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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: What if y'all is on PayPal from Quest Love Supre

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Speaker 2: Last week, we gave you Wayne Brady Part one. In

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Speaker 2: that Wayne spoke about morning routines and why making the

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Speaker 2: bet is important. He talked about favorite cereals and candy,

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Speaker 2: and even remembered a bully from his past. It's an

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Speaker 2: amazing episode and you absolutely need to check it out

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Speaker 2: of the cabin if you have well done, because here's

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Speaker 2: part two. My friend Wayne Brady, Questlove, Fonte, Sugar Steve

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Speaker 2: and myself live in the studio New York City enjoint.

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Speaker 1: This is actually, I think a good time to pivot

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Speaker 1: into this question aside question which was so my version

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Speaker 1: of this story was when I was a staff member

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Speaker 1: of The Chappelle Show.

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Speaker 3: Sorry to meaning sorry sorry sound yeah, because I want

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Speaker 3: to hear here, what's your version is?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm a staff member of Chappelle. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: go on location with those guys. I did all the

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Speaker 1: music for season two and so the roots just happened

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Speaker 1: to be in La at the time when we were

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Speaker 1: shooting a lot of the La Chappelle things. And what

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Speaker 1: you have to understand is that most shows are like

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Speaker 1: planned week in events. They have a writing staff. The

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Speaker 1: genius of season two was the fact that Neil Brennan

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Speaker 1: and Dave Chappelle were pretty much just flying off the

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Speaker 1: seat of their pants, knowing that on Thursday night they

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Speaker 1: have to turn in that tape the comedy Really you're

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Speaker 1: supposed to turn in like the Tuesday before, like days before.

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Speaker 1: I mean there would be times where like maybe a

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Speaker 1: Sesame Street. Oh yeah, Q tip thing, that's new thing.

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Speaker 1: I happen to know that they finished the edit maybe

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Speaker 1: a half hour before airtime. Yeah, before airtime, Like Comedy

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Speaker 1: Central has to like approve that were standing like we

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Speaker 1: went down to the wire. So I do know that

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Speaker 1: we had went out to the four seasons because we

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Speaker 1: wanted to get our Sino to do the whole cheese things.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you tell me the cheese was good, right,

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Speaker 1: that whole thing, and also got uh Anthony Anderson to

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Speaker 1: do the Ashy Larry you remember the dream? Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: I remember was we have met Anthony Ajai in the

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Speaker 1: hotel lobby. Anthony gi the bar wash. He's also the

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Speaker 1: father Maya Rudolph's Fire and Bridesmaids, and he's legendary comic.

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Speaker 1: We had spent so much time talking to him and

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Speaker 1: our Senio was there like just comedian war stories from

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Speaker 1: the seventies or whatever. That I had to go so

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Speaker 1: I can go to the airport. So what Neil will

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Speaker 1: tell me when I landed? He's like, dude, we just

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Speaker 1: created a masterpiece. Like the way they were describing how

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Speaker 1: the night was was like they had made Purple Rain

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Speaker 1: and Thriller at once. And I'm thinking, like, wait, from

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Speaker 1: the whole from that sketch. He says, no, man, He's like,

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Speaker 1: so when you were leaving and checking out at the

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Speaker 1: last minute, guess who we saw in the lobby. I

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Speaker 1: was like, who it's a dog. We saw Wayne Brady

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Speaker 1: and I said, oh my god, what happened? Because I

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Speaker 1: instantly went back mooney on, I'm what I'm expecting. This

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Speaker 1: went down? What went down? He says, no, man, we

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Speaker 1: shot something, And so I'm under the belief that it

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Speaker 1: Had a miacopa kind of understanding moment thing and then

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Speaker 1: it was like, so what are you doing? Do you

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Speaker 1: want to shoot something? And it was very off the cuff,

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Speaker 1: and I was not prepared for any of.

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Speaker 3: Those things like oh no, no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 3: It was so much different for you.

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Speaker 1: All right, so what's your version of it?

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Speaker 3: Well, well, my version is is, well, just going back

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Speaker 3: to when the sketch aired, and I'll do it really,

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Speaker 3: really fast. And this isn't me complaining because I've said

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Speaker 3: the reason that the sketch bothered me. And I'll just

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Speaker 3: say it in that hill. Jokes are jokes. I do

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Speaker 3: comedy everything jokes. A joke's fine. I just happened to

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Speaker 3: Paul Mooney I worshiped at the shrine of Paul Mooney.

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Speaker 3: I never said that Paul Mooney wasn't funny or Paul

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Speaker 3: I love Dave, so imagine my shock. I'm sitting at home,

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Speaker 3: I'm getting my barber. Came over to my spot. He's

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Speaker 3: doing Da Da Da Da, and the Chappelle shows on.

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Speaker 3: Negro was like Wayne Brady looked like him. I went, oh, oh, okay.

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Speaker 3: I didn't laugh at it, not because I was like,

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Speaker 3: I'm above being made fun of. If your joke is funny,

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Speaker 3: please make fun of me. That's what we do. But

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Speaker 3: to me, and now because you saw me talk to

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Speaker 1: And Nicole and Nicole come on now it's as Adams Jones,

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Speaker 3: Race has always been a subject that has played because

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Speaker 3: what does it mean to be black? You know, the

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Speaker 3: liking certain things that have died, so those things for

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Speaker 4: So I've always had that in the back of my

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Speaker 3: So when I see that, I'm like, the joke isn't

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Speaker 3: making fun of Brian Gumbel, who like, say what you

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Speaker 3: want to say. But Brian gumble, this incredibly successful man

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Speaker 3: in his own right doing this thing. So now you're

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Speaker 3: meet And then that means that I'm not black enough?

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Speaker 3: And so does that mean that one of my comedic heroes,

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Speaker 3: Dave Chappelle, who I've rocked with since Robin Hood men

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Speaker 3: in tights and watching him at evenings at the Improv.

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Speaker 4: Before he blew up. This dude really knows who I am.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's awesome, but nothing gonna shit on me and

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Speaker 4: He doesn't think I'm black enough. That's really wow.

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Speaker 3: That shakes, which is why Wayne doesn't go out and

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Speaker 3: about it from a race place and just from a

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Speaker 3: I thought it was too easy, so blah blah blah

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Speaker 3: I don't give sex second and third chances. I am

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Speaker 3: a I'm a very petty, angry person inside sometimes when

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Speaker 3: to I forget what the show was. It was an

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Speaker 3: We were in the bar Donelle's with somebody else and

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Speaker 3: I recognize him immediately because I like the show. Oh

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Speaker 3: it's it's ashy laire, but you gonna drink my drink.

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Speaker 3: He comes over so wonderful and gracious. Wayne, Hey, I'm Donelle.

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Speaker 3: I play Actually I know who you are. I've seen

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Speaker 3: your little playlids all right, just just through the energy.

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Speaker 3: And he was so sweet and Wayne blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: up until that whack ass joke by Paul Mooney blah

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Speaker 3: don't know. And I have to preface it, I had

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Speaker 3: was that how you love me? Black man? Is that

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Speaker 3: This is how fast the shit did happen. So I

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Speaker 3: don't know the timeline that you're talking about in terms

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Speaker 1: Well, I was at the fourth season Hotel, so.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that might have been so so whenever I

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Speaker 4: Wait wait, you got a phone call? Who take Chappelle?

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Speaker 4: I was like, why no, you're lying take Shamlle?

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Speaker 3: It just so sweet as like, look, I didn't write

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Speaker 4: Mooney came up with it.

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Speaker 3: I really didn't like the shit either, but you know,

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Speaker 3: I like the character and da da da, No offense

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Speaker 3: Tony Danzel's name is in the papers, but that's cool.

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Speaker 1: Of this Banddamn questions.

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Speaker 3: I'm handling all the black people because they they they

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Speaker 3: I had Missy Elliott bust the rhymes if you were

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Speaker 4: I walk in the casting office.

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Speaker 3: I'm not waiting. I'm gonna read that ship. Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: and desist. I had a message from my agent.

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Speaker 4: Call nine one one oh.

433
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 3: They wanted to offer me the role. They really liked

434
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 3: you for this role is. I was like, I did it.

435
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 3: It actually worked, and it was that thing of I've

436
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 3: got a name, you see me on TV every day

437
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 3: of these things, I'm still begging and fighting people to

438
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 3: get into rooms, and I'm even trying to get into

439
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 3: this whack movie. So at least I was like, at

440
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 3: least I know that I'm good and this thing happened,

441
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 3: and now it pays off. Now here's where I'm gonna

442
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,239
Speaker 3: be careful because all I know is what I was

443
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 3: told by my reps at this time.

444
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 4: So they get a call.

445
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 3: I'm not going to name who the person was, but

446
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 3: somebody who was in a position of power at the studio. When,

447
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 3: of course these names are being run up the flag pole,

448
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 3: Wayne Brady's name come up, and this white person says,

449
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,719
Speaker 3: oh no, uh uh, not Wayne Brady.

450
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 4: He's not black enough.

