1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching. 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: App as Booming Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show, Boots Sports Radio. 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: It's a Friday. I hope you're ready for a great 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: summer weekend. 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: Alright, NBA season is in the books, and so is 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: the NBA Draft. 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: I mean I find it hard to find a heart 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: of fake interest in things. And it's not because you know, 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: there's a young man I got a chance to work 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: with as a consultant two years ago, Javon Small draft 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: yesterday he was at West Virginia. Year before that he 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: was at Oklahoma State from South Bend, Indiana. Just just 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: a stud of a young man. So really happy for him. 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 2: But you know, what did we really gain from less 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: having a second day of an NBA draft? 22 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, but we do have lots to talk 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: about and some interesting topics. So Cooper Flag, as we 26 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: told you he is. Look, he's kind of the great 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: White Hope, a American born white player that is the 28 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: number one pick in the NBA draft, and like, we 29 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: can dance around it. But generally American born players that 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: have been highly regarded, highly successful in the NBA have 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: all been either a black or mixed race. I mean, 32 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: that's just the reality of it. The guys with the 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: whiter skin, the whiter guys have been foreign born players 34 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: who have played well and dominated. American born white players 35 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: have not. So it adds to the intrigue. I'm not 36 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: going to sit here and deny that. It adds to 37 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: the intrigue of the I just wonder Larry Bird said 38 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: black man's game. But I always find it interesting on 39 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: how people try and combined the women's game in the 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: men's game and ESPN, well they do it. They do 41 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: their thing. And there's a radio host, by the way, 42 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: is very successful as an FMDJ, and he's done radio 43 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: on the sports side as well. He's done both. And 44 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: his names but Peter Rosenberg, and he was on First 45 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: Take today and here's what he said about Cooper Flag 46 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: in comparison to Caitlin Clark. 47 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 5: We're all adults we can have a real life conversation 48 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 5: right now. Last time I checked, we still live in America, right. 49 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 5: Cooper Flag is a white guy, maybe the best white 50 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 5: American prospects since Larry Bird. Right, Let's not act as 51 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 5: if we don't live in America. We're not seeing what's 52 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 5: happening with Caitlin Clark in the WNBA. Cooper Flag is 53 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 5: going to be an instant impact player in the NBA. 54 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 5: I think Danny will agree, he is ready to go. 55 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 5: That kid could play right now if he's nearly as 56 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 5: good as people expect. I think when it comes to intrigue, 57 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 5: actual intrigue that people are talking about day to day, 58 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 5: no one's going to be more intriguing get more eyeballs 59 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 5: than what Cooper Flag's doing in Dallas. 60 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: Okay, so there's a lot to ingest there. The idea 61 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: that he's going to be an instant impact player, again, 62 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: what does that exactly mean? I think he's going to 63 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: be good. I also think he's eighteen years old, and 64 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: I think you know that's a team where again they'll 65 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: look like one thing before Cayrie comes back. Kyrie will 66 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: take it well to adjust, but Anthony Davis to be 67 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: the best player on the team, and Cooper Flag would 68 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: have a chance to develop on a pretty good playoff 69 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: caliber team and we'll see how he's used. But the 70 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: discussion I want to have is not about Cooper Flag. 71 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: The discussion I want to have is about Caitlin Clark 72 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: because what was not so subtly said there by Peter 73 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: Rosenberg is I think the walking narrative of many WNBA 74 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: players and some WNBA fans, which is basically, hey, the 75 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: reason that we're paying attention to Kaitlin Clark is because 76 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: she's white. I didn't miss here that I didn't misconstrue that. 77 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: I think that's what anyone can gain her from it. 78 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: The problem with that is that the women's game is 79 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: not the men's game. The women's game is not the 80 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: men's game. And whether it's Sue Bird or Elena deladon, 81 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: uh you even move it to the current players and 82 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: a Kelsey Plumb or the rookie who they'll compete against 83 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: the night in a page Beckers, Last time I checked, 84 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: they're all white. 85 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: Right, they're all white. 86 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: So if people are paying attention to Caitlyn Clark because 87 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: she's white, why haven't they paid attention when Elena Deladon 88 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: was the best player in the WNBA. Why why aren't 89 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: they paying more attention to Paige Beckers. Why is Kelsey 90 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: Plum despite the fact that she scored at one point 91 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: time the most I think points of second most points 92 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: of anybody in college basketball, why didn't she receive the 93 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: same fanfare? I'm asking because I know what the answer is, 94 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: right and if you want to say, well, it was 95 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: because she was the thing in college, Like again, page 96 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: Backers was a bigger thing in high school and played 97 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: at the absolute biggest women's college basketball program in the 98 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: country at Yukon and just won a national championship. I 99 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 2: don't even think it's because she's straight. Do I think 100 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: that she's white and that she's straight and that she 101 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: looks like the girl next door are added things that 102 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: may attract a small percentage of people, maybe, But I 103 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: honestly believe that there's two parts to it, or maybe three, 104 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: where she's a force multiplier, force multiplier, force multiplier in 105 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: how she plays, but in her overall presence and demeanor 106 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: force multiplier. She makes everybody around her better. She makes 107 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: everything sort of bigger, and she obviously was the rising 108 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 2: tide that lifted all those ships in at Iowa. They 109 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 2: didn't win a national championship, but they went back to 110 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: back final fours, and if you look historically, it's been 111 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: a really good program. You know what hadn't done previously, 112 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: gone a back to back final fource. 