WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 126: Union Rules

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<v Speaker 1>This week on a Happy Half Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Fans were conditioned to seeing their starters for a quarter

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<v Speaker 2>in the first game, and a half in the second game,

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<v Speaker 2>and then into the third quarter in the third game.

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<v Speaker 2>Those days are over as teams get more and more

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<v Speaker 2>involved in other ways to get their preseason work in

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<v Speaker 2>without putting their quarterback at risk.

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<v Speaker 1>Touchdown. Cow wha, It's time for the Happy Half Hour

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<v Speaker 1>presented by Southern Star, an official bourbon of the Carolina Panthers.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are your hosts, Darren Kant and Cassidy Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, friends, and welcome to another edition of the Happy

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<v Speaker 2>Half Hour presented by a Southern Star, an official bourbon

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<v Speaker 2>partner of the Carolina Panthers. Celebrate the spirit of the

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<v Speaker 2>Carolinas a little Southern Star. No editorial comment about the

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<v Speaker 2>need for Southern Star after preseason game one. We'll just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of leave that one where it is. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>compelled by union rules that we have to discuss that

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess sure, probably not too much like ten words.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hit me with your best.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I got to come up with ten words.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a few, expect.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did in parts? That's three?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're like writing haiku on your fingers over here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're counting out syllables.

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<v Speaker 3>Encouraging back up secondary. Okay, slow offense, no starters, Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>how about this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many of this is. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>going to say it, pay no attention to the man

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<v Speaker 2>behind the curtain or the man in front of the

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<v Speaker 2>curtain or the curtain. I truly decided about an hour

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<v Speaker 2>and a half before that game kicked off, when we

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<v Speaker 2>put out the list of inactive players who weren't going

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<v Speaker 2>to be joining us during that game was playing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, there's not a lot to be

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<v Speaker 2>learned here tonight, because when the starters on both sides

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<v Speaker 2>of the ball sit, it really does put a damper

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<v Speaker 2>on what you're gonna do. I mean, preseason is always

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<v Speaker 2>such a mixed bag anyway, because you go into a

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<v Speaker 2>game not sure what your opponent is going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think anybody fully expected the Patriots to

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<v Speaker 2>go with this weird quarterback rotation where it's Jacoby Brissett

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<v Speaker 2>then Drake May for a series, but then Bailey's appy

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<v Speaker 2>for a long long time. So I mean, it's always

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<v Speaker 2>tough to try to get a handle on that. What

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<v Speaker 2>we saw was not a whole lot of offense, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is to be expected when you're playing an undrafted

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<v Speaker 2>rookie quarterback in Jack Plumber and the backup offensive line

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<v Speaker 2>which was down to five healthy guys by the end

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<v Speaker 2>of it. So poor ol Brady Christiansen, a former seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>game starter not that long ago, was out there with

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<v Speaker 2>undrafted rookies and it was just a real mixed bag

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. So I know it's been a long time

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody was excited to see football. It's just that

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>If you ever read that Obi Keeler game story says

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I knew a football wise, but how I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was confusing. There was a lot of that

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<v Speaker 2>going around. But I mean that's kind of the danger

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<v Speaker 2>of the preseason, and that's the way this thing is going.

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<v Speaker 2>More and more. I think the old days where fans

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<v Speaker 2>were conditioned to seeing their starters for a quarter in

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<v Speaker 2>the first game, and a half in the second game,

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<v Speaker 2>and then into the third quarter in the third game,

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<v Speaker 2>those days are over. That's gone and it ain't coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>As teams get more and more involved in other ways

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<v Speaker 2>to get their preseason work. In without putting their quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>at risk. I think a lot of teams are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to go to that. I did a little journalism and

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<v Speaker 2>realized that of the thirty two teams in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen of them did not play their starting quarterbacks last week,

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<v Speaker 2>opting for safety rather than anything you'll judge. I mean, really,

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at the list of the teams that did,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, fans have been you know, or a certain

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<v Speaker 2>segment of the fan base, and we'll get to that later,

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<v Speaker 2>but a certain segment of the fan base is like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes played, Josh Allen played, Josh Allen was two

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<v Speaker 2>of three for twenty two yards before leaving for the

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<v Speaker 2>safety of the bench area. So what did Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 2>really learn?

