1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff from the Science Lab from how stuff 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: works dot com. Hey guys, welcome to the podcast. This 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: is Alison an't like the science center at how stuff 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: works dot com. And this is Robert Lamb, science writer 5 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: at how stuff works dot com. And you know, today 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: we are talking about like what is probably the most 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: boss animal in the entire ocean. We're talking about and 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: also the cutest, the cuttlefish. The cutest. I would like 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: to cuttle up to cuttleish, wouldn't you. Yeah, I mean 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: they look kind of like, uh, there's something kind of 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: like kitten like about them when you see him at 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: the aquarium. Indeed, I do think kittens when I see 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: cuttle fish. Yeah, Like you know how like like a 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: cattle can of like ball up and be like a 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: little you know, a little handful of cat. Well, it's 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: like like cuttlefish kind of have that look going on 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: most of the time, you know, and they're they're hovering 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: around and their little their little tanks and and you know, 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: changing colors wildly. It's it's amazing stuff. Yeah, we get 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: interested in cuttlefish back when we did life um in 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: the beginning of two thousand ten, we did all sorts 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: of interesting articles on cuttlefish, and one of them was 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: this really amazing sequence in Life in which the videographers 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: had a pretty tough task. Yeah. Yeah, they were trying 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: to you know, they have all this footage that they 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: shot on the ocean floor and and it's not you know, 27 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: when you go down on to the ocean Florida to 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: shoot something like cuttlefish mating, it's not just like, all right, 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna turn on the camera and then when we 30 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: turn it off we have our footage. No, it's like 31 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: shooting stuff here and there, and you know, and it's 32 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: it's all out of sequence, and it's like shooting a movie, right, 33 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: And then you get it back, you hand it over 34 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: to the editors and they start trying to piece it together. 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: And there's a pretty tricky factor here those because they're 36 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: changing colors. It's like one second, this uh, this cuttlefish 37 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: is small and white, and then it's like it's changed 38 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: it's texture, it's dark purple, and it's over here, you know, 39 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: and it's all happening in the space of seconds. So yes, 40 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: imagine if you were like the you know, the editor 41 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: on a film, and you were you had shot like 42 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: Tom Cruise. But Tom Cruise kept like morphing into other people, 43 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, and you're like, oh, well his range isn't 44 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: that soul. But occasionally he does morph into another person, 45 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: you know, and yeah on Oprah or you know, interview 46 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: with the Vampire or something. You know, it's like, but 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: but what all that was happening, you know, in the 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: space of like one shoot. Yeah, So cuttlefish can be 49 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: hard to track, much like Tom Cruise. Yeah, they're amazing animals. Yeah, 50 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 1: there are a hundred and twenty species of cuttlefish. And uh, 51 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: I'm assuming a lot of people out there have seen 52 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: this guy. Either you've seen him in uh or her 53 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: in on a YouTube video, or you've you've you watched 54 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: Life you know especially yeah, or you've seen him at 55 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: seen him at a various aquarium. So like here in Atlanta, 56 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: I know we've had them, Um for different periods. You 57 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: were seeing aquarium. You're saying you saw him in Monterey, right, Yes, Um, 58 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: my wife and I went out to California recently and 59 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: we went to the Monterey Aquarium and we had a 60 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: gotta we we gotta special treat when we popped in there, 61 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: because the cuttlefish were actually breeding and depositing eggs. So 62 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: it was like super magical. We almost skipped over it. 63 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: We're like, oh, cuttlefish, Well, we're about ready to go. 64 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: You know, we've seen cuttlefish before, but we ain't even 65 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: gett ended up getting sucked in by you know, the 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: colors and the cuteness and lo and behold they were breeding. 67 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: It was it was awesome. They also have some really 68 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: cool cuttlefish up at the aquarium in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Good 69 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: to know, Good to know. Um eyes, Their eyes are amazing, right, yeah, yeah, 70 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: there they have. They're highly developed, like like a lot 71 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: of the cephalopods, and they have these W shaped pupils. 72 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: So the interesting thing is they're color blind, but like 73 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: a lot of animals that live on the depths of 74 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: the ocean floor, they're great with low light. So when 75 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: you think about it, humans are you know, we have 76 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: pretty good vision and we can do cool things like 77 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: we shape our lenses to zoom in. But the cuttlefish 78 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: can actually reshape its entire eye, which I found fascinating. Yeah, 79 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Uh. And then of course tentacles or arms. 80 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: Tentacles and arms, that's a major feature. They tend to 81 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: have some sort of um, you know, slipped together. It 82 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: kind of look you know, it's kind of almost like 83 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: a It reminds me of like a hairstyle or something. 