WEBVTT - Forbidden Door Pre-Match Updates/NXT Tag Team

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network.

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<v Speaker 1>By from San Francisco. I'm a sports Byline broadcasting network.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Vibe with your hosts

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Alvarez and Mike semper vaut. Ready, Ready, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>it all. How's it going everybody? Brian Alvarez here on

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<v Speaker 1>Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day Monday through Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>New Pacific three Eastern Sunday three Pacific, sixth Eastern. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Friday here in this program, and you know what

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<v Speaker 1>that means. We've got a busy weekend coming up with

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<v Speaker 1>the a w New Japan Forbidden It Door pay per

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<v Speaker 1>view which is coming up on Sunday. And you, I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 1>dear listener will be stunned to hear there's another injury

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<v Speaker 1>that is that has afflicted this show. Toll me hero

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<v Speaker 1>is she is off the show. He has been replaced

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<v Speaker 1>in the All Atlantic four Way by Clark Conners. Who

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<v Speaker 1>is she he beat? So we'll go over the full

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<v Speaker 1>card for the show, and uh, I won't go over

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<v Speaker 1>everything I went over yesterday in The Brian Viney Show.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to listen to the show Wrestling Observer

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, Video dot f W online dot com, you can.

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<v Speaker 1>But the gist of it is, I went through this

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<v Speaker 1>card and based on what I know, whether it be

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<v Speaker 1>injuries or politics, or changes as a result of injuries

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<v Speaker 1>which changed other matches, if that makes sense. I think

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<v Speaker 1>every single solitary match on this show, with the exception

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<v Speaker 1>of thunder Rosa versus Tony Storm, was originally going to

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<v Speaker 1>be something else. Nine out of ten matches ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being changed from what they originally wanted to do. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go over that. We have got the a W

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<v Speaker 1>ratings which were up this week, and we've also got

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<v Speaker 1>an update on the SmackDown and Rampage numbers last week, which,

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<v Speaker 1>if you recall, Rampage was like so low and then

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<v Speaker 1>people were thinking maybe there was an issue at Nielsen,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact, the good news is there was an

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<v Speaker 1>issue with Nielsen. It affected both SmackDown and Rampage. The

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<v Speaker 1>bad news is Rampage still today horrible number. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about that here today. We've also got an

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<v Speaker 1>update on Stephanie McMahon SmackDown tonight New n x T

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<v Speaker 1>Tag Team Champions, A virgin is a title holder and

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<v Speaker 1>so much more. Back in a moment, Observer Live taking

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<v Speaker 1>that you're listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Albarez

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<v Speaker 1>and Mike Semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network. Better

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<v Speaker 1>in the show, Bryan Albarez here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike

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<v Speaker 1>sumber Viv also Wrestling Observer dot Com, and Yes, a

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<v Speaker 1>she E has been pulled from Forbidden Door after suffering

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<v Speaker 1>a knee injury, and Bro, if you know anything about Ishi,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gotta be a bad knee injury to pull out

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<v Speaker 1>of a show. He'd been scheduled take part in the

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<v Speaker 1>a w All Atlantic title match featuring Pocmero and Malachi.

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<v Speaker 1>He will be replaced by Clark Conners, who was a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that he defeated in a tournament final on Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>at the New Japan Road e Ent in Tokyo. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a I'm a huge fan of Clark Connors. No, Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>he worked around here and uh he actually worked at

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<v Speaker 1>the pool that Vinnie's wife works at before he got

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<v Speaker 1>into wrestling. So I'm very very happy to see Clark Connors. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He did the uh elderly people water yoga and boy

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<v Speaker 1>do they like Clark Connors. But anyway, uh, he I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very happy to see him working this forbidden door show.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, this was an opportunity to go filthy Tom

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<v Speaker 1>in that four way and it didn't happen. But well,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be in the g one right, will be, yes, sir?

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<v Speaker 1>So another injury and uh, as I noted earlier here today, yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like seven of the matches had been changed

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<v Speaker 1>as a result of injury or whatever. But I did

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<v Speaker 1>a tally yesterday and uh, whether it be injury, politics,

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<v Speaker 1>or someone being moved because of an injury and needed

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<v Speaker 1>to be replaced in a match. By my account, nine

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<v Speaker 1>of the ten matches, for sure we're changed from what

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<v Speaker 1>was originally planned. The only one that I think had

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<v Speaker 1>been planned from the beginning and is taking place as

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<v Speaker 1>planned provided none of these two get hurt is thunder

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<v Speaker 1>Rosa and Tony Storm for the a W World Women's Idole.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single other match was changed for one reason or

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<v Speaker 1>another from what they had originally planned, which is insane

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<v Speaker 1>when you actually think about it. We've got moxy Tona Hashi.

