speaker 2: going to be fun to talk about. Okay, So chokers,
Speaker 2: you know, the stretchy tattoo chokers.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, hello, I mean absolutely, Tapega definitely wore that.
Speaker 4: But I also feel like that's got to be a
Speaker 4: Kelly thing.
Speaker 2: I think it was at every One again, another rite
Speaker 2: of passage just.
Speaker 1: To be in the nineties.
Speaker 4: Topanga's was very The one specifically that I remember for
Speaker 4: Tepega is very famous because it's from the Donut in
Speaker 4: the Sky dance that I do. I do. I did
Speaker 4: an interpretive dance that I got to choreograph on my own.
Speaker 3: And I have a big blue flower choker necklace on.
Speaker 4: I'm wearing like a white lace dress and I have
Speaker 4: a blue flower.
Speaker 2: Oh, a statement choker, A statement choker, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Level.
Speaker 4: I also had bangs and I have I have a
Speaker 4: two head and I have no neck.
Speaker 3: So the fact that anyone was like, like, you.
Speaker 4: Know, what we should do is put big round brush
Speaker 4: bangs on that tiny forehead and then see how short
Speaker 4: her neck is.
Speaker 3: I think we should accentuate it.
Speaker 1: By putting one's eyes to that's right there. Your neck
Speaker 1: is beautiful.
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Okay? Overalls.
Speaker 2: Oh, and you get a bonus if you you wore
Speaker 2: them with like one side down. You know, I don't not, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like when you don't clasp both thingies.
Speaker 3: Oh I love that.
Speaker 1: I do love that look.
Speaker 4: I feel like I've seen you in a picture like
Speaker 4: that with your get with them rolled up.
Speaker 3: Are they pegged too?
Speaker 1: Probably? I am such a fan of the peg.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, it's so cute on it. I can picture it. Think.
Speaker 4: I think you may even have a choker on in
Speaker 4: that picture.
Speaker 2: I've got all the things I still love, like when
Speaker 2: it's like gardening day to just throw on a ginormous.
Speaker 1: Pair of overalls.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that you can just get in the dirt
Speaker 2: in and not have to worry about it.
Speaker 3: An I'm not worrying about it. I know I do,
Speaker 3: and I do love overalls. But Pega did not wear
Speaker 3: with them.
Speaker 2: No, I mean I love overall so much. I made
Speaker 2: some for my for me by Jenny Garth. I was like,
Speaker 2: I have to do overalls because.
Speaker 3: I have to.
Speaker 1: I just love them.
Speaker 3: I love that you called it gardening day, attire. I
Speaker 3: love that. I need to.
Speaker 4: I need to come over and learn from you for
Speaker 4: gardening because I have the I have whatever the opposite
Speaker 4: of a green thumb is.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I don't know if I'm the person to
Speaker 2: help you. I I'm pretty good with house plants. I'm
Speaker 2: just starting my garden, so.
Speaker 1: I'll have to like, that's TBD if I'm putting.
Speaker 2: Pattern, all right, let me know. Okay, we did the
Speaker 2: scrunchies for sure. Oh I still do the scrunchies.
Speaker 1: Do you like a satin scrunchy or a velvet scrunchy
Speaker 1: and you got the hair scrunchy like you need a
Speaker 1: little grunchy.
Speaker 4: I think it's I think there. I think they don't
Speaker 4: leave as many dents. I know, the satin ones you'd
Speaker 4: think also don't leave dents.
Speaker 1: But there's something.
Speaker 4: About the way the the elastic inside the satin I
Speaker 4: feel like just touches your hair more like the.
Speaker 3: Satin is thinner than the velvet. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: feel it gives a buffer.
Speaker 2: You know what I got this one? This is a
Speaker 2: big scrunchy that dries your hair.
Speaker 1: Have you seen that?
Speaker 2: No, it's like hairy cloth and it's pretty big, but
Speaker 2: you put it on your on your hair and it
Speaker 2: dries your hair like more than you know a normals
Speaker 2: crunchy would.
