1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Live from the Bloomberg Interacted Burger Studios. This is Bloombergy 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Daybreak for Friday, January. Coming up this hour, Intel shares 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: plunge after one of the gloomiest forecasts in its history. 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Hasbro is the latest company to slash jobs. Republicans may 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: be willing to raise the dead select temporarily, and Japan 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: and the Netherlands moved closer to joining the US on 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: China ship restrictions. A guilty verdict for the man who 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: killed eight people along the New York Punk Path, plus 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: cities brace for the video release of Memphis officers in 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: a deadly beating. I'm Michael bar More Ahead, I'm John 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: Stash Aaron sports thrilling overtime win for the Knicks in Boston, 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: the Nets lost to Detroit, the Devil's lost in Nashville. 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: That's all s traded ahead on Bloomberg day Break on 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg eleven three on New York, Bloomberg one, Washington d C, 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg one oh six one, Boston, Bloomberg nine sixties and 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: Francisco Sirius x M one nine team and around the 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: world on Bloomberg Radio dot Com and via the Bloomberg 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: Business Good morning. I'm Nathan Hagar and I'm Karin Moscow. 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: Here are the stories we're following today. Let's begin with 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: an earnings disappointment from Intel. The shares are down more 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: than nine percent after the downbeat results. Let's get the 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: latest live from Bloomberg's Steve Rappaport. Good morning, Steve, Good morning, Nathan, 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: and Karen. Intel's out with a forecast that's one of 24 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,919 Speaker 1: the worst in the chip maker's history, predicting a gross 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: margin of thirty seven for this quarter. Despite that outlook, 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: CEO Pat Gelsinger says the company remains focused on the 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: big picture. I want to remind everyone that we are 28 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: on a multi year journey. We remain focused on the 29 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: things that are within our control as we navigate short 30 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: term headwinds while let's secut into our long term strategy. 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: Gelsinger adding he thinks momentum will stabilize this year. Live 32 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: from New York, I'm Steve Rappaport, Bloomberg Daybreak. All right, Steve, 33 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: thank you all. Disappointing earnings are also taking a toll 34 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: on Hasbro this morning. Shares at the Toy are down 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: more than five percent, and Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett reports Hasbro 36 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: is cutting fiferent of its workforce. That's eleven thousand jobs, 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: and it comes after a disappointing holiday shopping season. The 38 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: company also projected it will fall short of fourth quarter 39 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: adjusted profit estimates. The company said while it's digital gaming business, 40 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: including Dungeons and Dragons and Magic the Gathering, perform well, 41 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: it's traditional toy business faltered. Changes to its business plan 42 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: are expected to result in charges of about three hundred 43 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: million dollars. As part of the changes, president Eric Niman 44 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: is leaving the company in New York. Charlie Pellett Bloomberg 45 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: day Break. All right, Charlie, thank you. Another corporate story 46 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: this morning centers on bed Bath and Beyond. The struggling 47 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: retailer is moving closer to bankruptcy. We get more from 48 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Doug Prisner. In a filing on Thursday, the retailer 49 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: said it received a default notice from JP Morgan Chase 50 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: after breaching the terms of its credit line, but Bedad 51 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: and Beyond warned it didn't have enough funds. The company 52 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: listed around two point one billion dollars of obligations it 53 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: owed as of November. One analyst said the likelihood of 54 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: a bankruptcy filing within the next thirty days is relatively high. Earlier, 55 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: Bloomberg reported the company has begun speaking with potential lenders 56 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: on funding the firm during bankruptcy proceedings in New York. 57 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: I'm Doug Prisner, Bloomberg daybreak. All right, thank you, While 58 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: turning to the markets. Now, US futures are lower as 59 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: we close out the trading week. At the same time, 60 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: the SNP five hundred is coming off its highest close 61 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: since early December. Patrick Calfrey is senior equity strategistic Credit Sweez. 62 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: I think the equity picture right here actually looks pretty good. 63 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen the market rally almost eleven since 64 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: the end of September, or up four and a half 65 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: percent year to date, and really that's in response to 66 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: the fact that we are having interest rates come in. 67 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: Credit spreads are narrowing in, the vix is falling. That 68 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: is a good backdrop for risk. Credit Sue Senior equity 69 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: strategist Patrick Paul Frey is also watching the Fed. He 70 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: sees two more rate hikes coming from the Central Bank 71 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: followed by a pause. Like he inflation report for the 72 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: FED comes out this morning. Karen. December's personal consumption expenditure 73 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: prices are forecast to be unchanged while the core rate 74 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: rises three tenths. We get more on the upcoming inflation 75 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: report from Bloomberg Economics correspondent Michael McKee The data should 76 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: continue a string of good news on inflation. Falling energy 77 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: prices and holiday discounts to clear merchandise will put downward 78 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: pressure on the Fed's favorite price index, and the year 79 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: over year change in both headline PC and core are 80 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: likely to come in softer than Fed officials had forecast. 