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Speaker 1: This is the Jaguars Broadcast Weekend Review Podcasts presented by

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Speaker 1: TIAA Bank. I'm JP Shadwick with the best of the

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Speaker 1: week from Jags Radio, Jaguars dot com, and our social

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Speaker 1: channels Jaguars Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. It's Friday, June ninth,

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Speaker 1: and plenty from Jaguars assistant coaches in their availability from

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Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon. That's coming up a little later, But the

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Speaker 1: biggest news this week came Wednesday morning when the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: unveiled the renderings for the Stadium of the Future project

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Speaker 1: on First Downtown, Jacksonville, dot Com and the Jaguars social channels.

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Speaker 1: The design is state of the art and the area

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Speaker 1: around the stadium is very much involved. I caught up

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Speaker 1: with HOK Design Principal Peter Brod and Jaguars President Mark

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Speaker 1: Lamping to go through the design and I asked Lamping

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Speaker 1: how we got to this point.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a big duy for sure.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: We first started the discussion, the public dialogue regarding the

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Speaker 2: need to deal with the stadium back in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: and three years ago we began a formal process with

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Speaker 2: the City of Jacksonville, and today marks the end of

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Speaker 2: that three year process with the unveiling of the design.

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Speaker 2: It was a very extensive process. It began with a

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Speaker 2: thorough evaluation of the existing stadium, which led us to

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Speaker 2: the conclusion that there was a possibility we could meet

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Speaker 2: our needs through a renovation. We then talked to our

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Speaker 2: fans and other stakeholders, primary amongst them the University of Florida,

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Speaker 2: University of Georgia, the tax Slayer Bowl, got input from

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Speaker 2: them in terms of what they would like to see

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Speaker 2: in a stadium in the future. We then had a

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Speaker 2: very extensive design competition. Firms from across the country presented

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Speaker 2: their conceptual designs, and last December we selected HOK and

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Speaker 2: since then we've been refining the design, working on the constructibility,

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Speaker 2: working on pricing, and we were just very excited to

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Speaker 2: be able to unveil today what the future could look like.

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Speaker 1: So Peter, obviously, some of the things that Mark just

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Speaker 1: talked about probably made this project so appealing for HOK

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Speaker 3: What stood out the.

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Speaker 4: Most, absolutely the potential for this project as a catalyst

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Speaker 4: not only for the surrounding development for all of downtown

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Speaker 4: Jacksonville was enormously exciting for us really from the outset

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Speaker 4: of the design. The design process was equally thorough as

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Speaker 4: Mark outlined, and we really prioritized fan comfort and fan

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Speaker 4: experience first and foremost throughout every decision made through the

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Speaker 4: design process, and that factors into some of the amenities

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Speaker 4: that you see in the artwork that was unveiled today.

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Speaker 4: Tremendously excited about that, and it really begins with that

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Speaker 4: experience has shown here walking the promenade and entering through

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Speaker 4: a new landscape and new garden ways that lead you

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Speaker 4: The concourses themselves now significantly expanded, as shown here, banded

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Speaker 4: to the point where we've now doubled, tripled, and in

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Speaker 4: some areas quadrupled. This width of those concourse spaces a

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Speaker 4: lot of discussion and excitement obviously around the facade and

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Speaker 4: the roof that was designed in such a way again

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Speaker 4: to maximize fan comfort, to reduce solar heat gain, to

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Speaker 4: shield from inclement weather, and additionally it becomes a really

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Speaker 4: signature and iconic element to the design as well. It's seldom,

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Speaker 4: I think that renovations are discussed as an icon and

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Speaker 4: this venue certainly has the opportunity to be just that

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: So the flexibility of this space, guys, I mean you

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Speaker 1: maybe some ideas down the road for other events that

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Speaker 1: the design phase of more seats, less seats, different setups

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Speaker 4: Certainly it starts with the seats, and it actually starts

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Speaker 4: with the roof too. Maximizing the full usage of this

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Speaker 4: and so that was central to the design decision from

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Speaker 4: a seating standpoint. Definitely, thinking about flexibility for NFL events,

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Speaker 4: the ability to play to a home crowd of around

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Speaker 4: the design, but then the flexibility to expand for multipurpose events.

