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Speaker 2: got a legendary moment coming up in a matter of moments.

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Speaker 2: It's Drew Brees and yes, he is going to talk

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Speaker 2: about going from Well San Diego and the impact of

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Speaker 2: being in New Orleans with coach Peyton. We talked about

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson earlier TJ. Huschman Zada, and we talked about

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Speaker 2: the possibilities of what that relationship houring look like or

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Speaker 2: what it could have been as the reason why Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton didn't want to go in that direction further with

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson at the quarterback's position. But before we go

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Speaker 2: into that, how you feeling man? Hour two? How are

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Speaker 2: you feeling like? Feeling good?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: First hour went by fast?

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Speaker 5: You know they they got fast, flying right on by,

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Speaker 5: feeling good. Ready to give them another another good hour.

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Speaker 5: When we get our we're gonna get our main man

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Speaker 5: We're gonna get cuffs caught talk a little round ball.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, looking forward to the second hour, and there's

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Speaker 5: no Plexico here today, so it will be discussing what's

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Speaker 5: going on with the LA Lakers. But until then, let's

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Speaker 5: get this going.

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Speaker 2: Legendary moment conversations with a legend and now this is

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Speaker 2: your legendary moment. How important was it for you to

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Speaker 2: connect with Sean Payton And how much of a difference

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Speaker 2: was that for you moving forward in your career or

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Speaker 2: would it have been that if they just continued on

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Speaker 2: with you and San Diego Because a lot of people

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Speaker 2: How important was that? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: that was what surprised me so much. Was in my

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Speaker 2: That I ran in San Diego.

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, wait, coach, I thought you ran West

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Speaker 6: Coast and you guys were doing He said, no, these

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Speaker 6: and so this is going to be a staple in

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Speaker 6: I mean, most guys coming, especially in a tough situation,

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Speaker 6: was definitely that like I gave him that head coach,

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Speaker 6: respect right, but it was very much a friendship and

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Speaker 2: That was a legendary moment. That was Drew Brees. If

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Speaker 2: on Game Presents. There's a whole lot of awesome, awesome

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Speaker 2: legends that are on their awesome interviews, but this one

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Speaker 2: was pretty timely. I'll say TJ because just listening to

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Speaker 2: feel as though he just he didn't Sean Payton did

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Speaker 2: not rock with Russell Wilson. If Sean Payton comes in

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Speaker 2: This was a decision. Both were decisions. Now, while he

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, because we all knew that the La Chargers

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Speaker 2: and I think Russell Willson had a part in that.

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Speaker 2: It was interesting to hear Drew Brees say that he

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Speaker 5: I believe Russell Wilson was one of the biggest reasons

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Speaker 2: And we just talked about this earlier.

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Speaker 5: You know, he spoke highly of Russell Wilson working at

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Speaker 5: felt like what Russ did well Sean Payton, would you know,

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Speaker 5: they would mesh, they would mesh and what Sean Payte

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Speaker 5: because let's be honest. When when I think of Drew Brees,

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Speaker 5: I think of Drew Brees. They were such a great

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Speaker 5: and Sean Peyton helped each other so much. He helped

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Speaker 5: Drew as a quarterback. Drew elevated him as a head coach.

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Speaker 5: I mean they elevated each other. And I felt like

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Speaker 5: Sean Payton he probably saw that Russell Wilson maybe not

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Speaker 5: each other out that that wasn't the case. Drew Brees

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Speaker 5: a special man. That dude, that dude is special. And

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Speaker 5: I watched your legendary moment with him and he said, uh,

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Speaker 5: I know how a Sean Payton offense is supposed to look.

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Speaker 2: Oh do it? Do it?

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Speaker 5: When I watched the game and I'm not seeing in

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Speaker 2: This is not how he wants his offense to look.