113 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: It's the force multiplier. So that's the first thing. 114 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: Second thing is it's style of play. We're so attracted 115 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: to how Steph Curry played that. And again, part of 116 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: the magic to Steph Curry is he takes the same 117 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: shots she's shooting, only he doesn't go through the shooting 118 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: slumps she's going through. But the Steph Curry logo threes 119 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: combined with the passing, the panache and then the winning 120 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: and you have the second I think kind of tent 121 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: pole to uh to it. And then I think location 122 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: helps her. I think the fact that she the Midwestern 123 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: girl from Iowa played at Iowa, all about the Midwest 124 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: draft in the Midwest where they actually really really care 125 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: about basketball and feel like they care about their own 126 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: I think all the those things work. And it reminds 127 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: me of a book called The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell, 128 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: where it's basically case studies on what was the tipping 129 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: point which allowed red wing shoes to blow up? What 130 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: was the tipping point for anything? And my takeaway from 131 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: the book has always been and continues to be that 132 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: it's never just one factor, but it's all wrapped up 133 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: in a perfectly packaged, perfectly timed and a little bit 134 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: of luck that ends up making things go big, making 135 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: things go big, I know, I mean, think about think 136 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: about Starbucks in comparison to however many other chains there 137 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: have been. Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf used to be bigger. 138 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: Starbucks race past it. 139 00:08:59,240 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: Right. 140 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: Starbucks went to drive throughs for a good reason because 141 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 2: you can make a ton more money on those drive throughs, 142 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 2: but it did. That was a massive evolution for Starbucks 143 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 2: when Howard Schultz owned star When he started Starbucks and 144 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: they started to expand, the whole idea was it was 145 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: your third place. First place is home, your second place's work. 146 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: They wanted to be your third place to where you 147 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: could hang out and do work or feel like you're 148 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: at home and have conversations. And they didn't want to 149 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: do drive throughs. But then they were going to make 150 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: so much money to drive throughs, they had to do 151 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: it and had to expand. Probably over expanded. Remember there's 152 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: a time which they during the economic downturn, they closed 153 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: a lot of stores, but those drive throughs allowed them 154 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: to survive and even thrive during COVID, whereas your mom 155 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: and pop coffee shops where everybody got to sit inside 156 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 2: and talk, those were left in the dust. Point is 157 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: that it's not just one factor. It's a multitude of 158 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: factors that allows something to be successful. But for whatever reason, 159 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: people seemed completely locked in on the fact that Kaitlyn 160 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: Clark is white and that's why people care about Kaitlyn 161 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 2: Clark and she is white. 162 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: There's no denying. Is there a curiosity towards it? 163 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 2: Maybe, But in the women's game, it's really about fifty 164 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: to fifty and oh yeah. By the way, who we 165 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: care about and who we like and who we watch 166 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: the most doesn't have to be the best. And I 167 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: honestly think the NFL is a great example. I give 168 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: credit to Jay Stu. He pointed out to start the 169 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 2: year and he's like, look, it's been trending this way. 170 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: I think this is the worst year ever for it. 171 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: Where the NFL at times is not a great product. 172 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: Now how they package it is really good. It's a 173 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: great TV sport. It works for gambling, it works for 174 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: fantasy football, whatever, But the actual gameplay not the greatest, right, 175 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: even college football not the greatest. But you don't always 176 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: watch things because they're the best. You don't watch the cleanest, 177 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: the best sport because of why you watch it. You know, 178 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: there's a discussion over do you watch college you watch pro? 179 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: And I thought Jay Billis pointed out really well the 180 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: other day on a podcast where he was talking about 181 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: basketball and that if you like college basketball, we watch 182 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: college basketball, and you don't watch the NBA. You're not 183 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: watching it because the quality of the product. You're watching 184 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: it for another reason. You know, a kid, you're intrigued 185 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 2: by what's the future of the sport like, But more 186 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: than anything, a tie or an infatuation with a coach 187 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 2: or university. 