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Speaker 1: Too Much Information is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to Too Much Information, the show

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Speaker 1: that brings you the secret history and little known fascinating

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Speaker 1: facts behind your favorite movies, music, TV shows, and more.

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Speaker 1: We're two guys with too much free time on our hands.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jordan run Tug and I'm Alex Tigel.

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Speaker 1: And today's episodes a tribute to a real one, the

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Speaker 1: late great Bob Saget, who passed away on January nine

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Speaker 1: of this year at the age of sixty five, far

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Speaker 1: too young. In his honor, we're gonna take a look

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Speaker 1: at the television classic Full House. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: about you, Higel, but I engaged with very little pop

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Speaker 1: culture growing up in the nineties. That was like a

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Speaker 1: weird little kid watching Nick Knight and listening to my

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Speaker 1: idea in the Belmonts. But I watched Full House all

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Speaker 1: the damn time, and Bob Saget, especially as the host

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Speaker 1: of America's Funny Song Videos, was just the definition of

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Speaker 1: cool to me. I mean, I know that probably says

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Speaker 1: more about me than it does about any of his

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Speaker 1: and uh, that show you know, it's just it really

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Speaker 1: is for everybody. It's like it's so delightfully inoffensive but

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Speaker 1: just such a pure pleasure. I really love it. I

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Speaker 1: had um the Aristocrats passed two me by like an

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Speaker 1: so that's like, after not thinking about Full House for

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Speaker 1: a decade, I had like Saget's bitten in that just

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Speaker 1: you ought to keep that energy as we journey down

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Speaker 1: the tunnel of full House. It's true, it really that

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Speaker 1: really does display his range, and he could come up

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Speaker 1: with um for anyone it hasn't seen the Aristocrats documentary,

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Speaker 1: first of all, prepared to have your visions of Danny

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Speaker 1: Tanner absolutely obliterated. Uh. It features a series of comedians

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Speaker 1: all riffing on this old vaudeville joke and they're trying

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Speaker 1: Bob Sage. It's unique comedic talents, which, as we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about over the course of this episode, we're definitely not

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Speaker 1: on display on Full House. A lot of people did

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Speaker 1: he had a he had a career, he had a

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Speaker 1: good run. Anyway, We've got a lot to get into

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Speaker 1: from John Stamos is over the top Disney collection, the

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Speaker 1: you didn't know about full House to get started with.

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Speaker 1: Full House was the brandchild of producer Jeff Franklin, who

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Speaker 1: had worked on sitcoms like la Vernon, Shirley and Bosom

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Speaker 1: and also the class like eighties high school movie Just

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Speaker 1: One of the Guys, which if you haven't seen, is

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Speaker 1: is very funny. Now. His initial pitch was very different.

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Speaker 1: It was called House of Comics, which follow the adventures

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Speaker 1: but that sounds like hell like three comedians just trying to, like,

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Speaker 1: Three of them? Is too man age Yeah, that that

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Speaker 1: you make this more like Cosby? So Jeff Franklin made

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Speaker 1: some changes. And the amazing thing is he thought that

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Speaker 1: Dads only ran three seasons, whereas Full House ran eight.

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Speaker 1: a moment, shall we. They can't get Bob Saggett. Paul

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Speaker 1: pilot with an actor called John Posey, who's only major

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Speaker 1: screen appearance of Dr Hannibal Lecter. This is years before

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Speaker 1: Dave Coulier's life. Anyway, Sage and Culier were buddies, you know.

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Speaker 1: in real life was absolutely nothing like America's Dad, which

425
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: was the character that he got tagged as basically, and

426
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: that absolute lutely filthy, pitch black sense of humor that

427
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: was such a major part of his personality because, as

428
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: he would posit himself, there was so much tragedy in

429
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: his family life. Um three years to the day before

430
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: he was born, his mother had given birth to twin

431
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: sisters who died days after birth, and then three years later,

432
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: obviously he was born and writing again in Dirty Daddy,

433
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 1: he said, is that an astrologer's wet dream or what?

434
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 1: So there's this whistling past the graveyard. Humor is such

435
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: a such a part of his personality because you know

436
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: he that wasn't the only loss that he suffered after

437
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: he's born. Growing up, he lost close family members almost

438
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: like clockwork every two years or so, two sisters, one

439
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: to a brain aneurysm and the other to the rare

440
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: autoimmune rheumatic disease scleroderma, plus four uncles and quite a

441
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: bit a bit of friends. Um, and this gave him

442
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: a morbid streak. He would say that he never felt

443
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: he would lived to be fifty years old, and it

444
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: more positively, it set the stage for him to use

445
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: comedy as a way of escaping pain. He would later write,

446
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: it was this part of my DNA that allowed me

447
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: to lose two of the most important people in my

448
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: life and push even harder to pursue a career in

449
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: making people laugh. Um. Another random l a show biz

450
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: connection is that one of his early mentors was Larry Fine,

451
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: better known as Larry of the Three Stooges. That's crazy. Yeah,

452
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: they became close when Saga was a teen. They spent

453
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: and they spent a lot of time with Fine in

454
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: a nursing home. Um, and they clashed over it. Uh sorry,

455
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: not Larry, Not not Larry Fine and Saget. Saget and

456
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: Stamos actually clashed over this. They clashed in the beginning,

457
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: but but it quickly they grew. They all three of

458
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: the main you know, the leads grew very close. I

459
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 1: think it was more early on and like the first

460
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: season when they just sensibility, you know, sensibilities towards humor

461
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: and sensibilities towards how they approached acting and everything was

462
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: the friend But they all eventually became, you know, probably

463
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: one of the tightest casts in nineties sitcom history that

464
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: I can think of. Yeah. In Stamos's eulogy for Sagitt,

465
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: you know, he said, he said he loved hard and

466
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: deep Qubob to make a joke out of hard and deep,

467
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 1: he would, he would do that during tragedies, and honestly

468
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: it would piss me off sometimes. That's how he got

469
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: through the darkness. And sadly he had a lot of

470
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: it in his life. Now that I'm dealing with him dying,

471
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: I sort of get it. And this is in the

472
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: context of the eulogy that he delivered for him, which

473
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: he you know, Saget hosted, Uh, stamos Dad's funeral through it. Um,

474
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: he helped him through divorces. They were really tight. Okay, sorry, no,

475
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: I I didn't realize that's gonna make this this segue

476
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: even more hand fested than it already was. Eventually, Stamos

477
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: and Sage bonded and they became very close, as you mentioned.

478
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: But there was someone else Stamos didn't initially appreciate early

479
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: on in the series, or should I say to people,

480
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: the Olsen twins. According to show creator Jeff Franklin and

481
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: numerous others associated with the show, the Olsen's were hired

482
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: not really by virtue of their acting talent, because I

483
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: think there was something like nine months old when the

484
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: shooting began, and not really even because of they're cuteness

485
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: either because infants are all pretty cute, but simply because

486
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: they didn't cry at the auditions. Working with kids, you know,

487
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: in films and TV show shoots is tricky because the

488
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: child labor laws, they're very strict about how much time

489
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: that these kids can spend on the set, which is

490
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: why employing twins is a pretty nice work around. You

491
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: can basically double your time on the shoot with them. Um,

492
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: I think infants could work twenty minutes at a time,

493
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: so with twins, a buys you forty. So with time

494
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: being of the essence, you don't want to waste precious

495
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: minutes trying to get these babies to stop crying. So

496
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: you want to go with babies that seem, like, you know,

497
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: a pretty chill personality and are the least likely to cry.