84 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: You know. They have them slipped together almost into like 85 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: a beak shape, you know, very aerodynamic and I'm thinking mohawk. 86 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's but they have they have eight sucker 87 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: lined arms and two tentacles. Those are the longer deals 88 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: to grass prey or or to grasp other cuttlefish, you know, 89 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: depending on what the altercations. Yeah. Yeah, it's also used 90 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: in breeding. Yeah, and they have a beak, which apparently 91 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: freaks Josh Clark out for some reason. Yeah. They did 92 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: recently did a podcast on octopi and uh and apparently 93 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: Josh was just freaking out over the fact that cephalopods 94 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: have have little beaks. We don't. I mean, I can 95 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: kind of understand Josh's concerned on this one. I tend 96 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: to think of beaks being associated mostly with land animals. 97 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: Land they ye like, so it's not creepy if a 98 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: bird has a beak, but if if a cephalopod has 99 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: a beak, and it's crazy. Yeah, I think it's My 100 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: wife finds like beaks and birds to be really creepy, 101 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: like especially big big birds, not big bird, but like 102 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: large birds. Like you know, if you got to like 103 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: to our Thomas a little restaurant here in the line 104 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: where they have cages outside with like two cans and stuff. Um, 105 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: like that freaks her out because I think all she 106 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: can think about her like like them sort of like 107 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: pecking your eyes with their big beaks or or you know, 108 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: their little black tongues. Yeah, there's a freaky scenario. Birds are. Yeah, 109 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: and then they also have a little little hover skirt 110 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,119 Speaker 1: kind of a fin. Yeah. The fin is really awesome 111 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: because it's like like a single kind of wavery fin 112 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: thing that like curves all the way around there. They're 113 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: they're they're behind and uh and it does it just 114 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: kind of like undulates, you know, and uh and they 115 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: get a massive amount of maneuverability with that. They can 116 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: pretty much move in any direction, you know, at the 117 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: drop of a hat. It's it's it's like, you know, 118 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: you really get a hovering sensation watching them. They're just 119 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: kind of like drifting or just hanging in one spot. Yeah, 120 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: that is until they fire up the jet propulsion. Oh yeah, 121 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: and that happens when they suck the water into their 122 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: mantle cavity and then they force it back out through 123 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: the funnel. And that's just the opening located right under 124 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: the head. So they do this when they want to 125 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: change direction speed and it kind of swivels the funnel 126 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: or it narrows it to intensify that blast of water. Yeah, 127 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. They're gonna awesome that they have jet propulsion. 128 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: It is. Don't you wish you had jet propulsion? Um? 129 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: Not really? You know, you see your editor coming towards 130 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: you with a red lined draft of a paper you 131 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: work so hard on. You know what, I don't feel 132 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: like dealing with us. You turn on the jet propulsion, 133 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: you high tail it at Well, okay, I would go 134 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 1: for the jet propulsion provided I had another defense mechanism. 135 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: That the cuttlefish has um And again this is another 136 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: thing it squares it shares with certain squid, and that 137 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: that is that it has an ink sac. All right, um, 138 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: but but here's the thing that's really amazing. All right, 139 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: everybody knows that like an ink sac. Okay, you know, 140 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: the a squid or a cuttlefish can create like a 141 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: smoke screen of ink and then fleet the scene all right, 142 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: that's that's nothing compared to their The secondary use of 143 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: the of the ink, and that is to create what 144 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: is called a pseudomorph. It means false form, and it's 145 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: basically bubbles of ink surrounded by mucus, and it's they 146 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: shoot it out and it kind of occupies the same 147 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: amount of space that the squid with that the that 148 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: the cuttlefish would be in. But here's the deal. Right 149 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: before they shoot it out, they turn really dark, so 150 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: that the cuttlefish turns really dark, shoots out this black 151 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: mass that's roughly the same shape and right right, and 152 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: then the cuttlefish turns like white and then uses the 153 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: jets to speed away. So then the press so the 154 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: predator sees this dark cuttlefish jump, you know, speeds in 155 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: to eat it, and then the couple fish you know, 156 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: cuts out, and then the attacker ends up biting into 157 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: this big blob of ink and mucus. Yeah. So if 158 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: I had that defense, and you were to bring me 159 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: some paper that I didn't want to deal with at 160 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: the moment, I would just you know, I hit the inks, 161 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: drop a pseudomorphic, and then get out of there, and 162 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: