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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Ninian.

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Speaker 2: The card doctor phone numbers eight five, five five six

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Speaker 2: zero nine nine zero zero. Let's go over and talk

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Speaker 2: to Clifford in Long Island. Clifford, you're on with the

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Speaker 2: card docker, Sir, how can I help?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Iron, how are you help me the past?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 4: I was wondering if I can ask you two quick questions. Sure,

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Speaker 4: my two thousand and three camera, go ahead. The first

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Speaker 4: question is I I have like an exhaust leak, and

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Speaker 4: I thought it was like a doughnut between you know, flange,

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Speaker 4: but I looked underneath and I think it's it's part

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Speaker 4: of a flex pipe.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Typically, typically it's a flex coupling that goes bad.

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Speaker 4: Now, how is that something that I can replace? Is

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Speaker 4: it something I'm gonna need torches?

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Speaker 2: And no, you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna do that

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Speaker 2: one of two ways you're gonna replace the pipe, which

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Speaker 2: it depending upon what version of Toyota Camry. This is

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Speaker 2: what flavor of emission controls. It's gonna have a catalytic

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Speaker 2: converter built into it, possibly, and you're going to have

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Speaker 2: to replace that pipe with the cat which can be expensive.

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Speaker 1: It'll be in the you know nine to twelve hundred

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Speaker 2: Now, you may find an exhaust shop somebody that's set

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Speaker 2: up with torches and they have flex couplings that'll fit

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Speaker 2: various diameter pipes. Can weld one in just the coupling itself.

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Speaker 2: The question you've got to ask yourself on a thirteen

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Speaker 2: do you want to go through that or do you

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Speaker 2: want to just replace the cat now and get it

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Speaker 2: over with. And I'm not saying the cat's going to

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Speaker 2: go bad tomorrow. They typically have a life span of

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ten one hundred and thirty thousand miles,

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Speaker 2: depending upon how they've been maintained. But you've got to

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Speaker 2: think somewhere in the next two years you'll probably end

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Speaker 2: up putting a cat on this anyway, So you know,

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Speaker 2: it becomes a coin to us there from a budget perspective,

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Speaker 2: how you want to approach it. So, but that's not

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Speaker 2: something you the average you know individual, unless you can weld,

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Speaker 2: you know, torches, you know, saws, alls, et cetera, can

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Speaker 2: kind of repair.

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Speaker 1: Okay, second question, the.

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Speaker 4: Second one is, again it's got eighty five thousand miles

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Speaker 4: on it, and I noticed when the cost it's a

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Speaker 4: couple of days. I started up and smoke, you know,

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Speaker 4: like burnt oil comes out of the tailpipe. I think

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Speaker 4: it's probably vowel seals, right, because it's it's sitting, you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a twelve year old car, right is?

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Speaker 4: And they recommend five to thirty oil?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: Can I go to a heavyweight oil?

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Speaker 1: I would go to I would stay.

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Speaker 2: Do you have five thirty in it now, Cliff, yes,

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Speaker 2: then you're probably right where you want to be. The

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Speaker 2: fact is that a lot of vehicles in the last

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Speaker 2: fifteen years, the days of going to a heavier viscosity

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Speaker 2: oil doesn't necessarily apply anymore. You can try it, I

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Speaker 2: doubt that it's going to work. The rationale is that

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Speaker 2: the tension on rings oil, oil control among them being

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Speaker 2: the most important. The tension on the rings themselves has

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Speaker 2: been lowered to the point that they're trying to get

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Speaker 2: more performance, more fuel economy, less drag, that type of

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Speaker 2: thing that engines today, and a lot of vehicles are

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Speaker 2: having problems with oil control. I think I got an

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Speaker 2: I believe you're correct. It is most likely valve stem seals.

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Speaker 2: That is the most common point of failure.

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Speaker 1: Now to that.

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Speaker 2: Point, if it is burning oil. Now the question you've

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Speaker 2: got to ask yourself go back to the first question,

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Speaker 2: the exhaust flex pipe. Do we want to just repair

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Speaker 1: Because that oil has now.

