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Speaker 1: New Pacific three Eastern Sunday three Pacific, sixth Eastern. Well,
Speaker 1: it's Friday here in this program, and you know what
Speaker 1: that means. We've got a busy weekend coming up with
Speaker 1: the a w New Japan Forbidden It Door pay per
Speaker 1: view which is coming up on Sunday. And you, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: dear listener will be stunned to hear there's another injury
Speaker 1: that is that has afflicted this show. Toll me hero
Speaker 1: is she is off the show. He has been replaced
Speaker 1: in the All Atlantic four Way by Clark Conners. Who
Speaker 1: is she he beat? So we'll go over the full
Speaker 1: card for the show, and uh, I won't go over
Speaker 1: everything I went over yesterday in The Brian Viney Show.
Speaker 1: If you want to listen to the show Wrestling Observer
Speaker 1: dot com, Video dot f W online dot com, you can.
Speaker 1: But the gist of it is, I went through this
Speaker 1: card and based on what I know, whether it be
Speaker 1: injuries or politics, or changes as a result of injuries
Speaker 1: which changed other matches, if that makes sense. I think
Speaker 1: every single solitary match on this show, with the exception
Speaker 1: of thunder Rosa versus Tony Storm, was originally going to
Speaker 1: be something else. Nine out of ten matches ended up
Speaker 1: being changed from what they originally wanted to do. So anyway,
Speaker 1: we'll go over that. We have got the a W
Speaker 1: ratings which were up this week, and we've also got
Speaker 1: an update on the SmackDown and Rampage numbers last week, which,
Speaker 1: if you recall, Rampage was like so low and then
Speaker 1: people were thinking maybe there was an issue at Nielsen,
Speaker 1: and in fact, the good news is there was an
Speaker 1: issue with Nielsen. It affected both SmackDown and Rampage. The
Speaker 1: bad news is Rampage still today horrible number. So we'll
Speaker 1: tell you about that here today. We've also got an
Speaker 1: update on Stephanie McMahon SmackDown tonight New n x T
Speaker 1: Tag Team Champions, A virgin is a title holder and
Speaker 1: so much more. Back in a moment, Observer Live taking
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Speaker 1: she E has been pulled from Forbidden Door after suffering
Speaker 1: a knee injury, and Bro, if you know anything about Ishi,
Speaker 1: it's gotta be a bad knee injury to pull out
Speaker 1: of a show. He'd been scheduled take part in the
Speaker 1: a w All Atlantic title match featuring Pocmero and Malachi.
Speaker 1: He will be replaced by Clark Conners, who was a
Speaker 1: guy that he defeated in a tournament final on Tuesday
Speaker 1: at the New Japan Road e Ent in Tokyo. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a huge fan of Clark Connors. No, Clark,
Speaker 1: he worked around here and uh he actually worked at
Speaker 1: the pool that Vinnie's wife works at before he got
Speaker 1: into wrestling. So I'm very very happy to see Clark Connors. Uh.
Speaker 1: He did the uh elderly people water yoga and boy
Speaker 1: do they like Clark Connors. But anyway, uh, he I'm
Speaker 1: very happy to see him working this forbidden door show.
Speaker 1: But man, this was an opportunity to go filthy Tom
Speaker 1: in that four way and it didn't happen. But well,
Speaker 1: he'll be in the g one right, will be, yes, sir?
Speaker 1: So another injury and uh, as I noted earlier here today, yesterday,
Speaker 1: it was like seven of the matches had been changed
Speaker 1: as a result of injury or whatever. But I did
Speaker 1: a tally yesterday and uh, whether it be injury, politics,
Speaker 1: or someone being moved because of an injury and needed
Speaker 1: to be replaced in a match. By my account, nine
Speaker 1: of the ten matches, for sure we're changed from what
Speaker 1: was originally planned. The only one that I think had
Speaker 1: been planned from the beginning and is taking place as
Speaker 1: planned provided none of these two get hurt is thunder
Speaker 1: Rosa and Tony Storm for the a W World Women's Idole.
Speaker 1: Every single other match was changed for one reason or
Speaker 1: another from what they had originally planned, which is insane
Speaker 1: when you actually think about it. We've got moxy Tona Hashi.
