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Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sororiti Life with

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Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice, Davey Kent and Jennifer Fessler.

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Speaker 2: This is Dirty Rush, and this is a special.

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Speaker 3: Episode that's producers only, so we're really taking you behind

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Speaker 3: the scenes, behind the scenes, behind the scenes where the

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Speaker 3: producers are coming on because people are about to go

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Speaker 3: through rush again. It seems like we just started the

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Speaker 3: whole rush process and now it's time.

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Speaker 2: For winter rush. Is that what you guys would call it? Winter?

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Speaker 3: Winter rush? Second semester rush, Spring rush is.

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Speaker 2: Coming, spring rush, spring rush.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had spring rush, but I think some people,

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Speaker 3: some schools do do it at the beginning of the

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Speaker 3: next quarter.

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Speaker 2: People are still getting cobs.

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Speaker 1: So what we wanted to.

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Speaker 2: Do is get all the producers on to talk about

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Speaker 2: the things.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, the producers of the show, we're all in the

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Speaker 3: Greek system, so we want to talk about things we

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Speaker 3: wish we.

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Speaker 2: Knew before Rush started. And we have one of our.

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Speaker 3: Other iHeart producers who actually was not in the Greek

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Speaker 3: system to ask the questions that she would want to

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Speaker 3: know before going through rush. So why don't we start

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Speaker 3: just one or two tidbits from everybody about something you

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Speaker 3: wish you knew before you went through Rush. So I

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Speaker 3: don't want to reveal any of our producers' names because

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Speaker 3: the thing about this show that's different from others is

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Speaker 3: that we do feel comfortable to really reveal things and

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Speaker 3: to be super honest because we don't always say who

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Speaker 3: we are. So why don't we just go around the

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Speaker 3: group and say a couple things that you wish you

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Speaker 3: knew before Rush started. I've been thinking about this a lot,

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Speaker 3: and for me, I actually think less is more. You

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Speaker 3: don't want to know too much, or I think you

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Speaker 3: would really get in your head about it. I think

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Speaker 3: the main thing that I would say is best advice

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Speaker 3: that are in the Greek system, which is super hard

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Speaker 3: for people that are going to schools far away, random

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Speaker 3: schools or schools where they don't know anybody. But I

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Speaker 3: think your biggest advantage is having people that you know

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Speaker 3: that are in the sororities already. Two is my other advice,

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Speaker 3: and I know this sounds, I don't know, very trite

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Speaker 3: or very obvious. Be nice, Be nice, be nice to everybody.

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Speaker 3: Be nice, and even once you get into the sorority.

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Speaker 3: Be nice to everybody else. Talking to a friend last

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Speaker 3: night who many many years later, and we'll do this

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Speaker 3: on a different episode.

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Speaker 4: It's just be nice.

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Speaker 2: Be nice, even to the.

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Speaker 3: Mean girl, be nice to the scary senior, whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: Just be nice. So that's my best advice. And now

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Speaker 2: over to you guys.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I rush a really long time ago, but

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Speaker 5: I would say not as.

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Speaker 2: Long as you wait. How many years ago? Twenty?

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Speaker 3: I'm thirty, I'm thirty years ago? Are you twenty?

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Speaker 6: I'm not quite twenty? Oh my gosh, how long ago

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Speaker 5: I can't even remember twenty two thousand and nine, whenever

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Speaker 7: We're coming up on twenty.

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Speaker 6: I guess No.

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Speaker 5: Some things I wish I would have known and done

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Speaker 5: before RUSH is one kind of research that houses and.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of their history and.

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Speaker 6: Also just kind of what to expect during Rush.

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Speaker 5: I went in very blind and was very overwhelmed by

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Speaker 5: so much of the chanting and singing and that sort

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Speaker 3: Oh like it kind of like it kind of creeped

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Speaker 7: A little bit.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I very much so.