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Speaker 4: For the Florida Georgia Game, we wanted to design the

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Speaker 4: expansion seating in a way that was as seamless as possible,

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Speaker 4: for those Florida Georgia fans or attendees of any of

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Speaker 4: these expanded events, Whether that's the Gator Bowl, the College

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Speaker 4: football playoffs, international soccer that was certainly factored into the

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Speaker 1: We see some of the renderings outside the stadium as well.

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Speaker 1: But how important is this stadium and this project to

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Speaker 1: the city of Jacksonville, in downtown Jacksonville in the future here, Well.

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Speaker 2: I think it's critical. I mean, I think we're at

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Speaker 2: a very important time in the history of Jacksonville. The

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Speaker 2: city's on fire on every measure, The Jaguars are in

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Speaker 2: ascending position, and you know, the primary purpose is to

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Speaker 2: have our downtown, like so many other downtowns across this

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Speaker 2: to have that downtown become a real economic engine that

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Speaker 2: particularly in those those underserved areas of Jacksonville. You know,

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Speaker 2: what we hope to do is try to replicate the

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Speaker 2: growth of the Brooklyn Livilla area that's you know, to

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Speaker 2: and it means bringing of bringing a new neighborhood where

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Speaker 2: an important part of that. And it's not just you know,

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Speaker 2: securing the future of the Jaguars, it's it's protecting the

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Speaker 2: very important Florida Georgia game that has happened here every

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Speaker 2: year and it's something that is really important for all

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Speaker 2: part of an expanded college football playoffs, to be able

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Speaker 2: to tract other events international soccer we mentioned, but concerts

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Speaker 2: and events that can make a big impact in this community.

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Speaker 2: And there isn't a new adm or arena that's being

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Speaker 2: I think now is our time.

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Speaker 1: Next step in this process is getting out in the community.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen community huddles. I think you're on the schedule for

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Speaker 1: all of them. Mark, you have a busy couple of

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Speaker 2: Well, what we want to do is is, you know,

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Speaker 2: want to do is do it in a very formal way.

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Speaker 2: So you know, starting Monday and continuing over the next

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Speaker 2: ten days, we will be going out into the community.

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Speaker 2: We will be holding fourteen community huddles. We will share

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Speaker 2: more details behind the design, ask for comments, ask for suggestions,

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Speaker 2: taking to consideration that input, and I think we'll end

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Speaker 2: up with a much We think we have a great

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Speaker 1: The full conversation with Jack's president Mark Lamping and HOK

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Speaker 1: Design principal Peter Broder available on Jaguars dot com and

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars social channels, plus renderings of the design available

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Speaker 1: at First Downtown Jacksonville dot com and Yes, as Lamping referenced,

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Speaker 1: there will be fourteen community huddles over a ten day

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Speaker 1: stretch starting Monday, June twelfth. Lamping is scheduled to attend

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Speaker 1: all of them and they are free to the public.

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Speaker 1: A full list of dates and locations available at Jaguars

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Speaker 1: dot com or First Downtown Jacksonville dot com. Now to football,

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Speaker 1: head coach Dog Peterson spoke with the media Monday ahead

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Speaker 1: of the final week of organized team activities, and he

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Speaker 1: discussed what the team has accomplished so far this offseason.

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Speaker 5: One, because the participation, the amount of guys that are

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Speaker 5: at because it's a voluntary off season program. Right next

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Speaker 5: So I've been really pleased and being having great participation,

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Speaker 5: great effort.

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Speaker 3: Guys are doing the right things.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we've been able to work on some stuff that

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Speaker 5: the coaches have, you know, taken away from last season

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Speaker 5: or new ideas, new thoughts. We've been able to implement those,

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Speaker 5: you know this this spring and and really, uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: just just get stuff on film. Really, but it's been

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Speaker 5: it's been a good off season so far. Have you

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Speaker 3: I have probably not.

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Speaker 1: That was Monday, but by Friday, the team had announced

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Speaker 1: that select player, including a majority of veterans, who participated

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Speaker 1: in the offseason program to date, well, they'll be excused

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Speaker 1: from the entire veteran mandatory mini camp. Rookies, first year players,

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Speaker 1: don't expect to hear from Trevor Lawrence next week. He

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Speaker 6: I mean, it doesn't change anything for us. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 6: I think anything, it's got to work even harder. I mean,

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Speaker 6: it doesn't really change anything for us. Regardless of the expectations.