Speaker 1: As we're all well aware, j White, Okada Hangman and
Speaker 1: Adam Cole. We've got Malachi, Pack Mero and Clark Conners
Speaker 1: for the All Atlantic title, Thunder Rosa, Tony Storm, Jeff
Speaker 1: Cobb and Great o'con versus f tr versus Rapongi Vice winner,
Speaker 1: take all R O H and I W G P
Speaker 1: Tag team titles, will Osbury, Orange, Cassidy, Jericho, Suzuki, Sammy Versti,
Speaker 1: Kingston Wheeler. You didn't showed Amino, Zach Saberg Jr. Versus
Speaker 1: the Mystery Man whoever that might be, Young Bucks, Fantasma
Speaker 1: and Hikolao versus Sting, Darby Shingo and Harromu Takahashi. And
Speaker 1: then to buy in his Max Castor and the Gun
Speaker 1: Club versus the l A Do Joe. So that is
Speaker 1: the lineup for the show. I still think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be excellent show Bell to Bell, but I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people are disappointed. Some people are claiming they're
Speaker 1: not going to buy it. It's kind of funny because
Speaker 1: whenever people go I don't like it, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: buy it. I ever believe that, because I've heard that
Speaker 1: a thousand times, and then we end up getting numbers
Speaker 1: and it's like the number of people that actually said
Speaker 1: that they didn't buy it is low. It's like they
Speaker 1: either weren't going to buy it in the first place,
Speaker 1: or you know, the people that actually legitimately change their minds,
Speaker 1: it's usually very very few people. But it was funny
Speaker 1: and people go like, well, I expect it to be great,
Speaker 1: but I didn't like the build. What so you're gonna
Speaker 1: skip out on the show that you know is going
Speaker 1: to be great because you don't know how They don't
Speaker 1: like how they got to the show that's going to
Speaker 1: be great. That was one that was a weird one,
Speaker 1: but whatever. I think most of those people that would
Speaker 1: say that are going to buy the show anyway. You know.
Speaker 1: I think the only time the build hurts is any
Speaker 1: casual fan that is not a die hard New Japan
Speaker 1: and slash a W Pro Wrestling and if they only
Speaker 1: follow a W yeah, the building will matter to them.
Speaker 1: But most of the people that are frustrated or probably
Speaker 1: expressing that opinion, and I don't know, your timeline tends
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more toxic than mine. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't believe those people at all. They're
Speaker 1: absolutely gonna watch the show. What if she's not going
Speaker 1: to be there, so all of a sudden, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna watch the show. No? Is Okada in the dream
Speaker 1: match that you want him to be in? Is Tanahashi?
Speaker 1: Is whoever? Maybe not? Is that really going to stop
Speaker 1: you from watching the show? No, Because you know, whoever
Speaker 1: Zach Saber Jr. Faces could be. Say it's cesar Oh,
Speaker 1: say it's Gargano, Say it's whoever it is, It's probably
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty great. You know, you look up and
Speaker 1: down and you go, Is Cassidy the guy I would
Speaker 1: have wanted to face will Osprey? Probably not, But you
Speaker 1: know what, the match itself is probably gonna be pretty great.
Speaker 1: Same goes for for Tanahashi and Moxley. I would have
Speaker 1: loved for it to be punk, but this is the
Speaker 1: handword dealt. And I think by the time Sunday Night
Speaker 1: is over with, they're going to be people who some
Speaker 1: people don't know, like a Clark Connors because for the
Speaker 1: most part, people don't know who the hell Clark Honnors is.
Speaker 1: People listening to this show may but there's a lot
Speaker 1: of wrestling fans that don't, and I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: see him. They're gonna see l Fantasmo, They're gonna see
Speaker 1: some of these other guys, and they're going to be
Speaker 1: really surprised, and they're going to want to see those
Speaker 1: guys more in a w and mixing it up and again,
Speaker 1: this is step one on what hopefully is going to
Speaker 1: be a long path of working together between these two groups.
Speaker 1: By the way, for this guy that says, I know Tonash,
Speaker 1: she stands less than zero percent chance of winning, will
Speaker 1: I watch it? Yes, I would not say that at all.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's got zero percent chance of winning
Speaker 1: or less at all. It's not necessarily predicting him, but
Speaker 1: that is not a by the way, after everyone's freaked out,
Speaker 1: hold on. That's one of the interesting things too, and
Speaker 1: we can get into it later on. If we go
Speaker 1: up and down this card where the one thing that's
Speaker 1: for sure is you don't know in some of these
Speaker 1: cases who is actually going to come out the winner.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of question. You know, you
Speaker 1: may think, Okay, this person is going to this side
Speaker 1: is gonna win, but you don't know who's gonna take
Speaker 1: the fall. And I think there's a lot of stories
Speaker 1: that could be developed for both companies coming out of
Speaker 1: this show. So last week, everybody's freaking out about these
Speaker 1: numbers and Dynamite Wednesday eight seventy eight thousand viewers, up
Speaker 1: fifteen point four percent from last week, number one on
Speaker 1: cable with an o point three one, which was up
Speaker 1: ten point seven percent from last week. This was up
Speaker 1: against the Stanley Cup Finals, which did four point six
Speaker 1: million viewers and a one point three one at eighteen
Speaker 1: to forty nine up in every demo category except males
Speaker 1: twelve to thirty four, which declined. Biggest increases were young
Speaker 1: women females twelve to thirty four up a hundred percent,
Speaker 1: eighteen and forty nine forty three point eight percent. So, UH,
Speaker 1: numbers good, so we can move on from that one.