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<v Speaker 3>Are the Buffalo Allen had has like a completely new

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<v Speaker 3>wide receiver course, right?

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<v Speaker 2>And so did we learn that much more about Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Allen in those three very short pass attempts. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think we did, so I understand and listen self awareness.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate everybody being so passionate about professional football. It

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<v Speaker 2>has helped me create a comfortable life from me and

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<v Speaker 2>my family, and I am grateful for that. But being

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<v Speaker 2>too invested in what happens in August. Professional football is

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<v Speaker 2>probably not wise because it's less and less resembling actual

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<v Speaker 2>professional football, so let's weigh it accordingly.

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<v Speaker 3>You also have more and more joint practices, More teams

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<v Speaker 3>are going to that it's something that the Panthers are

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<v Speaker 3>doing this week, and you have seventeen games. You never

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<v Speaker 3>ever want to say it's okay to lose a game,

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<v Speaker 3>but you have a little more wiggle room in the

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<v Speaker 3>regular season now to get the rust off, to get

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<v Speaker 3>the gears going. It hurts when you're opening your season

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<v Speaker 3>against a divisional opponent because you never ever want to

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<v Speaker 3>drop one of those games, but you do have a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more wiggle room in the regular season to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of figure things out, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And I'll be honest with you. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>just that I've been doing this for thirty years and

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<v Speaker 2>seeing a lot of bad preseason football over the years,

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't matter all that much in the big

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<v Speaker 2>scheme of things. And to your point, our joint practices

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<v Speaker 2>are a better way to get your work in because

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<v Speaker 2>here's what Dave Canalis and Robert Salah have done in

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<v Speaker 2>planning the joint practices that will begin tomorrow here Bank

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<v Speaker 2>of America Stadium with the New York Jets. They'll get

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<v Speaker 2>together and they'll say, for instance, and I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>to Mar's practice script, they can say, all right, let's

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<v Speaker 2>do twelve plays of red zone, and then let's do

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<v Speaker 2>twelve plays of move the ball two minute, and then

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<v Speaker 2>let's do twelve plays of live run with our ones

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<v Speaker 2>against our ones. They can plan exact scenarios and repeat them.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a better practice situation when you know you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting twelve plays back to back of X or Y

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever it happens to be. In a game, if

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<v Speaker 2>your undrafted rookie quarterback hurls an eighty yard touchdown pass,

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<v Speaker 2>that might be all the work you get in that quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you know, it changes the entire dynamic of

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<v Speaker 2>the game. I mean, the game situations are unpredictable in

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<v Speaker 2>an actual game, So you can predict the work, you

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<v Speaker 2>can control the work, and most importantly, you can put

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<v Speaker 2>a red jersey on your quarterbacks. And that's the absolute

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<v Speaker 2>biggest thing. I mean, no one is suggesting that poor

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<v Speaker 2>JJ McCarthy in Minnesota suffered the meniscus injury. That's going

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<v Speaker 2>to end his rookie season before it began in a game.

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<v Speaker 2>He was hurt in a game, but you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>can never predict when those things are going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Vikings probably wish he would have not done

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<v Speaker 2>that in the preseason opener. So I think coaches indifference

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<v Speaker 2>to trying to get scheduled work and really finally tuned,

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<v Speaker 2>calibrated work with their opponents and protecting their quarterbacks. It's

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<v Speaker 2>pointing in that direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Coaches are creatures of habit and anything they can control

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<v Speaker 3>they will favor, and that is what a practice is

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<v Speaker 3>versus a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so you know, practice script versus unpredictable game. That's

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<v Speaker 2>an easy choice for these guys. But still, I do

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<v Speaker 2>think it's going to be an interesting day of work

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<v Speaker 2>against the Jets. And one of the funny things to

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<v Speaker 2>me is that's gotten a lot of attention in joint

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<v Speaker 2>practices in the past. That second day. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>when you see guys get sick of each other and

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<v Speaker 2>they know they're not your own guys, and coaches always

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<v Speaker 2>talk about take care of our own people. So we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen big fights break out that joint practices in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>usually there on the second day. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>smart for Salah and Canalis to get together and say,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just do this this one day and head that

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<v Speaker 2>off the pass and Shaq Thompson got love him the

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<v Speaker 2>conscience of that locker room. He nailed it today when

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<v Speaker 2>we asked him about joint practices in general.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I'm old head, So hopefully ain't no fighting because

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<v Speaker 4>you still got a practice, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Regardless of the fighting and stuff like that. I just

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<v Speaker 4>want to come out here, good, good work. We're going

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<v Speaker 4>against a Hall of famer. It's great for the team.