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Speaker 6: The game is played on Sunday. You got to go

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Speaker 6: think you're gonna win, think you're gonna lose, doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 6: So and that's the mindset we had last year, being

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Speaker 6: same way. You know, we didn't. We still didn't get

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Speaker 6: a lot more.

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Speaker 3: Work to do.

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Speaker 7: Right in your own mind, and I know you're not

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Speaker 7: going to actually tell us a number, but you sort

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Speaker 7: of have a number in your own mind about how

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Speaker 3: Of the offense, because obviously you want more.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, obviously you're looking to improve in every

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Speaker 6: an offense, and at the end of the day, no,

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna give you answer, because we're gonna score

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Speaker 6: as many points it takes to win, and some weeks

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Speaker 6: that'll be Some weeks that might be thirty five, some

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Speaker 6: weeks that might be seventeen. Who knows what it's going

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Speaker 6: to be. Obviously, we want to score as many points

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Speaker 6: as we can. But the end of the day, if

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Speaker 6: that's what it's about.

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Speaker 8: Tutterding.

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Speaker 9: Have you've seen anything from Calvin or learned about Calvin?

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Speaker 10: He didn't know maybe you know three.

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Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon, and we'll begin on the offensive side. Quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: coach Mike McCoy talked about the difference of Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 12: And we always said from day to the first meeting,

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Speaker 12: We've done a lot of really good things. You're his talent.

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Speaker 12: But we all knew the type of player Trevor could become,

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Speaker 1: The offensive line has some moving arts in this offseason,

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Speaker 9: Evan not being here gives him more opportunity for sure.

437
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Speaker 9: So he's like I said, he's done good. He's fit

438
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Speaker 9: fit right in with the locker room, right with the room.

439
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 9: It was extremely excited to have him here, honestly.

440
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Speaker 1: And finally, wide receivers coach Chad Hall and here it's

441
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Speaker 1: an outstanding position group, but there's only one football to

442
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Speaker 1: go around. How does Hall battle the egos that could

443
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Speaker 1: come at the wide receiver position.

444
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Speaker 8: No, I mean that's my job, you know, And luckily

445
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Speaker 8: I know I haven't been coaching long, but I had

446
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Speaker 8: that experience in Buffalo with Stefan Diggs. You know, he

447
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 8: was a little bit of a whatever you want to

448
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Speaker 8: call him in Minnesota and then he came here and

449
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 8: that was my responsibility and I and we made sure that, uh,

450
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 8: you know, the great players are great players, and they

451
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 8: just want to win and if we win, it doesn't matter.

452
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 8: If we lose, then sometimes they're upset because they want

453
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Speaker 8: to do more. They felt they could help more, you know,

454
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Speaker 8: those star players. But no, we're not going to have

455
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Speaker 8: that issue. I mean, those guys we meet every morning,

456
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 8: those three in myself, and uh, we're I mean, they're

457
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Speaker 8: everything's going great.

458
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Speaker 13: What's your concern for a.

459
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Speaker 15: Guy like Calvin, who if he plays in the open

460
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Speaker 15: whichever expects.

461
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 8: It'll be twenty three months between games.

462
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: That's a huge playoffs.

463
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Speaker 10: What's your concern about where he could be rusty or

464
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 10: what his biggest issue would be if anyone you know,

465
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 10: dealing with that layout.

466
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Speaker 8: You know, I don't think that there's no concern on

467
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Speaker 8: my end. I think for him it's just you know,

468
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 8: that first game back, so he's probably gonna just have

469
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Speaker 8: some butterflies. You know, he's you know, but exciting butterfly.

470
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 8: You know, it's just been a while. But other than that.

471
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Speaker 8: Once he gets by those nerves, makes his first catch,

472
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Speaker 8: I think it's gonna be He'll be back to normal,

473
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 8: you know. I mean it's like riding a bike. You know,

474
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 8: he's done it at a high level already in this league,

475
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 8: so he's just got to get back on the bike.

476
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: Just in this offense. You your first look at this state.

477
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: How difficult is it to play receiver in this offense?

478
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Speaker 1: Considering the movement all over the place, Guys can line

479
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: up in different areas Christian jenside or outside if he

480
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: needs to be what kind of what kind of mental

481
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Speaker 1: makeup do you have?