188 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: That's it. It's not the best. 189 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: So Caitlin Clark probably not the best player in the NBA. 190 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: She's incredibly impactful, and we pay attention to her. 191 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: Is she white? Yeah? Is she straight? Sure? 192 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: But there have been other white, straight players who have 193 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: been very, very good players in the WNBA, and they 194 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: have not received a fraction of the attention of a 195 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark. Now there'll be case studies done, and maybe 196 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 2: I'm wrong, but I think her location staying in a 197 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 2: school for four years when everybody else was bouncing to 198 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: school to school, to school to school. Hailey Bandwidth for example, 199 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 2: by the way, Hailey vandlith also white, right, the dynamic 200 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: of how she plays, how she carries herself, being in 201 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: the Midwest, being a force multiplier, taking Eyewa a back 202 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 2: to back final fource. Her performance for the most part 203 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: when those bright lights are on, have been outstanding, and 204 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: people like what they like, and once they decide what 205 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 2: they like, what they decide that that's going to be 206 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: a favorite. On my phone and update me on what 207 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: she does. You can study it, you can argue about it, 208 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 2: but she's not going to change it. So you know, 209 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: I hate that I'm saying this, but gosh, that really 210 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: fell in line with everything New York of Peter Rosenberg right, 211 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: fall back on everything being about race and not about 212 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: substance or not about style or not about the things 213 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 2: that it's really about. And if you think I'm wrong, okay, 214 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: just Diana Tarassi. She's white. She was the best player 215 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: in the WNBA for a handful of years. Some people 216 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: think she's the greatest WNBA player ever. I think then 217 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 2: she win four titles at UCUNN. So what you get 218 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: from many of these women is just jealousy, and what 219 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: you get from people who aren't these women is an 220 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: explanation which is wrapped around race. The problem with it 221 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: is it's a red herring. It already exists. Great white 222 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 2: players have already been there. Kelsey Plumb already played four 223 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: years and scored over three thousand points, Elena Dela Don, 224 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: Diana Tarazi, Sue Byrd. Last time I checked, they're all white, 225 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: and some of them are, in fact stray some of 226 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: them are not. Do I think am? 227 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 3: I am? 228 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: I blind to the fact that that's probably there's a 229 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 2: percentage of people. Sure, there's also always going to be 230 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: a percentage of people that in basketball, when you're white, 231 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: they don't think you're as good as somebody who's not, 232 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 2: so they won't buy in, so they won't watch. I 233 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: actually think that kind of crossed each other out. The 234 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: fact that she's straight. I guess Kelsey plump straight. She 235 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: was married to an NFL player, now she's divorced. Like, 236 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: I don't think that's it. Girl, next door. Maybe in 237 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: the packaging. I think the biggest things are that it's 238 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: she's a force multiplier, and people are attracted to that, 239 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: they watch that, they want to know how that happens. 240 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: I think style of play, and then again the loyalty component, 241 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: the Midwest component, combined with some other factors and timing, 242 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: I think it just works. 243 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 244 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 6: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 245 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 6: Flock Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. 246 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: Stuck ott Leap Show Fox Sports Radio. So Big Ben's 247 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: kind of he's kind of figured out this podcast stuff. Right, 248 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: do lists talk about big names get yourself in the mix. 249 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: My guess is Big Ben Roethisberger wants to be on 250 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: TV and here's how. 251 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 3: He's gonna here's how he's gonna do it. 252 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: I don't know whether his early career off field stuff 253 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: ends up keeping him from doing that. I don't know, 254 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: but he's on a podcast called Football and with Ben Roethlisberger, 255 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: he made this declaration. 256 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 7: Well, I would take Aaron and his prime over over 257 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 7: Patrick Now, I think I think yeah, I think Aaron 258 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 7: Rodgers at his prime was one of the top few 259 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 7: to ever do it. And so with Patrick Mahomes his prime, 260 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 7: Patrick Mahomes is just just like entering out of his prime. 261 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 4: I think. 262 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: It's a that's a fascinating discussion. It's a fascinating discussion. 263 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers or Pat Mahomes. Aaron Rodgers in his prime 264 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: over Pat Mahomes. Yeah, I again, I don't have Here's 265 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: what I've said about Aaron Rodgers. There's boxes that you 266 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: have to check, and most guys are missing something right, 267 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: Like if you want to say Tom Brady, Like Tom 268 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: Brady was not athletics, so if you could get to 269 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: him at his feet, so he didn't move the way 270 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: Aaron moved, didn't move the way air moved, Steve Young 271 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: got hurt a lot. I guess that's the you know, 272 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: when Steve Young went through a period of time early 273 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: in his career, wasn't very good, went to the USFL, 274 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: you know, was a backup, earned his way back in 275 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: and then became a Hall of It was amazing. Steve Young, 276 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: I feel like probably gonna go down as one of 277 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks to never to be in that discussion 278 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: when he played, and never be in that discussion since 279 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 2: Pat Peyton Manning. 280 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 3: Not a great. 281 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: Arm uh nimble into pocket obviously not out of the pocket. 