451
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 3: He no, he's not black black, he's not black black

452
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 3: black black. There's always an expert air quotes, Yeah, but

453
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 3: I love how he hit black black. So I'm not

454
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 3: black black so but but so so then flex gets

455
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 3: it and that's cool. And I found out this information

456
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 3: because I guess somebody at some point in the chain

457
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 3: felt so bad. They were like, I just want want

458
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 3: you to know. So I was like, okay, So that

459
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 3: one stung me, not because I didn't do a great job,

460
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 3: but because I knew it would be something that I'd

461
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 3: be facing. And I'm not gonna boohoo because it's something

462
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 3: that just as black actors, black people, black black lawyers, black,

463
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 3: we face a certain thing. The naivete that I had

464
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 3: up until that point was well, surely, if I'm really

465
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: dope and you've seen me do things and I'm a

466
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: great at I do broad I do, surely I should

467
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: get the job. Like Nope, because I don't think that

468
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: you are based on blah blah blah. I was like, oh,

469
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 3: I'm an adult, now, fuck it, I get it. So

470
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 3: so that helped me understand. So so that's that's the

471
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: one that got away that I was disappointed in, not

472
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 3: because of I didn't get it, but because I was like.

473
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 1: Man, you're being judged.

474
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 4: If I'm dealing.

475
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 3: Dealing with this, then that sucks for the actor who

476
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 3: is coming up and doesn't have any cloud or doesn't

477
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 3: have a thing to fall back on. So so that

478
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: made me very sympathetic to that.

479
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: Damn man, I'm sorry you didn't get that, and it's

480
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 1: this could have been That movie was terrible though, right,

481
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean it was a commercial.

482
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was actually one of the first movies I

483
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 8: remember like that really went viral, like yeah, the VI

484
00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 8: because the campaign.

485
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: Later because they was like people.

486
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 3: Right, I'll even say right, like am I right? Thinking

487
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: that Sam was already doing this thing. Of course he

488
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 3: was Sam Jackson. But but I feel like that line in

489
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 3: that boost kind of made the mythos of Sam Jackson,

490
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 3: where in every movie you gotta say motherfucker that that

491
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: and and the Tarantine Tino joint, so like those are

492
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 3: the two that cemented Sam as that dude.

493
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Speaker 1: All right, So, speaking of which, what secret talent do

494
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: you have that the general public is not aware of?

495
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 4: I was afraid you'd ask me this questions I saw

496
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 4: you ask some.

497
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 3: I think you asked, uh Hannibal this, Yes, you know

498
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 3: the reality is, and here's my secret. I don't have

499
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 3: secret talents because I've worked so hard to make the

500
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: talents that I do loud like I sing, I dance,

501
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 3: I act, I write.

502
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 4: I can do these things.

503
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: I need you to know those things because if you

504
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: don't know them, then I can't. But the regular life

505
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 3: talent shit, I don't. I honestly, he said Tumblr. I

506
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: mean one time Tumblr all. I really don't know if

507
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 3: I do have any other talents that are of merit.

508
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: So let me remix it. What secret talents do you

509
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: have in the kitchen that we're not aware of?

510
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 3: I'm a master at mixing my cereals, and I don't

511
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 3: say that lightly. My ratios are on points. They are beautiful.

512
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 9: It's a real talent and I.

513
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 3: Can make I'm a good baker. Bakers, Yeah, yes, I

514
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: can bake.

515
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: Well. Who are the three people that you text the

516
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: most each day? Who are the top three people? He

517
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: doesn't text? You're anti technology?

518
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 4: Now, Oh, I'm not a FaceTime but I do text text.

519
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 3: I text my daughter but she gets mad because I

520
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 3: do like to like the FaceTime her. But I text

521
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: my daughter to check check in. I text my daughter,

522
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 3: I text Mandy. What what three people do you communicate

523
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: with your phone every day?

524
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 9: You know?

525
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: And my and my chief of staff Sarah, those are

526
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 3: the three people that that I text with the most?

527
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 10: Maybe staff can about to say?

528
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: There you go? All right?

529
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 9: Before you ask him what kind of laundry detergent he use?

530
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: This?

531
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Speaker 9: Can I ask a real question?

532
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 10: Yes, I'm kind of I'm kind of obsessed with Let's

533
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 10: make a deal.

534
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I was wondering besides like what it's like.

535
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 10: I don't think we've ever had like a but like

536
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 10: what's that like in general? But but also did you

537
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 10: were you a fan of the old Let's make a

538
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 10: deal with Monty Hall?

539
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 4: And no, okay, and I don't say that in a

540
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 4: bad way.

541
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 3: I used to watch it because that's what was on

542
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 3: when my grandmother would watch watch you know, it's like

543
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 3: being black and your mom watches the story story right,

544
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 3: So there was a progression. You would watch The Price

545
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: is Right at some point because they were all on CBS,

546
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: and then I think she would switch over to ABC

547
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: to watch Monty and then she'd watch the story. So

548
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: I would watch it just by being around. But any

549
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 3: game show that I liked, I was a snob because

550
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 3: I liked Jeopardy. I liked anything that I had to

551
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: that was skilled, skill based or trivia. So so so

552
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 3: I wasn't really checking so much for Let's make a

553
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 3: Deal as a kid because I don't yeah, because that

554
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: wasn't my thing. So later in life when I was

555
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: offered Let's make a Deal, I turned it down a

556
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 3: few times because in my mind, and this was before

557
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: game show hosting became.

558
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 4: Cool, I created that lane.

559
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: It was I, well, this is my fifteenth season, so

560
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 3: I guess go go back to what I'm doing the show. Yeah,

561
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: my daughter is twenty one, since she was born in

562
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 3: two thousand and three. So I started the show, which

563
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: was a so so two thousand and something, when I

564
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 3: was offered it, game shows were kind of game shows.

565
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 3: And in my mind when I think a game show host,

566
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 3: I think of the game show hosts that we grew

567
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: up on, which were cool. But you know, the guys

568
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: with long, long long mics and Jean.

569
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 4: And I love and love al right, so you have

570
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 4: let me kiss you? And why you Richard Dawson, that

571
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 4: whole thing.

572
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: So I was like, game shows are that like being

573
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: being a game show host almost I felt had a

574
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 3: taste to some people, especially in the entertainment business, like

575
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: being it's something that could be parodied easily, like a

576
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: weather man or or a bad DJ. Hey this is Jimmy,

577
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 3: and that you could easily make fun of it and

578
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: do a shorthand. So I was like, why would I

579
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 3: do that? Why would I do that thing? I'm not

580
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: going to be made fun of for doing that thing. So,

581
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: and it was nothing against the show. I say, no,

582
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: you got the wrong guy because on that show, and

583
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: you correct me if I'm wrong. You just say, hello,

584
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 3: Irma from Pacoima. You're addressed as a bread Do you

585
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 3: have a quarter?

586
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 4: That's lovely?

587
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: And that's lovely that they do that, but I have

588
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: a skill set that exceeds that. So no, no, thank

589
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 3: you until Mike, Mike Richards, who was the EP at

590
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: the time, he said, Monty Hall really wants to meet you.

591
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm not going to say no

592
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: to meeting Monty Hall, especially because my mom doesn't know.

593
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 4: And no, no. When I started the show.

594
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: When I started the show was alive and Monty I

595
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: had lunch at Monty's house and he was so lovely,

596
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: and I said, Monty, thank you so much, sir, But

597
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: I'm getting ready to write a sitcom. I've got a

598
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: deal for that. I've got things that I need need

599
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: to do. I don't do this. He goes, no, I

600
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: don't want you to. I want you to do what

601
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: you do. That's the only way that this show is

602
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: going to work for a new audience. Because they tried

603
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: various iterations of it, like with Billy Bush I think

604
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: was one of the last ones, and they and they

605
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: tried like a like an adult, let's make a deal.

606
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 3: It's like if you have a dildo in your pocket.

607
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: I was like, well, that's crass. That's not gonna fly.

608
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: So I did not know, so it was wasn't Drew

609
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: Carrey was he doing it on time?

610
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: So he said, I want you to do He said, well,

611
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: what do you mean what would I do? He's like, no,

612
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: you're funny and the improv that you do and the

613
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: things and the characters. I said, really, okay, well if

614
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: you're cool with it. Then I thought about it and

615
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: I tried to do the business. Mind I'm like, well,

616
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: like with my talk show, and I remember being in

617
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: people's homes. It's a very powerful thing, being able to

618
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: touch people every day.

619
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 4: And I also did it because my grandma.

620
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,479
Speaker 3: You know, I'm like, if I can do something that

621
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: my grandma likes, So I said yes, and I started it,

622
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: and I remember being clowned at first, and I'm and

623
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: what's funny is right? As I got clowned by a

624
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: couple of people out here whispers. Then, oddly enough, a

625
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: season or two later, then other men of color were

626
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: doing game shows with very lucrative contracts. And now and

627
00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: now you can't you throw a rock at TV? Michael Strand, myself,

628
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: Steve Anthony Anderson, Jamie Fox, we did all comedy guys, Shazam.

629
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: I'll beat Shazama.

630
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 4: It's all a thing.

631
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: But as I did it, it was like, look at

632
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: this game show, corny, how much is he making for that?

633
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: And what season is he?

634
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 4: And I really wasn't making it.