Speaker 3: Wow. I do like that.
Speaker 4: That's that's nice because I like occasionally like to let
Speaker 4: my hair air dry, and it takes so dang.
Speaker 1: Long I need I just sort of hell, I know
Speaker 1: I'm over the blowout. I have been going all a natural.
Speaker 3: And does this look all a natural around?
Speaker 1: Yeah? This is I use today for you, hair queen.
Speaker 2: I gave myself a little round brushy not like the
Speaker 2: thing that has the air that comes through it, but
Speaker 2: it's also a round brush.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have one that goes low temp from my friend
Speaker 2: ch as Deine, and it's I did that today just
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 3: Wow, your hair's gorgeous.
Speaker 4: I mean if my hair looked like this without me
Speaker 4: putting in any work to it, I would also never.
Speaker 1: Are you doing curly hair naturally? Or what's happening without
Speaker 1: a body hair?
Speaker 3: Frizzy hair naturally? So I can it can go either way.
Speaker 3: If I blow it out, it looks great. If I
Speaker 3: let it.
Speaker 4: If I make it more curly, it can look great.
Speaker 4: But it requires just as much effort as a blowout does.
Speaker 3: It's like, now I've got to put this product in. Now,
Speaker 3: I'm gotta use this. Now I'm gonna wrap it around
Speaker 3: my finger.
Speaker 1: And I said this to my husband last night. I
Speaker 1: got into bed and I was like, I'm so tired
Speaker 1: of the upkeep.
Speaker 2: Like that all that we have to do to keep
Speaker 2: ourselves together, Like the doctor's appointments, let's start with that.
Speaker 2: You gotta really be on top of that and be proactive.
Speaker 2: Then it's just like okay, the skincare, the dental care,
Speaker 2: the dental hygiene, the eye care. Yes, it's all like
Speaker 2: not just your face skin, your body skin. Then there's
Speaker 2: the like fighting of the gravity.
Speaker 4: Yes, and sunscreen. Do I have to go to our sunscreen?
Speaker 4: We kind of sunscreen? Is this my face sunscreen? Or
Speaker 4: do I have to wear body sunscreen?
Speaker 3: It's all just so much. And what are we shaving?
Speaker 1: Do we laser? I don't know. There's a German planing.
Speaker 3: Now I gotta shave my face.
Speaker 4: It's like, what what are we talking about? That was
Speaker 4: the one good that was the one thing we had
Speaker 4: on men, is that hey, I don't have to shave
Speaker 4: my face.
Speaker 3: And now I'm like, oh, it's been a week since
Speaker 3: I Germa plane. What are we doing?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: My god?
Speaker 1: And you know what, I'm older than you, and it
Speaker 1: only gets harder.
Speaker 3: I know, I know.
Speaker 4: My mom is My mom is only twenty three years
Speaker 4: older than me, and she she is just she she
Speaker 4: never hesitates to tell me about how much worse it gets.
Speaker 3: I don't want to get me.
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you it gets way better in
Speaker 2: so many ways. It kind of outweighs the worst. But
Speaker 2: just keep this hard. I mean, this is crazy. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is the last one, this or that nineties edition.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say two things, and you pick your
Speaker 2: favorite and tell me why.
Speaker 1: Save by the Belt A fresh Prince.
Speaker 3: Oh fresh Prince.
Speaker 4: Will Smith is just so much fun and so electric.
Speaker 4: And then also Tatiana Ali. I just think she's one
Speaker 4: of the most talented, beautiful, fun to watch people ever.
Speaker 4: And then you know, I'll Fonso that's my boy, and
Speaker 4: uh and he's such an iconic character. So I would
Speaker 4: go Fresh Print and the song, I mean, come on
Speaker 4: theme song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty iconic.
Speaker 4: Yeah okay, Oh for me, I.