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<v Speaker 4>It's great for the young guys to go out there

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<v Speaker 4>and see a Hall of Famer practice, see how he

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<v Speaker 4>throws the ball, see how he makes his checks and

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<v Speaker 4>stuff like that. So we just got to come out

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<v Speaker 4>here and play our brand of football how we've been

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<v Speaker 4>doing and just stick to ourselves, limited fights and just

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<v Speaker 4>get the great work.

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<v Speaker 3>I get where Shack's coming from, Darren, But do you,

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<v Speaker 3>just as someone who has covered this sport for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time, do you see the benefit of come rang

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<v Speaker 3>that can be wrought in those moments?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, as long as no way jerk somebody's helmet

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<v Speaker 2>off their head and bashes an unprotected player or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I mean, when guys get hurt in those fights.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the danger I think there is. Anytime you're competing

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<v Speaker 2>your people against somebody else's people, there's a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of that to be gained. And you know, again we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen it in the last couple of years here. They've

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<v Speaker 2>done joint practice with the Patriots with the Colts the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of years, and there is a bonding element

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<v Speaker 2>in the simple act of going on the road and

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<v Speaker 2>especially with teams doing training camp at home, including US now.

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<v Speaker 2>And I enjoy that and I wasn't sure how I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna but I haven't missed my dorm mattress.

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<v Speaker 3>Once we can get you one in here in your

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<v Speaker 3>office and fittle health.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, it might help honestly with what's coming

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<v Speaker 2>into next couple of weeks. But but yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 2>think that you can build your bonding in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other ways. Guys are when they're competing, they're together,

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<v Speaker 2>and you see that on the practice field every day,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, you just get a chance to do

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<v Speaker 2>it against somebody else, which always freshens things up. This

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<v Speaker 2>time of year.

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<v Speaker 3>What matchup in this joint practice tomorrow. Are you looking

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<v Speaker 3>forward to seeing the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I'll kind of steal and we can you

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<v Speaker 2>know hear from zero everro on this too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he said it the other day. Aaron Rodgers probably wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have played in a game, but they're going to walk

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<v Speaker 2>to the line of scrimmage and Aaron Rodgers is going

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<v Speaker 2>to do his Aaron Rodgers thing where he calls out

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<v Speaker 2>your play at the line of scrimmage. And if Vero

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<v Speaker 2>was great talking about the other day, listen to this.

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<v Speaker 6>Going against Aaron Rodgers too. Just that level of communication

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<v Speaker 6>and having to disguise everything and really be on point

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<v Speaker 6>on what we're doing because any any weakness, anything that's

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<v Speaker 6>not right, he's going to point it out, and so

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<v Speaker 6>very invaluable for us.

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<v Speaker 2>And sure, when a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers goes to

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<v Speaker 2>the line of scrimmage and goes chapter and verse through

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<v Speaker 2>what you're doing, that's what those guys need to see

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<v Speaker 2>because there are a lot of new pieces on that

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<v Speaker 2>Panthers defense, as we've talked all off season about them,

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<v Speaker 2>seeing that in real time is going to be helpful

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<v Speaker 2>to them. So I mean, to me, even though he's

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<v Speaker 2>in his forties, Even though he's a little kooky with

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<v Speaker 2>some of his off the field stuff, and that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good word, you know, political activism, and let's just leave

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<v Speaker 2>it at that. He's still a fascinating football player to

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<v Speaker 2>watch because of his ability to do what a arrow

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<v Speaker 2>just described right.

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<v Speaker 3>Very very cerebral in that way, and that can be

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<v Speaker 3>a bigger test than physicality at times for a defense.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, you know him, you were around him

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<v Speaker 2>for a couple of years in Green Bay. What's he

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<v Speaker 2>like on a day to day basis in practice and

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<v Speaker 2>what do defensive players up there say about going against

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<v Speaker 2>him on a routine basis in practice.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a little bit like a cat toying with a mouse.

