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Speaker 1: Golden Nights in overtime. Last night, the Clippers handled the

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Speaker 1: Suns one of six ninety two. Chris Paul was back,

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Speaker 1: but pretty much a no show with Devin Booker as well.

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Speaker 1: Devin Booker playing with that broken nose now. He came

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Speaker 1: in averaging twenty eight points in the playoffs. He was

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Speaker 1: just five of twenty one from the floor, one of

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Speaker 1: seven from three point range. He had fifteen points and

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Speaker 1: he's obviously bothered by the mask, the protective mask that

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Speaker 1: he has to wear for that broken nose. Chris Paul

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Speaker 1: didn't have a mask on, but he was coming back

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Speaker 1: from COVID protocol, and I wondered, if you start Cameron

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Speaker 1: Payne and then you bring Chris Paul in. That was

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Speaker 1: what I suggested yesterday. You know, for anybody who's going

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Speaker 1: to say, well, they shouldn't have started Chris Paul and

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Speaker 1: you're saying that today, I got to say it before,

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Speaker 1: but Chris had not been playing trying to come back,

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Speaker 1: and it's not that easy. You think that you can

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Speaker 1: Now do I expect him to be better in game four, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: But last night I was wondering if Campaign would have

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Speaker 1: been the guy to start. He has played well, and

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Speaker 1: then you bring Chris Paul in. Well, that's not a

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Speaker 1: bad one two punch there, And you know, I have

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Speaker 1: a team that's gonna ride that momentum with Cameron Payne.

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Speaker 1: But I'm sure Chris Paul saying, hey, put me in

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Speaker 1: the lineup. I'm ready to play. But give credit to

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Speaker 1: the Clippers. You know, this is what you needed. This

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Speaker 1: was a desperation game for them, and you had some

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Speaker 1: contributions from a couple of different players. By the way

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Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson is not afraid, not afraid at all. And

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Speaker 1: but when you think ray Reggie Jackson and you're going, oh, oh,

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Speaker 1: that Reggie Jackson, you have to say Clippers guard Reggie Jackson.

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Speaker 1: But not afraid. Big moment. Vodka was not afraid last night,

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Speaker 1: certainly helping the first half. Paul George had a really

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Speaker 1: good all around game and you pick up the win.

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Speaker 1: And it must be something about a two O deficit

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Speaker 1: that just brings out the best in the Clippers, because

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Speaker 1: all three rounds they've dropped the first two games and

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Speaker 1: then they won game three in all three series against

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Speaker 1: the MAVs and Jazz, they of course went on to

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Speaker 1: win this series. They're now two games down, two games

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Speaker 1: to one to the Suns in the conference finals. So

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Speaker 1: we got a long way to go. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Kawhi Leonard's going to play now. I was told,

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Speaker 1: hey that bias source that they wouldn't be surprised if

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Speaker 1: games and maybe seven games. Once again, the Clippers don't know,

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Speaker 1: but somebody close to the team said, you know that

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Speaker 1: there is that possibility that he could be back. Tyler

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Speaker 1: picked up their defense on booker role players like Reggie Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Beverlely, Terrence Mann stepped up, Paul George acted like

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Speaker 1: reflect back on game two, because that was a miracle

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't. But you lose that game, you come back.

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Speaker 1: You had to win this game. They proven they can

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Speaker 1: win without Kawhi Leonard. The Suns still lead the series.

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Speaker 1: They still have the home court advantage, but the series

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Speaker 1: we probably thought after those first two losses by the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: and good morning to mclovin. With our poll question. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I have a few BC poll questions and we have

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Speaker 1: the A do you want the bcs first? You know,

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Speaker 1: the sort of moderate ones? Sure, and then we'll hit

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Speaker 1: you with a hammer. Okay, Wow, rapid fire. Who wants

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Speaker 1: out more the seventy six ers to get away from

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons or Ben Simmons to get away from the

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Speaker 1: seventy six ers. Oh, we're both? Do I do? I

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Speaker 1: think Ben once out of Philadelphia after Embiid called him

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Speaker 1: I think it's best for Ben to be away from

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Speaker 1: Moorey said hey, we're not shopping him. Okay, I don't

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Speaker 1: believe that for a second. If Daryl Morey every offseason,

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Speaker 1: every GM does the same thing. You take inventory, you assess,

