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Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. What's this guy all about? As he nuts,

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Speaker 1: as he's saying, as he's somewhere in between the Car

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Speaker 1: Doctor the repair moral here is always look for the basics,

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Speaker 1: keep it simple stupid, right, like my colleague professor always said,

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Speaker 1: always go for the basics, Always go for simple. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian, the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world

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Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If

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Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the

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Speaker 1: five six. And now here's an amazing act. Here's a

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Speaker 1: tremendous act. Here's a startling act. Amazing, the greatest, spectacular, incredible, exciting,

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Speaker 1: wonderful world fame, the most unusual novel act. He is running. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's time to start your engines. And if they don't,

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor for the next two hours as we

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Speaker 1: broadcast out over these affiliates in these air waves, talking

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Speaker 1: to you about your car and its problem. So sit

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Speaker 1: down and let's talk about at eight five zero nine

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Speaker 1: or if it runs but it doesn't run right, this

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Speaker 1: We've had this conversation before you and I and I

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Speaker 1: just a nice meeting place. And I had breakfast with Tom,

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Speaker 1: like I'm talking about, you know, a movie star being president.

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Speaker 1: Well wait, that's actually been done, but you know, as

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Speaker 1: far as as far as you know, it's just a

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Speaker 1: foreign term. Car count or car counting is a process

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Speaker 1: by which some repair shops, dealership, change store, independent will

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Speaker 1: So it's basically a sales quota. Yeah, the auto industry

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Speaker 1: And he goes, I'm surprised that they don't use that

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Speaker 1: to know, you know, where do you stop? Is twelve

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Speaker 1: Because they're trying to calculate hours. How many hours a

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Speaker 1: the management classes for for the auto industry, there's an

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Speaker 1: If we can get anything to ron was. I provided

427
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Speaker 1: them with mo Park gaskets. I provided them with everything

428
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: Mopark gasket even I even provided a two of the

429
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: Ultra copper. So then that's the thing is I provided

430
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: everything bolts you need it, and he didn't use it. No,

431
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 1: he didn't use the Ultra copper. He used the gasket,

432
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: but he cut the rear one off, like the rear

433
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: gasket section. I don't know if that made it easier

434
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: to install or easier to pop on? Did he? So

435
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: he used your gaskets or he didn't? He did use

436
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: my gasket? But I'm the rear one on both sides.

437
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: He made his own with the blue um Ultra blue.

438
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: So so so all right, now I'm kind of getting

439
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: this picture. So in other words, if I were to

440
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: look at this motor, i'd see three ports are using

441
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: the mopar gasket and one ports using blue. Why would

442
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: you do that? I don't know what? Why? Why? You know? What?

443
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: Was he short? And you know now I'm just gonna

444
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: we're just we're not on radio here, Calvin. We're just

445
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: two guys sitting down having a conversation. What what What

446
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: corner was he trying to cut? What made his life easier?

447
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: Why would you do that? I don't know? That's why.

448
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean, not just some knockofstuff, but I actually the

449
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: Dodge dealership and got their gaskets that they use when

450
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: they do this repair. Well, you know, here's the here's

451
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: here's the catch all. All right, Um, you know, if

452
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: the gasket fails, now you gotta go back and have

453
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: an uncomfortable conversation with this guy about why his work,

454
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: after all these years of him doing stock car racing,

455
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: um didn't work because you've got to get it Redone.

456
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: Of course, the argument could be made that, you know,

457
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: anybody can go stock car racing. If he's been doing

458
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: it for years, how many races has he run? You know,

459
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: how successful is he? And that's a whole another you know,

460
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 1: I know a lot of dopes that are stock car

461
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: racing and I look at him and leaf, Um, you know,

462
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: that's a whole another conversation. So that, I mean I

463
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: noticed this too. I saw it on the floor. Yeah

464
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I picked up on that

465
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: right away. And you know, here's the here's here's here's

466
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: here's here's the perspective in a nutshell. Okay, you said

467
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: it right when we started this conversation. You hired this guy,

468
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: all right. I don't care whether you hired him to

469
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: do exhaust, maountifold gaskets, paint your house, or put a

470
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: roof on it. All right. You hired somebody to do

471
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: a job. You gave specific instructions and requests. You didn't

472
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: ask the guy to do something wrong. Um, if he

473
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: agreed to use your parts, which that's a whole separate conversation,

474
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: I won't have that one here, all right, But if

475
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: he agreed to use your parts, then he should have

476
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: done as you requested because you hired him, and that's basically,

477
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, that's basically what a repair order is. It

478
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: is a short term contract between myself and the customer

479
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: to repair the vehicle, all right. And if the customer

480
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: gives me specific instructions, I write them down, this is

481
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. Now. I may write them down

482
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 1: and say, hey, I'm gonna use Calvin's exhaust manifold gaskets,

483
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: and I guarantee it against workmanship, but I don't guarantee

484
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: it against the gasket failing, all right, And Calvin has

485
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: to sit there and accept that or take it somewhere else,

486
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: because he's got to realize the implications. What I don't

487
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: understand is why he did three with a more part

488
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: part and the fourth using something else that may be substandard.