482
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Speaker 8: Yeah, you gotta be smart. You gotta be smart. And

483
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 8: I challenge especially at the receiver position, because you can

484
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 8: play any spot. Sometimes you're gonna be the X, the Z,

485
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 8: the F, the Y, it doesn't matter. But the concepts

486
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 8: stay the same. So it's really the bigger picture that

487
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 8: you have to know. And then once you know where

488
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 8: to align, you know the concept. You know the big picture,

489
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 8: so you know what you're doing. But it takes time.

490
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Speaker 8: And I took time for me. I mean I told

491
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Speaker 8: them exactly what I did when I got here, got

492
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 8: the offense, looked at it started making note cards and

493
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 8: that's what that's my way of learning, and then I

494
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Speaker 8: figure out the con you know. So it's I tell

495
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Speaker 8: them how I do it. I give them ideas. I'm

496
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 8: always here to help for any time they come in

497
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Speaker 8: my office. But I also tell them there's one there's

498
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 8: there's only a couple of things you can control on

499
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Speaker 8: the football field. Well, knowing what to do is what

500
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 8: you can control. So if you're out there doing the

501
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 8: wrong thing, then you know you're not gonna play right.

502
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Speaker 8: And I tell them not to you know, just I'm

503
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 8: not you know, being mean or anything. It's just is

504
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 8: what it is like, this is your job. Is the

505
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 8: NFL paid a lot of money. If you don't know

506
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 8: what you're doing, not gonna be out there. And that

507
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Speaker 8: was one of the things I told today. I was like, hey,

508
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 8: you know two positions when you come back, you better

509
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 8: know three, you know, because that's what we need. And

510
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 8: it's hard, so answering your question.

511
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Speaker 3: You have to be smart.

512
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Speaker 8: But we have enough time where even the lowest common

513
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Speaker 8: denomena we can make it happen. And then again that's

514
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Speaker 8: my job.

515
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Speaker 1: Let's move along to the defense. Senior defensive assistant Bob

516
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: Sutton has over forty years of coaching experience, over twenty

517
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Speaker 1: of those in the NFL. He was the Army head

518
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Speaker 1: coach from nineteen ninety one to ninety nine, and then

519
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: started his NFL career as an assistant in two thousand

520
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: and That includes two different stints as a defensive coordinator

521
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, with the Jets and the Chiefs. With Sutton,

522
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Speaker 1: I started with a major theme for the defense moving ahead,

523
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Speaker 1: how do you get more pass rush out of this team?

524
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 1: That's a that's a simple question, but maybe not as

525
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: simple answer.

526
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Speaker 10: Well, I think you know, of course most I think

527
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 10: the most common way people analyze pass rush of sacks.

528
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 10: My personal feeling would be that pressure is one of

529
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Speaker 10: the really important things. I've used this with players before

530
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Speaker 10: when I was in Kansas City at justin Houston and

531
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Speaker 10: he got twenty two sacks, half sack short of the record.

532
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Speaker 10: Now he was in there was seven hundred and fifty

533
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Speaker 10: some passes in that year. Now, if you get twenty

534
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 10: two out of seven fifty in baseball, you're done. Basketball,

535
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 10: you're done, right and football is it's a mark.

536
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Speaker 8: But the point of it is is.

537
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Speaker 10: To get a sack isn't really the most important. We

538
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 10: love them, we're they're great, but the most important thing

539
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 10: is keep pressure on the quarterback. You know, if you

540
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 10: don't affect the quarterback in today's game, I think is

541
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 10: really hard to win, you know. And in fact, if

542
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 10: you ever look at QBR the quarterback ratings, and you

543
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 10: look at the stat sheet we get after the game,

544
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 10: the team with the highest QBR usually wins. And so

545
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 10: when you say QBR, you're really talking about affecting the quarterback,

546
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Speaker 10: and that's that's sacks, pressures, move them off the spot, disguise,

547
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 10: tight coverage, and I really think that's the only.

548
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Speaker 3: Way you win. You know.

549
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Speaker 10: Completion percentages in the last I think are up to

550
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 10: about sixty six or sixty seven percent, that's the average,

551
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 10: you know, So you got to play great team defense

552
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Speaker 10: to affect the quarterbacks today.