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Speaker 5: And so when Drew said that, and he's watching from

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Speaker 2: Is not what he's looking for. Timons off.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And so he's not thrown with that anticipation. And

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Speaker 5: Drew knows what it should look like. And when you

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Speaker 5: he said it, man, I know what a Sean Payton

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Speaker 2: That, and this ain't it. Yeah. I was there when

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Speaker 2: I was pretty cut and dry. And he did also

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Speaker 2: just just watching Drew Brees and Vinnie Sutherland out there

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Speaker 2: weight was too heavy to bear TJ. It was just

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Speaker 2: I don't think was like I don't know that he's

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Speaker 5: Career, and he probably didn't. And that's which which because

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Speaker 5: in college? So let me look up his did he?

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Speaker 2: Because I think you got to be an All American

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Speaker 2: I do remember that. Joe didn't let me go. He

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Speaker 8: Right you are, LeVar and big news in the NFL today,

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Speaker 2: Appreciate, enjoy your day. I love you do such an

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Speaker 2: Let's get to it. We got Cuffs the Legend coming on.

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Speaker 1: Now, it's time to check in with Cuffs the legend

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Speaker 1: from some Dude show podcast on up on Game Presents,

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Speaker 1: CUFFSA is giving you a spicy takes on what's going down.

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Speaker 2: Hope you can pick the heat like Lebron And.

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Speaker 1: Now here's Cuffs the Legend.

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Speaker 2: It's go time. Here it is. When you hear that sound,

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Speaker 2: I'll say, hey, how you doing and then let you

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Speaker 2: we go, Hey, Cuffs, how are you doing? Great? To

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Speaker 2: great to have you on the show. Uh, you know, okay,

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Speaker 3: God go ahead, fellas, welcome back. I'm happy to be back.

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Speaker 3: Many listen, last night.

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Speaker 4: We just witness We witnessed last night in Crypto Arena

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Speaker 4: one of the greatest individual performances we've ever seen by

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Speaker 5: Man say that for the people, and hey, cups, let

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Speaker 3: You you you you.

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Speaker 2: Got that de Lo jersey? Yet you got that Oh

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Speaker 3: Let me the first.

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Speaker 4: before the trade deadline, pretty much the entire Laker nation

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Speaker 3: And I just think if the Lakers.

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Speaker 4: this d low energy in the bottle, this charismas, we

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Speaker 4: we might be getting that confetti, man, because throw the

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Speaker 4: coming back soon. Jarrett Vanderbilt the X factor defensively, the chesspeas.

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Speaker 4: He's coming back. Nobody wants to see the Lakers if

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Speaker 2: I feel like if I say Denver Nuggets and and

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Speaker 2: and I know this is y'all's team, and TJ you

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Speaker 4: I mean, if I take my heart out of this,

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Speaker 4: The finals matchup. We saw the game the other night.

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Speaker 4: Jayleen Brown get going. I want to see those games

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Speaker 3: You can get.

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Speaker 4: That's an intriguing matchup because presenters. As we saw the

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Speaker 3: If I'm a bet man, I would say Celtis and Nuggets.

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Speaker 5: Because let's let's get back to the Lakers when this no, no,

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Speaker 5: As you were talking about D'Angelo Russell. He has another

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Speaker 5: the Lakers? The Lakers don't win a championship, Are we

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Speaker 4: Mando de Loo in a tough situation because the fans

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Speaker 4: I will say his performance last night, all it does

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Speaker 4: So I say the pressure is really on d Lo

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Speaker 4: So last night's performance is all finding Danny. Everybody's laughing today,

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Speaker 4: everybody's feeling good. But you've got Minnesota coming up next,

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Speaker 3: That's a big game. They sitting at the top two

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Speaker 3: in the West right now.

435
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 4: So you got to bring it consistently, and I want

436
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 4: to see if he can do that to lock the

437
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 4: tresh run right here.

438
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Speaker 5: I mean, you talk consistency and you beat Oklahoma City,

439
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 5: you lose the Sacramento, you beat the Bucks. I mean,

440
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 5: can we can we get some type of consistent ball?

441
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Speaker 2: Right?

442
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 4: That's the thing that's so stressful cheering for this team

443
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 4: as a fan because it's an emotional roller coaster from

444
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 4: night tonight. Like the Milwaukee game, they looked like they

445
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 4: had the game pretty much the first three quarters, fourth

446
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: quarter collapse once again, it looked real grim last night.