498
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: And Mary, Kayton Ashley apparently were the only babies that

499
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: didn't cry at the audition, so that was instrumental and

500
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: getting them their role. Unfortunately, this proved to be something

501
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: of a fake out because once filming began, I guess

502
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: they cried a lot, and they apparently cried so much

503
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: that John Stamos tried to get the twins replaced. And

504
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: which is you know in Sandy thing now? And he

505
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: admitted this years later at a Television Critics Association event

506
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: in two thousands sixteen, and he said, it's sort of

507
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: true that the Olsen twins cried a lot. It was

508
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: very difficult to get the shot, so I said, get

509
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: them out. This is actually accurate. They brought in a

510
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: couple of these are his words, unattractive redheaded kids. And

511
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: if you're listening, I'm sorry. Those are his words. We

512
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: tried that for a while and that didn't work. Producers

513
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: were like, all right, get the Olsen Twins back, and

514
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: that's the story. So the Olsen Twins stayed, but Stamos

515
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: in later years actually became instrumental in keeping them both

516
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: on the show, because as the twins got older, they

517
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: began to look more distinct from one another. The Olsens

518
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: are paternal twins, which means they don't share the exact

519
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: same genetic material, so by the time they're around six

520
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: years old, producers were concerned that the audience would be

521
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: able to tell them apart, and for a time they

522
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: considered choosing just one. Mary Kate's the one that I

523
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: hear the most often. However, by this point, the fan

524
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: base for the twins as a as a unit was huge,

525
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: and the dismissal of one would have resulted in some

526
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, big outcry. So Stay most of

527
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: all people was the one who went about for them,

528
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: insisting that they both continue to play the role. Which

529
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: which what did people say about Mary Kate? Why was

530
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: she the favorite? You know, I don't know. I apparently

531
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: when they were shooting it wasn't random what scenes they

532
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: were giving I think for I've heard multiple versions of this,

533
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: but apparently Mary Kate was better at tackling like the serious,

534
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: dramatic moments, and Ashley was the one who was better

535
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: at tackling the comedic moments and scenes in the show.

536
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: I've heard the reverse of that too, but um so

537
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: maybe that had something to do with it. Which, ever,

538
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, dramatic or comedic, whatever you want to believe,

539
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: was the one that they valued the most. Maybe that

540
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 1: was why. I'm not sure, but in any event, they

541
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: both remained on the show through to the end of

542
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: the series, and for some reason, the show was really

543
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: dedicated to preserving this illusion that they were one person,

544
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: and through almost the entire series they credited them to

545
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: Mary Kate Ashley Olson on the screen. Uh. It was

546
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: wasn't until the eighth and final season that they had

547
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: both names on there with like an emperor sand And

548
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: this is like really crazy how much they committed to

549
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: preserving the illusion that they were one person early on. Uh,

550
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: in the first seasons of the show when they were

551
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: toddlers and Mary Kayton actually were teething at different rates

552
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: and their teeth came in, you know, in different ways.

553
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: So they apparently were fitted with mini dentures for continuity,

554
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: which just feels insane to me and borderline child abuse.

555
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, maybe not, but yeah, I

556
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: mean the Alson like twins sort of whole vibe these

557
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: days seems a lot less surprising you when you realize

558
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: that they were like baby dentures. Yeah, made to wear

559
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: baby dentures. And we're, you know, worldwide millionaires before they

560
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: were ten, I mean world wide millionaires. I mean they

561
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, they really made bank on this show. I

562
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: guess when they were walking me through that. Yeah, I

563
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: think they started out fairly modestly, at like dollars in

564
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: episode I saw one source set four thousand and episode

565
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: but dred, but I see most frequently, which is not

566
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: bad considering they were mostly just gurgling. They're they're a

567
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: glorified prop basically. I mean, let's let's put you know,

568
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to really everybody for what I just said.

569
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: But um, but then show had become a big hit,

570
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: and I guess their mom had kind of made moves

571
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: to get them taken off the show, supposedly for fear

572
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: of them missing out on a you know, a normal childhood,

573
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: which which is reasonable, which is very reasonable. Then the

574
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: producers I guess up their salary tenfold to twenty five

575
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: thousand and episode and also the freedom to do endorsements

576
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: other media opportunities while still working on the show. And

577
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: apparently by the end of the show this balloon to

578
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: something like eighty thousand and episode. Uh. And this is

579
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: when they had their you know side gigs like movies

580
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: and books and other assorted you know side hustles all going.

581
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: But you know, apparently they work their asses off. I mean,

582
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: all three of the male leads on the show complained

583
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: to production staff about the number of scenes that these

584
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: little girls were in, and there were that they were

585
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: being pushed too hard, but um, the production staff not

586
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: to mention the kids. Parents also had some complaints about

587
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: the three leads because they apparently weren't always very kid

588
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: friendly on the set. Yeah. So unsurprisingly that usually came

589
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: down to sag It and his sense of his sense

590
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: of humor. Um, he would make all kinds of dirty

591
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: jokes on the set. He would swear, and he would

592
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: also act as the as an instigator. He would egg

593
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: on the other guys to act up, and he would

594
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: write in dirty Daddy, which we're gonna just gonna keep

595
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: coming back to and using the whole name every time.

596
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: I couldn't help it. The whole show for me was

597
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: like a beautiful Jekyl and Hide experience. Being silly helped

598
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: us survive a super clean cut show that at first

599
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: mostly got panned, but then in retrospect, became part of

600
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: family television humor. Following these outbursts of non family friendly humor,

601
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: producers and the parents of the kids would drag the

602
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: offending party into a conference room for a good talking to.

603
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: And there's a couple of great anecdotes here, So we'll

604
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: start off with, Uh, we'll start off with the rubber

605
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: doll standing. Yeah, I don't like where this is going,

606
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: even just from that. So in these three guys defense,

607
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: a lot of this went down when the kids weren't

608
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: actually on the set um but as we'll find out,

609
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: they were watching. A very particularly embarrassing example occurred because

610
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: Saggy was running lines with a rubber doll that was

611
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: on the set the shooting set as a stand in

612
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: for Michelle. Because of child labor laws, the kids could

613
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: only be on the set part time, So instead of

614
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: bringing the Olsen twins in For every rehearsal, the cast

615
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: used a four ft rubber stand in doll to practice

616
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: of lines. Wonder what that went for on eBay when

617
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: some kids got a whottle bit Uh, As Sage later wrote,

618
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: only adults were there a lot of crew guys around

619
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: whom I like to make laugh. What could have happened next?

620
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: So I'm throwing the doll around, pretending to do stuff

621
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: to it, quote as one would if there were no

622
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: child actors within a couple of sound stage distance, and

623
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: you were a comedian with no moral compass in front

624
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: of a crowd of people. And what I didn't know

625
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: was that the television monitors were turned on in the schoolroom,

626
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: which is where they kids would go to learn on

627
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: on set, and all of the dressing rooms and in

628
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: certain offices on the studio lot. Like I said, I

629
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: was an idiot. Dave Coolier similarly, I mean, it's really

630
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: all three of these guys. And that's what's so adorable

631
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: about this is that they were the three musketeers on

632
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: this show. But Uh, Dave Coulier told Oprah on her

633
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: where Are They Now? Segment? Uh regaled her with a

634
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: story about the three of them doing a scene pants

635
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: less one day when the kids were offset at which

636
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: you know, had to have been like a midshot or

637
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: them behind furniture or something. But at the end of

638
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: the shooting day and the crew all thought it was

639
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: hilarious because it was the nineties and humor was different

640
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: back in so they all thought this was so so

641
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: funny to have three grown men shooting a scene in

642
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: their underwear, or at least partially in their underwear. Uh.

