WEBVTT - Cuddling up to the Cuttlefish

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff from the Science Lab from how stuff

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<v Speaker 1>works dot com. Hey guys, welcome to the podcast. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Alison an't like the science center at how stuff

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<v Speaker 1>works dot com. And this is Robert Lamb, science writer

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<v Speaker 1>at how stuff works dot com. And you know, today

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<v Speaker 1>we are talking about like what is probably the most

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<v Speaker 1>boss animal in the entire ocean. We're talking about and

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<v Speaker 1>also the cutest, the cuttlefish. The cutest. I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to cuttle up to cuttleish, wouldn't you. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they look kind of like, uh, there's something kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like kitten like about them when you see him at

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<v Speaker 1>the aquarium. Indeed, I do think kittens when I see

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<v Speaker 1>cuttle fish. Yeah, Like you know how like like a

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<v Speaker 1>cattle can of like ball up and be like a

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<v Speaker 1>little you know, a little handful of cat. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like like cuttlefish kind of have that look going on

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time, you know, and they're they're hovering

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<v Speaker 1>around and their little their little tanks and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>changing colors wildly. It's it's amazing stuff. Yeah, we get

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<v Speaker 1>interested in cuttlefish back when we did life um in

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of two thousand ten, we did all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of interesting articles on cuttlefish, and one of them was

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<v Speaker 1>this really amazing sequence in Life in which the videographers

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<v Speaker 1>had a pretty tough task. Yeah. Yeah, they were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, they have all this footage that they

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<v Speaker 1>shot on the ocean floor and and it's not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you go down on to the ocean Florida to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot something like cuttlefish mating, it's not just like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna turn on the camera and then when we

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<v Speaker 1>turn it off we have our footage. No, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>shooting stuff here and there, and you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's all out of sequence, and it's like shooting a movie, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then you get it back, you hand it over

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<v Speaker 1>to the editors and they start trying to piece it together.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a pretty tricky factor here those because they're

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<v Speaker 1>changing colors. It's like one second, this uh, this cuttlefish

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<v Speaker 1>is small and white, and then it's like it's changed

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<v Speaker 1>it's texture, it's dark purple, and it's over here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all happening in the space of seconds. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine if you were like the you know, the editor

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<v Speaker 1>on a film, and you were you had shot like

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Cruise. But Tom Cruise kept like morphing into other people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you're like, oh, well his range isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that soul. But occasionally he does morph into another person,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and yeah on Oprah or you know, interview

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<v Speaker 1>with the Vampire or something. You know, it's like, but

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<v Speaker 1>but what all that was happening, you know, in the

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<v Speaker 1>space of like one shoot. Yeah, So cuttlefish can be

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<v Speaker 1>hard to track, much like Tom Cruise. Yeah, they're amazing animals. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a hundred and twenty species of cuttlefish. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming a lot of people out there have seen

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. Either you've seen him in uh or her

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<v Speaker 1>in on a YouTube video, or you've you've you watched

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<v Speaker 1>Life you know especially yeah, or you've seen him at

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<v Speaker 1>seen him at a various aquarium. So like here in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we've had them, Um for different periods. You

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<v Speaker 1>were seeing aquarium. You're saying you saw him in Monterey, right, Yes, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>my wife and I went out to California recently and

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<v Speaker 1>we went to the Monterey Aquarium and we had a

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<v Speaker 1>gotta we we gotta special treat when we popped in there,

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<v Speaker 1>because the cuttlefish were actually breeding and depositing eggs. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was like super magical. We almost skipped over it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, oh, cuttlefish, Well, we're about ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've seen cuttlefish before, but we ain't even

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<v Speaker 1>gett ended up getting sucked in by you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>colors and the cuteness and lo and behold they were breeding.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was awesome. They also have some really

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<v Speaker 1>cool cuttlefish up at the aquarium in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Good

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<v Speaker 1>to know, Good to know. Um eyes, Their eyes are amazing, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there they have. They're highly developed, like like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the cephalopods, and they have these W shaped pupils.