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Speaker 5: Was encouraged to rush for my sister, who was in

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Speaker 5: a sorority. However, I didn't know a lot of things

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Speaker 5: about sororities. It was kind of like, Okay, this is

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Speaker 5: a fun way to meet some friends, So if that's you,

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Speaker 5: I would just suggest maybe doing a little little research

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Speaker 5: into what to expect during rush and a little bit

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Speaker 5: about the houses.

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Speaker 6: The other thing I wish.

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Speaker 5: I did differently during Rush was I did not base

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Speaker 5: on after I joined my house.

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Speaker 6: I'm very happy with the house I joined.

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Speaker 5: However, so many of my friends ended up being in

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Speaker 5: the first house I dropped, and it was because I

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Speaker 6: She was just very not me.

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Speaker 5: She was like a very high pitched voice, very energetic,

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Speaker 5: and a lot of the girls are right, this is

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Speaker 5: just completely turned me off, and I dropped the house

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Speaker 5: first day, and then later on in the to the semester,

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Speaker 5: most of my friends ended up being from that.

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Speaker 6: House, which is oh wow. So I would just say,

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Speaker 6: don't judge off the first person.

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Speaker 3: I thought of a good analogy when you were talking

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Speaker 3: about how overwhelming it is the best example I can

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Speaker 3: give is you're in a restaurant and it's when everyone

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Speaker 3: comes out with the cake and sings happy birthday to you.

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Speaker 3: That is sort of the feeling of a lot of

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Speaker 3: rush where you're like, oh my god, I have to

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Speaker 3: just smile here they're like singing at me, or they're

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Speaker 3: you know, so excited and you're like ugh. So you

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Speaker 3: kind of do have to prepare yourself for sort of

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Speaker 3: like a lot of a happy birthday song moment.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, can I jump in here, the resident non sorority person.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll call you. We'll call you, Professor H.

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Speaker 7: Professor H. I have a question about singing. So you

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Speaker 7: said that there's a lot of songs. You guys, once

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Speaker 7: you get in dy'll sit around and have music practice.

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Speaker 7: Do you get the song sent to? How do you

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Speaker 7: learn the songs once you join?

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Speaker 5: There is like a whole rush prep going into it

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Speaker 5: when you are in the house that you will learn

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Speaker 5: those songs. You will clap at the right time you

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Speaker 5: need to clap.

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Speaker 6: You will. It's a it's a process. It's like a

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you guys should do a whole episode.

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Speaker 3: We should do a whole episode just on the songs

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Speaker 3: because so Hannah and I were in the same sorority

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Speaker 3: at different schools, so we also have the same songs.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if that trips out, Professor h Well, I.

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Speaker 7: Kind of figured that every house probably has their own songs.

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Speaker 7: But I also want to know, like how secretive are

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Speaker 7: these songs? Are we talking? It's like those secret handshakes

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Speaker 7: you guys talk about, where like other people can't hear

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Speaker 7: you practicing the lyrics to these songs. I guess my

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Speaker 7: other thing is I went to cheer tryouts right in

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Speaker 7: high school. I'm assuming this is maybe a little bit

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Speaker 7: kind of similar where I had to go through a

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Speaker 7: process for ten days and I had to learn cheers

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Speaker 7: and I had to learn dance routines. But then I

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Speaker 7: had to audition with those Yeah, at a point where

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Speaker 7: you have to sing for somebody to show and prove

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Speaker 7: that you know these no, not really okay shaking their

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Speaker 1: To that question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Only I think if you want to be like

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Speaker 2: a if you want to be like.

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Speaker 3: A soloist like I was Barry Manilow on the Kappa

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Speaker 3: Cabana Day, and so I think I had to it.

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Speaker 7: Well, this isn't like American idol or something like an audition.

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Speaker 2: So I had to sing.

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Speaker 3: We had a copa cabana version, but it was called

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Speaker 3: Kappa Kappa Gamma, and so I had to sing. So

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Speaker 3: I think somebody must have wanted to make sure I

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Speaker 3: could sing. This sounds like a nightmare. Sorry, really embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: I'm not like Ariana Grande or anything. I think you

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Speaker 3: can you can get by with just like a mediocre voice,

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Speaker 3: even to do a solo. But like anyway, I want

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Speaker 3: to go to everybody else for the things that they

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Speaker 3: wish they knew. But the singing is a whole episode.

