Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from
Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always
Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West and Hodkuitz, were coming to
Speaker 1: you from different locations here at lambeau Field and Wes.
Speaker 1: The last show that we did there was only one
Speaker 1: training camp practice in the books. There are now five
Speaker 1: training camp practices done and over with, including the first
Speaker 1: one in pads, albeit only shoulder pads. The full pads
Speaker 1: will go on for Tuesday's practice. But the initial impressions
Speaker 1: what everybody's asking asking us about Wes is okay, So
Speaker 1: how's Jordan Love looking? How do things look? So your
Speaker 1: early impressions through five practices of Jordan Love as QB one.
Speaker 2: I thought he's stacked days on Saturday and on Monday.
Speaker 2: I thought Sarah was one of his better practices. I mean,
Speaker 2: there was some folks out there that were wondering if
Speaker 2: it was his best practice. I'm guessing those folks weren't
Speaker 2: there in twenty twenty one during the mini camp or
Speaker 2: whatever that was on June ninth, where I thought looked
Speaker 2: like we were looking at Joe Montana for a couple
Speaker 2: seconds with some of the throws he made. But the
Speaker 2: fact of the matter is, I think you're seeing a
Speaker 2: young guy grow with confidence in his ability to deliver
Speaker 2: the football. What was interesting about Monday's practice, though, Mike
Speaker 2: and I'm currently in the middle at the time that
Speaker 2: we're taping this, in the middle of our writing our
Speaker 2: five Things story, was some of the can plays and
Speaker 2: some of the audibles that he made the pre snap
Speaker 2: adjustments in that team period against the defense. And one
Speaker 2: of them, one of the biggest plays of camp, actually
Speaker 2: came off of a can play, and that was this
Speaker 2: man beater that they ran to Christian Watson kind of
Speaker 2: sensing they were getting man defense from the Packers unit.
Speaker 2: Christian Watson ended up singled up against in his gains,
Speaker 2: and Innis is a fine player, but with no safety
Speaker 2: help over the top and a guy with four to
Speaker 2: three seven speed, I mean that the rest of the
Speaker 2: equation kind of solves itself. And certainly Jordan Love put
Speaker 2: the ball exactly where it needed to be. I think
Speaker 2: you've seen both Love and Watson really grow in their
Speaker 2: chemistry and late relationship this offseason, and just the way
Speaker 2: in which he's kind of managing the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: Another play that I'm kind of isolating was the RPO
Speaker 2: that he ran on that quick inside slant to Watson
Speaker 2: during a period actually before that play, when he was
Speaker 2: matched up against Jerry Alexander and he found something he liked,
Speaker 2: he made the check and then Watson was on the
Speaker 2: same page. It's one thing to throw a ball. It's
Speaker 2: one thing to run the scheme and the play call
Speaker 2: as it's called in. It's another thing to be able
Speaker 2: to start to manipulate and take advantage of what the
Speaker 2: defense has given you. And I felt like Monday particular,
Speaker 2: Love showed a lot of those signs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the first couple of practices, as I mentioned on
Speaker 1: our last show, you always expect the defense to be
Speaker 1: ahead in the early going, and I think that showed
Speaker 1: the offense Jordan Love trying to get their footing a
Speaker 1: little bit, and we saw the offense bust out a
Speaker 1: little bit on Saturday. I really even though there was
Speaker 1: maybe only the one like wow play with the sideline
Speaker 1: shot to Samari Turey that was in the two minute
Speaker 1: drill toward the end of practice, fantastic route and throw
Speaker 1: and catch, really big highlight there.
Speaker 3: But what really.
Speaker 1: Stood out about Saturday was just the efficiency the way
Speaker 1: Love was operating the offense. Matt Lafleur even commented on
Speaker 1: just the smoothness of the operation of the two minute drill,
Speaker 1: so you can see that the progress is being made.