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<v Speaker 1>So the interesting thing is they're color blind, but like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of animals that live on the depths of

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean floor, they're great with low light. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it, humans are you know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good vision and we can do cool things like

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<v Speaker 1>we shape our lenses to zoom in. But the cuttlefish

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<v Speaker 1>can actually reshape its entire eye, which I found fascinating. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. Uh. And then of course tentacles or arms.

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<v Speaker 1>Tentacles and arms, that's a major feature. They tend to

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<v Speaker 1>have some sort of um, you know, slipped together. It

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<v Speaker 1>kind of look you know, it's kind of almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a It reminds me of like a hairstyle or something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. They have them slipped together almost into like

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<v Speaker 1>a beak shape, you know, very aerodynamic and I'm thinking mohawk.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's but they have they have eight sucker

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<v Speaker 1>lined arms and two tentacles. Those are the longer deals

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<v Speaker 1>to grass prey or or to grasp other cuttlefish, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what the altercations. Yeah. Yeah, it's also used

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<v Speaker 1>in breeding. Yeah, and they have a beak, which apparently

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<v Speaker 1>freaks Josh Clark out for some reason. Yeah. They did

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<v Speaker 1>recently did a podcast on octopi and uh and apparently

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<v Speaker 1>Josh was just freaking out over the fact that cephalopods

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<v Speaker 1>have have little beaks. We don't. I mean, I can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of understand Josh's concerned on this one. I tend

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<v Speaker 1>to think of beaks being associated mostly with land animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Land they ye like, so it's not creepy if a

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<v Speaker 1>bird has a beak, but if if a cephalopod has

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<v Speaker 1>a beak, and it's crazy. Yeah, I think it's My

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<v Speaker 1>wife finds like beaks and birds to be really creepy,

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<v Speaker 1>like especially big big birds, not big bird, but like

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<v Speaker 1>large birds. Like you know, if you got to like

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<v Speaker 1>to our Thomas a little restaurant here in the line

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<v Speaker 1>where they have cages outside with like two cans and stuff. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>like that freaks her out because I think all she

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<v Speaker 1>can think about her like like them sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>pecking your eyes with their big beaks or or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their little black tongues. Yeah, there's a freaky scenario. Birds are. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they also have a little little hover skirt

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a fin. Yeah. The fin is really awesome

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like like a single kind of wavery fin

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<v Speaker 1>thing that like curves all the way around there. They're

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're behind and uh and it does it just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like undulates, you know, and uh and they

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<v Speaker 1>get a massive amount of maneuverability with that. They can

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much move in any direction, you know, at the

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<v Speaker 1>drop of a hat. It's it's it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you really get a hovering sensation watching them. They're just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like drifting or just hanging in one spot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that is until they fire up the jet propulsion. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that happens when they suck the water into their

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<v Speaker 1>mantle cavity and then they force it back out through

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<v Speaker 1>the funnel. And that's just the opening located right under

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<v Speaker 1>the head. So they do this when they want to

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<v Speaker 1>change direction speed and it kind of swivels the funnel

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<v Speaker 1>or it narrows it to intensify that blast of water. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty cool. They're gonna awesome that they have jet propulsion.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. Don't you wish you had jet propulsion? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really? You know, you see your editor coming towards

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<v Speaker 1>you with a red lined draft of a paper you

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<v Speaker 1>work so hard on. You know what, I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like dealing with us. You turn on the jet propulsion,

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<v Speaker 1>you high tail it at Well, okay, I would go

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<v Speaker 1>for the jet propulsion provided I had another defense mechanism.