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Speaker 3: Please make note we should do a whole episode because

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Speaker 3: there's songs you have to sing on meeting night to

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Speaker 3: like get in the door. But anyway, we'll talk about

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Speaker 3: that later.

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Speaker 8: So I would say one thing that I wouldn't necess

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Speaker 8: sssarily recommend doing is you know, you go into college.

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Speaker 8: I had a lot of my high school friends that

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Speaker 8: went to the same college as me, and we rushed

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Speaker 8: all at the same time, and I feel like we

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Speaker 8: kind of influenced each other, like ooh, I really like

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Speaker 8: that house, and I like that house, but I don't

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Speaker 8: like this one as much. And I feel like you

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Speaker 8: really need to be like individual in the sense where

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Speaker 8: it's like, Okay, my friend might not like that house,

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Speaker 8: but we don't have to be in the same house.

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Speaker 8: Like we can still be friends and be in separate sororities.

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Speaker 8: So it's easy to kind of get caught up and like, ooh,

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Speaker 8: this is what my friend likes, and so on and

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Speaker 3: I have a weird question on that, like to pretend

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Speaker 3: it was like percentages or like you know, a pie,

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Speaker 3: how many of your friends were in your sorority versus

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Speaker 3: other sororities. I think I'm like seventy five percent in mine,

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Speaker 3: twenty five percent others, But you guys weigh in.

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Speaker 1: I would say the same.

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Speaker 8: I would honestly even say my school was a little

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Speaker 8: bit smaller, so we had like I want to say,

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Speaker 8: maybe like four five sororities to choose from, So I'd say, yeah,

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Speaker 8: mine was like eighty twenty and it ended up working out,

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Speaker 8: like totally don't regret it at all, But I wonder

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Speaker 8: if my friends and I stayed a little separate, if

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Speaker 8: we maybe would have chosen like different houses from each other.

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Speaker 3: Wow, oh interesting, Yeah, so you kind of ended up

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Speaker 3: going to the same house because you did influence each other.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally.

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Speaker 8: And I feel like too, like I rushed probably like

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Speaker 8: I think nine years ago, eight or nine years ago,

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Speaker 8: so I like I remember we would like stalk their

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Speaker 8: instagrams and be like, ooh, like this house looks so

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Speaker 8: research beforehand that I think also, like going into it,

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Speaker 8: we kind of knew which houses we thought were cool.

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Speaker 4: And that's why.

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Speaker 1: I think kind of along the same lines of cutting

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Speaker 1: social media, it is such an individual experience, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's really important to just make sure that a

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Speaker 1: you're listening to your intuition versus other people's opinions, or

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Speaker 1: not considered as quote unquote cool, and kind of tuning

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Speaker 1: is cool, but really it's all about you and ending

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Speaker 1: up in the place that's the most aligned. And I

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Speaker 1: also think that just like going in as your most

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Speaker 1: going to be the most important thing to do, and

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Speaker 1: it's easy to lose sight of that when there's so

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Speaker 1: So I think that really just tuning into yourself is

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Speaker 2: Tame pledge a house? Tell me my good, that's right.

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Speaker 3: If you pledge a house and you sign the card

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's correct. So if I were to have taken

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Speaker 2: Is that true?

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Speaker 3: You can't take a bid from the same house twice.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can correct me if I'm wrong

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Speaker 7: I think that was allowed.

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Speaker 3: I think if you go through rush, you get a

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Speaker 2: But now I'm I'm questioning myself. But yeah, I think if.