643
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: And for a time things were going swimmingly. Everyone was

644
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: cracking up. They're having the end of the shooting day,

645
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: they're relaxing, and then all the children, actors, parents, and

646
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: the onset tutor comes storming onto the set to remind

647
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: them again. Maybe this was before the other incident, but

648
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, guys, the monitors are still on and

649
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: everyone can see you. Um, and that's not even the

650
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: weirdest or worst thing that they've that they did during

651
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: the set. Apparently, I would say that there's a quantifiable

652
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: difference between getting pantils in front of a bunch of

653
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: kids and what you're about to say. But the continue, okay, okay,

654
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: we'll split hairs over that later. Also, according to sag

655
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: it's been more dirty Daddy. The three of them were

656
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: getting tired waiting to shoot their scene for Michelle's birthday

657
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: in one episode, and just pass the time, they just

658
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: started doing whippets. They just found you know, it's a

659
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: birthday cake. See there's whipped cream in the freezer or

660
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: in the fridge. So these three middle aged men, well

661
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: I guess they were middle aged at that point. Whatever,

662
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: they're adults there. They make Hollywood money. They should not

663
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: be doing whippets, but they did. Um, and you know,

664
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: I'm doing m DMA on the set, like yeah, yeah,

665
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: I know. Like, well, I guess cocaine would be the

666
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: obvious choice. I guess. I don't know. Man, Whippets is

667
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: like that's like Central Pennsylvanias. That's not Holly, that's not

668
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: Hollywood anyway. Uh sorry Central Pennsylvania. Um. But apparently some

669
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: of these kid actors could give as good as they got. Yeah,

670
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean, for all their concerns about like shocking children,

671
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: the kids got some pretty good lines on the show too.

672
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: Like one of my favorites that I can just I

673
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: just remember we're hearing on the show was you know,

674
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: Stephanie was always sparring with with her older sister DJ's

675
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: friend Kimmy Gibbler, like you know, the annoying next to

676
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: her neighbor. One time, she overhears DJ and Kimmy talking

677
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: about horoscopes. Since Stephanie says, what's a horoscope? What is that, Kimmy?

678
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: A telescope that sees only your face? Bam, horoscope. Good line.

679
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: We're on the topic of everybody's favorite annoying next door neighbor,

680
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: Kimmy Gibbler. Uh. The actors who played her, Andrea Barber,

681
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: actually auditioned initially for the role of DJ Tanner. The

682
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: producers ultimately decided to go with kandas Cameron, but they

683
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: liked Barbara so much that they actually encouraged her to

684
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: try out for the role of this neighbor Kimmy Gibbler.

685
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: And the part was intended for basically like a one

686
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: off bit, but the producers liked her so much so

687
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: they decided to to keep her around for the entire run.

688
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: I have like a Proustian sense memory of hating her,

689
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: like as a young child who didn't articulate, who couldn't articulate,

690
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: laid or fully grasped, like what hatred was I remember

691
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: being like, what is this feeling like? I don't I

692
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: don't like her. She's really really annoying. Anyway, She's great.

693
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: She was the Prince Geoffrey of her time, the character

694
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: of people love to hate. I mean, yeah, that's necessary

695
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: the the Iago if you will. Yeah, well, I guess

696
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: my first introduction to Iago was um was in Aladdin. Good,

697
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you very much? And uh, speaking of Aladdin,

698
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: the voice of Aladdin. Scott Wenger played DJ's longtime boyfriend

699
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: Steve on this show. Do we have to pay Disney

700
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: just for mentioning Aladdin? Like? I feel almost certainly? Oh yeah,

701
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: And it's funny. There's an episode we mentioned earlier. Stamos

702
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: his favorite episode, The House Meets the Mouse, Part one,

703
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: when the cast go to Disney World and film on

704
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: location and DJ imagines Steve as a Laddin and he

705
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: comes on dress as Aladdin and does lines as Aladdin,

706
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: which is um adorable And another cute point about deej

707
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: and Steve they went the problem together in real life,

708
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: which I love. On that yeah, I like that. Um.

709
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: So that's a really great connection with a beloved, you know,

710
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: beloved nineties TV show and a beloved nineties film. I

711
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: would now like to, unfortunately, do a bit of myth

712
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: busting that is probably second only did the Atlanta's More

713
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: set story about the biggest myth about Full House, and

714
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: that is that a lot of people say, and you

715
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: see this on listicles all the time on the Internet,

716
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: that the dog that played Comment, the family golden retriever

717
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: on the show, was also the dog that played air

718
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: Bud and the film air Bud and its sequel air

719
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: Bud to Bud Harder. Um, and thank you for laughing

720
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: at that. Um, And apparently isn't technically true. Um, it

721
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: is sort of split hairs, baby. But that dog who

722
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: was used in the Airbud movies was on the set

723
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: once for an episode. I think it was in the

724
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: last season where Comment is revealed to be really good

725
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: at basketball, and so they brought this dog who could

726
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: do trick shots. His name was Buddy. Appropriate love for

727
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, air Bud to come in and do some

728
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: some basketball trick shots. Um. He died in unfortunately. He

729
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: was apparently an absurdly talented dog, much more talented than

730
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: I am. He could shoot a basketball, he could stop

731
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: soccer balls and hockey pucks and he could apparently catch baseballs,

732
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: presumably in his mouth. Um, so the dog was on

733
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: the show for one episode, but he was not the

734
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: dog that they used for comment throughout the series. So

735
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to be the bear of bad news with that.

736
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: I just want to say that Buddy was found by

737
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: his owner as a stray in Sierra Nevada in the

738
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: summer of eighty nine. His first appearance was on America's

739
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: Funniest Home Videos, which makes sense. Yeah, and he was

740
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: on David Letterman's Late Night three times super Petricks obviously,

741
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean Buddy was his his starring role,

742
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: and later he fell into drugs and no, I'm all right,

743
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's wild that he was a stray that

744
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: his owner was like, oh, this dog can play sports.

745
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: I mean, that's probably the equivalent of finding a barrel

746
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: of gold bullion. I mean, I don't know. I did

747
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 1: not look into this. I don't know anything about this guy,

748
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: this this Kevin, but I would venture to guess that

749
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: this guy saw in this dog what the guy who

750
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: got Grumpy Cat saw, which is dollar signs, just big

751
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: old dollar signs. I mean imagine being if this was

752
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: the case, the person or the family that gave away

753
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: air butt. Oh my god, Oh boy, that's someone we

754
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: got to track down. Please tweet at us abandoned air

755
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: but hashtag hashtag dirty daddy. Anyway, while we're drawing connections

756
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: between Full House and other beloved millennial franchises, this is

757
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 1: something I'm sure that everyone knew, but for some reason,

758
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: it's still just me off guard that Candice Cameron Bray,

759
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: who played DJ Tanner, is the sister of Kirk Cameron

760
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 1: from Growing Pains. Maybe it's the personal thing I always

761
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: forget that you're just too sweet. You don't really understand

762
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: the degree to which nepotism runs the entire entertainment industry.

763
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, just for some reason that they exist

764
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: in totally different TV sitcom worlds. Apparently she missed her

765
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: only episode of Full House it's a season six episode

766
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: subtraining Graduation Blues, because she went to visit her older

767
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: brother Kirk at at camp. Get to this last bit

768
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: of Candice if emeral Miscellaney. Oh yeah, but you know,

769
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 1: we talking about all the different catchphrases on the show,

770
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: and there are so many. I mean, you got it, dude,

771
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: how rude pin a Rose on your nose, have mercy

772
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: cut it out? There was so man. I think Danny

773
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: Tanner is the only character in the show that doesn't

774
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: have a big catchphrase, although I guess he has Good

775
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: Morning Center, Wake Up San Francisco, SOPs. And that was

776
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: one but Candice Cameron's uh DJ's catch raising the shows

777
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: oh my Atlanta. Apparently, like her brother Kirk, a famous

778
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: famously evangelical Christian Canvas, is also very devout, and she

779
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: reportedly came up with the phrase oh my Atlanta in

780
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: place of oh my God because she didn't want to

781
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: take the Lord's name in vain. That's the story I've read,

782
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: which seems to scan um yeh. Didn't Kirk Cameron do

783
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: all the left behind? He did all the left behind.

784
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: He also popularized the not true ducanu croco duck, croco duck.