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<v Speaker 1>That the cuttlefish has um And again this is another

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<v Speaker 1>thing it squares it shares with certain squid, and that

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<v Speaker 1>that is that it has an ink sac. All right, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but but here's the thing that's really amazing. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody knows that like an ink sac. Okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the a squid or a cuttlefish can create like a

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<v Speaker 1>smoke screen of ink and then fleet the scene all right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's nothing compared to their The secondary use of

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<v Speaker 1>the of the ink, and that is to create what

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<v Speaker 1>is called a pseudomorph. It means false form, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>basically bubbles of ink surrounded by mucus, and it's they

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<v Speaker 1>shoot it out and it kind of occupies the same

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<v Speaker 1>amount of space that the squid with that the that

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<v Speaker 1>the cuttlefish would be in. But here's the deal. Right

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<v Speaker 1>before they shoot it out, they turn really dark, so

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<v Speaker 1>that the cuttlefish turns really dark, shoots out this black

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<v Speaker 1>mass that's roughly the same shape and right right, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the cuttlefish turns like white and then uses the

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<v Speaker 1>jets to speed away. So then the press so the

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<v Speaker 1>predator sees this dark cuttlefish jump, you know, speeds in

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<v Speaker 1>to eat it, and then the couple fish you know,

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<v Speaker 1>cuts out, and then the attacker ends up biting into

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<v Speaker 1>this big blob of ink and mucus. Yeah. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I had that defense, and you were to bring me

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<v Speaker 1>some paper that I didn't want to deal with at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, I would just you know, I hit the inks,

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<v Speaker 1>drop a pseudomorphic, and then get out of there, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you'd be you'd be having this conversation about the

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<v Speaker 1>about this latest draft, with this big pile of inc communcus. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>my sense of smell would be temporarily parallels because the

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<v Speaker 1>inc can contain dopamine and a precursor to dopamine. Some

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there confused and I have no sense of smell,

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<v Speaker 1>and Robert has gone, He's fled the scene. See these

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<v Speaker 1>the couple wish have it figured out. These are just

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<v Speaker 1>amazing creatures and we're not even we're not even halfway

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<v Speaker 1>through without everything that's that's cool about them. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just like it's like if you went to

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<v Speaker 1>a car dealership to buy um, like an animal, or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, your local cephalopod dealership, and you're like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>show me something that's just just has it, just has

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<v Speaker 1>all the features. They would pull out the cuttlefish because

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<v Speaker 1>these guys just have everything. Well, not to mention their brain, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>these are these are pretty uh smart creatures, pretty braining creatures. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They have one of the largest brain to body size

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<v Speaker 1>ratios of any invertebrate out there, and uh, as active predators,

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<v Speaker 1>they really need that brain to kind of help them

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<v Speaker 1>react to their environment and you know, even learn some

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<v Speaker 1>new tricks. Yeah, and it kind of comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>like they need that big brain because again, they have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of really cool features. It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Hawkings wheelchair, Um, which I'm so curious to see

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<v Speaker 1>where you're going with. Well, this is a fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I I meant to mention in our Stephen Hawking podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just going to try to work it into

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<v Speaker 1>the tuttle Well no, it just was not a conscious effort.

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<v Speaker 1>But but now Stephen Hawkings wheelchair has like all this

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<v Speaker 1>like crazy computer stuff on it, you know, because he

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<v Speaker 1>depends on it to comm know, to communicate and he's

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<v Speaker 1>just constantly plugged in. Yeah, wait, what are you saying

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<v Speaker 1>that IBM send some spanking new fantasy periodically. Yeah. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>may have to correct me on that, but I'll believe

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<v Speaker 1>fits right. He gets the latest tech, it's my understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>But he also needs the equivalent of a car battery

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<v Speaker 1>to run it all, whereas like a normally you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a powered wheelchair would have a less robust battery.

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<v Speaker 1>So the cuttle fish is in a position where it

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of really awesome features and it needs

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<v Speaker 1>a high you know caliber brain. Tip to run it all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not reading books or anything, but it's so you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's supercharged when it comes to things like camouflage.