553
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Speaker 1: A major part of that pass rush Josh Allen and

554
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Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker under the tutelage of outside linebackers coach Bill Shuey.

555
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: I asked Jim how Allen can expand his late season

556
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Speaker 1: success over a seventeen game schedule.

557
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 16: It's extremely difficult to stretch out over a full seventeen games,

558
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 16: but you know that's the goal right there, because it's

559
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 16: a the.

560
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 3: Production that you want.

561
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Speaker 16: You can't have lapses like Josh had, and he knows that.

562
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 16: And sometimes when you're aware of that, it doesn't necessarily

563
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 16: help the situation. You know, because somebody had asked me

564
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 16: earlier and I said, you know, the one thing about

565
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Speaker 16: Josh being a team guy, like he loves being a Jaguar,

566
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Speaker 16: you know, last year he's a captain. He wants to

567
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 16: be the guy to make the play that changes the game,

568
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 16: and he works hard at it. But the situation still

569
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 16: has to present itself. You just have to be prepared

570
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 16: when it does. And so that's what we say, you know,

571
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Speaker 16: like we always want guys to do their job. Do

572
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 16: you're one to eleven, trust in the process and trust

573
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Speaker 16: the man next to you that he's going to do

574
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Speaker 16: his job. And you know, I think for him, the

575
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 16: consistency part is real when you look at the whys

576
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 16: behind some of that stuff, you know, some of that

577
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 16: are going to be out of his control. Sometimes he

578
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 16: just got to keep going. And I think that's kind

579
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 16: of what he did last year, Like he yeah, sure

580
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 16: there was some frustration when the production went down for

581
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Speaker 16: that lull, but he ken't working hard and kept having

582
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 16: having faith and not only himself, but the guys around him,

583
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 16: and the trust that the coaching staff had on, you know,

584
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 16: in him to keep putting him in the position. And

585
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 16: then eventually things turn around, and they have a tendency

586
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 16: to do that. Like though, they can come in bunches.

587
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 16: You had a couple, you know, you get a couple

588
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 16: of two SAT games and and and things change around

589
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 16: a little bit for him. So I think for him

590
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 16: the thought processes is a lesson be learned from last year.

591
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 16: You started off pretty good, you had a lull, then

592
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 16: you close pretty good at the end. You know, just

593
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 16: keep keep focused on the next play, the next play,

594
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 16: the next play. You know, you talk about sixty minutes

595
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 16: of football and then you you're taking stuff from the game.

596
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 16: But at the end of the day, you don't really

597
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 16: want to go and evaluate your game at halftime. Right

598
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 16: like that, You think about the next series, the next play,

599
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 16: and then you see where it ends it where it

600
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 16: ends up at the very end of the game. But

601
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 16: for Josh, just keep he keeps working, He keeps working

602
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 16: in game, he keeps working in practice, and I'm excited

603
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 16: to see him hopefully soon how give us.

604
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Speaker 1: A degree of difficulty of what Trayvon Walker did last

605
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: year going outside really for the first time.

606
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: He didn't do a lot of that at Georgia, and.

607
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: You know, his his effort at least in trying to

608
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: play outside and maybe his ability to move around as

609
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: the season goes.

610
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 16: Yeah, I do think it's I think it's I think

611
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 16: there is a certain level of difficulty to doing that,

612
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 16: and I think some of the learning curve that he had.

613
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 16: I mean, that's that's real. You know, that's real. There's

614
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 16: you look at the space that's involved. You look at

615
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 16: just the stance sometimes, you know, being a two point stance.

616
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 16: You know, I remember working in Chicago with Trevis Gibson,

617
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 16: who was essentially an interior d line. When he came out,

618
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 16: he had to work on his stance just for a while,

619
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Speaker 16: just to get comfortable in the stance. You know, you alone,

620
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 16: playing the position in the scheme and everything like that.

621
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Speaker 16: But then you talk about you know, you're looking at

622
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Speaker 16: the angles that happened. The angles are different on the outside.