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Speaker 3: You go to preference, you fill it out, you're agreeing

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Speaker 7: I think, now, are there exceptions if like a family

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Speaker 3: I think if you were a pledge, say DG gives

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Speaker 2: You couldn't just go RUSH again. You would just be

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Speaker 2: a DG. DG would work it out with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right, because you've already accepted the

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Speaker 1: you just work it out with them to where you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you just say, yeah, I don't really know anybody

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Speaker 2: That feels kind of random. I don't know if people

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Speaker 1: I know a few people who did that because they

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Speaker 1: initiation was coming up, they were like, I don't think

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Speaker 3: So kind of I'm just gonna say, and maybe this is.

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Speaker 2: Something that you would want to know before.

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Speaker 3: I think that's also whoey, Like every house, for the

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Speaker 3: to get along with. You're not going to be best

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Speaker 7: This brings me to my next question. When you're talking

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Speaker 7: assume that you're sitting around and you know, talking about

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Speaker 7: like I don't know, family backgrounds or religion or something, right,

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Speaker 7: talking about girls' personalities and like how much they party

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Speaker 2: Oh you got it, you got it. I think the

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Speaker 5: I will say, going to a university where there is

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Speaker 5: religious area. I did not This was not talked about

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Speaker 5: during Rush. However, things after Rush became very apparent in

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Speaker 7: Well, maybe something that those girls wish they'd asked prior

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Speaker 7: about religion r I well, should be asking about religion

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Speaker 6: Depends on the school for sure.

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Speaker 5: But being at one of those schools, my sister, who

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Speaker 5: had been through the same sorority system and at that

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Speaker 5: she wanted me to make up my own choices, and

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Speaker 5: me coming from not a Mormon background and kind of

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Speaker 6: It was one of my top houses. It was my

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, and they really don't want you.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think they frown upon talking about politics

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Speaker 3: a confusing situation because you're not supposed to talk about

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Speaker 3: those things. But then what if that's like a major

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Speaker 5: Well right exactly, Like if I would have actually gotten it,

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Speaker 5: I probably would have had to drop and it wouldn't

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Speaker 5: have aligned necessarily with what I was looking for my

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Speaker 3: I guess you're not supposed to like also say, like, so,

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Speaker 3: what fraternities do you guys hang out with?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: But you want to.

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Speaker 7: So, how are you sussing this out just based on

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Speaker 7: like small talk?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but I knew That's the thing that's so

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Speaker 3: different for some people's experiences versus others because I knew

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Speaker 2: Hung out with. I knew the girls in the house,

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Speaker 2: so I knew a lot. That's why it's harder for

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Speaker 2: me to be like, what did I need to know?

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Speaker 2: Like I already knew it.

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Speaker 5: That's why my advice is to, like, before you go

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Speaker 5: even now that's on social media and TikTok and Instagram

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Speaker 5: that I feel like you can find those answers easier.

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Speaker 2: Now totally, Like I.

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Speaker 5: Was a view beginning of social media, and so that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we didn't even have cell phones, Like, we

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Speaker 3: didn't even have cell phones, so there was no email

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Speaker 3: when I went through Rush, So everything was sort of

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Speaker 3: And I think about this all the time, because we

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Speaker 2: If one person knows, twenty people know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Also, for me, it was a lot about the types

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Speaker 1: I went in and I just felt like everybody was

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Speaker 3: Well, that's kind of an interesting thing because my niece

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Speaker 3: I've heard from my niece, so I'd have to ask her.

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Speaker 2: Of the coolest girls in the whole house.

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Speaker 3: She can't be in the front at rush because she

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Speaker 3: determines like if you're going to be good at we

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Speaker 2: I think you guys call it, like, what do you

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Speaker 1: We called it the same thing.

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Speaker 3: The person trying to recruit or whatever, we just call

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Speaker 1: Oh, the person is a P and M of potential.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, now that's so true though with the personality thing,

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Speaker 1: Like hi, and so I feel like they put.

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Speaker 8: Me with people they were like, ooh, we like we

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Speaker 3: So the hardest part is if you have just two

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's so true because if yeah, I've heard kind

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Speaker 8: it's kind of like so like tell me about your family,

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Speaker 7: So one thing I'm fascinated by, obviously that is taking

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Speaker 7: If you like have rhythm when you get in?

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Speaker 1: Do you have to go to dance practice?