785
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: What is that? It's you're not familiar with this? No,

786
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: he was basically trying to poke holes in the theory

787
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: of evolution. Oh right, okay, yeah, And he he said

788
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: that if it existed, we would have and he held

789
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: up a picture of this badly photoshopped monstrosity of a

790
00:42:53,200 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: crocodile and a duck combined together. Um, do you want

791
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: to take us into the greener pastor cycle? Yeah, until

792
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: less complicated? Uh Pleasures, which is the theme song. Truly

793
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: one of the all time TV theme songs. I mean,

794
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: it's incredible, but could be easily mistaken for many others.

795
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: Because you've said you do this, I also do this.

796
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: Your brain combines the Full House theme and the Family

797
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: Matters theme, and there are mashups of it online, so

798
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: we can't be the only people. But there's a good

799
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: reason for that, which is that both songs are written

800
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: and sung by the same person, Jesse Frederick. So Frederick

801
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: and his writing partner Bennett Salva came up with those songs,

802
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: and series creator Jeff Franklin, you know, probably to get

803
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: some percentage points off of this, kicked in some lyrics.

804
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: But Frederick is sort of the unsung hero of the

805
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: t G i F line up. I mean, not only

806
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: did he do Family Matters and Full House, but Step

807
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: by Step and Perfect Strangers. So that man takes up

808
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 1: a disproportionately large chunk of space in my brain. And

809
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: while we're on the opening credits, the people who were

810
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: driving over the Golden Gate Bridge, which maybe the first

811
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: time I ever saw the Golden Gate Bridge was in

812
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: the full house opening credits for me, might have been

813
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: the second It's uh, it's not even it's not even

814
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: the actual cast. They're just lookalikes, which is so funny.

815
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, and they couldn't get him to drive across

816
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: the bridge for one shot because they were in l A. Probably.

817
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: Um and while we're doing musical lightning round, well let's

818
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: let me let me just start off our musical lightning

819
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: round by talking about the only band that matters, Jesse

820
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: and the Rippers. Yeah, they were just a session band.

821
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: They were in l a bunch of l A you know,

822
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: hot players, and they all knew each other from when

823
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: Stamos was on General Hospital, because there's an episode where

824
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: his character in that show sings in a rock band.

825
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: And you know Stamos again, just a big genial nerd.

826
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: He would jam with all of these guys between rehearsals

827
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: and between tapings. And I just want you to read

828
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: this fact because I know you're a brady bunch of guys,

829
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: so go ahead. Oh yeah, you may remember that Uncle

830
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: Jesse has kicked out of the Rippers at one point

831
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: in the series due to his commitment to his family. Uh,

832
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: do you know who he's replaced by? Do tell Barry

833
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: Williams a k a. Greg Brady of The Brady Bunch,

834
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: and the band has changed their name to Barry and

835
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: the Rippers, which doesn't really have the same ring as

836
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: Jesse and the Rippers. No, it doesn't. And that's our

837
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: segue into the full house guest stars lightning round all right.

838
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god. There have been so many guests on

839
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: this show over the years, including Phillis Diller, the aforementioned

840
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: Kirk Cameron and his future wife Chelsea Noble. Jolil White

841
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: who plays Herkel from Family Matters, which is also in

842
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: the t g i F Expanded Universe. He shows so

843
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: much of this is cross promotional. Yeah, he shows up

844
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: when Stephanie gets teased for having new glasses. Danielle Fischel

845
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: also shows up from the t j F Synergy. She

846
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: plays on to Panga from Boy Meats World. Uh, there's

847
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: Scott Baio, Wayne Newton. There's Frankie Avalon and a Net Funicello.

848
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: There's Frankie Valley, Vanna White, Suzanne Summers, penn Stein, the

849
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: aforementioned Barry Williams, Mickey Rooney, and Kareem Abdul Jabbar. He

850
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: is in the episode with air Bud that we mentioned earlier.

851
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: Those are just the biggest, but the Beach Boys have

852
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: the distinction of appearing the most. I mean they're they're

853
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: there I think three times. Uh. And they weren't just

854
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: credited as guest stars. They were special guest stars was

855
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 1: how they were credited on the on the title screen,

856
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: and they were in the episode when Uncle Jesse and

857
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: Aunt Becky get married, which is fitting because there's one

858
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: thing that John Stamos loves more than Disney, It's the

859
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: Beach Boys. I mean, he goes, I love this so much.

860
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: He goes so far back, and you know, he grew

861
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: up in southern California and the Beach Boys, you know,

862
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: in the in the early mid sixties, were gods and

863
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: Stamos started playing drums as a kid, and the Beach

864
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: Boys were his idols. I mean, apparently Mike Love the

865
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: singer and the Beach Boys. His his parents lived near

866
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: Stamos growing up, and he used to kind of go

867
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: over to their house and like peek through the window

868
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: and see all Beach Boys gold records on the wall.

869
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: I mean they were just you know, his love for

870
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 1: the Beach Boys is too pure for this world. So

871
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: when he got a little older, he became friendly with

872
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: one of the Beach Boys touring guitarists, and he was

873
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: invited backstage about one of their gigs around the same

874
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: time that Stamos was in general hospital. And at this

875
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: time again he'd won an Emmy, so he was like

876
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: kind of a heart throb. So he goes backstage and

877
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: all these girls are following him back there and screaming,

878
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: and uh, Mike Love saw all the women gathered around

879
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: Stamos and he was intrigued, and he says, you know,

880
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: he asks the touring guitarist, he was stamless, friend, Who's

881
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 1: who's that guy? Oh yeah, he's on TV. The women

882
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: always follow him around like that, Oh yeah, get him

883
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: onto the stage. So they they just had John Stamos

884
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: come out to play drums on like an encore or something,

885
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: and um prior, I mean it is purely born out of,

886
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 1: like Mike Gloves, just desire to boost the band's sex

887
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: on stage. Like years. So over the years, like pre

888
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: full House, Stamos played drums and other percussion on stage

889
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: with the Beach Boys during like encores and stuff. Every

890
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: now and then I mean it kind of made sense.

891
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: I mean, the band at this stage played with two

892
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: drummers a lot on stage, and the original Beach Boys

893
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: drummer Dennis Wilson died in three so he kind of

894
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: had a spot to fill. And at this stage in

895
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: the by the late eighties, radio wasn't really playing the

896
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: Beach Boys anymore. It kind of aged out of Top forty.

897
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: So Stamos did what he could to try to get

898
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: them on the shows that he was on. He got

899
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: a guest spot for them on the sitcom that he

900
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: did before Full House with Jack Klugman, and then he

901
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: got them on Full House and in uh he appeared

902
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: in the video for Kocomo, which was you know, he

903
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 1: ended up being a huge number one song. Played congos

904
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: and steel drums on that video. I think he played

905
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: drums for them on the title track to the movie

906
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: Problem Child that the Beach Boys did, which is such

907
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: an insane jump from pet Sounds and Good Vibrations that

908
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: the mind reels um you know, and know I was

909
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: gonna say, do you know what the name of John

910
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: stamos first band was No Destiny. Oh, that's that's a

911
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: that is an eighties name right there. That's um, he

912
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: also saying, of course, I mean most Full House fans

913
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: remember him singing a version of the Beach Boys song

914
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: forever on the show. It might even been on the

915
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: wedding episode. I can't remember. And later on Stamos produced

916
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: the Beach Boys made for TV biography with Mike Love

917
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: called American Family. I have. I taped it off TV

918
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: as a kid in two thousand. I I love it.

