WEBVTT - The Lowry War

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of I Heart Radio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tracy V. Wilson and I'm Holly Fry. Way back

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<v Speaker 1>in our colleague Christopher Hassiotis sent Holly and meet a

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<v Speaker 1>note about the Lowry War as an episode suggestion. This

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<v Speaker 1>isn't our first Christopher hassi otis episode suggestion that we've

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<v Speaker 1>done on the show He's Got. He sends very good ideas,

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<v Speaker 1>but it has taken me this long to do it

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<v Speaker 1>because my short list of topics that I keep talking

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<v Speaker 1>about has about three years of episodes on it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then in addition to having a quote short list of

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<v Speaker 1>three years of episodes, I also just frequently get sidetracked

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<v Speaker 1>off of it into stuff that's not even on there.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Lowry War is named for a group of

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<v Speaker 1>outlaws that was headed by Henry Barry Lowry, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are lots of different spellings for his name and consequently

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<v Speaker 1>different spellings for the war, so you'll see it l

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<v Speaker 1>O w r Y, l O w r I E,

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<v Speaker 1>l o w r e Y, and l O w

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<v Speaker 1>e r Y A lot of potential options there. Henry

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<v Speaker 1>Verry Lowry though was Lumby and the Lowry Gang, as

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<v Speaker 1>it became known, included other members of the Lumbi tribe

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<v Speaker 1>as well as black and white men, and they fought

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<v Speaker 1>against Confederate authorities in southeastern North Carolina during the U

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<v Speaker 1>s Civil War and then during reconstruction. They came to

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<v Speaker 1>be known or came to be viewed as either kind

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<v Speaker 1>of Robin Hood esque folk heroes or dangerous murderers and thieves,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on who you were asking. The Lowry War took

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<v Speaker 1>place in and around Robinson County, North Carolina. That's in

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<v Speaker 1>the southeastern part of the state, in a swampy region

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<v Speaker 1>around the Lumber River. Although Lumber is the river's official

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<v Speaker 1>name today, too many locals, including the Lumbi tribe, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the Lumbi. The origins of that name are a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit hazy, but it's sometimes described as coming from the

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<v Speaker 1>Algonquian term meaning dark water, and locals were using it

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<v Speaker 1>for the river by the early nineteenth century. This part

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<v Speaker 1>of North Carolina has been home to indigenous peoples for

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<v Speaker 1>nearly fifteen thousand years, and the Lumbi have lived there

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<v Speaker 1>for centuries. The Lumbi traced their ancestry to indigenous tribes

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<v Speaker 1>and nations from at least three different language groups who

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<v Speaker 1>have lived in what's now eastern North Carolina, southeastern Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>and northeastern South Carolina. And her books on Lumby history,

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<v Speaker 1>historian Melinda Maynor Lowry, who is Lumby, describes three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years of migration and cultural exchange taking place within this region.

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<v Speaker 1>Indigenous people and people who had liberated themselves from slavery

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<v Speaker 1>and white indentured servants and others all eventually settled and

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<v Speaker 1>what's now Robinson County for various reasons, including fleeing from

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<v Speaker 1>wars and diseases and persecution, and then together they formed

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<v Speaker 1>one tribe that is deeply connected to the ideas of

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<v Speaker 1>kinship and place. This tribe has been known by a

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<v Speaker 1>series of names over the years. During the period of

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<v Speaker 1>the Lowry Wars, they were often just called Indians or

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<v Speaker 1>described as a combination of multiple races. The state of

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina first recognized the tribe under the name croaton

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<v Speaker 1>in five Okay, if you're thinking, wait, isn't that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot like Croatoan? The word that was found carved into

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<v Speaker 1>a tree at the former site of the lost colony

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<v Speaker 1>of Roanoke. Yes. Hamilton McMillan, who introduced the legislation for

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<v Speaker 1>the state to recognize the tribe with this name, had

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<v Speaker 1>concluded that they were descended from survivors of the Lost Colony,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was based on his own research. Two other

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<v Speaker 1>formal name changes followed this before members of the tribe

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<v Speaker 1>chose the name name Lumby in ninetift two, drawing that

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<v Speaker 1>name from the place that the tribe calls home. There

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<v Speaker 1>are also people within this group who trace their ancestry

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Tuscarora and continue to use that name.

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<v Speaker 1>The Tuscarora were living mainly in what's now North Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>when Europeans started arriving in North America, and many of

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<v Speaker 1>them moved northward to join the Hood and Ashawnee Confederacy

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighteenth century. That was after the Tuscarora War.