Speaker 1: It wasn't as efficient today then on Monday when the
Speaker 1: shoulder pads went on, But I agree with you that
Speaker 1: what we saw on Monday were those adjustments, the choices,
Speaker 1: the decisions that were being made because hey, and as
Speaker 1: you said, no disrespect to in his games, this is
Speaker 1: a safety. The Packers are trying him out at Nickel
Speaker 1: corner and some of the sub packages defensively, so he's
Speaker 1: trying to learn a new spot, and the Packers' offense
Speaker 1: happened to get in a position where Watson was in
Speaker 1: the slot and in his gains was lined up across
Speaker 1: from him, essentially one on one. Well, yeah, that's almost
Speaker 1: a no brainer. Like Jordan Love and Christian Watson are
Speaker 1: looking at each other and they know exactly what needs
Speaker 1: to be done on that play. They executed it deep
Speaker 1: ball down the field works, and yeah, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't care if it's jy R. Alexander lined up across
Speaker 1: from Watson, if He's on the backside slant of an
Speaker 1: RPO and that's one on one. I like his size
Speaker 1: to win the matchup there. Jordan Love did too, he
Speaker 1: pulled the ball back instead of the handoff on the
Speaker 1: RPO hit Watson on the slant. Those are the types
Speaker 1: of things, Those are the players that move the chains,
Speaker 1: Those are the things that get some momentum going for
Speaker 1: the offense. I think I think we saw that and
Speaker 1: now you know, we'd like to continue to see that
Speaker 1: moving forward, as the Packers will have a couple more
Speaker 1: padded practices this week before then Family Night under the
Speaker 1: Lights on Saturday night at Lamba.
Speaker 2: Well, the big key for green Bay right now is
Speaker 2: going into the two minute, because I think when you've
Speaker 2: seen some of the scripted periods, those team periods, things
Speaker 2: have actually gone pretty well for Green Bay and the
Speaker 2: offense as of late, it's been the two minute where
Speaker 2: they kind of had some hiccups. Monday was another one
Speaker 2: of those circumstances, the defense holding the Packers offense at
Speaker 2: Bay in all three units and actually with the ones
Speaker 2: kway Walker was this close from picking off Love across
Speaker 2: the middle on the very first play of the drive
Speaker 2: and Honestly, I'm sure that's when we didn't talk to Quai,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure he'd love to have that one back
Speaker 2: because it was right in his mets and you have
Speaker 2: to be able to react to that, you have to
Speaker 2: be able to grow from it. But when you look
Speaker 2: at the plays that Watson has made, that Jaden Reid
Speaker 2: has made these last couple days, as you mentioned Samory's
Speaker 2: catch on Saturday, thirty three yards on third and three
Speaker 2: down the sideline, I don't think Jordan Love could have
Speaker 2: physically thrown a better ball on that play. The big
Speaker 2: play in the explosiveness is there. It's about managing the
Speaker 2: certain situations I think is going to be critical for
Speaker 2: this offense moving forward because it is about protection.
Speaker 3: And it's funny.
Speaker 2: As much as I mentioned the Kuway Walker play, Love
Speaker 2: actually has done an exemplary job of protecting the football.
Speaker 2: There's really one interception, the Devondre Campbell pick last week
Speaker 2: that I can think of with the first team unit. Obviously,
Speaker 2: Carrington Valentine picked off Danny Etling during practice on Monday.
Speaker 2: But by and large, Green Bay has done a good
Speaker 2: job of taking care of the football. But it's those
Speaker 2: type of bang bang decisions. That you throw a pick
Speaker 2: on the first play of a two minute series, it
Speaker 2: turns everything on its head.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Walker should have had that pick, and the
Speaker 1: defense did ultimately still win the drive and has won
Speaker 1: the vast majority of the two minute drills I think,
Speaker 1: and we were standing quite a ways away. I think
Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs lost his footing on the crossing route there
Speaker 1: on the ball that Walker should have picked off, but
Speaker 1: not getting a super close look at it, not entirely
Speaker 1: sure what happened.