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<v Speaker 3>He kind of likes to amp things up in practice

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<v Speaker 3>and see what he can get away with, see what

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<v Speaker 3>he can test a defense with in practice. It was

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<v Speaker 3>always interesting to watch him at Dvante Adams to other

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<v Speaker 3>in practice, because they would just go out there and

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<v Speaker 3>do things that seem to defy the law of physics

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<v Speaker 3>just to see if they could. And imagine how frustrating

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<v Speaker 3>that is if you're a practice squad dB and you're

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<v Speaker 3>having to go up against the best quarterback wide receiver

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<v Speaker 3>combo in the game at the time, and they're just

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<v Speaker 3>they're drawing up plays in the dirt just to see

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<v Speaker 3>how much they can frustrate you. Yeh. And so he's

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<v Speaker 3>also got I don't know if this is a fact.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he would be able to tell us. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if he has an idetic memory, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>got something pretty dang close. And I think that comes

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<v Speaker 3>in play a lot when facing defenses and knowing what

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna do and therefore how to pick them apart.

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<v Speaker 3>It's never a it's never an issue of the mind

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<v Speaker 3>with him. It's just, you know, can his forty year

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<v Speaker 3>old body still do what he knows it needs to

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<v Speaker 3>do because he's always gonna make the right decision?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, and it didn't last year. He's done, I just think.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's so it's a little bit so And that

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<v Speaker 2>word gets overused a lot in sports. But thinking back

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<v Speaker 2>to the Jets coming to Spartanburg last year, Aaron was

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<v Speaker 2>coming to a new place for the first time. It

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be new and unique, and it's the

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<v Speaker 2>best hope the Jets have had in a long long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Carolina Panthers had a number one overall pick

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback and a brand new code to everybody thought well

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<v Speaker 2>of going into the season and just seeing the scene

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<v Speaker 2>seeing hard knocks, they are documenting the whole thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember going over to take a picture of Bryce and

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron talking before the practice began, and there's a boom

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<v Speaker 2>mic hanging over their head for God's sakes, capturing it

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<v Speaker 2>for the HBO film's footage.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was just so.

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<v Speaker 2>Wild and from where those teams thought they were going

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<v Speaker 2>to be on that August day and where both of

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<v Speaker 2>them ended up when things unfolded the way they did.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of wild to imagine them getting back together

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<v Speaker 2>in a completely different place physically and metaphorically tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe this is the timeline reset they both needed.

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<v Speaker 3>They jumped the wrong timeline and they had to come

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<v Speaker 3>back to this spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is this one of those Marvel things where we're

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<v Speaker 2>in alternate Spartan Lind like something.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Strange opened up a different timehold this time and

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to take the right shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Spartanburg too has tall buildings right.

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<v Speaker 3>And less peaches.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, Cy the peachoid. That's the one thing I

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<v Speaker 2>have missed about Spartanburg. It's getting a chance to drive

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<v Speaker 2>by it a time or two.

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<v Speaker 3>You only.

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<v Speaker 2>It brings a tear to my It truly is an

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<v Speaker 2>architectural wonder, and your lack of appreciation for it is

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<v Speaker 2>disturbing at any rate. So so then we've looked ahead

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<v Speaker 2>to that joint practice. I do think it's worth spending

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of time on what we've seen the

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<v Speaker 2>last two days here and allow me to crawl up

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<v Speaker 2>on my old man's soapbox, if you will. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that the way we consume professional football anymore is largely broken.

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<v Speaker 2>New communication models that allow anybody to publish. Any fan

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<v Speaker 2>that gets in the stands and can transmit one clip

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<v Speaker 2>of one play during one segment of one practice can

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<v Speaker 2>put something out into the universe that becomes what is

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<v Speaker 2>almost a conventional wisdom, the only problem being it's neither

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<v Speaker 2>conventional nor wise. Practice in training camp is designed to

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<v Speaker 2>work all this stuff out, And one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that's frustrating to me is someone who's charged with putting

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<v Speaker 2>responsible information about practice out in the universe, is it

0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:37.480
<v Speaker 2>creates these impressions that everything's broken. Oh my god, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a disaster. Bryce thinks, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>hear this stuff when I get online, and I do

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<v Speaker 2>my very best to stay out of the comments section.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of it's unavoidable. But the one thing that is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of lost in this instant analysis of one practice

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<v Speaker 2>snap is some of this is by design. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think one of the more interesting points that Dave Canalis

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<v Speaker 2>has made lately is talking about, like in today's practice,

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<v Speaker 2>there were a couple of interceptions, shy Tuttle jumps up

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<v Speaker 2>the line of scrimmage, snags one out of the air.