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<v Speaker 1>In this episode, we're just going to stick to the

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<v Speaker 1>name Lumby, even though we are mostly talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>period before the tribe had chosen that name. This part

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<v Speaker 1>of North Carolina is isolated, which made it a good

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<v Speaker 1>place for people who were fleeing from wars or disease outbreaks,

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<v Speaker 1>or enslavement, or any number of other things to take

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<v Speaker 1>refuge and recover. It's also swampy, so it really wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>very appealing to European colonists. So during the Revolutionary War era,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Lumby ended up formally owning the land

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<v Speaker 1>that they are already living on and considered there's This

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<v Speaker 1>included being granted land by either the crown or the

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<v Speaker 1>State of North Carolina, sometimes in exchange for service to

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<v Speaker 1>one or the other, or for military service. By their

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<v Speaker 1>early nineteenth century, many Lumby owned their land outright as individuals,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than living on land that belonged to the tribe

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<v Speaker 1>collectively or was outlined in a treaty with the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>From about the eighteen twenties through the eighteen fifties, the

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<v Speaker 1>US government systematically removed indigenous peoples from the eastern part

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<v Speaker 1>of the country to land west of the Mississippi River.

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<v Speaker 1>We have talked about this in some of our previous episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>including our twenty eighteen episode on the Georgia gold Rush

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<v Speaker 1>and our twenty nineteen two part on the occupation of Alcatraz.

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<v Speaker 1>This process involved federal laws such as the Indian Removal

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<v Speaker 1>Act of eighteen thirty and multiple Supreme Court cases and

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<v Speaker 1>exploitive treaties between the United States and indigenous nations, and

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<v Speaker 1>forced displacements. During this period, multiple indigenous nations that had

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<v Speaker 1>historically lived in what's now North Carolina were forced to move,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes literally at gunpoint. This included the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek,

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<v Speaker 1>and Seminole nations, who were forced to move more than

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand miles to what's now Oklahoma. Although some resisted

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<v Speaker 1>and stayed behind. This removal was an active genocide, and

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<v Speaker 1>nearly a quarter of the people who were forced to

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<v Speaker 1>move died as a result of it. The Lumby, however,

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<v Speaker 1>were largely protected from this removal. Many of the nations

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<v Speaker 1>that the federal government forcibly removed during this period were

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<v Speaker 1>living on land that was valuable in some way, so

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<v Speaker 1>there was gold there or timber or prime farming land.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Lumby were mostly living among the swamps on

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<v Speaker 1>land that wasn't considered particularly valuable, and as we've said,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them owned that land outright as individuals

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<v Speaker 1>through documentation that the government recognized as legal. That didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make it impossible for anybody to take their land, but

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<v Speaker 1>it did make it more challenging to do so, and

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<v Speaker 1>also from a legal perspective, at this point, the Lumbie

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<v Speaker 1>weren't legally classified as Indians. North Carolina revised its constitution

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen thirty five, and under that constitution and various laws,

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<v Speaker 1>the Lumby were considered free persons of color. So even

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<v Speaker 1>though they weren't forced off their land as many other

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<v Speaker 1>tribes were, they also were not treated as equal citizens

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<v Speaker 1>of the state. For example, free people of color were

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed to vote in North Carolina, and although this

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<v Speaker 1>law didn't specifically mentioned the indigenous people of Robinson County,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people interpreted this provision as applying to them.

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<v Speaker 1>In eighteen fifty four, North Carolina also passed a law

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<v Speaker 1>that voided marriages between a white person and a free

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<v Speaker 1>person of color if that marriage had taken place since

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen thirty nine. That applied to a lot of Lumby marriages.

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<v Speaker 1>These and other laws followed Nat Turner's Rebellion of eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one, which was an uprising of enslaved people in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>Authorities were deeply fearful of a similar uprising taking place

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<v Speaker 1>in other slave states, and so they passed a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of laws to restrict any kind of rites that free

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<v Speaker 1>black people might have, and then more broadly free people

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<v Speaker 1>of color. When the US Civil War started in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one, North Carolina was a slave state, but the

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<v Speaker 1>state and the people living in it were divided over

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<v Speaker 1>whether to secede and support the Confederacy or to remain

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<v Speaker 1>part of the United States, and this included the Lumby

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<v Speaker 1>Although at least one Lumby family had historically owned slaves,

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<v Speaker 1>most Lumbi supported the Union, even though free people of

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<v Speaker 1>color had to have a special permit to carry web

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<v Speaker 1>in North Carolina. Lumby people served on both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the war. Some went to another state or passed for

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<v Speaker 1>white to enlist, and some may have just found a

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<v Speaker 1>recruiter who didn't know or didn't care about that prohibition.

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<v Speaker 1>In eighteen sixty two, the Confederate Army started fortifying Fort

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<v Speaker 1>Fisher at the mouth of the Cape Pier River as

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<v Speaker 1>protection for the nearby port of Wilmington's. This was an

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<v Speaker 1>earthen fortification, so it's construction and maintenance were both labor

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<v Speaker 1>intensive and dangerous. At first. A lot of this work

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<v Speaker 1>was done by Confederate soldiers and enslaved Africans. Diseases were rampant,

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<v Speaker 1>especially malaria, dysentery, and yellow fever, which could be deadly. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>landowners started refusing to send their enslaved labor to work

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<v Speaker 1>on the fort because of all this, and at that

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<v Speaker 1>point the Confederates started conscripting indigenous people to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly the Lumbi. Although there were a few you lumby

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<v Speaker 1>who willingly went to work on the fort, most did

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<v Speaker 1>not want to be forced to travel to the coast

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<v Speaker 1>to do difficult, dangerous work for a military they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even support, and possibly get sick or die in the process.