919
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: I watched it all the time. All in all, it's

920
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: a nice dream comes true scenario for Stamos, and I

921
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: like that. Um. Jody Sweeten, who played Stephanie Tanner, had

922
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: kind of the opposite experience when Little Richard guested it

923
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: on the show. Um. Apparently he appeared on an episode

924
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 1: singing Itsy Bitsy Spider, and he's doing his Little Richard

925
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: style piano and he finishes a piano flourish and he

926
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: accidently smacked Jody Sweeten in the face. Um. And telling

927
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: a story years later, Jody Sweeten said, oh, he felt

928
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: so bad. But I'm on a fairly shortlist of people

929
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: who can say they've been slapped by Little Richard, So

930
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: thankfully she took a generous view of the situation. The

931
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: worst part is that right afterwards he went, I mean

932
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 1: you no doubt that's what really hurt. As you meditate

933
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: on that, We'll be right back with more too much

934
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: information after these messages. One of the big guests that

935
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: they apparently always wanted to get during the initial run

936
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: of the show was New Kids on the Block because

937
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: Kansas Cameron and Andrea Barbera were both you know, huge

938
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: fans their prime New Kids on the Block era, you know,

939
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: fandom age in the early nineties, but it never ended

940
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: up happening until Fuller House went into production twenty five

941
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: years later something like that, and their dream got to

942
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: come true. But but we're getting ahead of ourselves with

943
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: Fuller House. Yeah, one thing in a camp time, Jordan's

944
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: I know, I'm sorry, but there nearly wasn't a Fuller

945
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: House because there nearly wasn't even a second season of

946
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: Full House. Yeah, I mean, the original reviews were like

947
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: legendarily bad when it premiered in seven People magazine gave

948
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 1: it an f and opinions pretty much stayed that way

949
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: until I think like four or five seasons, and it

950
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: took a long time to actually get you know, critics

951
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: on board. For this show, and the show was nearly

952
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: canceled after its first season, and even after it was renewed,

953
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: Bob Saggett apparently nearly quit because he felt like the

954
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: storylines were and these are his words, too cheesy, which yeah, yeah,

955
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: He later said, I think it was in uh, what

956
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: was his name was bookago Dirty Daddy? Yeah, I believe

957
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: it was in Dirty Daddy that he said that he

958
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: just wasn't connecting with the scripts, and he didn't feel

959
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: like his performance was very good, and he just didn't

960
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: feel funny, which I mean, to be fair, to go

961
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: from being in a Richard Prior movie to full house, like, yeah,

962
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: that scans, that's a bit of a jump. His frustration

963
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: got so deep that he apparently just quit learning his lines,

964
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 1: and he later went on the credit his TV daughter

965
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: Candice Cameron Buret DJ for helping him learn to sort

966
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: of accept the role, to accept the inner Danny Tanner.

967
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: You know, she kind of said, like, you remember when

968
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: when you were as my dad telling me about the

969
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: death of our mom, because we probably should have mentioned

970
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 1: this earlier. The whole series hinges on the idea that

971
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: the Tanner, uh, you know, the mother of the Tanner

972
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: daughters was killed on a drunk driving accident, and he

973
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: can play on pathos, he can bring heart to this character.

974
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: So that kind of made sag. It realized that, you know,

975
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: there was an authenticity to what he was doing, and

976
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: he was proud of that. So he was able to

977
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, channel being real and authentic into those moments

978
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: that made him decide to to want to stay on

979
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: the show. It's weird that this show has become so

980
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: iconic and so beloved and you know got a reboot requal.

981
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: Have need to heard the term requal? Yeah, reboot requal uh,

982
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: because it seemed like he was just constantly in the crosshairs.

983
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Franklin left the show after the fifth season.

984
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: He jumped shipped to produce Hanging with Mr Cooper, which,

985
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: with admirably clear eyes, he has repeatedly cited as the

986
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: biggest your grind of his life. Wait, this is a

987
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: total unrelated tangent, but I think it's insane that I

988
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: think of this. Mark Curry, the guy who was the

989
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: lead on on Hanging with Hanging, he had some accident

990
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: and like I remember hearing about it in the late

991
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: nineties early two thousands, where like an aerosol can fell

992
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: behind like a radiator in his basement and exploded, and

993
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: and he was like down in the basement doing laundry

994
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: when this happened, and he got like fit of his

995
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: body was burned. Are you I'm reading about that? I

996
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: thought you just like, are you sure you want to

997
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: go into this? I mean, that was as much as

998
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: I was going to get into. But I think of it.

999
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: I think of it every time I see like aerosol

1000
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: bottles anywhere near, you know, a heating mechanism or an

1001
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: open flame. I think about Martin Curry, which, uh you

1002
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: know hashtag don't burn aerosol cam. Yeah. Someone takeaway from

1003
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, a bit of of of news you can

1004
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: use on this is uh you know, the more you know,

1005
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: I mean I think of this on a fairly regular basis,

1006
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: and half the last twenty years. So so there you go,

1007
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of a take on value. Yeah. Franklin

1008
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: jump ship to produce Hanging with Mr Cooper, which he

1009
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 1: says he regrets. Another fun fact about Hanging with Mr

1010
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: Cooper Alice Cooper was initially approached to create a theme

1011
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: song for that show and turned it down over scheduling conflicts.

1012
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's what it said. Yeah, well this

1013
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: is this is either what you love or hate about

1014
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: this show. Is us just being like, did you know

1015
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a trivia fractal. Yeah, the Fibonacci

1016
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: sequence of useless knowledge. Anyway, from season six onward, after

1017
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: Franklin's departure, Full House is completely different. You know, they

1018
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: get into their jumping the Shark era where a Michelle

1019
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: buys a donkey, Michelle thinks her feet are too big,

1020
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: and Franklin is quick to pin these flaws on his

1021
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: own absence, saying it suffered as it constantly tinkered with

1022
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: the romantic and professional lives of the characters. In particular,

1023
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: he resented the decision to break DJ and Steve up

1024
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: for no reason. I agree, Yeah, because she started dating um,

1025
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: he started dating some like rich guy. We tried to

1026
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: win her over by hiring Frankie Valley for some reason.

1027
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: I really remember that episode he like comes down the

1028
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: stairs of the Tanner family house singing I can't take

1029
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: my eyes off you. Yeah, of course, because that's what

1030
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: every child in the early nineties would have been wooed by,

1031
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: was a boomer rock era singing a song from fifteen

1032
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: years before they were born. I probably would have tried that.

1033
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: My what I wouldn't say you Yeah. When I was

1034
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: around the same time Full House was on and I

1035
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: was maybe six or seven, I was given a toy,

1036
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: but but a good toy, accordion, and I had a

1037
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: crush on the girl lived up the road for me,

1038
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: and I thought that I'm kind of walking marching up

1039
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: and down in front of her house playing the accordion.

1040
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: She would tell him'll look out the window and see

1041
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: me and recognize me. We never hung out outside of school.

1042
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't know why she would have any reason to

1043
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: know that I lived nearby and would be so intrigued. Um.

1044
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: The only song I could play, which is hot Cross

1045
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: Buns um, and I did it long enough though her

1046
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: mother actually came out and said, oh, she's not home,

1047
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: because she was clearly annoyed after twenty minutes of a

1048
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: seven year old boy badly playing a three notes song

1049
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: on accordion. So so I put, to get back to

1050
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: your point, I probably would have tried to hire a

1051
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: Frankie Valley two had I the means to win over

1052
00:56:53,080 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: my my seven year old crush. Sure, well, uh, I

1053
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: don't have a segue for that. Sorry, through a ball

1054
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: in the middle of your seg. No, it's incredible. So

1055
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: the show was initially supposed to have a ninth season,

1056
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Speaker 1: but that was supposed to take place on the then

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00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: new WB network. It was going to be the old

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00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: classic property that they were going to try and used

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00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: to launch this fledgling network and its lineup of shows.

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00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: It's kind of the anchor of their their life and

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00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: Stamos not about it. He didn't like how it was

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00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: being dropped and moved. He basically felt that they were

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00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: being put out to pasture. Uh and decided that the

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Speaker 1: eighth season of the show was going to be his last.