282 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: Unbelievable quarterback. Not a great arm made it work anyway, 283 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: played indoors or an altitude. 284 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: Not a great arm. So they all have something. 285 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: Damn Reno completely immobile and had to play in the 286 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: shotgun a bunch because of that mobility, and they never 287 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: had a running game. But part of the reason they 288 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: never had a running game was he couldn't be under 289 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: center and also didn't win enough. Now you could say 290 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: the same thing about Rogers, but there's a lot of 291 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: NSC championship games, a couple of Super Bowls. 292 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 3: Was do you lose the Super Bowl? Definitely won a 293 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: Super Bowl. 294 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 2: Sin's But if you want to go through the boxes, 295 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 2: you got to check right, does he have the arm 296 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: strength yes, accuracy yes, mobility sure, brain yes, leadership. I 297 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: think the answer is yes. I would say the one 298 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: thing that would be missing. And here's where we all 299 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 2: have blind spots, right, we all have blind spots. I 300 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: think Big Ben, by the way, was elite, elite, elite, 301 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: but sometimes you have a blind spot for likability, and 302 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: Aaron wasn't unlikable like Erin. 303 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 3: If you get to know him. Great dude. 304 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: A lot of guys really like him. But it's not 305 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: like he's close with a lot of guys. It's not 306 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: like there are people trying to kill themselves to be 307 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 2: Aaron's guy and Aaron's supporter, whereas Mahomes and others they 308 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 2: have this it's almost like they're a politician where they 309 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: just win. If you sit down with him, you're like, 310 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: oh my god, are we best friends? He has that, 311 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 2: but he also can turn it off a lot quicker 312 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: than they don't turn it off. Let's welcome in Mark dominic. 313 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: Of course, he was a gentlemanager the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 314 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: He's worked everywhere in professionals football ain't joined just for 315 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: his weekly visit here. On the Doug Gallop Show on 316 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Big Ben said, prime Aaron Rodgers over 317 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: prime Pat Mahomes. 318 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: What do you think? 319 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: Oh, I don't think he's far away as great as 320 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes is. I think because we've been a little 321 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 4: bit further removed from what we remember Aaron Rodgers being 322 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 4: that maybe we're not remembering prime Aaron Rodgers has been saying, like, 323 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 4: I mean I dealt with Baron, you know a couple 324 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 4: of times, specifically early in his career that was GM 325 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 4: when Aaron was going equipped not forty touchdowns and having 326 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: like five or six interceptions a season. So it was painful, 327 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 4: you know, I think I think Ben's fair. I don't 328 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 4: think it's a It's not like some absurd statement. I 329 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 4: look at it that way. You know, there's a guy 330 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,239 Speaker 4: that Aaron when I was a GM and deal with him, 331 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 4: he was completing sixty seven sixty eight summary that the 332 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: kind of percentages going well over four thousand yards, and 333 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 4: he would as the poster child for like touchdown to 334 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 4: interception Raytio. I mean, he was the best. And so 335 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 4: I don't think that's a search statement is as great 336 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 4: as you know. Obviously Patrick's have been. 337 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. There is 338 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: a there is a factor though, and again I wasn't 339 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: in the Packers' organization, and I think some of how 340 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: we view it now is how it ended, not how 341 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 2: it was during the during the meat of those years 342 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: where he had a lot better relationships I think with teammates. 343 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: But there is a certain likability factor that you have 344 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: to have at quarterback, is there not? 345 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 4: Yes, I think it's very I mean, I do think 346 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 4: it's important, but I don't think that the guys like 347 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: I don't remember guys in Green Bay, like you know, 348 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 4: the old school receivers are you know driver, But also 349 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 4: you know obviously Dante. No one never spoke ill of Aaron, 350 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 4: I know, since I think the media didn't like him 351 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 4: or something like some people had to part. I't remember 352 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 4: players like ever coming out and somebody this guy's a jerk. 353 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, it's it's he wasn't unlikable, But I 354 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 2: don't know if they loved him. I don't know if 355 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: it was the same. I again could be wrong and 356 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: a lot. I think some of it is outsider to 357 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 2: the main years, and it changes over time. And of course, 358 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: you know when you bounce team to team here late 359 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: in your career, some of that stuff changes as well. 360 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: Mark Domini, our guest. You're in the Doug Go Outlet 361 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: Show on Fox Sports Radio. I'm intrigued by Kayleb Williams. 362 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: You know, he's Jason Stewart, who I know you talked to. 363 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 2: He's our producer here. I love the analogy that he 364 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: uses it. It's basically like the spouse or boyfriend that 365 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 2: gets caught cheating and is always having to gravel right, 366 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: He's always and because they got him on tape saying 367 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: I want to be a Viking. 368 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: I don't want to play. 369 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: It's like he's over the top in the Oh my god, 370 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: this is the greatest thing ever. 371 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: So where are you. 372 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: On Caleb Williams on the likelihood of a more successful 373 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: second year in his career. 