623
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Speaker 16: You know, you can look at and say, well, is

624
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 16: a three technique the same as a live technique and

625
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 16: it does play out the same and a lot of

626
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 16: in a lot of aspects, but just the angles, the space,

627
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 16: some of that is different. The timing of things is different,

628
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 16: and so you know, on a on a bigger scale,

629
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Speaker 16: you can say, yeah, well, if I'm playing on an

630
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 16: edge of one guy, it's going to be the same

631
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 16: whether I'm on the center, I'm the edge of the guard,

632
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 16: on the edge of the tackle. But the further you

633
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 16: move out, the more space there is, and then the

634
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 16: more you know the space of the game, the timing

635
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 16: of the hands, the timing of the move area, and

636
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 16: all that other stuff changes. From that standpoint, I thought

637
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 16: he did a great job of playing physical in the

638
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 16: run game and setting edges that sometimes gets overlooked until

639
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 16: you don't have the ability to do that. Like those

640
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 16: are one of those things you almost take it for

641
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 16: granted when you have a guy like Josh, a guy

642
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 16: like Trayvon and Klevon does a good job, you know,

643
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 16: and that stuff. And the guys we had last year,

644
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 16: I thought they did a pretty good job. We had

645
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 16: a good group from that standpoint, So I don't think

646
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 16: we as a staff took it for granted or anything

647
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 16: like that, but you can see where you could almost

648
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 16: you know, naturally do it. But he did a great

649
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 16: job there. He did a pretty good job coverage too.

650
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 16: I know there's a couple of those wheel routes you

651
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 16: know where you know where Josh got caught up and

652
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Speaker 16: trey Von. Though for a guy that's coming from a

653
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Speaker 16: down lineman in college to go out there and play,

654
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 16: you know, I can't remember the exact number, but I

655
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 16: feel like eighty ninety coverge reps in a year, that's

656
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 16: a that's a pretty substantial And the coverage techniques that

657
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 16: he played, it wasn't like he was playing the same

658
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 16: coverage technique every time, and so you know, those are strides,

659
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 16: the passtresh part of it. I think he did learn

660
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 16: and get better as it goes. It may not have

661
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 16: shown up in the numbers, but that was the thing

662
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 16: coming into this offseason, Let's see if we can, you know,

663
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 16: kind of start this offseason where we finished last season

664
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Speaker 16: and bill from there and not taking any steps back.

665
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 16: And I think he came in that way. He spent

666
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 16: some time on his own in the off season before

667
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 16: he even got here, and you could tell I felt

668
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 16: like he came in better than when he left last year.

669
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 16: So now it was my job you know, along with

670
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 16: Mike and with buck and Rory and everybody else that's

671
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 16: here to collaborative, collaborative, to work together and see if

672
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 16: we can keep mentioning him forward. And I think I

673
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 16: think he has now. It's just gonna be a matter of,

674
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 16: you know, the opportunity and see how it translations into production.

675
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: Defensive line coach Brinson Buckner had more on Trayvon Walker,

676
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: including his ability inside.

677
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 17: I mean, Treyvon can handle anything because Trey Vunn was

678
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 17: an inside guy that we moved outside.

679
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 3: So I just let you know how athletic that he is.

680
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 17: I think, once again, the football maturity, the football IQ

681
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 17: a lot of things Treyvunn saw last year as an

682
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 17: outside linebackers was the first time he ever saw those

683
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 17: as a football player because he's never been in that world.

684
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 17: And I thought he handled it perfectly. And I think

685
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 17: he's coming back here this year knowing, anticipating what he

686
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 17: needs to know, and he's putting in the work. You know,

687
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 17: he split time between me and coach Shuey, and we

688
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 17: bring the whole group together and we work because there's

689
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 17: a lot of crossover and you just you can see

690
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 17: them the football maturity starting to kick in. You starting

691
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 17: to see the body starting to unlock. Now where it's

692
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 17: not like, oh, I'm finna be surprised about No. I

693
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 17: saw this ten, fifteen, twenty times last year.

694
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: Let me to it.

695
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 17: So I don't think that is a challenge for him.

696
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 17: I think with trey Von, he's a football player, and

697
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 17: that's why we loved him so much. We didn't look

698
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 17: at himself. He's an outside linebacker, he's a defensive We

699
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 17: saw a football player, and I think the game is

700
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 17: built around those guys that can play those multiple positions

701
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 17: with no kind of drop off. And that's what he's becoming.

702
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: Who is the d one smooth? Who is who is

703
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: that role? Because he had some big key roles in

704
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: the late in the season.

