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Speaker 1: Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us as we fight

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Speaker 1: the battle truth and justice across the fruited Plains. I

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Speaker 1: am Clay Travis. He is buck Sexton. I am up

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. For the next couple of days.

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Speaker 1: We've got several senators who will be swinging by in

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Speaker 1: person to talk with all of you, including our good

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Speaker 1: friend Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, who will join us

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Speaker 1: at one point thirty here in the DC studio, Bill

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Speaker 1: Haggerty of Tennessee in the third hour of the program,

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Speaker 1: both in person. We'll haverow tomorrow some more good guests

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Speaker 1: in person. Buck is down in Miami. A couple of

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Speaker 1: things that are worth hitting as we begin the show.

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Speaker 1: Iron's president dies in a helicopter crash. Pretty crazy the

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Speaker 1: way that that story played out. We'll see if there

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Speaker 1: ends up being any sort of nefarious allegations about how

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Speaker 1: that happened, but so far it appears that the helicopter

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Speaker 1: went down in awful weather conditions. So we'll also the

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Speaker 1: foreign minister. So yeah, I mean, this is like the

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Speaker 1: president and the Secretary of State equivalent in Iran dead

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Speaker 1: in a helicopter press So do you think you've flown

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Speaker 1: a lot in helicopters, and certainly for anybody out there

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Speaker 1: who has flown in helicopters, you always hear that they're

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Speaker 1: way more dangerous than an airplane would be. Do you

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Speaker 1: when you hear this, buck, does your antennae as a

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Speaker 1: former CIA person go up and you think there's something

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Speaker 1: more to this than just a helicopter accident? Or is

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Speaker 1: your inclination that this would be such a major thing

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Speaker 1: to attempt to do as you just mentioned President and

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State effectively both going down in the same helicopter,

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Speaker 1: that this would be hard even too aggressive for someone

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Speaker 1: who is an anti Iranian actor to even attempt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that this is a function of the

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Speaker 2: Iranian government is incompetent. There have been sanctions for a

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Speaker 2: long time that make it harder for them to get

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Speaker 2: good aviation equipment of all kinds. Just keep that in mind.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they let me look at their military. The

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Speaker 2: stuff that they're generally operating with is crappy. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you told me that I had to get up,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's one thing to get up in a

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Speaker 2: US military blackhawk, you've got high level training, the best

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Speaker 2: technology you're going to get up in an Iranian government helicopter.

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Speaker 2: I mean, good luck and this is just I think,

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Speaker 2: horrible luck for the Iranian regime, good luck for the

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Speaker 3: So there's that, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, people could talk about poetic justice and all

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Speaker 2: the rest of it, but I don't see this as

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Speaker 2: there's no basis to believe that it is sabotage. There's

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Speaker 2: plenty of basis to believe that the Iranians can't fly

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Speaker 2: people out there who are wondering the Ayatola is still

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Speaker 3: He's eighty five years old.

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Speaker 1: But this was a guy that many people had thought

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Speaker 1: old the Iranian president who died, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: Iranians celebrated his death because he's considered the butcher of Iran,

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Speaker 1: because he has been so aggressive in stifling any kind

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Speaker 1: of Iranian people. So there were some videos that were

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Speaker 1: Iranian people celebrating this guy's death, So that occurred out there.

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Speaker 1: I'll mention you discussed the dangers of helicopters. I think

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Speaker 1: I've mentioned this on the show if I haven't before.

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Speaker 1: My uncle who served during Vietnam Buck his job was,

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Speaker 1: little bit like in the skydiving community. You always pack

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Speaker 2: Okay, helicopter gunman by the way, which you know, or

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Speaker 2: it's terrifying to think about, honestly, when you contemplate you're

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Speaker 2: you can't see very much oftentimes not great optics, and

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Speaker 2: you're making a lot of noise and everybody knows that

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Speaker 2: that are out there that we're going to dive into.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned the Harvard Harris poll. Trump up six. I

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Speaker 2: believe it's the biggest lead he's ever had. In his

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Speaker 2: political career in that Harvard Harris poll. We will discuss

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Speaker 2: but buck.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Michael Cohen's cross examination continues, and Todd Blanche,

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Speaker 1: the Trump defense attorney, is absolutely eviscerating him on the stand.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure again, we talked a lot about this

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Speaker 1: law here. But if there are, we at least have

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Speaker 1: one situation where we have finally proved that a crime

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Speaker 1: did take place. Michael Cohen admits on the witness stand

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Speaker 1: in the last hour or so that he stole thirty

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Speaker 1: We already know that he is a felon. Here is

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Speaker 1: cut nineteen, MSNBC having to tell their audience, oh, the

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Speaker 4: Listen, let me read for you the exchange reteam Todd

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Speaker 4: Blanche and Michael Cohen. So you only gave him twenty

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Speaker 4: thousand dollars and you took thirty thousand dollars, Blanch, you

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Speaker 4: stole from the Trump organization. Right, Cohen says, yes, Sir,

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Speaker 4: Blanche goes on later on he says, you did steal

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Speaker 4: And he says, yes, sir, so again that is breaking

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Speaker 4: that Michael Cohen actually paid Rentfedge. And this goes back

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Speaker 4: to Hosea, what you were just talking about in this

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Speaker 4: organization an individual who were for Redfinch to collect this

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Speaker 4: so you stole from the Trump organization, correct? And Michael

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Speaker 4: Cohen says yes, correct.

