1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Welcome. In his verdict was Senator Ted Cruz ben Ferguson 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: with you the headline, Senator, and I want to get 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: your reaction to this. It's something you've been talking about, 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: literally now for years, the lab leak and that theory 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: of the Wuhunt Insuit of virology they're now admitting is 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: most likely the origin of the COVID nineteen pandemic. I 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: wish I could say that we're shocked. Were not, And 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: anyone that said this early on you were included, was 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist. Give me your initial reaction to this. Well, 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: we now have yet another part of the Biden administration 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: admitting what I think has been blazingly obvious for a 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: long time, which is that the COVID virus very likely 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: escaped from a Chinese government lab. Just in the last 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: twenty four hours, the Biden Energy Department, the news has broken, 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: has concluded that that is the likely source of COVID. Now, 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: you didn't have to wait until twenty twenty three to 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: find that out. This podcast has been laying out the 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: facts that connect the COVID virus to the Wuhan Institute 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: for Virology, to the Chinese government labs in Wuhan, China, 20 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: laying out the facts and fighting against the deliberate disinformation 21 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: from democrats, from the media, from big tech, and from 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: the Chinese government itself, with the American government often arm 23 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: in arm in spreading disinformation and trying to squash what 24 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: the facts actually demonstrate. I want to play for people 25 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: something that is probably not going to be played anywhere else, 26 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: and it's something that we wanted to do today. To 27 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: go back in time to remind you of this narrative. 28 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: And if you go back to February the ninth of 29 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, the defense that was taking place by China 30 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: was if you point the finger at us, if you 31 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: point the finger at the Wihan suit of virology, you 32 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: are a racist. You are trying to turn people against 33 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: people that are Chinese, and you are a bigoted individual. 34 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: This happened on Face the Nation February the nine, twenty twenty. 35 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: The ambassador from China was a guest, and I want 36 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: everyone to hear this. Take a listen. And in fact, 37 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: this week Senator Tom Cotton, who sits on the Senate 38 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Intelligence and Armed Services Committee, suggested that the virus may 39 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: have come from China's biological warfare program. That's an extraordinary charge. 40 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: How do you respond to that. I think it's true 41 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: that a lot is still unknown, and our scientists, Chinese scientists, 42 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: American scientists, scientists of either country are doing that best 43 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: to learn more about the virus. But it's very harmful. 44 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: It's very dangerous to still up suspicion rumors and spread 45 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: them among the people. For one thing, this will create panic. 46 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: Another thing is that it will fend up racial discriminations, eniophobia, 47 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: all these things that will really harm our young efforts 48 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: to combat the virus. Of course, there are all kinds 49 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: of speculations and rumors. There are people who are saying 50 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: that these virus are coming from some military lab not 51 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: of China, maybe in the United States. How can we 52 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: believe all these craziest things? Do you think it's crazy? 53 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: Where did the absolutely crazy? Where did the virus come from? 54 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: We still don't know yet. It's probably, according to some 55 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: initial outcome of the research, probably coming from some animals, 56 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: but we have to discover them all about it. We 57 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: know that to lie now, and we know the entire time, 58 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: not only to China, lie to the rest of the world, 59 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: but many within our own media center we're trying to 60 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: sell the lies on the behalf of China and their propaganda. 61 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: How damning of this is it of an indictment of 62 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: the media just not doing their jobs. Well, look that 63 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: was February of twenty twenty. That was right at the 64 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: outs outbreak of the pandemic. And it is striking how 65 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: many of the Democrat talking points, and how many of 66 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: the media talking points, and how many of the big 67 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: tech talking points are literally word for word being dictated 68 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: by the Chinese government. You know, that whole diatribe about 69 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: xenophobia and racism because you know, the government of China 70 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: is very concerned about xenophobia and racism when they're running 71 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: concentration camps with a million hiaguers and torturing and murdering them. 72 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: It is shameless, but they know that Democrats in the 73 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: media will happily parrot it. And let's go back to 74 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: two months later. So in April of twenty twenty, Glenn Kessler, 75 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: who is the Washington Post fact checker, which means he 76 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: is charged. He is their lie in chief. His record 77 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: is so bad, he is so partisan that it becomes laughable. Well, 78 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: on April thirtieth, twenty twenty, Glenn Kessler tweeted out, quote, 79 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: watched this amazing video by two people. Was the new 80 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: coronavirus accidentally released from a Wuhan lab. It's doubtful, and 81 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: he has this whole elaborate video that the Washington Post 82 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: put together. Now at that same time, I responded the 83 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: next day, and I had a ten thread, a ten 84 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: tweet tweet thread. Just taking this apart. I'm just going 85 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: to run back through it because it's worth noting. This 86 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: is at the outset. This is on May one, twenty twenty. 