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Speaker 1: you reassess, you decide going into the next season. Are

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Speaker 1: we better than we were last season? He's already said

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Speaker 1: we weren't as talented as we need to be. Okay,

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Speaker 1: how do you get more talented? I think Ben Simmons

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Speaker 1: you're not getting Dame Lillard. You're not Portland would be

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Speaker 1: crazy to entertain that if I'm Philadelphia and I could

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Speaker 1: get Dame Lillard for Ben Simmons. Yes, yeah, I'll walk

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Speaker 1: can't decide. It's a It's a tough call for me

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Speaker 1: I just can't. He's neither is ever gonna happen Zach

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Speaker 1: like who are you gonna pay? You gotta pay Ben

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Speaker 1: Simmons when you pay there. Yeah, I mean, he's got

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Speaker 1: four years left on his contract here. But I think

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Speaker 1: it would be best for both because I think those

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Speaker 1: And this mental aspect that's behind this. Yeah, I watch

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Speaker 1: free throws last night. I actually googled Ben Simmons free throws.

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Speaker 1: I am googling Ben Simmons free throws and then I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to troubleshoot this. But you know, his form isn't great.

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Speaker 1: I'm wide open. But there's a reason why you're wide open.

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Speaker 1: They want you to be wide open. And the hardest

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Speaker 1: Believe it or not. It's like, wait what because they react,

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Speaker 1: You don't think in the moment, and you could see

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Speaker 1: Ben is thinking and that you're not taking shots in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. You can't have your second best player,

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Speaker 1: he's afraid of getting found. I think his separation would

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Speaker 1: be best for both. Mark cal Folds needed to get

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Speaker 1: I think the same thing has to happen with Ben Simmons.

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Speaker 1: What else do you have? All right, one more quick hitter,

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna hit you with the hammer. All right.

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Speaker 1: If you were Rick Carlyle, would you have taken the

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee got out of the Atlanta Series because he was

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Speaker 1: a rumored to be their first choice as well. All Right.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand what's going on with any of this that,

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Speaker 1: like the Pacers wanted to hire somebody they fired before,

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Speaker 1: along with Luca. Therefore the MAVs were moving on. Now

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Speaker 1: thinks that Luca's gonna win multiple championship. Why would you

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Speaker 1: multiple championships with Luca, and then he's going to Indiana.

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Speaker 1: All right, what are you getting it? If I'm Indiana,

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Speaker 1: Dallas didn't want him. We've fired him before. Hey, come

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Speaker 1: former mav want a title there. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's a great coach. I think players like him. I

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Speaker 1: think they like the way he played, but I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he's going to make them better. Can he

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Speaker 1: make Luca better? I guess, but I don't know. Did

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Speaker 1: Steve Nash make Kyrie better? Did he make James Harden better?

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Speaker 1: He played the position he played point guard? Well, of

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Speaker 1: course he can help you. Um, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: But Jay Kidd has more experience. The Greek freak loved

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Speaker 1: him in Milwaukee. I just don't know if that's an upgrade,

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Speaker 1: And maybe it'll turn out to be. Maybe you just

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Speaker 1: needed to have a change of scenery for Rick Carlisle.

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Speaker 1: But there's turmoil there with the Dallas Mavericks in the

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Speaker 1: going to solve anything you got. You got some real

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Speaker 1: maybe they would have hired him there, But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I always get a little nervous when somebody doesn't want

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons. Philadelphia probably doesn't want him, but they can't say, hey,

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Speaker 1: pick up. Dan. If anything, Campaign really has a great

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Speaker 1: pace to his game, and that's why the combination of

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Speaker 1: he and Chris Paul are very good, and Chris has

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Speaker 1: to push the ball, I think early in game four.

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you see out of Paul George?

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Speaker 1: You know, I've been knowing Paul since he's seventeen years old.

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Speaker 1: My son and he both went to fresh No State.

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Speaker 1: I love him, I've mentored him over the years. He's

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Speaker 1: a tremendous young man and I think people really look

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Speaker 1: at him the wrong way at times. He's an honest guy.