635
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: And I'll say, and I wasn't making what I feel

636
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 3: I should have now because I know what I bring,

637
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: Like the thing that I've created with that show, with

638
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: the improv, with characters being able to couch it in

639
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: this it's so much fun and I'm.

640
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 4: Glad that people love it.

641
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: But I take pride in the fact that I've helped

642
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: along with our team because everybody on that staff gets

643
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: me and they're like, Okay, let's support that vision.

644
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: Even though you say you don't text that your FaceTime

645
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: or whatever, I'm saying communicating not texting. Yeah, who are

646
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: the three most famous people that you've texted in your

647
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: phone score right now? Like ever, no, no, no, this in

648
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: in the last hour or two since the.

649
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 4: Last I haven't texted anyone famous in the last hour two.

650
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: The most famous name in your your scroll at the

651
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 1: top of your scroll right now is who sugar Steve?

652
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: Oh, well, that's it, Rayu oh okay now rays famous

653
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 3: to musicians, Yeah, of.

654
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: Dancing with the Stars fame.

655
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: So Rachu texted me that that that was great, and

656
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody else that. Oh and Ben Vereen,

657
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: who like if you know, you know Ben, Ben is

658
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: like my godfather.

659
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: So between he's in communication with you.

660
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: Yes, then leave you?

661
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 4: And why don't you love me?

662
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: We want her on the shelves. You can, you know,

663
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: put in a good word.

664
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 4: I don't know if this is she would love to come,

665
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 4: She would love to all right.

666
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: Slight weird question.

667
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: Bring it?

668
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: Have you ever almost been arrested?

669
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 4: Yes?

670
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: Are you allowed to talk about it?

671
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: Oh?

672
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, because the case is finished. No. No,

673
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: it was like you wanted to know about me, man,

674
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 4: you wanted to know. Yes.

675
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: Once as a kid, I was almost arrested for driving

676
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: without a license because a friend of mine was drunk

677
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: and I was trying to to drive him home and

678
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: I was doing the thing of somebody who really I

679
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: was driving very slow?

680
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 4: Oh I was.

681
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: But and of course if you see somebody going like

682
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 3: this then and so even back then, I think I

683
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: had a gift for gab. I let the machine take

684
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: over and he's like, hey, let me see your drivers. Look,

685
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: I'll tell you right off the bat, I'm officer, I

686
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: don't have a license. I'm I don't have a license.

687
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: This is not my car, and contray what you may

688
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: be thinking. I didn't steal it. This happens to be

689
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: my friend's car. As you can see, my friend is intoxicated.

690
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 3: He's drunk. When we were at a Disney party, we

691
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: we both work at Walt Disney World right up the street.

692
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure that he got home. I

693
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 3: took his keys from him. So I would never let

694
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: my friend get behind the wheel of a car because

695
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: his death would be on my conscience. So if I'm

696
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: going to get in trouble for that, then I guess

697
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: I'm ready to go to jail. Oh okay, well, just

698
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 3: drive a little faster. And how far away is it live?

699
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: He lives two minutes away, all right. And I and

700
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: I got off.

701
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 4: That works that, you.

702
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 3: Know, that's the one time that that worked. And and

703
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 3: I've been stopped once or twice by cops and by

704
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: the grace of God or social media or TV.

705
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 4: Hey, you you know what. I love that that's your

706
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 4: pel thing? Where you go? Oh man, that's awesome, d.

707
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 9: Ah man, aren't you tigger? The pinching tager?

708
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: Well, my kid is like when I was a kid.

709
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 4: I was pinched by a tigger.

710
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,479
Speaker 1: Of all your birthdays, what was the best one ever

711
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: that you remember?

712
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 4: Wow, you are amazing.

713
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: These these questions you've never been asked before, never been

714
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 3: asked before.

715
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: I look, I said that in one of the interview

716
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: people I normally wouldn't talk to like youngers, whatever, And

717
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: I want to ask questions that just aren't about your

718
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: press junket.

719
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 4: The best birthday ever?

720
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 9: I think you might have already given it a way.

721
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: I think you know, it's the birthday that I found

722
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: out that my ex wife was pregnant, and my gift

723
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 3: was she told me for my for my twenty ninth.

724
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 4: Birthday, that was her gift.

725
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: She she told me, I'm pregnant because I wanted a baby,

726
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 3: and she wasn't necessarily on board because she she was

727
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: a dancer and an actress and at that point, you know,

728
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 3: and and she would have to give up her thing.

729
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: So I was kind of in my feelings about it.

730
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: And little did I know that she was working to

731
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 3: make my dream come true. I guess, and it happened.

732
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: And so on my birthday, on my twenty ninth birthday,

733
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: she said, uh, this is your gift.

734
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, my was it thirtieth birthday on my third

735
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 4: thirtieth birthday.

736
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's what's up. What was your childhood nickname

737
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: or what is it? Do you have a nickname that

738
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: people call you?

739
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now I have to address the camera again.

740
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: One of the childhood nicknames that I remember is there

741
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 3: was a time when and I hope that you're remembering

742
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: all this, Bill, because when we do my one man

743
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: show that I talked to you about, all these stories

744
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: are going in it. So we have to write songs

745
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: to go with these things. Okay, so we need to

746
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: and then and then Mere you can executive produce. Okay, Okay, great.

747
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 3: So I was actually called gas Man for and I

748
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: don't even know and this was, like I want to say,

749
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 3: this was maybe at the end, maybe it was eighth

750
00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: or ninth grade.

751
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 4: So this wasn't like I was a child.

752
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: And the reason I was called gas man is because

753
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: my grandmother, God bless her, she uses mothballs. I don't

754
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: know if everybody still uses mothballs. But have you smelled

755
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 3: smelled a moth ball? Okay, so so you know what

756
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: a mothball smells like. Now imagine every drawer has mothballs.

757
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: What is the purpose of mothballs to keep away moths?

758
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 9: Wow?

759
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 4: Edit that out please, or some would say, or some

760
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 4: would say to attract them. I don't know.

761
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to be our commercial.

762
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: What are mothballs for fun?

763
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: What? Hey?

764
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 3: Normally when you put a mothball in, you drop a

765
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: ball or two and that should do the job in

766
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 3: each thing. My grandmother nothing like no moderation, mothballs, a

767
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: coating of mothballs, and all of the drawers, so all

768
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: of my clothing that was always folded up in my drawers,

769
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 3: and of course you don't smell stuff outside the house

770
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: until so I started to get called gas man on

771
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: gas man on the bus going to school. And then

772
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: also besides gas man, then there were you know, kids

773
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: can be clever, especially we beautiful kids in the hood

774
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: with minds that can freestyle and make and make things up.

775
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 4: So there were always songs, great songs.

776
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: About gas man, the gas man.

777
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 4: Who who that gas man?

778
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: You know they would put put some Uncle Luke on

779
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: it gas man gas man or or because then my

780
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: mom she shopped very practically for me.

781
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 4: She's like, when I don't have to spend all this

782
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 4: money on your clothes, you always look clean. You look

783
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: clean and dressed.

784
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 3: My shoes so my shoes, Bobbos make fine.

785
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: I heard the.

786
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: Bobo's thing, but yeah, so gas man and Bobo's ah okay.

787
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 4: Oh and Jamaic make Jamaica fuck is what it is?

788
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 4: Jamake make?

789
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: Oh?

790
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

791
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 8: They reduce everybody down to children are shitty people.

792
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 4: Children. No, that's true.

793
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: Children a shitty people because you're limited you you kids

794
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: kids have because you know, because they're little little drunks

795
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 3: that depend on you and our prefuntal cortexes aren't really

796
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 3: formed to what twenty five really so, so they have

797
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: no empathy, no sympathy.

798
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: No filter, no filter.

799
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 4: So I get it.

800
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 3: So that's why I say, man, that's all in the past,

801
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 3: and thank you because they give me great stories.

802
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: There you go, thank you, gash Man with me. What

803
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: theme often occurs in your dream? Is there running theme

804
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: that happens in your dreams?

805
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 4: Easy? Too.

806
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 3: I feel in this session I've been able to unload

807
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 3: more than the therapists that I've seen from the past.

808
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 7: You like a therapy, says, I've ever been likely this

809
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 7: is like us doing true and your friends.

810
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: But I have a belief that dreams are kind of

811
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: absolutely the I feel like dreams are how you get

812
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: communicated to from other entities. Yes, and I feel like

813
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: my father's talking through me through my dreams.

814
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so glad you. Yes, I absolutely feel that.

815
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: I know that my father talks to me. I know

816
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 3: that my grandmother talks to me sometimes. And besides them

817
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 3: talking to me, I feel that your dreams keep you safe.

818
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: That they're almost an early warning system for some of

819
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: the shit that you may do in real life that

820
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: you realize in your subconscious or things that you're afraid of.

821
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: Two of my running that I that I've had the

822
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: same dreams since.

823
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 4: I was a child.

824
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 3: We were the only house on our street on Casino Avenue.