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Speaker 2: Coated the cat and I'm sure about let's see if

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Speaker 2: Murphy's law is still ringing true in the land. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure about three weeks after you get done welding in

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Speaker 2: that flex pipe coupling, the P zero four twenty is

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Speaker 2: gonna pop up on the check engine light and you're

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Speaker 2: gonna go, gee, I should have replaced the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a it's a question of longevity, listen.

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Speaker 2: I think the couple of questions you've got to ask

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Speaker 2: at least, then if you can control the oil, then

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Speaker 2: put the catalytic converter on it and then plan to

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Speaker 2: drive the car another four to six years. Because I

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Speaker 2: think at this stage and age of it's life. It's

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Speaker 2: I it's a tough spot to be in. The problem

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Speaker 2: is the cars last so long today we think of

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Speaker 2: them as new. Right, you bought this car new, Cliff.

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Speaker 4: Actually it was my mom's call.

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Speaker 2: Yet Okay, so you know mom bought this car new.

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Speaker 2: Now it's yours, and I'm sure maybe there's a little

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Speaker 2: sentimental attachment to it, but you know it's listen, my

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Speaker 2: oh Chevy plow truck to me's a new truck.

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Speaker 1: It's it's eight years old.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about it this week in the shop.

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Speaker 2: It's got twenty five thousand miles on it and it's

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Speaker 2: taking a beating from the rust. You know, it's creating

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Speaker 2: russ from the salt, and it's always out in the weather.

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Speaker 2: Gd you replace the truck or start replacing parts, and

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Speaker 2: you know it's not new anymore.

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Speaker 1: It's eight years old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know that's the perspective, by the way, Cliff,

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Speaker 2: Just so that you know, starting next week we're going

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Speaker 2: to be back live in the New York market WRCR

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Speaker 2: and you can get us on AM seventeen hundred Saturdays

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Speaker 2: two to four, so you'll be able to pick up

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Speaker 2: the show live again.

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Speaker 1: No more podcasting for you, all right, So.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to it, all right, Cliff, thank you

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Speaker 4: for your help.

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Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. Good luck to you, very good.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. Yeah, that's you know.

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Speaker 2: The reason he sees the blue smoke is because when

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Speaker 2: you first start the car, the catalytic converter isn't lit off,

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Speaker 2: and once the cat builds up some heat and lights off,

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Speaker 2: it can then put the oil as it passes through

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Speaker 2: through a chemical change and oxidize it down and do

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Speaker 2: amount of smoke that comes out the pipe. So you know,

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Speaker 2: to repair that, you're repairing something that's broken. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's not that simple of a question with a very

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Speaker 2: simple answer. So speaking of answers, and let's see if

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Speaker 2: over and talk to Charles from Alpine, New Jersey, with

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Speaker 2: some questions about battery.

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Speaker 1: As to Charles, you're out with the cart.

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Speaker 5: Yes, a very simple question, and I'm sure you're going

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Speaker 5: to be able to handle it in. Incidentally, you gave

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Speaker 5: right direction, I should say some years ago. Anyway, about

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Speaker 5: three years ago, I purchased ten garden tractor sized batteries.

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Speaker 5: They were empty, they never had acid in them, right,

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Speaker 5: and so I just developed the need for them. So

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Speaker 5: I put the acid in one of them and charged it.

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Speaker 5: They went up. I took it up to let's say

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Speaker 5: the better part of two weeks. But I felt that

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Speaker 5: it just wasn't giving me enough for my use, and

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Speaker 5: I wondered. I put battery acid in it that I

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Speaker 5: bought also about ten years ago, and I wondered, if

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Speaker 5: battery acid has a shelf life that makes it a

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Speaker 2: Yes, battery acid does have a shelf life. You know,

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Speaker 2: was like the batteries two years old, I would tell

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Speaker 2: you you're fine. You'll typically see three to five years