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Speaker 1: Buck Okay, I mean for the star witness to admit

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Speaker 1: on the witness stand that he is, in addition to

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Speaker 1: all the other lies that he has told, that he

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Speaker 1: directly stole from the Trump organization, I don't see how

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Speaker 1: any juror can consider him to be remotely trustworthy on

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Speaker 3: This whole case is collapsing.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, Clay, Yes, it should it should collapse.

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Speaker 2: It also should have been thrown out by the judge.

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Speaker 2: It also should never have been brought. It also is insane, right,

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Speaker 2: New York City, it is really it. I think in

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Speaker 2: essence becomes an extra judicial process because it's all about

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Speaker 3: It has been up to this point.

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Speaker 2: The prosecutors and judges and Judge Murchand have shown us

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Speaker 2: that and a normal circumstance, in normal order, a normal trial.

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Speaker 2: If your star witness and no one disagrees that he

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Speaker 2: is the you could not make this case without Michael Cohen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if this was if this was a murder,

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Speaker 2: it's the opposite of a murder.

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Speaker 3: It's a bank records like dispute.

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Speaker 2: The whole thing, I mean, our business records dispute, the

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Speaker 2: whole thing is absolutely absurd. But without Michael Cohen, there

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Speaker 2: is no case. And if you had any other legal

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Speaker 2: proceeding in Clay, correct me if I'm wrong or you.

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Speaker 3: Disagree with this.

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Speaker 2: If your star witness, without whom there wouldn't even be

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Speaker 2: in this trial, a proven and admitted serial liar in

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Speaker 2: other circumstances, a convicted felon, a disbarred lawyer, and he

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Speaker 2: of like a father figure. I think the case is gone, right,

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Speaker 2: I think it's all over. But I don't think this

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Speaker 1: This is why the federal government chose not to bring

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Speaker 1: we don't have a strong enough case, is exactly what

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Speaker 1: we're seeing take place with Michael Cohen right now. And

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Speaker 1: Michael Cohen has tried to buck portray himself as a victim.

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Speaker 1: When we come back in a couple of minutes. Here,

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Speaker 1: I want to run through for you the amount of

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Speaker 1: based on his proximity to Donald Trump. The dollar figures,

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Speaker 1: the first place. The amount that Michael Cohen was making,

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Speaker 1: and your jaw is gonna all drop, and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: somehow a victim. He cashed in off this proximity to

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Speaker 1: here in a moment when we come back. I'm live

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Speaker 1: in DC. Buck down in Miami. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: of great guests headed your way, and I want to

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Speaker 2: Second Hour Clay and Buck kicks off now. Over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden spoke at Morehouse College, a historically black college.

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Speaker 1: And that is the story that I would love to

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Speaker 7: there's a national effort to ban books, not to write history,

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Speaker 7: but to a race history. They don't see you in

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Speaker 7: the future of America. But they're wrong. To me, we

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Speaker 7: make history not a racist all right.

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Speaker 2: Two things, The book ban is a lie. There's no

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Speaker 2: banning of books insofar as you also, you know, don't

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Speaker 2: have adult films being shown in high school and I mean,

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Speaker 2: like you know, triple X films being shown to high

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Speaker 2: school kids or whatever. Everyone understands that's wrong. Why would

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Speaker 2: you show triple X books if you will? Why would

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Speaker 2: you show pornographic material to grammar school age kids, which

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Speaker 2: they do in these schools as part of the LGBTQIA

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Speaker 2: plus agenda, they do it. Okay, it happens. We've seen

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Speaker 2: the proof. Remember Ron DeSantis at the press conference in

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Speaker 2: flores held up a book in a school library for

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Speaker 2: like fourth graders and they had to blur the images. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So is not showing pornography to children book banning or

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Speaker 2: is it just exercising basic editorial judgment? No conservative has

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Speaker 2: ever said this book needs to be banned from publication forever.

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Speaker 2: The left says that you know about things like Shakespeare,

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Speaker 2: then the other one clay erasing history, not politicizing history

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Speaker 2: with contemporary political narratives, and then shoehorning history into that.

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Speaker 2: In the case of teaching critical race theory, for example,

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Speaker 2: is not erasing history, it's just not allowing propaganda.

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Speaker 3: But is Joe Biden? Is he too stupid?

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Speaker 2: Or does he not care that he's lying. I think

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Speaker 2: he's I actually think he's too stupid. I think he's

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Speaker 2: a moron. I actually I've always thought Joe Biden's an idiot.

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Speaker 2: This is the question that I asked the other day.

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Speaker 2: Is and we need to play a cut and we

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Speaker 2: come back and we will of Biden and his brain

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Speaker 2: turning into mush. I don't think he was ever very smart.

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Speaker 2: I think he got the most important job in his

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Speaker 2: life twenty five years after he would have been good

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Speaker 2: at it. And that's scary and sad as you think

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Speaker 2: about it. And also we're going to be joined by

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Speaker 2: Senator Ron Johnson, who has just rolled into the DC

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Speaker 2: studio in Wisconsin, battleground state. We love Senator Johnson. We'll

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Speaker 2: start to talk with him and maybe ask him this question.