Speaker 1: But due to a reporting error with Nielsen, because these
Speaker 1: numbers on Friday, I mean it was a bizarre. SmackDown
Speaker 1: was sky high, Rampage was like depths of the Earth,
Speaker 1: and it turns out that there was a reporting error
Speaker 1: at Nielsen which affected both shows. So SmackDown, UH as
Speaker 1: opposed to doing two point to nine million viewers, they
Speaker 1: did two point three eight nine million, which means that
Speaker 1: Roman Reigns Riddle Match that did two point eight million.
Speaker 1: It probably did actually almost three million viewers for Roman
Speaker 1: Reigns versus Riddle, the same riddle that they squashed on
Speaker 1: Monday with Omas and beat him up twice in one show.
Speaker 1: The Rampage Show actually ended up doing three hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty nine thousand viewers, which was up twelve percent from
Speaker 1: what we reported at last week. That's the good news.
Speaker 1: The bad news is in its normal time slot, still
Speaker 1: by far the lowest viewership ever in the history of Rampage.
Speaker 1: That did allow it to beat two of the shows
Speaker 1: that were preempted, but this in no way turned the
Speaker 1: Rampage number into a good number, still at a point
Speaker 1: one two at eighteen and forty nine, which I guess
Speaker 1: is good because before it was a point one. Oh,
Speaker 1: this is at least a point one too, But that
Speaker 1: is also the lowest demo number the show has ever
Speaker 1: done in its regular time slot. But it did beat
Speaker 1: some shows that were preempted. But there's minimal spin you
Speaker 1: can put on that that that makes it as it
Speaker 1: was a holy number. Yeah, the only spin you can
Speaker 1: put on it is, you know, this is better than
Speaker 1: some of the times they've been preempted and put somewhere else,
Speaker 1: but they only went up, you know, thirty eight thousand
Speaker 1: viewers in this when in SmackDown went up nine hundred thousands.
Speaker 1: So people, it's whatever obvious, no, but as far as yeah,
Speaker 1: but it goes up. You know, they went up to
Speaker 1: nearly two point four million people from two point to
Speaker 1: nine and again because of that percentage, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it just unfortunately doesn't go open up for rampage at all.
Speaker 1: In was it a one week aberration. The show has
Speaker 1: been on the decline anyway. They are hamstrung by the
Speaker 1: fact that there are days that they don't want to
Speaker 1: run on in issues that they have the Tony Khan,
Speaker 1: either as a gentleman's agreement with or there's some other
Speaker 1: deeper reason that he doesn't want to run on certain
Speaker 1: days up against certain shows. But they're hurting themselves that
Speaker 1: way because you've got to get that show off of
Speaker 1: Friday at ten. I don't know where you can put it,
Speaker 1: what you can do, but Friday attend stinks. I'm on
Speaker 1: an observer live condy day. Come come Friday to day
Speaker 1: that streaking ring. Maybe I I think it's me that
Speaker 1: there's something that track, But imagine you were listening to
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Speaker 1: Observer dot Com. Okay, everyone's talking about Tona Hashi. What
Speaker 1: percentage chance do I think the tonah she has of winning? Bro,
Speaker 1: I don't know, And you know what I would do.
Speaker 1: I would say why. I'll tell you why because what
Speaker 1: was the originally scheduled match. It was CM Punk versus
Speaker 1: Hiroshi Tanahashi for the a W title, Right, that was
Speaker 1: the original match. Yes, CM Punk got hurt and he
Speaker 1: was removed from that match. Okay, so Tony clearly wanted
Speaker 1: to see see M Punk versus Hiroshi Tanahashi for the
Speaker 1: a W title. Well, now he can't because ce HM
Speaker 1: Punk got hurt unless you either bring back Tanahashi later
Speaker 1: when c HM Punk ends up champion again or Tanashi
Speaker 1: wins the title see M Punk comes back and it
Speaker 1: all out. You do the match he wanted to do
Speaker 1: in the first place. It couldn't do see M Punk
Speaker 1: versus Hiroshi Tanahashi for the a W title and see
Speaker 1: him Punk wins, So it's not like this has happened
Speaker 1: before where something throws a monkey wrench in Tony's plans
Speaker 1: and he swerves to get back to where he was
Speaker 1: going originally. So if he really wanted to do that match,
Speaker 1: then Tanahashi wins the interim title, and when Punk comes back,
Speaker 1: you do Punk a Tanahashi the originally planned match, and
Speaker 1: then Punk gets to win. Now I explained that, well,
Speaker 1: why did I say? Well, the other half of that
Speaker 1: is that if CM Punk would have wrestled Hiroshi Tanahashi
Speaker 1: Forbidden Door, I don't think Tanahashi is winning. He was
Speaker 1: going to lose at Forbidden Door, so that's the other
Speaker 1: fifty percent. He wasn't scheduled to win, so he's probably
Speaker 1: maybe not gonna win this time. But for anybody thinking
Speaker 1: that tanah she has zero chance of winning the a
Speaker 1: W title. If you look at history and the way
Speaker 1: that Tony has handled issues where he could have put
Speaker 1: together a match he wanted to do, he does his
Speaker 1: little swerve to get back to the match he wanted
Speaker 1: to do in the first place. So don't think there's
Speaker 1: zero chance. I haven't actually gone and looked at the
Speaker 1: at the schedule for G one, but hold on, everyone
Speaker 1: is doing six matches and not eight, okay, And I
Speaker 1: was told that there's only one Wednesday where Hiroshi Tanahashi
Speaker 1: is working a G one match, which means, with the
Speaker 1: exception of one Wednesday, he is a vail. It would
Speaker 1: be a tough flight there and back. But he could
Speaker 1: appear every Wednesday except one during the G one, So
Speaker 1: it's not impossible that he could win this title. It's
Speaker 1: not impossible, but it's kindly unlikely because of the G one.