374 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 4: I think you know, and you remember, and we talked 375 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 4: about last year. I liked Caleb Williams, but I wasn't 376 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 4: the number one to Caleb Williams guy. I just felt 377 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 4: like he thought it was gonna be easy and things 378 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 4: were going to come naturally, and it was just gonna 379 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 4: be like I'm gonna walk to the NFL and own 380 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 4: this thing, and it's just not like that. That's how 381 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: this league works. It's certainly very hard to do that. However, 382 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 4: that all being said, I think the Bears have done 383 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 4: a tremendous job of improving that offensive line. I think 384 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: a lot of us kind of forget that Caleb Williams, 385 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: you know, did have a good season, except he's the 386 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 4: number one pick and so you're holding him to a 387 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 4: different standard, right. I think that that's the hard thing 388 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 4: for him when you kind of look at what is 389 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 4: expected out of him versus what he delivered, you know, 390 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 4: more touchdowns, certainly, I think everybody would want to see 391 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 4: better expect that from Caleb Williams, and I think we'll 392 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 4: see that this year again. Protections everything and you know, 393 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 4: you want to see the biggest jump of any NFL 394 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 4: player from like year one to year two. Think of 395 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence. He was if you want to compare a 396 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: first overall pick and how he did. Trevor Lawrence was 397 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 4: terrible then his first year. I mean he threw what 398 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 4: twelve touchdowns, eight to seventeen eighteen interceptions versus twenty and 399 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 4: six for Caleb Williames. So there was good things there. 400 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 4: It's just that Jaden Daniels was wow, and I think 401 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 4: that kind of hurt the look of Caleb. Hopefully he's 402 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 4: grown up through this. I think he will improve this year. 403 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 4: I still don't know if he's going to get it 404 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 4: and understand exactly what you're talking about. Aaron Rodger is 405 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 4: how to become more of a genuine likable guy by 406 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 4: the things that come out of his mouth sometimes. 407 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 2: Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the 408 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: voice of Mark Dominic, long time in the NFL, most 409 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: notably a gentle manager with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Okay, 410 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: so then you go to Minnesota, a team that they've 411 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: had back to back starting quarterbacks who have left on 412 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: back to back years. But they put up gargantuan numbers, 413 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: gark gantuan numbers, and the thought is, man, you got 414 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: a former quarterback who's a play color, he got skilled 415 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: position guys everywhere. But now you have JJ McCarthy who 416 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 2: hasn't played a snap and he's played in college with 417 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 2: a highly conservative system him. How do you think they 418 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 2: bring him up to speed in real time. 419 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to be as hard as 420 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 4: I think people think. You know, thankfully JJ did get 421 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 4: to play in one preseason game and got to throw 422 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 4: the ball around a little bit before. You know, obviously 423 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 4: the Dost injury. The one thing even in the preseason, 424 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: in the one game he played, one thing that's really important. 425 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: He took zero sacks, and that's a big deal for 426 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 4: a young quarterback. You know that he's got the awareness 427 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 4: to know to get the ball out of his hands 428 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 4: and not take the negative play and he did a 429 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: good job in that and that was you know, you 430 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 4: can't really judge a lot off the preseason, but at 431 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 4: least can just judge decision making in poise and JJ 432 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 4: showed that. And now with an offseason of you know, 433 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 4: being able to really dig into the book really to 434 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 4: understand what's expected, to watch it from the field is tough, 435 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 4: but I think he's going to have a lot of 436 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 4: success because again, I think he's got the charisma it part, 437 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 4: but I also think he's got the mental acuity that 438 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 4: you're looking for at quarterback where he makes the right 439 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 4: decision with the football. Will there be some and now, 440 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 4: of course he's JJ McCarthy. He's going to be in 441 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 4: his quote unquote rookie season or his first year to 442 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 4: actually play. But I'm not surprised the Viking's handed them 443 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 4: to the ball and sad go get this because they 444 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 4: have the confidence to draft them more they did, and 445 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 4: you know, I think that they've seen a lot of him, 446 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: probably over the last couple of weeks, but also before 447 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 4: the injury, they were probably wowed by him by what 448 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 4: he was doing, you know, within the organization before he 449 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 4: got banged up. 450 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: Stuck Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. I love 451 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: the Patriots higher, I just do. But what does that 452 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: look like on the field considering the competitiveness of that division? 453 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 4: Uh? You know, I you know, I love Rabel, I 454 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 4: like I like the people within the front office. I 455 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 4: like the coaching staff that they've got together. I think 456 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 4: they're going to be good. The problem is the roster 457 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 4: still too far away for that division. They're still you know, 458 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 4: they're fighting I think for third place at best, even 459 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 4: though Brabel has done a great job with you know, 460 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 4: some teams that may not have had as much talent. 