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<v Speaker 1>So many responded by lying out in the swamps. As

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<v Speaker 1>we said earlier, the swamps were easy to hide in,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you had lived there your whole life and

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<v Speaker 1>had your own ancestral knowledge to help you navigate. But

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<v Speaker 1>this made life difficult for the men who were lying

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<v Speaker 1>out and for their families. Whether you usually worked your

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<v Speaker 1>on your own land or somewhere else, you couldn't if

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<v Speaker 1>you were hiding out from the Confederates. All this fed

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<v Speaker 1>directly into the Lowry War, which people gets you after

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<v Speaker 1>a sponsor break. During the Civil War, Alan and Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Lowry were two of the most affluent and prominent of

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<v Speaker 1>the Lumby people in Robinson County. Their family was large.

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<v Speaker 1>They had twelve children, almost all of them were sons.

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<v Speaker 1>Allan was a church leader and also ran a successful farm,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was also under a lot of suspicion from

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<v Speaker 1>the Home Guard. The North Carolina General Assembly had established

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<v Speaker 1>the Home Guard in eighteen sixty three, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>made up of men who for whatever reason, were exempt

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<v Speaker 1>from military service. The Home Guard was tasked with things

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<v Speaker 1>like finding deserters and guardings strategic points within the state,

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<v Speaker 1>helping to protect the local people, but in some areas

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<v Speaker 1>they really had a reputation for harassing or even terrorizing

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<v Speaker 1>the local community. This is a big plot point in

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<v Speaker 1>the book and movie Cold Mountain if anyone is familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with that. The Home Guard accused Alan Lowry and other

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<v Speaker 1>Lumby of harboring Union sympathizers and Confederate deserters and of

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<v Speaker 1>things like stealing, and some of this really was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, Lumby Territory wasn't far from a stockade in Florence,

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina, and Union soldiers who escaped from there often

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<v Speaker 1>wound up with the Lumby, including with the Lowry's. In

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<v Speaker 1>December of eighteen sixty four, someone stole two pigs from

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<v Speaker 1>James P. Barnes, who was a wealthy landowner and a

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<v Speaker 1>slaveholder and a Confederate official. Barnes didn't live far away

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<v Speaker 1>from Alan and Mary Lowry, and he thought one of

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<v Speaker 1>the Lowrys had done it. Basically they didn't have food

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<v Speaker 1>because they were lying out in the swamp, and said

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<v Speaker 1>they stole his pigs. Possible culprit in Barnes's mind was

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<v Speaker 1>their son, Henry Barry Lowry, who at about eighteen, was

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<v Speaker 1>one of their youngest children. Barnes supported the Home Guard

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to round up the Lowry's, many of whom

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<v Speaker 1>were lying out in the swamp. On December one, eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty four, Barnes was shot in an ambush, and before

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<v Speaker 1>he died he said that Henry Barry Lowry and two

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<v Speaker 1>other men had done it. Not long after Barnes was killed,

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<v Speaker 1>j Brantley Harris, known as Brandt, shot and killed Jarman Lowry,

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<v Speaker 1>who was one of Henry Barry Lowry's cousins. Harris was

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<v Speaker 1>a conscription officer for the Home Guard, and while the

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<v Speaker 1>details on all of this are a little fuzzy. He

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<v Speaker 1>seems to have mistaken German for one of the other Lowry's.

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<v Speaker 1>Two of Jarman's brothers, Wesley and the Lalon, had been

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<v Speaker 1>working at Fort Fisher and they came home on furlough.

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<v Speaker 1>Harris claimed that they were both deserters, and so when

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<v Speaker 1>both of them were killed, most people thought Harris was

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<v Speaker 1>the person responsible. Although a grand jury charged Harris and

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<v Speaker 1>their deaths, he wasn't arrested for it, so the Lowry's

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the other lumby were outraged. Then

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<v Speaker 1>on January sixty five, Brant Harris was killed, presumably Henry

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Lowry or one of his brothers, in retaliation for

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<v Speaker 1>Harris having killed Jarman. Wesley, and little Allen Lowry had

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<v Speaker 1>done it. In some accounts, this all circled back to

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<v Speaker 1>the pigs that had been stolen from James p Arns,

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<v Speaker 1>and Harris had been investigating that theft when he was killed.

