WEBVTT - Black Music Month: Wayne Brady Part 2 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.040 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:07.080 What if y'all is on PayPal from Quest Love Supre 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:09.680 Last week, we gave you Wayne Brady Part one. In 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:12.040 that Wayne spoke about morning routines and why making the 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.760 bet is important. He talked about favorite cereals and candy, 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.000 and even remembered a bully from his past. It's an 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.040 amazing episode and you absolutely need to check it out 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:21.520 of the cabin if you have well done, because here's 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:25.079 part two. My friend Wayne Brady, Questlove, Fonte, Sugar Steve 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:27.880 and myself live in the studio New York City enjoint. 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.560 This is actually, I think a good time to pivot 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:44.280 into this question aside question which was so my version 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:47.160 of this story was when I was a staff member 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:48.200 of The Chappelle Show. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.199 Sorry to meaning sorry sorry sound yeah, because I want 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:53.760 to hear here, what's your version is? 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.920 Okay, So I'm a staff member of Chappelle. I wouldn't 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:58.720 go on location with those guys. I did all the 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.600 music for season two and so the roots just happened 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.479 to be in La at the time when we were 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:10.360 shooting a lot of the La Chappelle things. And what 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:14.000 you have to understand is that most shows are like 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:18.000 planned week in events. They have a writing staff. The 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:22.480 genius of season two was the fact that Neil Brennan 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:26.480 and Dave Chappelle were pretty much just flying off the 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:31.520 seat of their pants, knowing that on Thursday night they 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.920 have to turn in that tape the comedy Really you're 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:38.400 supposed to turn in like the Tuesday before, like days before. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.399 I mean there would be times where like maybe a 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.480 half hour before the show's on the air, like the 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:49.560 Sesame Street. Oh yeah, Q tip thing, that's new thing. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.200 I happen to know that they finished the edit maybe 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:57.840 a half hour before airtime. Yeah, before airtime, Like Comedy 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.640 Central has to like approve that were standing like we 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.440 went down to the wire. So I do know that 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:09.240 we had went out to the four seasons because we 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:12.240 wanted to get our Sino to do the whole cheese things. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.600 Why don't you tell me the cheese was good, right, 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.000 that whole thing, and also got uh Anthony Anderson to 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:24.440 do the Ashy Larry you remember the dream? Yeah, what 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:29.560 I remember was we have met Anthony Ajai in the 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:34.480 hotel lobby. Anthony gi the bar wash. He's also the 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.400 father Maya Rudolph's Fire and Bridesmaids, and he's legendary comic. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:45.960 We had spent so much time talking to him and 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.560 our Senio was there like just comedian war stories from 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.360 the seventies or whatever. That I had to go so 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.000 I can go to the airport. So what Neil will 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:58.120 tell me when I landed? He's like, dude, we just 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:02.120 created a masterpiece. Like the way they were describing how 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.880 the night was was like they had made Purple Rain 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:09.640 and Thriller at once. And I'm thinking, like, wait, from 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:14.160 the whole from that sketch. He says, no, man, He's like, 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.600 so when you were leaving and checking out at the 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.160 last minute, guess who we saw in the lobby. I 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.560 was like, who it's a dog. We saw Wayne Brady 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.800 and I said, oh my god, what happened? Because I 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.959 instantly went back mooney on, I'm what I'm expecting. This 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:30.920 is gonna be like beef from Broccoli. I said, well 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:33.079 went down? What went down? He says, no, man, we 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:37.400 shot something, And so I'm under the belief that it 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:39.680 was off the cuff. You just happened to be in 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:40.200 the lobby. 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:42.440 You and Dave. 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:46.080 Had a miacopa kind of understanding moment thing and then 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:47.320 it was like, so what are you doing? Do you 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.640 want to shoot something? And it was very off the cuff, 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.320 and I was not prepared for any of. 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.560 Those things like oh no, no, no, no, no no. 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:57.240 It was so much different for you. 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:58.760 All right, so what's your version of it? 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.440 Well, well, my version is is, well, just going back 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.760 to when the sketch aired, and I'll do it really, 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.680 really fast. And this isn't me complaining because I've said 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.080 this before, like on the Breakfast Club, and there's always 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.200 an asshole in the comments like like, well you shouldn't 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.880 the reason that the sketch bothered me. And I'll just 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.240 say it in that hill. Jokes are jokes. I do 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:19.000 comedy everything jokes. A joke's fine. I just happened to 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:20.880 come from a very very particular place, and you can't 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.360 tell me what I can and can't feel. I feel 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.040 Paul Mooney I worshiped at the shrine of Paul Mooney. 