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Speaker 7: Like how many days a week? Like how many girls

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00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 7: have to be apport of this? What if you start

445
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 7: doing the stunts and somebody falls and gets injured? I

446
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 7: don't know, it just seems like a lot, Like so

447
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 7: tell me about the dance aspect and if you're asking

448
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 7: questions about the dancing.

449
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: During rush, I think for us it was more so

450
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: some people are just like that and they want to

451
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: do it. Some people, there's always a social media manager

452
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: or whatever who's in charge of putting.

453
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 7: The I'm sorry, there's a social media manager for that.

454
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: Like a position within the house.

455
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 7: A position within the house isn't like a hired person

456
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 7: that does this profession.

457
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: It's one of the girls in the house, and they'll

458
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 1: get elected to be in charge of the Instagram and

459
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: the TikTok or whatever. So there are always the people

460
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: who are kind of curating however that's going to look

461
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: and executing their vision throughout rush. So a lot of

462
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: times they'll pull random people for pictures and stuff. But

463
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: for videos like that, I feel like there was always

464
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: girls who did cheer in high school or girls who

465
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 1: were on the dance team at college that would just

466
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: kind of all into or automatically and were into that

467
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: sort of thing. So they wanted to be at the front.

468
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: They wanted to be getting a group together and practicing

469
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 1: the dances, and so at least in our case, there

470
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: were always people who wanted to do it, So it

471
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: wasn't like we were pulling teeth and having dance practice.

472
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: It just kind of happened more naturally same we didn't.

473
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 8: TikTok wasn't a thing yet, So it was all Instagram

474
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 8: when I was doing it, and it was definitely like

475
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 8: the cheerleaders or you know, girls like that or girls

476
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 8: that wanted to dance that would be doing their thing.

477
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 8: Definitely not like a requirement though, And yeah, no practices

478
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 8: for us either.

479
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 3: So in the nineties we didn't do this big dancing things.

480
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: We had something called porch songs. So what would happen is,

481
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: forget if it was every.

482
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: Day or part of rush.

483
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: The rushies would come up and the girls would come

484
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 3: out sort of onto the porch and sing the song.

485
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: So there might be like rhythmic clapping or sort of

486
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 3: like slight dance moves, but nothing like you see now,

487
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 3: more like.

488
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: Hands up, hands down, hands up, hands down, Kappa Kapa

489
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 2: like that.

490
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: But then they the university, I think thought decided that

491
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 3: that was a bit disruptive. All the singing all the time,

492
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: and you would have sort of sing offs kind of

493
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 3: pitch perfect style.

494
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 7: I was just gonna say, like pitch perfect.

495
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, like across the streets. So you'd be like, Kapa,

496
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 3: we are Kappa, and they'd be like we are pi

497
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: Fi pie Fi pi Fy, and then you kind of

498
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 3: like have them at each other, and then I think

499
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 3: that they took it away because it was like disruptive

500
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: to the neighborhood sort of a vibe. So then you

501
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: couldn't sing until everybody was in the house and the

502
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 3: door completely closed.

503
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 2: Then you were allowed to sing. But we didn't have

504
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: these like dance routines.

505
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: The only thing we did have is this elaborate skit day.

506
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 3: So there was this skit Day and like the entire

507
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 3: house was transformed into like a Broadway show basically with

508
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: you know, the walls and the this and the that

509
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 3: and all these things.

510
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 2: And that was the Barry Manilow Day. So that was

511
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 2: when we.

512
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 3: Had like a full production, a full skit, and like

513
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 3: people sat kind of like an audience, they would be

514
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: watching this sort of show.

515
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: I thought it was amazing when I went through.

516
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: RASH, I was like, this is the most awesome thing

517
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 3: I've ever seen, because I just felt like I went

518
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 3: to like show after show after show.

519
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 7: I think my mind is so blown. I didn't realize

520
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 7: how much theatrics went in being in a sorority. I'm

521
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 7: wondering why you guys don't target theater meters.

522
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: I feel like they don't want to be in a sorority, but.