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<v Speaker 1>They never they don't have a cuttle fish on record

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<v Speaker 1>of reading Tolster or anything like that. Huh. They might

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<v Speaker 1>they might be doing some audio books. You know. You

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<v Speaker 1>hear these voices on the Adego books. You never really

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<v Speaker 1>see these guys that could it could be a cuttlefish. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And and the brain is also really important in directing

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<v Speaker 1>the pigment producing cells and and directing its camouflage activities

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<v Speaker 1>Tolstoy camouflage, you know. Yeah, before we get into the

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<v Speaker 1>camouflage hardcore though, just a couple other quick anatomical facts. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they're obviously they're really cute animals. And they have three hearts,

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<v Speaker 1>which may or may not be related to the cuteness,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is more likely related to the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they need two hearts to pump their blue green blood

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<v Speaker 1>to the gills and one to circulate oxygenated blood to

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the body. They can't hear them, I really,

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<v Speaker 1>but they do detect sound in the form of pressure waves,

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<v Speaker 1>and how do they do that? By the way, have

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<v Speaker 1>some handy lateral at the dermal lines, they feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the wave pressure. I think that's why I thought, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the way it works. Um and again

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<v Speaker 1>before we we're getting to the camouflage. But just a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of other interesting things about them. Size. When it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the size of these cuttlefish, the smallest species

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<v Speaker 1>grows to be about three inches long, and I believe

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<v Speaker 1>these are typically like occupied like sort of tidal areas,

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<v Speaker 1>like tidal pool areas. And then the largest of the species,

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<v Speaker 1>which is called the broad club cuttlefish, which sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a real thug of a of a sea creature. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the club, I think is what gives you that broad

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<v Speaker 1>club cuttle fit like it takes the you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>think of cuttle we think of you know, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like kittens spooning each other something. But but but and

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<v Speaker 1>so you think of that when you when you elliot,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know it's not the same just to

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<v Speaker 1>clare yet it's a different word. But then when you

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<v Speaker 1>throw broad club on there, it's like they just totally

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<v Speaker 1>throws it out and those suckers can get too, to

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<v Speaker 1>be like five and a half feet long. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the the common cuttle fish is more than the three

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<v Speaker 1>foot range. I'm also excited that there is a species

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<v Speaker 1>known as um Feefer's flamboyant cuttlefish. Those are the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are able to um kind of walk along the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>They're apparently the only type of cuttle fish that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of walks along. And then they're really cool looking. They're

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<v Speaker 1>very I don't know the pictures I saw, they were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a dark red kind of thing, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're cuttlefish, so I imagine that changes depending on,

0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:38.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, seasonal fashions. Yeah, they're fickle, those cuttlefish. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk a little bit of about their camouflage. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they can, like we said, they can change from like

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<v Speaker 1>white to purple and a flash. Uh. They appear to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of pulsate with light, you know, the very magical

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<v Speaker 1>looking iridescent, and then the very um surface of their

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<v Speaker 1>skin can sort of change, like it'll look look, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just soft to the touch at one at one point,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it'll kind of creakle into this, uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>rocky surface and you know, just again it happened so subtly,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you're watching them in a tank, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a trick of the eye almost because because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they'll do like a quick flash here and

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<v Speaker 1>there where those are Suddenly there are different colors, Suddenly

0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.040
<v Speaker 1>their texture changes. But a lot of it's just really subtle,

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<v Speaker 1>like a mood ring or something. Yeah, and all that

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<v Speaker 1>awesome camouflage action is controlled by the chromatophores, which we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just mentioned, and those are just the pigment cells,

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<v Speaker 1>and a heck of a lot of pigment cells too.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking ten million, as many as ten million, so

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<v Speaker 1>if you think about that per square millimeter, that's roughly

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<v Speaker 1>two square millimeter, so that's a lot. That's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have these muscles that are attached to the

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<v Speaker 1>chromatophores and they tighten and relax to control which color

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<v Speaker 1>is displayed. Cool, and then the changeable texture that I

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about, that's due to bundles of muscles that

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<v Speaker 1>that are that are also under the skin that changed

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<v Speaker 1>the surface. So that's that's another component of the disguise.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I feel like if I were in a

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<v Speaker 1>bad mood, I would definitely want that spiky surface, you know,

0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.000
<v Speaker 1>stay away from me. I'm feeling kind of spiky. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I could I can see that being the case. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be like imagine, well, let's let's get through the