825
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 3: Because people loved and respecting my grandmother, we were the

826
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 3: only house that that was never broken into. And in fact,

827
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: if somebody broke in, like there was one to where

828
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 3: my next door neighbors to the left, this this this

829
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: this this white family, the only white white fam family

830
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: on our side the neighborhood. They were getting broken into,

831
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: and my grandmother walked outside and she actually saw the

832
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: kid and it was one of my school kids. She's like,

833
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 3: what are you doing? Oh, I'm sorry, miss Valerie. You know,

834
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 3: I'm just She's like, don't go in to mine house

835
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: doing it. And and instead of being brawling towards her

836
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: or doing something, he was like, I'm sorry, man, you

837
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 3: know what and didn't go in. Oh oh they got

838
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: him later, Oh yeah, sure right. But I was always afraid.

839
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 3: So my whole thing growing up was I was always

840
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: afraid of somebody breaking into because I never felt that

841
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: our house was safe enough. So I always checked the locks.

842
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 3: We had a we we had the old we had,

843
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 3: oh and the pull thing you do, so we had that.

844
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: But I never felt that our windows were safe, and

845
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: I was always wondering if somebody's gonna break into the

846
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 3: back door. So I've kept that throughout my entire life.

847
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: Light clockwork. Every couple of days, I always.

848
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 4: Have that dream.

849
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: No no matter what house, no matter what apartment I

850
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: used to live in was, I have the recurring dream

851
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 3: of I have to defend myself. No, that's the thing.

852
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 3: I defend myself. I have to defend my family, I

853
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: have to defend my property. I have to because if

854
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: they get in, then we'll we'll be in danger. So

855
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: that's always been my thing, is I have to defend.

856
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I dream about trains.

857
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 9: You said there were two dreams.

858
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 4: Oh, the other one's flying. I'm always flying fear of flying?

859
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: Or you're always flying.

860
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 4: No, I'm always flying.

861
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: I'm two, but it's because but not on the plane,

862
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: by yourself, by myself.

863
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's another three thousand revelations. Well he

864
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: told me a story like Selo taught him Astro traveling

865
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: Andre three thousand.

866
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 4: Wow.

867
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he goes into detail about that. Okay, I'm always

868
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: obsessed with trains, be it soul train or like the subway.

869
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: There was a point point where I was obsessed. There's

870
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: an obsession I have with During the pandemic, I discovered

871
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: a YouTube page of a guy whose goal was to

872
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: just track from soup to nuts, like one end to

873
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: the other end of any train line and anywhere America.

874
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: So during the pandemic, I would actually pretend I was

875
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: going to school, like I get on the mark and

876
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: Frankurt elevated train at fifteen, get off fifteenth Street, and

877
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: then I changed the channel to the subway. And literally,

878
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why I have an obsession with train

879
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: routes on YouTube where the guy just gets on the

880
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: front car and oh, so you're seeing the POV right, Yeah,

881
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: like I can I pretend that now. I know now

882
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: that the next level of the v R thing is

883
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: they're now going to create worlds. What was the movie

884
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: the movie where the little boy in India gets separated

885
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: from his family and he uses Google Earth. Yes, he

886
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: uses Google Earth to find his village. Like he got

887
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: separated from his township for twenty years and then you know,

888
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: as a three year old, he remember there was a

889
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: water tower and he zoomed in and saw right, he

890
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: got lost on the train system as a three year

891
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: old and didn't know where he lived, and then he

892
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: just lived all over. He got adopted by a well

893
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: to do family and he told his well to do family,

894
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: it's my dream to find my birth family. And they's like, well,

895
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: if you go on if you remember this water tower

896
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: thing very specific as a three year old, we can

897
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: go on Google Earth and look for it. And that's

898
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: how he was reunited with his family. But yeah, like

899
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: they're going to create worlds like that on what's Apple?

900
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: Yeah whatever, so.

901
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 3: That you go on Oculus and you use your it's

902
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 3: it's not amazing technology, but I've done using the Google

903
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: Earth to look and now on the Apple Pro, I've

904
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 3: done the same thing. I love the Apple Pro. They're

905
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 3: like that that thing is amazing.

906
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: So how do you use it? What's should I use

907
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: it to?

908
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 3: To watch movies because you really can make the you

909
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: can make an imax.

910
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can go in the movie.

911
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 4: Theater and you can be watching the movie.

912
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 3: Or if I am doing work that you actually can type,

913
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: there's a virtual screen. I look at my emails, you

914
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: can go online. And the great thing because of the past,

915
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: you can do these things as you're just in the world.

916
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 4: It's great.

917
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Seriously, during twenty twenty, during like the pandemic, got

918
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: two oculuses and to be trapped in the house. But

919
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: with those things on, like I would build worlds and

920
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: malls and everything, and literally we'd have date night, like

921
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: get it on the roller coaster and let's walk in

922
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: the mall and it felt real. I built. We would

923
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: do like virtual ping pong and this this resort like

924
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: a Pocono's type of resort thing, but it really felt

925
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: like we were there.

926
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: Like Mike's girlfriend and I did the same thing and

927
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: we would go she would go to sing karaoke that

928
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 3: there'd be these virtual karaoke bars, which just the avatars

929
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 3: and everybody would sing, and I would go along with

930
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: her until my avatar would.

931
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: Just and sit in the audience and watch, sit and.

932
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: Watch, and sometimes I'd sing because at that point nobody

933
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: knows who anybody is, so upus I would do that,

934
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 3: and we'd go to Virtual Disney.

935
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: And I'm not try that yet.

936
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 4: It's so cool. That's when I fell in love with

937
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 4: the Oculus.

938
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: I'm certain now it's more advanced like I had it

939
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: when it first came out.

940
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 4: This new Oculus is much better.

941
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: And then I tapered off, like once we went outside,

942
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: I stopped going on it. But I can only imagine

943
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: now in twenty twenty four that it's super advanced and

944
00:46:53,800 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: it's great. I can't wait for that shout out to Oculus.

945
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: If five records define who you are as a human being,

946
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: what five records in your record collection best describes who

947
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: you are?

948
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 4: In my record collection? Oh man, Okay, you know what.

949
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: I'm going to go through my Apple Music real fast

950
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: because I don't have records in the records are are

951
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: in storage, so I have to remember which ones I have. Okay,

952
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: So just off the top of my head, because that's

953
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: a really deep, deep question. I'd say, oh, you know what,

954
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 3: the Miseducation of Lauren Hill four And I can't tell

955
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 3: you exactly why I love that record so much. And

956
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 3: I felt like I was being spoken to in terms

957
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 3: of being a creative because she was finding her voice

958
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: and finding her thing.

959
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 4: Then and then Zion.

960
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: That was released right as Miley was born, the first

961
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 3: time that I knew about having a child, and some

962
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: people wanted to clown her for her MTV performance when

963
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 3: she broke.

964
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 4: Down crying, but I was like, no, I get it.

965
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 3: I finally get what it's like to love somebody that much,

966
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: to break down crying and not care what you think. Okay,

967
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: that's one of my faite favorites. Kid and played Too

968
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 3: Hype Kid and played too Hype Wow. Yes, And the

969
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: reason is, I don't know if it's because of a

970
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: It's not because of a trait.

971
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 4: It's because of a time.

972
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 3: It's like, that's when I saw these dudes dancing and

973
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: having a good time. Hip hop wasn't you know that

974
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: ear of hip hop wasn't serious. And when I saw

975
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 3: them dancing, they gave me the courage because I would

976
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: sing and dance in my house. Nobody knew that I

977
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: could sing or dance until the first time that I

978
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 3: did a musical on stage.

979
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: Your family didn't know about your talent, nobody.

980
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 4: How'd you hide that in my room? I did a

981
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 4: lot of things in my room.

982
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: You have a voice like I did, you know, rejecting

983
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: the shower?

984
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 4: Nobody I would.

985
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 3: Nobody would know because because the couple of times that

986
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 3: I would do things, my my grandmother said stop running

987
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: around in that nonsense.

988
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, got it.

989
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: Nonsense, can do it in front of you, safety, won't

990
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: do it in front of anybody.

991
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: I got it.

992
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: But it wasn't until so So when SO that came

993
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 3: out in like eighty eight or eighty nine. Eighty okay,

994
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 3: so eighty eight, So I was a so So I

995
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: was a That was at the beginning of my of

996
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 3: my junior year, and that's when I started doing theater

997
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 3: and I saw those guys dancing and Hammer came out

998
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 3: around that time and to hype. So I was like, okay,

999
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna learn those dances and with

1000
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 3: my crippling ass social anxiety, I'm going to go to

1001
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 3: a school dance and I'm gonna get up and do

1002
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 3: the whole thing. Ude. They gave me the courage to

1003
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 3: go out and do that, and so that was one

1004
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: of those things that I just copied their their.

1005
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: Moves getting funky.

1006
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 4: Still, Oh, come on, man, lets you go get funking.

1007
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 4: I love that.

1008
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: Can't play Lauren Hill.

1009
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 3: Prince's purple Rain. Okay, uh, you know it's a little

1010
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: oh and and that's not it. That's not it either,

1011
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 3: that purple reign. I think for our generation that that

1012
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 3: like watching someone.

1013
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 4: That I didn't even know what the whole story was about.

1014
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 3: It made me feel some kind of way like watching

1015
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 3: this this guy sing about sex and these girls and

1016
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 3: you know, like vanity and watching this.