523
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 7: Maybe they don't know that there is so much singing

524
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 7: and acting and dancing they're missing out on this.

525
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 5: Possibly, I do feel like theater kids like tend to

526
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 5: end up having like their own you know, like group

527
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 5: I guess sorority fraternity together as like there.

528
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's true. I do think.

529
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 5: I don't know why I can't fully remember the skit dape,

530
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 5: but mine was very similar to to hers that it

531
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 5: we we didn't have the group dances, but also like

532
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 5: and honestly, the social media manager, that's a new role

533
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 5: that did nicest either for us.

534
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, we we obviously didn't have that either, like, but

535
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 3: it was pretty elaborate, Like we turned the phone booth,

536
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: yes we had a phone with into what looked like

537
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 3: an aquarium, and then there was a girl who was

538
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: like a full mermaid in the phone booth, making it

539
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: look like she was swimming. And then there was like

540
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: all this singing and dancing, and then we did have

541
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: do you know that song word up by Cameo?

542
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: Do you guys remember that word up? Mm hmmm, oh,

543
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: ladies around the world. But we did do this thing.

544
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm totally telling a secret now where every pledge

545
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: class made up an eight count, and then each year

546
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 3: the dance would get longer and longer because the eight

547
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 3: count would just go on and on and on and on.

548
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: I have no memory of too much of the dance.

549
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: I just know that it was word up by cameo.

550
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: But that was kind of cool. So there definitely was

551
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 3: like dancing.

552
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 5: There's dancing, and then those girls that like myself, who

553
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 5: are not great dancers, we just got put from the back.

554
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 5: It's like you've got alumni there that's like choreographing things,

555
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 5: and they're like you like kinda take the back, you know.

556
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 5: So the ones who are meant to shine are in

557
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 5: the front with the good voices and the good dance moves.

558
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 7: She was talking about some like riff off sing off

559
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 7: thing that was happening back in her day. Are they

560
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 7: doing dance offs now? With these elaborate dancing.

561
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: Things that they're doing. I kind of feel like social

562
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: media though in a way, during Rush is like one

563
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: big dance off. It's very competitive.

564
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 7: That's what it looks like as an outsider for sure.

565
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: For some reason that has just become what signifies the

566
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: coolest house is if you can make a cool TikTok.

567
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it feels like one big dance off.

568
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: It feels very competitive to have the best choreographed thing.

569
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: But it's weird because that's not in person, it's just online.

570
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 7: Okay, So that answers my question. Then when sororities pass

571
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 7: each other in the streets, they're not having a dance off. Okay, yeah,

572
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 7: good to know.

573
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 2: Do they can do those dances?

574
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: Do the sororities do those dances at all during rush

575
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: or is it just like on Instagram and TikTok It's

576
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: not like actually even a part of rush, not really.

577
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: I think it's TikTok. And then when you're doing the

578
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: songs out the door and coppying and bouncing and whatever,

579
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: but it's not a real dance. I don't think they're

580
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: performing dancing. So they don't ever.

581
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: Do that whole like dance shenanigans during rush.

582
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 7: And they don't reform these dances for frat houses. No, no, no,

583
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 7: I don't know.

584
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm asking there was only there was a little singing.

585
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: That could happen like during a pinning or something, but

586
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: like otherwise, you don't really do any of that for

587
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: the fraternities.

588
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: We had one thing at our school. It was a

589
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: big fraternity event and it's like a big dance off

590
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: and every solreaty has a portion of their girls choreograph

591
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: this dance for weeks and then they go into the

592
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: main courtyard area on campus and everybody performs in it's

593
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: a competition for like a frat event, it's a fundraising thing,

594
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 1: but other than that, there's no performances to the frat boys.

595
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 7: I think anybody who wants to rush needs to get

596
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 7: a pair of tap shoes or something before they go

597
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 7: out and start stomping. They need to learn how to

598
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 7: do a little bit of rhythm. It sounds like it

599
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 7: list an item.