489
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: I think obviously I would be definitely be paying attention

490
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: to see if it's leaking, but I would also find

491
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: out the exact manufacturer of that gasket, give them a

492
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: call and ask them, you know, what is the heat

493
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: range on this? Is this correct for this application? And

494
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: see what they are showed the two and everything. I

495
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: looked it up. It's kind of temperature and and so

496
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: waity minute, he puts silicon on. Not a gasket the

497
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: gasket maker. He used silicon gasket maker. Yeah, not not

498
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: a physical gasket for that rear sections. He made his

499
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: own gasket for that little section in the back when

500
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: he cut it off. But isn't the front half of it,

501
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: boil boy, isn't the front half of it, for lack

502
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: of a better term, a paper gasket, a cardboard gasket? Right? Yes,

503
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: why would you do that? I don't know, so you're

504
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: telling me he used he used silicon gasket maker for

505
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: the rear two ports, yep, even though the gasket was complete,

506
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: and he cut those on both sides. And I went

507
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: to pay for the job. I went to pay for

508
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: the job. It's poor workers. Well, I've provided parts and everything.

509
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: He wanted about seven dollars, which on the you know,

510
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: it's not that bad um providing parts and stuff. But

511
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: afterwards he agreed on four fifties. Okay, what did you

512
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: learn from this? Do it myself? Well or you know, um,

513
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: you know, somewhere along the way, you're gonna have to

514
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: have a relationship with a mechanic. You've got to find

515
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: a mechanic. They're out there, they're they're they're out there,

516
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: believe me. Um, you know it's because you sound like

517
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: you're young enough. I'm not no cracks, but you know

518
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna be around a while drive and I hope,

519
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to get something fixed by somebody.

520
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: You've got to have a relationship with a mechanic. And

521
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: I think that relationship with a mechanic is so paramount

522
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: at this point in in the auto industry. It's to

523
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: the point now where a new customer calls the shop.

524
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: I asked them, why are you here and how did

525
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: you find us? Because I'm learly myself. I'm learly like

526
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: your leary. You're literally of who you're going to an

527
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm leary of who's coming in because there's there's such

528
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: an issue with competency and mechanics and what customers expect. Um.

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00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sorry it happened to you, Calvin. I

530
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: I agree. I know where you're coming from. I think

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00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: the guy's wrong. I it sounds like a Rube Goldberg

532
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: of a repair. I don't know why he would do

533
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: it that way. Um, I really can't think of a reason.

534
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: If you've got the manifold off, just put a gas

535
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: in it. Uh, you know, I don't see this as

536
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: an issue. I think it's poor judgment on his part

537
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: and I think he did the job role. I would

538
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: probably if you paid for it. Did you pay for

539
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: it by cash or with a credit card? Yes? Okay,

540
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: lesson learn, kiddo. I gotta go to the Clock's gonna

541
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: take me all right. But um, I wish you well

542
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you being there as part of the audience.

543
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: I hope you. I hope you got something out of this,

544
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: and uh my condolences. Eight five zero nine zero zero.

545
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: Run in any of the Car Doctor. We are coming

546
00:29:36,240 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: back right after this every time, welcome back. Why don't

547
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: any of the car Doctor rolling along this hoturday zero

548
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: nine zero zero And by the way, coming up in

549
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks, I'm not sure when we

550
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: are going to be giving away an act you spray

551
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: one spray gun system with the paint preparation system from

552
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: three M. That's um something so that you can get involved.

553
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: We'll start doing somebody work at home. You never know,

554
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: it might be a rough winter. We had to start

555
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: painting cars in the garage. But more importantly, it is

556
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: a new type of system that three M has developed,

557
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: it's new to market, and we're proud to be able

558
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: to say that we're gonna be giving one away and

559
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: highlighting it in an upcoming interview. Are we talking about it?

560
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: Um in a very short period of time, So I'll

561
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: stick around for that, and that's in the next couple

562
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: of weeks. Right now, let's get over and talk to

563
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: Nick in Long Island with a question about a Jeep compass. Nick.

564
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help Nick? Compass?

565
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: And I've had it for about three years now. The

566
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: first year the heat worked perfectly, completely fine. The last

567
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 1: couple of years heat really hasn't done anything other than

568
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: blow lukewarm air at best. So I'm trying to tackle

569
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: it now, trying to see if I could find out

570
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: if it's anything other than the heater core and I

571
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: have to pull the dash apart. So what I've done

572
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: is I have replaced the thermostats in the vehicle. I

573
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: was told I brought it to a shop and they

574
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: thought that's what it was, UM, So I wound up

575
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: doing that on my own. Uh. I flushed the cooling system.