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Speaker 1: Electrolytes start to say, operate and fall out of their togetherness.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: The longer they're married, they're togetherness kind of falls apart,

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Speaker 2: I guess is maybe a safe way to put it. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, the best thing you could try is as

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Speaker 2: a science experiment. I don't know the exact number. I'm

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Speaker 2: not a chemist as to when acid falls apart, but

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Speaker 2: I do remember from my days in the oda part store,

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Speaker 2: any acid that was older than four years and this

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Speaker 2: goes back thirty years ago, thirty five years ago, you know,

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Speaker 2: would be sent back to the manufacturer for disposal. So

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Speaker 2: I've always kept in the back of my head three

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Speaker 2: to five years as battery acid shelf life. You could

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Speaker 2: just go out and purchase some fresh acid, put.

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Speaker 1: It in the battery.

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Speaker 2: If the battery has never had liquid in it, then

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Speaker 2: theoretically it's you know, it's had some shelf deterioration, but

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Speaker 2: it's not anything inside, and the battery should work just

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Speaker 2: fine as the day it was manufactured.

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Speaker 1: It just needs fresh acid. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 5: Hoping for Yeah. I talked to a number of people,

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Speaker 5: including people that make batteries and no, that'll last forever,

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Speaker 1: About it, And I disagree.

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Speaker 2: Everything has a shelf life, you know, even all chemicals,

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Speaker 2: even motor oil. People call all the time, and you

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Speaker 2: number two, you know you have motoroil on the shelf

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Speaker 2: from five years ago. It's a different API and s

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Speaker 2: a E rating and it doesn't necessarily meet the newer vehicle,

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Speaker 2: you know. So a lot of these things can't be

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Speaker 2: can't be stockpiled like that. So but you know, try

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Speaker 2: to bet that you'll come out okay, all right.

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Speaker 5: Charles, thank you very much. I appreciate you're very welcome.

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Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. You take good care. A five

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Speaker 2: go over and talk to Scott Everett, Pennsylvania, ninet nine

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Speaker 2: Jeep Cherokee and some questions.

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Speaker 1: Scott, welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help?

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Speaker 3: Goodness?

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Speaker 6: And it's a true pleasure to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. What can I do for you?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 6: I've currently or recently purchased a nineteen ninety nine Jeep

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Speaker 6: Cherokee Sport Okay, plain old Cherokee. It has a couple

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Speaker 6: issues that go along with it, but it's got a

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Speaker 6: really good drive some russ right, I have an opportunity

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Speaker 6: to purchase it's a nineteen ninety seven Jeep Cherokee, But

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Speaker 6: various people have told me that there's differences between the

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Speaker 6: drive training and other small differences that would make it

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Speaker 6: difficult to do the swap to make one jeep out

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Speaker 1: What are you looking to swap? Like? What's missing from one?

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Speaker 1: Are the engines the same? Scott?

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Speaker 2: Just how similar or does similar vehicles other than model

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Speaker 6: They're pretty similar. Both of them are four to zero

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Speaker 6: The one ninety seven has a blown up motor. It's

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Speaker 6: in the ninety nine is excellent, low mileage, starts in

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Speaker 1: Okay, and what do you look at it? What are

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Speaker 1: you looking to swap?

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Speaker 6: Good?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what are you looking to swap?

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Speaker 6: I'm looking to swap the engine, the four wheel drives,

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Speaker 6: and probably the transfer case out of the ninety nine

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Speaker 6: into the ninety seven. Well, it's various interior parts, which

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Speaker 6: I'm not really concerned about. I was just worried. I

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Speaker 2: What I would do is I would take the VIN

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Speaker 1: And it's difficult. You know.

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Speaker 2: Back in the day when dirt was invented and I

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Speaker 2: So what I would do in this case, since you've

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Speaker 2: I would take the VN off the ninety seven, take

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Speaker 2: does this have a chance. As far as the transfer

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Speaker 1: Or you can go look online. There's a couple of

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Speaker 2: If you wanted to type in OH, type in ninety

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Speaker 2: list of one hundred websites that are selling used parts online.