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<v Speaker 2>If this happens during the regular season, our social media

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<v Speaker 2>department photoshops a hamburger on top of the football, like

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<v Speaker 2>we did with Derrick Brown a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Trust me, it was beautiful. I was there and we're

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<v Speaker 2>having fun talking about that. The other one was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a fifty to fifty ball. I mean, Troy Hill

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<v Speaker 2>and Adam Thiel and a couple of salty old vets

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<v Speaker 2>go up and Troy Hill made the play. So it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't as if these were abject disasters by Bryce Young

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<v Speaker 2>really in either case. I mean, if a defensive lineman

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<v Speaker 2>bats ball in the air and intercepts it or catches

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<v Speaker 2>it clean that's kind of a fluke play and in

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<v Speaker 2>most tellings of the Tail, but Canalis was interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously he gets asked about the pigs and he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of broke down what it meant from his perspective.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, turnovers are always just something that we want

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<v Speaker 5>to continue to look at and say what happened here

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<v Speaker 5>and just get to the bottom of it. For me, again,

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<v Speaker 5>the interceptions happen when we're trying, you know, so I

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<v Speaker 5>have no problem with that. You know, it's if we're

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<v Speaker 5>not throwing interceptions, we're not trying stuff. We're not trying

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<v Speaker 5>to make those tight throws. And we know NFL football

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<v Speaker 5>is tightly played. It's tight throws in particularly with our defense.

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<v Speaker 5>The way that those guys are just continuing to hone in.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, we've been playing against each other a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they're taking advantage of those ops. So for me,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't look too far into it other than just

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<v Speaker 5>what happened on display, you know, so we can correct

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<v Speaker 5>it and we can move forward.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, if you know, it's almost like in race,

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<v Speaker 2>and they say if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying,

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<v Speaker 2>if you ain't throwing picks in practice in August. What

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<v Speaker 2>are you really learning about this thing?

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<v Speaker 3>You got to risk it to get the biscuit, Darren.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, risk it to.

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<v Speaker 3>Get the biscuit. And I looked up Bryce's numbers from

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<v Speaker 3>last year, and on first glance, you're like, oh, those

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<v Speaker 3>are pretty respectable turnover numbers for a rookie in a

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<v Speaker 3>weird way, especially in a two and fifteen season. They

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<v Speaker 3>should have been higher. And I'll never forget when I

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<v Speaker 3>was covering Trevor Lawrence as a rookie and it became

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<v Speaker 3>pretty clear that the season was a wash, he just

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<v Speaker 3>started chucking it up there and he took credit for it,

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<v Speaker 3>not even blame credit. He said, this is on purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, at this point, the rest of this season

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<v Speaker 3>is about my development and figuring out how fast these

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<v Speaker 3>windows close and where they are. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>those chances were necessarily taken with Bryce last season. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know this is the old cliche. You'd rather your

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback throw those picks in August versus September or October,

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<v Speaker 3>no question, And I think he needs to figure out

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<v Speaker 3>what he can get away with, especially if they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be getting the ball out as quickly as Dave

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<v Speaker 3>Canalis would like him to do. If they're gonna throw

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<v Speaker 3>it deeper than maybe he did some last season, he's

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<v Speaker 3>got to know where those spots are, where those windows are,

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<v Speaker 3>and how these receivers move within those fifty to fifty balls.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I never necessarily, if they're not egregious, which

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think either of these two from Wednesday were.

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<v Speaker 3>If they're not egregious, I never really see an issue

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<v Speaker 3>with throwing interceptions in practice.