447
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 4: The last minute or so, right, they pulled it out.

448
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 4: But then a couple of games before the Denver game,

449
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 4: they had that game in the bag and Denver beat

450
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 4: them again times eight times in a row. Now they

451
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 4: lost to Denver Sacramento Kings game heartbreak. That was the

452
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 4: inexcusable loss in my opinion, But flip side of that,

453
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Speaker 4: you have a chance to get your licked back against

454
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Speaker 4: Sacramento on the road next week. That's why I say

455
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 4: all these games right now are like playoff games right

456
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Speaker 4: now for the Lakers because you can't afford to lose

457
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 4: to in a row in the West. Maybe in the East,

458
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 4: but not the West.

459
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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about win beIN Yama. I mean,

460
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Speaker 2: he he's been impressive, man, and he's really really I mean,

461
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: he is really showing why the fanfare and why the

462
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: hype around him has been so it was so big

463
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Speaker 2: and it was so low. What's your past? What was

464
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: your take on what's your take on on win Ben

465
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Speaker 2: Yama right now?

466
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Speaker 3: Like?

467
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Speaker 2: Where does he compare for you in terms of where

468
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 2: he's starting on his journeys as a rookie in this league?

469
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: What's what like? How do you see his trajectory?

470
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Speaker 4: I think he is the best prospect I've ever seen

471
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 4: since Lebron James can I came out of high school.

472
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 4: I look at him like more of a I look

473
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Speaker 4: at him at it as a guard even though he's

474
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Speaker 4: seventy five. I've see some T Max similarities. He got

475
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 4: a nice, nice hesitation dribble. He can get his shot off.

476
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 4: You saw the play the other night against Sengoon when

477
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 4: they played the Rockets.

478
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 3: He blocked his shot at.

479
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 4: The rim, got his own rebound after the block, pushed

480
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 4: it down. Win between the legs, step back three. It's

481
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Speaker 4: a seven foot five guys.

482
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Speaker 3: Shout out.

483
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Speaker 4: Shout out to his trainer, by the way, good friend

484
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 4: of mine, Tim Martin. I've seen footage of this kid

485
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 4: through my god him since he was like eleven twelve

486
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 4: years old. Like at first it looked like a baby

487
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: giraffe to be honest, like you didn't know how to

488
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 4: shape up as far as the coordination.

489
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Speaker 3: But I think if he can just stay.

490
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Speaker 4: In the weight room, work on his core, y'all know

491
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 4: that being football players too, like athletes, he got to

492
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 4: build his core strength. But I think he's gonna fotball doc, Yeah, exactly.

493
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 4: He gotta work on that for it, man. Get that

494
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 4: medicine ball, yo, get that medicine ball work going, and

495
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: get stronger, stronger base. But I think he really is.

496
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 4: His trajectory right now is far any major injuries. Man,

497
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 4: he is the He is gonna be the face of

498
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 4: the league when Lebron walks away because he's so marketable

499
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 4: and he's hungry, like you see him gonna get chet

500
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 4: hungerm like he really despised his playing against the Oklahoma

501
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 4: City Thunder and check. So we're gonna see that robbery too.

502
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 4: That's gonna be a robbery. We didn't get a chance

503
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 4: to see Bill Russell and Will Chamberlain, so we're getting

504
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 4: to see not only Winby but check. Honkerm is a

505
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 4: unicorn as well. So we're gonna see that robbery for

506
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 4: years to come. I'm excited, man, as a basketball fan,

507
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 4: just a pure.

508
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 3: Fit, like, I can't wait to see what he's.

509
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 4: Going to add to his game because we've never seen

510
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 4: a seven foot guy on an island at the top

511
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 4: of the key, going between the leg, behind the back.

512
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: Crossovers, step back.

513
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 4: He's throwing it off the glass to itself, dunking on people,

514
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 4: and he's only what twenty twenty one years old, so.

515
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 3: It's going to be unreal. Man.

516
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 4: I just pray the kick and stay healthy because he

517
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 4: is going to be boxed office and he's going to

518
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 4: be the faith of the league.

519
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 2: Sure, I mean MVP cuffs.