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Speaker 2: Salvage yards. They'll give you an interchange guide there. You

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Speaker 6: I think great idea. You can't buy all the various

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Speaker 2: And I think what you're trying to do will work.

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Speaker 2: four to oh, the basic four liter engine, I don't

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Speaker 1: Some of the bolt on components.

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Speaker 2: And I would also be concerned about is the flywheel

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Speaker 1: Beyond that?

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Speaker 2: And the reason I say that is engine balance and

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Speaker 2: the crank censor. But beyond beyond that, Scott, I think

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Speaker 2: it's the same, puppy, And I think, yeah, I kind

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Speaker 2: of think with a little bit of tweaking, I think

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Speaker 2: that's gonna I think that's gonna work. So try that

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Speaker 2: if you need me during the week. The clock's gonna

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Speaker 2: take me. If you need me during the week, Ron

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Speaker 2: at cardoctorshow dot com, and I'll be glad to assist

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Speaker 2: you any which way I can. Thanks for the call, Scott,

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Speaker 2: I appreciated eight five five five six zero nine nine

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Speaker 2: zero zero. The car Doctor's coming back right after this.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, boy. You know what my photo is about?

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Speaker 2: This past hour like this? Where'd this hour go? Let's

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Speaker 2: all out real quick, Let's go over and grab one

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Speaker 2: more call Austin, Harworth, New Jersey, ninety eight.

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Speaker 1: More Kay, Austin, you're on with the car doctor. How

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Hi Ron Yeah ninety eight Monitary grandmar Quis eighty three

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Speaker 3: thousand miles and intermittent electrical problems started about a month ago.

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Speaker 3: I was in a garage in Manhattan for about eight hours, parked,

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Speaker 3: came back completely dead, managed to get it jump started,

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Speaker 3: put a new battery in. At that point it was

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Speaker 3: fine for about two weeks. Same thing happened, same garage,

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Speaker 3: got it to my mechanic, who said that was a

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Speaker 3: problem with the alternator. Okay, plaice the alternator. Last time,

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Speaker 3: they'd have been running fine, completely dead, And at this

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Speaker 3: point you turn the two and there isn't even.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's got a really harsh battery drain. Right, So

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Speaker 2: just a couple of things, just some things to remember

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Speaker 2: because the clock will grab me. Is it blowing any fuses?

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Speaker 2: Fuse thirteen, fuse four, So fuses are all good?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: The two most common points of battery drain three. Actually

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Speaker 2: there's three common areas. They have issues around the steering

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Speaker 2: under recall from Ford and you may have gotten a letter.

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Speaker 2: You should probably take the ven go down to the

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Speaker 1: Are there any open recails on that vehicle? Because if

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if this car is equipped, if it's equipped with

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Speaker 2: the first thing I would go looking for. That's number

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Speaker 2: one one, number two, Number three, does this car have

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Speaker 2: keyless entry?

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Speaker 3: No, it has the buttons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the buttons, It has the keyless entry pads. You'll

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Speaker 2: be amazed. It'll create enough of a drain. What happens

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Speaker 2: and it keeps the security monitor alive. It thinks somebody

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Speaker 2: the battery down. So those are a known problem. So

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Speaker 2: those three areas need to be looked at. And obviously

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Speaker 2: you know the old standby, put an am meter in

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Speaker 2: series and start to pull fuses one by one.

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Speaker 1: Where's the drain, where's the drain? Go away? And then

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Speaker 1: at least you know what circuit you're attacking.

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Speaker 2: I would go back to your mechanic and kind of

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Speaker 2: ask them why do we go for an alternator or

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Speaker 2: was it not charging? But you know, diagnosis has to

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Speaker 2: be performed before we start changing any more parts. Austin,

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Speaker 2: good luck to you. I'm here if you need me.

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Speaker 2: I'm running ady in the car doctor. See you next week,

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Speaker 2: New York. Remember the mechanics aren't expended if they're priceless.

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Speaker 1: See you

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Speaker 2: Sh