Speaker 1: And I think if you wanted, if you were a
Speaker 1: gambler that way and say I'm gonna put money on Tnahashi,
Speaker 1: I think then you also must look at the odds
Speaker 1: on the Okada match, because if you look at J White, Okada,
Speaker 1: Page and uh Adam Cole, you have three aid W guys,
Speaker 1: but two aid W guys, J White and Okada. And
Speaker 1: if you're going to switch the belt and actually have
Speaker 1: Tanahashi hold onto the a W title throughout the G one,
Speaker 1: you know, leading into I don't I don't know when
Speaker 1: all out is, but you know, if you're gonna have
Speaker 1: that happen, then go ahead and actually swap the belts.
Speaker 1: And have Hangman Page pull off a big upset so
Speaker 1: he could have a big match when he goes over
Speaker 1: to Japan. I think again, I I know what you're saying,
Speaker 1: and I see that. I just see. This is where
Speaker 1: politics start to dribble back in. And you know the
Speaker 1: importance of those titles, which while G One is going on,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't think would be important and doesn't Most fans
Speaker 1: would go, Okay, I can displace this and and put
Speaker 1: it in this part of my mind. But I don't
Speaker 1: know if the companies necessarily want that to be the case.
Speaker 1: And well, he has traveled back and forth with Tanahashi.
Speaker 1: I think that is asking. That's asking a lot. Well,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to be there for every show, certainly,
Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't have to do every single Wednesday
Speaker 1: that he's available. He could do a couple of videos,
Speaker 1: but he could appear, He's not My point is he
Speaker 1: is not for sure off a w for six weeks.
Speaker 1: If he's in the G One, he could make appearances.
Speaker 1: He could defend the title on Dynamite. And here's the
Speaker 1: thing with the G One. Virtually every single time there
Speaker 1: is somebody that beats the I W G P heavyweight
Speaker 1: champion during G one to set up a match post
Speaker 1: G one, I think the champion, I think the i
Speaker 1: w g P champion needs to work the g one.
Speaker 1: So you could have j White retained the title. You
Speaker 1: could have Ocada win the title from j White. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe the whole reason that j White won the title
Speaker 1: was so Ocatta Ocada could win it back on Forbidden Door.
Speaker 1: But if you're talking about politics, if Tanahashi wins the
Speaker 1: a W title, the swap does not need to be
Speaker 1: an a W guy winning the i w GP heavyweight title.
Speaker 1: F TR can win the i W g P tag
Speaker 1: team titles. So the new japan belts that come over
Speaker 1: here are the world tag team titles and the a
Speaker 1: W title that goes over there but also stays here
Speaker 1: because ton she could work shows would be the i
Speaker 1: w U or the a W championship. So you can
Speaker 1: make this work with the g one and with a
Speaker 1: political both sides get one belt. You could do that.
Speaker 1: I still believe that Moxy is probably gonna win despite
Speaker 1: everything I just said, but I'm just pointing out it
Speaker 1: is not beyond the realm of possibility that Hiroshitanashi wins
Speaker 1: the au W title. It's not less than zero percent
Speaker 1: at all. No, not not not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1: And I if I had to put money on it,
Speaker 1: I'm probably putting it on Moxley, and I'm putting it
Speaker 1: on j White as well to getting I can see
Speaker 1: more of j Y trying to start his own group
Speaker 1: for having We're you know, the Bullet Club storyline being
Speaker 1: involved because of Cole and Page all involved in that too,
Speaker 1: and Okada somehow getting screwed out of this because I
Speaker 1: just now that you've taken an off Ocata and put
Speaker 1: it on White. To me, now it's the build for
Speaker 1: Okada and he can win it back before January four.