1017
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: Whole thing felt dangerous.

1018
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 4: It felt like I hadn't seen anything like that.

1019
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: I assume that your parents are strict or Christian if

1020
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: they're from the Islands.

1021
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 3: It wasn't even about being Christian if she was very much.

1022
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: But Prince wasn't the devil. She wasn't consistent. There were

1023
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 3: certain things that were bad, but she's like Prince, then

1024
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: it be you know, that's rare, that's Prince.

1025
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: But but the Prince was everyone's favorite target.

1026
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 4: I love Prince.

1027
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 3: The thing that I didn't like is that was my

1028
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 3: first time really seeing and and recognizing what homophobia was

1029
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 3: because you know, my grandmother look at Prince, oh, Prince Princess,

1030
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 3: and Auntie Man is Auntie Man.

1031
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: You know.

1032
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 4: He's gay because he didn't know that's an anti min

1033
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 4: is old.

1034
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: And and so my other rel is my man, Nah,

1035
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 3: that's Auntie Money, don Seron and his ass all hanging

1036
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: out and I don't know who he so, but I

1037
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: was like, I don't, hey, I don't think so look

1038
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 3: at that's actually cool. So watching this dude, I was like,

1039
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: I wish I had that confidence. That guy's wearing frills

1040
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 3: and he's on a motorcycle and that and all those

1041
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: women want him. That's cool. So so definitely Prince Run

1042
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 3: DMC rock Box okay, because that was probably my introduction

1043
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: to hip hop. Okay, like a lot of other kids,

1044
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 3: I'd heard, I guess on the radio and Dad's car

1045
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 3: uh to hip hop hip it. I'd heard that in

1046
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: the message when I was little, But rock Box was

1047
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 3: I think it was like ten maybe because USA night Flight,

1048
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 3: I don't remember that. I remember, Okay, So you would

1049
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: say that's how I would get on my music because

1050
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 3: I would take take a tape recorder and I'd record

1051
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: for all of the videos USA Night Flight, so I

1052
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 3: would just wait, so rock Box Band but ten because

1053
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 3: I did, And then I was like, what are these

1054
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: That wasn't like the hip hop because that wasn't to

1055
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 3: the right, to the left everybody jay wasn't that And

1056
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 3: these guys are in the leather and what are they doing?

1057
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 4: So that made me so I got.

1058
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: Into run DMC, which led me to ll cool J,

1059
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 3: which led me to that whole movement, which which would

1060
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 3: so that was really pivotal. That's when I started freestyling

1061
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 3: because I wanted to learn their songs, but then I

1062
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: would just take words that they used and then just

1063
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: try to rap along with them.

1064
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: How did you develop your confidence for improv and freestyling?

1065
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: Because I feel like if I could just lose one aspect,

1066
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: like when I told you at the top of the

1067
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: episode about like the whole Norm McDonald embracing silence and

1068
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: a bomb joke or whatever, like now I'm a little

1069
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 1: fearless with it, but I believe that really good freestylers,

1070
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: you lind Tarik, if you let your brain go one hundred,

1071
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: all the answers are there. And it's quick. How do

1072
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: you let go? Because you you kind of revealed or

1073
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: out yourself as a person who's like guarded and that

1074
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: sort of thing, but you're also in a profession with

1075
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: the creativity that requires you just to be geranimo, like

1076
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: just fall over and pray that there's a soft landing

1077
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: when you land.

1078
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 4: But that's where I feel safe.

1079
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw.

1080
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 8: I remember it was an episode of Who's Line? And

1081
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 8: I think this was an episode that really because you

1082
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 8: were the reason I watched who was lying, Like straight up,

1083
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 8: I'm you're not like for real, I'm like, yo, I want.

1084
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: To monster on that show.

1085
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, and so like it was one and you had

1086
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 8: been killing it. I was like a fuck with this dude,

1087
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 8: because that was my first time really hearing about you.

1088
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 8: You did a character, it was like a superhero sketch.

1089
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 8: You did a character called the Ballroom Brawler bro that shit.

1090
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 3: I think I remember you threw yourself the entire dog.

1091
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: That was hilarious.

1092
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 3: Like see with that freedom that you talk about, and

1093
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 3: you even said when I teach improv Like, I can't

1094
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 3: speak for anybody else's thing, but I know that all

1095
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: my ship comes from being that kid who sat in

1096
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 3: that room. If I didn't have anybody to play with,

1097
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 3: I had to think and I had to create. And

1098
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 3: then the things that I watched, I if I mimicked it,

1099
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 3: I had to be all the parts.

1100
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 4: So it just made sense to me.

1101
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: Were your only child, was it?

1102
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 3: I have a sister that was raised with me partially,

1103
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 3: but it wasn't until I was ten, so for the

1104
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 3: most part, I was raising only child, gotcha? So I

1105
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 3: found ways to be creative on my own that I

1106
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 3: didn't know. Nobody put a label on it. Like I

1107
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 3: hadn't met Keith Johnstone, who who's one of the fathers

1108
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: of improvisation, and so I hadn't met them. I didn't

1109
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 3: even know there was a word for it. So cut

1110
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 3: to later when I actually started doing improv with the

1111
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 3: group that I was with from Orlando called the called

1112
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 3: sac Theater, and then seven of us moved out to

1113
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 3: LA and became the House full of Honkeys, and that's

1114
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 3: how I got Who's line. I didn't know that there

1115
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: was an organized thing for it. So when they were like, oh, yeah,

1116
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: it's theater where you make up, I said, oh, yeah,

1117
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 3: that's fine because I could always bend on that freestyle

1118
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 3: like I would just freestyle for my friends or we

1119
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 3: can do yeah, so if you want me to and characters, sure,

1120
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 3: I'll just make make stuff up in scenarios great because

1121
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 3: I didn't know what the thing was. But my methodology

1122
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 3: of doing it is I have to act everything out

1123
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: to make it tactile.

1124
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 4: So when you see a scene like that, that's how

1125
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 4: I do.

1126
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 3: My thing is I know how it's supposed to look

1127
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: and feel, and I can do the musical improv because

1128
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 3: I love music and I'm a songwriter. So I just

1129
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: think of an improv song as my first draft. So

1130
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: I feel safe in that, which is weird because I

1131
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 3: feel weird about every other thing and nervous. But with that,

1132
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, I yeah, you just trust fall Yeah, yeah,

1133
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 3: because I know that something will be there. Now will

1134
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 3: it be the most brilliant thing all the time. No,

1135
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 3: and it's not supposed to be. The One thing I

1136
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 3: did learn later is with the yes, sand also comes

1137
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 3: with and Bill can back me up on this, and

1138
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 3: the sense of Okay, I'll go for it, jeronimo. I

1139
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 3: hit it great, I don't hit it better because I

1140
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 3: got to come back around and justify whatever happened. And

1141
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 3: if I'm on stage with partners. I've just given you

1142
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 3: a lane to let you jump in and save me.

1143
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 3: So you have to embrace that failure. And that's one

1144
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 3: of the rules that Keith Johnson and the father of

1145
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 3: theater sports, that I never understood, is like, you have

1146
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 3: to be willing to failsation. By definition, you shouldn't be

1147
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 3: getting laughs. You shouldn't be successful because it goes against

1148
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 3: our primal building character right right, Like it goes against

1149
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 3: the thing of I want you to like me, and

1150
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 3: I want you to understand what I'm saying. I don't

1151
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 3: want you to root for my downfall. When you watch

1152
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 3: an improv show, whether you know it or not, you

1153
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 3: are rooting to see what's he gonna say. There's no

1154
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 3: way that he's gonna rhyme hypothalamus. Nope, not gonna happen.

1155
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: Orange get out of here. That's not gonna happen. He

1156
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 3: sucks orange door hinge. If someone comes up with that,

1157
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: mm Ryan, Okay.

1158
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: So Jimmy obviously started a culture at thirty Rock in

1159
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: which he was known to break character a lot, which

1160
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: was frowned upon a lot at that show, like no

1161
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: matter what, don't break character. But now that Jimmy sort

1162
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: of make it like a coup like cutey thing. Then

1163
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, you see people look down this weekend, watch SNL,

1164
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: watch Kristy Wig and everyone break character. But that level

1165
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 1: of chaos. I do dig, but you know, sometimes I'll

1166
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: just get in my head like I won't know where

1167
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: to go cons and callosis rhymes with hypothalamus worseman. Okay,

1168
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: but I'm a guy who I don't know if you

1169
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: ever see in a micro bigulious don't think twice of course, yes, okay,

1170
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: So is there a general rule like if you're in

1171
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: a group of people, like the temptation to not show

1172
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: off or show out, Like there's a point where they

1173
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: tell Keegan Michael Key like all right, well, don't do

1174
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: your bomber impression. Like in other words, I know when

1175
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: you're showing off and going to the short shot, you

1176
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: going yeah, like your aristocrats trick in the group is

1177
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: not doing that.

1178
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: I think that's always the key, especially in a group

1179
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: of improvisers. It's a conglomeration of everyone's efforts.

1180
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: But how do you know when it's time to shine

1181
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: and bring the show to another level?