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Speaker 2: He was right on everything with COVID and the good

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Speaker 2: six year term that he won in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 6: Learn and laugh weekdays with Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us as we are rolling

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Speaker 1: through the Monday edition of the program. I am in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. Buck is in Miami. We are joined now

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Speaker 1: in studio by a guy that knows a little bit

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Speaker 1: about battlegrounds and how tough it is to win in

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Speaker 1: a battleground, Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. He's going to

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Speaker 1: be with us next segment. But I wanted you to

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Speaker 1: be able to hear this because a lot of stories

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Speaker 1: coming out, Senator about what's going on with the COVID situation,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of the things that you and I

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Speaker 1: and Buck said for a long time turning out to

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Speaker 1: be even more true now that you got the gain

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Speaker 1: of funk, the fact that our taxpayer dollars helped to

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Speaker 1: fund it, everything else, But I wanted to play this

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Speaker 1: cut for you, Buck. I don't know if you've heard

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Speaker 1: this either. This was Biden, I believe, earlier today, talking

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Speaker 1: about how he was vice president during COVID and Barack

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Speaker 1: Obama sent him to Detroit to try to help.

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Speaker 7: Listen to this cut, And when I was vice president,

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Speaker 7: things were kind of bad during the pandemic, and what

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Speaker 7: happened was Rock said to me, go to Detroit and

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Speaker 7: help fix it. Well, poor Mary, he spend more time

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Speaker 7: with me than he ever thought.

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Speaker 1: He's going to have to Senator Johnson, I'll get your

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Speaker 1: read and then I want to get Bucks read on this.

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Speaker 1: For him to be saying he was vice president during

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Speaker 1: COVID and got sent to Detroit to help solve it,

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Speaker 1: you've known, I imagine Joe Biden for some time. What's

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Speaker 1: going on here? Is this dementia? Like, how do you

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Speaker 1: even have that said?

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Speaker 3: It's delusional? I mean, what else is it is? I

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Speaker 3: don't even understand what he was trying to say.

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Speaker 8: He's just completely making it up. No, that is I

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Speaker 8: mean so much about Joe Biden is completely is troubling.

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Speaker 8: I've said he was unfit for office obviously before the

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty election because of our investigation to Hunter Biden,

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Speaker 8: but every day that goes by becomes more obviously he

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Speaker 8: is suffering mentally significantly, which is again why last summer

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Speaker 8: I was on your show. Yeah, I've made the same

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Speaker 8: I have a real hard time believing that he's gonna

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Speaker 8: be their nominee. I know it's difficult for them, and

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Speaker 8: I know you guys are somewhat split on that probably

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Speaker 8: got some bets out, but I just have.

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Speaker 3: A hard time thinking he's actually been the nominee.

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Speaker 1: Buck That feels like dementia to me, because there's no

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Speaker 1: way he could possibly think that he was vice president

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Speaker 1: during that he got sent to Detroit to so I

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Speaker 1: don't even know what he's trying to say there.

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Speaker 2: He's having a Biden moment. He's had plenty of them.

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Speaker 2: Senator Johnson, I'm surprised you're still You're still thinking they

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Speaker 2: got some other Plan B in the background. You might

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Speaker 2: be buying me some beer and brats when we go

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Speaker 2: up to Wisconsin, because I'm telling you, if they had

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Speaker 2: a Plan B, they would have exercised it already. They

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Speaker 2: recognized Biden is very weak, but everyone recognized I think

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Speaker 2: they he's he's weak on these issues, and it just

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Speaker 2: always gets covered as he misspoke. He's tired, he's doing

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Speaker 2: a lot all of this stuff. So I don't think

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Speaker 2: that it really I don't think it really hits home.

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Speaker 2: And Sara, I'm wondering what you think about this. If

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Speaker 2: Biden just shows up at this June debate in a

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Speaker 2: month and is vaguely coherent and does not collapse on stage,

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Speaker 2: they're going to say it's a victory.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely like to stay the union. But I love Trump

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Speaker 8: saying that you need to give him a drug chest. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: we've been saying that on this show.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing to be wrong on a policy, but

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Speaker 1: I mean to say that he was present vice president

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Speaker 1: during COVID and got sent to Detroit to try to

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Speaker 1: solve it by President Obama. I can't to clean that

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Speaker 1: up for their team. And by the way, to be fair,

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Speaker 1: that was this weekend. I thought it was today. That

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Speaker 1: was this weekend. I don't even know what he could

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Speaker 1: be attempting to say. Is he talking about H one

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Speaker 1: N one? I mean, I just I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what his mind is trying to say there that.

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Speaker 8: Would be the only out because they did have H

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Speaker 8: one N one and they mishandled that one as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: you know, fear monger, the same things they're trying to

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Speaker 8: do now with the disease X. But no, it's just

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Speaker 8: illusional and we know we know he is diminishmentally, no

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Speaker 8: doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: Senator come back, Yeah, but I was just gonna say,

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Speaker 2: and when we come back, we want to dive into

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin because the battleground state absolutely essential. You know, the

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Speaker 2: terrain there as well as anyone. So Clay, let's dive

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Speaker 2: into that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to figure out what has to happen

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Speaker 1: to not only win the Senate race, but more importantly

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Speaker 1: in terms of the national picture. It's looking like whatever

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Speaker 1: happens in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, Biden's going to have

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Speaker 1: to sweep all three based on the most recent polling.