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Speaker 1: He actually says what's on his mind, and he's extremely talented,

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Speaker 1: and he's having fun being batman. It's not easy being robbing,

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Speaker 1: and that's what he has been really in his last

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Speaker 1: two stops since he left Indiana. You know, although he

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Speaker 1: had got MVP consideration Oklumba City, he was still robbing

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Speaker 1: to Westbrook and he's robbing to Kawhi. And when you're robbing,

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Speaker 1: you you hesitate at times, you know, you feel more

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Speaker 1: pressure now he's loose. I mean, he's the guy. He

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Speaker 1: can do everything, dribble it up, take shots to twenty

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Speaker 1: six last night. Didn't worry about being off. I mean

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Speaker 1: if he was robbing and Kawhi was playing and Kawuhi

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Speaker 1: was rolling and he was struggling, you might see hesitation

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Speaker 1: in this game, as we've seen that with this duo.

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Speaker 1: So I love Paul George. I think he's tremendous and

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Speaker 1: the Sons have to do some things to stop him

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Speaker 1: and slow him down because he can be the difference

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Speaker 1: than the series, he Saidie Johnson, the Sun's color analyst

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Speaker 1: for Ballet Sports Arizona, co host of NBA Today on

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Speaker 1: NBA Radio, and a former great score in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: You know you mentioned that about Batman and Robin. I

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Speaker 1: brought that up with Ben Simmons. I think Ben would

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Speaker 1: be better elsewhere because he has played better, more comfortably.

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Speaker 1: When Joe l Embiid was out, he was a different player.

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Speaker 1: And yes, so I could see that as a reason

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Speaker 1: why if I'm Ben that I do want to get out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not gonna win anything anytime soon, but I

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Speaker 1: need to start over. I need to hit the reset

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Speaker 1: button for my career. Maybe he gets confident, maybe he

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Speaker 1: starts to get a little better shooting form there, But

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Speaker 1: what do you think of that logic? He dropped forty

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Speaker 1: on Goldbert with m beat out. Yeah, that's the biggest example.

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Speaker 1: Very aggressive offensively because he knows now it's on his shoulders.

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Speaker 1: You know, when mbat is there, he defers to him

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Speaker 1: rightly so, but he's uncomfortable in doing it. It takes

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Speaker 1: him out of rhythm. I totally agree with you. He

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Speaker 1: needs to get to a team where everything is on

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Speaker 1: his shoulders and then he's forced to do some things

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Speaker 1: that he doesn't like to do. I heard you mentioned

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Speaker 1: Scotty pipping, you know, in regards to he and KD.

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Speaker 1: And if you remember, Scotty was robbing to Jordan obviously

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Speaker 1: and they won titles. But the one year that Scotty

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Speaker 1: was able to be batman, he made all leads and

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Speaker 1: really a fantom file away from maybe getting back to

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Speaker 1: the finals. And then I know you brought up the

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Speaker 1: Ku Koke situation. Well that's why Scotty was upset, because

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Scotty went back to that thought

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Speaker 1: where when Jordan was there, he never got that chance.

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Speaker 1: Now Jordan's gone and he's been batman all year. Phiel

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Speaker 1: wants to let Kukoke take this shot, and it just

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Speaker 1: it hit him in a way that you know that

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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense because Mike was there when Paxon hit

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Speaker 1: the shot against the Suns, and Mike was there when

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr hit a big shot against the Utube exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: But it took him a quarter to finally throw the

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Speaker 1: ball to Paxon because Field kept telling him to throw

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Speaker 1: it okay, and then he had to like put Steve

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Speaker 1: Kerr under under under a court pressure where he kept

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Speaker 1: asking him, you're gonna be ready, He's gonna be ready

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Speaker 1: to shoot before he gave it to him. Okay, No,

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Speaker 1: you're right, But that's Michael that we know. We know

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Speaker 1: Mike's competitiveness there. But if I said you could have

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Speaker 1: Durant as a teammate or Pipping as a teammate for me,

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Speaker 1: individ for me. And and this is why I say

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Speaker 1: this because to me, Magic is the best ever. And

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Speaker 1: I think when Lebron retires, I think Lebron will be

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Speaker 1: And here's why, because you know me, Dan, what was

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Speaker 1: I as a player? I was a guy that dependent

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Speaker 1: on dependent on my teammates. I mean, my success was

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Speaker 1: depending guys that got me open and guys that got

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Speaker 1: me the ball. Well, Magic and Lebron are two of

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Speaker 1: the best ever at getting you the ball and still

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Speaker 1: getting there. Whereas with Katie or with m J. I'm

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Speaker 1: watching just like Paxson and Kerr was watching. So you know,

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Speaker 1: we all have different eyesight in regards to who we

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Speaker 1: would like to play with, who we think is the best.