520
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 5: In years past, it was you had to have one

521
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 5: of the better records in NBA and it's normally the

522
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 5: best player on the team, but that for Jason Tatum,

523
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 5: that that he fits the criteria.

524
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: But when you talk MVP, he's way down on the list.

525
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 5: And by far in the way that the Celxis have

526
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 5: the best record in the NBA. Why is that the

527
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 5: case with Jason Tatum that the gold posts are moved

528
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 5: but it wasn't like that for other players.

529
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 4: I think because people have seen the self attacked success

530
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 4: in his absence when he's been out. But I think

531
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 4: his MVP case he had a strong.

532
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: Case this year.

533
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 4: Boston has the best record in the NBA and in

534
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference. But he really hurt his case the

535
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 4: other night against Denver on the road, not showing up.

536
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 4: Those are the games that not only US real basketball

537
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: fans watched, but you've got casual fans.

538
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: Who on those prime time games.

539
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 4: He didn't show up, man, And I've seen a lot

540
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: of voters, a lot of writers saying the same thing

541
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 4: on Twitter as social media.

542
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 3: He didn't show up.

543
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 4: So I don't think he's gonna have a chance. I

544
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 4: think that knocked them out of the race, But I

545
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 4: think the MVP race it would have been nb's award

546
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 4: if he wouldn't have got injured with that miniscous situation.

547
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: But I think it's got it. We're not talking about

548
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 4: in the MVP race. Who I think should finish in

549
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 4: the top two is Shake Gilgers Alexander, Oklahoma City's thunder.

550
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: You know that wiggle.

551
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 4: He has top two or three wiggle in the world

552
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 4: other than Keim and Kyrie. Pretty much like he is

553
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 4: averaging in like thirty two with thirty three points a

554
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: game this year, And I say he has a strong

555
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 4: case to actually win it because Okac has been in

556
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 4: the rebuilding mode for the last but six seven years now,

557
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 4: the stock piland draft picks, and now he has them

558
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 4: sitting number one in the West this year, the toughest division,

559
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 4: the toughest conference, So that it's a surprise right now

560
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 4: to see, Okay, see with all these young guys, these

561
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 4: first year guys, these second and third year guys, and

562
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 4: for him to lead that team, the LA Clippers will

563
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 4: forever regret trading Shake Gilders Alexander.

564
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: For oh Man, that's crazy.

565
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: Gonna they're gonna regret that trade forever.

566
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: Is there any regrets on Ben Simmons yet? Sure?

567
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 3: The Jiggers Hoverard Man, the James lately. I think it's time.

568
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 4: I think it's time for Ben Simmons just define just

569
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 4: to find himself.

570
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: Man.

571
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 4: He deal with a lot of mental health stuff as well.

572
00:29:59,200 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: With these injuries.

573
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 4: I think he's topped him to walk away from the

574
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 4: game because it's like he just cannot find he just

575
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 4: can't find his help.

576
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: Man.

577
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 4: He's getting hurt, he's getting injured. He's not mentally he's

578
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 4: not mentally there. I don't think he really loved basketball.

579
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 4: I'm sure you'll played with certain guys who they had

580
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 4: the intangibles they had to attribute physically, but they might

581
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 4: not have that real passion for this. I don't know

582
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 4: if Being really had that same passion. He has the money.

583
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: He got the Max contract very young. You know, he

584
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 4: got the designer jury to close and all that. So

585
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: it's like, I think he's really one of those guys

586
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: where he can just step off outside of basketball and

587
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 4: flourish other situations.

588
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: Man.

589
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: But he's okay with calling him a bumb Like he's

590
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: okay with that. You think he's just I got my money,

591
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: I got a Max contract. Hey, I walk around, I

592
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: got my designer jeweler on y'all could call me a

593
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: bomb all you want, but I got paid like Kyle.

594
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just wouldn't want it that way.

595
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: I give the money back, honestly. I rather people know,

596
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: like you know what, like I was a real one,

597
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: Like I just don't want to be caught no bomb man,

598
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: Like you can't have my name being drug like that

599
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: in the streets, you know what I mean?