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<v Speaker 1>As we're all well aware, j White, Okada Hangman and

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Cole. We've got Malachi, Pack Mero and Clark Conners

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<v Speaker 1>for the All Atlantic title, Thunder Rosa, Tony Storm, Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Cobb and Great o'con versus f tr versus Rapongi Vice winner,

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<v Speaker 1>take all R O H and I W G P

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<v Speaker 1>Tag team titles, will Osbury, Orange, Cassidy, Jericho, Suzuki, Sammy Versti,

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<v Speaker 1>Kingston Wheeler. You didn't showed Amino, Zach Saberg Jr. Versus

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<v Speaker 1>the Mystery Man whoever that might be, Young Bucks, Fantasma

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<v Speaker 1>and Hikolao versus Sting, Darby Shingo and Harromu Takahashi. And

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<v Speaker 1>then to buy in his Max Castor and the Gun

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<v Speaker 1>Club versus the l A Do Joe. So that is

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<v Speaker 1>the lineup for the show. I still think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be excellent show Bell to Bell, but I know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are disappointed. Some people are claiming they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to buy it. It's kind of funny because

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<v Speaker 1>whenever people go I don't like it, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>buy it. I ever believe that, because I've heard that

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand times, and then we end up getting numbers

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like the number of people that actually said

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<v Speaker 1>that they didn't buy it is low. It's like they

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<v Speaker 1>either weren't going to buy it in the first place,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, the people that actually legitimately change their minds,

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<v Speaker 1>it's usually very very few people. But it was funny

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<v Speaker 1>and people go like, well, I expect it to be great,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't like the build. What so you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>skip out on the show that you know is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be great because you don't know how They don't

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<v Speaker 1>like how they got to the show that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be great. That was one that was a weird one,

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<v Speaker 1>but whatever. I think most of those people that would

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<v Speaker 1>say that are going to buy the show anyway. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the only time the build hurts is any

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<v Speaker 1>casual fan that is not a die hard New Japan

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<v Speaker 1>and slash a W Pro Wrestling and if they only

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<v Speaker 1>follow a W yeah, the building will matter to them.

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<v Speaker 1>But most of the people that are frustrated or probably

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<v Speaker 1>expressing that opinion, and I don't know, your timeline tends

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little bit more toxic than mine. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't believe those people at all. They're

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely gonna watch the show. What if she's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be there, so all of a sudden, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna watch the show. No? Is Okada in the dream

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<v Speaker 1>match that you want him to be in? Is Tanahashi?

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<v Speaker 1>Is whoever? Maybe not? Is that really going to stop

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<v Speaker 1>you from watching the show? No, Because you know, whoever

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Saber Jr. Faces could be. Say it's cesar Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>say it's Gargano, Say it's whoever it is, It's probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be pretty great. You know, you look up and

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<v Speaker 1>down and you go, Is Cassidy the guy I would

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<v Speaker 1>have wanted to face will Osprey? Probably not, But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, the match itself is probably gonna be pretty great.

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<v Speaker 1>Same goes for for Tanahashi and Moxley. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>loved for it to be punk, but this is the

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<v Speaker 1>handword dealt. And I think by the time Sunday Night

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<v Speaker 1>is over with, they're going to be people who some

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<v Speaker 1>people don't know, like a Clark Connors because for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, people don't know who the hell Clark Honnors is.

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<v Speaker 1>People listening to this show may but there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of wrestling fans that don't, and I think they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see him. They're gonna see l Fantasmo, They're gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>some of these other guys, and they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>really surprised, and they're going to want to see those

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<v Speaker 1>guys more in a w and mixing it up and again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is step one on what hopefully is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a long path of working together between these two groups.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, for this guy that says, I know Tonash,

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<v Speaker 1>she stands less than zero percent chance of winning, will

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<v Speaker 1>I watch it? Yes, I would not say that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's got zero percent chance of winning

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<v Speaker 1>or less at all. It's not necessarily predicting him, but

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<v Speaker 1>that is not a by the way, after everyone's freaked out,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on. That's one of the interesting things too, and

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<v Speaker 1>we can get into it later on. If we go

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<v Speaker 1>up and down this card where the one thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>for sure is you don't know in some of these

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<v Speaker 1>cases who is actually going to come out the winner.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a lot of question. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>may think, Okay, this person is going to this side

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna win, but you don't know who's gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>the fall. And I think there's a lot of stories

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<v Speaker 1>that could be developed for both companies coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>this show. So last week, everybody's freaking out about these

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<v Speaker 1>numbers and Dynamite Wednesday eight seventy eight thousand viewers, up

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen point four percent from last week, number one on

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<v Speaker 1>cable with an o point three one, which was up

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<v Speaker 1>ten point seven percent from last week. This was up

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<v Speaker 1>against the Stanley Cup Finals, which did four point six

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<v Speaker 1>million viewers and a one point three one at eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>to forty nine up in every demo category except males

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<v Speaker 1>twelve to thirty four, which declined. Biggest increases were young

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<v Speaker 1>women females twelve to thirty four up a hundred percent,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen and forty nine forty three point eight percent. So, UH,

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<v Speaker 1>numbers good, so we can move on from that one.