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Speaker 1: And for my money, I would take Scottie because I

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Speaker 1: know Scotti is going to involve the entire team. And

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Speaker 1: no disrespect to Kevin Durant. He's an unbelievable basketball player man,

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Speaker 1: and I love watching him. But that's how I would

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Speaker 1: view it. Do you think Lebron can end up as

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Speaker 1: the best player of all time? I do, I actually do.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got to win another title or two

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Speaker 1: to do it, but I do. He's one. He's trumped

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Speaker 1: him and he's trumped everybody and every record. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's got everything, longevity, records, he's the most one of

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Speaker 1: the most unselfish players ever to play, and he might

519
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Speaker 1: wind up be the all time leaders scoring his game

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Speaker 1: and top five top five. Isn't that amazing? I don't

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Speaker 1: care the six and Oo is always gonna be there

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Speaker 1: as the shadow over him. But Scottie Fiffin six and

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Speaker 1: oh give me, it's a team. It's a team record.

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Speaker 1: Give me your Michael Jordan on the court story, the

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Speaker 1: most tenacious dude I've ever encountered in my life. Is

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Speaker 1: there a story though that does? Oh yes, Oh yes.

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Speaker 1: We at Indiana Pacers the year that they were trying

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Speaker 1: to they were trying to win seventy three instead of

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Speaker 1: seventy two. Well, we were playing him at the end

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Speaker 1: of the year, and really nobody really needed the game.

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Speaker 1: They were just a game we were playing. But I

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Speaker 1: knew that they wanted to get seventy three. And it

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Speaker 1: was a close game. And it was in the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter and I think we were up six and I

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Speaker 1: was in the game and I looked at him, I

536
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Speaker 1: guess you are not getting seventy three, and he just

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Speaker 1: looked at me and he started chewing his gum real fast,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, And for the next minute and

539
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: a half he lost his mind. I mean, it was

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00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: like it was game seven. And he fouled me at

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Speaker 1: the end on a jumper and they called a file

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00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: hit me on the elbow and I had two freak

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Speaker 1: rows to seal the victory. And he was just mad

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Speaker 1: and he was walking off the court and he and

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Speaker 1: I was like crossing path. I said, man, what is

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00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: wrong with you? Said? Just be careful what you act.

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Speaker 1: It's great to catch up with you, Eddie, and thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Enjoy your round to golf there, all right,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. That's Eddie Johnson's son's color analyst.

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00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: That's not a bad life there, you know, getting ready

551
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: to play golf early in the morning. He's co host

552
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: of NBA Today on NBA Radio as well. A couple

553
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: of phone calls in here. Dmitri and Phoenix leads us off,

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00:31:51,680 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: Hey Dmitri, Hey Dmitri, turned out on your radio. And

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00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy in Chicago, Hi Jimmy, and happy Friday. Thank you.

556
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: Thank Got a question for you, possibly a poll question.

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Speaker 1: Would you you can only choose one? Would you rather

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00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: be an NBA champion? Would you rather win an NBA

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00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: championship or be a Hall of Famer? You can only

560
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: choose one? Yeah, we've talked about this before. Um, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys who have won championships who aren't

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Speaker 1: Hall of famers, aren't marquis players. I think if if

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Speaker 1: you said I was going to have the career of

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Speaker 1: Carlial owner John Stockton, I would take that. I don't

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00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: need to win a championship because if you said, ask

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Speaker 1: John Paxson, what would he rather have his career or

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Speaker 1: John Stocktons, Yeah, Paul, Steve Kerr or Charles Barkley. Charles

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Speaker 1: Barkley's first ballot Hall of Fame, one of the great

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Speaker 1: power forwards ever does not have a title. Steve Kerr

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00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: has a bunch of rings. One he was directly responsible

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Speaker 1: for directly, but he was I don't think he started

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Speaker 1: twenty games in his career Steve Kerr, but he also

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Speaker 1: won titles. He's going into the Hall of Fame. Remove

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Speaker 1: the coaching. I'm just saying, oh, okay, just as a player,

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Speaker 1: Steve Kerr was a bench player. That's not even in debate.