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<v Speaker 1>next component and then we'll imagine what life would be

0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.920
<v Speaker 1>like if we had these abilities. Because they also have

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<v Speaker 1>these reflecting plates. Um underneath, yeah, underneath the chromatophors, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the where you get that, like I said, that

0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:33.040
<v Speaker 1>irridescent reflection kind of thing going on. Those have a vocabulary,

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<v Speaker 1>so all that color comes in handy to communicate. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily highly social, but they are able to communicate

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<v Speaker 1>as many I think as forty different signals biologists have identified. Yeah,

0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.440
<v Speaker 1>they've they've identified like forty different you know, combinations of

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<v Speaker 1>color and texture and all that that seemed to mean

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<v Speaker 1>a certain thing in the cuplefish world and between cuttlefish. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, vocabulary is a nice comfy human term

0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.840
<v Speaker 1>we throw at it. But but yeah, forty different different signals.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, UM display, zebra display. Have you ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>one do this? By the way, I've definitely seen photos

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but it seems like when I see him

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<v Speaker 1>in tanks. No, I think I think I have seen

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<v Speaker 1>a zebra display. Right, So, zebra display, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>watch out because that's basically communicating I'm a mail, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>ready to do get out. Yeah, it's like humans have

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<v Speaker 1>their I think all animals have their zebra displays. They

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<v Speaker 1>just what is the human zebra display? How do we display?

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<v Speaker 1>How do humans display anger? Well? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of see a zebra display on Marta sometimes, Like

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you'll see like the dude that's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>that's um, he'll kind of like he'll put it like

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<v Speaker 1>a small bag in the Marta seat next to him

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<v Speaker 1>and he kind of sits there was like kind of

0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.160
<v Speaker 1>a tough guy. Look, you know, it's it's silly in

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<v Speaker 1>this all body language and all, but it's kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a dude, don't sit next to me. You know,

0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm tough. Don't mess with me kind of a thing. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Or maybe you make eye contact for a second and

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of holds your glance and then you look around,

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<v Speaker 1>you look away real fast. Yeah, yeah, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The stink ye if you will, I guess the stink

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<v Speaker 1>ey is more of uh like it's not really it's

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<v Speaker 1>a different thing. You guys, MS you should be in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio with us, because Robert just trying to do

0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the stink eye, which was kind of funny. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine if though you like our our daily lives, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we again we have body lane, which we have

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<v Speaker 1>our our our facial like micro expressions. But imagine like

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<v Speaker 1>were like super pronounced and we you know, we communicated

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<v Speaker 1>through flashes of color and and and weird textures and

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<v Speaker 1>and iridescent displays. It would be pretty pretty amazing. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's one group of researchers from Woods, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Woods Whole Marine Biology Laboratory in Massachusetts that are looking

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<v Speaker 1>into the possibility that that that that that that iridescent

0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:45.960
<v Speaker 1>display relates to this thing they call light polar polarization signaling.

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<v Speaker 1>That means that there's just there's like an entirely different

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<v Speaker 1>layer of communication. It's like a very subtle communication that

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<v Speaker 1>they're pulling off between each other based on the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shimmering uh displays that you see go on and

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<v Speaker 1>with their skin. So we might be picking up the

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<v Speaker 1>obviously were display, but there's another signal. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do the subtext I guess, you know, to the cuttlefish subtext.

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<v Speaker 1>I like them. So one of the most interesting signs

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<v Speaker 1>that for aggression that they have is that the peace signal?

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<v Speaker 1>You're telling me about this? This is cool? So they

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<v Speaker 1>hold up the two uh fingers are arms. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>hold up a couple of the arms, um and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of and it looks a lot like like right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm holding up two fingers like I'm doing the

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<v Speaker 1>peace signal, um, the peace sign and uh. Apparently if

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<v Speaker 1>they're if they're in a situation where they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>intimidate somebody, reward off something, if the colors don't work,

0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:42.160
<v Speaker 1>they'll raise those two uh, those two arms up. So

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have divers apparently that when they're diving down and

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with cuttlefish as a lark, they will they'll they'll

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<v Speaker 1>give the peace sign to the cuttlefish and the cuttlefish

0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:54.560
<v Speaker 1>will give the peace sign back. Though they're totally different meanings.