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Speaker 3: Can he do it? What needs to happen to stop

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Bucket could determine the well

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Speaker 2: future of the Senate and maybe even future the presidency

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Speaker 2: in some way. Wisconsin is a top battleground state and

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Speaker 2: we have the Senator from Wisconsin. Ron Johnson with us

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Speaker 2: now to talk about that and more. Senator, thanks for

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Speaker 2: staying with us through the break. Appreciate you. Let's actually start,

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Speaker 2: if I can, with this. The White House is pressing

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Speaker 2: Senate Democrats to support border security bill. I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: this and I'm saying, hold on, this is news from

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Speaker 2: from today from now. I thought this went away a

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Speaker 2: few weeks ago. Why is Biden trying to beat this

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Speaker 2: drum once again on the border when we know his

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Speaker 2: border is a disaster.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's why, because the border is a disaster. And

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Speaker 8: you know, unfortunately McConnell in negotiating that awful, awful bill

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Speaker 8: did give Democrats fairmount cover and they're using it. So

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Speaker 8: I personally think it's a strategic air in their part,

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Speaker 8: because if they do bring the bill back up for

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Speaker 8: the Senate, we're gonna have a lot more time this

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Speaker 8: time round to just describe exactly how awful that bill was,

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Speaker 8: particularly using Chuck Schreamer's quote, you know, we had all collapsed.

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Speaker 8: You know, he was quoted in political saying we are

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Speaker 8: playing chess, they're playing checkers, and we got to Ukraine bill.

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Speaker 8: Then he went on to say, and we're in a

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Speaker 8: lot better shape on the border than we were three

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Speaker 8: months ago. So first of all, if you're actually negotiating

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Speaker 8: good shape, would you rub in negotiating partner's nose and

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Speaker 8: the fact that they failed. And secondly, if you really

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Speaker 8: want to secure the border, suppose you're doing this bill

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Speaker 8: to do so, you don't get the bill, and now

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Speaker 8: you're claiming you're better off on the border. It just

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Speaker 8: proves all Schumer, all the democrafts were looking for was

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Speaker 8: political cover. Unfortunately McConnell gave them some. But the American

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Speaker 8: people realize this is a disaster. Hopefully they realize that

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Speaker 8: Biden has all the authority he needs to secure the border.

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Speaker 8: Republicans have been happy to strengthen that authority. What we

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Speaker 8: were looking for in the Republican conference, and this was

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Speaker 8: the breach of McConnell's leadership, is all we were looking

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Speaker 8: for was an enforcement mechanism to force Biden to use

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Speaker 8: the authority he had. Again, we just strengthened it. But

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Speaker 8: we weren't looking for an immigration bill. Were certainly looking

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Speaker 8: to codify four or five thousand people a day and

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Speaker 8: weaken a presidential authority. That that's the one part that

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Speaker 8: has not talked about enough that four thousand discretionary threshold.

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Speaker 8: You know, four thousand migrants today the president had discretion,

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Speaker 8: it implies the president didn't have the authority, So you're

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Speaker 8: basically codifying the fact that Congress.

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Speaker 3: Didn't think he had that authority.

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Speaker 8: And then even worse, they take that discretion away after

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Speaker 8: three years, So you would have dramatically weakened a president

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Speaker 8: who wants to here the board his authority to do so.

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Speaker 1: You know Wisconsin, and we got Senator Ron Johnson with

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Speaker 1: us here in the DC studio for Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 1: You know Wisconsin better than anybody. You've won a lot

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Speaker 1: of tough races. We're going to be up for the

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Speaker 1: Republican National Convention in Milwaukee. We'll talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: more about that here with you in a moment. What

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Speaker 1: are you seeing on the ground, big Senate race, obviously

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Speaker 1: the presidential race. Trump won Wisconsin by a fingernail in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. He lost Wisconsin by a fingernail in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: What makes the difference to you to putting Wisconsin into

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Speaker 1: the Republican camp is if that happens, Trump's going to

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Speaker 1: be the president of twenty twenty four, You're going to

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Speaker 1: be in the majority in the Senate. What needs to happen?

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Speaker 1: What are you telling the team? What are you seeing?

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Speaker 8: Well, what I'm seeing is that Democrats know that it's

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Speaker 8: going to be a tough race for them, which is

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Speaker 8: why Biden and Harris have been in the state a lot,

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Speaker 8: primarily talking about abortion. So they are desperate to turn

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Speaker 8: the election Wisconsin all about the abortion issue, which they've

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Speaker 8: done very effectively. I think it's private cost us the

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Speaker 8: governor's race in twenty twenty two, costs us the Wisconsin's

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Speaker 8: Supreme Court.

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Speaker 3: They're very effective.

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Speaker 8: It's scaring Wisconsin nice that the Republics are going to

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Speaker 8: take away their abortion rights. And what is amazing means

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Speaker 8: to cover the mainstream media gives them. They refuse to

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Speaker 8: report on the fact that it is Democrats that have

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Speaker 8: the extreme position on abortion, abortion up to the moment

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Speaker 8: of birth, whereas Republicans this Assembly passed a bill that

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Speaker 8: would have sent it to the voters. They are referendum

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Speaker 8: on protecting life after fourteen weeks, which is where most

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Speaker 8: of the American public truly is. I mean, they most

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Speaker 8: do want a woman to be able to make that decision.

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Speaker 8: Up to a point, and the point is generally about

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Speaker 8: fourteen weeks. About ninety percent of abortions occur before that.