Speaker 1: But I can see a story and I can see
Speaker 1: possibly where that title stays out of his grasp until
Speaker 1: the end of the year, until those January four shows.
Speaker 1: But but who knows. We got a long way to go,
Speaker 1: and Sunday we gotta get out of the way first,
Speaker 1: and there's enough matches that we can go through without
Speaker 1: having the fantasy book out too much. This makes observer
Speaker 1: Dave Meltz reported the decision to appoint Stephanie as the
Speaker 1: interim w w E CEO and chairwoman, not the Women's chairman,
Speaker 1: you're working too art for that one was done by
Speaker 1: a special committee of the company's board that did not
Speaker 1: include her family members or Nick Cohn. As Friday, w
Speaker 1: W announced Stephanie this is the greatest story of all time.
Speaker 1: W w E announced that Stephanie would replace her father,
Speaker 1: Vince on an interim basis as company CEO and chair woman,
Speaker 1: as a special committee investigation is underway regarding alleged misconduct
Speaker 1: related to a three million dollar hush fund given to
Speaker 1: a former employee Slash love Interest. While he made that
Speaker 1: move voluntarily, he still remains head of Creative and made
Speaker 1: brief appearances on both last Friday's SmackDown and Monday's. Brian
Speaker 1: Gowertz had an idea on Twitter. He said, if he
Speaker 1: had any say in this, he'd have Vince come out
Speaker 1: and do a shorter and shorter appearance on every single
Speaker 1: show from here on out, just a surprise appearance where
Speaker 1: like plugs w W E shop and then throws the
Speaker 1: mike and leaves. And I would not rule out another
Speaker 1: appearance by Vince on Friday. After the numbers they had
Speaker 1: this past week, They've wrote. Stephanie McMahon being put in
Speaker 1: power was said to be based on a decision of
Speaker 1: a special committee, which would be the eight members of
Speaker 1: the board that were not Nick, con Vince McMahon, Stephanie
Speaker 1: or Paul leavec Regarding an unflattering story that I can't
Speaker 1: even keep a straight face. Regarding an unflattering story that
Speaker 1: came out in Business Insider about Stephanie taking a leave
Speaker 1: of absence in May, Meltzer wrote that quote of the
Speaker 1: side of the company that buried her on the way out,
Speaker 1: None of that came from the members of the special committee,
Speaker 1: but from others in the Penny. So the point of
Speaker 1: all of this is, do you remember when we were
Speaker 1: pointing out, well, she left and then first they buried
Speaker 1: her privately, and then they buried her publicly, and then
Speaker 1: they just brought her back. Well, that's the simplistic way
Speaker 1: of looking at it. What happened was she left, they
Speaker 1: buried her privately, they buried her publicly, and then the
Speaker 1: board that didn't bury her brought her back. So, man,
Speaker 1: if they find out some of the folks that were
Speaker 1: burying Stephanie McMahon and now she's back, this is incredible.
Speaker 1: Who do you think those folks were that buried Stephanie well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I mean, it's not like a
Speaker 1: big secret, but it's one of those things were like,
Speaker 1: you know, they were clearly instructed to get word out.
Speaker 1: Now who instructed them that? I don't know that. I
Speaker 1: don't know who who is it, but you know there's
Speaker 1: people that the people that actually got the word out,
Speaker 1: This would be a case of of killing the messenger.
Speaker 1: But I mean, so then why what what was what
Speaker 1: would have been? What was the benefit then in doing that?
Speaker 1: Knowing that he's she is still Vince McMahon's daughter, knowing
Speaker 1: that there is still power to be wielded by a
Speaker 1: woman who's going to be on the board of that
Speaker 1: company until the end of time or unless she pulls
Speaker 1: a Shane, What was the benefit? What was what was
Speaker 1: the goal of it? Other than to try to kick
Speaker 1: dirt on somebody that very likely would have been back
Speaker 1: in some form after taking this time off that Dave
Speaker 1: says she did voluntarily. So what what was the end
Speaker 1: for these folks? Well, so we talked about this the
Speaker 1: other day. The the best theory that anyone has given
Speaker 1: me is that when they when she left, they were
Speaker 1: concerned that the stock price was going to fall because
Speaker 1: of McMahon had left the company, and so their theory was, well,
Speaker 1: if we say that she wasn't good at the job,
Speaker 1: and we have hired better people to do the job, well,
Speaker 1: then the stock price won't tank. Okay, Now I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's true. All right, that's just the best
Speaker 1: theory that I've heard. But what money if that is true?
Speaker 1: If that is true that in order to keep the
Speaker 1: stock priced table you said that she sucked at her job,
Speaker 1: but now she's been brought back for an even higher
Speaker 1: ranking position. Well that would take the stock now, wouldn't it. Back?