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.599 I never said that Paul Mooney wasn't funny or Paul 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:33.240 Moodey wasn't a genius and a writer. I love Paul Mooney, 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.760 I love Dave, so imagine my shock. I'm sitting at home, 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.680 I'm getting my barber. Came over to my spot. He's 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.479 doing Da Da Da Da, and the Chappelle shows on. 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.120 I'm excited. I was like, okay, show shot, we could 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.159 get through the whole thing. And then and then boom. 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:57.040 Negro was like Wayne Brady looked like him. I went, oh, oh, okay. 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.200 I didn't laugh at it, not because I was like, 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.359 I'm above being made fun of. If your joke is funny, 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.640 please make fun of me. That's what we do. But 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.400 to me, and now because you saw me talk to 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.719 my bullies. Oh, also Kendra. 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:18.719 And Nicole and Nicole come on now it's as Adams Jones, 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:19.960 Johnson Harris. 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.760 Race has always been a subject that has played because 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:25.560 what does it mean to be black? You know, the 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.400 kid that grew up watching certain things, doing certain things, 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.400 liking certain things that have died, so those things for 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:32.719 form you. 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:34.560 So I've always had that in the back of my 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.000 mind as a as a thing. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.280 So when I see that, I'm like, the joke isn't 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:42.320 funny to me, It doesn't even scan because you're now 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:47.719 making fun of Brian Gumbel, who like, say what you 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:51.320 want to say. But Brian gumble, this incredibly successful man 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.240 in his own right doing this thing. So now you're 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.039 gonna use me to take down him or him to 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.320 meet And then that means that I'm not black enough? 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.919 And so does that mean that one of my comedic heroes, 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.000 Dave Chappelle, who I've rocked with since Robin Hood men 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.200 in tights and watching him at evenings at the Improv. 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.480 Before he blew up. This dude really knows who I am. 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.680 Oh, that's awesome, but nothing gonna shit on me and 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:13.719 Paul Mooney, who I love. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.679 He doesn't think I'm black enough. That's really wow. 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.880 That shakes, which is why Wayne doesn't go out and 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.280 talk to people because I don't want to deal with 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.320 that shit sometimes. So I was already in my feelings 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.479 about it from a race place and just from a 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:29.960 joke point. I didn't feel that it was a good joke. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.680 I thought it was too easy, so blah blah blah 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:38.000 blah blah. So fuck those guys immediately, and I'm like, 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.280 I don't give sex second and third chances. I am 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:43.760 a I'm a very petty, angry person inside sometimes when 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:45.680 it comes to certain things. So I was already like, well, 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.400 I guess I can watch a Chappelle's show click. I 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.400 can't enjoy the genius that is Dave Chappelle. Fast forward 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.000 to I forget what the show was. It was an 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.680 award show. It might have been the Hoodies, Steve Harvey's 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:03.280 Hoodies or something. But don hell was in the lobby bar. 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.359 We were in the bar Donelle's with somebody else and 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.880 I recognize him immediately because I like the show. Oh 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:16.800 it's it's ashy laire, but you gonna drink my drink. 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:23.640 He comes over so wonderful and gracious. Wayne, Hey, I'm Donelle. 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:28.679 I play Actually I know who you are. I've seen 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:33.119 your little playlids all right, just just through the energy. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.040 And he was so sweet and Wayne blah blah blah. 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.520 I said, oh, yeah, that's great. I love the show 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.880 up until that whack ass joke by Paul Mooney blah 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.520 da da da da. But thanks. He goes, Oh my god, 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.000 I mean we you know, we have love for you. 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.680 I was like, I was like, to be honest, I 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.880 don't know. And I have to preface it, I had 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:55.640 been drinking. I had been drinking, so I was like, really, 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.280 was that how you love me? Black man? Is that 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.960 really so on about my day cut to the next day. 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:04.680 This is how fast the shit did happen. So I 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:06.440 don't know the timeline that you're talking about in terms 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.800 of when you came out to LA, but it happened where. 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.480 Well, I was at the fourth season Hotel, so. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.320 Okay, so that might have been so so whenever I 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.600 saw him. Then the next day I was doing my 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:20.760 talk show. I get my assistant comes as I'm in 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:21.440 the writer's room. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:25.400 Wait wait, you got a phone call? Who take Chappelle? 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.480 I was like, why no, you're lying take Shamlle? 