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Speaker 8: So you know, the press always reports that Republics want

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Speaker 8: to ban abortion. Now listen, there's part of our party

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Speaker 8: that wants to absolutely ban I think most of us

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Speaker 8: would like to not ever see abortions, but that's not

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Speaker 8: three houry situation. So in supporting like a twenty week

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Speaker 8: or fifteen week or fourteen or six week, I mean,

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Speaker 8: you can see the fact that it's some up to

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Speaker 8: some point that's going to be a woman to signing

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Speaker 8: that make that decision. But at some point society has

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Speaker 8: responsibility to protect life. And so from my standpoint, it's

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Speaker 8: not about banning abortion. It's about protecting life after a

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Speaker 8: certain point. And it's baking out the way the media

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Speaker 8: reports though it's Republicans want to ban abortion, and they

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Speaker 8: are completely signed on the fact that Democrats would allow infanticide,

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Speaker 8: which is basically what happens. So, I mean, I point

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Speaker 8: this out all the time in press confases in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 8: They will never point out they'll never mention that when

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Speaker 8: I say it's Democrats have extreme position on abortion because

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Speaker 8: they want to cover for him.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Senator you're

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Speaker 2: hopefully soon to be colleague, Eric Huvedy has been on

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Speaker 2: with us a number of times against Senator Tammy Baldwin. Right,

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Speaker 2: He's he's the one who is trying to try to

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Speaker 2: defeed her for that seat. She has held it for

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Speaker 2: a few decades now, right, I mean she has been

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Speaker 2: in politics her entire life. What is the state of

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Speaker 2: the Wisconsin Democrat Party machinery? I mean, how can they

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Speaker 2: keep some pretty unimpressive people. I mean they look at

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Speaker 2: look at Senator the senator they have on the Democrats side,

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Speaker 2: Look at the who's your governor right now?

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Speaker 3: I assume he's a Democrat Leavers?

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Speaker 2: How are they able to get these kinds of a

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Speaker 2: very unimpressive people in these positions in Wisconsin? I mean,

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Speaker 2: what what is it that the Democrats are doing well?

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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, you know, how what do you have

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Speaker 2: to know to be able to beat this machine they

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Speaker 2: have in the state of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 8: Again, they have the media in their back pocket. Okay,

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Speaker 8: but I remember Senator to me always used to describe

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Speaker 8: Pennsylvania as Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama in between. And

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Speaker 8: you know, I think a lot of states are like that.

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Speaker 8: They've got we've got our metropolitan areas that are heavily blue,

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Speaker 8: and you've got you know, red counties, red cities throughout

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Speaker 8: the state. So it's just a lot easier for Democrats

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Speaker 8: to go mine votes in Madison, Milwaukee based on a

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Speaker 8: gin deap issue like abortion. That's what they did during

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Speaker 8: the Supreme Court race.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 8: We've got to go into every little small town throughout

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Speaker 8: Wisconsin and get every possible. It's a much more difficult task.

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Speaker 8: So you know, the way I did it is I

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Speaker 8: just traveled tirelessly all of the state. You know, bus tours,

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Speaker 8: that type of thing, every linking day, dinner, dairy breakfast,

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Speaker 8: which is something unique and wonderful about Wisconsin, these dairy

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Speaker 8: breakfast in June. You just got to work the state

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Speaker 8: really hard and go everywhere, go absolutely everywhere.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get a bunch of beers with you in

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee during the course of the Republican National Convention, hopefully.

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Speaker 1: How concerned are you about Democrat left wing activists coming

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Speaker 1: in We feel like it's gonna happen in Chicago, but

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Speaker 1: that's a negative for them. If they could somehow disrupt

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Speaker 1: the Republican National Convention, and so chaos turned that into

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Speaker 1: the story as opposed to what's actually taking place there.

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Speaker 1: How concerned are you about it? How well do you

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Speaker 1: think Milwaukee will be able to handle some of those

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Speaker 1: protesters should they come.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm highly concerned now that I've seen the security

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Speaker 8: plan which was developed for the DNC convention that was

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Speaker 8: going to take place in the summer of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 8: So they developed this plan, you know, based on seam

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Speaker 8: services criteria before the summer of twenty twenty riots, okay, BLM,

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Speaker 8: Antifa riots, So they're coming up with the exact same plan.

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Speaker 8: We have this park a block away from the convention site.

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Speaker 8: The initial plan showed the entrance for the convention two entrances,

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Speaker 8: one north, one south on the streets adjacent to this park.

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Speaker 8: There won't be fences around this park. This'll be just

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Speaker 8: a gathering spot for mayhem. Yeah, completely uncontrolled. So when

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Speaker 8: I saw that, I know the R and C was

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Speaker 8: concerned about that. They'd raise the issue. They weren't getting

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Speaker 8: any traction. So I met with the director of the

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Speaker 8: Secret Service last week. What's bizarre about that meeting is again,

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Speaker 8: they set the plan. They have the authority to create

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Speaker 8: this plan, but now she says she doesn't have the

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Speaker 8: authority to change it.

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Speaker 3: Who does have the authority? I would think she well

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Speaker 3: President Biden.