Speaker 2: Never watched Save by the Bell, but I did like
Speaker 2: Fresh Prints. I liked the just like the vibe of
Speaker 2: it and also just energy in it.
Speaker 1: It was I had a lot of energy. Make lifted
Speaker 1: you up?
Speaker 2: Okay, AOL instant messenger or landline phone back.
Speaker 3: Then, back then lamb line phone.
Speaker 4: I would spend hours, not just talking to boys, not
Speaker 4: just talking to boys. I liked which I definitely did.
Speaker 4: But also just catching up with friends. You spend all
Speaker 4: day with them at school and then you get home,
Speaker 4: you do your homework. Can you immediately pick up the
Speaker 4: phone and call your friend?
Speaker 1: Did you have like a leading line?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 1: The long once quickly quickly.
Speaker 4: And I could play with it with my finger and
Speaker 4: lay out on my bed and I go on to
Speaker 4: the other side, go to my five disc CD player
Speaker 4: that was like this big.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Now it's like we can listen to music anywhere on
Speaker 4: our phones, but now I used to have a giant,
Speaker 4: giant CD player.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I still have my AOL. Do you account?
Speaker 2: I remember they gave it to us. It was free,
Speaker 2: I think, but they made a big titdo about you. Look,
Speaker 2: we're giving you this free AOL. And I was so
Speaker 2: soaked to get something for free that I never wanted.
Speaker 1: To get rid of it. So I still have it.
Speaker 2: I don't use it as my primary anymore because people
Speaker 2: literally just laugh when I say my address. So yeah,
Speaker 2: but I love that AOL.
Speaker 4: My my co star on Pod Meets World and before World,
Speaker 4: Wilford hasn't al email address.
Speaker 1: Okay, the Rachel haircut.
Speaker 4: Or the side part, the Rachel haircut or the side part.
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like Tapanga had the Rachel before Rachel.
Speaker 4: Take it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the Topanga, Okay, I love that.
Speaker 4: Also, we were so into middle parts, like the all
Speaker 4: the boys of that generation had that middle part haircut,
Speaker 4: you know, like Jonathan Taylor, Thomas and writers like the
Speaker 4: sloppy Yes, the floppy middle just gorgeous. Luke Perry had
Speaker 4: that too, right in the middle or was it a
Speaker 4: side His was.
Speaker 1: Up, it was straight, there was no parting of anything.
Speaker 3: Jason's was was the last.
Speaker 1: Side part they had. Yeah, his was kind of side
Speaker 1: and then they had the sideburns that was like I burn, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's got all the girls.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: We liked middle middle part haircuts so much that we
Speaker 4: me Writer and Will when we started a little production
Speaker 4: company for the podcast, we called it Middle Part Productions.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 2: I will never give up the side part though, even
Speaker 2: though my character I think had every hairstyle there ever.
Speaker 1: Was, But I think I still love the side part.
Speaker 2: And every time I do it, my daughter is like, no, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm like what why?
Speaker 4: I know you can pray it from my cold dead hands.
Speaker 3: Where else am I getting volume?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Thanks so true. Oh my gosh, you are so much fun.
Speaker 1: I've loved everything.
Speaker 2: Those were days, Those were crazy, crazy ninety days.
Speaker 1: But how lucky are we too having lived through that
Speaker 1: and be still here doing what we love to.
Speaker 4: Do and does not have too much photographic evidence of it,
Speaker 4: you know, like at least video evidence of it. It
Speaker 4: was before were the days of paparazzi and before the
Speaker 4: days of Instagram, so we could just be young idiots
Speaker 4: with money in somewhat, you know, with privacy.
Speaker 1: So it really was the good old days.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: It was well.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that we are both still here to talk
Speaker 2: about it and still thriving.
Speaker 1: I love that. I wish you all successes in everything
Speaker 1: that you're doing.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Likewise, I can't wait for the next time we run
Speaker 4: into each other.
Speaker 1: It will happen.
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, Thank you. Bye.