87 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: Amazing is definitely the right word for this video. The 88 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: Washington Post quote abandoning all pretenses of journalism to produce 89 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: CCP propaganda would be another way to put it. If 90 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: this reporter sub did this video in a freshman logic class, 91 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: it wouldn't receive a passing grade. Let's review the facts. 92 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: Fact number one Washington Post admits two separate labs in Wuhan. 93 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: We're studying coronaviruses derived from bats. One lab was just 94 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: three hundred yards from the Wuhan wet market. Fact number 95 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: two Washington Post admits bats with similar coronaviruses quote live 96 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: in caves one thousand miles away. Fact number three, Washington 97 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: Post admits both labs had serious safety concerns, resulting in 98 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: multiple US State Department wires before this crisis warning that 99 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: shoddy safety protocols could lead to a global coronavirus pandemic. 100 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: Fact number four, Washington Post admits China destroyed the lab 101 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: samples after the pandemic started, raising the natural inference that 102 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: they were afraid what the samples, if examined, would show. 103 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: All of these facts strongly suggests the virus escaped from 104 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: one of these CCP labs. At this point, the evidence 105 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: is circumstantial because the CCP is hiding and blocking any 106 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: direct evidence. But what is the Washington Post conclusion quote? 107 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: The balance of the scientific evidence strongly suggests the conclusion 108 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: that the new coronavirus emerged from nature, be it in 109 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: the Wuhan market or somewhere else. This is a non sequitor. 110 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: None of the aforementioned evidence leads to that conclusion. What 111 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: is the Washington Post basis? Well, Washington Post counterfact number one, 112 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: the CCP and the lab director who initially wrote quote 113 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: could the pandemic virus have come from our lab? End? Quote? 114 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: Now deny it? Quote. This is the Washington Post, she 115 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: her team and the Chinese government have adamantly denied that 116 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: it could have come from this lab. Washington Post takes 117 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: that denial from the Chinese communists as true. Washington Post 118 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: counterfact number two they quote doctor Peter Dazik, the head 119 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: of the Eco House Eco Health Alliance, as saying, quote, 120 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: China has been incredibly open. I believe it's because it's 121 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: a scientific collaboration. And in China they're really proud of 122 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: their science. They do good work, especially in virology. That's it. 123 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: Those two counterfacts form one hundred percent of the basis 124 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: for Washington Post quote fact check. In number two. The 125 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: claim that quote China has been incredibly open end quote 126 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: is laughably absurd. They destroyed the lab samples, they punished, 127 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: and they silenced the pandemic whistleblowers. And who is this 128 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: objective source? Doctor Dazek, Well, his organization, Eco Health Alliance 129 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: was receiving now canceled US taxpayer dollars to support bat 130 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: coronavirus research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Why does 131 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:33,239 Speaker 1: the Washington Post not disclose his enormous bias, litigation, exposure 132 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: and conflict of interest? And then Finally, and is it 133 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: relevant that the Washington Post is owned by Jeff Bezos, 134 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: the richest man in the world, who stands to make 135 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: billions in China if he pleases the communist overlords. Whatever 136 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: Washington Post is doing, this is not journalism. It is 137 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: apologizing for the CCP, trying to cover up their culpability. 138 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: You go back and you think about how long ago 139 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: this was, and it was a time when there were 140 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: people that were literally canceled from social media, silenced by doctors, 141 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: silenced by the CDC if you said anything that was 142 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: out of sorts with what the narrative was. 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I go back 179 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: to the people that tried to and I don't even 180 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: think they looked at themselves at the time as whistleblowers. 