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Speaker 8: Certainly President Biden would have the authority to tell his

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Speaker 8: Secretary of may Archus of DHS that hotel director of

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Speaker 8: the Secret Service. Let's make sure we don't have problems

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Speaker 8: in Milwaukee. We don't have problems in chicagu either. The

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Speaker 8: difference is in Chicago you have the United Center. It's

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Speaker 8: completely surrounded by private parking lots, so you won't be

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Speaker 8: able to get a protest zone close to that site.

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Speaker 8: We got one to block away right now, and that's

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Speaker 8: got to change.

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Speaker 2: Senator Ron Johnson, everybody, Senator, always appreciate you, sir, thanks

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Speaker 1: No doubt, Harvard Harris poll is out showing Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: You just heard us talking with Senner Ron Johnson, who

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Speaker 1: has won a bunch of tough races in Wisconsin, and

868
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: we have certainly a tough Senate and presidential race about

869
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: five months and change away from happening there Iran the

870
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: helicopter crashes. We started off telling you the information that

871
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: the president and effectively their secretary of state both killed

872
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: in that helicopter crash. And we talked to you about

873
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: Michael Cohen and the amount of insane millions of dollars

874
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: he was making trading on his influence. Pedaling buck. I

875
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: want to come here now. There has been an arrest

876
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: warrant issued for Benjamin not net and Yahoo and other

877
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: Israeli leaders relating to the actions they have taken to

878
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: defend themselves in the wake of the October seventh terror attack.

879
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: The ICC, that is, the International Criminal Court, has accused

880
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: them of human rights violations. And you might be out

881
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: there saying, Okay, well, what's the impact of this. This

882
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: would theoretically mean that, depending on the kun that Netanyahu

883
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: went to, he could be arrested for international human rights violations. Now,

884
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that anyone, for instance, in the United

885
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: States is going to be arresting him. I like to

886
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: think that no one in any European country would be

887
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: doing this.

888
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: But it's a big.

889
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: Deal, and I think it speaks to the inability of

890
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: not only many people on the left in the United States,

891
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: but many people around the world to recognize the distinction

892
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: between defending yourself in the wake of a heinous terror

893
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: attack that took more lives of Jewish individuals than any

894
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: day since the Holocaust and actually being a human rights violator,

895
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: as for instance, the Hamas terrorists are, or frankly, Vladimir

896
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: Putin might be, who has also dealt with his own

897
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: potential human rights violations for his invasion and potential takeover

898
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: of Ukraine. You served in the CIA, You've dealt in

899
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: foreign affairs for a long time. What's your reaction when

900
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: you hear that Benjamin Netnahu and other top Israeli leaders

901
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: are being have been charged and indicted with ICC by

902
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: the ICC with human rights violations.

903
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: I think that the ICC is a joke, that international

904
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: law is essentially a fiction, and that this is showing

905
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: us once again that whenever you have a a multilateral

906
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: international agency of some kind, you somehow always find a

907
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 2: lot of anti Semitism in it. I mean, you see

908
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: this with the UN and un Secure, whether I mean

909
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: or you know, UN Human Rights Council for example, which

910
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: at one point had Libya sitting on the UN Human

911
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: Rights Council uh and they were still passing condemnations of

912
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 2: Israeli behavior and Israeli action. The real issue here is

913
00:47:54,920 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: that the Muslim world, unfortunately is absolutely soaked in anti Semitism.

914
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: That is the truth doesn't mean that every Muslim obviously

915
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: is an anti semit It just means that the Islamic

916
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: world in general, and anyone who would question this would

917
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: have to explain Why do so few Muslim countries have

918
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: normalized relations with Israel? Why can't you travel? Why is

919
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: it that you go to certain countries and I've been

920
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: to them and you even have an Israeli stamp in

921
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: your passport and they won't let you enter. You know,

922
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know that, Klaim, but I

923
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: didn't have any idea. No, that's crazy. Yes, oh it's

924
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: a big deal. There are countries that I've been to

925
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: where the presence of an Israeli stamp will get you

926
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: barred from the country. So, meaning as an American, for example,

927
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: if you visited Israel and then tried to go to

928
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: Lebanon or tried to go to I think Turkey may

929
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 2: even be one of these, but I'd have to go check.

930
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: They're a handful. A number of these countries certainly don't

931
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: want to try to go to Pakistan with a Israeli stamp,

932
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: not an Israeli passport. A stamp from Israel in your

933
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 2: passport will get you barred from the country. So there's

934
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of anti Semitism in the Muslim world. Okay,

935
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: it is state backed, in state sponsored, and their entire

936
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: countries that are effectively, as in Iran being among the

937
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: most noteworthy as a function of state policy anti Semitic.

938
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 2: What does that matter to the International Criminal Court? Well,

939
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: you have all these signatories to it, which Israel is

940
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: not a signatory. In America is not a signatory, and

941
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: that is because of exactly what we're seeing here. You

942
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: have all these Islamic countries, and unfortunately a lot of

943
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: European countries, despite the history of the last one hundred

944
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: years or so, are deeply anti Semitic. To this day,

945
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: there's a lot of anti Semitism. So what I see

946
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: here is exactly what we would expect, and unfortunately it

947
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 2: shows you the depth of the Jewish the hatred for

948
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 2: the Jewish people that comes from a lot of places.