Speaker 3: That's a spin margin though, right though, Mike, Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: a sid margin. Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned a guy, and I want to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit more about him, as well as a
Speaker 1: couple others. The impressions that the rookie are making in
Speaker 1: the early stages of training camp, there are two that
Speaker 1: jump out to me more than anybody else. And it's
Speaker 1: Jaden Reid on the offensive side, and it's Carrington Valentine
Speaker 1: on the defensive side. Read the second round draft pick
Speaker 1: out of Michigan State playing slot receiver, seems to come
Speaker 1: up with a play, a big play in some form
Speaker 1: or fashion, just about every day in practice. The ball
Speaker 1: seems to find this young man when he's out there
Speaker 1: on the field, that is definitely something to watch going forward.
Speaker 1: And Carrington Valentine, the seventh round pick, just twenty one
Speaker 1: years old. I actually looked it up. He's going to
Speaker 1: turn twenty two west the day before the season opener
Speaker 1: in Chicago.
Speaker 3: Oh good, I want to feel so old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this young man, we talked about him during OTAs
Speaker 1: where you know he sort of by default had moved
Speaker 1: up the depth chart because Alexander and Douglas were not
Speaker 1: at OTA's Eric Stokes was still doing you know, rehab
Speaker 1: and whatnot. And you know when he was lining up
Speaker 1: across from Dobbs and some of these other guys in OTA,
Speaker 1: he wasn't backing down. I thought he showed some tenacity.
Speaker 1: He showed some spunk and h and it's carried over
Speaker 1: to the start of training camp and and uh, as
Speaker 1: far as that strong start, it was sort of capped,
Speaker 1: if you will, by by a pick six off a
Speaker 1: throw by Danny Yetling in practice on Monday, and uh,
Speaker 1: and the defense celebrated like crazy, like you would uh,
Speaker 1: you would imagine they were pretty fired up to see
Speaker 1: that rookie seventh round pick from Kentucky make a big play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the three s's for me, Mike. I mean,
Speaker 2: when you look at it, it's speed, size, and swagger.
Speaker 2: I feel like Valentine has all three of those. And
Speaker 2: we saw it in the off season program. You and
Speaker 2: I did some of these these unscripteds talking about you know,
Speaker 2: him stepping up and competing, competing against Romeo Dobbs. It
Speaker 2: wasn't like he's just going up against some undrafted guys
Speaker 2: trying to you know, be bubble guys and going up
Speaker 2: against the top guys on this team, especially when Jayra
Speaker 2: and Rasseul weren't here. So I thought he's made some
Speaker 2: really nice plays. I think Corey Balentine has also competed
Speaker 2: as well. I mean, the Packers are showing the depth
Speaker 2: of that position beyond those top three or four guys,
Speaker 2: and certainly Valentina guy. Again that I think everybody had
Speaker 2: a certain level expectation for coming to Green Bay, just
Speaker 2: given how much praise, you know, mel Kiper had thrown
Speaker 2: at him, a lot of these things. We'd heard about
Speaker 2: his upside relative to you know, just having a pick.
Speaker 2: I think maybe at Kentucky maybe didn't have the jaw
Speaker 2: dropping numbers that people want from elite prospects. But I
Speaker 2: just I've really enjoyed what I've seen from him. And
Speaker 2: if I may just quickly with Jaden Reid, We've talked
Speaker 2: so much about the explosivity of his game mic, but
Speaker 2: I think what has impressed me the most through the
Speaker 2: first week of training camps is his smarts, And you're
Speaker 2: hearing more and more guys talk about this in the
Speaker 2: locker room. His knowledge of the route tree, his knowledge
Speaker 2: of knowing where he needs to be on the field.