181 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: I think they just thought they were doing their jobs 182 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: getting the facts out, and they were treated like they 183 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: were basically anarchists. They were crazies. They were to be silenced, 184 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: shut down, their lives to be ruined, well, their careers 185 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: to be risked. The press felt no accountability, that they 186 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: were confident they could lie with impunity. You know the 187 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: ten tweet thread that I just reviewed a moment ago. 188 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: Do you know how Glenn Kesler responded to that ten 189 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: tweet thread that actually went through the facts that were 190 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: obvious then three years ago. Yeah, you would be public 191 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: enemy number one at that point because you were asking questions. Well, 192 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: he responded with the following quote, I fear ted Cruz 193 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: missed the scientific animation. Ah the animation in the video 194 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: that shows how it is virtually impossible for this virus 195 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: jump from the lab. I think he's missing the word too, 196 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: or the many interviews with actual scientists. We deal in 197 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: facts and viewers can judge for themselves. So he is 198 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: pompous and self satisfied he has opined these are the facts. Well, Glenn, 199 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: I rate your video and your tweet with four hundred 200 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: and thirty nine pinocchios and a pants on fire, and 201 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: you're full of crap. At the same time, don't worry, 202 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna now fact check you on everything for the 203 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: next six months of punishment. They did that anyway, and 204 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: the problem is they're laughably bad at it because they 205 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: just what they call facts are nothing more than left 206 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: wing editorial views. They view it as an absolute fact. 207 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: So this tweet and what Washington Post claimed were the 208 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: objective facts. Now the Biden Department of Energy has concluded 209 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: is false, that what they said is virtually impossible is 210 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: in fact what the Biden Department of Energy and the 211 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: Biden FBI both believe is the likely explanation for what happened. Now, 212 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: I will confess I'm not exactly holding my breath waiting 213 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: for the Washington post to issue a retraction. I'm not 214 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: expecting them to fact check themselves because they believe the 215 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: rules don't apply to them, and I do think there 216 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: are serious questions to ask about why is it that 217 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: the media engaged in a concerted effort to silence the 218 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: vious inference. Look, we were making this point on the 219 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: podcast in the first couple of months of the pandemic, 220 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: because the facts were clear even back then, and yet 221 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: the corporate media had, I believe, a financial interest, a 222 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: political interest, a partisan interest in silencing the facts and 223 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: covering up for the Chinese communist government, and in labeling 224 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: anyone who pointed out those facts a tinfoil had conspiracy theorists, 225 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: and also using the power of big tech to suppress them. Listen, 226 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: we know that doctor Fauci asked Mark Zuckerberg in writing 227 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: an email to suppress people on Facebook posting that the 228 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: COVID virus came from a Chinese lab. So big tech, 229 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: and presumably, by the way, all the rest of big 230 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: tech was equally complicit in silencing those views. It's an 231 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: example of quite simple, lee relentless mediaize. Let's talk about 232 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: the here and now and what the fallout could be 233 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: or maybe should be from this compared to what's probably 234 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: going to happen the lab leek. And again I'm going 235 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: to read this because it's important. Most likely origin of 236 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen pandemic. Energy Department now says came from Wuhan. 237 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: US's agency has revised their assessments quote based and this 238 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,359 Speaker 1: is coming from the Wall Street Journal on new intelligence. 239 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: Do we know, Senator what that new intelligence is? Because 240 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: again I go back to Fauci here. Fauci dismissed the 241 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: Wuhan lab leak theory as a shiny object. Those were 242 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: his exact words, and in April twenty twenty email he 243 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: called it a shiny object. So at that point you 244 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: got to ask jof why was he helping basically trying 245 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: to cover this up so much? So I don't know 246 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: what that new intelligence was. And one of the reasons 247 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: why I'm speaking so freely about it now on this 248 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: podcast is I haven't seen the classified briefing at issue. 249 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: This broke. Somebody leaked the classified briefing. I haven't gotten it. 250 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: I will be back in Washington this week in the Senate. 251 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: I'm certainly going to press to see I want to 252 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: see this Department of Energy report that has now been leaked. 253 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: But since I haven't seen it, I'm not revealing classified information. 