1182
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: Honestly, I think with our group it's repetition and doing

1183
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: it over and over again. It's like a great basketball

1184
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: team or a great soccer team. Like in a good

1185
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 2: basketball team, the reason an alley oop works is because

1186
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 2: the guy knows what the other guy's going to be,

1187
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: so he throws the ball to where he knows it's

1188
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: going to be. It's the same thing with us. I

1189
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 2: feel like, you like, if you know Lin's coming up

1190
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: to do something, you'll lob him align and it'll work whatever,

1191
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: and you'll leave him somewhere that makes it funnier, and

1192
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: everything just sort of gets like on top of each other,

1193
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 2: on top of each other and top each other until

1194
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: it's like ready to explode. And that I mean, sometimes

1195
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 2: it's luck. It feels like sometimes it's having a great night,

1196
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: and honestly, sometimes you have a shit night. I mean

1197
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 2: we've done hundreds of shows where it's just like, wow,

1198
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: we can't even buy a laugh.

1199
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: You know.

1200
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 2: That's kind of the thing about improv, which I find

1201
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: to be so interesting. It's like even bombed, like bombed

1202
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: and like in front of many thousands of people, and

1203
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 2: it's just like it teaches you to fail.

1204
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, And that's kind.

1205
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 3: Of and you have to know what that feels like

1206
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 3: and I think the worst thing that can happen to you,

1207
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 3: and this happened to me is with the success of

1208
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 3: Who's Line. Before Who's Line, I was not the funny

1209
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 3: person in the Household of Honkeys. I had my role.

1210
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 3: I was like, I do the song stuff, and I

1211
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,919
Speaker 3: can do characters and physical things. But because improv isn't

1212
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 3: really my thing, I'm doing the group haha. But my

1213
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 3: thing is I'm gonna get cast in a sitcom or

1214
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 3: and another thing or like so, so I don't consider

1215
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 3: myself funny.

1216
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 4: You can use me.

1217
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 3: But after I got Who's Line and then I was

1218
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 3: one of four that they're like, oh no, we hired

1219
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 3: you because we expect you to be able to come

1220
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 3: up with something. Now it was the first time that

1221
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 3: I was called upon to be funny on the dime.

1222
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 3: And the training that Whose Line gave us is it's

1223
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 3: kind of the antithesis to what you just said. The

1224
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 3: four of us that you know, the regulars, we've come

1225
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: to know each other's strengths and we can give each

1226
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 3: other lobs all day. But because of the nature of

1227
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 3: the games and what it is, it's always it's a

1228
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 3: team sport, but it's also we know that Wayne can

1229
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 3: do this, We know and can do that, We know

1230
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 3: the Ryan's gonna do this. We needed a so you're

1231
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 3: always you can lob for somebody else, but they expect

1232
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 3: you to be able to step forward and take it.

1233
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: Is there ever free practice or like, are you given

1234
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: slide sides? No?

1235
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 3: The only practice that we have is a camera blocking

1236
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 3: and so we know the games, but we don't know

1237
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 3: and any suggestions. And the camera blocking isn't even for us,

1238
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 3: it's for the actual camera guys to know. Because Whose

1239
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 3: Line was so innovative and people have tried to shoot

1240
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 3: improv shows before.

1241
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 4: But the reason that whose.

1242
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 3: Line works is and I learned this as a producer

1243
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 3: from Dan Patterson, the guy that created it. He's not

1244
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 3: doing Who's Line for the people that are in that audience.

1245
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: The people in the audience are a tool. He's doing

1246
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 3: it for the home viewer. So the reason that we

1247
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 3: would have that camera blocking is he wanted to know

1248
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 3: is if we were doing a game like talk show

1249
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 3: wait and I'm gonna put you in the audience, and

1250
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 3: if we're following the conventions of a talk show, maybe

1251
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 3: I might get up and be angry and run down

1252
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 3: the stage and tackle him, or I might run out

1253
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 3: the bin. We want the cameraman to know if we're

1254
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 3: doing X game and they have to follow, but we

1255
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: would never get a prompt. And that's what was so

1256
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 3: amazing about it, and our hit to miss ratio got

1257
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 3: to be so good, like it was scary. I was like,

1258
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 3: we really don't have They're like, oh, there must be

1259
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 3: so much who's lying that you left on the floor. No,

1260
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 3: because they're so cheap in a good way that if

1261
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 3: we take for four hours, everything we try has made

1262
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 3: it onto air at some point in some time. So

1263
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 3: I got lolled into a false sense of oh, well,

1264
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 3: I'm bad in everything until the first time that I

1265
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 3: did say something on stage this is shit. Shit didn't

1266
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 3: work in a comedy club like oh pardon me, wow.

1267
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 4: So learning to accept that failure and go, oh, great,

1268
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 4: well that didn't work. Cool. I suck, but I won't

1269
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 4: suck now.

1270
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: Is it true that you guys have to have a

1271
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: certain level sit energy with each other for it to

1272
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: truly work? Yes, Like say if like I'm passive aggressive

1273
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: with you and will kirk that stage, like and we

1274
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: have a disagreement or an argument whatever, is it easy

1275
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: to turn back on and.

1276
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 3: Just it's possible, or maybe it's possible. I also think

1277
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 3: it depends on how well you know each other. Like

1278
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 3: a group like Freestyle Love Supreme, they came up together

1279
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 3: and they have a chemistry that have been lucky enough

1280
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,439
Speaker 3: to jump in and out and sample. Like my friend

1281
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 3: Jonathan and I who hosts Let's make a Deal? I

1282
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 3: mean to who co hosts it, and he's also and

1283
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 3: Let's make a deal. We've known each other since we

1284
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 3: were nineteen, so we have a shorthand. It's easy when

1285
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 3: you have a shorthand. If you're mad at somebody, to

1286
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 3: do a successful improv show, it would be hard because

1287
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 3: you have to be so open to what the other

1288
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 3: person is doing.

1289
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 4: It's trust.

1290
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 3: And so if I don't trust you, I'm not gonna

1291
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 3: mess with you, because then I'm gonna take it on

1292
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 3: my back.

1293
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. You know what, No, I got this.

1294
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,919
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna wind down. Five questions left, and I'll

1295
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: try to make it briefish. What one thing did you

1296
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:06,439
Speaker 1: leave behind in twenty twenty, hm, And what new thing

1297
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: did you gain in twenty twenty?

1298
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 3: I left behind in twenty twenty I think I left

1299
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 3: behind a bit of that fear that I talked talked about,

1300
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 3: and I gained a brand new sense of I'm going

1301
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 3: to live my life because life is too short. I

1302
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 3: literally tried to live my life knowing that there's a

1303
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 3: clock and not a bad clock. But there's just a clock, okay,

1304
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 3: and I want to be happy?

1305
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: All right? What movie are you ashamed to admit that

1306
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: you've never seen?

1307
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 3: There are so many movies I feel that that are

1308
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 3: in the zeitgeist that we've heard, we've seen, bits that

1309
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 3: you feel like you've seen that.

1310
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: You're supposed to feel like I've seen that, Like I

1311
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: don't even I'm nowhere near it.

1312
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: Or better yet, like a movie that you're supposed to

1313
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: have seen.

1314
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 4: Oh, Star Wars.

1315
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: Brady brother. Now, granted I can give the entire Star

1316
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: Wars with him, I can.

1317
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 3: Give you the entire plot of Star Wars and because

1318
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 3: over the years, but I never Star Wars fell in

1319
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 3: the gap of I didn't see a movie and a

1320
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 3: movie theater until I was sixteen years old, and I

1321
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 3: went on a date that I could afford to pay for.

1322
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: We never went but as but my grandma went, well,

1323
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 3: you can't see the movie. But we got you these

1324
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 3: and McDonald's had the commemorative Star Wars glasses, remember totally,

1325
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 3: so so she got me those and we collected the

1326
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 3: set of four. It's like, there's your Star Wars. So

1327
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, so never seen it? Still what you are?

1328
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 9: Wow?

1329
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: What's you you never see?

1330
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 8: I never Star Wars this day to this day. Anything

1331
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 8: was just like magical White People and l's and ship.

1332
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: I ain't fucking with that ship. So like Magical White People.

1333
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Lord of the Rings, Game of Throne.

1334
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 8: I've watched Thrones, but I've not watched Lord of the Rings.

1335
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 8: Harry Potter, I've never seen like I'm yeah.

1336
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I in the pandemic. I finally watched Star Wars

1337
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: and it was a struggle, like I've watched them five

1338
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: times or on the you know, the tour bus, you start,

1339
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: I start the Godfather on the tour bus.

1340
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 8: Is like all the I mean, the first three are

1341
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 8: like them, the ones, but then all the ones they made,

1342
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 8: yeah I heard them.

1343
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: I heard one of them are good. Yeah. So it's

1344
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: I've still not watched Return of the Jedi, but I

1345
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: think I confiiciently say that I've watched Star Wars to

1346
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: the point where I remember it Empire strikes back. I

1347
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: know I've seen it twice, but I don't remember shit

1348
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: like and I still can't tell you what Star Wars

1349
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: is about, like.

1350
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 9: Good versus Evil.