Speaker 2: That's kind of the intangible for a young receiver coming
Speaker 2: in and playing right off the bat. You can have
Speaker 2: all the speed in the world and athleticism in the world,
Speaker 2: but if you don't understand how you fit into the
Speaker 2: construct of the offense, it's going to be along a
Speaker 2: long year for you. And I think the more and
Speaker 2: more we watch Reid and the ways that Green Bay
Speaker 2: could potentially use him, the more excited you get about
Speaker 2: where he could potentially fit in Matt Lefflour's scheme.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's certainly looking like Jayden Reid is going to
Speaker 1: have a big role to play in this offense as
Speaker 1: a rookie. As the slot receivers He's picked things up
Speaker 1: very quickly. I think the smarts, as you just mentioned,
Speaker 1: to have a lot to do with that. And there
Speaker 1: was a great one on one rep to Monday in
Speaker 1: practice was the was the first day of the one
Speaker 1: on ones because it was the first day that the
Speaker 1: pads were on. I know you were watching the O
Speaker 1: line and D line. I was watching the pass catchers
Speaker 1: against the dbs, and there was a great one on
Speaker 1: one rep between Reed and Valentine, these two guys that
Speaker 1: we're talking about, two rookies from this draft class, and
Speaker 1: you know, kind of a steam route down, you know,
Speaker 1: down the hash and Valentine is running right with Reid.
Speaker 1: He's right there and at throw a little bit underthrown,
Speaker 1: but the ball was on him, and you know, Read
Speaker 1: just made the better adjustment in order to in order
Speaker 1: to make the catch. Contested catches, the two guys went
Speaker 1: crashing into the ground. The coverage was right where you
Speaker 1: want it, Valentine said afterward. The only thing you needed
Speaker 1: to do was just get his head turned around, just
Speaker 1: a you know, a tick quicker, a split second quicker,
Speaker 1: and and maybe he comes down with that ball instead
Speaker 1: of Read. But those kinds of competitive reps, man I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't ask for anything better to to
Speaker 1: to get your rookies acclimated, to see these guys in
Speaker 1: the intensity that it takes to to practice and to
Speaker 1: play at this level, and they were doing it. And
Speaker 1: to me, those are the those are the two rookies
Speaker 1: from this draft class that have that have stood out
Speaker 1: the most so far in terms of what we've seen
Speaker 1: on the practice field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if I may, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: want to dovetail into this at all, but just looking
Speaker 2: at the one on ones with the pads going on us,
Speaker 2: seeing that both the receivers and the and the dbs,
Speaker 2: the offensive line and defensive line, and a little bit
Speaker 2: I was able to watch with the blitz pick up
Speaker 2: between the linebackers and running backs.
Speaker 3: But it's always the most fun.
Speaker 2: For me as a spectator and then as observer of
Speaker 2: football is watching those drills because one, it's a little
Speaker 2: bit more simple. We understand that it's one on one.
Speaker 2: You're seeing two guys clash and one's going to appear
Speaker 2: to be victorious, although they always talk about the different
Speaker 2: things that both of these guys are working on. But two,
Speaker 2: it starts to give you an idea of what these
Speaker 2: offensive linemen and defensive linemen are going to look like
Speaker 2: in pads, and I personally came away very impressed with
Speaker 2: Zach Tom. He took the first two reps at right tackle,
Speaker 2: going up against Lucas Vans, and Vanes tried to spin
Speaker 2: move on him and then tried to bull rush him.
Speaker 2: Tom stood up to both of those techniques techniques kept
Speaker 2: his balance. He mentioned in the locker room afterwards, you know,
Speaker 2: he put on fifteen pounds this offseason, wanted to be
Speaker 2: better prepared to anchor.
Speaker 3: At that spot.
Speaker 2: I think he's right in the middle of that competition
Speaker 2: with Yoashneiman at right tackle, but also just quickly TJ.