254 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: I don't know what's in it. What I do know 255 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: is what the press did was so comprehensive. So let 256 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: me let me run through several examples and actually comfortably 257 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: smug Who is a friend and who is great on 258 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 1: Twitter put together a thread of just some of the 259 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: most egregious media lies trying to cover up the origins 260 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: of COVID. So, for example, PolitiFact gave a Tucker Carlson 261 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: guest a pants on fire for the quote debunked conspiracy 262 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: theory that COVID came from a lab. Now I would 263 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: to Politifacts credit. They've since withdrawn that blatantly false fact check, 264 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: but they started with pants on fire and debunked because 265 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: their view is well, the Chinese communists tell us, so 266 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: it must be true. Here's another example, Media Matters said, 267 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: influential podcast hosts Joe Rogan spread an unfounded claim that 268 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen quote comes out of a lab in Wuhan, 269 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: And of course they haven't corrected that. The New York 270 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: Times reporter, right, this is a New York Times reporter, 271 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: a poor vub Mandevilli, who tweeted in May of twenty 272 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: twenty one, someday we will stop talking about the lab 273 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: leak theory and maybe even admit its racist roots. But 274 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: alas that day is not yet here. So that's a 275 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: New York Times reporter who what does she doing repeating 276 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: the talking points from the Chinese Communist Party. How about 277 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: another time, after Trump and Pompeo had floated the lab 278 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: leak theory, CNN's Don Lemon, who we talked about a 279 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: lot in our last PAP podcast, asked on air, quote, 280 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: how far off are the president's claims compared to what 281 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: your sources are telling you? CNN Senior reporter Alexander Markhart. Well, Don, 282 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: they're pretty much the exact opposite. And how about this 283 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: MSNBC's Nicole Wallace quote, Donald Trump is turning his intelligence 284 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: community to now investigate a conspiracy theory about COVID coming 285 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: from a lab in Wuhan. Here's another example from the 286 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: editor in chief of Scientific America. This is March twenty six, 287 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Quote on CNN. Former CDC director Robert 288 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: Redfield shared the conspiracy theory that the virus came from 289 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: the Wuhan Lab. Epidemymologists and virologists are doing heroic and 290 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: urgent work on social media debunking everything he said. Thanks 291 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: so much to them, and a pause to reflect on 292 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: that the former director of the CDC had the guts 293 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: to speak out and say say the truth, and what 294 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: happened the left universally hammered down and decided we're going 295 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: to try to discredit the former director of the CDC, 296 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: just like they went after doctors at Stanford and Harvard 297 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: Yale who dared take them up. This was a concerted 298 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: effort at lying and every person who engaged in these 299 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: lies should be held accountable. And it goes back to 300 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: even seeing it now, trying to cover themselves. 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The 328 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: US Department of Energy is assessing that COVID nineteen likely 329 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: resulted from a lab leak, but they still want you 330 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: to know they think the chances of this being right 331 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: are still low, but they're reporting it as fact. Listen 332 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: carefully updated classified intel report saying that the US Department 333 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: of Energy has a sess that the source of the 334 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen pandemic likely came from a China lab leak, 335 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: but there is one major caveat source is at the 336 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: Department of Energy, and tell CNN that the report has 337 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: quote low confidence center low confidence. I mean the US 338 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: Department Energy assess is that this happened. And then they 339 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: come back and they're like, well, it's low confidence of 340 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: the COVID nineteen likely resulted from a China lab league. 341 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: How much do you have to fall over yourself to 342 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: look like you're stupid when you're announcing news from the 343 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: US Department of Energy this way. Well, they're trying desperately 344 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: to cover their own terrible track record because CNN and 345 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: the Washington Post and the New York Times refuse to 346 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: conduct actual journalism. They repeat left wing talking points, even 347 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: if they come directly from the Chinese Communist government. Now 348 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: it is true that at least according to the leaks 349 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: that as I said, I have not seen this intelligence briefing, 350 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: but according to the leaks, the Energy Department made its 351 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: judgment with quote low confidence. And that's typical and an 352 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: intelligence briefing that they give you the level of confidence, 353 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: whether it's low or moderate or high, and so concluded 354 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: this was the likely source, but it said with low confidence. 355 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: You know what CNN didn't say, at least in the 356 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: segment you played there. They may have acknowledged this elsewhere 357 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: on CNN, which is the FBI came to the same conclusion. 