461 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 4: But I do think that it's a good team. But 462 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 4: they are at least one, if not two seasons away 463 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 4: from really being competitive with the even the Dolphins. And 464 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 4: I don't say that in the bad way of the 465 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins. I think if they can have to a 466 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 4: first season, they should be a playoff team. But certainly 467 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: they're not near where the Bills are right now. And 468 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 4: from just a pure talent standpoint, I think they're trying 469 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 4: to get there. They'll slowly get there, but the skill position, 470 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 4: the skill players just to me still aren't at the 471 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 4: level that we see other teams in that division that 472 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 4: they have and that I think that's going to hold 473 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 4: him back. 474 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably will, probably will hold up. 475 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: What about the Chiefs, You know, Mahomes has just figured 476 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 2: out a way to get it done. And you know, 477 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: the last two Super Bowls they've been in, We're like, Wow, 478 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: this is the least talented they're going to be. What 479 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: have they done to their talent base? 480 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 4: Well, I think one thing that's big, and then I 481 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 4: don't think of people really. You know, it's been a 482 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 4: very tumultuous time for his career, but she writes coming 483 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 4: back is a big deal, like he was really breaking 484 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: out and the player that I think everybody in Kansas 485 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 4: hoped you'd be, and certainly within the front office is 486 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 4: what and now him coming back is going to be 487 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 4: a big bolst to that offense where you've got the 488 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 4: guys that can vertically Hollywood Brown and Xavier Worth, it 489 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: can go vertical, but Rashie Rice can do everything underneath. 490 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 4: That's a huge deal. My big concern about the Chiefs, 491 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 4: and I love the pick of Josh Simmons. I think 492 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 4: it was a steal for them to get him at 493 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 4: the bottom of the first round. But I still just 494 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 4: worry about like the you know, losing Joe Dooney, you know, 495 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: the right tackle spot. Juan Taylor hasn't been really comfortable, 496 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 4: so I get more worried there. They're a physical football team. 497 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 4: The only thing I think that they wish they cab 498 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 4: had is a little more speed on the defensive side. 499 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: But I think the biggest thing you got to watch 500 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 4: as a Chiefs fan, and I think this is why 501 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 4: I think they'll take a little step down, is the 502 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 4: cornerback room's not strong like it has been before. I 503 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 4: think Jalen Watson can have a good year, but I 504 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 4: think they're looking at the other corner opposite of him 505 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 4: with McDuffie probably inside of the nickel. That's going to 506 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 4: be a spot that I think people are going to 507 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: really pin and attack and where the Kansas City be 508 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 4: able to hold up because they know they've got power rushers, 509 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 4: but they really don't have the fastball rusher, which I 510 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 4: think they really really need. 511 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Eagles win the Super Bowl. Last time to 512 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, lose your coordinators and they struggle. 513 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: This time, you lose your offensive coordinator. What's the Eagles 514 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 2: now trying to repeat? What does that that that team 515 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 2: look like with Saquon back, you know, with with so 516 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: many back and some of those young players coming of age. 517 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's nice that Lane Johnson is going 518 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 4: to play and stay there. I think that's a big deal. 519 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 4: And again, I always go to the offensive line first, 520 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 4: and I feel really good about where they sit. You know, 521 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 4: the Cam Jurgens, albeit a different player than obviously Kelsey, 522 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 4: certainly was very productive in terms of their run game 523 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 4: and helping Saquon. The only thing you can worry about 524 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,239 Speaker 4: is can they stay as healthy as they were, Like Ken, 525 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 4: Saquon stay as healthy as he was, You wonder about that. Defensively, 526 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 4: I think, you know, besides Quinnon, Mitchell and Cooper Jeans 527 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 4: who came in and had just great years, They've got 528 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 4: other players on this team that I think are really 529 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: going to step up and step through this year. Like 530 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 4: I'm looking at guys like Kylie Ringo, the corner that 531 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 4: they drafted a couple of years ago. I think he's 532 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 4: a starting corner in the National Football I think he's 533 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 4: a really good one. I think Jaylex Hunt is a 534 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 4: guy that you know, I think is going to be 535 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 4: in a very very good pass rusher that by middle 536 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 4: of the season, Doug, We're gonna be talking about like 537 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 4: the Eagles, like, who are these guys that weren't starting 538 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 4: last year that suddenly start this year. So I think 539 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 4: they've got a lot of depth from the defensi side, 540 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 4: which is going to be the really exciting spot for them. 541 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 4: So I look at that, so I think defensively they're 542 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 4: going to be fine. I just think offensively, I hope 543 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 4: they can stay healthy. But I just feel like when 544 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 4: you when you look at Devonte Smith or you see 545 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 4: a sa Kuon Barkley, no one wishes are injuries. I 546 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 4: just don't think they're gonna be as fortunate to have 547 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 4: them as many weeks as they did last year. 548 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: I think that's I think that's completely and utterly fair. 549 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: When you're in the league, like when you're in Tampa, 550 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: there are times, you know, before they got the Buccaneers 551 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: and I know this is after you gets Tom Brady. 