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<v Speaker 1>But due to a reporting error with Nielsen, because these

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<v Speaker 1>numbers on Friday, I mean it was a bizarre. SmackDown

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<v Speaker 1>was sky high, Rampage was like depths of the Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and it turns out that there was a reporting error

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<v Speaker 1>at Nielsen which affected both shows. So SmackDown, UH as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to doing two point to nine million viewers, they

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<v Speaker 1>did two point three eight nine million, which means that

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Reigns Riddle Match that did two point eight million.

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<v Speaker 1>It probably did actually almost three million viewers for Roman

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<v Speaker 1>Reigns versus Riddle, the same riddle that they squashed on

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<v Speaker 1>Monday with Omas and beat him up twice in one show.

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<v Speaker 1>The Rampage Show actually ended up doing three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty nine thousand viewers, which was up twelve percent from

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<v Speaker 1>what we reported at last week. That's the good news.

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<v Speaker 1>The bad news is in its normal time slot, still

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<v Speaker 1>by far the lowest viewership ever in the history of Rampage.

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<v Speaker 1>That did allow it to beat two of the shows

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<v Speaker 1>that were preempted, but this in no way turned the

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<v Speaker 1>Rampage number into a good number, still at a point

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<v Speaker 1>one two at eighteen and forty nine, which I guess

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<v Speaker 1>is good because before it was a point one. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is at least a point one too, But that

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<v Speaker 1>is also the lowest demo number the show has ever

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<v Speaker 1>done in its regular time slot. But it did beat

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<v Speaker 1>some shows that were preempted. But there's minimal spin you

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<v Speaker 1>can put on that that that makes it as it

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<v Speaker 1>was a holy number. Yeah, the only spin you can

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<v Speaker 1>put on it is, you know, this is better than

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<v Speaker 1>some of the times they've been preempted and put somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 1>but they only went up, you know, thirty eight thousand

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<v Speaker 1>viewers in this when in SmackDown went up nine hundred thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>So people, it's whatever obvious, no, but as far as yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it goes up. You know, they went up to

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<v Speaker 1>nearly two point four million people from two point to

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<v Speaker 1>nine and again because of that percentage, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it just unfortunately doesn't go open up for rampage at all.

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<v Speaker 1>In was it a one week aberration. The show has

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<v Speaker 1>been on the decline anyway. They are hamstrung by the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that there are days that they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>run on in issues that they have the Tony Khan,

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<v Speaker 1>either as a gentleman's agreement with or there's some other

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<v Speaker 1>deeper reason that he doesn't want to run on certain

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<v Speaker 1>days up against certain shows. But they're hurting themselves that

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<v Speaker 1>way because you've got to get that show off of

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<v Speaker 1>Friday at ten. I don't know where you can put it,

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<v Speaker 1>what you can do, but Friday attend stinks. I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>an observer live condy day. Come come Friday to day

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<v Speaker 1>that streaking ring. Maybe I I think it's me that

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<v Speaker 1>there's something that track, But imagine you were listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez and Mike Semperviv on

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<v Speaker 1>the Sports Byline Broadcasting net work. Back in the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Alvarez here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike Simperviva also Wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>Observer dot Com. Okay, everyone's talking about Tona Hashi. What

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<v Speaker 1>percentage chance do I think the tonah she has of winning? Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, And you know what I would do.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say why. I'll tell you why because what

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<v Speaker 1>was the originally scheduled match. It was CM Punk versus

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<v Speaker 1>Hiroshi Tanahashi for the a W title, Right, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the original match. Yes, CM Punk got hurt and he

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<v Speaker 1>was removed from that match. Okay, so Tony clearly wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to see see M Punk versus Hiroshi Tanahashi for the

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<v Speaker 1>a W title. Well, now he can't because ce HM

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<v Speaker 1>Punk got hurt unless you either bring back Tanahashi later

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<v Speaker 1>when c HM Punk ends up champion again or Tanashi

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<v Speaker 1>wins the title see M Punk comes back and it

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<v Speaker 1>all out. You do the match he wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place. It couldn't do see M Punk

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<v Speaker 1>versus Hiroshi Tanahashi for the a W title and see

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<v Speaker 1>him Punk wins, So it's not like this has happened