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<v Speaker 6>M hm.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's essentially what Canal has said as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, and I mean again, I've maybe it's because of

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<v Speaker 2>all the scars I've built up in thirty pre seasons past,

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<v Speaker 2>but I remember Jimmy Cuson. I know what a bad

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<v Speaker 2>interception looks like. I know what you know an unfortunate

0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:24.160
<v Speaker 2>one looks like. And I've seen my share. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>not that it's not even covering for Bryce, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>putting it in context and explaining what he's trying to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I had somebody on a radio appearance this morning and

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<v Speaker 2>ask me how Bryce was looking at I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce looks like Bryce looks All the things that were

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<v Speaker 2>true about him at Alabama remain true. He is accurate,

0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.159
<v Speaker 2>he is smart, he knows how he knows how to

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<v Speaker 2>read a defense and all those things. Now he is

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<v Speaker 2>learning how to apply that at the NFL level in

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<v Speaker 2>real time.

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<v Speaker 3>And there were struggles last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously he's one of many people who need to improve

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<v Speaker 2>over last year. But I do think to your point, Cass,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, learning how to calibrate how high Adam Feeling

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<v Speaker 2>can get up the ladder on a twenty yard route

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<v Speaker 2>is important for him to know because you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be in those situations this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Something else that he did today that Canalis pointed out

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<v Speaker 3>was his growth on the scramble drills, and almost hesitate

0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:23.480
<v Speaker 3>to call some of them scramble drills. Technically, technically if

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<v Speaker 3>he leaves the pocket, not by design, I guess it

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<v Speaker 3>is a scramble drill, but because of Bryce's ability with

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<v Speaker 3>his legs and his ability to throw off platforms so well,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even think they're thinking of them as a

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<v Speaker 3>play that fell apart, but just a play that's shifted.

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<v Speaker 3>And Canals mentioned today, you know, wanting Bryce to work

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<v Speaker 3>on those more and more because that is where they

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<v Speaker 3>feel one if Bryce's strength lies, and we saw him

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<v Speaker 3>do that twice today wants to Derek Mingo Jonathan Mingo,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, all right, Jonathan Mingo.

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<v Speaker 2>Erck Mingo is an exciting young prospect.

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<v Speaker 3>There we go. I knew, I knew, I knew him

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<v Speaker 3>from somewhere. One to Jonathan Mingo, one to Terrace Marshall Junior,

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<v Speaker 3>where he quote unquote scrambled, got out of the pocket

0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:18.000
<v Speaker 3>and reset himself outside. Actually I think one of them

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<v Speaker 3>was on the run and then the other one. He

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<v Speaker 3>reset himself and got what would be considered an explosive

0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:26.720
<v Speaker 3>play on the stat sheet. And then Canalis mentioned afterwards.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's something I want Bryce to understand, is

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<v Speaker 3>that if you can by the time, you can still

0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:35.040
<v Speaker 3>set up an explosive play. And we saw that a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of times today. And so from the outside looking in,

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like, oh, that play fell apart. It didn't

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<v Speaker 3>go the way it was supposed to. It may have

0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.840
<v Speaker 3>gone exactly the way they wanted it to. And again,

0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:47.960
<v Speaker 3>you want to figure out what you can get away

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<v Speaker 3>with in August versus October.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt about it, and you want to do it

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<v Speaker 2>in as controlled a way as you can.

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<v Speaker 3>So look at us come in full circle.

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<v Speaker 2>We bring it all bring that joke right back around

0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:01.359
<v Speaker 2>to the top. So I don't know it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be interesting. I mean, we'll have more for you next week.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll break down that Jets joint practice, will break down

0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:11.800
<v Speaker 2>whatever happens in that preseason game, And we don't really

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<v Speaker 2>know who's gonna play in it yet. My suspicion is

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be closer to you know, Canal said

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<v Speaker 2>today he did want to get guys sometime in the

0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:23.840
<v Speaker 2>preseason just to see it. But I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 2>looking for extended time, and I don't know whether he's

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<v Speaker 2>looking for it this week or next.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think we see some offensive strung.

0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I think you're going to see some guys at some point. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>is that Saturday night here against the Jets? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>next Saturday in Buffalo and a matinee an afternoon in Buffalo?

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<v Speaker 2>What could be better than that? So we'll look forward

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<v Speaker 2>to breaking all that down for you next week when

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<v Speaker 2>we come back on the Happy Half Hour.