358 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: And the FBI has that conclusion with quote quote moderate confidence. 359 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: So you've got two agencies and the Biden administration that 360 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: hold this view. One the Department of Energy that has 361 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: particular experience and expertise with labs, and the other the FBI, 362 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: which you would think would know something about evidence. And nevertheless, 363 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: just a couple of years ago, saying what the Biden 364 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: FBI and Biden Energy Department are now reluctantly acknowledging would 365 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: get you silence, blocked, canceled, and ridiculed. Too high heaven, 366 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: because you know, this really ought to be every newsroom 367 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: that lied about this head should roll. If there actually 368 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: were responsible editors, if there were responsible owners of papers, 369 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: the people who lied about this should lose their jobs. 370 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: As it is, they'll skate by with complete impunity. What 371 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: about Faucci And you think some of this maybe is 372 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: actually coming out now because Fauci's there no longer there 373 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: to control the information or the narrative. And I say 374 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: that as a loaded question, but I want to play 375 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: audio to back up that theory. Fauci. If you go 376 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: back to June of twenty twenty one, he was on TV. 377 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: He had the NHS background behind him from Bethesa, Maryland. 378 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: He was talking on CNN, and this is what he 379 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: had to say about the lab that China lab Wick theory. 380 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: He said, quote, it was far out to think that 381 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: China would quote endanger its own people and then went 382 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: on to mock people that think that's listen, I would 383 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: have time to go. So that's a mood point. You've 384 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: had the distinct honor and pleasure of having some of 385 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: your emails, many of your emails released to the public 386 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: over the last few days, and there have been questions 387 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: or controversy, some gend up, but some questions raised about 388 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 1: some of them, and I want to get you on 389 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: the record addressing some of them. There was an email 390 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: sent to you from an executive an Eco Health Alliance, 391 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: and this is one of the companies that funded some 392 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: of the research at the Wuhan Lab, and this email 393 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: thanked you for basically saying you believed that the origins 394 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: of the coronavirus were natural. This email said quote, I 395 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: wanted to say a personal thank you on behalf of 396 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: our staff and collaborators for publicly standing up and stating 397 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: that the scientific evidence supports a natural origin for COVID 398 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: nineteen from back to human spillover, not a lab release 399 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. That email was April eighteenth. 400 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: There are some of your critics who say this shows 401 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: you have two coesy of a relationship with the people 402 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: behind the Wuhan Lab research. What do you say to that, 403 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: that's nonsense. I don't even see how they get that 404 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: from that email. That email was sent to me from them. 405 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: I have always said, and we'll say today to you, John, 406 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: that I still believe the most likely origin is from 407 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: an animal species to a human, but I keep an 408 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: absolutely open mind that if there may be other origins 409 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: of that. There may be another reason. It could have 410 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: been a lab leak. I believe if you look historically 411 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: what happens in the animal human interface, that in fact, 412 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: the more likelihood is that you're dealing with a jump 413 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: of species. But I keep an open mind all the time, 414 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: and that's the reason why I have been public that 415 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: we should continue to look for the origin that email. 416 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: In no way you can misconstrue it however you want. 417 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: That email was from a person to me saying thank 418 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: you for whatever it is he thought I said, and 419 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: I said that I think the most likely origin is 420 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: a jumping of species. I still do think it is, 421 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: at the same time as I'm keeping an open mind 422 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: that it might be a lab league there was an email. 423 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like he's keeping an open mind, does it. Well. 424 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: The FBI and the Biden Department of Energy have both 425 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: concluded now that what Fauci just said there is wrong. 