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<v Speaker 1>After this, Henry Barry Lowry and some of his brothers

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<v Speaker 1>stole some guns and ammunition, and they turned their attention

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<v Speaker 1>to the wealthy white farmers of the area, especially wealthy

0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:19.560
<v Speaker 1>white farmers who were clearly supporting the Confederacy. On February

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen sixty five, a group of Flowers, along with some

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<v Speaker 1>escape Union soldiers, raided one of the wealthiest farms in

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<v Speaker 1>the area, which belonged to the McNair family. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>that family were at home, along with several Confederate soldiers,

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<v Speaker 1>and although there was an exchange of gunfire during all

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<v Speaker 1>of this, it doesn't appear that anybody was killed. The

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<v Speaker 1>McNair's and their guests eventually surrendered, and then the gang

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<v Speaker 1>stole things like food, blankets, and other supplies from the

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<v Speaker 1>farm and then distributed them to the poorest people in

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<v Speaker 1>the area where they lived. At this point, that area

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<v Speaker 1>had been given the derisive nickname of Scuffletown, although the

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<v Speaker 1>lumby usually called it the Settlement. On March three, the

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<v Speaker 1>Home Guard rallied a mob of about one hundred people

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<v Speaker 1>and went to Alan Lowry's home. The Home Guard claimed

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<v Speaker 1>to find stolen property there, and they put Alan Lowry

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<v Speaker 1>on trial along with his sons, Calvin Sinclair and William,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of their neighbors. The Home Guard held Allan's wife,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary and some of the other women in the family

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<v Speaker 1>captive in a smoke house. During and after the trial,

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<v Speaker 1>questioning them about the whereabouts of other Lowry's. After this

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<v Speaker 1>sham trial, everyone but Allen and William was allowed to go,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Home Guard executed Allen and William by firing

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<v Speaker 1>squad Henry Barry Lowry reportedly witnessed this execution from the bushes.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, General William T. Sherman and the Union

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<v Speaker 1>Army were moving north. This was after Sherman's march to

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<v Speaker 1>the Sea at the end of eighteen sixty four and

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<v Speaker 1>his capture of the South Carolina capital of Columbia in

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<v Speaker 1>February of eighteen sixty five. Around Mark ninth, the army

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<v Speaker 1>was near Lumby Territory, bogged down by heavy rain in

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<v Speaker 1>the swampy terrain, some of the Lumbi, including some of

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<v Speaker 1>the Lowry gang, guided Sherman's troops through the swamp and

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<v Speaker 1>across the Lumber River. After the army had moved through,

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<v Speaker 1>a Lumbie man named Hector Oxendine was murdered by White

0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:23.520
<v Speaker 1>planters for having helped them. General Robert E. Lee surrendered

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<v Speaker 1>on April ninth, eighteen sixty five, which is often marked

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<v Speaker 1>as the end of the Civil War, even though the

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<v Speaker 1>fighting continued for some time. After that, Henry Berry Lowry

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<v Speaker 1>and his gang continued to rob wealthy planters and raid

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<v Speaker 1>their farms, and they evaded capture for months. On December seven,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen sixty five, Lowry got married to Rhoda Strong, whose

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<v Speaker 1>father was Scottish and whose mother was Lumby, and the

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<v Speaker 1>militia tried to take him into custody at his own wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>falsely claiming that they had a warrant for his arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>There were about two hundred guests at that wedding and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people left after the militia five, but

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<v Speaker 1>this still turned into a standoff in front of a crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>It ended when the Justice of the Peace, who was

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<v Speaker 1>officiating the wedding, that was a white man named Hector McLean,

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<v Speaker 1>offered to be arrested along with Lowry, and both of

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<v Speaker 1>them were escorted away. The militia did not think the

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<v Speaker 1>local jail was secure enough, so they took Lowry to

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<v Speaker 1>nearby Whiteville. Turned out that jail was not secure enough either,

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<v Speaker 1>because he escaped from it. According to some accounts, Rota

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<v Speaker 1>brought him a cake with a file in it. At

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<v Speaker 1>this point, the United States was moving into the post

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<v Speaker 1>war reconstruction period with attempts to both recover and rebuild

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<v Speaker 1>after the war and to rectify the inequities that resulted

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<v Speaker 1>from the institution of slavery. Congress passed laws and constitutional

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<v Speaker 1>amendments to try to protect the civil rights of previously

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<v Speaker 1>enslaved people and others of African descent. Since North Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>had seceded from the United States, it was required to

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<v Speaker 1>write a new state constant tuition and to ratify the

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<v Speaker 1>Thirteenth and fourteenth Amendments to the U s Constitution before

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<v Speaker 1>it could be readmitted to the Union. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the indigenous people living in and around Robinson County thought

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<v Speaker 1>their lives would get better during this process. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them, even most of them, had supported the Union

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<v Speaker 1>even after North Carolina had succeeded. People in the tribe

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<v Speaker 1>had also sheltered escaped Union prisoners of war. They directly

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<v Speaker 1>aided Sherman in his move through the area, and there