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Speaker 1: And Candice Cameron is Beer or Burrey. I think it's

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Speaker 1: bay because she's married to a hockey player, which has

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00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: to be friends Canadians, which and she met her her

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Speaker 1: husband a hockey event with Davi Cuier. Well, we got

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00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: that the one factory that I didn't find a home

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Speaker 1: for and here I'm glad I got that at there.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, Candice Cameron Burrey also planned on the eighth

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Speaker 1: season this her last, and we do sporadic guest appearances

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00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: during the ninth season. Um because DJ went off to college,

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00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: so they had the classic CoA, She's coming home to

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00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: visit um, but Cameron was actually in real life planning

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00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: on attending college after the eighth season, so the show

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00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: loses those two and basically it's the dominant start following

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00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: everyone else decides that it's time to call it quits,

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Speaker 1: and the writers follow suit, and the eighth season on

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Speaker 1: ABC is the final season of the show. There was

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Speaker 1: originally intended to be a series finale, which was, you know,

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00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: prosaically titled our very Last Show, but it never went forward.

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00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: And to illustrate the concept of linear time, DJ and

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00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: Stephanie are ten and five years old when the show began,

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00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: Michelle is nine months old, and when the show ends

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00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: they are eighteen, thirteen, and eight years old respectively. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned that the show never really got

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00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: It's like it's a big farewell moment. And I guess

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00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: when when Jeff Franklin was putting a Fuller House together,

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Speaker 1: which we'll talk more about in a minute, he kind

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00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: of meant for their premiere episode to basically be like

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00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: the farewell that full House never got. That was kind

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00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: of like that episode sort of filled with a lot

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00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 1: of winks, to the camera in jokes and stuff that.

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00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: You know, it was kind of meant to wrap up

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00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: all the loose ends that never got you know, never

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00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: got dealt with when the show kind of unceremoniously went

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00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: off the air. Um. But yeah, really it didn't kind

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Speaker 1: of have its big final moment until Fuller House came back. Um.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Franklin, I mean, you know, even though we moved

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00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: on with Hanging with Mr Cooper, uh, he never really

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Speaker 1: let go of his favorite creation. And in seen, around

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00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: the time that the Fuller House reboot was being finalized,

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00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: he actually bought the famous house in San Francisco that

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00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: was used for exterior shots on the show and in

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Speaker 1: the show. Its addresses um, two Gerard Street, which is

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00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: a fake address and I won't give the real address

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00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: for the interests of the private see the people who

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Speaker 1: lived there. But Jeff Franklin's intent was to turn this house,

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01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: you know, into a tourist attraction. Basically, he was going

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01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: to renovate it, to return the exterior to its you know,

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01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: former full House glory, and supposedly renovate the interiors so

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01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: that they matched the set of the show, just kind

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01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: of like they did with the with the Brady Bunch

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01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: House and then he was gonna have people tour it.

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Speaker 1: But according to TMZ, Franklin's plans fell through when the

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01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: neighbors caught win of it and lodge complaints because they

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Speaker 1: just didn't want all those extra tourists flooding this area.

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Speaker 1: I mean, god knows they get enough tourists as it is.

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Speaker 1: It's called the area is called Postcard Row, which is

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Speaker 1: like next to the Golden gate Bridge, is like, you know,

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Speaker 1: one of those recognizable places in San Francisco. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: with Jeff Franklin's plans and ruin, he ended up selling

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Speaker 1: the house in four five million and three hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars and Francisco real estate Baby, I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: you say that, but it's a four bedroom. It's like

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01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: thirty square feet with an English garden in the back.

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Speaker 1: It's located like the most desirable location in the most

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Speaker 1: expensive city in the country. In a way, I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: it's not more. But the new owner also got a

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01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: priceless bit of TV history. It was a cement tile

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01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: which featured the hand princes of signatures of everybody in

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01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: the cast. But in addition to having his place secured

1134
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: in TV history. There's also a famous movie tie into this.

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01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: The Full House House can be seen in Tommy Wozzo's

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01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: The Room. So that's like another million right there, right,

1137
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: And that's yeah. But Jeff Franklin has ties to another

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01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: very famous house, and um, you know, as you'll probably

1139
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: discover throughout the course of this series. I have a

1140
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: short list of of fixations and obsessions that I keep

1141
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: returning to. The Beatles are one. The sinking of the

1142
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: Titanic is another, uh, the Apollo space program. And another

1143
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: of these is the Manson murders. Um, I feel like

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01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: I should apologize for that. But Jeff Franklin creator a

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01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: Full House, one of the most wholesome TV shows in

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01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: American history. But the house where the Manson family murdered

1147
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: Charon Tate and her friends. I just I have a

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01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: hard time reconciling that fact. I mean, at least he

1149
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: didn't buy it and preserve it, right, he didn't make

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01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: it a tourist attraction like he did with the Full

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01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: House House. You're absolutely right, he uh he ended up

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01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: having it raised and he built a twenty one thousand

1153
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: square foot which I can't even imagine. The size of

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01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: twenty one square foot Mediterranean style mansion in its place,

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01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,959
Speaker 1: complete with a fifteen car garage, to swimming pools wonder

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01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: with just seventy five yards long, and has a thirty

1157
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: five ft waterfall, a lazy river, six wet bars, three waterfalls. Sorry, um,

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01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: that was a thirty five ft water slide going into

1159
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: that pool, five full wall aquariums, a private Elvis museum,

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01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: nine bedrooms, nineteen bathrooms. For some reason, even more than

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Speaker 1: a private Elbows museum. The nineteen bathrooms is what throws me.

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01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: And also a grotto, because what obscene mansion is complete

1163
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: without a grotto? Following in the grand tradition of Hugh Hefner,

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01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: I just when your house has a lazy river like

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01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: that is truly that That's what throws it for me,

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01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: Like talk about the apex of conspicuous consumption, like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's the over under on this place being absolutely hell haunted? Though,

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01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: oh it's gotta be, yeah, absolutely, And maybe he has

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01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: experienced this because Jeff Franklin just put the house for

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01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: sale for five million dollars? Can you should probably say

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01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: that like a doctor evil voice? Okay? No, you know,

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01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: real striking out with impression requests with you. But when

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Speaker 1: it sells, or I guess I should say, if it

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Speaker 1: sells for that amount, it's got to be on the

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Speaker 1: list for the most expensive homes ever sold in l A.

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Speaker 1: The current record is held by Petra ecclestone the Petrol Arriss,

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01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: who sold Aaron Spelling's former mansion in twenty nineteen for

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Speaker 1: almost a hundred and twenty million dollars. Good lord. Uh,

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01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: speaking of overselling, I should probably say, before you go

1180
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: any further, I may have oversold the Jeff Franklin House anecdote. Uh,

1181
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: he bought his house from a real estate developer who

1182
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: had already knocked down Sharon Tate's house and built his

1183
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: crazy new one. But he bought the property where the

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01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: murder occurred, So I still think it's really haunted. It's

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01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: called the Cillo the Clo Clo Drive, Yeah drive as

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01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: the address. Oh, this New York Post listing says it

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01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: only has eighteen bathrooms, so oh sorry, oh okay, we'll

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01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: knock off knock off a million for that. Well he

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01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: bought it from I think I don't know if he

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01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: bought it from. I think it was being leased before

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01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: Jeff Franklin bought it. The original house where Sharon Tate

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Speaker 1: was murdered was famously occupied by Trent, resident of Nine

1193
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: Inch Nails, who turned the living room where Sharon Tate

1194
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: was killed into a recording studio that he dubbed lip

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01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: Pig after what they wrote on the door in her

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01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: blood he was, and he recorded, Yeah, he recorded downward

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01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: spiral there, and then I guess when he moved out,

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01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: he took the door and brought it down to UH

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01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: to New Orleans where he made a studio and I

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01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: think an old funeral home if I recall that, and

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01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: I think it's called Nothing Studios, and he put the

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01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:18,959
Speaker 1: door from Sharon Tate's house on the front there. So um, yeah,

1203
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: that's that's more than you feel like knowing about Sharon

1204
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: Tate's house. But the Full House also was a connection,

1205
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: a physical connection to many other pieces of Hollywood history.