426 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: Not only that his claim of an open mind. You 427 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: know what, he didn't address the fact that he asked 428 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: Zuckerberg to silence anyone that dared say anything contrary to 429 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: the official line coming from the Chinese Communist government, and 430 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: he tried to orchestrate people in the scientific and medical 431 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: world to similarly suppress discussion of the evidence that this 432 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: came from a Chinese lab. It's worth underscoring this podcast 433 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: had multiple entire pods devoted to laying out that evidence 434 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: early in the opening months of this pandemic, when CNA 435 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: and MSNBC New York Times none of them could be 436 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: bothered to report on news verdict was there. Let's talk 437 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: about one other aspect of this, and that is the 438 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: side of it where many people believe that Fauci lied 439 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: to Congress. Do you believe that Fauci lied to Congress 440 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: based on now what we know? And is there any 441 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: accountability if you do lie to Congress if you're a liberal. Well, 442 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: on the latter, the answer is no. The chances that 443 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: the Biden Justice Department will prosecute Fauci for lying to Congress, unfortunately, 444 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: I think, are zero point zero percent. I have asked 445 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: Attorney General Merritt Garland whether he intended to prosecute Fauci, 446 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: and he dodges those questions. He refuses to answer those questions. 447 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: I've asked the FBI. They dodge those questions. Look, Fauci 448 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: flat out told Congress under oath that the federal government 449 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: was not funding gain a function research at the Wuhan 450 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: Institute for Virology. The National Institution NIH, in writing confirmed 451 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: that they were funding gain a function research. What has 452 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: gain a function research? It is research that alters the 453 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: characteristic of a virus, makes it, for example, more transmissible, 454 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: makes it more lethal, makes it more likely to impact humans. 455 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: All those are the sorts of things that gain a 456 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: function research can do. It is incredibly controversial, and it 457 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: is incredibly dangerous because you are creating pathogens that can 458 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: be deadly. And Fauci's answer to Congress is flat out 459 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: inconsistent with what the NIH has said publicly in writing. 460 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, lying to Congress as Fauci did 461 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: is a felony punishable by with jail time. But you 462 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: know what, you can't send him to jail if the 463 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: Department of Justice, which under our constitution it is only 464 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: the executive ranch that can prosecute if the Biden Department 465 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: of Justice puts politics above the law and refuses to 466 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: prosecute him. So I think we should and listen. The 467 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: relevance of the gain of function research is worth noting. 468 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: Is there are huge lessons to be learned going forward. 469 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: If the entire COVID pandemic is the result of man 470 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: made changes to a virus to make it more dangerous 471 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: to people, that is number one, a powerful warning to 472 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: stop screwing around and creating the next horrific pandemic that 473 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: could result in a much much higher death toll and 474 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: and potentially millions and millions dead. But number two, it 475 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: goes straight to the culpability of the Chinese Communist government. 476 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: And you know the tweet thread that I started started 477 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: this pod reading, I pointed out one of the most 478 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: damning inference at damning facts is that we know the 479 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: Chinese lab destroy their samples immediately after the pandemic happened. Now, 480 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: in the criminal justice system, if you destroy evidence, frequently 481 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: a court or a jury can draw an inference that 482 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: you are destroying evidence because it implicates you in guilt. 483 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: It demonstrates destroying evidence once you know that evidence could 484 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: be relevant, demonstrates a guilty conscience that you're trying to 485 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: hide something. And so at this point, I don't believe 486 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: there is compelling evidence that China was developing this as 487 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: a bioweapon, in other words, as something delivering gely An 488 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: accident is the question I was going to ask you next. 489 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: You know, what I think is compelling is that it 490 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: escaped from a Chinese lab. That I believe is the 491 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly out sources that escaped from a Chinese lab, That 492 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: it was created in a Chinese lab, that they took 493 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: it existing coronavirus and enhanced it in the Chinese lab. 494 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: I believe that is more likely than not. I don't 495 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: think the evidence is nearly as compelling as it is 496 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: that it escaped from a Chinese lab. So I think 497 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: there's some chance this was a naturally occurring virus that 498 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: escape from the Chinese lab. I think it is more 499 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: likely this is a man made virus that escaped from 500 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: the Chinese lab. And I have not seen compelling evidence that, 501 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: even if it was created in a Chinese lab, that 502 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: it was created to be a weapon, that it was 503 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: created to be deliberately released. I think the more likely 504 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: inference is they were doing research on it. We know 505 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: that their safety protocols were shoddy. The US State Department 506 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: said so in wires before the pandemic happened, that they 507 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: were