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<v Speaker 1>were some changes. The Reconstruction Acts of eighteen sixty seven

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<v Speaker 1>required the new state constitutions to include universal manhood suffrage,

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<v Speaker 1>so North Carolina's eighteen sixty eight constitution restored voting rights

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<v Speaker 1>for Lumbie men. There was a pause in the Lowry

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<v Speaker 1>Gang's raids around this time. The general conclusion is that

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<v Speaker 1>Lowry and others hope that by being able to vote,

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<v Speaker 1>they would be able to make the changes they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to see in the government and in their own line house.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, the Lumbi were also largely

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<v Speaker 1>excluded from the Reconstruction era policies, programs, and assistance that

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<v Speaker 1>were meant to help bring racial, economic, and political equality

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<v Speaker 1>to the newly freed people. Overall, radical Republicans who were

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<v Speaker 1>driving these kinds of programs were focused on people of

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<v Speaker 1>African descent rather than on indigenous people, and even though

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<v Speaker 1>some of the Lumbi did have some African ancestry, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were people living at the time who thought that

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<v Speaker 1>the tribe as a whole were mixed race or even black,

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<v Speaker 1>they were largely overlooked. So by late eighteen sixty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>as North Carolina's new constitution was still being drafted, the

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<v Speaker 1>Lowry Gang, presumably frustrated by this lack of progress, went

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<v Speaker 1>back to rating. Or at least somebody started robbing stores

0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and plantations in the area, and most people thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was the Lowry's. People started demanding that the Lowry Gang

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<v Speaker 1>be declared outlaws and brought to justice Henry Berry. Lowry

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<v Speaker 1>events we agreed to turn himself in after being promised

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<v Speaker 1>a fair trial, but soon there were rumors that he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be killed, that basically a lynch mob

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<v Speaker 1>was going to get him out of his cell and

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<v Speaker 1>drown him. Somehow he managed to get a knife and

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<v Speaker 1>a gun and he broke out of jail on December twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen sixty eight, when he was brought his evening meal.

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<v Speaker 1>After Lowry's escape, the situation became increasingly violent after the

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<v Speaker 1>deaths of James P. Barnes and Brant Harris in late

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen sixty four. In early eighteen sixty five, no one

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<v Speaker 1>had been killed in the gang's raids, but between January

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<v Speaker 1>of eighteen sixty nine and June of eighteen seventy one,

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<v Speaker 1>multiple prominent people in and around Robinson County were killed,

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<v Speaker 1>and those murders were pinned on the Lowry Gang. This

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<v Speaker 1>included Robinson County Sheriff Reuben King, who was killed in

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<v Speaker 1>March of eighteen sixty nine, and Colonel Owen Normant who

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<v Speaker 1>was killed in March of eighteen seventy. At least twenty

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<v Speaker 1>deaths are attributed to the regang during this period, the

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<v Speaker 1>vast majority of them Democrats or former Confederate officials, Although

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<v Speaker 1>many were believed to have been involved in the execution

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<v Speaker 1>of Allen and William Lowry, or we're bounty hunters trying

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<v Speaker 1>to bring the Lowry's in, or were spies trying to

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<v Speaker 1>infiltrate the gang. A few were essentially bystanders. We get

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<v Speaker 1>to how the Lowry War ended after another sponsor break.

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<v Speaker 1>By eighteen sixty nine, opinions about the Lowry Gang were divided. Too.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of the poorest people in Robinson County they were

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<v Speaker 1>Robin hood asked heroes, not only robbing from the rich

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<v Speaker 1>and giving to the poor, but also exacting vengeance from

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<v Speaker 1>people who had been oppressing them. Wealthy white landowners, on

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<v Speaker 1>the other hand, generally thought they were murderous thieves. The

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Party, which was in charge of the North Carolina

0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:03.719
<v Speaker 1>legislature at this point, was divided as well. Some vehemently

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<v Speaker 1>denounced the violence and especially the killing, while others saw

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<v Speaker 1>it more as the inevitable outcome of the long history

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<v Speaker 1>of oppression in the area, and even as something that

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<v Speaker 1>might be necessary for the lumby to reach their political goals.

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<v Speaker 1>In the end, though, the Republican Party took a law

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<v Speaker 1>and order approach, focusing on the need to end the

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<v Speaker 1>violence and to bring the Lowry Gang to justice, and

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<v Speaker 1>they made their arguments with some false equivalence, drawing parallels

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<v Speaker 1>between the Lowry Gang and the Ku Klux Klan, equating

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<v Speaker 1>the gang's targeting of former Confederate officials with the clan's

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<v Speaker 1>campaign of intimidation and terror against the state's non white population.