600
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: Like do y'all got your dog? Y'all got that dog

601
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: in y'all?

602
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: Man, So like y'all can't relate to somebody who doesn't

603
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: want it, like it drives me crazy.

604
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: Certain players like.

605
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 4: That are an enigma, man, in all sports, Like you

606
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 4: cannot understand why they don't have that drive, Like they

607
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: don't work out at four or five in the morning. Like, Bro,

608
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 4: I am a grown ass man right now, and I

609
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 4: still work out every morning seven eight o'clock. Like it's

610
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 4: musclinging me. I'm sure you y'all still boy. I see

611
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 4: you in there, man, I see the trap.

612
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, TJ Yeah TJ. I told you. I told

613
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: you TJ. You know I ain't hit the gym in

614
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: about three weeks. Bro, I'm slacking, yo.

615
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: I want to say this, pubbly man, congrat to you

616
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 4: and Snoop on the football league too.

617
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: Man.

618
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 4: I've seen it on Instagram. Man, it's looking like something.

619
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 4: It's amazing for the youth.

620
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: Man, Cuffs, I appreciate you. Man.

621
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 5: Last last night was our first week going brou The

622
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 5: turnout was crazy, and so I'm looking forward to it.

623
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: Man. It should be fun.

624
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 4: Keep the kids outside, that's my model. Keep the kids outside.

625
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 4: Kids don't be outside no more, man, keep them outside.

626
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: That's the kid a different type of outside because the

627
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: kids outside these days, they're doing things differently outside.

628
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we out there though, we were out there

629
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 5: with them. No Cuffs is myself. Snoop is sending some

630
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 5: people out there just to interact with the kids. It's

631
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 5: gonna be It's gonna be a good thing for the

632
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 5: communities out here, man. And that's what we're trying to do.

633
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 5: Impact the community anyway we can. What's the website? What's

634
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 5: the website? TJ Snooping? Who's Flag Football League? It's in

635
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 5: if you follow me on Instagram, it's in my bio.

636
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 5: It's right there. But it's the Snoop and who'sh Flag

637
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 5: Football League?

638
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: Man, y'all make sure y'all support that. Make sure you

639
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: support the some dude show up on Game Network. That's Cuffs.

640
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: The legend he is a bad man with jamm and

641
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: when it comes down to talking sports boy, I'll tell

642
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: you what and he kills it on the basketball. We

643
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on, bro. Uh. We're gonna take a

644
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Speaker 2: We're gonna wrap the show up on the other side

651
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Speaker 2: of it. Matthew Judah. He had some nice things to

652
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Speaker 2: say about his coach and the energy that's in uh

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Speaker 2: well even as QB as well uh in New England.

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Speaker 2: a legend tj your boy Matt jeu Don, who I

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Speaker 2: think is nice on that defense. By the way, he

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Speaker 2: had some interesting things to say about his quarterback. Let's

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Speaker 2: take a listen. I'm interested to get your h your

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Speaker 2: opinion on it.

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Speaker 9: To close out the show, when Mac was comfortable and

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Speaker 9: he had a good system, he put he produced in,

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Speaker 9: he put up numbers and when you said we scored

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Speaker 9: well forty five to seven against Living yeah, Mac Jones

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Speaker 9: led that team and so we know he can do it.

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Speaker 2: You know he can do it.

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Speaker 3: He does.

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Speaker 9: He has to finest confidence his stride and get a

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Speaker 9: rhythm on. It's gonna be difficult. It is fourth seed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, four oh season, four years I had. I had

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Speaker 2: five head coaches and four seasons at one point. It's

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Speaker 2: hard to have a coaching change. I'm sure it's super

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Speaker 2: hard to have a position coach change and to have

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Speaker 2: so much pressure on you. What's your take on Mac Jones.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious.

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Speaker 5: As we said earlier, and Judon just said it, he

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Speaker 5: has to finest confidence.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: Confidence is very important. When Mac Jones was a rookie,

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Speaker 5: everybody said, Wow, this kid is playing well. Josh McDaniels

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Speaker 5: is doing a really good job. And then Josh McDaniels

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Speaker 5: leeds take a head coaching job with the Las Vegas Raiders,

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Speaker 5: and Bill Belichick said.