949
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 2: Because there is no country on earth that would suffer

950
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: what Israel suffered on October S and have so many

951
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: different countries that honestly have nothing to do with Palestine,

952
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 2: nothing to do with Israel, doing everything in their power

953
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: to undermine Israel, to stop it from defending itself, to

954
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 2: prevent it from exercising it's sacred and God given rights

955
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: of self defense. I don't give a crap what the

956
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 2: International Criminal Court says Israel is fighting a just war,

957
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: and all you really have to know about this is

958
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 2: claim the calls in the early now it's all, oh,

959
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: we don't like the prosecution of this war. A lot

960
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: of these countries that are now or you know, whether

961
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: it's groups, countries, international criminal court, they were calling for

962
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: a cease fire days after the terrorist attack in October seventh.

963
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: A cease fire.

964
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 2: We don't remember, you know, we don't I shouldn't say remember,

965
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: we don't hear about that much anymore. But the expectation

966
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 2: from the Jew haters at the UN and the Middle

967
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: East and everywhere else, the expectation was after their nine

968
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: eleven and it was equivalent to a nine to eleven

969
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: style attack. After their nine to eleven, they're supposed to

970
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 2: open negotiations. Hamas still has hostages, including as you rightly

971
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: point out, American hostage five of them, and it's on

972
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: Israel to stop what it's doing. If this were the case,

973
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 2: Hamas would have figured out a way that terrorism always wins.

974
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: And that's unfortunately what's at stake right now, because if

975
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: people who are vicious and evil can perpetrate the most

976
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: heinous violence as a function of state policy, and then

977
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: turn around and play the humanitarian rights game and have

978
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: all these useful idiots.

979
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 5: Saying, oh, but they're being too mean in the fight

980
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 5: against the other people. The terrorists always win. Anytime they

981
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 5: want to do this, they get to do this. That

982
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 5: is a completely unacceptable proposition. And the International Criminal Court.

983
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: Look what else if the US we're not a signatory too,

984
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: because we know that this nonsense, because eventually we'd have

985
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: to go to war with some you know, crappy country somewhere,

986
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: and all these human rights abusing third world hellholes.

987
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 3: Would be like, Oh, the US is an imperiallest power.

988
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: We have to lock up their president.

989
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: Other news just came down the State Department. I don't

990
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: know if you've seen this yet, Buck. The State Department

991
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: has issued a statement on the death of Iranian President

992
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: Raizi Rozi and others in a helicopter crash.

993
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 3: Sad Austere religious scholar is that how they're describing them.

994
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

995
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: The United States expresses its official condolences for the death

996
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: of Iranian President Ibraham Rozi, foreign Minister Emir Abdah Holyghan,

997
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: and other members of their delegation in a helicopter crash

998
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: in northwest Iran. As Iran selects a new president, we

999
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: reaffirm our support for the Iranian people and their struggle

1000
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: for human rights and fundamental freedoms. That's the last sentence,

1001
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: which fine calive that the State Department is issued an

1002
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: official condolence for the death of a terrorist mass murderer

1003
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: who killed not only many of his own people, but

1004
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: also was instrumental in so many attacks against American soldiers

1005
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: in the Middle East. This feels like yet another slap

1006
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: in the face from the Biden administration that they would

1007
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: send official condolences from the United States government on the

1008
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: death of a terrorist.

1009
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: You know, look, the State Department, unfortunately is a very

1010
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: left wing, infiltrated place, and has been even since I

1011
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 2: was in the CIA, and the CIA is now as well,

1012
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 2: so I'm not surprised that they would say something like this.

1013
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 2: I think it's also interesting to me to see how

1014
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: many people are assuming that there is some external hand

1015
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: in this, or that this is a that that would

1016
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: have to be that would involve a level of knowledge

1017
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: of Iranian politics that I think assumes too much, meaning well,

1018
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: who comes into power, now, who takes over?

1019
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: What does this do? Internally? So I see this as most.

1020
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: Likely an accident, as I said, although I'm open to

1021
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: persuasion otherwise. You know, I'm just noting. I didn't think

1022
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: the nord Stream pipeline was an accident everybody, and I

1023
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: said so on the show. I'm not an official government

1024
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: line guy, but helicopters in mountainous areas in bad weather

1025
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: do fail. It does happen, they do go down, Okay,

1026
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: nord Stream pipeline don't blow themselves up, and only a

1027
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: few people would know how to do that. So I

1028
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: see things I think for what they are. But I

1029
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 2: think it's unlikely, unfortunately, to change any major dynamics in

1030
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: the region, because one problem, whether it's Iran or Syria,

1031
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: which are very closely linked North Korea, any number of

1032
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 2: states play that are truly tyrannies, is that they spend

1033
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: almost all of their energy on one thing and one

1034
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: thing only, and that is staying in power. Everybody who

1035
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: has any power is part of that machine. And everybody

1036
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 2: who's in the military, everybody who's in the upper political circles,

1037
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: every bureaucrat, for every you know, government institution there. Their

1038
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: number one priority isn't a constitution, It isn't a just society,

1039
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 2: it is how do we stay as the people in charge?

1040
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: And in some cases because they realize if they don't,

1041
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: they're all going to rot in prison the rest of

1042
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: their lives. They might all be executed. Right, So that's

1043
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: this is the challenge with it in autocracy, which is

1044
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 2: what you have in Iran right now, is it's very

1045
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: hard to get change. It eventually happens, but look how

1046
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: long it took with the Soviet Union. So you know,

1047
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: I saw people tweeting over the weekend like, oh my gosh,

1048
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 2: World War three.