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:33.320 Okay, Hello, hey man, it's Dave. 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:34.000 Oh man. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.680 It just so sweet as like, look, I didn't write 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:38.120 that joke. 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:39.800 Mooney came up with it. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.360 I really didn't like the shit either, but you know, 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.320 I like the character and da da da, No offense 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.720 was meant now the fact that and now we live 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.480 in a day and age, no one's going to backtrack 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.560 on a joke for folks like I said what I said, 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.679 and I said it like like I said, Dave was 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.679 one of my guy He's one of my heroes. So 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.160 that itself, we could have just stopped it there. It 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.560 couldn't have gone any for I was like, thank you, 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:05.000 and I mean you didn't. Thanks, It's fine, it's cool. 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:06.880 He goes, Hey, would you ever want to be on 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.439 the show? Said, are you kidding me? It would be 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.840 a dream of it. Well, then, what are you doing 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.920 doing this weekend? Or if this was a Friday or something. 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.280 So I flew out. I said, I'll come to New 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.520 York immediately. Great, I'm gonna puts you in touch with 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.280 Neil and you guys decide what we're gonna do, and 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:23.000 we're gonna do something great. 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.800 But great, thanks Dave. I was on cloud nine. 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.199 So I immediately started thinking of ideas and this is 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.720 where it is so cool. So I so I'm writing 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.400 stuff on the plane. Neil had already worked out some stuff. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.240 So when I get to New York, it all happens 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.480 like this. I get off the plane, we go to 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.800 where you guys shot a think in Brooklyn or someplace whatever. 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:42.840 We get up. As soon as soon as I get in, 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.600 I go Neil's waiting for me. He's like, so, what 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.120 do you want to do? Blah blah blah blah. He goes, 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:51.480 We've got this idea of like doing this training day 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.160 thing because you know, like you do your talk show. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.280 Oh and at this time, this is when I was 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.520 leaving my talk show because I found out that because 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.160 I told somebody off at Disney that they that they 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.760 threatened me and said, uh said, oh, you know, if 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.040 you don't do this particular thing, we always can find 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:07.200 someone to do your show. And I said, oh, if 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.160 you can find another Wayne Brady to do the Wayne 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:10.600 Brady Show, please be my guest. 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:11.160 I come back in. 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.320 Tony Danzel's name is in the papers, but that's cool. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.199 I was like, great, I'm out. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:16.880 Of this Banddamn questions. 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.560 I'm handling all the black people because they they they 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:22.920 had a band, ate not a band, because they were 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.000 gonna say we never said that. Certain guests that I'd 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:26.559 bring up, they'd go, oh, no, you can't do that, 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.720 bla blah blah blah blah blah blah. So I was like, really, 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.560 I had Missy Elliott bust the rhymes if you were 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.000 black and my favorite rapper, you were on that show 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.440 you show at that time. I was so this was great. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:38.360 I was like yes, So in my mind I was like, 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.080 we need to do something that will burn burn the 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.319 house down. Fuck it, let's go So Neil's idea was 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.440 the training day thing, and I said, well, if we're 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:51.119 doing training day where I'm showing Dave through the neighborhood 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:53.360 and doing shit, then we really need to lean into 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.640 the fact of when folks are like, oh, Wayne, I 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:57.719 love you because I see your talk show where you're 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.200 this you're everybody's favorite black guy. 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:00.000 Blah blah blah blah. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:01.960 I said, I want to do a thing where a 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.520 cop stops me and he started singing my jingle and 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.800 I wrote that and then I'm gonna go but be 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:08.520 behind him and I'm gonna kill him, and. 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:13.600 That will freak and that'll freak out Dave. 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:15.760 And I want a microphone to come down and go great, 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:17.920 well let's do that and then we'll do the other 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.200 thing with an ATM and you'll get your money. So like, 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.439 we'll follow the beats. I said, great, So we came 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.800 up with it. So we had these two ideas and 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:28.480 mushed them together. We shot it all night. We wrapped 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.000 like six in the morning because I had to get 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.679 back on a plane to go back to shoot. And 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:36.960 then I get a call like Monday. He's like, dude, 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.480 this is amazing. You aren't gonna be ready. I think 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:45.600 we I think we've made history. Yes, and I knew it, 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:47.560 like not often are you in the middle of something, 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.320 But I knew it as we're doing it because there 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:54.000 was such desparate worlds right of Dave and this and me, 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.320 especially of that time, of what folks thought of me 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.520 and the gigs I was doing. It's like, well, wow, 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.560 does that all fit together? And we weren't doing a sketch. 