705
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 17: He has some some great roles, and I don't think

706
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 17: we have one because what he was was a unique guy.

707
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 17: But we have some guys who bring some special to

708
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 17: the table. Or the young man out of Louisville who

709
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 17: was dressed the yasia, the gasia is a bullet off

710
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 17: the edge and he's showing in these ot as that

711
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 17: you know he understands the run game too, So that's

712
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 17: a that's that's something he's gonna bring bring to the table,

713
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 17: you know, inside playing with guys who have guys like

714
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 17: like Dixon, who that we moved from outside linebacker and

715
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 17: moved him into the defensive line room. And he's starting

716
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 17: to get a little bit bigger now with didn't effect

717
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 17: his speed, but he still has his power. So he

718
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 17: brings a unique skill set that can go in there

719
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 17: and play. So I don't think you really ever replaced

720
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 17: guys like Smooth because they're so special.

721
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: Now I'll be undermining what no kind of player he is.

722
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 17: I think he's a special player. But guys can add

723
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 17: their different flavor to it that can alleviate some of

724
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 17: those things, but just do it a different way.

725
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: Tony Gilbert is the inside linebackers coach for the Jags.

726
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: He has the league's leading tackler in Foyer Alukun in

727
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: his room, of course, but twenty twenty two first round

728
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: pick Devin Lloyd was under the microscope as a rookie

729
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: last season. Gilbert explained his progression as an off the

730
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: ball linebacker.

731
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: He's seen great improvement off the mall.

732
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Speaker 18: And I think for him because he did so much

733
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 18: in college moving around, I think for him just being

734
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 18: a stackbacker was probably it's probably an adjustment, but I

735
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 18: think after seeing and going through his going pains of

736
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 18: the rookie year, coming back in the end and having

737
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 18: some success, Like he actually texts me, you know, our

738
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 18: first week back and was like, hey, I'm tired of

739
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 18: putting media ocre film out.

740
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: There, and I said, I love it.

741
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 8: I said, yeah, I want to help you.

742
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 18: You know, we all want to help you be the

743
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 18: best version of yourself and be the best player that

744
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 18: you want to be. So you can tell mentally physically

745
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 18: mostly he's in a great spot.

746
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 3: You know. I think he took some.

747
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 18: Time off to really just give his body and his

748
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 18: mind arrest, and he's been great.

749
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: Let's go to the secondary, starting with safeties coach Cody Griham.

750
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: Andre Cisco has been in the weight room this offseason.

751
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: It looks like but Grim knows the improvement can continue

752
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: for number five.

753
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

754
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 15: Yeah, he made strides as the season went on. He's

755
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 15: still left a few plays out there, whether he dropped

756
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 15: the ball or this and that, and then we were

757
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 15: working on this on this ots, you know, as far

758
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 15: as you know, putting him down so much strong, you know,

759
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 15: so we get some different looks that he doesn't always

760
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 15: get unless you know, he'll get a little bit, but

761
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 15: off of motion to round out his game better. We're

762
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 15: making better in the wrong game this season for sure.

763
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 15: And then on the back end, I mean he's got

764
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 15: a gift. I mean, he's got range, and he's got

765
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 15: good eyes, he's got a good feel back there. Now

766
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 15: we just gotta make some of the plays we missed

767
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 15: and then have a big hear.

768
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: Andrew Wingard still around here, man, just making plays, big moments.

769
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: He's out there some of those three safety looks. So

770
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: kind of intangibles can does he bring to this not

771
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: only the safety room, but his defense is zone.

772
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 10: Yeah.

773
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 15: I mean he's a lunch pale type guy. He comes

774
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 15: to work every days.

775
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 8: He's a pro.

776
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 15: He works hard. He understands the whole defense. His job

777
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 15: are the rules, and then that's part of the reason

778
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 15: he had so much success down Then we, you know,

779
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 15: asking him to do some stuff whether it's linebacker that

780
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 15: he was able to understand and then obviously make plays.

781
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 15: You know, we harp on turnovers and stuff like that,

782
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 15: and do we get that, you know, punch out versus Ravens,

783
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 15: which is huge and pick first Tennessee where It's just

784
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 15: stuff we always talk about as far as you know.