worried about a coronavirus worldwide pandemic from these labs, 508 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: and I think what is likely as they were doing research, 509 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: they screwed up, They were sloppy. It was an accidental leak, 510 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: and then China has desperately been trying to cover it 511 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: up since that happened, and the media and big tech 512 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: and Democrats have been more than happy to go along 513 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: with that. I want to talk to you about trust 514 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: or lack of trust and the American people that the 515 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: American people may have right now with our government in 516 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: the future, with other things that happened in Pandemics that 517 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: could happen. Before I get to that, I want to 518 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: tell you about a friends at Patriot Mobile. If you've 519 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: got a cell phone and your cell phone is with 520 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: big tech, you need to know that they're probably fighting 521 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: against what you believe in. We're talking about fighting for 522 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: freedom of speech. We're talking about the Second Amendment. 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Let's talk 551 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: about trust, Senator, there's a lot of Americans that do 552 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: not trust the government when it comes to health issues. 553 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: Now that worries me because there's gonna be something that 554 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: happens in the future where we're gonna need to see 555 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: leaders that give us intel, give us information that we trust. 556 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: And it's not just now with this about face from 557 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: our government saying okay, the lab leak, yeah, most likely 558 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: actually came from Wuhan and it was actually out of 559 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: a lab. The Energy Department is now saying that. But 560 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: there's another trust issue here, and I'm going to play fauci. 561 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: He went on Late Night Stephen Colbert and he said 562 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: this back last year and I think it was September October, 563 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: take a listen. Is the science in on whether the 564 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: vaccine is safe? Oh, without a doubt. It's been given 565 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: to billions of people and billions of doses, So there's 566 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: no doubt. Safety is off the table. It is no 567 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: doubt it's safe. But the important point is that if 568 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: you reason with people and show the statistics of the 569 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: number of hospitalizations and deaths among unvaccinated people compared to 570 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: people who have vaccinated and up to date on the 571 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 1: BUSTA the curves go hospitalization and death for people unvaccinated, 572 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: hospitalation and deaths for people who are vaccinated. To have 573 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: people just look at the data, that's not going to 574 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: convince everybody. For people who at least put a little 575 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: bit stock in data, they should understand that there's a 576 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: lot of people asking a lot of questions now about 577 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: the side effects of the vaccine. I don't think it's 578 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 1: crazy to ask that, But when he says the way 579 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: that he just said, it absolutely it's safe. There's no problems, 580 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: there's no issues, there's no side effects. This is safe. 581 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: And now we see people that are coming up with 582 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: different things that happen after they believe they got the vaccine. 583 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: There's research into it. How do you expect anybody to 584 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: trust our government leaders in the future when it comes 585 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: to public health and public safety issues if this is 586 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: the type of rhetoric we get from guys like Fauci 587 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: with no apology. Ever, I think there is no bureaucrat 588 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: in the history of the country who was more damage 589 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: than doctor Fauci. I think there is no scientist or 590 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: doctor in the history of the country who has done 591 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: more damage to the credibility of the scientific and medical 592 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: community than doctor Fauci. His willingness to lie, his willingness 593 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: to state things as irrefutable facts when the evidence does 594 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: not back that up, and his willingness to change on 595 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: a dime as the politics supported it is resulted in 596 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: millions and maybe even hundreds of millions of Americans who 597 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: now have deep, deep skepticism for the next thing some 598 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: government doctor tells them now that could have devastating effects. Look, 599 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: God forbid, we have a pandemic of something like you know, 600 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: I don't know, ebola, or something that has an incredibly 601 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: high fatality rate and could if it began spreading in 602 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: serious numbers, could result in a massive numbers of death. 603 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 1: Given the enormous skepticism people have because they've seen Fauci 604 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: lying and lying and lying and being certain of his 605 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: lies at every step. I worry about how we're going 606 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: to deal with the next major threat. And I don't 607 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: understand why Fauci couldn't have said, Look, in my judgment, 608 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: the benefits of taking the vaccine exceed the cost. That 609 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,959 Speaker 1: was his judgment. That's fine to say if he wants 610 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: to say that, If he wanted to say, if you're 611 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: in a particularly vulnerable population, if you're very elderly, if 612 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: you're immunocompromised, he could say, in his judgment, the benefits 613 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: of taking the vaccine substantially exceed the costs and risks. 