1351
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's the hero's journey. But yeah, like now,

1352
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if it holds up to to the

1353
01:06:54,320 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 3: other stuff that invincible invincible spoken, invincible invincible learn.

1354
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: Okay, are you five minutes early or twenty minutes late?

1355
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 4: Five minutes early.

1356
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 9: So now you can't be friends?

1357
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 4: This sucks, no, but.

1358
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 3: I can give you a well well that comes with

1359
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 3: a in parentheses. So five minutes early, because if left

1360
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 3: to my own devices, I will be twenty minutes late

1361
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 3: because I get caught up in that thing I forget

1362
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 3: what they call it, the time blindness, or I will

1363
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 3: get I'll stand stand in my closet distracted red shirt,

1364
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 3: the sweater you can't wear that, and then I play

1365
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 3: the scenarios.

1366
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 4: If now that won't look at it, if I do,

1367
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 4: if I don't.

1368
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 3: It, oh, okay, I got no, But I have to

1369
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 3: and I'll be rooted in one spot until whatever the

1370
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 3: thing is that I have to solve solves. So I

1371
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 3: have to leave extra early to allow time for me

1372
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 3: getting stuck.

1373
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 8: When you officially die and noose with ADHD and when

1374
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 8: was that and like, what's that process been like kind

1375
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 8: of managing it?

1376
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 3: It's been great because you using the medication when I

1377
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 3: need it. It does help me focus and as a creative,

1378
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 3: you know, we all have ideas. Oh I'm gonna it

1379
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 3: helps me get things done. It's no problem getting an idea.

1380
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 3: It's doing something with the fourteen that you have and

1381
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 3: then write and shit down or or even using getting

1382
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 3: focused enough to I'm up. Now I have to get

1383
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 3: out of bed, and now I'm gonna make my bed.

1384
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lay in my bed. I'm not gonna

1385
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 3: using it that way. And also understanding certain patterns and

1386
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 3: behaviors that I have, some that are superpowers and some

1387
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 3: that aren't.

1388
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:32,879
Speaker 4: So so it's a good process.

1389
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 8: How old were you when you like finally realize I

1390
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 8: guess or we're diagnosed.

1391
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 4: Five years ago?

1392
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: Oh wow?

1393
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 3: Okay, oh yeah, I've come to many things late in life,

1394
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 3: but better late than never.

1395
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: Listen.

1396
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 3: That's part of that trying to be be be happy thing.

1397
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: This is part of the pandemic pivot, like I'm home now,

1398
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 1: and yeah.

1399
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 3: Why am I like this? Why does this thing happen?

1400
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 3: Why am I not happy? Blah blah blah.

1401
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 1: Okay, Soe, you mentioned something on the tonight show which

1402
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: I kind of want to ask, which was because the

1403
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: thing was Twenty twenty was the year in which, as

1404
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 1: I predicted, half of my friends made life transitions as

1405
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:20,440
Speaker 1: far as their partnership was concerned, including my own relationship

1406
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: imploded in twenty twenty one at the time. To the

1407
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: person I was dating before the pandemic, you made a

1408
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: decision to quarantine with your blended family. Yeah, with your

1409
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: ex wife who's now still your partner and whatnot your

1410
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:43,480
Speaker 1: daughter you I don't know your current situation now, but

1411
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: first of all, whose idea was it? And would you

1412
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: recommend that?

1413
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 4: Like, I would only recommend it to someone if you've.

1414
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 3: The family became known because of TikTok when everybody got

1415
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 3: on TikTok at that point, and we started doing dance

1416
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 3: videos and we would post, oh, this is our family story,

1417
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 3: and then news outlet's pick that up, and it was

1418
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 3: so weird. For wait a minute, you're quarantining with your

1419
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 3: ex wife, you're living in the same but if we

1420
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 3: don't understand, so the only way that we could get

1421
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 3: to that is I wouldn't recommend that unless you've had

1422
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 3: before twenty twenty. Mandy and I met in ninety five.

1423
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 3: We were together for years and then we got divorced,

1424
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 3: and we had our baby before that, and then we

1425
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 3: made a decision to stay friends and to work on

1426
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 3: our and we genuinely love each other like we are family.

1427
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 3: Like we couldn't be together romantically, but that is my heart,

1428
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 3: that is my family. She would kill for me and

1429
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 3: I'd kill for her, you know, And so being able

1430
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 3: to it's a fluke for some people. And to then

1431
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 3: do it with her boyfriend, who her boyfriend, Jason, and

1432
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 3: it's not even boyfriend her her life partner used to

1433
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,480
Speaker 3: be my backup dancer when I'd had my Vegas residency.

1434
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 3: So add another layer on top of and it it

1435
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 3: sounds wa a whacky sitcom.

1436
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 4: But we we love each.

1437
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 3: Other enough, and I'd like to think that with enough

1438
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 3: therapy we needed to do therapy. I needed so much

1439
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 3: therapy to be okay with myself that I could be

1440
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 3: okay with Jason and I try to be on some

1441
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 3: toxic man shit have like.

1442
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 4: Well, that was my But you can't be bitdebba.

1443
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 3: No, this is another man who stepped in, who my

1444
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 3: daughter feels safe around, and who I've never gotten a

1445
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 3: call from my ex wife saying this guy's hurting me

1446
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 3: or he's stealing money, or he has treated us another way,

1447
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 3: so I love him. So I would not recommend it

1448
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 3: unless you have a history of therapy with your family,

1449
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 3: because even knowing everything I know, now, that's not for

1450
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 3: the week.

1451
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 4: You must know.

1452
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 3: Each other well to be quarantined together. That's no joke.

1453
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: Okay. What will you admit is one of your worst habits?

1454
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 4: Commitment? Okay, and not that I was cheating or doing anything.

1455
01:11:58,720 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 4: I'd get into.

1456
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 3: Sort to anything and then go, whoop, I can't do

1457
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 3: it because I would be because I commit so fast,

1458
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 3: because I want, oh, like I would love that relationship,

1459
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 3: or I would love to do this job. Because they

1460
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 3: think that I'm talented, or she thinks I'm good, or

1461
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 3: they think that I mean And then you jump into

1462
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 3: something you're like, oh, this was not the right move.

1463
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have done it. Okay, I gotta quit. I

1464
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 3: gotta quit, I gotta quit, I gotta quit. And so

1465
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 3: you get out of it.

1466
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see, I'm gonna complete this. I fucked up.

1467
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 1: I said yes to everything, and I'm not regretting it

1468
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 1: because they're passions. But I wish I could.

1469
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 3: Just be like dog just so you can you can

1470
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 3: help me, because Mandy lives by if you say yes,

1471
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 3: you have to rock it all all the way through.

1472
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 4: And I agree with that in theory.

1473
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 3: But there are some things that you say yes to

1474
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 3: that are not good for you, like somebody may not

1475
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 3: be good for you, so I don't want to. My

1476
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 3: habit was I would try to see it through to

1477
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 3: some kind of conclusion instead of just chopping it off

1478
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 3: and then even accepting a job that you're like, Okay,

1479
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 3: this is gonna suck. Why am I doing this? It's

1480
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:04,879
Speaker 3: not gonna be good for me. I'm gonna look bad.

1481
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 3: Look I'm out.

1482
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did shit to the detriment of like the

1483
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:17,799
Speaker 1: casualty of my was basically my relationship, which was again,

1484
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 1: as soon as we got out in the world, the

1485
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: first thing I thought about was all the work I'm

1486
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: gonna do now that we're out in the world, instead

1487
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: of like the progress that I was on, like hey,

1488
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: and then it's like all right, well, you'll you'll have

1489
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: time for this relationship in twenty thirty something, so, you

1490
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: know which, I was like, all right, so I guess

1491
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: this is over. Even though it was quasi amicable. The

1492
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:46,719
Speaker 1: breakup much to the detriment of my relationship at the time, Like.

1493
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 3: Even when I'm sacrified amicable, what did you say, Even

1494
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,560
Speaker 3: when it's amicable, it's not amicable because somebody's got to

1495
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,759
Speaker 3: kick the other person and that just sucks.

1496
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in trust me. I'm definitely the bad guy

1497
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: in this scenario. And I feel horrible that I made

1498
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 1: so much progress and improving and slowing down and sleeping

1499
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: more and all that stuff, and the second life was open.

1500
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, back to work, you know, funstones,

1501
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: and now realize I fucked up. So but I'm gonna

1502
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: see this stuff through, and then I promise I'm really

1503
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: going to commit to just like one thing at a

1504
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: time and not stack a whole back pile of things

1505
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: like it's not human to direct four movies at once

1506
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 1: and make a record and no, it's not human. So

1507
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 1: I don't recommend.

1508
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 4: That, but you did it, so good job.

1509
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: Well yeah, it's it's it's going to be good. So

1510
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: hopefully not. Hopefully I'm training myself to not. I don't

1511
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: talk to be good. Yes're talking to the affirmative, the affirmative.

1512
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: All right, last question, You have thirty seconds to talk

1513
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: to your twelve year old self.

1514
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 3: Oh wow, well this is easy because I've talked to

1515
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 3: him many times. So what do you want me to

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01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 3: talk to him about?

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01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 4: Well?

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01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 9: What would you mixing cereals?