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<v Speaker 1>On March five, eight sixty nine, Judge Daniel L. Russell Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>Issued a proclamation of outlawry. It declared that quote one

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Barry Lowry one, Andrew Strong one Boss Strong, one,

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<v Speaker 1>Shoemaker John one, John Dial one William Chavis of Robinson

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<v Speaker 1>County have committed sundry and diverse murders, burglaries, robberies and

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<v Speaker 1>other felonies. And that said Henry Berry, Lowry, Andrew Strong,

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<v Speaker 1>Boss Strong, Shoemaker, John John Dial and William Chavis do

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<v Speaker 1>conceal themselves and evade arrest and service of the usual

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<v Speaker 1>process of law. Now Therefore, I the said Daniel L.

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Jr. Judge, as aforesaid, by virtue of the authority

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<v Speaker 1>vested in me by an Act of the General Assembly

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<v Speaker 1>in such case made and provided, do issue this my

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<v Speaker 1>proclamation hereby requiring the said Henry Berry, Lowry, Andrew Strong,

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<v Speaker 1>Boss Strong, Shoemaker, John John Dial, and William Chavis, and

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<v Speaker 1>each and every one of them forthwith to surrender themselves

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<v Speaker 1>to the Sheriff of Robinson County or to any other

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<v Speaker 1>sheriff or lawful officer of the state. And I do

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<v Speaker 1>also empower and require the Sheriff of Robinson County or

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<v Speaker 1>of any other county where the said felons are to

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<v Speaker 1>lurk and conceal themselves, to search for and pursue with

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<v Speaker 1>all power of the county and effectually apprehend said fugitives

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<v Speaker 1>from justice. It went on to say, quote, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do further declare that if the said fugitives, or any

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<v Speaker 1>of them continue henceforth to stay out, lark, or conceal themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>and do not immediately surrender themselves, any citizen of the

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<v Speaker 1>State may capture, arrest and bring them or him to justice,

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<v Speaker 1>And in case of flight or resistance, after being called

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<v Speaker 1>on and warned to surrender, may slay them or any

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<v Speaker 1>one of them, without accusation or impeachment of any crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Bounties were announced for the Lowry Gang, including one of

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thousand dollars for Henry Barry Lowry, who was to

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<v Speaker 1>be brought in debt or alive. The Governor of North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina also asked for help from federal troops, and those

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<v Speaker 1>troops arrived in November of eighteen seventy A posse was

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<v Speaker 1>also formed hunt for the gang, and there was a

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<v Speaker 1>series of shootings, ambushes, and other violence. In February of

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen seventy one, Henderson Oxendine was captured within the Lumbi community.

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<v Speaker 1>He's believed to have intentionally allowed himself to be caught

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 1>with the hope that he could take the blame for

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<v Speaker 1>the gang's activities. He was tried, convicted, and executed for

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<v Speaker 1>killing a man named Steve Davis, who had been killed

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>during a confrontation with the gang. Later in eighteen seventy one,

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<v Speaker 1>Francis Marion Wishart captured the wives of several members of

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<v Speaker 1>the Lowry Gang, basically holding them hostage unless the gang

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<v Speaker 1>surrendered themselves. Henry Berry Lowry and some of the other

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 1>men replied to this threat with a note on July fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>demanding that the women be released by that Monday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise quote, the bloodiest times will be here than ever

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 1>was before, the life of every man will be in jeopardy.

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<v Speaker 1>And the end the women were all let go, and

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<v Speaker 1>to like that attempt to arrest Henry Berry Lowry at

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<v Speaker 1>his own wedding. This whole incident wound up bringing the

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Lowry Gang even more popular appeal. On February sixteenth, eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two, there was a raid on Pope in McLeod's

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<v Speaker 1>store in Lumberton, North Carolina, and thieves also stole a

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<v Speaker 1>safe from the sheriff's office. Together they got away with

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty thousand dollars and Henry Berry Lowry disappeared. Not

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<v Speaker 1>long after that, word spread that he had died, possibly

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<v Speaker 1>by an accidental self inflicted gunshot, but there were also

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stories about a possible escape and where

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<v Speaker 1>he may have gone afterward. In one he went all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to the West coast, was part of the

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<v Speaker 1>Modoc War between the Modoc people in the U. S.

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<v Speaker 1>Army in eighteen seventy two. In eighteen seventy three, regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>he was never captured, and that twelve thousand dollar reward

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<v Speaker 1>went unclaimed, although the violence continued in North Carolina after

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Henry berry Low's disappearance. Over time, most of the rest

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>of the gang either disappeared or were killed or captured.