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.000 In my mind, I was like, no, I'm really doing 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.120 this shit because I'm also showing you what I do 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.440 as an actor. It's like, we're really doing this. And 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.960 the way that he shot it, it was a beautiful 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:12.959 thing that came together. And I knew that we made 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:13.640 TV history. 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:17.560 I knew it, and I'm telling you this, like Rick James, nia, 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:22.280 we have a problem, right, Rick James and Prince they 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.839 were excited about but we were more excited about the 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.320 scripts because we had the scripts way before they were shot. 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:32.319 But I do remember up until that point they were 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:36.000 really excited about the racial draft. But the way they 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:41.080 were talking about how quickly this thing came together and 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:47.559 how and I was I was disappointed because I couldn't add. 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:48.040 Music to it. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:49.680 Like I was said, all right, so what am I 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.760 gonna do? What am I gonna do? They're like, it's 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.400 done already, man, you just you wait till it comes 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.480 on and literally okay. So I mean that was that 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.640 was the beginning of what we call like the viral face. 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:04.920 How did you're our's perception of you or reaction? How 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:06.640 did that change after that episode? 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:10.520 It was instantaneous because at that point, you know, the 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:14.400 Chappelle Show was everywhere all the time. It was on 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:18.520 a loop, so everywhere you went, and being on tour 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.520 and going you know, to very various cities, I could 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.320 see the reactions like if and right after that it 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.199 was on tour, you know, like I was in Philly 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:30.160 and New York and Atlanta and Chicago and Detroit, so 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:35.440 I got to see firsthand black reaction to the sketch. Now, 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.200 the thing is that I never wanted the narrative to 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.840 be like all black people voted unanimously that Wayne Brady 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.880 was corny or whatever, because that was not the case. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.720 More black people rocked with me than not. It was. 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.200 It was some fine, you couldn't say what you wanted to, 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.199 But I did notice as soon as that sketch hit. 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.920 This is the thing that I got, which I loathed 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.120 to this day, but I know where it comes from. 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:01.760 When like a particular cat comes up. 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:08.520 Yo, Wayne, Nigga, that's that, dude, I'm gonna slap me 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:08.960 a hole. 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:10.360 It's like, no, no, man. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:16.160 It's actually, it's actually, it's actually, it's actually choko. That's 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.400 what I meant. That's what I meant. I gotta tell 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:20.840 you something. I gotta tell you something. I didn't fuck 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:21.480 with you before. 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:21.800 I didn't. 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.480 I didn't with all honest I didn't fuck with you before. 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.160 I was like, well, thanks for telling me you're in 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.800 the thoughts I did. Really you didn't digest my okay, fine. 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:35.960 But now now now, nigga, now, now hug me now, 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.080 man now, And then I'm like, well, thank you. 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.480 But the funny thing is, oh, so you love me now? 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:47.480 Because I had hoes, made Dave take drugs, and it 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:51.600 was yeah, I get I get it, I get it. 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:53.480 But the thing that I loved the most about it 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.000 is whatever your reaction and whatever you felt, and I 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.840 feel it to this day. It's a classic sketch. It's 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.880 in the Museum of Telling Vision History. I'd love Dave 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.240 and I thank Dave, and I thank Neil for and 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:08.240 I thank Donnelle for coming up to me because I 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.400 got a chance to do something that was so dope, 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.320 and I see the effects of it today that people 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.440 got to see because I was doing a Disney talk show, 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.400 I was doing an a ABC talk show, I was 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.920 on a Who's Line at night. I was doing those things. Now, 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.240 the people that followed my act, that saw me in 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:26.280 the comedy clubs and theaters, they knew that it's kind 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.240 of like the Bob Saget thing. My act is my acting. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.560 And I tell you, tell folks, just because you watched 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.080 whose Line or your kid likes Sophia the First, don't 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.040 bring your kids to my show because it's not that 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:37.960 kind of show. 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:39.080 So it's not that. 