81 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: The income and spending numbers may not be as cheerful, 82 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: with incomes barely rising and spending set to drop. Retail 83 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: sales were down in December. The report will tell us 84 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: whether that meant more was spent on services or whether 85 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: consumers simply pulled back. Michael mckeey, Bloomberg Daybreak. All right, Mike, 86 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: thank you all. Turning to Washington now, there may be 87 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: some movement in the fight over the debts sailing. Bloomberg 88 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: News has learned House Republicans are considering a short term 89 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: increase until September thirty that would allow more time to 90 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: negotiate with Democrats, though it's not clear whether they're open 91 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 1: to it. Republican Congressman Dusty Johnson of South Dakota says, 92 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: this issue will get resolved. What we're getting is a 93 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: credit card bill, and it is a whop, and I 94 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: get it. We have to pay the credit card bill. 95 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: We absolutely should not default on our death. But when 96 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: a company gets that credit card bill show up in 97 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: the mail, it is exactly the right time for them 98 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: to sit down and have a family conversation about how 99 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: do they get the spending under control. Congressman Dusty Johnson 100 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: spoke with Our Washington corresponded Joe Matthew on Bloomberg sound On. 101 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: Catch the show weekdays at five pm Eastern on Bloomberg 102 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: Radio or subscribe to the Bloomberg sound On podcast. Turning 103 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: to geopolitics, Karen, the US is limiting China's access to 104 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: advanced semiconductor equipment, and now Japan and the Netherlands are 105 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: poised to do the same. Bloomberg Daybreak Asia anchor Brian 106 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: Curtis has more from Hong Kong. Sources say the three 107 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: countries are on the verge of forging a powerful alliance. 108 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: It will undercut China's ambitions to build its own ship capabilities, 109 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg saidwin Chan says it would be a black eye 110 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: for China. It's with the significant victory for the Biden administration, 111 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: It's something that the US could not have done alone 112 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: contained China's chip ambitions. If key allies, such as an 113 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: evalence in Japan refused to participate, the talks could conclude 114 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: as soon as today. In Hong Kong, Bran Curtis Bloomberg, 115 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: Day bright, It's thirty six degrees in Central Park. It's 116 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: gonna be partly sunny and cool today with highs in 117 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: the low forties. Will get back down to the low 118 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: thirties tonight under Apartment Cloudy sky Time. How to look 119 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: at some of the other stories making news in New 120 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: York and around the world. Good morning, Michael Vare, Good 121 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: morning Nathan. New York City and Long with other major 122 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: cities across the nation, are bracing for tonight's video release 123 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: of a confrontation with Memphis police officers accused in the 124 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: beating death of a twenty nine year old black motorists 125 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,559 Speaker 1: earlier this month. The five Fiard officers have been charged 126 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: with murder and other crimes in the killing of Tyree Nichols. 127 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: All of the officers are black. Last night, a vigil 128 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: was held for Nichols. His mother, rove On Wells, told 129 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: the crowd to be peaceful when the video is released. 130 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: I don't want us burning up our cities, turning up 131 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: the streets, because that's not what my son stood for. 132 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: This officials say the video will show the entire faithful encounter, 133 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: from beginning to end. A New York lawyer has been 134 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: sentenced from the George Floyd protests. In a judge ordered 135 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: Collinford Maddis to spend a year and a day in 136 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: prison and pay just over thirty thou dollars to the 137 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: NYPD for the fire bombing of a police car. Maddis 138 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: and Rouge Raman were arrested as demonstrations and protests rage 139 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: over the killing of Floyd at the hands of police 140 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. Rahman was sentenced in November to fifteen months 141 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: in prison. And Islamic extremists who killed eight people a 142 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: speeding truck in the seen rampage on the West Side 143 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: Highway bike path has been convicted of federal charges and 144 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: could face the death penalty. Jurors in the Manhattan courtroom 145 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: found Cipolo Psipop guilty. The jury will return to court 146 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: no earlier than February six to decide whether Psipop should 147 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: be executed. New York Mayor Eric Adams vowed in his 148 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: State of the City addressed to increase the number of 149 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: police and hold drivers accountable. Adams also says he wants 150 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: to get repeat offenders off the streets. He reflected on 151 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: his first year in office, we hit the ground running 152 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: and we got stuff done. One year later, our cities 153 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: on the pathway to being safer. Our economy is recovering, 154 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: and our stores, subways in hotels a full. Mayor Adams 155 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: says the state of the city is strong. Global news 156 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day on air and on Bloomberg Quicktake, 157 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: powered by more than journal list and analyist more than 158 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: a hundred twenty countries. I'm Michael Barr and this is Bloomberg. 159 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: Thanks Michael, timing out for the Bloomberg Sports update, brought 160 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: to you by Tri State Auty. For that, we bring 161 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: in John Session. Thanks Nathan. The Knicks best win of 162 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: the season in Boston, Celtics at the NBA's best record 163 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: and they jumped in front by fifteen. Nicks blew a 164 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: fourth quarterly that's happened a lot, but they rallied in overtime, 165 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: big three point by r J. Barrett. Julius Randall's two 166 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: free throws put him a head Nicks one one one seventeen. 167 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: Randalls scored thirty seven. Jalen Brunson at twenty nine. Nicks 168 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: continue to be better on the road than at home. 169 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: It's their fifteenth road win. Only the Celtics have more. 170 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: The Nets began a stretch of home games, losing to 171 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: Detroit one thirty one twenty two. They clearly missed Kevin Durant. 172 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: Nets have lost six of their last eight. Devils lost 173 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: at Nashville six four, in the third time this season 174 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: they've allowed that many goals. Novak Djokovic playing his Australian 175 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: Open semifinal match right now, and he leads American Tommy 176 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: Paul seven five three love earlier a semifinal win in 177 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: four sets, force stefinal sits pass. Two NFL head coaches 178 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: fired during the season, he got new jobs. Frank Reich 179 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: lost his job in Indianapolis but hired by Carolina, and 180 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett fired in Denver, and he's now the offensive 181 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: coordinator of the Jets Conference Championship. Sunday begins in the 182 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: NFC in Philadelphia. Eagles forty nine is the a f 183 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: C game, a rematch from last year when Joe Burrow 184 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: led Cincinnati to a comeback overtime win at Kansas City. 185 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: Can Burrow and the Bengals do it again. We've been 186 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: in these spots, um, they have the experience. We know 187 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: a team we're playing team has been in this this 188 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: game the last five seasons and there they've all been 189 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: in that stadium. So to me, they're still a team 190 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: to beat, and then we're coming for him, but we 191 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be tough. Burrow in the last two 192 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: years has won three playoff road games. Longtime college basketball 193 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: analyst Billy Packer has died. He was eighty two. John 194 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: stash Award Bloomberg Sports Live from coast to coast from 195 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: New York to Send Francisco, Boston to Washington, d C. 196 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: Nationwide on Sirius Examp, the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg 197 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hagar. 198 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: At the end of a big week for big tech earnings. 199 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: The focus this morning is on Intel and the disappointment 200 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: from the chip maker. The shares are down nine percent 201 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: after one of the gloomiest quarterly forecasts in Intel's history. 202 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Quick Take correspondent Alex Webb is back with us 203 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: this morning for more on the earnings and the overall 204 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: chips story. Alex, good morning. How big a surprise was 205 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: it that Intel came out with this forecast? It was 206 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: something like at least two and a half billion dollars 207 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: lower than the average estament. It certainly was a bit 208 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: of a sideswipe. The market was not anticipating good news, 209 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: but the scope of the miss was quite considerable. The 210 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: consensus had been for first quarter sales of fourteen billion dollars. 