1206
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 1: The sound stage where Full House was made at Warner

1207
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: Brothers had previously been home to Wonder Woman in the seventies,

1208
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: and after Full House was canceled, was taken over by

1209
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: friends and apparently some special little mementos from the Full

1210
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: House days were left behind. Apparently, Dave Cuier used to

1211
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: shoot his underwear into the rafters of his dressing room

1212
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: and some got stuck up there because apparently the production

1213
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: of full House was like Animal House basically. And then

1214
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: when John Stamos came to guest star on Friends for

1215
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: the two thousand three episode the One with the Donor,

1216
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: he claimed that he went and found Dave's underwear still

1217
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: stuck up in the rafters of his old dressing room. Gross. Yeah, yeah,

1218
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: we we don't. That's more than you need to know

1219
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: about Dave Quiet's old underwear. Yeah, but while we're talking

1220
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: about old underwear no I have. That's not a sign.

1221
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: It's not a good segway. I should stop trying to

1222
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: do the segways into says here though I like a

1223
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: good segue, I like a I like a bad seguay,

1224
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: maybe even more. Anyway, there's no way to grace gracefully

1225
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: go into this. We should talk about the Lifetime movie

1226
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: because Lifetime is at this point famous for doing these

1227
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: unauthorized stories of stuff. They they've done, uh Saved by

1228
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: the Bell, I know they did. They've done ones on

1229
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: pop all the like teen pop phenoms and did they

1230
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: do the Alo one too? They did? Oh? Maybe? Yeah? Anyway,

1231
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: and they don't really give it about anything. The house

1232
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: looks different, characters look nothing like anyone, and it was tanked.

1233
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: It was ripped apart by critics. And I don't even

1234
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: think the cast like addressed it in the press, did they.

1235
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if it was anything, was like a tossed

1236
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: offline and a pressor because the original cast of Yeah,

1237
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: the original had no input in it. And I'm sure

1238
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: we're probably pointedly told to ignore it because this was

1239
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: around the time that Fuller House was going into production. Yeah,

1240
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: and so Fuller House kind of has its genesis and

1241
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: Stamos's repeated efforts to get a full House movie going

1242
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: at different points, and as of two thousand nine, he

1243
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: was pitching a feature length that would have had Steve

1244
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: Correll playing Danny, Tracy Morgan's Joey, and James Franco as

1245
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: the Jesse Roll, which is I guess as Jeff Franklin

1246
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: saw himself and John Stamos, John Stamos sees himself and

1247
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: James Franco. Anyway, that obviously it's like a xerox of

1248
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: a zerox of the xerox, and then it's like that

1249
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,959
Speaker 1: war whole thing. Yeah, Um, but you know, alright around

1250
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen, they start talking about doing a reboot

1251
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: or a requel, whatever you want to call that, and

1252
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: surprisingly nobody said yes to it until Netflix did. Is

1253
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: what Stamos relates um. The plot basically recycles the setup

1254
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: of the original, but now Candice Cameron has aged into

1255
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: the role of her dad. Her firefighter husband is killed,

1256
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: and she is raising her child in her childhood home

1257
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 1: with the help of her best friend Kimmy Gibbler and

1258
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: her sister Stephanie, and most of the original cast would

1259
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: come back and pick up their roles again. We will

1260
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: get to those exceptions, and Floder House actually did a

1261
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: pretty great job at recreating the show's old set from scratch. Um.

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01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: The only prop from the original series that they went

1263
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 1: with was the couch, and it was so decrepit that

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Speaker 1: it kept giving Andrew Barber allergy attacks for the first

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01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 1: few she shoots until they could clean it, which like,

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01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: they didn't clean it before they started shooting. They just

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01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: pulled it out of a back lot and we're like, here, guys,

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01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 1: go nuts. Maybe Jeff Franklin kept it as a souvenir,

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01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean, God only, or like just maybe Stamos Stamos

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Speaker 1: is Guy's memorabil a collection maybe, but god knows, maybe

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Speaker 1: it was in Michael Love's house. Uh that way, madness laws,

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Speaker 1: We're not going down that route al right. So but

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01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 1: who were the notable holdouts from Fuller House. Yes, they

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01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: got the couch, they got most of the cast, but

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Speaker 1: they did not get the Olsen twins, who, by this

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01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: point where fashion moguls, winning cf d A awards and

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01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 1: dating siblings of world leaders, didn't didn't actually marry like

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01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: Sarkozy's half brother or something. Yeah, it was like some

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01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: French banker or something like that. Um, so this should

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01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: not have been a huge surprise that they have failed

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01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: to attend the twenty fifth anniversary reunion party in Los Angeles.

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01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: Back in the publicists said that they weren't able to

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01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 1: attend given their work schedules. I'm not gonna say they

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01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 1: probably could have made time, but they probably could have

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01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: made time. Uh So, when Fuller House was announced, everyone wondered,

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01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, would Michelle be going back with their family? Um,

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01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: the Olsen twins hadn't acted together in a major project

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Speaker 1: since doing New York Minute in two thousand four, So

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Speaker 1: this is like twelve threeteen years earlier, and early discussion

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01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: seemed hopeful. I guess the head of Netflix hinted that,

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01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they could appear, but in the end

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Speaker 1: it didn't end up happening. Executive producer Bob Boyett told

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01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: People magazine. Ashley said, I've not been in front of

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01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: a camera since I was seventeen, and I don't feel

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01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: comfortable acting. And Mary Kate said I would have to

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01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 1: do it because ash doesn't want to do it and

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01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: the timing is so bad for us. So, you know,

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01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: there's a different set of priorities. There's the geography, you know,

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01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: the Olsen twins are New York based in the show

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01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: shoots in l A. And also just the age difference too.

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01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: I mean, Dave Kurier would later say, you know, there

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01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: are family members, but they come at this from a

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01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: different perspective. Like, you know, when all the adult cast

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01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: members get together and reminisced, they all like concrete memories

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01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: of this, whereas the Olson's were just babies for like

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01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: much of the early part of the show, so they

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01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 1: don't really share those same memories. It's much more of

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01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: like a distant memory for them. U It's like getting

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01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: together with all of your uncles and having them talk

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01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: about like ship that happened when you were an infant.

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01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: But I don't know. There's a point. You get to

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01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: a point in life too when you start to care

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01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: more and more about that and want to reconnect with

1314
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: those memories of things that were like a part of

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01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: your life when you were younger too. So I get

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01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: both sides. But the really weird part was apparently there

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01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: was like really really, really really tentative discussions to reach

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01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: out to the other Olson's sister, Elizabeth Olsen, who's now

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01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: you know, a superstar in her own right, which would

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01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: have been insane, And of course, you know, they, Jeff

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Speaker 1: Franklin and everybody quickly decided against it. And Elizabeth Olson

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01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: was later quoted as saying that was weird understatement, because

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01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: it was like, leave me out of this. This has

1324
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: nothing to do with me. I mean, she apparently never

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01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: even watched the show a kid and never really got

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01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: involved at all. I want to know from you, were

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01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: you from there that Were you aware there was a

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01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: third alsome? I was not aware until she started making

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01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 1: movies in like the late Marphy Marcy name Marlene or whatever. Yeah,

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01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: I was she swept under the rug? Did they just not?

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01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 1: Was it bad for the Olsen brand for there to

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01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: have been a third one? I mean, I don't know.

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01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: I mean she might have just been like significantly younger.