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Speaker 2: Hm, I'm smarter than everybody.

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Speaker 5: Let me name a defensive guy, the OC, a special

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Speaker 5: teams guy, co OC Like, Yeah, let's see how that works.

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Speaker 5: That was the beginning of the end for Mac Jones.

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Speaker 5: When he named Patricia and Joe Judge's call offensive coordinators,

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Speaker 5: they in essence ruined them the lack of confidence that

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Speaker 5: they showed and when I say they, Bill Belichick and

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Speaker 5: mac Jones continue to chip away at his psyche and

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Speaker 5: his confidence. And so now he finally he finally had

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Speaker 5: a real offensive coordinator again and Bill O'Brien. But many

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Speaker 5: will say who is he throwing the ball to? What

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Speaker 5: weapons does he have? And then you have the musical chairs,

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Speaker 5: the quarterback position. So for mac Jones, first and foremost,

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Speaker 5: he needs to get back that self belief, that confidence,

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Speaker 5: that swagger that he can get it done. Now, it

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Speaker 5: helps when one of your better defensive players, probably your

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Speaker 5: best defensive player in Judon, is publicly saying we believe

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Speaker 5: in him, We've seen him get it done, and so

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Speaker 5: now it's for mac Jones to believe in himself and

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Speaker 5: realize he has been able to play at a high level.

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Speaker 5: Draw Mayo understands that part of it, and if he

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Speaker 5: can instill that confidence in him, you never know what

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Speaker 5: can happen. But again, man, it's a when you're at

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Speaker 5: the bottom and you're looking.

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Speaker 2: Up to the top.

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Speaker 5: It seems like you have so far to go, but

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Speaker 5: you got to stand up and start going before you

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Speaker 5: can get to the top.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that this is the decision that Draw

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Speaker 2: Mayo should make as a rookie head coach stand with

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Speaker 2: mac Jones. No, but I said, I'd say no, Oh no,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't just no, but no.

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Speaker 5: If you're the Patriots, you have the third pick. So

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Speaker 5: in that censure, you're gonna choose whom the other two

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Speaker 5: people perceive to be the top two quarterbacks. And now

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Speaker 5: you're taking the third quarterback. Are you comfortable with that?

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Speaker 5: The Patriots need a lot of help. Do you trade

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Speaker 5: down and accumulate draft picks? And to me, that's if

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Speaker 5: I'm the Patriots, that's where I go. I'm trying to

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Speaker 5: get to first this year, to first next year, maybe

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Speaker 5: a second next year, and now let's see where we

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Speaker 5: are in about three to four years. Because you need

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Speaker 5: to accumulate draft picks. You need more talent. It's not

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Speaker 5: just a quarterback thing. You need talent on that roster.

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Speaker 5: Well that's sad, because then what direction do you go.

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Speaker 5: It seems like if they need more talent and they're

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Speaker 5: gonna stick with mac Jones, then that's a foregone conclusion.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna fall on his face. Further More, if you

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Speaker 2: bring in a new guy, you bring in Russ, he's

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Speaker 2: a bus. If you bring in you trade for uh

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Speaker 2: for justin fields that would seemingly be at It doesn't

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Speaker 2: seem like it's a winning situation to walk into in

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Speaker 2: New England right now.

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Speaker 5: Everything seems that way when when you're at the bottom

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Speaker 5: that it really does. All of it takes a player

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Speaker 5: or two, a player to a mindset and things can

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Speaker 5: change very quickly. It really can in the National Football League.

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Speaker 5: But if you don't have a quarterback, it may.

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Speaker 2: A lot longer, a lot longer.

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Speaker 5: You you really need a quarterback, but you need pieces

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Speaker 5: around that quarterback. The quarterback is the engine, but you

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Speaker 5: need pieces around that quarterback. And if you don't have that,

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Speaker 5: it doesn't matter what quarterback you have.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think Gerron Mao is in a tough situation

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Speaker 2: and we'll see how that all plays out. We hope

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