Speaker 2: Slayton probably had the rep of the day being able
Speaker 2: to to kind of get through Josh Myers at the
Speaker 2: center position. DeVante Wyatt had a really nice first rep
Speaker 2: against John Runyon, Jake Hansen being able to block Jonathan
Speaker 2: Ford on back to back plays at center. And probably
Speaker 2: the guy that I think we're going to continue to
Speaker 2: hear a lot about is Caleb Jones. Mike and Caleb
Speaker 2: Jones repped at both right tackle and then also left
Speaker 2: tackle during the one on Ones six foot nine three
Speaker 2: and forty pounds or whatever he's going at after you
Speaker 2: know the weight loss he is about his athletic as
Speaker 2: a guys, you're gonna find at that size. I mean,
Speaker 2: I said it to you last year, Mike. In some
Speaker 2: ways he almost reminded me like of a basketball player,
Speaker 2: just with his footwork and his ability and his length
Speaker 2: to keep guys away from his body. I mean, you
Speaker 2: get the footwork down on the pad level, that down
Speaker 2: you're in the hunt man. And I think Caleb Jones
Speaker 2: since the day he got to Green Bay has put
Speaker 2: himself in a position to really compete here with this
Speaker 2: really deep offensive line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be really interesting to watch throughout
Speaker 1: the rest of this training camp and the preseason games
Speaker 1: moving forward, because it sure looks like Caleb Jones is
Speaker 1: on almost the exact same track that Yash Naiman was
Speaker 1: on a few years ago. An undrafted guy, not a
Speaker 1: whole lot of fanfare coming out, but the guy that
Speaker 1: as soon as you lay eyes on him, you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that looks like an NFL offensive lineman. Right. So there
Speaker 1: are the physical tools that are there from the beginning,
Speaker 1: but nobody willing to spend a draft pick and the Packers.
Speaker 1: They like to develop these guys, and josh Naiman's become
Speaker 1: a multi year starter now and he's in a competition
Speaker 1: with now with a draft pick in Zach Tom for
Speaker 1: a starting spot at tackle. But Caleb Jones is kind
Speaker 1: of right where yosh Neimen was a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and the Packers are going to continue to develop talent
Speaker 1: like that and see what happens. And do I expect
Speaker 1: Caleb Jones to be a starter week one in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three. No, but it's looking like he could be
Speaker 1: one of these, you know, next men up, you know
Speaker 1: if if he needs to be called upon, And that's
Speaker 1: exactly how yosh Niman got started a couple of years back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and in some ways, Mike, he's even ahead of Yash,
Speaker 2: right because when you look at Yash he got that
Speaker 2: whole twenty nineteen season on the practice squad. Caleb was
Speaker 2: there for a month and then the Packers got to
Speaker 2: the end of September and we're like, we got to
Speaker 2: get this guy on the fifty three. He did have
Speaker 2: an illness there that kind of kept him out for
Speaker 2: a time, but he was on the active roster the
Speaker 2: rest of the way and certainly. Again, I'll just quickly
Speaker 2: talk about the feet with him. I mean, people, when
Speaker 2: you see Caleb Jones in person, you're gonna be impressed
Speaker 2: by the physical stature. You're gonna be impressed by just
Speaker 2: how he looks and pads, but.
Speaker 3: Watch his feet.
Speaker 2: The guy, for a guy that was not drafted, played
Speaker 2: in Indiana, you know, didn't really have a lot of
Speaker 2: hype behind him coming out. I've just I've been so
Speaker 2: impressed by his nimbleness, and I thought, when you look
Speaker 2: at the one on one drills, especially if you don't
Speaker 2: get your pad level down you're six foot nine, you're
Speaker 2: gonna end up on your butt really fast.
Speaker 3: And this guy knows his body.
Speaker 2: And much like Yash, I think understanding, Okay, I'm six '
Speaker 2: nine sixt' seven. How can I use that to my
Speaker 2: strength and being able to defeat the opposing defensive linemen
Speaker 2: across from me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, before we get to a couple other topics,
Speaker 1: I do need to take care of Smith sponsor business
Speaker 1: here West so serious XM NFL Radio delivers hard hitting
Speaker 1: analysis and up to the minute NFL news that true
Speaker 1: football fanatics need twenty four to seven, three sixty five
Speaker 1: and at Cousin Subs. We have something for everyone like
Speaker 1: our Wisconsin Cheese curds, mac and Cheese, golden fries, and
Speaker 1: creamy shakes, all paired with your favorite sub or sub
Speaker 1: and a bowl Cousin Subs fifty years of better. All right. Well,
Speaker 1: to update some folks with regard to the depth chart,
Speaker 1: we mentioned the competition going on at right tackle between
Speaker 1: Zach Tom and Yash Niman. Zach Tom definitely taking more
Speaker 1: of the first team reps at right tackle, but it
Speaker 1: comes with a caveat in terms of understanding just where
Speaker 1: things are with the competition because David Baktiari is kind
Speaker 1: of on a part time schedule with regard to practicing.