1049
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 3: Is about to start. No, it's not. It's not going

1050
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 3: to start over this.

1051
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 2: The question now I think that's open is does it

1052
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 2: create much of a change in policy from the Iranian

1053
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 2: regime or change in actions from the Iranian regime. I

1054
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 2: think the answer is probably no. It's a really intractable problem.

1055
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: And everybody who has been either two kinds of people

1056
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: that get attention on the Iranian issue across.

1057
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 3: The board, people who are overly.

1058
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 2: Pessimistic there's going to be a war any day now

1059
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: and they've been saying that for twenty years, or people

1060
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: who are overly optimistic, which is, oh my gosh, you know,

1061
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 2: do you see that they're actually allowing like more Western

1062
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 2: TV shows on a legal satellite dishes. They're gonna flip

1063
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: any day now and become you know, Western democracy.

1064
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 4: No.

1065
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: Usually, tyrannies just managed to go far longer than people think.

1066
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: They will have a far higher human casualty and human toll,

1067
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: and eventually they collapse under their own weight, and no

1068
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: one can predict when. And I'm not sure Iran is

1069
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: anywhere near that point in time. But status quo is

1070
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: not a way to get attention in the headlines. Clay,

1071
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 2: that's the problem.

1072
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: You've also got, I mean, frankly eighty five year old Dietola,

1073
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: who effectively is in control of everything. So when people

1074
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: here president, they may think it's more significant. Again also

1075
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: basically their secretary of state both dying. I just think

1076
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: that the amality people in.

1077
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: The media could even name the president until this happened, Clay,

1078
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 2: the president of Iran.

1079
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 1: Oh I meane scarier than media. How many politicians could

1080
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: even name it? Who are even dealing with foreign relations?

1081
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Speaker 1: I could Biden? I don't think Biden.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you read the newspapers, you know about

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Speaker 2: the Ayatola. Yes, if you read the newspapers, you didn't

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Speaker 2: know about this guy.

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Speaker 3: I think that's correct. We come back.

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Speaker 1: Senator Haggerty has got an emergency health related in his family.

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Speaker 1: Can't be on with us right now. We certainly wish

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Speaker 1: his family the best. He's fine, but we will talk

1089
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Speaker 1: with him at some point in the future. Let's dive

1090
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Speaker 1: in a little bit more into some of this craziness

1091
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Speaker 1: surrounding the Michael Cohen trial. We will dive into that

1092
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Speaker 1: and discuss and look. By next week, the jury's going

1093
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Speaker 1: to have it in his hand. Should we be optimistic

1094
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Speaker 1: or should we be pessimistic? This case is basically over.

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Speaker 2: You know, the birth rate in our nation has slowed

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Speaker 2: down to a new low, according to a study release

1097
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Speaker 2: this past month that looked at data from twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: There'll be a lot of speculation on why that is

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Speaker 2: and even how much the current conversation on abortion in

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Speaker 2: our nation has on that birth rate. We know planned

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Speaker 2: parenthood is as well funded as ever. The forces of

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Speaker 2: abortion are still strong, in fact, some say stronger than

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Speaker 2: they've ever been if you look at the numbers in

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Speaker 2: this country, because new medications make early stage abortions that

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Speaker 2: much easier, but for pregnant mothers who are agonizing over

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Speaker 2: their decision to give life to their unborn child. The

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Speaker 2: Preborn Network of clinics is there for them.

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Speaker 3: Every day.

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Speaker 2: The Preborn Network rescues two hundred babies very often. The

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Speaker 2: first step in this process, and the most important one,

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Speaker 2: is introducing mom to her tiny baby via ultrasound. Because

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Speaker 2: when a mother meets her baby on that ultrasound, here's

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Speaker 2: the heartbeat. A baby's chance at life doubles. Preborn provides

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Speaker 2: ultrasounds for clinics in the highest abortion areas of the country.

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Speaker 2: They specifically seek out those areas with their clinics so

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Speaker 2: they can do the most good and save the most lives.

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Speaker 2: One ultrasound is just twenty eight dollars, and I think

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Speaker 2: that there are so many people right now who are

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Speaker 2: in the pro life community who have twenty eight dollars

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Speaker 2: to spare to try to save a child's life. But

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Speaker 2: any gift size will help. And in fact, I know

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Speaker 2: there are people listening right now who are very successful,

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Speaker 2: very blessed in life, and could give a larger gift,

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Speaker 2: a leadership gift of say four or five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: I know for most people that's way way more money

1126
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Speaker 2: than they could give to any charity, no matter how worthy.

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Speaker 2: They've got to take care of their families and themselves first.

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Speaker 2: But we have listeners for whom four or five thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars they're so blessed. They've been very hard working and

1130
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Speaker 2: let's be honest, lucky in life, four or five thousand

1131
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Speaker 2: dollars to save lives for an amazing organization when it's

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Speaker 2: entirely tax deductible. That's something they could do without a

1133
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Speaker 2: second thought. So for those of you who can, whether

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Speaker 2: large or small, please donate. Dial pound two five zero

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Speaker 2: say the keyword baby. That's pound two five zero say

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Speaker 2: baby on your cellphone, or visit preborn dot com slash

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Speaker 2: buck that's preborn dot com slash b u c K

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Speaker 2: sponsored by Preboard.

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Speaker 6: Speaking Truth and having Fun Clay Travis and Buck Sexton