then you'd be you'd be having this conversation about the 163 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: about this latest draft, with this big pile of inc communcus. Also, 164 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: my sense of smell would be temporarily parallels because the 165 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: inc can contain dopamine and a precursor to dopamine. Some 166 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there confused and I have no sense of smell, 167 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: and Robert has gone, He's fled the scene. See these 168 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: the couple wish have it figured out. These are just 169 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: amazing creatures and we're not even we're not even halfway 170 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: through without everything that's that's cool about them. I mean, 171 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: this is just like it's like if you went to 172 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: a car dealership to buy um, like an animal, or 173 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, your local cephalopod dealership, and you're like, all right, 174 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: show me something that's just just has it, just has 175 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: all the features. They would pull out the cuttlefish because 176 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: these guys just have everything. Well, not to mention their brain, right, Yeah, 177 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: these are these are pretty uh smart creatures, pretty braining creatures. Yeah. 178 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: They have one of the largest brain to body size 179 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: ratios of any invertebrate out there, and uh, as active predators, 180 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: they really need that brain to kind of help them 181 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: react to their environment and you know, even learn some 182 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: new tricks. Yeah, and it kind of comes down to 183 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: like they need that big brain because again, they have 184 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: a lot of really cool features. It's kind of like 185 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: Stephen Hawkings wheelchair, Um, which I'm so curious to see 186 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: where you're going with. Well, this is a fact that 187 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: I I meant to mention in our Stephen Hawking podcast 188 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: and it's just going to try to work it into 189 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: the tuttle Well no, it just was not a conscious effort. 190 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: But but now Stephen Hawkings wheelchair has like all this 191 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: like crazy computer stuff on it, you know, because he 192 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: depends on it to comm know, to communicate and he's 193 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: just constantly plugged in. Yeah, wait, what are you saying 194 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: that IBM send some spanking new fantasy periodically. Yeah. Someone 195 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: may have to correct me on that, but I'll believe 196 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: fits right. He gets the latest tech, it's my understanding, 197 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: But he also needs the equivalent of a car battery 198 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: to run it all, whereas like a normally you know, um, 199 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, a powered wheelchair would have a less robust battery. 200 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: So the cuttle fish is in a position where it 201 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: has a lot of really awesome features and it needs 202 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: a high you know caliber brain. Tip to run it all. 203 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: It's not reading books or anything, but it's so you 204 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: think it's supercharged when it comes to things like camouflage. 205 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: They never they don't have a cuttle fish on record 206 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: of reading Tolster or anything like that. Huh. They might 207 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: they might be doing some audio books. You know. You 208 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: hear these voices on the Adego books. You never really 209 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: see these guys that could it could be a cuttlefish. Yeah. 210 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: And and the brain is also really important in directing 211 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: the pigment producing cells and and directing its camouflage activities 212 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: Tolstoy camouflage, you know. Yeah, before we get into the 213 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: camouflage hardcore though, just a couple other quick anatomical facts. Um, 214 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: they're obviously they're really cute animals. And they have three hearts, 215 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: which may or may not be related to the cuteness, 216 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: but it is more likely related to the fact that 217 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: they need two hearts to pump their blue green blood 218 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: to the gills and one to circulate oxygenated blood to 219 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: the rest of the body. They can't hear them, I really, 220 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: but they do detect sound in the form of pressure waves, 221 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: and how do they do that? By the way, have 222 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: some handy lateral at the dermal lines, they feel like 223 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: the wave pressure. I think that's why I thought, yeah, yeah, 224 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: I think that's the way it works. Um and again 225 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: before we we're getting to the camouflage. But just a 226 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: couple of other interesting things about them. Size. When it 227 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: comes to the size of these cuttlefish, the smallest species 228 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: grows to be about three inches long, and I believe 229 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: these are typically like occupied like sort of tidal areas, 230 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: like tidal pool areas. And then the largest of the species, 231 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: which is called the broad club cuttlefish, which sounds like 232 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: a real thug of a of a sea creature. Yeah, 233 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: the club, I think is what gives you that broad 234 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: club cuttle fit like it takes the you know, we 235 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: think of cuttle we think of you know, like you know, 236 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: like kittens spooning each other something. But but but and 237 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: so you think of that when you when you elliot, 238 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, I know it's not the same just to 239 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: clare yet it's a different word. But then when you 240 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: throw broad club on there, it's like they just totally 241 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: throws it out and those suckers can get too, to 242 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: be like five and a half feet long. And then 243 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: the the common cuttle fish is more than the three 244 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: foot range. I'm also excited that there is a species 245 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: known as um Feefer's flamboyant cuttlefish. Those are the guys 246 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: that are able to um kind of walk along the ocean. 