Speaker 1: He's not practicing full time there. Some days he's missing entirely.
Speaker 1: Other times he's being rotated out. The Packers being very
Speaker 1: careful just knowing what they have in Baktari. He knows
Speaker 1: what he needs to get ready for the season, and
Speaker 1: this far in front of the season opener, he doesn't
Speaker 1: need to be out there taking forty or fifty snaps
Speaker 1: in a given practice. So Yash Naimen has been taking
Speaker 1: a lot of first team offensive line reps at left
Speaker 1: tackle when David Bakhtiari is not in there, so not
Speaker 1: quite sure exactly where the competition is at right tackle
Speaker 1: right now, even though we're seeing Zach Tom there a
Speaker 1: lot more often at safety. On the defensive side, Rudy
Speaker 1: Ford definitely has taken the majority of the first team
Speaker 1: reps alongside Darnell Savage. We have seen other guys rotate
Speaker 1: in at different times, but Rudy Ford, at least through
Speaker 1: this first week of training camp, remains the guy. And
Speaker 1: a lot of folks asking about Lucas van Ness, the
Speaker 1: first round pick at outside linebacker. We have seen him
Speaker 1: rotate in here and there across from Preston Smith with
Speaker 1: the number one defense, but I would say the majority
Speaker 1: of the snaps with the number one defense, Justin Hollins
Speaker 1: has been out that edge rusher opposite Preston Smith. Would
Speaker 1: you agree with that analysis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what they've been doing here is in the two
Speaker 2: minute they've been giving Lucas van As some opportunities to
Speaker 2: get involved there, and if you think about it, makes
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. I mean, especially once we're Shawn
Speaker 2: Gary's back, you can think of how you can play
Speaker 2: with those guys, truit Fly, you can play with those
Speaker 2: guys in those circumstances, things I don't typically have to
Speaker 2: deal with when we're in the studio, Mike, I'm sitting
Speaker 2: here having to play through it now and I'm doing
Speaker 2: the best that I can with it. But go back
Speaker 2: to twenty nineteen, right, That's how Sean Gary got introduced
Speaker 2: to this defense, was being in there in those passing
Speaker 2: down situations. You're right about Justin Hollins. He actually was
Speaker 2: in kind of a pretty even rotation as far as
Speaker 2: who is the starter with Kingsley and Nigbarre through the
Speaker 2: first few practices, but Hollins has a lot of that,
Speaker 2: you know, experience and things to fall back on, where
Speaker 2: I think Enigbarre probably ended up playing a little bit
Speaker 2: but above expectations last year as a fifth round pick
Speaker 2: and definitely during the second half of the year when
Speaker 2: they didn't have For Sean Gary, it's a full room
Speaker 2: right now, and I think there, you know, we saw
Speaker 2: that last week with Jonathan Garvin's release. I mean, they
Speaker 2: have some guys that I think they're pretty dedicated to,
Speaker 2: including you know, now Cox coming in as an undrafted
Speaker 2: free agent could potentially factor into that as well. And
Speaker 2: you know, also just quickly looking at you know, the
Speaker 2: safety situation. Where that gets so interesting to me is
Speaker 2: rudy Ford is still that number one option, but you
Speaker 2: know he's also still working at flyer on special teams.
Speaker 2: All these guys have that you know, duality to their
Speaker 2: game that they can also factor into special teams. And
Speaker 2: his gains is playing the slot, but he's also a jammer.
Speaker 2: But right, I mean like it's going to be about
Speaker 2: who prevails in both of those avenues in terms of
Speaker 2: who makes this roster. But certainly you still looking who's
Speaker 2: going to be the best fit back there for Darnell
Speaker 2: Savage and to this point, you know it remains Jonathan
Speaker 2: rudy Ford.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned special teams. One last thing before we go.