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Francis Wishart was killed in May of eighteen seventy two

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:13.719
<v Speaker 1>after having agreed to a meeting with Stephen Lowry and

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Strong. The end of the Lowry War is usually

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<v Speaker 1>marked us sometime in February of eighteen seventy four, when

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Steve Lowry was killed by a bounty hunter. A year

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<v Speaker 1>after that, Mary C. Normant, who was the widow of

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<v Speaker 1>Colonel Owen Norman, who the gang had previously killed, she

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<v Speaker 1>published a history of the Lowry Band, which is both

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<v Speaker 1>the earliest written account of all this uh and also

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 1>really unfavorable in the treatment of the Lowry's, unsurprisingly given

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>that they murdered her husband. Over these years, the Lowry

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<v Speaker 1>Gang had become famous notorious outlaws. Frank and Jesse James

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 1>claimed to be members. At some point their activities were

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<v Speaker 1>covered in national newspapers like The New York Times and

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Harper's Weekly published a write up on March thirtieth, eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two. In more recent years, The musical drama Strike

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<v Speaker 1>at the Wind made its debut on July one, nineteen

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>seventy six, after years of work on it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>written by a white playwright, but it involved the work

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>of a tri racial organization and planning committee, and it

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 1>was a mostly Indigenous production. There were other dramatic productions

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>before this point, but most of them were biographical treatments

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>focused on Henry Berry Lowry, and this was focused more

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>generally on the Lowry War. The hope was that this

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>play would provide a sense of cultural cohesion and pride

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>among the Lumby and educate non Lumby about Lumby culture

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>and history, and there were hopes that it would become

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 1>an ongoing tourist attraction, like some of North Carolina's other

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>outdoor historical dramas. This includes The Lost Colony, which started

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>in the thirties, and Unto These Hills, which is about

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Cherokee history up through the removal, and that was first

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<v Speaker 1>performed in the fifties, although that didn't happen, and the

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>play was performed annually for about ten years, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it returned in seventeen after a ten year hiatus. Yeah,

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I think if either is being performed or has been

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<v Speaker 1>performed for some showings this year. Um I do not

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<v Speaker 1>remember if that was before or after this episode will

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>be out there. Some historians have concluded that the Lowry

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<v Speaker 1>Gang and the government's response to the gang had an

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<v Speaker 1>enormous impact on North Carolina politics towards the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteenth century, with the Republican Party's division over how

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<v Speaker 1>to handle it, and then the ultimate decision to take

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>a law and order approach, leading the Lumbi vote to

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>swing towards the Democrats and then hastening the Democrats returns

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>to power in North Carolina, and the Lumbi tribe continues

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>to be influential in North Carolina politics. North Carolina is

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<v Speaker 1>a swing state, and the tribe has been described as

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<v Speaker 1>a group of swing voters within that state. In there

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>were so many news reports about how Robinson County had

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<v Speaker 1>been quote a Democratic stronghold before voting for Donald Trump

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>in and electing Trump by an even larger margin in

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<v Speaker 1>One of the factors that was cited in this Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>announcement that he supported the Lumby Recognition Act. That's an

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<v Speaker 1>act that would grant the tribe full recognition by the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government. Because currently the Lumbi tribe is not fully

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<v Speaker 1>federally recognized. In ninety six, President Dwight Eisenhower signed a

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<v Speaker 1>law that recognized the Lumbi as an Indian tribe, but

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<v Speaker 1>quote nothing in this Act shall make such Indians eligible

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>for any services performed by the United States for Indians

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>because of their status as Indians, and none of the

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>statutes of the United States which affect Indians because of

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>their status as Indians shall be applicable to the Lumbi Indians.

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<v Speaker 1>This makes the Lumbi the largest non federally recognized tribe

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>in the United States, with fifty five enrolled members and

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>seventy thousand people identifying as Lumby or part Lumby in

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>census records. Although many Lumbi live in and around Robinson

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>County today, there are also significant Lumby communities in other

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>parts of the US, including Baltimore, Detroit, and Philadelphia. Although

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that nineteen fifty six legislation barred the Lumby from most

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>federal programs, many took part in the Urban Relocation Program

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that was a federal program to move indigenous people out

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 1>of reservations and into cities. This was another attempt to

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>get Indigenous people to assimilate with white society. Today, Baltimore

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>is home to the largest Lumbi community outside of North

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Carolina as a result of that program. The idea of

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>federal recognition for the Lumbi tribe has been controversial. Legislation

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 1>has been reintroduced at the federal level a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>times over the last few years, and each time there

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>have been vocal opponents to it, including in some cases

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 1>from the leaders of other indigenous nations. For example, in

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty Principal Chief Richard's Need of the Eastern Band of

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Cherokee Indians argued against federal recognition for the Lumbi before

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the House Subcommittee for Indigenous Peoples. Sneed cited a number

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>of reasons for this opposition. One of the tribes earlier

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>names that we talked about in the top of the

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 1>show was the Cherokee Indians of Robinson County, a name

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>that was outlined in a law introduced by a white legislator,

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>but also had the support of some members of the tribe.

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Another reason is that federal law generally recognizes indigenous nations

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>that have a governing body and political structure that predates

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>the establishment of the United States, but the Lumby have

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>described themselves as an amalgamation of multiple tribes and language

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 1>groups that came together in one geographic area. Sneed's testimony

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>before the House also contends that the Lumby have no

0:32:55.600 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>indigenous ancestry. Obviously very complicated. Sneat is not the only

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>person who has um spoken out against this recognition. That

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>is just the congressional testimony that I had access to.