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<v Speaker 1>before where something throws a monkey wrench in Tony's plans

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<v Speaker 1>and he swerves to get back to where he was

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<v Speaker 1>going originally. So if he really wanted to do that match,

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<v Speaker 1>then Tanahashi wins the interim title, and when Punk comes back,

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<v Speaker 1>you do Punk a Tanahashi the originally planned match, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Punk gets to win. Now I explained that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why did I say? Well, the other half of that

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<v Speaker 1>is that if CM Punk would have wrestled Hiroshi Tanahashi

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<v Speaker 1>Forbidden Door, I don't think Tanahashi is winning. He was

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<v Speaker 1>going to lose at Forbidden Door, so that's the other

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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent. He wasn't scheduled to win, so he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not gonna win this time. But for anybody thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that tanah she has zero chance of winning the a

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<v Speaker 1>W title. If you look at history and the way

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<v Speaker 1>that Tony has handled issues where he could have put

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<v Speaker 1>together a match he wanted to do, he does his

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<v Speaker 1>little swerve to get back to the match he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do in the first place. So don't think there's

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<v Speaker 1>zero chance. I haven't actually gone and looked at the

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<v Speaker 1>at the schedule for G one, but hold on, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is doing six matches and not eight, okay, And I

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<v Speaker 1>was told that there's only one Wednesday where Hiroshi Tanahashi

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<v Speaker 1>is working a G one match, which means, with the

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<v Speaker 1>exception of one Wednesday, he is a vail. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be a tough flight there and back. But he could

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<v Speaker 1>appear every Wednesday except one during the G one, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not impossible that he could win this title. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not impossible, but it's kindly unlikely because of the G one.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think if you wanted, if you were a

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<v Speaker 1>gambler that way and say I'm gonna put money on Tnahashi,

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<v Speaker 1>I think then you also must look at the odds

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<v Speaker 1>on the Okada match, because if you look at J White, Okada,

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<v Speaker 1>Page and uh Adam Cole, you have three aid W guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but two aid W guys, J White and Okada. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to switch the belt and actually have

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<v Speaker 1>Tanahashi hold onto the a W title throughout the G one,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, leading into I don't I don't know when

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<v Speaker 1>all out is, but you know, if you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>that happen, then go ahead and actually swap the belts.

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<v Speaker 1>And have Hangman Page pull off a big upset so

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<v Speaker 1>he could have a big match when he goes over

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<v Speaker 1>to Japan. I think again, I I know what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see that. I just see. This is where

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<v Speaker 1>politics start to dribble back in. And you know the

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<v Speaker 1>importance of those titles, which while G One is going on,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't think would be important and doesn't Most fans

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<v Speaker 1>would go, Okay, I can displace this and and put

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<v Speaker 1>it in this part of my mind. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if the companies necessarily want that to be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, he has traveled back and forth with Tanahashi.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is asking. That's asking a lot. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have to be there for every show, certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he doesn't have to do every single Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>that he's available. He could do a couple of videos,

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<v Speaker 1>but he could appear, He's not My point is he

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<v Speaker 1>is not for sure off a w for six weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's in the G One, he could make appearances.

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<v Speaker 1>He could defend the title on Dynamite. And here's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing with the G One. Virtually every single time there

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<v Speaker 1>is somebody that beats the I W G P heavyweight

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<v Speaker 1>champion during G one to set up a match post

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<v Speaker 1>G one, I think the champion, I think the i

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<v Speaker 1>w g P champion needs to work the g one.

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<v Speaker 1>So you could have j White retained the title. You

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<v Speaker 1>could have Ocada win the title from j White. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the whole reason that j White won the title

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<v Speaker 1>was so Ocatta Ocada could win it back on Forbidden Door.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're talking about politics, if Tanahashi wins the

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<v Speaker 1>a W title, the swap does not need to be

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<v Speaker 1>an a W guy winning the i w GP heavyweight title.

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<v Speaker 1>F TR can win the i W g P tag

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<v Speaker 1>team titles. So the new japan belts that come over

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<v Speaker 1>here are the world tag team titles and the a

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<v Speaker 1>W title that goes over there but also stays here

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<v Speaker 1>because ton she could work shows would be the i

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<v Speaker 1>w U or the a W championship. So you can

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<v Speaker 1>make this work with the g one and with a

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<v Speaker 1>political both sides get one belt. You could do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I still believe that Moxy is probably gonna win despite

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<v Speaker 1>everything I just said, but I'm just pointing out it

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<v Speaker 1>is not beyond the realm of possibility that Hiroshitanashi wins

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<v Speaker 1>the au W title. It's not less than zero percent

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<v Speaker 1>at all. No, not not not at all, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And I if I had to put money on it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably putting it on Moxley, and I'm putting it

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<v Speaker 1>on j White as well to getting I can see

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<v Speaker 1>more of j Y trying to start his own group

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<v Speaker 1>for having We're you know, the Bullet Club storyline being

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<v Speaker 1>involved because of Cole and Page all involved in that too,

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<v Speaker 1>and Okada somehow getting screwed out of this because I

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<v Speaker 1>just now that you've taken an off Ocata and put

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<v Speaker 1>it on White. To me, now it's the build for

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<v Speaker 1>Okada and he can win it back before January four.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can see a story and I can see

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<v Speaker 1>possibly where that title stays out of his grasp until

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the year, until those January four shows.