576
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: It looks like the core of you know, water is

577
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: flowing through it just fine. Um. So after we did

578
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: thermostats and flushed it, you know, put it all back together,

579
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: put new cooling in it, tried to burp the vehicle,

580
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, jack the front up, make sure there was

581
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: no air pockets or anything like that. Um. I've felt

582
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: the heater core hoses top and bottom, and they're both

583
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: hot to me. They both seem hot. Um, but nothing

584
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: has remedied it. It's it's still blowing lukewarm. And I'm

585
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: not quite sure where to go from here. Okay, so

586
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: let me ask you, Nick, do you have any kind

587
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 1: of a scan tool? Uh? Yeah? Does does it? Does

588
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: it read data stream? Uh? That I can't tell you.

589
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: I know I can pull engine codes from it. I

590
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: don't know if I don't think it reads data stream?

591
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: No no, check engine light on right? No? No, no,

592
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: check engine mine right now? Okay, So you know here's

593
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: a case where having a scan tool that reads data

594
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: stream pays off. All right. Um, I don't think this

595
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: is a thermostat, and I don't think I would have

596
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: gone for a thermostep for the simple reason that O

597
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: B D two would have set a fault code of

598
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: P zero or showing that engine and temperature rise time

599
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: isn't fast enough, and it becomes an issue, all right,

600
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: And and that's not that's not a given every time,

601
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: but it's just something to be aware of. So what

602
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: I'd like to see is if you could take a

603
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: scan tool, hook it up and just look at O

604
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: b D two. Tell you the truth. I look at

605
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: O b D two. If I look at ten cars

606
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: a week with check engine lights, eight or nine times

607
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: out of ten, I don't even look at manufacturer specific information.

608
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: I just go right to O b D two and

609
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: I read everything from there because it's it's it's more consistent.

610
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: The nice thing, I'll tell you what, stick around. Let

611
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 1: me pull over and take this poise and we'll we'll

612
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: finish this up when I return eight zero running. Any

613
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor coming back right after this? We

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00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: got her day car Hey, welcome back, Nat of the

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00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Nick, you're still there, sir, Yeah, okay. So

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00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: one of the nice things about O b D two,

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00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: and for those of you just tuning in, we're talking

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00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: to Nick with Compass about O b D two and

619
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: scan tools and heat um. One of the nice things

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00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: about O b D two is it's consistent. Every car

621
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: reads the same I can hook a scanner up and

622
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: go into O B D two technology on a Toyota, Afford,

623
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: a Honda, a Chrysler, anything, it's all gonna read the same.

624
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: An oxygen sensor is always an oxygen sensor. Fuel trim

625
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: is always fuel trim, and so on. I hook up

626
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: to Afford, Ford's gonna call an oxygen sensor something different

627
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: than Toyota, than Honda calls it, than Chrystler calls it.

628
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: It's it's all different terminology manufacturer specific. You're still looking

629
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: at the same data, and you're looking at a whole

630
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: bunch more, but you may be looking at more than

631
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: you need, and it gets very confusing. You have to

632
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: be well versed in every manufacturer's line in order to

633
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: be able to interpret it. That's why sometimes you'll look

634
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: up a scan tool to a car and you'll be

635
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: looking for fuel trim. I don't think Chrysler calls fuel

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Speaker 1: fuel trim long term or short term fuel trim. They've

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Speaker 1: got another name for It's been so long since I've

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Speaker 1: looked at it, I don't even remember it anymore. You

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Speaker 1: have to go back and read the books, so always

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Speaker 1: look at O B D two. That being said, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see what a scanner reports as far

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Speaker 1: as engine temper. I don't think this is a thermostat issue, either,

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Speaker 1: but I just like to be sure. All right, this

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Speaker 1: time of year, you know you're gonna find up a

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Speaker 1: RADI eat or hose is gonna be warm, not almost,

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Speaker 1: but quite to the touch where it's uncomfortable to hang

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Speaker 1: onto with a bare hand. That's a good indicator where

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Speaker 1: I think your problem is. What I would be looking

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Speaker 1: for from your description. I would back flush the heater

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Speaker 1: chord directly. I would set up a set of heater hoses.

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Speaker 1: Go to the hardware store by it. You know a

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Speaker 1: screw on hose en so you can hook the water

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Speaker 1: hose directly to it. Put the other end of a

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Speaker 1: hose into a bucket. Flush it one way, flush at

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Speaker 1: the other. Don't use a lot of water pressure. Put

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Speaker 1: some kind of a regulator valve on that hose the

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Speaker 1: limit pressure and gently flush it and see what comes

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Speaker 1: out of the core. And I bet that solves the problem.

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Speaker 1: I'm on anating in the car, Docer, she's stands super

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