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Speaker 1: Charles Barkley at Steve Kerr joined late in the franchise

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Speaker 1: in the legacy anyway, And I mean I would rather

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Speaker 1: have Charles Barkley's career. I don't Robert or Charles Barkley

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Speaker 1: that that's a debate. A little bit more so. But

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00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: Mark Madson won a title and dance with the Lakers,

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00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: like nobody wants his career. You know. Yeah, the title

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00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: thing can be open, but he wasn't involved in that title.

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00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: Kerr was involved, but he can't. But Kerr wasn't in

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Speaker 1: the beginning. I feel like Kerr jumped on a little bit,

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Speaker 1: wasn't he the last two years? I just remember that

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00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: from the documentary? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, winning a

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00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: championship is wonderful, but you're still a Hall of famer.

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00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: Cash in Colorado? Hey, Cash, what's on your mind? Happy Friday? DP?

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Speaker 1: How's it going? Hy buddy? What do you have for him?

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00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: I just wanted to call in and say that Ben Simmons,

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00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: hey by the media isn't really fair in my opinion,

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00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: and it's just making it worse for him. Defensively, impassing wise,

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00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: he is impacting the game greatly in my opinion, and

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Speaker 1: it sounds like Doc maybe just siding with him, but

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Speaker 1: I really feel he's a great player and a jump

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Speaker 1: shot away from being an all time great. Also, can

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Speaker 1: I ask you've talked in to Mike Tyson? Impressions for

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Speaker 1: the viewers? Real quick? Okay? All right cash, he's asking

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Speaker 1: a request of Fritzie and here's Mike Tyson impersonation. You

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Speaker 1: want me to fight a shock or wrestle in case

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Speaker 1: I don't want to fight a shock of ridiculous With

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Speaker 1: friends like that, who needs enemies? Right there? I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about my boxing career. I'll talk about weed

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Speaker 1: and pigeons, and then you give me one more laugh.

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Speaker 1: That's having me. You always finished with the laugh. We

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Speaker 1: remember when we had Tyson on and he was at

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Speaker 1: his kitchen table. I think he was eating cereal and

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Speaker 1: smoking pots. Definitely doing a bad order. I was like,

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Speaker 1: Mike are you are you smoking? And he was. I

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Speaker 1: think he was having cereal and smoking pot. Yeah. My

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Speaker 1: other favorite one, it was rod our test Metal world

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Speaker 1: Piece came on a show and he was in our

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Speaker 1: green room in Los Angeles. He's like, are these apples free?

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Speaker 1: And he grabbed one apple for his pocket and one

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Speaker 1: apple for his hand, and you guys did the fifteen

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Speaker 1: an interview when he was housing his apple. Yeah, during

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Speaker 1: the interview, you're just annihilating it all right, let me

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Speaker 1: take a break. McLevin says he has an impossible trivia question. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is worth staying in your car for okay, it

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Speaker 1: involves possibly involves Eddie Johnson's career. Okay. Well, also at

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Speaker 1: the play of the day coming up, and your phone

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Speaker 1: calls as well. We're back after this. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty hard. Okay, probably get it. You

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Speaker 1: get a pie to the face. Yeah, I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you'll get it. But it's actually not even

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Speaker 1: that good. Okay. Uh. There have been five players who

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Speaker 1: have won the sixth Man of the Year multiple times.

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Speaker 1: Can you name all five? Okay? Uh? Eddie Johnson. See

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Speaker 1: no Johnson. That's why I do. I would get you, guys,

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Speaker 1: because I even have off Eddie Johns. Eddie Dotson only

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Speaker 1: won it once. Somehow you got me because I think

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Speaker 1: they put him in the starting lineup. Jamal Crawford one.

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Speaker 1: Uh did they give it out to John Havil check? No,

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Speaker 1: they started. They started in eighty one? Okay, um or

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Speaker 1: something like that. Did Kevin McHale? When you got two,

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Speaker 1: that's Jamal Crawford. Kevin McHale, Um, Lou Williams. That's three. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Ricky Pierce, that's four. All right, so I got two

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Speaker 1: to go on to go one? You got four? They're

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Speaker 1: five sixth Man of the Year and he won it twice.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to give a hint? If I take

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Speaker 1: the pie off the table, I'll give you a hint.