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<v Speaker 1>But but who knows. We got a long way to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sunday we gotta get out of the way first,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's enough matches that we can go through without

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<v Speaker 1>having the fantasy book out too much. This makes observer

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Meltz reported the decision to appoint Stephanie as the

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<v Speaker 1>interim w w E CEO and chairwoman, not the Women's chairman,

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<v Speaker 1>you're working too art for that one was done by

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<v Speaker 1>a special committee of the company's board that did not

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<v Speaker 1>include her family members or Nick Cohn. As Friday, w

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<v Speaker 1>W announced Stephanie this is the greatest story of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>W w E announced that Stephanie would replace her father,

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<v Speaker 1>Vince on an interim basis as company CEO and chair woman,

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<v Speaker 1>as a special committee investigation is underway regarding alleged misconduct

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<v Speaker 1>related to a three million dollar hush fund given to

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<v Speaker 1>a former employee Slash love Interest. While he made that

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<v Speaker 1>move voluntarily, he still remains head of Creative and made

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<v Speaker 1>brief appearances on both last Friday's SmackDown and Monday's. Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Gowertz had an idea on Twitter. He said, if he

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<v Speaker 1>had any say in this, he'd have Vince come out

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<v Speaker 1>and do a shorter and shorter appearance on every single

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<v Speaker 1>show from here on out, just a surprise appearance where

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<v Speaker 1>like plugs w W E shop and then throws the

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<v Speaker 1>mike and leaves. And I would not rule out another

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<v Speaker 1>appearance by Vince on Friday. After the numbers they had

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<v Speaker 1>this past week, They've wrote. Stephanie McMahon being put in

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<v Speaker 1>power was said to be based on a decision of

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<v Speaker 1>a special committee, which would be the eight members of

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<v Speaker 1>the board that were not Nick, con Vince McMahon, Stephanie

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<v Speaker 1>or Paul leavec Regarding an unflattering story that I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even keep a straight face. Regarding an unflattering story that

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<v Speaker 1>came out in Business Insider about Stephanie taking a leave

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<v Speaker 1>of absence in May, Meltzer wrote that quote of the

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<v Speaker 1>side of the company that buried her on the way out,

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<v Speaker 1>None of that came from the members of the special committee,

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<v Speaker 1>but from others in the Penny. So the point of

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<v Speaker 1>all of this is, do you remember when we were

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<v Speaker 1>pointing out, well, she left and then first they buried

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<v Speaker 1>her privately, and then they buried her publicly, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they just brought her back. Well, that's the simplistic way

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<v Speaker 1>of looking at it. What happened was she left, they

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<v Speaker 1>buried her privately, they buried her publicly, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>board that didn't bury her brought her back. So, man,

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<v Speaker 1>if they find out some of the folks that were

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<v Speaker 1>burying Stephanie McMahon and now she's back, this is incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think those folks were that buried Stephanie well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know, I mean, it's not like a

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<v Speaker 1>big secret, but it's one of those things were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they were clearly instructed to get word out.

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<v Speaker 1>Now who instructed them that? I don't know that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who who is it, but you know there's

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<v Speaker 1>people that the people that actually got the word out,

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<v Speaker 1>This would be a case of of killing the messenger.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, so then why what what was what

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<v Speaker 1>would have been? What was the benefit then in doing that?

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing that he's she is still Vince McMahon's daughter, knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that there is still power to be wielded by a

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<v Speaker 1>woman who's going to be on the board of that

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<v Speaker 1>company until the end of time or unless she pulls

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<v Speaker 1>a Shane, What was the benefit? What was what was

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<v Speaker 1>the goal of it? Other than to try to kick

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<v Speaker 1>dirt on somebody that very likely would have been back

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<v Speaker 1>in some form after taking this time off that Dave

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<v Speaker 1>says she did voluntarily. So what what was the end

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<v Speaker 1>for these folks? Well, so we talked about this the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. The the best theory that anyone has given

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<v Speaker 1>me is that when they when she left, they were

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<v Speaker 1>concerned that the stock price was going to fall because

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<v Speaker 1>of McMahon had left the company, and so their theory was, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if we say that she wasn't good at the job,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have hired better people to do the job, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then the stock price won't tank. Okay, Now I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's true. All right, that's just the best

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<v Speaker 1>theory that I've heard. But what money if that is true?