600
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 6: Zero rhythm and I survived it. They'll be okay, They'll

601
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 6: be okay. It's just fun.

602
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: It is just fun.

603
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: Wait, so, Professor h before we go, what other questions

604
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: would you have about things you would want to know

605
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: before rush?

606
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: Oh?

607
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 7: Gosh, I think before rush, I would want to know

608
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 7: do I get fed when I'm going to these houses?

609
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 7: Or do I need to eat before I go?

610
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: Definitely need to like slam some sandwiches before because I

611
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: feel like you almost can go all day without food.

612
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: I think one of them you get like a lemonade

613
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: and maybe a cookie.

614
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying to remember if I like remember like

615
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 5: a little break of like food that they would feed

616
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 5: all the pan ms in between. But yes, definitely hydrate

617
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 5: and eat something before because it is a long day

618
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 5: and it's a lot of talking that it can you know,

619
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 5: and where it's silly for me to say this, but

620
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 5: honestly wear comfortable shoes. I just remember standing all day

621
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 5: and just being like trying to find a couch or something.

622
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 6: I was like, please lead me to the couch, you

623
00:30:59,360 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 6: know what.

624
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: I so funny is like I don't even know that

625
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: I could do it at my age.

626
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: Now I feel like.

627
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: Whoa, that was so tiring At fifty, I'm like, I

628
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: don't know if I could do it like I could

629
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 3: when I was eighteen.

630
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: It is really tiring for us. In between rounds, you

631
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: were required to be in the cafeteria. So we had

632
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: this giant cafeteria where all the girls were required to

633
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: be in if you weren't at a house doing.

634
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 4: Wow group round.

635
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: So it was kind of cool because you get food

636
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: and water and like are reminded to hydrate and ac

637
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: because where I went to school was very hot, outside

638
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: when we rushed, which made it all more exhausting. But

639
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of cool because you're a little bit forced

640
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: to be in this environment where you're making friends throughout

641
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: rush and not just focused on making friends at the houses.

642
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: You're sitting with the girls in between rounds and getting

643
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: to know people. So I thought it was a good opportunity.

644
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, we were required to take our breaks in

645
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: the cafeteria and then at the end of the day

646
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: everybody altogether could go home, but it was no way.

647
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also thought it was super fun. Like I

648
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm like alone in that, but I

649
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: thought the whole thing was just so fun. I was like,

650
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: this is the greatest.

651
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 8: It was so fun and like being able to like

652
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 8: dress in the outfits you wanted. You're like, okay, I

653
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 8: can wear this, you know, on day one and like

654
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 8: stuff like that and be with your friends too.

655
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 6: It's it's so much fun.

656
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was so fun, and like we

657
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: talk about this all the time, but my sorority sisters

658
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: and I talk about all the time, were like, can

659
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: we go live there again?

660
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: Like together? Now?

661
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 7: I know how I would if I was in charge

662
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 7: of like sussing people out to be in our house.

663
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 7: Like the kinds of questions I would ask, I wouldn't

664
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 7: ask just the get to know. Yeah, I'd probably throw

665
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 7: in a couple of zingers to do a little test

666
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 7: test test, you know, like, hey, we go out and

667
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 7: party all night, do you have a fake ID on

668
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 7: you like that kind of stuff?

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Speaker 2: You know, Oh, that would be very very frowned upon. Okay,

670
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: So I wanted to know.

671
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Speaker 7: Is there somebody assigned to throw out some of those

672
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 7: kind of baited questions in the process to kind of

673
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 7: sess out the girls that maybe aren't the right fit

674
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 7: for the house.

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Speaker 1: It's hard because I think there's a lot of taboos

676
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: and you're not supposed to talk about the three bees,

677
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: which is booze, boys, and Bible.

678
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 3: So religionally, we never quite heard it like that. We

679
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: never like heard it like that, but I think it.

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00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: Was just sort of understood.

681
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

682
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know.

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00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: I feel like eventually we did start talking about like boys.

