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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford and he is my trust in

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Speaker 1: colleague West hod Kowitz. Were coming to you here from

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Speaker 1: our studios at lambeau Field. West were another day closer

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Speaker 1: to Packers and Cardinals noon Central time kickoff week here

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Speaker 1: in the NFL season, game number twelve for the Packers,

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Speaker 1: who are four six and one, looking to uh obviously

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Speaker 1: stay alive here in But I want to start today's

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Speaker 1: show with a little bit of talk about Davante Adams.

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Speaker 1: Not that we haven't talked about him a lot already

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Speaker 1: this season, but an interesting comment. I'm gonna go back

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Speaker 1: to a few weeks ago when Aaron Rodgers was asked

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Speaker 1: about Davante Adams and you know, why is it that

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Speaker 1: you know, he's not talked about amongst the league's elite receivers.

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Speaker 1: He's sort of always talked. He's sort of mentioned as

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Speaker 1: an afterthought or maybe on that next tier, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the national conversations, is what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. And Rogers said, well, he's still just he

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Speaker 1: It's going to come for him and he just needs

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Speaker 1: to have that one wow season. Well, He's got seventy

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Speaker 1: seven catches for one thousand, twenty two yards and ten touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good season. If today we're already January two,

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Speaker 1: but there are five games left in this season and

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Speaker 1: he's got those numbers. This looks to me like this

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Speaker 1: is the Wow season for Davante Adams. And regardless of

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Speaker 1: how the Packers finished record wise, if if the recognition,

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Speaker 1: the DO recognition doesn't come his way, now, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure how Itever was. Here's what's really exciting about Davante Adams.

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Speaker 1: I think he's one of the real untapped gems out

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Speaker 1: there for the national media and um, those type of

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Speaker 1: outlets to really discover because you know, you and I

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Speaker 1: have been around for five years. He has a very

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Speaker 1: confident but yet pleasant demeanor in terms of how he

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Speaker 1: deals with the media. UM, I never want to go

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Speaker 1: out and say that guy's quote unquote enjoy the whole

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Speaker 1: media process because it is a big commitment and you

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Speaker 1: know they're they're working twelve hour days, fourteen hour days

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Speaker 1: and then they gotta they gotta intersplice this. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think Davantae Adams hates it. It seems like ever

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Speaker 1: since the beginning, even when the questions are really hard

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Speaker 1: for him, he always embraced that. And I think behind

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Speaker 1: whatever the season turns into, whether it's dred yards, hundred catches,

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Speaker 1: all the touchdowns in the world, I think is that

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Speaker 1: door starts to get open and people start to really

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Speaker 1: not I don't want to put the Jordy Nelson air

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Speaker 1: in the past, but start to understand that this is

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Speaker 1: the receiver of the future for the Packers and Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: I think people are gonna be pleasantly surprised at the

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Speaker 1: type of individual that they're going to be dealing with.

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Speaker 1: Because Davante Adams doesn't want to be a super are

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Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be a celebrity. But the way

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Speaker 1: he carries himself and and how he handles those responsibilities,

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Speaker 1: I think are going to endear him to the national

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Speaker 1: picture whenever that day finally arrives. Yeah, I think for

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Speaker 1: the most part, as much as you say, he does

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Speaker 1: the most part he does just let us play on

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Speaker 1: the field and talking. And I think that's something that

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Speaker 1: certainly the local media here in Green Bay, as we

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Speaker 1: talked to him on a daily on a weekly basis.

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Speaker 1: We certainly respect that about him. I wrote a story

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Speaker 1: for our website this week, kind of a numbers based,

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Speaker 1: statistics based story to look at things projecting with where

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Speaker 1: Adams is after eleven games this year, and if you

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Speaker 1: just do the math, which doesn't always work out, but

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Speaker 1: if you do the math projecting where he is seventy

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Speaker 1: seven catches, that's an easy one. That's seven per game

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Speaker 1: through eleven games. So that actually would equate if he

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Speaker 1: which is exactly the single season record for the Green

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Speaker 1: And then as far as touchdowns, he's got ten right

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Speaker 1: one hundred season of Green Bay Packers football, that's saying something.

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Speaker 1: It is and Mike gonna see whether or not he

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Speaker 1: all the phenomenal receivers the Packers have had over the

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Speaker 1: last twenty five years, but the fact that Davante Adams

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Speaker 1: needs only twenty three more catches over these next seven

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Speaker 1: something that hasn't been done since with Robert Brooks Um

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Speaker 1: Regardless of whether or not he pushes for Sterling I

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Speaker 1: he's become in this league, in in what he offers

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Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers in this offense. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: if you asked Davante and to some extent, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of plays out there that he still wishes he

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Speaker 1: maybe it isn't the same threshold that it was twenty

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Speaker 1: The one thing that is of not you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: But these are the type of things that Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: who do I think, when this is all said and done,

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Speaker 1: Would it be Jordy Nelson or will it be Davante Adams.

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Speaker 1: And it's an interesting question because when you look back

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Speaker 1: feather in the cap of Ted Thompson, is how the

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Speaker 1: R He a lot of times had to make it work.

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Speaker 1: There were years where Corey Bradford was in there, Bill schrader.

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Speaker 1: I think what's really special about this group that they've

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Speaker 1: A lot of them were able to, you know, really

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Speaker 1: heading into this game against the Arizona Cardinals. Bill, you

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Speaker 1: It has set up really well for them right now.

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Speaker 1: Sean Paynton has them operating in a well oiled Machine

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Speaker 1: and my fantasy football team will have Elvin Kamara on

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Speaker 1: the field tonight, so we'll see how that goes. All

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