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<v Speaker 1>If that is true that in order to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>stock priced table you said that she sucked at her job,

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<v Speaker 1>but now she's been brought back for an even higher

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<v Speaker 1>ranking position. Well that would take the stock now, wouldn't it. Back?

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<v Speaker 1>view beach. Cameo here from lovely Cannon Beach, Oregon. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw a listener the other day. I was heading into

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<v Speaker 1>the Mariner Market and you ran Atomy Brian Observer live.

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<v Speaker 1>He lives here in Cannon Beach. We had a nice conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>talked about pizza. Nice Mexican joined over there and see side,

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<v Speaker 1>super nice guy se again and you have down on pizza.

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<v Speaker 1>Where does he come down on pizza? Well, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>there's a really good pizza Feta place. But he had

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<v Speaker 1>bought in a pizza the Mariner Market and then he

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<v Speaker 1>bought it and he kind of regretted it. He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I should have got pizza fetta. I said, bro, you

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<v Speaker 1>live here, you can get pizza feta anytime you want.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, maybe I'll get that here sometime soon after

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done with my four day fast. Look at you?

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<v Speaker 1>Why why would you do that to yourself? On so

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<v Speaker 1>fat and blowed. It was disgusting, But I feel much

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<v Speaker 1>better now and I have not fasted for four days.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I want to mention, Hey, you guys ever

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<v Speaker 1>would of Talk is Jericho. I'm on it along with

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<v Speaker 1>Lance and as it says in the description, Big Vinny V.

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<v Speaker 1>We did a special edition of Talk is Jericho talking

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<v Speaker 1>about classic wrestling albums. Remember Pile Driver. I had to

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.399
<v Speaker 1>listen all these albums are gonna do this show. So

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a very very fun show. If you want to

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 1>check it out, Talk is Jericho. It's up right now,

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>So had up there and check that out, everybody. What's

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 1>so funny, Mike that you weren't invited in your wheelhouse

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 1>that you could actually talk about wacky songs? Oh my god,

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 1>will go there and talk about Bigfoot? I could do that.

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 1>UFOs Well, I know Chris is bias from what I've heard,

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>so that would be perfect for you to jump on

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>there and talk about with him. Hey, by the way,

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>did you know the Virgin won the n X T

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 1>Tag team titles? I heard that. Yes, Josh Briggs and

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Brooks Jensen the n X T U K Tag Team titles.

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>So good for them. Maybe he'll maybe he'll get some

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>action now. Should take a picture of himself with that belt.

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:01.879
<v Speaker 1>But like, no, no, and else just him the belt

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>in his hand, Jesus Boa. That's the that's the gimmick. Yeah,

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>what hold on a second, Mike, you watch this show?

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Why are you mad at me? That's literally the gimmick.

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 1>The gimmick was that he had so furiously pleasure to himself.

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>My kids are downstairs, then he broke his hand. That

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 1>was his storyline. He wasn't a cast for that very reason.

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>And of all people, you're duck in your head because

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm making some statement about an actual angle on w

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 1>w E television. I'm not making it up. I'm not

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>calling him a virgin to make fun of him. That's

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>literally his character. That is literally his character. They said.

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>They literally said on television on commentary that this guy

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>had been so backed up for twenty one years he

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>was ready to explode. They said that on television. You're

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 1>mad at me. You're like one of the people on

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>my Twitter in my whatever's mentions. Do you know how

0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 1>hypocritical you are? Don't I don't understand because you're right.

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 1>You don't understand because I am not hysterical. I am

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>not angry. Right now, you just talked about a guy

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>that's been so backed up for so long. That he

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>is losing his mind and actually hurt himself furiously masturbating.

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's just say I don't I don't have

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>any kids that are impressionable around. I'll just say it

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>for you out loud. That's what you're saying, Brian Alvarez.

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>You you, sir, sound a little bit like you may

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>be backed up in a little hysterical right now. Are

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you suffering from some of the same issues that you

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>suffering from that, because we saw you try to replace

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>and do whatever you were doing yesterday with trying to

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>get the tailine back on, and we saw that arm

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>that you had there, and it was kind of looking

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>like when Quagmire around family Guy discovered the Internet. You

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, it was. So maybe it's you

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 1>who are so frustrated and upset you're questioning me calling

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 1>him a virgin when he walked out on TV four

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago with a shirt that said, and I quote

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>virginity rocks. I don't want to hear about Brian. I

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>am actually not questioning that at all. Thank you, Thank you.