Speaker 1: We've seen two kicking periods field goal kicking periods in
Speaker 1: practice thus far. Andrews Anders Carlson, the rookie six round
Speaker 1: pick out of Auburn. He went five out of six
Speaker 1: from between forty and forty five yards in the first one,
Speaker 1: then had a rough day on Saturday. He was one
Speaker 1: out of six on actually longer kicks. I want to
Speaker 1: say it was all from you know, mid forty been
Speaker 1: to late forties, forty five and beyond, and a couple
Speaker 1: of those were fifty plus and he was kicking into
Speaker 1: the wind a rough outing. He was only one out
Speaker 1: of six. Then he did finish with making the field
Speaker 1: goal to end a chip shot field goal to end
Speaker 1: the two minute drill for the offense. So two for
Speaker 1: seven all together. And hey, it wasn't it wasn't a
Speaker 1: pretty kicking period on Saturday for Carlson. But but I
Speaker 1: said this an insider inbox, what matters now is not
Speaker 1: the fact that that happened. What matters now is what
Speaker 1: happens next. How does he bounce back from this? How
Speaker 1: does he put that behind him? What does he do
Speaker 1: going forward? As the lights are going to continue to
Speaker 1: get brighter, because not only will you know his next
Speaker 1: kicking period, everybody will be watching because of what happened
Speaker 1: on Saturday, when he you know, got into a little
Speaker 1: bit of a rut. But then you know, family night,
Speaker 1: the lights are going to go on. Then you have
Speaker 1: the preseason games and everything, there's going to be this progression.
Speaker 1: And this is a young man. You know, he kicked
Speaker 1: in SEC stadiums in front of ninety one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: people and whatnot. But still this is the NFL. He's
Speaker 1: trying to win a job. He's trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: prevent the packers from from needing to bring in any
Speaker 1: other kickers, and a lot of eyes are going to
Speaker 1: be on him here moving forward.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: And the beautiful thing about this, especially the time in
Speaker 2: which we're taping this, is by the time this actually runs,
Speaker 2: you might see it out there and Packers Universe Land.
Speaker 2: He might have went six for six because it sounds
Speaker 2: like he will be kicking again on Tuesday before we
Speaker 2: tape this. But it's gonna be the ebbs and pulls
Speaker 2: of camp, and as disappointing as I'm sure that was
Speaker 2: for Anders and everybody you know getting on a little
Speaker 2: bit of that skid on Saturday, it's about how you
Speaker 2: do respond to it, and it is about making sure
Speaker 2: that it doesn't compound.
Speaker 3: You want to build, you don't want to take away.
Speaker 2: So that's gonna be the major key for him, pad O'Donnell.
Speaker 2: You know the long snappers, that whole operation is is
Speaker 2: still moving forward and making progress. And the kid has
Speaker 2: an incredible leg. We saw throughout the off season program
Speaker 2: didn't seem like he was striking the ball the same
Speaker 2: way he was in Mondays or Saunurdays Saturdays practice. But
Speaker 2: keep in mind, again the wind was kind of a
Speaker 2: you know, he was going right up into it. So
Speaker 2: those are the adjustments you have to make, though, Mike,
Speaker 2: we talked about it for years with Mason Crosby, especially
Speaker 2: after the south end zone expansion. It is not easy
Speaker 2: to kick in lambeau Field. It is a real difficult
Speaker 2: puzzle to solve sometimes. And you know, for a guy
Speaker 2: like Carlson, who I thought struck the ball really well
Speaker 2: through the off season program, you eventually there are gonna
Speaker 2: be days when they just don't go in and seeing
Speaker 2: how the young man bounces back from that and what
Speaker 2: he takes away from experiences like that are going to
Speaker 2: be so telling as far as what his future looks
Speaker 2: like and what the rest of the summer outlook is
Speaker 2: going to be for the Packers.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Well, we will be back with another show
Speaker 1: later this week to talk about more observations and usings
Speaker 1: about practice, but for now we'll call it a rap
Speaker 1: on this edition of Packers' Unscripted. Be sure to follow
Speaker 1: all of our coverage of the team of training camp,
Speaker 1: everything going on. We've got a ton of content for
Speaker 1: you on packers dot Com for WES, I am Mike.
Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in. Everybody, We will see you
Speaker 1: next time.