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00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 7: I guess I'm just wondering, like, so, you're you're literally

685
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 7: just going off of a vibe then on if you

686
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 7: like a girl versus like getting into that nitty gritty

687
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 7: to see if she like, you know, is a party animal,

688
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 7: or if she cheats on her boyfriend with their you know,

689
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 7: steals guys from her best friends. You know, you don't

690
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 7: ask any of those kinds of questions to really like

691
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 7: saw somebody out during this process.

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00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 5: There it is a bit of research done by the

693
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 5: houses before Rush even starts about that with people. I'm

694
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 5: sure it's much more intense now.

695
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 6: With social media. Before social media, it was kind of

696
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 6: word of mouth.

697
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of I would say a lot

698
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 5: of kids go to in state schools.

699
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 6: Not everybody, but so there would be people be like, oh,

700
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 6: she went.

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00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 5: To my high school or is friends with so and

702
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 5: so that I know, and this is something that they

703
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 5: told me about this person, and would kind of clock

704
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 5: that early and like they're so early.

705
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 6: Almost even before rush starts.

706
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 5: So it was almost like keep an eye out, like

707
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 5: she's a little bit of a red flag already, and

708
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 5: then like see how the conversations go with them without

709
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 5: having to I'm with the other girl who talked about

710
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 5: the three bees.

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00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 6: Ours was the same.

712
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 4: You couldn't.

713
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 6: You weren't supposed to talk about those things.

714
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 5: So there is a little bit of that done beforehand.

715
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 5: And then does she give up those vibes, does she.

716
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 7: Well to piggyback off of that. So maybe somebody that's

717
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 7: not notorious for a bad thing in their past, but

718
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 7: maybe notorious for whether they come from a prominent family

719
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 7: or they used to date a professional athlete or something

720
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 7: like that. Do those kinds of things get researched and

721
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 7: get you pushed to the front of the line. Essentially

722
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 7: for some schools, if you have a really big let's say.

723
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 3: Well, I definitely think dating a professional athlete when you're

724
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 3: eighteen would be a little.

725
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 7: Bit I'm just saying, what about these TikTokers that are

726
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 7: coming into school with, you know, their freshman year with

727
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 7: over a million followers and that kind of notoriety. Is

728
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 7: that going to push you to the front of people's

729
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 7: lists of you know, houses wanting you.

730
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 8: Now, Yeah, I think depending on the house too, like

731
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 8: what they prioritize, Like there were houses that were very studious,

732
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 8: like that was kind of what they were known for,

733
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 8: and then like more like popular houses.

734
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 7: So those areas where it's like, oh.

735
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 8: We want this girl that has a million followers, where

736
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 8: the other ones are like, maybe don't care as much.

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00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 3: I always wonder about the celebrities kids because you always

738
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 3: hear about celebrities kids going through rush, and I never

739
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: know if that's like good bad if people know.

740
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 2: I don't know. I always think about that.

741
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 5: Another piece of advice to kind of help with this

742
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 5: situation that I thought of is, before you go, if

743
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 5: you know somebody, an aunt, your mom's best friend, an

744
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 5: upper classman, somebody who was in these houses before, get

745
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 5: a wreck letter from somebody who is in the house.

746
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 6: It really helps your chances.

747
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 5: It puts you probably above some other girls because that

748
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 5: does happen where they.

749
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: Will look out for you.

750
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 6: You will be one of their top girls, and they will.

751
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 5: Assign specific girls to be the ones to talk to you,

752
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 5: to try and influence you to choose that house.

753
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 3: Essentially, yeah, especially if you know someone in that house,

754
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: like that's still there, still.

755
00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 5: There, but yeah, even alumni polls can go pretty.

756
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 7: Far, I'll think.

757
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: So.

758
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: I hope this was enlightening.

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00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 7: I learned a lot today you guys as a non

760
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 7: sorority sister. Thanks for letting me in today.

761
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: More to come.

762
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 3: I can't wait for the singing episode.

763
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 7: Are warming up those vocal.

764
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: Cords, get your damp shoes.

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00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: Talk to you guys, later Bye bye,