614 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: That's actually how a reasonable scientist or doctor advises you. 615 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: That's how someone who's not being a propagandist advised. Now, 616 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: he would have to, at the same time say, well, 617 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: the data for children, for toddlers to take the vaccine, 618 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,439 Speaker 1: the risks we know from the COVID virus are very 619 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: low for young children, and the risks are unknown. That 620 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: would actually be an honest assessment. But he wouldn't say 621 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: that because he is decided not to be in the 622 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: business of giving honest and fair assessments. And it's the 623 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 1: danger of the boy who cried wolf. He's the boy 624 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: who cried COVID, and the consequence the next person at 625 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: the CDC, the next government scientist. The next crisis we have, 626 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: we may see a whole lot of people die because 627 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: our government has destroyed much of the credibility of their 628 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: own medical and scientific teams. And I think Fauci is 629 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: directly responsible for that. Senator, I know there's a lot 630 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: of Americans that are certainly hoping that the Republicans, at 631 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 1: least leading in the House side, will be able to 632 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 1: look into this and investigate, get some real answers, and 633 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: have some accountability for those that are working for our 634 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: government that we pay with our tax dollars. They want 635 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: there to be some accountability here, so they don't just 636 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: we'll get to walk around and make things up as 637 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: they go based on politics. Look, I think it's incredibly 638 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: important that there be accountability. I think it's important that 639 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: congresshold hearings. I'm on the Senate Judiciary Committee, I'm on 640 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Both committees ought to be 641 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: holding hearings on this, examining the origins of COVID, examining 642 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: the liability of the communist Chinese government for potentially creating 643 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 1: this virus, for at a minimum, negligently allowing it to escape, 644 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: and for covering up the evidence and resulting in the 645 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: loss of millions of lives and trillions of dollars. There 646 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: should be real liability. That means Congress needs to hold 647 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 1: them do a out. I have no confidence Democrats in 648 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: the Senate will be willing to do so, but I'm 649 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: hopeful that at least the Republican majority in the House. 650 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: Will you know, I'll point out one other data point 651 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: which all of the media outlets that that insist, that 652 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: insisted for years, this couldn't have come from from a 653 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: lab leak. Just one data point, which is three researchers 654 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:33,919 Speaker 1: from the Wuhan Institute of Virology became sick in November 655 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:39,240 Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen, so before the pandemic was was known, 656 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: before the outbreak had widely occurred, and they became sick 657 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: enough that they sought hospital care, and at least according 658 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: to public reports, the sick researchers were directly involved in 659 00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: coronavirus research. That's pretty compelling when you've got three researchers 660 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 1: checking themselves into the hospital in November of twenty nineteen, 661 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: right before this pandemic erupts across the globe. And yet 662 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: even that fact didn't cause Fouci to blink, didn't cause 663 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: the media to blink, didn't cause big Tech to blink. 664 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 1: And elevating politics above people's lives and above truth is 665 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: one of the reasons that so many have died, but 666 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: it's also one of the reasons why so many now 667 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: deeply distrust so called government experts. Yeah, how many people 668 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: may forget we were heading into a presidential election season 669 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: when all of this went down, and it was a 670 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: candidate and a Republican party that was thriving with their policies, 671 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: and it was many saw it as an opportunity to 672 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: really knock on Trump and other Republicans in that election 673 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: coming up. I will say one of the thing don't 674 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: forget this is why we do the show, so that 675 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: we give you these clips and info that you're not 676 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: going to get anywhere else. This is one of those 677 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: shows I'll ask you make sure you share it with 678 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: your family and your friends. Many of the clips that 679 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: we played, the piece of audio here, you're not going 680 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: to hear it anywhere else, so share it with your 681 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: family and friends. Right. It's a five star review as well, 682 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 1: and we'll see you back here in a couple of days.