247 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: They're apparently the only type of cuttle fish that kind 248 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: of walks along. And then they're really cool looking. They're 249 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: very I don't know the pictures I saw, they were 250 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: kind of a dark red kind of thing, but um, 251 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, they're cuttlefish, so I imagine that changes depending on, 252 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, seasonal fashions. Yeah, they're fickle, those cuttlefish. So 253 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit of about their camouflage. Okay, Yeah, 254 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: they can, like we said, they can change from like 255 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: white to purple and a flash. Uh. They appear to 256 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: sort of pulsate with light, you know, the very magical 257 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: looking iridescent, and then the very um surface of their 258 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: skin can sort of change, like it'll look look, you know, 259 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: just soft to the touch at one at one point, 260 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: and then it'll kind of creakle into this, uh, this 261 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: rocky surface and you know, just again it happened so subtly, 262 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: like if you're watching them in a tank, it's it's 263 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: it's like a trick of the eye almost because because 264 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: I mean they'll do like a quick flash here and 265 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: there where those are Suddenly there are different colors, Suddenly 266 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: their texture changes. But a lot of it's just really subtle, 267 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: like a mood ring or something. Yeah, and all that 268 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: awesome camouflage action is controlled by the chromatophores, which we 269 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: kind of just mentioned, and those are just the pigment cells, 270 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: and a heck of a lot of pigment cells too. 271 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: We're talking ten million, as many as ten million, so 272 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: if you think about that per square millimeter, that's roughly 273 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: two square millimeter, so that's a lot. That's a lot. 274 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: And they have these muscles that are attached to the 275 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: chromatophores and they tighten and relax to control which color 276 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: is displayed. Cool, and then the changeable texture that I 277 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: was talking about, that's due to bundles of muscles that 278 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: that are that are also under the skin that changed 279 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: the surface. So that's that's another component of the disguise. 280 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like if I were in a 281 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: bad mood, I would definitely want that spiky surface, you know, 282 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: stay away from me. I'm feeling kind of spiky. Yeah, 283 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: I could I can see that being the case. It 284 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: would be like imagine, well, let's let's get through the 285 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: next component and then we'll imagine what life would be 286 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: like if we had these abilities. Because they also have 287 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: these reflecting plates. Um underneath, yeah, underneath the chromatophors, and 288 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: that's the where you get that, like I said, that 289 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: irridescent reflection kind of thing going on. Those have a vocabulary, 290 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: so all that color comes in handy to communicate. You're 291 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: not necessarily highly social, but they are able to communicate 292 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: as many I think as forty different signals biologists have identified. Yeah, 293 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: they've they've identified like forty different you know, combinations of 294 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: color and texture and all that that seemed to mean 295 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: a certain thing in the cuplefish world and between cuttlefish. Um. 296 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: So you know, vocabulary is a nice comfy human term 297 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: we throw at it. But but yeah, forty different different signals. 298 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: For instance, UM display, zebra display. Have you ever seen 299 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: one do this? By the way, I've definitely seen photos 300 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: of it, but it seems like when I see him 301 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: in tanks. No, I think I think I have seen 302 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: a zebra display. Right, So, zebra display, you want to 303 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: watch out because that's basically communicating I'm a mail, I'm 304 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: ready to do get out. Yeah, it's like humans have 305 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: their I think all animals have their zebra displays. They 306 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: just what is the human zebra display? How do we display? 307 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: How do humans display anger? Well? I don't know. I 308 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: kind of see a zebra display on Marta sometimes, Like 309 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: sometimes you'll see like the dude that's kind of like 310 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: that's um, he'll kind of like he'll put it like 311 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: a small bag in the Marta seat next to him 312 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: and he kind of sits there was like kind of 313 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: a tough guy. Look, you know, it's it's silly in 314 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: this all body language and all, but it's kind of like, 315 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm a dude, don't sit next to me. You know, 316 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm tough. Don't mess with me kind of a thing. Yeah. Yeah. 317 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: Or maybe you make eye contact for a second and 318 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: it kind of holds your glance and then you look around, 319 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: you look away real fast. Yeah, yeah, that kind of thing. 