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:41.640 So I felt that that began a shift where folks 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:43.920 to your point earlier, where folks say that they really 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:45.840 don't know me, they know the things that I do. 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.040 I feel that was a step in people going Okay, 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.680 I guess there's more to the person than I thought. 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.640 And if it takes an event like that to make 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.800 you open your mind, then cool. I don't care where 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:57.240 it comes from. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:02.200 Azanza comes, well, then I'll ask you something I thought. 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.320 We're on our way to being best friends. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.960 We started with we wanted to be friends friends is 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:16.760 so exciting, Yes, sir, And this is an objective question, 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:18.520 so I don't know if I can get a definitive answer. 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:23.600 Of course, is the grass greener on the other side? 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:28.720 Well, you know, I would not know still because and 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.920 this is a larger conversation for a thing. I I 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:35.080 have issues where I still feel where now it's mostly 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:41.480 oddly enough, ironically it's white Hollywood and white studio exects. 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.200 And I don't even say agents that I've had in 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.600 the past and people because black is black to me. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.240 We are not a monolith. That's what Whiz is about. 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:55.160 Come see the Whiz until June tenth, so until no, no, 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:56.640 but you got a seed in general, but just know 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:57.000 that story. 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.520 So black is all thesewed beautiful things. 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.800 But the problem is that when we call each other 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:03.320 out and we go, oh, you're not black of this 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.560 or your experiences in this, there are people on the 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.480 other side listening, like studio execs and like other people 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.080 that they're oh, so that's not black enough. 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:12.760 So what is black? Jamal? 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:14.879 Tell me what is black? And he's like, well, I 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.560 don't mess with that dude, but I think that dude. Okay, great. 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.639 So my problem on the grass side isn't even with 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.320 my own folks. I love my folks, and my folks 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.040 mess with me. It's how I am perceived. I think, 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.840 even for roles even in series that I know that 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:34.040 I would kill it, I am by by the gatekeeper 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.440 who maybe the show creators black, but the studio head is. 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.479 Like, oh no, I wouldn't consider Wayne Brady for that. 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:41.640 Are there three roles that got away? 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:43.240 Three roles that got away? 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:43.359 No? 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:47.879 Three? Is there one? What role almost had it? Well? 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:50.159 I have a few that I have almost had it 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.199 that that I'm not going to blame on race because 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.240 maybe I wasn't the dude on that day, but I 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.120 was offered some a couple of things and then offers, god, 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.560 oh because but the one that's thicks out of my 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.440 head that and I feel it We're going so long, 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.639 so I'm trying to make things quol Okay. This is 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:10.639 not a great movie by any stretch, but it was 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.639 one of the ones. It was around the Chappelle thing 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:15.000 that I was like, I'm gonna show folks what the 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:20.239 fuck I do it? Was snakes on the plane. And 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.400 here's the thing. It was for the role of the rapper. Now, 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.280 now the dude that got it, that's my boy flex. 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.440 I did a movie with Flex. I love Flex. 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:33.600 So if I'm happy that, she said, I was like 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:34.800 doing another Flex. 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.200 So if anybody got it, I was happy because flexing, Yes, 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.879 that's fam But what I did and my audition was 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.920 so genius. I have to say this ship was genius. 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.640 It was for the rapper. I looked at the script like, uh, 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.320 not a great script, the concept you said. I was like, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:57.000 screw it, I'm gonna go in. So I hired two 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:01.480 actors to play my bodyguards, and I hired a couple 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:05.760 girls to be my video vixens, and I for the audition. 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.960 For the audition, I'll never forget, I drove in traffic. 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.000 Like if any of you were actors back in the 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.080 day in La if you had to go over to 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.040 Santa Monica to audition for this day, it was horrible 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:18.920 getting there. I spent about an hour an hour and 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.400 a half in traffic, and I came up with the idea. 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.440 I said, I could do this script. But what I'm 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:28.359 gonna do is I'm gonna be this dude, and then 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:32.320 I'm gonna freestyle what's in I'm in a freestyle the 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.280 story of snakes on a plane, and then I'm gonna 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:39.719 walk out so I get there. I timed it so 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:41.240 that my time was don't even know what time. My 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:45.440 time was like four thirty. Now, keep keep in mind, 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:47.640