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Speaker 1: would of Talk is Jericho. I'm on it along with
Speaker 1: Lance and as it says in the description, Big Vinny V.
Speaker 1: We did a special edition of Talk is Jericho talking
Speaker 1: about classic wrestling albums. Remember Pile Driver. I had to
Speaker 1: listen all these albums are gonna do this show. So
Speaker 1: it's a very very fun show. If you want to
Speaker 1: check it out, Talk is Jericho. It's up right now,
Speaker 1: So had up there and check that out, everybody. What's
Speaker 1: so funny, Mike that you weren't invited in your wheelhouse
Speaker 1: that you could actually talk about wacky songs? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: will go there and talk about Bigfoot? I could do that.
Speaker 1: UFOs Well, I know Chris is bias from what I've heard,
Speaker 1: so that would be perfect for you to jump on
Speaker 1: there and talk about with him. Hey, by the way,
Speaker 1: did you know the Virgin won the n X T
Speaker 1: Tag team titles? I heard that. Yes, Josh Briggs and
Speaker 1: Brooks Jensen the n X T U K Tag Team titles.
Speaker 1: So good for them. Maybe he'll maybe he'll get some
Speaker 1: action now. Should take a picture of himself with that belt.
Speaker 1: But like, no, no, and else just him the belt
Speaker 1: in his hand, Jesus Boa. That's the that's the gimmick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what hold on a second, Mike, you watch this show?
Speaker 1: Why are you mad at me? That's literally the gimmick.
Speaker 1: The gimmick was that he had so furiously pleasure to himself.
Speaker 1: My kids are downstairs, then he broke his hand. That
Speaker 1: was his storyline. He wasn't a cast for that very reason.
Speaker 1: And of all people, you're duck in your head because
Speaker 1: I'm making some statement about an actual angle on w
Speaker 1: w E television. I'm not making it up. I'm not
Speaker 1: calling him a virgin to make fun of him. That's
Speaker 1: literally his character. That is literally his character. They said.
Speaker 1: They literally said on television on commentary that this guy
Speaker 1: had been so backed up for twenty one years he
Speaker 1: was ready to explode. They said that on television. You're
Speaker 1: mad at me. You're like one of the people on
Speaker 1: my Twitter in my whatever's mentions. Do you know how
Speaker 1: hypocritical you are? Don't I don't understand because you're right.
Speaker 1: You don't understand because I am not hysterical. I am
Speaker 1: not angry. Right now, you just talked about a guy
Speaker 1: that's been so backed up for so long. That he
Speaker 1: is losing his mind and actually hurt himself furiously masturbating.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just say I don't I don't have
Speaker 1: any kids that are impressionable around. I'll just say it
Speaker 1: for you out loud. That's what you're saying, Brian Alvarez.
Speaker 1: You you, sir, sound a little bit like you may
Speaker 1: be backed up in a little hysterical right now. Are
Speaker 1: you suffering from some of the same issues that you
Speaker 1: suffering from that, because we saw you try to replace
Speaker 1: and do whatever you were doing yesterday with trying to
Speaker 1: get the tailine back on, and we saw that arm
Speaker 1: that you had there, and it was kind of looking
Speaker 1: like when Quagmire around family Guy discovered the Internet. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it was. So maybe it's you
Speaker 1: who are so frustrated and upset you're questioning me calling
Speaker 1: him a virgin when he walked out on TV four
Speaker 1: weeks ago with a shirt that said, and I quote
Speaker 1: virginity rocks. I don't want to hear about Brian. I
Speaker 1: am actually not questioning that at all. Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Eo Sharai and Zoe Stark are expected to return from
Speaker 1: injury relatively soon, So if you're wondering where Eo Sharai
Speaker 1: and Zoe Stark were. They were hurt, not the obsturbation related,
Speaker 1: and we don't know that. But I don't know about Zoe,
Speaker 1: but I know that Eo it wasn't she did a
Speaker 1: moon salt and the last whatever, the last pay per
Speaker 1: view was it she worked, which I guess would have
Speaker 1: been standing the liver April two. Apparently she did a
Speaker 1: moon salt and she hit the announced table, so that
Speaker 1: because that'll that'll determine a lot. And then Zoe Stark
Speaker 1: has not wrestle since Halloween havoc in October? Has it
Speaker 1: been that long? She had a torn a c L
Speaker 1: and meniscus and got surgery, so she should be back soon.
Speaker 1: They need her there. She is very very people there well,
Speaker 1: they they do, indeed they both both of them coming
Speaker 1: back would help matters out immensely, because I don't want
Speaker 1: to see any more albifire lash legend matches. I just don't.
Speaker 1: This person is saying, basically, Mike is saying that your
Speaker 1: one forearm is way bigger than the other. You want
Speaker 1: to know something funny? Do you want to know something funny? Did?
Speaker 1: He also would make a drawing for you to explain it. Yes,
Speaker 1: go ahead, My right forearm is way bigger than my left.