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Speaker 1: Do we want to take the pie off the two? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That's okay, okay, okay, I don't want to get pie

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Speaker 1: on my new crocks. That's really really interest Okay. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This guy you would never I'll give you you never

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Speaker 1: would have thought he was a sixth man. Um you

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Speaker 1: liked you had a funny way of saying his last

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Speaker 1: name on Sports Center Love Shrimp. Yeah, all right, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know he was a sixth man. I thought he

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Speaker 1: started it was with the Indian Hunt. Yeah, first half

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Speaker 1: of his career. Then he became a starter in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: It had no idea. But I can't believe you have

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Speaker 1: four You made me nervous. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: All right? Uh did we settle on the poll question? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we put up Kade versus Scottie Pippen. Whose career do

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Speaker 1: you want? Take a guess who's waiting? Whose career do

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Speaker 1: you want? Pretty close, I'll give you a head. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna say the audience will side with Kevin Durant. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fifty five percent in Kevin Durant. I mean, that's closer

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Speaker 1: than what I thought. I mean, Scotty's a wonderful player.

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Speaker 1: But if Scottie doesn't play with Michael Jordan, Scotty's not

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Speaker 1: one of the fifty greatest players of all time. I

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Speaker 1: think he might be the best defender I ever saw. Now,

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Speaker 1: Bill Russell was spectacular with what he did. Scotty could

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Speaker 1: guard everybody. But Bill Russell was spectacular. But Scotty would

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Speaker 1: guard point guards. He could guard wings. He could guard

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Speaker 1: big men. I mean he was. He was as versatile

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Speaker 1: as anybody. He wasn't a shooter, he was a scorer.

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Speaker 1: He did it. He allowed Michael to freelance a little

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Speaker 1: bit more because he was such a great defender. And

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Speaker 1: I don't want to pile on Scottie Pippen. It's just

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Speaker 1: he's saying things. First of all, if I read this

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Speaker 1: quote about Phil Jackson, people are focusing on Kevin Durant

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Speaker 1: and Scottie talking about Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant firing back.

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Speaker 1: This is what I don't understand, and this, to me

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Speaker 1: is a bigger story. In this GQ interview, Scottie Pippen

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Speaker 1: was talking about when Tony ku coach was told that

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Speaker 1: he was going to get the shot, you know, that

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Speaker 1: game on the line. Scottie, you know, then finds out

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Speaker 1: he's not going to take the last shot, and he

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Speaker 1: says the following, I don't think it's a mystery. You

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Speaker 1: need to read between the fine lines. He didn't re

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Speaker 1: enter the game by the way he went and sat down.

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Speaker 1: It was my first year playing without Michael Jordan. Why

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Speaker 1: wouldn't I be taking that last shot? I've been through

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Speaker 1: all the ups and downs, the battles with the pistons,

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Speaker 1: and now you're gonna insult me and tell me to

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Speaker 1: take it out, take it out of bouncing. It was

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Speaker 1: pretty low blow. I felt like it was an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to give ku Coach a rise. It was a racial

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Speaker 1: move to give him a rise after all I'd been

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Speaker 1: through with the organization. Now you're going to tell me

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Speaker 1: to take the ball out and throw it to Tony

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Speaker 1: ku Coach. You're insulting me. That's how I felt. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's one thing to say. That's how I felt. But

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Speaker 1: you're calling Phil Jackson a racist? Where is the follow

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Speaker 1: up question? Like I got to be incredulous to say, wait,

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Speaker 1: may hold on, you got other examples of Phil Jackson?

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Speaker 1: Why why racial? Did he just make a smart move

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Speaker 1: to put in Tony ku Coach a better outside shooter.

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Speaker 1: And I would say, let me give Scotty the benefit

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Speaker 1: of the doubt because the word racial just it's like

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Speaker 1: I don't nowhere. But he starts not by saying you

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Speaker 1: need to read between the fine lines. That's where I

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Speaker 1: can't give him, you know, a hall pass here. And

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Speaker 1: if I'm Scottie, I get my butt in front of

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Speaker 1: somebody and say something like unless you mean it, unless

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Speaker 1: you're saying Phil Jackson is a racist? Here would I

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Speaker 1: would say, look, I want to correct this or back

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Speaker 1: it up. But we called for Scottie. If he came on,

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Speaker 1: I'd say, all right, are you calling Phil Jackson a racist?

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Speaker 1: I don't care what his opinion is that Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant and Lebron are not the same. Wonderful players.

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