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<v Speaker 1>The you know, the the human diver is doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, out of humor and out of a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of peace. He doesn't want to harm the cuttlefish. Generally,

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<v Speaker 1>I would out, and the cuttlefish is saying, stay the

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<v Speaker 1>heck away from me. Yeah, wellmo, I'm gonna blast you

0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.359
<v Speaker 1>with the pseudomorph if you don't watch out, buddy, I

0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:14.000
<v Speaker 1>love the pseudomorphos. That's amazing. People would probably be a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good band name too. Let's talk about the mating though.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really where the cuttlefish shines. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty pretty awesome. And there's a whole segment on life

0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.280
<v Speaker 1>that deals with this from the Underwater Creatures episode. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a gender bender, Yes, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>gender bender. Like it basically breaks down to in the

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<v Speaker 1>male In the world of male cuttlefish, you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>have two types of dudes. You have the big it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like you've ever seen those like the cartoons

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<v Speaker 1>of the old, like nineteen fifties type of things where

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<v Speaker 1>you have the wormy guy on the beach and he

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<v Speaker 1>goes out there with his girlfriend and then the big

0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.879
<v Speaker 1>muscle dude kicks sand on him. Well, that's that's the

0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:54.880
<v Speaker 1>same thing that's going on here. We have the big,

0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.400
<v Speaker 1>beefy cuttlefish that are out on the beach to pick

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<v Speaker 1>up a chick. And then there's the wormy dude that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, might have brought his his book, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with him to read his his you know, sci fi

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<v Speaker 1>collection or something um. And so, so those are the

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<v Speaker 1>two guys out there vying for the for the females.

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<v Speaker 1>So when it comes down to muscle, there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>one winner, of course, right right, and that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the broad beefy guy. But that's not to say

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<v Speaker 1>that the female cuttlefish won't let the the more petite

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<v Speaker 1>male approach. And the petite male has to be really

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<v Speaker 1>careful about this because nobody wants to get beat up

0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.360
<v Speaker 1>cuttlefish style or in real life. Yeah they can really,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen some images of them tearing it up down there,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can get pretty vicious in their their their fights.

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<v Speaker 1>So the smaller size cuttlefish will change its colors to

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<v Speaker 1>reflect the coloration of a female, yeah, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like make himself small and submissive posturing type, you know,

0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and it will get real close to the female, the

0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:52.600
<v Speaker 1>mate that it has identified, and that's how it wins

0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the battle. And that's really how the broad beefy guys

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<v Speaker 1>and the you know, smaller, petite, perhaps more intelligent gender

0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:03.160
<v Speaker 1>bender cuttlefish coexis. Yeah, and because it's like both both

0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:05.280
<v Speaker 1>variants of the cuttle fish are important for the survival

0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.440
<v Speaker 1>of the species. So yeah, you have the big the

0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.479
<v Speaker 1>big b female cuttlefish will be hanging out there with

0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.720
<v Speaker 1>the the the female it hopes to mate with, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it sees this other female. It thinks it's a

0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.160
<v Speaker 1>female coming over, and it's like, oh, that's great, maybe

0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.040
<v Speaker 1>i'll mate with that one next, not knowing that that

0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:24.320
<v Speaker 1>is a male coming over to totally steal his lady. Yeah,

0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the female is a smart one here, she's perpetuating the

0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:31.080
<v Speaker 1>broader genetic pool. Yeah, it's it's uh, it's it's also

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<v Speaker 1>important taken to account the way they mate. The male

0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.400
<v Speaker 1>uses the modified arm to transfer his genetic material into

0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:41.399
<v Speaker 1>the female's bogle area sounds yeah, and the part of

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<v Speaker 1>her mouth that stores the males uh spermatophors for use later.