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Eo Sharai and Zoe Stark are expected to return from

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 1>injury relatively soon, So if you're wondering where Eo Sharai

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and Zoe Stark were. They were hurt, not the obsturbation related,

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>and we don't know that. But I don't know about Zoe,

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>but I know that Eo it wasn't she did a

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>moon salt and the last whatever, the last pay per

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>view was it she worked, which I guess would have

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>been standing the liver April two. Apparently she did a

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 1>moon salt and she hit the announced table, so that

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>because that'll that'll determine a lot. And then Zoe Stark

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>has not wrestle since Halloween havoc in October? Has it

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>been that long? She had a torn a c L

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and meniscus and got surgery, so she should be back soon.

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 1>They need her there. She is very very people there well,

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>they they do, indeed they both both of them coming

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>back would help matters out immensely, because I don't want

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to see any more albifire lash legend matches. I just don't.

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>This person is saying, basically, Mike is saying that your

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>one forearm is way bigger than the other. You want

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 1>to know something funny? Do you want to know something funny? Did?

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>He also would make a drawing for you to explain it. Yes,

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, My right forearm is way bigger than my left.

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you want me to tell you why? Sure? Furiously

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>lifting weights when I was young. So what happened was

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I was like, it's a Friday. Yeah, you

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>wanna know what happened? So I, uh, this would have

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>been I would have been in the fifth or sixth

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>grade when I started watching wrestling, okay, and uh, I

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>was a big fan of The Ultimate Warrior. So, uh,

0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I got in a seventh grade and I've been watching

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>wrestling for a few years. And uh, very early in

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>seventh grade we did whatever you know, it actually might

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>have been sixth grade. It might have been in p

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>but regardless, we had a new shirts and skins basketball, Okay,

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>And uh I was very skinny. I was. I'll just

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>put it this way. I was one hundred and sixteen

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 1>pounds when I got my driver's license. That was when

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I was sixteen, So imagine five years earlier. I was

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>so skinny, and I take my shirt off, and so

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>we're doing shirts and skins basketball, and uh, yes, it's true.

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I had a chicken chest. Now. The difference was I

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>was eleven with a chicken chest and not in my thirties.

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, it's not a chicken chest. And uh so

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>what I did. I went home and my dad had

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a guy that worked for his fence company, and uh

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>this sounds kind of weird, but we had a we

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>had a shed in the backyard and he lived there

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>because he had been down on his luck. Okay, but

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>inside his shed that he lived in, which actually was

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a nice shed, it was furnished bad everything, he had

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>a weight set, and uh so I said, can I

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 1>can I work out with those weights? So anyway, I

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>started working out with the weights okay, and uh I

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>had been working out with the weights for about maybe

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>six months or whatever, and you know, I was making

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 1>progress because you know, I was eleven, twelve years old

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>lifting weights, You're gonna immediately make progress. And I decided

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 1>they had the list of no it's nothing like that, jingo,

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, so they had a list of after school sports, okay,

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>and I decided I am going to go out for

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>the tennis team. Never played tennis in my life. I

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what it was. So I got a racket,

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I got a bag, I got some balls and I

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>went out for the tennis team, and I don't know

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>if it was like the first day or whatever it was,

0:33:56.240 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>but after the tennis practice, I had my bag and

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there waiting, and uh, of course, like there

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>was like a girl I liked on the bench, you

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>know whatever I felt. I was like, you know, Brooks Jensen,

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and my mom and dad show up and I started,

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 1>hold on, is that the real reason that you decided,

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:16.720
<v Speaker 1>of all things to go out for the tennis team

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 1>was because girlfriend was on the tenn No, I just

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be fun to do tennis. So anyway,

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.839
<v Speaker 1>I start running to the car because my parents are there,

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>and my bag the tennis racket handle was sticking out

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 1>of it, and as I ran, I tripped over the

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 1>tennis racket. I took a huge bump. Of course, the

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 1>you know girls watching and so like I jumped up

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and went, I'm fine, and then you know, kept running

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>in the car. And it's weird because I took this bump,

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 1>but I was like it didn't bother me or whatever.

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>So I went home and you know, just did whatever,

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, afternoon and it was time for dinner. And

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>then we're eating dinner and my dad it looks over

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:58.240
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, why is your arm looks so weird?

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 1>If you know my dad, the would make a lot

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>of sense. So I looked out of my arm and

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>this arm it wasn't like totally at a ninety degree angle.

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Did I just say a word? This, this funny silly

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>arm is bent at like atreeks. My arm was broken.

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>So they take me to the doctor and uh. The

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>doctor gives me the X ray and he's like, dude,

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>your arm is broken, and uh, he goes, but don't worry.