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01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I think maybe she wasn't that

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01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 1: much younger. But yeah, no, I think there was a

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01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: brother too. Maybe I'm wrong. That's a bridge too far.

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Speaker 1: We're not looking into that. Moving on, um, the Fuller

1338
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 1: House has made, you know, numerous references to Michelle's absence.

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01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 1: They even made some I can't even call them thinly disguise,

1340
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: some actual please to the Olsen Twins on air. On

1341
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: the show, they had written it into the script like

1342
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: come on by, it'll be fun, which is kind of devastating.

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01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 1: They were hopeful, but then in I think it was

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01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: full or House wrapped up and no Olsen Twins, So

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01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: that is uh a dream deferred. But I mean they

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01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: genuinely don't seem to give it about acting. I mean,

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01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess the fashion line that all

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01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: that stuff is super They were like the the Oscars

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01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: equivalent of like fashion awords, like they they're look like legitimate,

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01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I don't know anything about fashion so

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01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't say this, but like they they're extremely

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01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: seemed to be very well respected in that world and

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01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, obviously doing very well. But this brings us

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Speaker 1: to really my my favorite part of the show. There's

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01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: nothing that my friend Alex Hegel loves to do more

1356
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 1: than to crush your beloved childhood idols with deeply disturbing

1357
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: and dark fan theories. And I know he's got some

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01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 1: good ones this stume around, so take it away. Yeah,

1359
01:13:55,920 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: this builds on our roundup of Rograts fan theories, which

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Speaker 1: we actually cut off during the last taping because it

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01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 1: got so dark. So we'll see if we if if

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01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 1: these can scale all those heights or rather depths. But

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Speaker 1: the first one we have is that Uncle Joey is

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01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: the real dad. Um. There's a theory that posits that

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01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: Joey uproots his life and moves in with his best

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01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: friend Danny to help raise his daughter because they aren't

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01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: really Danny's daughters at all, and that Joey is the

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01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: real father. Now, people will like to put this forward

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01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: because the daughters have blonde hair, which is a recessive gene.

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Speaker 1: Danny is a brunette, but Joey is have brown hair

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01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: does that I don't know anything about genetics water, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I remember doing Punnett squares in high

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01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: school and that is the extent to which my knowledge

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01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: of genetics uh goes um. But the to me, you're

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01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 1: missing the forest for the trees of this theory, because

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01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 1: the real nugget around this theory is that Danny and

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01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 1: Jesse are lovers and Jesse's sir, Pamela Tanner, is in

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01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: on the ruse married Danny as his beard because he

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01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: was worried that their homosexual relationship would hurt his broadcast career,

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01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: even though it's in San Francisco. This was the late eighties,

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01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: So then Pamela in this world had a relationship with Joey,

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01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 1: who was the father of all three Tanner girls, and Pamela,

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01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: I think it's what he's saying was, you know that

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01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: the mother who was killed by a drunk driver prior

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01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: to the show beginning, So that's also yes, yes. So

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01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 1: moving on, the next theory is Michelle doesn't exist, which

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01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: is a classic one of the fan theories. It's a

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01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: classic Rubrick. The theory posits that Danny invented an imaginary

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01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: daughter to deal with the grief he experience after losing

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01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 1: his wife, and that's why she isn't present in the

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01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: Fuller House reboot. So the YouTube channel full House without

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01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 1: Michelle has made a number of videos that has the

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01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: youngest Tanner edited out to prove the point Allah Garfield

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01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: without Garfield and so without Michelle in the scenes, it's

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01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 1: very clear that Danny is having an emotional crisis, although

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01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: it's not clear why his family and friends would go

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01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 1: along with this whole concept. Maybe it's like you eversey

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01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 1: Shutter Island, where they like set up an elaborate, like

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01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: an elaborate faux murder mystery as part of one patients therapy. So,

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01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe maybe Dennis Lahane, who wrote Shutter

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01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: Island also wrote for Fuller House. Ah, that's a grave

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01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: disservice to Dennis Lane. Anyway, moving on, maybe my favorite

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01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: out of these the Tanners are in purgatory, which we

1404
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: could just stop there. That's it, that's all you get. So,

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01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 1: so this theory says that Pamela Tanner, Danny's wife, canonically

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01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: dead in the in the actual show lineage. In this theory,

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01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 1: she's the only person who survived the car accident and

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01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: the The rest of the family are stuck in purgatory,

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01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: which happens to take the form of an upper middle

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01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: class San Francisco row home on postcard row Purgatory it

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01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 1: could be San Francisco h Meanwhile, Michelle is secretly a

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01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: demonic entity who brought them together and keeps them trapped there.

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01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: She's always the one who brings people back into the

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01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: house and prevents them from moving to paradise. She loves

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01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 1: convincing Jesse to stay because she's sick. So why are

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01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: Danny's potential love interests always disappearing? I'm glad you asked,

1417
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 1: because they could help him potentially move on from Pam,

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01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: allowing him to find the piece he needs to heaven,

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01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: and Michelle cannot allow for that to happen. Much like

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01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: the Shining and Hotel California, no one ever manages to

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01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: leave the home except for Michelle, who isn't present in

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01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 1: the Netflix reboot, DJ remains. Jesse never moves out. They

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01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: are stuck there for eternity. So yeah, waiting for It's

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01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 1: waiting for Michelle's anner the great loss Beckett play oh Man,

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01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: So obviously we are taping this in the fallout from

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01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: Bob Saget's untimely death, and I don't think we could

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01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 1: use anything better to go out on this than what

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01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: his friend John Stamos said about him at his funeral.

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01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna go ahead and read a chunk

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01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: of that um. He says. The worldwide ocean of love

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01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: for Bob has been unbelievable. Though it's been hard for

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01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: me to look at the tributes, stories magazine covers, millions

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01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: of social media posts, I feel everyone out there is

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01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: getting it right, saying the perfect thing, remembering Bob in

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01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 1: these remarkable ways, he says. I've spent days refusing to

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01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 1: let him go, but now I'm starting to realize I

1437
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: don't have to. I don't have to say goodbye because

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01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 1: he's never leaving my heart, and I will continue to

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01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: talk to him every day and let him know what

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01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: he means to me. So I know this show mean

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01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,879
Speaker 1: a lot to you, Jordans, and growing up, it's obviously

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01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: meant a lot to a lot of people. And I

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01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: hope that regardless of all the stories of Dave Coolier's

1444
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: farting and Bob Saget's memoir being called Dirty Daddy, I

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01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: hope any of this helps people get a little bit

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01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: closer to a show that gave them so much happiness.

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01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I gotta. I got a lot of joy

1448
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: revisiting all this stuff and a lot of fun memories

1449
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: and a lot of things that I did not know

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01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: about this show that, as you said, did mean a

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01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 1: lot to me. Uh. Sending good energy to Bob Saget's

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01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 1: family and of course to the man himself wherever he is. Uh.

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01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: May he live long in syndication. Uh he will make

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01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: us laugh as clips of his stand up are amazing

1455
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 1: and hilarious. I know he was very active in raising

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01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,639
Speaker 1: money for Sclera dura, which is the disease that took

1457
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: the life of his sister. I know for anyone listening,

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01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: I know that sounds like from a lot of tributes

1459
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,600
Speaker 1: I've read about him, that would mean a lot to

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01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: him to check out some of those charities to uh

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01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: that raises money for that And yes, God bless this

1462
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: fantastic show. Yeah, long may he rain. Well. I think

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01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,480
Speaker 1: that's about it for this episode of Too Much Information.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. My name is

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Speaker 1: Jordan Runt Talk. I'm Alex Heigel. See you next time.

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Speaker 1: Too Much Information was a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: The show's executive producers are Noel Brown and Jordan run Talk.

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Speaker 1: The supervising producer is Mike John's. The show was researched, written,

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Speaker 1: and hosted by Jordan Runtalg and Alex Heigel, with original

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