320 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: The stink ye if you will, I guess the stink 321 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: ey is more of uh like it's not really it's 322 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: a different thing. You guys, MS you should be in 323 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: the studio with us, because Robert just trying to do 324 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: the stink eye, which was kind of funny. But yeah, 325 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: imagine if though you like our our daily lives, I 326 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: mean we again we have body lane, which we have 327 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: our our our facial like micro expressions. But imagine like 328 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: were like super pronounced and we you know, we communicated 329 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: through flashes of color and and and weird textures and 330 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: and iridescent displays. It would be pretty pretty amazing. In fact, 331 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: there's a there's one group of researchers from Woods, yeah, 332 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: Woods Whole Marine Biology Laboratory in Massachusetts that are looking 333 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: into the possibility that that that that that that iridescent 334 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: display relates to this thing they call light polar polarization signaling. 335 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: That means that there's just there's like an entirely different 336 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: layer of communication. It's like a very subtle communication that 337 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: they're pulling off between each other based on the kind 338 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: of shimmering uh displays that you see go on and 339 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: with their skin. So we might be picking up the 340 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: obviously were display, but there's another signal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 341 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: do the subtext I guess, you know, to the cuttlefish subtext. 342 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: I like them. So one of the most interesting signs 343 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: that for aggression that they have is that the peace signal? 344 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: You're telling me about this? This is cool? So they 345 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: hold up the two uh fingers are arms. Yeah, they 346 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: hold up a couple of the arms, um and kind 347 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: of and it looks a lot like like right now, 348 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm holding up two fingers like I'm doing the 349 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: peace signal, um, the peace sign and uh. Apparently if 350 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: they're if they're in a situation where they're trying to 351 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: intimidate somebody, reward off something, if the colors don't work, 352 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: they'll raise those two uh, those two arms up. So 353 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: you'll have divers apparently that when they're diving down and 354 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: dealing with cuttlefish as a lark, they will they'll they'll 355 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: give the peace sign to the cuttlefish and the cuttlefish 356 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: will give the peace sign back. Though they're totally different meanings. 357 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: The you know, the the human diver is doing it, 358 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, out of humor and out of a sense 359 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: of peace. He doesn't want to harm the cuttlefish. Generally, 360 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: I would out, and the cuttlefish is saying, stay the 361 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: heck away from me. Yeah, wellmo, I'm gonna blast you 362 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: with the pseudomorph if you don't watch out, buddy, I 363 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: love the pseudomorphos. That's amazing. People would probably be a 364 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: pretty good band name too. Let's talk about the mating though. 365 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: This is really where the cuttlefish shines. Yeah, this is 366 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: pretty pretty awesome. And there's a whole segment on life 367 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: that deals with this from the Underwater Creatures episode. And 368 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: it's kind of a gender bender, Yes, it is a 369 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: gender bender. Like it basically breaks down to in the 370 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: male In the world of male cuttlefish, you kind of 371 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: have two types of dudes. You have the big it's 372 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: kind of like you've ever seen those like the cartoons 373 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: of the old, like nineteen fifties type of things where 374 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: you have the wormy guy on the beach and he 375 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: goes out there with his girlfriend and then the big 376 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: muscle dude kicks sand on him. Well, that's that's the 377 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: same thing that's going on here. We have the big, 378 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: beefy cuttlefish that are out on the beach to pick 379 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: up a chick. And then there's the wormy dude that 380 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: you know, might have brought his his book, you know, 381 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: with him to read his his you know, sci fi 382 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: collection or something um. And so, so those are the 383 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: two guys out there vying for the for the females. 384 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: So when it comes down to muscle, there's gonna be 385 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: one winner, of course, right right, and that's going to 386 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: be the broad beefy guy. But that's not to say 387 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: that the female cuttlefish won't let the the more petite 388 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: male approach. And the petite male has to be really 389 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: careful about this because nobody wants to get beat up 390 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: cuttlefish style or in real life. Yeah they can really, 391 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: I've seen some images of them tearing it up down there, 392 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: and they can get pretty vicious in their their their fights. 