Speaker 1: Do you want me to tell you why? Sure? Furiously
Speaker 1: lifting weights when I was young. So what happened was
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I was like, it's a Friday. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: wanna know what happened? So I, uh, this would have
Speaker 1: been I would have been in the fifth or sixth
Speaker 1: grade when I started watching wrestling, okay, and uh, I
Speaker 1: was a big fan of The Ultimate Warrior. So, uh,
Speaker 1: I got in a seventh grade and I've been watching
Speaker 1: wrestling for a few years. And uh, very early in
Speaker 1: seventh grade we did whatever you know, it actually might
Speaker 1: have been sixth grade. It might have been in p
Speaker 1: but regardless, we had a new shirts and skins basketball, Okay,
Speaker 1: And uh I was very skinny. I was. I'll just
Speaker 1: put it this way. I was one hundred and sixteen
Speaker 1: pounds when I got my driver's license. That was when
Speaker 1: I was sixteen, So imagine five years earlier. I was
Speaker 1: so skinny, and I take my shirt off, and so
Speaker 1: we're doing shirts and skins basketball, and uh, yes, it's true.
Speaker 1: I had a chicken chest. Now. The difference was I
Speaker 1: was eleven with a chicken chest and not in my thirties.
Speaker 1: But anyway, it's not a chicken chest. And uh so
Speaker 1: what I did. I went home and my dad had
Speaker 1: a guy that worked for his fence company, and uh
Speaker 1: this sounds kind of weird, but we had a we
Speaker 1: had a shed in the backyard and he lived there
Speaker 1: because he had been down on his luck. Okay, but
Speaker 1: inside his shed that he lived in, which actually was
Speaker 1: a nice shed, it was furnished bad everything, he had
Speaker 1: a weight set, and uh so I said, can I
Speaker 1: can I work out with those weights? So anyway, I
Speaker 1: started working out with the weights okay, and uh I
Speaker 1: had been working out with the weights for about maybe
Speaker 1: six months or whatever, and you know, I was making
Speaker 1: progress because you know, I was eleven, twelve years old
Speaker 1: lifting weights, You're gonna immediately make progress. And I decided
Speaker 1: they had the list of no it's nothing like that, jingo,
Speaker 1: but anyway, so they had a list of after school sports, okay,
Speaker 1: and I decided I am going to go out for
Speaker 1: the tennis team. Never played tennis in my life. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what it was. So I got a racket,
Speaker 1: I got a bag, I got some balls and I
Speaker 1: went out for the tennis team, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was like the first day or whatever it was,
Speaker 1: but after the tennis practice, I had my bag and
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there waiting, and uh, of course, like there
Speaker 1: was like a girl I liked on the bench, you
Speaker 1: know whatever I felt. I was like, you know, Brooks Jensen,
Speaker 1: and my mom and dad show up and I started,
Speaker 1: hold on, is that the real reason that you decided,
Speaker 1: of all things to go out for the tennis team
Speaker 1: was because girlfriend was on the tenn No, I just
Speaker 1: I thought it would be fun to do tennis. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I start running to the car because my parents are there,
Speaker 1: and my bag the tennis racket handle was sticking out
Speaker 1: of it, and as I ran, I tripped over the
Speaker 1: tennis racket. I took a huge bump. Of course, the
Speaker 1: you know girls watching and so like I jumped up
Speaker 1: and went, I'm fine, and then you know, kept running
Speaker 1: in the car. And it's weird because I took this bump,
Speaker 1: but I was like it didn't bother me or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I went home and you know, just did whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, afternoon and it was time for dinner. And
Speaker 1: then we're eating dinner and my dad it looks over
Speaker 1: and he goes, why is your arm looks so weird?
Speaker 1: If you know my dad, the would make a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. So I looked out of my arm and
Speaker 1: this arm it wasn't like totally at a ninety degree angle.
Speaker 1: Did I just say a word? This, this funny silly
Speaker 1: arm is bent at like atreeks. My arm was broken.
Speaker 1: So they take me to the doctor and uh. The
Speaker 1: doctor gives me the X ray and he's like, dude,
Speaker 1: your arm is broken, and uh, he goes, but don't worry.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna break it back and then we're
Speaker 1: just gonna put you in a cast. And so my
Speaker 1: arm didn't even hurt. My arm was not bothering me,
Speaker 1: but it was broken. Well man, when this bro broke
Speaker 1: my arm back straight again, that was the worst pain
Speaker 1: I've ever felt in my entire life. And then they
Speaker 1: put my arm in a cast. So we go home
Speaker 1: and I got to be in a cast for like
Speaker 1: six weeks or whatever. But I'm like, bro, I was exercised,
Speaker 1: I was working out, I was making such great progress.