552 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: There's lots of years which nobody really pays attention to you. 553 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: Is that a good thing or a bad thing within 554 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: for organizations, not not for the ownership right, maybe not 555 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: for making money, but in terms of trying to op 556 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: operate on a daily basis is it better because like we. 557 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: Never talk about Seattle. We don't, I mean very rarely. 558 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: You know, they got Donold, they got a new coach. 559 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 3: We didn't talk about Seattle. 560 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: Jacksonville maybe a little bit just because Trevor Lawrence seemingly 561 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: has been disappointing at some point, like we expected. But 562 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: you know, how often do we talk about New Orleans? 563 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: How often do we talk even about Houston has been 564 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: a playoff team past two years. You've operated in the 565 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: times that they're paying attention in times they don't. What's 566 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: a better way to operate when you're a general manager? 567 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 4: Well, you know, shout out to Jason light getting his extensions. 568 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 4: He has, you know, he had to you know, kind 569 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 4: of walk through some tough years early on. But you 570 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 4: know what they've done in Tampa no one's talking about, right, 571 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 4: I mean, they've made the playoffs for five years in 572 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 4: a row. No one's ever done that, right or the 573 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 4: last what is it? They're the only NFC team to 574 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 4: make the playoffs five years in a row. That's a 575 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: heck of a statement. And yet you don't even think 576 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 4: about it. When you think about Tampa Bay, you're like, Okay, 577 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 4: they're good. But but I think you appreciate being like that. 578 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: I mean, maybe you feel in the moment Doug when 579 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 4: I was at GM in Tampa, but even when I 580 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 4: was there with you know, coach Dungee and Coach Cruden 581 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 4: and we were having ups and downs are really great seasons, obviously, 582 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 4: you never really felt like, you know, you're always like, well, 583 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 4: it's the Rodney Dangerfields kind of effected. 584 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 3: You're like, well, no respect. 585 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 4: Exactly, and so you feel that sometimes. But at the 586 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 4: same point, it's not bad to be in a bubble 587 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 4: where you're not the Jets, you're not the Eagles, You're 588 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 4: not this front page like what's wrong with you all 589 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 4: the time, even though you feel like that when you're 590 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 4: the gentleman of that football team. So John Schneider in Seattle, 591 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 4: he certainly feels the local stuff, but maybe the you know, 592 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 4: the the national stuff isn't quite the same. I think 593 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 4: it's good. I think it's helpful, even though sometimes again 594 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 4: you don't get to respect. I think it's actually helps 595 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 4: you be able to, you know, kind of work through 596 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 4: like the tough spots without feeling like everything every little 597 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 4: decisions made is being analyzed, whether you're the Chicago Bears 598 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 4: or the New York Giants or Jets. 599 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 2: Uh listen, uh, Mark, I got to ask you. I mean, 600 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: the talk early in the week was about how Mary's 601 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: Haliburton tearing his achilles tendon, and well it's had, you know, 602 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: three stars to hear their achilles tendon in the playoffs. 603 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: I thought a lot of guys showed their limited focus 604 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: in that this has been happening in the NFL now right. 605 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you have three quarterbacks Kirk Cousins, Aaron Rodgers, 606 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: and Sean Watson touring their achilles tendant, granted all in 607 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: their thirties, but still like we hadn't had that volume. 608 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: And then there are younger players tearing their achilles tendon. 609 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: Why why do you think it is? Well, just venture, 610 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: fairly educated guess on why this is kind of this injury, 611 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: which was very rare before, has become a little bit 612 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: more commonplace. 613 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 4: Well, part of it, I would say, quarterback wide, it's 614 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 4: probably not. I don't think it's like, well, the quarterbacks 615 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 4: are overtraining and therefore this I think it's because the 616 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 4: athletes are just for whatever however it's happening. Athletes are faster, bigger, stronger, 617 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 4: and so you know, just an extra little torque when 618 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 4: you get tackled the extull twister and you get knocked around. 619 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 4: Is putting strain on something because they're playing at such 620 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 4: a high level in a high speed. Now, I think 621 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 4: that that's what happens. I think the NBA is a 622 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 4: little bit that way in terms of like how you know, 623 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 4: it's not the physical game we grew up watching. I 624 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 4: grew up watching. It's it's a the NEETs and run 625 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: and gun kind of a thing, and so you know, 626 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 4: it's just a strain on that pendon. But I think 627 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 4: in the football, I think it's more because of you know, 628 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 4: the speed and the strength and power that we're seeing 629 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 4: from these young players. Are all these players and what 630 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 4: they're doing. Like I was just at the NFL Sacks 631 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 4: sum in Vegas. Literally just got home a couple hours ago, 632 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 4: but spent you know, two days out there in Las 633 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 4: Vegas with Max Crosby and Von Miller and Cam Jordan 634 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 4: and they're all working with you know, there was what 635 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 4: forty fifty young you know, defensive lineman, whether you're a 636 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 4: defensive tackle or a defensive end that are there and 637 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 4: they're just breaking down film and talking about how they 638 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 4: do that, how does Blan do this, how does Cam 639 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 4: do that? And then talking to the young guys about 640 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 4: what have you done? You know, where are you going 641 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 4: with your body? What are you doing? It's amazing, it's awesome, 642 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 4: and you think that that stuff never happened, and it's 643 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 4: you know, here are the guys. Everybody thinks like, well, 644 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 4: these players all after the fro mini camps, they go 645 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 4: home and now they're just kind of relaxing until they 646 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 4: get to kick, until they get the training camp. No, 647 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 4: the biggest guys are forty guys out there that were 648 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 4: working out in the UNLV's build, working on their pass rust, 649 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 4: then coming back and watching film from the elites of 650 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 4: best and getting coaching tips. That's where I think why 651 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 4: we see maybe more injuries, because these guys are training 652 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 4: at a crazy level trying to be the best they 653 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 4: can be. 654 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 3: That's Mark Dominic. 