785
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 15: Tennessee was spread first, probably quick game and he jumps

786
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 15: it and they throw the hitch and he makes a play.

787
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 15: So he's able to take stuff from the meeting room

788
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 15: to the field. And then he's always just pro, shows

789
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 15: up to work, gets his job done.

790
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: And finally cornerbacks de Shaye Townsend played in the NFL

791
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: for thirteen seasons, twelve of those with the Steelers. I

792
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: asked him about the mindset of cornerback Tyson Campbell and

793
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: his improvement moving into year three.

794
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 19: You know, one thing that we talked about from the

795
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 19: first year after I saw him and watch his tape

796
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 19: from before I coached him to the next year was

797
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 19: all right, let's find our ways to find the ball,

798
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 19: you know, turning some of those plays into PBUs of

799
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 19: getting the head around.

800
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: And we saw him make some good players on.

801
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 19: Some back shoulders and fast share his interceptions that he got.

802
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 19: His next step is all right, let's turn these pvus

803
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 19: in interceptions and each year you're gonna see him improve.

804
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 19: You know, the more reps he gets, the more opportunity

805
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 19: he gets to locate and.

806
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: Track the ball.

807
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 19: You know, you see him working at it daily, and

808
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 19: that's gonna be the next step. You know, it's not

809
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 19: just covering the guy. Let's find ways to make them

810
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 19: plain when they do throw it your way, and that's

811
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 19: gonna be our ultimate goal.

812
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 3: Like, that's what he grinds and works on.

813
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 19: He's working on a little part of the game or

814
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 19: understanding what the offense are doing.

815
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: And that's the thing that you love about it.

816
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 19: Like he we meet every morning, like Wednesday, Thursday, during

817
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 19: the week, we meet every morning before practice before everybody

818
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 19: else goes, and we watch tape, we watch other guys,

819
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 19: we watch the offenses. So he's taking that next step

820
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 19: to make sure if it's not just the physical part,

821
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 19: it's a middle part that's gonna separate him.

822
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: And he's working at it.

823
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: How hard is that to you know, he had that

824
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 1: you're talking about tracking the ball head submit, how hard

825
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: is that to overcome?

826
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: To improve a part? It is improvement.

827
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's just something that you just got to work.

828
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 19: You know, it's a timing thing or field thing. It's

829
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 19: also understanding what they're trying to do and where the

830
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 19: quarterbacks trying to throw it at. So it's it's something

831
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 19: that's you know, if everybody can do it, we would

832
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 19: all be doing it.

833
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: But it's something that you have to work at and

834
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: he's working on.

835
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 1: So he didn't have bad ball skills.

836
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: He's just h yeah, you gotta work at him.

837
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 19: Now, you gotta work But you know, some of it

838
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 19: is you know, you look at a lot of guys

839
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 19: in college that taught to play through the hands. So

840
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 19: you got to think they got ten thousand reps of

841
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 19: telling him. What their college coach to him to do

842
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 19: is go play through the hands because that's their rules.

843
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 19: Like you can make contact in college without it being

844
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 19: a PI, but in this league is they're gonna throw

845
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 19: a flag, so you better gets hit around.

846
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 3: So you gotta do some stuff to coach some things

847
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: out of young guys.

848
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 19: And he's one of those guys that you just have

849
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 19: to coach it out of him, and he's working on it.

850
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: Darius Williams a little older than the rest of the room, right,

851
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: a different path to the college stuff. So how does

852
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: that help him that just he's lived some.

853
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 19: Life now he has you know, he's lived some life,

854
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 19: but he's not old in football years. You know, he's

855
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 19: a little bit older when his path to get here

856
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 19: but his body might not be as old as the

857
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 19: years that has been in the league. So but it's

858
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 19: just its intensibles, you know, playing with some different guys

859
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 19: that are really good players. And then he has to

860
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 19: be self made, you know. He went to a small

861
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 19: school and went to UAB, was a free agent, so

862
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 19: he had to figure it out the tough way of

863
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 19: this is what I need to do to be a pro.

864
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 19: And that type of things that you can give the

865
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 19: young guys in the rest of the room is invaluable,

866
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 19: you know.

867
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 3: And he's that type of guy that he's a pro.

868
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 19: He's quiet, not gonna say much, but he comes to

869
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 19: work and he'll share with you if you ask.

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