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna break it back and then we're

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>just gonna put you in a cast. And so my

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>arm didn't even hurt. My arm was not bothering me,

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>but it was broken. Well man, when this bro broke

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 1>my arm back straight again, that was the worst pain

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I've ever felt in my entire life. And then they

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>put my arm in a cast. So we go home

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and I got to be in a cast for like

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>six weeks or whatever. But I'm like, bro, I was exercised,

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I was working out, I was making such great progress.

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 1>What could I do with just one arm? So what

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I did was I did whatever legs I could do,

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>which wasn't much. It was like that you know those benches,

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and they got that thing that you can like straighten

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>your legs or whatever at the end. I could do that,

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and I could do and I could do risk curls

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and reverse risk curls. That's all I could do. So bro,

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I start, I start doing all these risk girls just

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>with one arm. I start doing my legs and everything

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 1>like that. And then eventually I get the cast off

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 1>and I I immediately you know, you have a cast on,

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 1>so your arms like white, it's like completely white, and

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like all shriveled up and pale and skinny. And

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 1>then I had my other arm and it was like, Doc,

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:37.799
<v Speaker 1>are they gonna even out? And he goes, well, you

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 1>know they should, and a long story short, they never did.

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:45.640
<v Speaker 1>So this one has always been and even like my

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 1>my it's not even like just you know, your forearm,

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>but my wrists. I got the one wrist and then

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I got the other risk which is like half the

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>size the actual bone is. Uh if you measured them both,

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 1>like you know, my I left wrist bone is like

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>six and a quarter and my right is like six

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and three quarter the actual bone. So Anyway, it is

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 1>true that I do have one forearm bigger than the other.

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>And that is why now has any keen eye in

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>a locker room ever pointed that out, like, hey boy,

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 1>you got that one arm that's a little bit bigger.

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Nothing like that delivering a big overhand chop or something

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>like that. It's far more vicious with the right hand

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 1>because you got a little bit more of there. But

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:33.319
<v Speaker 1>that was the end of my tennis career. By the way,

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>they're asking when I started gymnastics, Well, actually that was

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>the great benefit to you. If you're trying to put

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>on weight, Tennis is probably the worst sport that you

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.400
<v Speaker 1>can run. Yeah, that was last to put on weight.

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 1>So then I went out for wrestling, amateur wrestling, and

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I I did. I went out for amateur wresting seventh

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 1>grade and eighth grade. And that's pretty horrible because I

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>was a pacifist and I was always afraid I would

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>hurt somebody. It's not going to be an amateur wrestler

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.359
<v Speaker 1>when you're afraid you might hurt somebody. Bro I got

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 1>smashed six ways from Sunday, but I was I did that.

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 1>We were already doing the y w F at that point,

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and my buddy, uh, my buddy, Chris Kelly, his uh

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>cousin worked at a gymnastics place and uh we in

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>seventh grade, you know, they had you do this different

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff and one of them was gymnastics, and uh it's fun.

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, Chris goes, dude, my cousin works

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>in the gymnastics place. And so I went out and

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:28.360
<v Speaker 1>I started at gymnastics. Didn't start gymnastics till I was

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>like twelve, and then I did that and wrestling and

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>the rest is history. Storytime, everybody. I hope you love Fridays.

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Back in a moment, I got to talk to the

0:38:38.600 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 1>FCC Observer Live. You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>with Brian Alvarez and Mike semper viv on the Sports

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Byline Broadcasting Network. I noticed on the chat here that

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>some people are questioning my story. Okay, so listen. I

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 1>don't have a tape measure, but dude, if you're watching

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 1>on video, watch left and then right. All right, bright,

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>we're just holding up his left hand right now. That's

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 1>a noticeable difference. Hmm, that's a noticeable difference. Do you

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 1>have me to go down and get a tape measure

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and measure for you guys. You've said that before, haven't you.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, it's not the same. God, are you guys blind? God,

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<v Speaker 1>It's bad enough that people are deaf, now I have

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with blindness on top of that. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a slow newsday. Won't be. Won't be this weekend though,

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<v Speaker 1>because we got a lot coming up. We got SmackDown tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Us on SmackDown threw that Drew McIntire has been announcer

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<v Speaker 1>SmackDown coming up tonight, and we got a full a

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<v Speaker 1>W rampage which apparently has a fantastic match with andrawd

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<v Speaker 1>A in Phoenix. Apparently they were told to go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and have their pay per view match on TV

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<v Speaker 1>because they ain't have it on pay per view, and

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<v Speaker 1>according to reports they did so that's apparently awesome and

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<v Speaker 1>then apparently a big brawl at the end which is

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun. And uh. Then of course on

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