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01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: What would you want to tell him if you were

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01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 1: allowed to have a butterfly wing effect to a certain belief.

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01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 1: This's part of me that actually wishes that I give

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01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: an opportunity. I'm almost thinking I'm sick enough to actually say,

1523
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: you know what, everything the way happened, let it happen.

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01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: But I think I would be open to some sort

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01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: of improvement, like if I could have the confidence and

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01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: the insight that I have now at fifty three, right

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01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: at maybe like thirty three, even forty three, Like you're.

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01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 4: The same person. I hate you?

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01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 1: Right, No, no, no, I'm just one of my regrets

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01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:01,879
Speaker 1: was like, wow, at forty nine my eyes finally opened,

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01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,719
Speaker 1: And now I'm just thinking like damn man, like forty

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01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: nine now and that would be sixty and shit. No,

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01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: but you can't think I could have made magic.

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01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 8: You want everyone's ass like thirty, Like Noah, thirty, you

1535
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 8: don't get it, then it's you want to do hood

1536
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 8: at shit with your brain like a somewhere it.

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01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 3: Can't even work, like because that's around the same. Yeah,

1538
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 3: like I would have had that epiphany. I'm fifty one now,

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01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 3: so it wasn't until you know, like being forty six,

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01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 3: forty seven, that you start doing that work. And of

1541
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 3: course you would wish for that confidence, but I would

1542
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 3: challenge you and say, if the confidence that you could

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01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 3: even have at forty or thirty whatnot, who knows where

1544
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 3: you would be. So so the only thing that I

1545
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 3: could tell to my twelve year old self is I

1546
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,839
Speaker 3: can't regret anything, because I guess things have turned out okay.

1547
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,600
Speaker 3: There are things that I hate all the time, like

1548
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 3: career moves that I went. I wish I wouldn't have

1549
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 3: done that shit, but but life isn't horrible. So the

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01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 3: only thing I can tell him is I wish that

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01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 3: what I want for him is maybe not to change anything,

1552
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 3: but I want for twelve twelve year old Wayne to

1553
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 3: know when this sounds like a hackneyed life thing, to

1554
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 3: just know that you're enough in that sense and just

1555
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 3: and just know that you're gonna be and like you're dope, Like,

1556
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 3: trust me, you're You don't even understand how dope you are,

1557
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 3: because I don't even know how dope I am. Because

1558
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 3: I get excited if somebody that I recognize, like you

1559
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 3: even saying hi to me, or anybody that I respect

1560
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 3: and says, oh Wayne, I saw Alicia Keys the other

1561
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 3: day and Swizz and.

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01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 4: They're like, oh Wayne, it's like you know who I am?

1563
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that whole thing that's still that twelve

1564
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 3: year old kid who is like, but.

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01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 4: So yo, you are so good. You are so great.

1566
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 3: Don't worry about being cocky, don't about pleasing people, don't

1567
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 3: about being black enough, don't be that you're gonna be good.

1568
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 3: So do what you want to do instead of living

1569
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 3: your life and having it affect your choices and then

1570
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 3: without telling him to change anything. Maybe if he just

1571
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 3: did that, then we'd see what would happen.

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01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: Butterfly wise, all right, before I close this show, man,

1573
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: it's just hitting me right now how apropos this moment is.

1574
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: Because I've had a relationship with one particular date that

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01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 1: for me was always doom and gloom and always I

1576
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 1: felt like defined the darkest period of my existence. Like

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01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 1: for me, the idea of questlove was invented, the idea

1578
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: of this, the idea of everything was invented. On all

1579
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 1: the ironic dates to remember fucking June second, Like, in

1580
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 1: my mind, June second, eighty nine was the worst day

1581
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: of my life in which you you know, you always

1582
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 1: had that moment. I don't know if it happens for

1583
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: you guys, whatever, but you know, I'm certain you've had

1584
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 1: it where you just like that, never again. I'll show them.

1585
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to oh yeah, and that moment was June second,

1586
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: Like I documented June second, nineteen eighty nine, where I

1587
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: will you know letters you see Michael Jackson writing himself

1588
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: no longer I will be the like I've written composition notebooks.

1589
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm never cutting my hair. I'm growing this outrageous June second,

1590
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine. It's so weird that what I deemed

1591
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 1: the worst day of my life now is someone that

1592
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 1: I in the beginning was talking like, oh yeah, it

1593
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 1: would be cool. Now I'm like, ah, fucking universe is

1594
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 1: sending me something. It was even to the point where

1595
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: I hate it all Geminis.

1596
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 4: That's when you were a juge Gemini.

1597
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: Oh I get that now, dog, And that's the thing,

1598
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: Like there's a Gemini Kathy's is like the people that

1599
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: are real close to me. I hate Jim, I used

1600
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 1: to hate so this whole these whole two episodes. Thank you,

1601
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: Wayne Brady. You finally disarmed, disarmed my my ire and

1602
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 1: disdained for Geminis.

1603
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad I was able to bring some love.

1604
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: Do I appreciate you coming and doing that? Wait, I

1605
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: guess so that Amber is not totally angry with me.

1606
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 1: How's your experience been with the Wiz?

1607
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 7: Were about to know you as a person and not

1608
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 7: your profession. But no, the Wiz come on, Like, what

1609
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 7: can I say in just a few seconds? You know,

1610
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 7: the Wiz to be able to bring this seminal piece

1611
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 7: of black theater to stage again after almost fifty years

1612
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 7: of being not here, That's why I wanted to be

1613
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 7: a part of the show. I want to be part

1614
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 7: of this black moment. This is a moment and the

1615
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 7: talent on stage is it's it's impeccable. It's like when

1616
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 7: you talk about black excellence, and I know that some

1617
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 7: of us have a hang up now with to turn

1618
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 7: black excellence because it denotes that other people. I'm gonna

1619
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 7: say it, it is black excellence because everybody on.

1620
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: That stage it's real bad, right, right, not consumers and

1621
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: blax right, It's not that.

1622
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 4: Look at what I'm.

1623
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 3: It is watching people Like when I watch the dancers dance,

1624
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 3: and I know a couple of them used to be

1625
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 3: a ley and they trained. You watch people that when

1626
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 3: when I watch them dance, I think of in the

1627
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 3: classical world, you know, black bodies in the ballet space

1628
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 3: and the modern space being being told your butt's too big,

1629
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 3: your hips are too wide, you can't do those things

1630
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 3: because of how you're built and being able to turn

1631
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 3: a eurocentric thing on its head and then come come

1632
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 3: up with your own form of it. Watching these dancers

1633
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 3: do that, I was like, that is excellent. Listening to

1634
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 3: these voices, these these these amazing voices, like like our

1635
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 3: Dorothy and the Tin and the I forget the characters,

1636
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,799
Speaker 3: but but I know their names, Avery, Philip and Kyle.

1637
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 3: Their voices are anointed, the voices in the cast, the

1638
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 3: talent you can throw a rock and any of those

1639
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,799
Speaker 3: people you would pay to listen to a record from

1640
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 3: from them, and I look at that and I go, Wow,

1641
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,640
Speaker 3: that's what it feels like to not be the only you.

1642
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 3: And I look at that and it's one of the

1643
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 3: only times that I've been in a cast like that,

1644
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 3: where I go, I'm so blessed. I'm humble that you're

1645
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,440
Speaker 3: in a community of youth that I'm in a community,

1646
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 3: and it's amazing.

1647
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:34,839
Speaker 4: So please come out and see the Wiz.

1648
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: That's all saying.

1649
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 3: You don't have to be black to see the Wiz.

1650
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 3: I'm just saying you don't have to go. So Bill Sugar,

1651
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 3: I'll see you there. Thank you for the invite. Way

1652
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 3: we will be there.

1653
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 9: Yes, Now is this the machine talking or is this.

1654
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: Really wanting you to come out?

1655
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 9: I just want to know who to ask for when

1656
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 9: I got there.

1657
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 4: Wayne's very proud.

1658
01:22:54,840 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 1: Of a brother. Thank you for coming on the show. Yeah,

1659
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 1: got out to a liah suage Love.

1660
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 3: Next time I come back, we have to freestyle. We

1661
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,759
Speaker 3: have to set it up so we can do something today.

1662
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: Yes, you're definitely going to be a mainstad on the

1663
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: show Man. Thank you for coming on. We have a

1664
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:23,520
Speaker 1: new Bill and Healthy Sugar and font Diegelo and Liyah

1665
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: Uh this quest Love and Wayne Brady.

1666
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 9: Thank you very much and.

1667
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: We'll see you on the next Quest Love Supreme. Thank

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01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: you for listening to Quest Love Supreme. Hosted by a

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01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 1: mere Quest Love, Thomas, Why You, Saint Clair, Fonte, Coleman, Sugar,

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01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: Steve Manteo, an unpaid Bill Sherman. Executive producers are a

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01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: mere Quest Love, Thompson, Sean Ge and Brian Calton. Produced

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01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: by Me Benjamin Cousin, Jack Payne, Liah Saint Clair, edited

1673
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 1: by Alex Conroy. Produced by iHeart by Noel Brown. What's

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01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: Love Supreme is a production of ihearten Radio. For more

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