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<v Speaker 1>Most recently, this legislation to recognize the Lumbie has passed

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the House. It was received in the Senate in November one.

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>This legislation would strike out section two of that act

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>that had been signed into law in nineteen fifty six.

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 1>That was the section that specified that the recognition didn't

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>extend to the tribe receiving any benefits as an indigenous nation.

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 1>So this would extend federal recognition to the tribe and

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>quote all laws and regulations of the United States of

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>general application to Indians and Indian Tribes shall apply to

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the tribe and its members. As a side note, something

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>else that has been on Tracy's shortlist forever is the

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Battle of Hayes Pond. That is the name given to

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>a nine eight incident in which the ku Klux Klan

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 1>was planning a rally in Maxed in, North Carolina, which

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>is partly local aided in Robinson County. Fifty or so

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>klansmen arrived for the rally, where they were vastly outnumbered

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>by hundreds of Lumbie, many of them armed. After someone

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 1>shot out the one light bulb the clan had for illumination,

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>they fled and although other gunfire was exchanged, no one

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>was killed. Yeah. One of the reasons that's never made

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:25.280
<v Speaker 1>it into a full episode is that, um that's without

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 1>all the context that we just covered here. That is, uh,

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 1>that's most of the story. But it is one that

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:33.839
<v Speaker 1>the Lumby take a whole lot of bride in and

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>is generally described as like the Lumby running the clan

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 1>out of North Carolina. So that is the Lowry War.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a listener, Manil as well? I do.

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I have listener mail from a net. Annette wrote and said, Hi,

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.439
<v Speaker 1>Holly and Tracy, my husband and I have the good

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<v Speaker 1>fortune but to be traveling to Germany in Austria in September,

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and I wondered if there are a past podcast related

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:59.879
<v Speaker 1>to Munich Salzburg Halstat milk Abbey, the Habsburg's Vienna. It's

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<v Speaker 1>ra I missed the archive. I also wanted to share

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.359
<v Speaker 1>a couple of things related to recent podcasts I think

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you will find interesting. The first item relates to William

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 1>marsh Rice. My husband and I are both alumni of

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Rice University and have been following with interest the work

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>of Rice's Task Force on Slavery, Segregation and Racial Injustice.

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>One of the co chairs, Alex Bird, is a friend

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>of ours. Among the task forces changes was what to

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 1>do with the Founder's statue that is in the main

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:32.240
<v Speaker 1>campus quadrangle. You can read more at the links below.

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<v Speaker 1>The second item is a sculpture that was inspired by

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:40.280
<v Speaker 1>the Laocoon. The work is by the South African artist

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>when both the end is entitled Prism ten Dead Laocoon.

0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:47.240
<v Speaker 1>We've seen it a two different hotels. It's very powerful,

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>sea below and attached REALOK. Forward to another live show

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>in Houston when you're touring again. I was the one

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 1>who gave you a postcard from the Mutual Museum. This

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>is from Anette, so thank you so much. Annette. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to read this because number one I had missed

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that update. About Rice University's decision to move the statue

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>of the founder William marsh Rice to another place. That

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>is something that we had talked about briefly in that episode,

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and so that is a decision that was made earlier

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>this year to relocate that statue. Uh. The other thing

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:24.719
<v Speaker 1>is I also missed the archive, even though our old

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 1>website went away at this point, I feel like three

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>or four years ago. It was before the pandemic that

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the old website went away. We'll still occasionally get emails

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 1>from folks saying something like, what happened to the old

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 1>website and we no longer have it? And it was

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>it was not within our ability to change. We also

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 1>missed the archive, but our archive wasn't quite granular enough

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>to have made it I think easy to find episode

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts related to these particular places related to German in Austria.

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 1>UM so I did dig up a few. We have

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on Rudolph the second of Austria and Empress Cissy

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Lola Montez tangentially related also a fun listen uh, and

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>then Maria Anna Mozart would be classified as related to that. Also.

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:21.400
<v Speaker 1>We've said this before on the show, but at this point,

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the easiest way to find episodes on specific topics is

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<v Speaker 1>either to use a podcast player that's searchable, because our

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 1>our website is not, or to google the topic that

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for along with the words stuffy miss in

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:40.800
<v Speaker 1>history class. I have found that recently the Google algorithm

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<v Speaker 1>just as also wants me to have the word I

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<v Speaker 1>heart in there, because nothing can be easy. Um so

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>that would bring up things like Germany and Austria if

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 1>they were referenced in the episode description. The tags that

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 1>we used for the episodes were not ever something that

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<v Speaker 1>was part of the actual RSS feeds, So even though

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>they were are part of the old website, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that is like facing users anymore. And it

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<v Speaker 1>also wasn't quite as granular as the topics that Annett

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<v Speaker 1>asked for suggestions related to. So thank you again, Annette

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