0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Like she actually then takes the this kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>packaged prepackaged sperm and then puts it on the eggs later.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, if she has like a little from

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<v Speaker 1>column A and a little from column B, then that's

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<v Speaker 1>great because she wand up having this mixed offspring that

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<v Speaker 1>will can be both you know, the smaller sleeker um

0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, stealthier dudes and the big tough ones. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>why limen your options, ladies. Yeah, and and then she'll

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<v Speaker 1>of course want to keep that protected, so she'll store

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<v Speaker 1>her eggs and you know, in rocks or in a

0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:22.200
<v Speaker 1>nice handy discarded shell or something like that. Yeah, and

0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.159
<v Speaker 1>and that's again like I've got we actually got to

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<v Speaker 1>see those, uh, those those eggs when we went tom

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<v Speaker 1>on Hoey. It was really really cool. Yeah. I also

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<v Speaker 1>advise going over to the Life site and we're in

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<v Speaker 1>discovery if you're at all interested in the cuttlefish, are

0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:36.240
<v Speaker 1>learning a little bit more about these guys in action,

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<v Speaker 1>because it really is amazing footage. And hats off to

0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the men and women who captured this on film because

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<v Speaker 1>again I cannot imagine how complicated it must have been

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<v Speaker 1>to sort out all the different characters and the cuttlefish drama.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and the results are just completely splendid. Like

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<v Speaker 1>just definitely definitely check check it out if even if

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<v Speaker 1>you only check out like some some video on the site,

0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:00.720
<v Speaker 1>you know. Um. And and also on the site, we

0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.199
<v Speaker 1>have a whole bunch of articles that that that we

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<v Speaker 1>wrote and put together. Uh. Like for instance, I interviewed

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<v Speaker 1>Life producer Neil Lucas about this very scene, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was the one who told me the whole story about

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<v Speaker 1>the editing woes and uh, and he had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of just you know, funny things to say about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his experience with the Cuddle. That was a fun project.

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<v Speaker 1>Gual talked to a lot of cool BBC producers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a lot of fun. Got got to making

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of phone calls to the UK. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to move into a listener man, Yes, um, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually have a really cool one here and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>response to our to a recent episode we did about

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<v Speaker 1>Sniper's Military Snipers. So this comes from Gabriel in Chicago, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, Hi, all, I just finished hearing the episode

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<v Speaker 1>on Snipers, and you should know that the sniper duel

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<v Speaker 1>versus Sniper Wolf referenced in the show actually happened in

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<v Speaker 1>Metal Gear Solid one. We're talking about video games here,

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<v Speaker 1>not to I must have said it was too And

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of which, that duel was recreated in Metal Gear

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<v Speaker 1>Solid four, where you were locked in Mortal Kombat with

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<v Speaker 1>crying Wolf while evading our soldiers in Blizzard conditions. The

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<v Speaker 1>other difference is that she can smell you. Coming. Definitely

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<v Speaker 1>give that game a try. It's excellent if you like

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<v Speaker 1>sniper duels and metal Gear. Uh, the one in in

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<v Speaker 1>Metal Gear solid three is in my opinion, the best

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<v Speaker 1>one um and he says actually nerd lecture aside. I

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<v Speaker 1>love this podcast, which is definitely one of my faiths.

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<v Speaker 1>I did have a question though, how do they calculate

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<v Speaker 1>how many calories food has? And how do they determine

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<v Speaker 1>how much activity it takes to burn one off? I

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<v Speaker 1>love the Gabriel is kind of a man of wide

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<v Speaker 1>ranging interests. Well, I feel like a lot of our

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<v Speaker 1>interest I mean a lot of our our listeners have

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<v Speaker 1>to be because you know, we're talking about snipers one day,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's cuttlefish and then it's composting, so you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's kind of a renaissance men. It's so anyway, Gabriel,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for straightening me out on my metal gear.

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<v Speaker 1>Because play that game, Robert part back. I've got too

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<v Speaker 1>many games I have to play. It's just I'll never play.

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