Speaker 1: What could I do with just one arm? So what
Speaker 1: I did was I did whatever legs I could do,
Speaker 1: which wasn't much. It was like that you know those benches,
Speaker 1: and they got that thing that you can like straighten
Speaker 1: your legs or whatever at the end. I could do that,
Speaker 1: and I could do and I could do risk curls
Speaker 1: and reverse risk curls. That's all I could do. So bro,
Speaker 1: I start, I start doing all these risk girls just
Speaker 1: with one arm. I start doing my legs and everything
Speaker 1: like that. And then eventually I get the cast off
Speaker 1: and I I immediately you know, you have a cast on,
Speaker 1: so your arms like white, it's like completely white, and
Speaker 1: it's like all shriveled up and pale and skinny. And
Speaker 1: then I had my other arm and it was like, Doc,
Speaker 1: are they gonna even out? And he goes, well, you
Speaker 1: know they should, and a long story short, they never did.
Speaker 1: So this one has always been and even like my
Speaker 1: my it's not even like just you know, your forearm,
Speaker 1: but my wrists. I got the one wrist and then
Speaker 1: I got the other risk which is like half the
Speaker 1: size the actual bone is. Uh if you measured them both,
Speaker 1: like you know, my I left wrist bone is like
Speaker 1: six and a quarter and my right is like six
Speaker 1: and three quarter the actual bone. So Anyway, it is
Speaker 1: true that I do have one forearm bigger than the other.
Speaker 1: And that is why now has any keen eye in
Speaker 1: a locker room ever pointed that out, like, hey boy,
Speaker 1: you got that one arm that's a little bit bigger.
Speaker 1: Nothing like that delivering a big overhand chop or something
Speaker 1: like that. It's far more vicious with the right hand
Speaker 1: because you got a little bit more of there. But
Speaker 1: that was the end of my tennis career. By the way,
Speaker 1: they're asking when I started gymnastics, Well, actually that was
Speaker 1: the great benefit to you. If you're trying to put
Speaker 1: on weight, Tennis is probably the worst sport that you
Speaker 1: can run. Yeah, that was last to put on weight.
Speaker 1: So then I went out for wrestling, amateur wrestling, and
Speaker 1: I I did. I went out for amateur wresting seventh
Speaker 1: grade and eighth grade. And that's pretty horrible because I
Speaker 1: was a pacifist and I was always afraid I would
Speaker 1: hurt somebody. It's not going to be an amateur wrestler
Speaker 1: when you're afraid you might hurt somebody. Bro I got
Speaker 1: smashed six ways from Sunday, but I was I did that.
Speaker 1: We were already doing the y w F at that point,
Speaker 1: and my buddy, uh, my buddy, Chris Kelly, his uh
Speaker 1: cousin worked at a gymnastics place and uh we in
Speaker 1: seventh grade, you know, they had you do this different
Speaker 1: stuff and one of them was gymnastics, and uh it's fun.
Speaker 1: And so you know, Chris goes, dude, my cousin works
Speaker 1: in the gymnastics place. And so I went out and
Speaker 1: I started at gymnastics. Didn't start gymnastics till I was
Speaker 1: like twelve, and then I did that and wrestling and
Speaker 1: the rest is history. Storytime, everybody. I hope you love Fridays.
Speaker 1: Back in a moment, I got to talk to the
Speaker 1: FCC Observer Live. You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live
Speaker 1: with Brian Alvarez and Mike semper viv on the Sports
Speaker 1: Byline Broadcasting Network. I noticed on the chat here that
Speaker 1: some people are questioning my story. Okay, so listen. I
Speaker 1: don't have a tape measure, but dude, if you're watching
Speaker 1: on video, watch left and then right. All right, bright,
Speaker 1: we're just holding up his left hand right now. That's
Speaker 1: a noticeable difference. Hmm, that's a noticeable difference. Do you
Speaker 1: have me to go down and get a tape measure
Speaker 1: and measure for you guys. You've said that before, haven't you.
Speaker 1: So anyway, it's not the same. God, are you guys blind? God,
Speaker 1: It's bad enough that people are deaf, now I have
Speaker 1: to deal with blindness on top of that. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a slow newsday. Won't be. Won't be this weekend though,
Speaker 1: because we got a lot coming up. We got SmackDown tonight.
Speaker 1: Us on SmackDown threw that Drew McIntire has been announcer
Speaker 1: SmackDown coming up tonight, and we got a full a
Speaker 1: W rampage which apparently has a fantastic match with andrawd
Speaker 1: A in Phoenix. Apparently they were told to go out
Speaker 1: there and have their pay per view match on TV
Speaker 1: because they ain't have it on pay per view, and
Speaker 1: according to reports they did so that's apparently awesome and
Speaker 1: then apparently a big brawl at the end which is
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And uh. Then of course on
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Speaker 1: that's it. Thanks Mike. Callers and listeners ever in the
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