211 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: Intel's projecting it's going to be between ten and a 212 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: half and eleven and a half. That would make it, 213 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: you know, the lowest in some twenty years. Also me 214 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: ten years or so, so it's um a bit a 215 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: sizeable blow. Hope, is then that some analyst commentary this 216 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: morning that they're frontloading a lot of the bad news 217 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: and just saying we're going to take a painful quarter 218 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: and with the hope that they rebound a bit in 219 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: the second half. Is this just an Intel story or 220 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: does this say something more about the overall outlook for 221 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: the tech sector. I mean, we've been talking for quite 222 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: some time about a lot of these magacap names are 223 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: in retrenchment mode after the pandemic and trying to cut cast. Uh, 224 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: there's clearly our broader issues in the tech sector. Of course, 225 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: you know, there is a lot of the tech sector 226 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: encompasses a lot of very different businesses. You know, of 227 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: an online advertising is not the same as chipmaking, but 228 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: we have seen that the personal computing business, and that's 229 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: what's really hurting Intel right now that it is clearly 230 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: not going to e really well. So that obviously has 231 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: implications for Dell, for parts of Apple's business in others besides, 232 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: but also some of the chipmaking peers like A m 233 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: D and Nvidia, who don't how quite the problems that 234 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: Intel might do, but that they're likely to see some 235 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: some similar effects in the most recent quarters. Well, what 236 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: is the issue, Alex for Intel that's holding it back? 237 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: Why is it that we're seeing this sort of slow 238 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: down in PC sales in particular that's affecting Intel. A 239 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: lot of spending got front loaded during the pandemic, so 240 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: it's a combination of two factors, you know, as people 241 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: had to work from home or they needed a better 242 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: computing setup, so people bought laptops. Companies bought laptops and 243 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: clearly some desktops as well. But there was also a 244 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: little bit more disposable income floating around. Some people, you know, 245 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: had more money during the pandemic, not everybody by any 246 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination, and that meant that they're able 247 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: to buy new gear now as personal finances become a 248 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: little bit more straightened. Uh and frankly, little people already 249 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: have these new laptops. There isn't as much demand, and 250 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: so there's quite a lot of inventory sitting around and 251 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: warehouses from from personal computing companies. So that's really pounding 252 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: what's already not a terribly happy ship at Intel. Who 253 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: that has been has been hemorrhaging market share to t SMC, 254 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: the big contract manufacturer of semi conductors, and is in 255 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: the middle of a huge strategic pivot to try to 256 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: catch up. And even before these earnings came out, Alex 257 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: you know, the CEO of Intel, Pad Gelsinger, has been 258 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: talking for quite some time about a multi year turnaround 259 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: plan that he's trying to implement an Intel. When you 260 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: have an outlook like this, does that raise some doubts 261 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: for investors about whether that multi year plan is working. 262 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: You know, he was reminding people on the call uh 263 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: that it is a multi year plan asking for more patients. 264 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: It clearly is, particularly in a space like semi conductors, 265 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: where the innovation cycles you know, over quite a long 266 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: time frame. You know, between each new generation of chips, 267 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: the time it takes to get new new fabs, that's 268 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: the sort of factories essentially for semi conductors, the time 269 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: it takes to get them online is considerable. What Intel 270 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: is doing is trying to pivot towards contract manufacturing. So 271 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: the contract manufacturing is you know, Apple makes Apple designs 272 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: chips for instance, that go into its iPhones. It does 273 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: not make them. It contracts that out to t SMC 274 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: in Taiwan. Intel is trying to get into that business 275 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: so that it can try and offset the change the 276 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: declines at seeing elsewhere. That is a multi year project 277 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: and a huge significant change that can't happen overnight. In 278 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: our last minute here, Alex, there of course, there was 279 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: a lot of investment expected from the chips and Science 280 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: Act that was passed in Washington last year. Can Intel 281 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: account support from that, Yes, And we're seeing of plans 282 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: to open new facilities, for example in Columbus, Ohio. UM 283 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: it's fifty billion of spending that is coming from the government. 284 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: There is a huge bun fight right now between the 285 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: various chipmakers and not just American chipmakers to get a 286 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: piece of that. It's going to go into UH subsidizing 287 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: new manufacturing facilities, to training UM new engineers, to getting 288 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: into some of the underlying technolog It is partly a 289 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: play to reduce dependence on Taiwan. And when we think 290 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: about reduce dependance on Taiwan, a lot of that's TSMC. 291 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: So it is in the long stone something that could 292 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: and should benefit into. 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