393 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: So the smaller size cuttlefish will change its colors to 394 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 1: reflect the coloration of a female, yeah, you know, kind 395 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: of like make himself small and submissive posturing type, you know, 396 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: and it will get real close to the female, the 397 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: mate that it has identified, and that's how it wins 398 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: the battle. And that's really how the broad beefy guys 399 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: and the you know, smaller, petite, perhaps more intelligent gender 400 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: bender cuttlefish coexis. Yeah, and because it's like both both 401 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: variants of the cuttle fish are important for the survival 402 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: of the species. So yeah, you have the big the 403 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 1: big b female cuttlefish will be hanging out there with 404 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: the the the female it hopes to mate with, and 405 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: then it sees this other female. It thinks it's a 406 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: female coming over, and it's like, oh, that's great, maybe 407 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: i'll mate with that one next, not knowing that that 408 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: is a male coming over to totally steal his lady. Yeah, 409 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: the female is a smart one here, she's perpetuating the 410 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: broader genetic pool. Yeah, it's it's uh, it's it's also 411 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: important taken to account the way they mate. The male 412 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: uses the modified arm to transfer his genetic material into 413 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: the female's bogle area sounds yeah, and the part of 414 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: her mouth that stores the males uh spermatophors for use later. 415 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: Like she actually then takes the this kind of like 416 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: packaged prepackaged sperm and then puts it on the eggs later. 417 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: So you know, if she has like a little from 418 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: column A and a little from column B, then that's 419 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: great because she wand up having this mixed offspring that 420 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: will can be both you know, the smaller sleeker um 421 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: you know, stealthier dudes and the big tough ones. So yeah, 422 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: why limen your options, ladies. Yeah, and and then she'll 423 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: of course want to keep that protected, so she'll store 424 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: her eggs and you know, in rocks or in a 425 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: nice handy discarded shell or something like that. Yeah, and 426 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: and that's again like I've got we actually got to 427 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: see those, uh, those those eggs when we went tom 428 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: on Hoey. It was really really cool. Yeah. I also 429 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: advise going over to the Life site and we're in 430 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: discovery if you're at all interested in the cuttlefish, are 431 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: learning a little bit more about these guys in action, 432 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: because it really is amazing footage. And hats off to 433 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: the men and women who captured this on film because 434 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: again I cannot imagine how complicated it must have been 435 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: to sort out all the different characters and the cuttlefish drama. 436 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and the results are just completely splendid. Like 437 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: just definitely definitely check check it out if even if 438 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: you only check out like some some video on the site, 439 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: you know. Um. And and also on the site, we 440 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: have a whole bunch of articles that that that we 441 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: wrote and put together. Uh. Like for instance, I interviewed 442 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: Life producer Neil Lucas about this very scene, and he 443 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: was the one who told me the whole story about 444 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: the editing woes and uh, and he had a lot 445 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: of just you know, funny things to say about you know, 446 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: his experience with the Cuddle. That was a fun project. 447 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: Gual talked to a lot of cool BBC producers. Yeah, 448 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun. Got got to making 449 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: a lot of phone calls to the UK. Do you 450 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: want to move into a listener man, Yes, um, I 451 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: actually have a really cool one here and it's a 452 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: response to our to a recent episode we did about 453 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: Sniper's Military Snipers. So this comes from Gabriel in Chicago, Illinois. 454 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: He says, Hi, all, I just finished hearing the episode 455 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: on Snipers, and you should know that the sniper duel 456 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: versus Sniper Wolf referenced in the show actually happened in 457 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 1: Metal Gear Solid one. We're talking about video games here, 458 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: not to I must have said it was too And 459 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: speaking of which, that duel was recreated in Metal Gear 460 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: Solid four, where you were locked in Mortal Kombat with 461 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: crying Wolf while evading our soldiers in Blizzard conditions. The 462 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: other difference is that she can smell you. Coming. Definitely 463 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: give that game a try. It's excellent if you like 464 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: sniper duels and metal Gear. Uh, the one in in 465 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: Metal Gear solid three is in my opinion, the best 466 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: one um and he says actually nerd lecture aside. I 467 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: love this podcast, which is definitely one of my faiths. 468 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: I did have a question though, how do they calculate 469 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: how many calories food has? And how do they determine 470 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: how much activity it takes to burn one off? I 471 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: love the Gabriel is kind of a man of wide 472 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: ranging interests. Well, I feel like a lot of our 473 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: interest I mean a lot of our our listeners have 474 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: to be because you know, we're talking about snipers one day, 475 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: and then it's cuttlefish and then it's composting, so you know, yeah, 476 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: he's kind of a renaissance men. It's so anyway, Gabriel, 477 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: thank you for straightening me out on my metal gear. 478 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: Because play that game, Robert part back. I've got too 479 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: many games I have to play. 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