655 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: What's he know, He's only spent his entire professional life 656 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: in the Nation Football League kind of to spend some 657 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: time with us. Mark, thanks so much for joining us. 658 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. 659 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 4: Thanks, Doug Enjoy Weekend, Buddy. 660 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 661 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 6: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific. 662 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 2: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio Movement. 663 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: Let's get to the game. This is game time on 664 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: the Doug Gottlieb Show. 665 00:34:59,239 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: Mantie, what's the game? 666 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 6: Oh well, we're playing. 667 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 8: It's Friday. 668 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 6: So I got dis I got dabs. 669 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 8: Let's see how many DIBs we can get through here, Coach, 670 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 8: let's start. What player would you tune in to watch 671 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 8: the home run derby? There's right now two on the list. 672 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 8: It's Cal Rawly and Ronald Acuna Junior. You could pick 673 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 8: those two, but there's obviously others that are gonna participate. 674 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 3: We just don't know. 675 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,959 Speaker 8: So anybody got DIBs on who you'd want to watch 676 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 8: in the home run derby in Atlanta. 677 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 3: Full disclosure, can't stand the home un derby part. Really Yeah. 678 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 3: The old idea of a home run is that it occurs. 679 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 8: Like it's not right. Yeah, you have your dad throwing 680 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 8: to you, your buddy, you're this lobbing the ball. 681 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 9: I got DIBs on on our boy O'Neil Cruz. I 682 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 9: think of the top ten balls ever hit since they 683 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 9: recorded Exit V low. I think he's got like five 684 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 9: of them. 685 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 3: I got. I got divs on. 686 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 8: Hey o, Tawny if he I don't think he would 687 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 8: do it, but I mean, obviously Tony. I'll take DIBs 688 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 8: on Aaron Judge, Aaron Judge, why not? 689 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 4: Sam? 690 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 9: I got DIBs on Kyle Schwarbomb. 691 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 6: Kyle Schwarbomb. 692 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 8: Wow. Nice, I like it all right, guys, let's move 693 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 8: on here. What quarterback on a new team are you 694 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 8: excited to see next season? I will probably have the 695 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 8: most success, obviously Aaron Rodgers with the Steelers. I got 696 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 8: DIBs Sam Donald. I want to see what he does 697 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 8: in Seattle. 698 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 3: A new quarterback in a new place. Yeah, with that's. 699 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 8: Probably gonna have the most success. 700 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 2: You think I'm interested in Sam Donald, I'm interested in 701 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: Danny Dimes in Indy. 702 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 8: Wow? 703 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 3: Okay, what yeah? 704 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 9: I got on Aaron Rodgers. 705 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I forgot that Anyon Rodgers. 706 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 4: My bad. 707 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 3: I wasn't even thinking. 708 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 2: I was just I saw Danny Dimes. He's gonna beat 709 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 2: down Anthony Richardson. 710 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 3: I just I don't know. 711 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 2: I want to see if he if he's any good, 712 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 2: or if he stinks, or what the deal is, because 713 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 2: like he's meeting out Anthon Richardson already right now great 714 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 2: and Anthon Richard's got shoulder problems and he's not very good, 715 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 2: but I'm still kind of intrigued by it. 716 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 9: I got Dibbs and I don't know if he's gonna 717 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 9: actually succeed, but I'm interested in Geno Smith the Raiders 718 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 9: with Pete Carroll. I don't know if they'll succeed, but 719 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 9: it'll be something to watch. 720 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 3: Well, what what is succeeding? 721 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 4: Uh? 722 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 8: Yeah for the Raiders? 723 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 4: What is succeeding in record? Uh? 724 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 9: Playoffs? 725 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 8: Wow? 726 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 4: Wow? 727 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 8: Wow? 728 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 9: Uh? 729 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 6: Did you know Danny Dimes are a coach? 730 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 8: NFL Network had like a bold prediction and they're saying 731 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,879 Speaker 8: that Daniel Jones is gonna win Comeback Player of the Year. 732 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I just. 733 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 2: Got laughed at by uh, by Jason Stewart, although I 734 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: did forget Anon Rodgers. 735 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 3: It was it was knee jerk. 736 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 6: Is game top game on The Doug Gottlieb Show. 737 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: Quick, just just a quick game, just a just a 738 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 2: very quick quick game. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show 739 00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, coming up next on The 740 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb Show, you will not believe I thought I 741 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: had watching Supports last night. I'll share it with you 742 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 2: next on Doug Gotlieb Show.